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lex
03-09-2009, 10:38 PM
poll to follow

Tw0mey
03-09-2009, 10:41 PM
He's never been a head coach before... lol

So no, I don't

Killericon
03-09-2009, 10:41 PM
Hahahahahahahaha!!

Do I consider the 22nd century to be a great century?

FireFly
03-09-2009, 10:42 PM
In my opinion, probably the greatest of all time :flower:

lex
03-09-2009, 10:43 PM
I was just curious. Someone in another thread called him a great head coach. I just wanted to see who felt this way.

Anaximines
03-09-2009, 10:51 PM
he hasn't even held his first training camp yet! No!

FireFly
03-09-2009, 10:52 PM
Not just great, I think its safe to say 1st ballot HoF :strong:

BroncoMan4ever
03-09-2009, 11:13 PM
until he learns you don't **** with a franchise QB and until he actually has a winning season, he is just a stop gap and another failure off the Patriots assistant tree.

DBroncos4life
03-09-2009, 11:14 PM
Well he hasn't lost as many games as Shanny so....

FireFly
03-09-2009, 11:14 PM
until he learns you don't **** with a franchise QB and until he actually has a winning season, he is just a stop gap and another failure off the Patriots assistant tree.

Tell us what you really think :P

OBF1
03-09-2009, 11:30 PM
I have to say you are an asswipe. Why would you post this BS when he has never coached a game as of yet???

I wish some of you would grow up and stop acting like children. Does it mean so much to you to see your name starting a thread, even though is it pointless, useless and senseless?

OBF1
03-09-2009, 11:32 PM
I was just curious. Someone in another thread called him a great head coach. I just wanted to see who felt this way.

What, you can even form your own opinion??? Why not wait until you can communicate before starting a thread :thumbs:

SonOfLe-loLang
03-09-2009, 11:32 PM
Only Lex would start a thread like this....for crying out loud

lex
03-09-2009, 11:36 PM
What, you can even form your own opinion??? Why not wait until you can communicate before starting a thread :thumbs:

???

Jason7730
03-09-2009, 11:38 PM
Is this 'Broncomania' board? Dumbest poll.......ever.

lex
03-09-2009, 11:42 PM
Is this 'Broncomania' board? Dumbest poll.......ever.


Cheer up, buckaroo.

Popps
03-09-2009, 11:56 PM
I was just curious. Someone in another thread called him a great head coach. I just wanted to see who felt this way.

Waiting on that link, junior.

Any time now.

(Jeopardy theme playing)

Popps
03-09-2009, 11:58 PM
Is this 'Broncomania' board? Dumbest poll.......ever.

It's not quite... but it's close.

lex
03-10-2009, 12:05 AM
It's not quite... but it's close.

Do we call someone names? Are you serious? LOL.

Popps
03-10-2009, 12:08 AM
Do we call someone names? Are you serious? LOL.

Still waiting on that definitive quote of someone insisting that he was absolutely a "great coach," lex.

Anytime now.

lex
03-10-2009, 12:08 AM
Waiting on that link, junior.

Any time now.

(Jeopardy theme playing)

What are you talking about? Like you dont know what you believe? Dont run and hide now. Vote in the poll.

lex
03-10-2009, 12:10 AM
Still waiting on that definitive quote of someone insisting that he was absolutely a "great coach," lex.

Anytime now.


Like I said in my previous post. You can answer that for us right now. If you dont think he is a great coach, then just say so.

Popps
03-10-2009, 12:10 AM
What are you talking about? Like you dont know what you believe? Dont run and hide now. Vote in the poll.

What I believe? Is that what we're talking about? He's never coached a day in the NFL. How would I know?

Besides, I thought you said someone stated in no uncertain terms that he WAS a great coach.

Since this brilliant poll is predicated on that fact, you can at least do us the service of posting a link.

We're ready, boss.

BroncoMan4ever
03-10-2009, 12:11 AM
Tell us what you really think :P

i am not holding my breath on this guy. when he came in, he was saying all the right things about the QB and the offense and how he wanted to build on what we had in place, and then a month later he does a complete 180 and disregarded everything he said. and his FA signings, while i do like them(a lot of us liked some of last seasons FA aquisitions), he did what Shanahan always did, bringing in players for the secondary in bunches and forgetting the front 7, or bringing in guys who are not an upgrade on what we had.

add in that none of the Belicheat disciples have amounted to anything is a problem. so far all McDaniels has done, is bring in aging veterans or guys who weren't needed, pissed off a franchise QB, pissed off a lot of fans who don't like that secretive bull**** the Patriots do every year, and has yet to extend a hand to Jay.

because of how he has handled the first days of FA, doesn't give me much hope on how he will handle the draft, camps, preseason or the regular season, and has me doubting we make the playoffs in his tenure as HC, and that he won't finish out his deal in Denver.

so until he has a winning season, gets Jay back with the program(i don't give a **** if they like each other, just so long they can work together) prove that he is better than the other Patriot assistants, he is going to be seen as a waste of money and a burden to the team

and yes, i admit i was a fan of his hiring after a few days(i was in the hire Spagnuolo group), but he handled things so poorly so far and my faith in him has fallen off. if he can't handle the offseason, how can we expect him to handle the actual season?

Popps
03-10-2009, 12:11 AM
Like I said in my previous post. You can answer that for us right now. If you dont think he is a great coach, then just say so.

Aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh, so, no one really said it.

Got it.

Thanks, lex... and thanks for the poll.

Great work.

lex
03-10-2009, 12:13 AM
What I believe? Is that what we're talking about? He's never coached a day in the NFL. How would I know?

Besides, I thought you said someone stated in no uncertain terms that he WAS a great coach.

Since this brilliant poll is predicated on that fact, you can at least do us the service of posting a link.

We're ready, boss.

Whatever youve said previously can be amended by what you say now. Either you think he's great or you don't. If you do, so be it but dont want to stick your neck out, so be it. If not, admitting as much means you wont have to wear it.

lex
03-10-2009, 12:15 AM
Aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh, so, no one really said it.

Got it.

Thanks, lex... and thanks for the poll.

Great work.


You said he is doing what any great coach does, did you not? Is that not what you initially said?

OBF1
03-10-2009, 12:16 AM
This message is hidden because lex is on your ignore list and lex is an idiot.

Popps
03-10-2009, 12:17 AM
You said he is doing what any great coach does, did you not?

Uh huh, just as I thought.

Don't want to post the link, do you bud?

Afraid that might blow your little facade?

You know what I said. Go ahead. Post the link. Post the WHOLE sentence.

Then, when you're done... apologize to the forum for your hair-brained poll, based on the fact that you couldn't read.

OBF1
03-10-2009, 12:19 AM
Popps, Stop picking on the stupid

lex
03-10-2009, 12:19 AM
Uh huh, just as I thought.

Don't want to post the link, do you bud?

Afraid that might blow your little facade?

You know what I said. Go ahead. Post the link. Post the WHOLE sentence.

Then, when you're done... apologize to the forum for your hair-brained poll, based on the fact that you couldn't read.

Why are you acting like a gay man who doesnt want to admit he's gay? Im inviting you point blank to clarify your position. You did initially say that he is doing what any great coach would do, did you not?

lex
03-10-2009, 12:20 AM
Popps, Stop picking on the stupid


Stupid is someone who cant wrap their mind around the fact that they dont have to access threads that are clearly labeled.

BroncoMan4ever
03-10-2009, 12:20 AM
Do I Think McDaniels Will Become A Great HC? makes the question easier to answer, because right now, i think he is an idiot, and isn't inspiring much confidence for me to think he will ever be anything more than another failure from the Patriots Assistant tree.

Popps
03-10-2009, 12:24 AM
Why are you acting like a gay man who doesnt want to admit he's gay? Im inviting you point blank to clarify your position. You did initially say that he is doing what any great coach would do, did you not?

LOL

When all else fails, call someone "gay."

What I said was, he was doing what any coach would do... or any BAD coach, for that matter. I SPECIFICALLY MADE THAT ULTRA-CLEAR for even the most severely mentally challenged among us.

Beyond that, even if I HAD just left it at that, it wouldn't be a definitive statement that he was great... just that A great coach (any great coach) would do the EXACT same thing he's doing.

Get it? If he IS a great coach, he'd do what he's doing. If he's not, he'd probably STILL be doing what he's doing. I can't make that any simpler to understand. Honestly... this is grade school stuff. Don't hate all of us because you can't grasp the most elementary of statements.


It's been fun, buddy. Sorry you had troubles reading. Have someone there at the home help you out next time. Maybe then you won't step in crap... post a poll about stepping in crap... and then chase people around calling them names because you stepped in crap.

Good luck!

Popps
03-10-2009, 12:24 AM
i am just going to look at the poll as being misworded and assume it meant

No, no... he worded it right.

ROFL!

BroncoMan4ever
03-10-2009, 12:27 AM
No, no... he worded it right.

ROFL!

i know, it just makes it easier to answer if you think of it as Do i think he will become a great HC

on the other hand, who the hell are the 3 who said yes to this poll? and were they joking or being serious?

lex
03-10-2009, 12:28 AM
LOL

When all else fails, call someone "gay."

What I said was, he was doing what any coach would do... or any BAD coach, for that matter. I SPECIFICALLY MADE THAT ULTRA-CLEAR for even the most severely mentally challenged among us.

Beyond that, even if I HAD just left it at that, it wouldn't be a definitive statement that he was great... just that A great coach (any great coach) would do the EXACT same thing he's doing.

Get it? If he IS a great coach, he'd do what he's doing. If he's not, he'd probably STILL be doing what he's doing. I can't make that any simpler to understand. Honestly... this is grade school stuff. Don't hate all of us because you can't grasp the most elementary of statements.


It's been fun, buddy. Sorry you had troubles reading. Have someone there at the home help you out next time. Maybe then you won't step in crap... post a poll about stepping in crap... and then chase people around calling them names because you stepped in crap.

Good luck!

Telling.

I think its interesting that you go through the trouble to quote what you said but purposely omit "great"...I suppose youre now going to play it off...like youre not trying to steer us away from something.

NFLBRONCO
03-10-2009, 12:41 AM
I rookie HC and fans expect him to do everything perfect amazing. I have no idea how he will or won't do here but, he's our coach now give him a chance. If he flops we move on not that big of deal. He will learn over time like most coaches do. Did he screw up with almost trade of Cutler of course but, it did not happen time to move on.

Two years ago in SD when they were yelling at Cutler and calling him a baby etc really made me hate Rivers and SD. After this episode about being involved in trade talks it makes me wonder if SD isn't right about Jay at this stage and immaturity is only thing that could hold him back sure isn't talent.

The MVPlaya
03-10-2009, 01:03 AM
Lex is the all time worst thread starter known to the orange mane.

Every time I look at a thread, and ponder to myself, "what the **** is this guy thinking?" or "Why are people so ****in stupid?"... you bet chances are it will be Lex.

GreatBronco16
03-10-2009, 01:05 AM
Lex is the all time worst thread starter known to the orange mane.

Every time I look at a thread, and ponder to myself, "what the **** is this guy thinking?" or "Why are people so ****in stupid?"... you bet chances are it will be Lex.

You know, you just can't fix stupid.

UberBroncoMan
03-10-2009, 02:38 AM
Yeah... um... he's so great he's won all of 0 games ever as a head coach.

This is like saying a president is great before we've seen the effects of their policy on the nation after a year.

I'll reserve my judgment of him after 2-3 seasons, if he makes it that far with us. If he does, odds are good he's not too shabby.

Mogulseeker
03-10-2009, 05:03 AM
Shouldn't we wait at least 5-10 years to answer this question?

scttgrd
03-10-2009, 05:21 AM
Shouldn't we wait at least 5-10 years to answer this question?

You think he will still be here? What's the average tenure for a coach in the NFL? How long will Jay play?

frerottenextelway
03-10-2009, 05:37 AM
So far he's be involved in a large cheating scandal in New England, appears to have lied to our players here, and has done things like hire his kid brother who's a HS coach to be part of our NFL coaching staff.

What's not to be excited about with him!?!?!?

BroncoInferno
03-10-2009, 05:39 AM
What a dumb poll. How about a third option: "I am reserving judgment until he actually coaches a game."

BroncoInferno
03-10-2009, 05:47 AM
until he learns you don't **** with a franchise QB

He didn't **** with anyone. He listened to trade proposals. Also, Jay Cutler is NOT a franchise QB. Not yet anyway. He has the potential to be, but right now he is a talented QB with a losing record since high school and who needs to make better decisions both on and off the football field.

and until he actually has a winning season, he is just a stop gap and another failure off the Patriots assistant tree.

He is neither a failure nor a success until he actually coaches some games. To say otherwise is sheer stupidity.

Paladin
03-10-2009, 05:50 AM
Thia is an absolutely stupid thread started by the biggest, true idiot of our times.

This is not an attack, it is a journalistic description of true events......

eddie mac
03-10-2009, 05:54 AM
I think this poll was meant for this time around 2010 when he's actually coached for a full season.

BroncoInferno
03-10-2009, 05:55 AM
So far he's be involved in a large cheating scandal in New England,

What was his role in the spygate scandal? I'm not saying you're wrong, but I don't recall his name ever being tied in with that. Or is this just a lazy "guilt by association" statement to be dismissed?

appears to have lied to our players here,

It doesn't appear that way at all. He has stated that he never initiated trade talks but did listen to proposals. No one has proved that he's lying.

and has done things like hire his kid brother who's a HS coach to be part of our NFL coaching staff.

As a quality control assistant, the NFL equivalent of a graduate assistant. Every team has a couple of those. The men hired in the real coaching positions are top notch, experienced guys like Mike Nolan.

What's not to be excited about with him!?!?!?

So far, nothing, at least to anyone with some perspective.

Broncos_OTM
03-10-2009, 06:03 AM
Whatever youve said previously can be amended by what you say now. Either you think he's great or you don't. If you do, so be it but dont want to stick your neck out, so be it. If not, admitting as much means you wont have to wear it.

LEX he has NEVER been a HEAD COACH. what part of this do you not understand. You could ask is he a great cordinator. Does he Dress funny. Does he have a infatuation with Ohio, and people from there. Do you like what he has done so far. but you CANNOT ask if he will be succeded as a head coach. because as i see it he is still 0-0

Killericon
03-10-2009, 06:03 AM
"You're stupid!"

"You're gay!"

The Orangemane is a place for great debate.

Dedhed
03-10-2009, 06:08 AM
Is Tiger Woods's new son the greatest golfer ever?

Broncos_OTM
03-10-2009, 06:08 AM
Lex is the all time worst thread starter known to the orange mane.

Every time I look at a thread, and ponder to myself, "what the **** is this guy thinking?" or "Why are people so ****in stupid?"... you bet chances are it will be Lex.

I dont know CasinoRoyal was pretty bad

theAPAOps5
03-10-2009, 06:38 AM
It's not quite... but it's close.

Dude they might as well change this to Orange Mania. Seeing the retarded crap posted here since January has really been just down right sad.

frerottenextelway
03-10-2009, 06:59 AM
What was his role in the spygate scandal? I'm not saying you're wrong, but I don't recall his name ever being tied in with that. Or is this just a lazy "guilt by association" statement to be dismissed?

IMO, it would have been impossible for someone in his position to not know what was going on. And if he didn't know what was going on, then his influence on the team has been greatly exaggerated.


As a quality control assistant, the NFL equivalent of a graduate assistant. Every team has a couple of those. The men hired in the real coaching positions are top notch, experienced guys like Mike Nolan.

You just don't do that as a rookie coach. What kind of message does that send to everyone? You're telling everyone it's not what you do, but who you know. And it didn't end with his kid brother. Dumping a team leader in Leach for the Pats longer snapper (for 5 years?). And the whole his boy Cassel ordeal. How could someone not feel like he's playing the favorites game?

oubronco
03-10-2009, 07:00 AM
Is this 'Broncomania' board? Dumbest poll.......ever.

It's getting there pretty quickly

lex
03-10-2009, 07:17 AM
Lex is the all time worst thread starter known to the orange mane.

Every time I look at a thread, and ponder to myself, "what the **** is this guy thinking?" or "Why are people so ****in stupid?"... you bet chances are it will be Lex.

That means very little coming from anyone who refers to themselves as "Playa".

lex
03-10-2009, 07:19 AM
LEX he has NEVER been a HEAD COACH. what part of this do you not understand. You could ask is he a great cordinator. Does he Dress funny. Does he have a infatuation with Ohio, and people from there. Do you like what he has done so far. but you CANNOT ask if he will be succeded as a head coach. because as i see it he is still 0-0

WTH???

ohiobronco2
03-10-2009, 07:21 AM
As many have already stated, he has not coached a single game yet. I know he was a pretty good assistant coach.

Northman
03-10-2009, 07:45 AM
So far he's be involved in a large cheating scandal in New England, appears to have lied to our players here, and has done things like hire his kid brother who's a HS coach to be part of our NFL coaching staff.

What's not to be excited about with him!?!?!?

Hilarious!

Broncos_OTM
03-10-2009, 07:47 AM
WTH???
Succeed, lol

Mr Chatterboodamn
03-10-2009, 08:14 AM
LOL

When all else fails, call someone "gay."

What I said was, he was doing what any coach would do... or any BAD coach, for that matter. I SPECIFICALLY MADE THAT ULTRA-CLEAR for even the most severely mentally challenged among us.

Beyond that, even if I HAD just left it at that, it wouldn't be a definitive statement that he was great... just that A great coach (any great coach) would do the EXACT same thing he's doing.

Get it? If he IS a great coach, he'd do what he's doing. If he's not, he'd probably STILL be doing what he's doing. I can't make that any simpler to understand. Honestly... this is grade school stuff. Don't hate all of us because you can't grasp the most elementary of statements.


It's been fun, buddy. Sorry you had troubles reading. Have someone there at the home help you out next time. Maybe then you won't step in crap... post a poll about stepping in crap... and then chase people around calling them names because you stepped in crap.

Good luck!


Shift in advocacy a.k.a. moving target

Archer81
03-10-2009, 08:17 AM
Career record of 0-0...no, he is not a great head coach...yet.


:Broncos:

USMCBladerunner
03-10-2009, 08:23 AM
LOL

When all else fails, call someone "gay."

What I said was, he was doing what any coach would do... or any BAD coach, for that matter. I SPECIFICALLY MADE THAT ULTRA-CLEAR for even the most severely mentally challenged among us.

Beyond that, even if I HAD just left it at that, it wouldn't be a definitive statement that he was great... just that A great coach (any great coach) would do the EXACT same thing he's doing.

Get it? If he IS a great coach, he'd do what he's doing. If he's not, he'd probably STILL be doing what he's doing. I can't make that any simpler to understand. Honestly... this is grade school stuff. Don't hate all of us because you can't grasp the most elementary of statements.


It's been fun, buddy. Sorry you had troubles reading. Have someone there at the home help you out next time. Maybe then you won't step in crap... post a poll about stepping in crap... and then chase people around calling them names because you stepped in crap.

Good luck!

Popps, are you seriously trying to explain "necessary but insufficient" to Lex? WTF, are you thinking?
Lex and stupidity are a tautology. You know that. The Mane is a living testiment to this.

Sassy
03-10-2009, 08:38 AM
How can anyone consider McDaniels a "great HC"...seriously? THe guy hasn't coached a game in the NFL.

Sassy
03-10-2009, 08:40 AM
Only Lex would start a thread like this....for crying out loud

or Req or Florida...:P

theAPAOps5
03-10-2009, 08:58 AM
To answer the question, no at this point I don't think McDaniels has a body of work to be considered a good coach. But when Shanny started as head coach I would have said the same thing if the internets were around. :)

lex
03-10-2009, 09:02 AM
Just so everyone knows the last poll I made, which was about Dawkins asking permission to wear #20 wasnt at alll serious, yet most who posted seemed to think it was being serious. Only a few people got that it was actuallly tongue in cheek. After that, its easy to take what most of you say with a grain of salt. As a matter of fact, watching you kvetch about the poll is as entertaining as reactions to the polls themselves.

Mogulseeker
03-10-2009, 09:49 AM
You think he will still be here? What's the average tenure for a coach in the NFL? How long will Jay play?

You said it yourself. I think McD's tenure will greatly depend on how/if Cutler plays.

dbfan4life
03-10-2009, 09:54 AM
Well , I'm not gonna read the first three pages of this thread as I can all but predict what's been said. I will say this. How can McDaniels be considered anything? He hasn't done a damn bit of coaching yet! Let him at least get through training camp before we question his worthiness an a HC!

Northman
03-10-2009, 09:58 AM
Well , I'm not gonna read the first three pages of this thread as I can all but predict what's been said. I will say this. How can McDaniels be considered anything? He hasn't done a damn bit of coaching yet! Let him at least get through training camp before we question his worthiness an a HC!

Wow? Training Camp? I was at least going to give him a full year but damn if you say so. Ha!

Broncomutt
03-10-2009, 09:58 AM
The good news. :sunshine: :sunshine: :sunshine:

I have just returned from the future and happy to say McDaniels is a Hall of Fame coach after capturing 4 consecutive championships between 2012 and 2015.

The bad news. ugh!~ ugh!~ ugh!~

In a drunken stupor Bowlen relocates the team to Vancouver and joins the CFL in 2011.

Pony Boy
03-10-2009, 10:34 AM
Was Bilichick a great coach when he when he got his first head coach job with the Brown's (No)

Was Shanahan a great coach when he got his first head coach job with the Radiers? (No)

Will McDaniels be a great head coach at his first job with the Broncos ???????

Kaylore
03-10-2009, 10:48 AM
How can anyone consider McDaniels a "great HC"...seriously? THe guy hasn't coached a game in the NFL.

How can anyone consider McDaniels a "bad head coach"...seriously? THe guy hasn't coached a game in the NFL.

montrose
03-10-2009, 10:50 AM
How can anyone consider McDaniels a "bad head coach"...seriously? THe guy hasn't coached a game in the NFL.

Because he was scrambling, doing everything he could, willing to practically give away the greatest football player of our era!

Sassy
03-10-2009, 11:03 AM
How can anyone consider McDaniels a "bad head coach"...seriously? THe guy hasn't coached a game in the NFL.

I didn't say he was bad either...Just that we don't know either way yet.:sunshine:

Los Broncos
03-10-2009, 11:08 AM
Has he really even head coached yet.

Pony Boy
03-10-2009, 11:11 AM
It's getting there pretty quickly

"oubronco"
I had this picture in my files ? Go Sooners !!

mod note: Sorry, but the pic attachment was NSFW and therefore, inappropriate for this forum.

Kaylore
03-10-2009, 11:11 AM
I didn't say he was bad either...Just that we don't know either way yet.:sunshine:

Then we're on the same page. :thumbsup:

Meck77
03-10-2009, 11:15 AM
Is this 'Broncomania' board? Dumbest poll.......ever.

It certainly has become that in recent years. Too bad. We had a good thing going.

I'm waiting for the thread that asks if we'd become Raider fans for a slice of pizza next.

The MVPlaya
03-10-2009, 12:21 PM
That means very little coming from anyone who refers to themselves as "Playa".

What? :rofl: That's a line I'd expect from you anyways... narrow minded.

I didn't know user names represent anything more than just for entertainment purposes on these forums anyways.

If it doesn't mean anything coming from me, then you should take into consideration the people who agree with me.

LOL @ YOU GETTING OWNED BY ME ^^^

:pimp: 8') :twokisses :thanku:

:rofl:

dbfan4life
03-10-2009, 12:23 PM
Wow? Training Camp? I was at least going to give him a full year but damn if you say so. Ha!

I said at least give him until training camp. People want to make that call now and it's just plain retarded. Let him at least coach something before we start dumb threads/polls about it.

DomCasual
03-10-2009, 12:38 PM
Well, this thread turned out well, I think.

Oleg Gordievsky
03-10-2009, 12:40 PM
He is sonofwhore.

DomCasual
03-10-2009, 12:41 PM
He is sonofwhore.

That's not one of the choices, you crazy commie bastard.

maher_tyler
03-10-2009, 12:45 PM
how can you say hes great and he hasn't even coached a game yet...when and IF he wins 2 or more super bowls will he ever be great!!

BroncoMan4ever
03-10-2009, 01:20 PM
Is Tiger Woods's new son the greatest golfer ever?

hell yeah he is. that kid popped out of the woom with a 9-Iron from what i hear

BroncoMan4ever
03-10-2009, 01:25 PM
"oubronco"
I had this picture in my files ? Go Sooners !!

damn, i hate the sooners but i am really liking this sooner fan

bombay
03-10-2009, 01:29 PM
Breathtakingly stupid topic.

tsiguy96
03-10-2009, 01:34 PM
this is arguably the stupidest topic ive ever seen on the mane. really, that includes all of spiders posts. imagine that?

ok, well not ALL of spiders posts, but quite a few of them.