Poker: Tom Dwan vs Peter Eastgate vs Barry Greenstein

[frerottenextelway]

The big hand begins at 36:40 (although the whole show is good)

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Barry Greenstein Discusses The Hand (http://pokerroad.com/radio/tips-from-the-bear/posts/hsp-season-5-episode-2-aces-vs-dwan-and-eastgate)

One of the coolest plays I've seen. Dwan knew exactly where he was at (as evidenced by the side bet after the hand).

[Cito Pelon]

So what happened?

[frerottenextelway]

So what happened?

Dwan puts both players on exactly what they have (Barry has AA, Peter has 3 of a kind) and bluffs them both off their hands with a $100,000 turn bet.

He then makes a side bet with Doyle Brunson that Peter had the best hand of the 3 (which he wins).

It's one of the best hands in poker pyschology I've seen.

[Popps]

I'm ecstatic that High Stakes Poker is back. That was a long wait.

I start production on FSN's coverage of the Aussie Millions this week. First show is a cash game and airs in just a couple weeks.

[Popps]

Great bet on the turn, though it carried a ton of risk. Obviously, he was beat... but there were also two diamonds out there, and he could have even been outkicked if someone else held a queen.

Great play, but if Barry had the deuce in his hand, or Doyle... I guarantee you there's a call on the turn, if not a push.

[Popps]

Yea... listen to Daniel and those old pros after the hand. They all knew the best hand was laid down.

[Requiem]

Badass. Thanks for the video and info.

[frerottenextelway]

Anyone catch the near million pot between Greenstein and Dwan tonight? Sick flop. I'll put that hand in here when it's up on YouTube.


Pretty awesome fold by Dwan here. This kid the the sh!t.

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[Popps]

I just finished production on an FSN show that will air next weekend, I believe.
It's a heads-up cash game between Dwan and Antonius. Each has over $1M in cash to start. It's part of the Aussie Millions series. Worth checking out.

[frerottenextelway]

I just finished production on an FSN show that will air next weekend, I believe.
It's a heads-up cash game between Dwan and Antonius. Each has over $1M in cash to start. It's part of the Aussie Millions series. Worth checking out.

Antonius is awesome too. Both are possibly in the top 3 in the world right now, along with Ivey.

Love to know who wins, but I'm sure you can't tell me.

[Popps]

Antonius is awesome too. Both are possibly in the top 3 in the world right now, along with Ivey.

Love to know who wins, but I'm sure you can't tell me.

I'll rep you a hint. :)

[frerottenextelway]

I'll rep you a hint. :)

Thanks. ;D

[frerottenextelway]

The million dollar hand begis at the 1:00 mark. Sick hand.

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[frerottenextelway]

Dwan's up close to a million on Hansen today. Sick action.

http://erie-pa.org/images/durrrrr.jpg

[Popps]

Dwan's up close to a million on Hansen today. Sick action.

http://erie-pa.org/images/durrrrr.jpg

How did you locate which room the were in?

[BMarsh615]

How did you locate which room the were in?

Go to requests then click find a player when you are logged into full tilt and type their name in.

[frerottenextelway]

Go to requests then click find a player when you are logged into full tilt and type their name in.

That, or it's easier to just check the nosebleed tables. Usually on PL Omaha Hi, but sometimes on Mixed Games or NL Holdem. Dwan was on like 6+ tables at the same time. Crazy. Some action still going on now.

[frerottenextelway]

Another table.

http://erie-pa.org/images/dwan.jpg

[Popps]

Frerotte, are you GoBroncos, I'm assuming?

How can we play heads-up?

:)

[frerottenextelway]

Frerotte, are you GoBroncos, I'm assuming?

How can we play heads-up?

:)

That's me. I don't know if we can set up private tables. If possible, I'm in for anything though. :approve:

[Popps]

That's me. I don't know if we can set up private tables. If possible, I'm in for anything though. :approve:

I wonder why these sites don't make it easier to set up private tables. Seems like it would be appealing for people.

[frerottenextelway]

D'oh.

http://erie-pa.org/images/dwan-gus.jpg

[frerottenextelway]

I think Gus is finally done for the day. Million dollar loss between the tables. I couldn't imagine...

http://erie-pa.org/images/gus-oops.jpg

[Popps]

I think Gus is finally done for the day. Million dollar loss between the tables. I couldn't imagine...

http://erie-pa.org/images/gus-oops.jpg

Holy cow.

I know these guys incur these swings regularly, but that seems like a bad day.
I wonder how often those two mix it up.

[frerottenextelway]

Holy cow.

I know these guys incur these swings regularly, but that seems like a bad day.
I wonder how often those two mix it up.

Million dollar swings in a day aren't too uncommon (not like it's an everyday event either), but the fashion that Gus did it in was impressive. He was only playing 1 or 2 tables at a time and it was just one buy-in after the other going to Dwan in rapid fire.

[19Morton77]

Great bet on the turn, though it carried a ton of risk. Obviously, he was beat... but there were also two diamonds out there, and he could have even been outkicked if someone else held a queen.

Great play, but if Barry had the deuce in his hand, or Doyle... I guarantee you there's a call on the turn, if not a push.

no way Barry had a duece in his hand. He led out the bet preflop with 2500 dollars. No way he does that with a duece then continues to fire on flop.It was just a sick play where he didnt want to lose the hand. That is why he is taking on all comers in mix games of holdem and omaha currently. He fears no one.

[Popps]

no way Barry had a duece in his hand. He led out the bet preflop with 2500 dollars. No way he does that with a duece then continues to fire on flop.It was just a sick play where he didnt want to lose the hand. That is why he is taking on all comers in mix games of holdem and omaha currently. He fears no one.

Well, someone did have a deuce. Even Gabe K. brought up the A/2 possibility.
There were two guys left in the hand when he bet.

I totally agree, it was a sick play... but was just pointing out the inherent risk in leading out on the turn in that situation. You're right, he's fearless.

[19Morton77]

Well, someone did have a deuce. Even Gabe K. brought up the A/2 possibility.
There were two guys left in the hand when he bet.

I totally agree, it was a sick play... but was just pointing out the inherent risk in leading out on the turn in that situation. You're right, he's fearless.

I was speaking of Barry which you first stated. He was first to act in the hand preflop and pumped it to $2500 for the 400/800 blinds. It is different to call a bet of $2500 with a duece (even though 2/4 offsuit is hardly worth a call at that point) than to lead the betting with a duece. Even though it is a cash game and loose, many fold ace 2 in the first position because there are too many players to bet after you and can easily have you beat and reraise it. You have ace 2, now what?

[Popps]

I was speaking of Barry which you first stated. He was first to act in the hand preflop and pumped it to $2500 for the 400/800 blinds. It is different to call a bet of $2500 with a duece (even though 2/4 offsuit is hardly worth a call at that point) than to lead the betting with a duece. Even though it is a cash game and loose, many fold ace 2 in the first position because there are too many players to bet after you and can easily have you beat and reraise it. You have ace 2, now what?

Agree, I'm not one to make a lot of A/2 plays, but I don't think it's out of BG's realm to open with a raise, just to make a move. (Again, say he had A/2 suited diamonds.) Flop comes, and he makes a continuation bet... all pretty textbook.

Barry is a fairly tight player, but he made a couple of fairly big straight bluffs last season. I think he went all in with nothing towards the top of one of the shows in season 2.

I think you're correct in that the deuce wasn't the primary concern, and unlikely... but not out of the question. In re-reading my post, I probably should have just said someone could have had a deuce, instead of focusing the comment on Barry. In fact, Dwan said after the hand that Eastgate had the best hand. He knew it, with no doubt.

Either way, there were a lot of possibilities, most of which had Dwan beat. Yet, he fired on the turn, which was a pretty epic play. (Kaplin compared it to Stu Unger... and it doens't get much betterer than that as far as compliments go.)

[frerottenextelway]

Next week's episode of HSP has leaked.

Link:

http://www.free-poker-moneys.com/video/high-stakes-poker-season-5-episode-9.html

Password is "qwerty"

[frerottenextelway]

Next week's episode of HSP has leaked.

Link:

http://www.free-poker-moneys.com/video/high-stakes-poker-season-5-episode-9.html

Password is "qwerty"

28:00 in. Patrick soul reads Laak and makes a sick, sick call.

[frerottenextelway]

28:00 in. Patrick soul reads Laak and makes a sick, sick call.

37:00 in Dwan vs. Lederer - hilarity ensues.

Awesome episode.

[Popps]

37:00 in Dwan vs. Lederer - hilarity ensues.

Awesome episode.

Is it epside 5? I can't remember what week this is. Still haven't watched yesterday's show. Actually, getting ready to shortly...

[frerottenextelway]

Is it epside 5? I can't remember what week this is. Still haven't watched yesterday's show. Actually, getting ready to shortly...

Sunday's was episode 8. This is episode 9. Episode 8 was awful, but the one above is really good.

[ak1971]

HSP is unwatchable anymore, with this group. Antonio may as well blow that producer dude. It was enjoyable with Farha, Greenstein, Brunson, Elezra, etc.

[Popps]

HSP is unwatchable anymore, with this group. Antonio may as well blow that producer dude. It was enjoyable with Farha, Greenstein, Brunson, Elezra, etc.

Agree that this group is less dynamic than past groups. But, they rotate guys on and off. I'm also biased a bit because I've worked with Howard Lederer, and he's a great guy. But, thus far... you're right, the first few shows had better poker. Excited to watch next week's show, now that frerrote says it's solid. Trying to figure out if I want to wait, or spoil it and watch it online.

[ak1971]

Agree that this group is less dynamic than past groups. But, they rotate guys on and off. I'm also biased a bit because I've worked with Howard Lederer, and he's a great guy. But, thus far... you're right, the first few shows had better poker. Excited to watch next week's show, now that frerrote says it's solid. Trying to figure out if I want to wait, or spoil it and watch it online.

Also since HSP is pretty much is catered more to the hard core poker fan, I think they should work other games in there. The Big game in Vegas is a mixed game..so they ought to work some Omaha or Stud in there.

[Popps]

Also since HSP is pretty much is catered more to the hard core poker fan, I think they should work other games in there. The Big game in Vegas is a mixed game..so they ought to work some Omaha or Stud in there.

Yea. Not sure if you caught it, but I just worked on a show called Aussie Millions for Fox Sports Net. (I think they've all aired by now.) But, there were two cash games as part of the series (one heads-up and one ring game) and they both included some Omaha. (Back and forth.) I'm fine either way. I love hold 'em, but I don't mind seeing some Omaha mixed in there, either.

[frerottenextelway]

HSP is unwatchable anymore, with this group. Antonio may as well blow that producer dude. It was enjoyable with Farha, Greenstein, Brunson, Elezra, etc.

That past two episodes have royally sucked. Next week that I linked above is a good episode (I think they purposely leaked it to build hype about the show after the past 2 shows being such crap). Patrick, who is one of the elite in the world, made one of the greatest calls you'll ever see. Tom ''durrrr'' Dwan also returns on that episode and is involved in a priceless hand. If you don't check out the link, you'll want to check out the show Sunday.

[frerottenextelway]

Also since HSP is pretty much is catered more to the hard core poker fan, I think they should work other games in there. The Big game in Vegas is a mixed game..so they ought to work some Omaha or Stud in there.

I could see PLOmaha being worked in, but imo anything with a structed limit like Stud is boring TV, even for the hardcore fans.

[frerottenextelway]

Diz ez teh gReAtEsT v!de0 evaaa +_+

Congressman Jim Moran's son playing a $0.10 buy-in tournament.

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[frerottenextelway]

Up on YouTube....

The Patrick ownage begins at 1:00

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The Dwan/Lederer comedy begins at the 2:00 mark.

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[TheManeMan]

Diz ez teh gReAtEsT v!de0 evaaa +_+

Congressman Jim Moran's son playing a $0.10 buy-in tournament.

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Too funny!!! Hilarious!

[Popps]

Funny, I watched the show right up until that hand. Hadn't seen it yet. Hate to see my man Howard get drawn out on like that. He played it right before the flop, imo. But, he needed to fire at some point after that. Easy for me to say.

Howard's from the old school, though. Plays a little tighter. Still, as glamourous as this hand looked, you lose your stack playing like that 9 out of 10 times. There were almost no hands out there he could beat until that 8 peeled off, and even then... it was risky, hence the checks.

But, Dwan has the poker world running scared, even greats like the Professor.

[frerottenextelway]

Funny, I watched the show right up until that hand. Hadn't seen it yet. Hate to see my man Howard get drawn out on like that. He played it right before the flop, imo. But, he needed to fire at some point after that. Easy for me to say.

Howard's from the old school, though. Plays a little tighter. Still, as glamourous as this hand looked, you lose your stack playing like that 9 out of 10 times. There were almost no hands out there he could beat until that 8 peeled off, and even then... it was risky, hence the checks.

But, Dwan has the poker world running scared, even greats like the Professor.

Howard's flat call is so incredibly donkish, one of the worst plays all season (no offense to him, just this play). He has two moves, push or fold. Durr's range on his 4-bet is AA or air. Howard put in 70k preflop and left about 130k back.

What's he hoping to do?

If Durr has air, he gives him a chance to catch up (which happened) or bluff him out (which would've happened if the turn was a brick). If Durr has AA, then Howard is dead unless he gets a miracle flop of a flush, straight or trip kings, which he has nowhere near the odds of.

The end result is hilarity though, and a hand that looked ridiculous. The look on Howard's face was priceless, and Daniel's line of ''you got durrrred'' was perfect timing.

What did you think of Patrick's call? I thought that was sick, sick, sick. 3rd pair, no kicker. Only thing he can beat is a stone cold bluff, and Laak's bet had a lot of cheese in it.

[frerottenextelway]

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8894/leder.png

[Popps]

Rofl!

[Popps]

Howard's flat call is so incredibly donkish, one of the worst plays all season (no offense to him, just this play). He has two moves, push or fold. Durr's range on his 4-bet is AA or air. Howard put in 70k preflop and left about 130k back.

What's he hoping to do?

Well, he managed to save 130K in the process. But, I definitely understand your point. It wasn't a great play... and I've watched him play quite a bit and these shows have not been high points for him.

But, here's what I think he was thinking... and tell me what you think...

I don't think Howard put him on AA at all. Why would you need to 4-bet AA? You lose your customer. After Howard's re-raise, you call... and try to extract more value out of the hand. Remember, Howard had an ace in his hand, too. I just don't think there is any way Dwan plays AA or KK that fast. I think he maybe re-raises once, and then tries to draw him into a bigger pot, not push him off his hand.

I think Howard put him on something like a middle-pair, or a bluff with a solid drawing hand. So, after the 4-bet, he knows that he might be a 50/50 at best. So, he can't push all in if he truly believes he's 50/50 in a cash game.

To me, Dwan's betting pattern begins to look like he's protecting a scared hand, or continuing a semi-bluff. Again, I don't think Howard wants to push all in with the potential of being 50/50. So, he calls 30K more... and all he needs to see on the flop are an A, a K... diamonds, or maybe even something like J/10, if Dwan is sitting with 9/9 or something.

So, the flop comes off with a spade draw, and only one big card... and Howard shuts down. But, if an A/K or diamonds would have come out... Dwan would have hanged himself.

Personally, against a player like Dwan... I would have just called the first re-raise and saw the flop. Either way, pushing all-in with A/K pre-flop is not really a cash-game move so much as a tournament move. (Unless you're short-stacked.)

Anyway, he played it pretty poorly... but also had pretty bad luck.

[frerottenextelway]

Well, he managed to save 130K in the process. But, I definitely understand your point. It wasn't a great play... and I've watched him play quite a bit and these shows have not been high points for him.

But, here's what I think he was thinking... and tell me what you think...

I don't think Howard put him on AA at all. Why would you need to 4-bet AA? You lose your customer. After Howard's re-raise, you call... and try to extract more value out of the hand. Remember, Howard had an ace in his hand, too. I just don't think there is any way Dwan plays AA or KK that fast. I think he maybe re-raises once, and then tries to draw him into a bigger pot, not push him off his hand.

I think Howard put him on something like a middle-pair, or a bluff with a solid drawing hand. So, after the 4-bet, he knows that he might be a 50/50 at best. So, he can't push all in if he truly believes he's 50/50 in a cash game.

To me, Dwan's betting pattern begins to look like he's protecting a scared hand, or continuing a semi-bluff. Again, I don't think Howard wants to push all in with the potential of being 50/50. So, he calls 30K more... and all he needs to see on the flop are an A, a K... diamonds, or maybe even something like J/10, if Dwan is sitting with 9/9 or something.

So, the flop comes off with a spade draw, and only one big card... and Howard shuts down. But, if an A/K or diamonds would have come out... Dwan would have hanged himself.

Personally, against a player like Dwan... I would have just called the first re-raise and saw the flop. Either way, pushing all-in with A/K pre-flop is not really a cash-game move so much as a tournament move. (Unless you're short-stacked.)

Anyway, he played it pretty poorly... but also had pretty bad luck.

If Howard thinks mid-pairs like 99 are in Dwan's range, then his best play is to push at the spot where he flatted. There's 100k in the pot at the point, and despite the pot odds Dwan would be getting, he can't make the call when a nit 5-bets all-in. And even if we assume Dwan makes the hero call with 99-QQ, then at least Howard gets the see the turn and river, whereas he would be pushed out of it otherwise if the flop was all rags.

But I don't think any of those hands are in his range anyways. He's representing Aces and the amount of the raise he's trying to make it look like he wants Howard to come over the top all-in. So in that situation I think he either he actually has what he is trying to say he has, or he has complete air, but not something in between that he could've flatted Howard's 3-bet with.

[Popps]

If Howard thinks mid-pairs like 99 are in Dwan's range, then his best play is to push at the spot where he flatted.

Well, that or a draw. The problem is, Dwan is unpredictable and even with 9's, Dwan may have put Howard on what he had, and called his push. (And Howard knows that.)

I agree that it was misplayed, I'm just not sure a push is what you want to do, knowing you're probably 50/50 against a guy who throws around money like Dwan.

Either way, it was clear Howard didn't know where he was in the hand, and just called hoping to spike something, at that point.

[TheManeMan]

Here is Bob Safai getting Durr'd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRSSR8-IR08

This kid is crazy!

[Popps]

Here is Bob Safai getting Durr'd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRSSR8-IR08

This kid is crazy!

Wow. Unreal. Brilliant or insane... I can't quite decide yet.

Side-note, Laak was way the **** out of line talking during that hand, and particularly what he said.

[TheManeMan]

Oh yeah...Laak loves to chat. I watched the entire week last night (tivoed, ofcourse), a few episodes later (in reality a few hours) Laak was bet 1000 dollars by Safai that he couldnt stay quiet for 15 minutes. Laak just laughed and said, 15 minutes?!? That'll cost 25 g's...haha

He got ribbed for talking during the hand and apologized if I remember correctly...thats the thing, this new age of people who are playing hold'em now a days have zero etiquette.

[Popps]

Yea, I'm even O.K. with some minor chit-chat during a hand, but not ABOUT the hand, and there's a time to know when to just stop. Laak usually seems to know when. Just was just out of line.

Matasow has obviously had probs with this in the past, as well. :)

[BMarsh615]

Here is Bob Safai getting Durr'd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRSSR8-IR08

This kid is crazy!
Safai surprised me at how he didn't go on tilt after Durrr showed that bluff. Durrr had him crushed quite a few times (after that hand) when Safai had good hands and Safai didn't pay him off.... One hand was where Safai flopped trip 10's but Durrr hit a boat and Safai somehow folded his hand. Very impressive because I know I would have been felted on that hand.

[Popps]

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[Popps]

More Dwan Hellmuth. Hysterical....

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[TheManeMan]

I think that was from last years Heads up tourney. They were scheduled to play each other again in this years 2nd round. Never saw the show, for some reason the DVR didnt record it. But yeah, Phil is too funny. I LOVE IT!

[BMarsh615]

Durrrr is playing Gus Hansen right now on FT Poker and has lost over 1 million bucks so far tonight

[TheManeMan]

Durrrr is playing Gus Hansen right now on FT Poker and has lost over 1 million bucks so far tonight


Straight up?!?

I heard something like Dwan won over 6 mil in 2008 and has lost 4 mil so far in 2009...Hilarious!

[Popps]

Durrrr is playing Gus Hansen right now on FT Poker and has lost over 1 million bucks so far tonight

Sounds like he and Gus trade $$ quite a bit.

I'd put my money on Hansen over the long-run.

[frerottenextelway]

Here's a graph from a 500 hand session Tom and Ziigmund just had. So sick. They were doing a PLO game at 500/1000 where they agreed the first 3 actions must be pot-sized raises in every pot. So the 500/1000 game was essentially a 3000/9000 game.

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/5509/ziig.jpg

[frerottenextelway]

Straight up?!?

I heard something like Dwan won over 6 mil in 2008 and has lost 4 mil so far in 2009...Hilarious!

Highstakesdb.com has him down 2.1 mil this year. Although I don't know if they have yesterday's results added yet where he lost 1.3 mil and they don't have the ante tables included where he's up about 500k.

They have him up 3.5 mil lifetime, although that misses a lot of his action. He's p'bly up closer to 10 mil lifetime online across all the sites and whatever he may be live.

[frerottenextelway]

Okay to just make this into the general poker thread?

This is an oldie but classic. The "absolute" online cheating scandal.

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I used to play there, at decent limits sometimes. Scary stuff. Never played at Ultimate Bet where the other cheating scandal took place.

Anyone new reading this, stick to PokerStars and FullTiltPoker.

[Popps]

Okay to just make this into the general poker thread?

This is an oldie but classic. The "absolute" online cheating scandal.

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I used to play there, at decent limits sometimes. Scary stuff. Never played at Ultimate Bet where the other cheating scandal took place.

Anyone new reading this, stick to PokerStars and FullTiltPoker.

I was supposed to do some production work on a UB.net related project that was postponed because of that cheating scandal. Like Absolute, it was someone inside the company, from what I understand... not just the company in general.

That said, I would only loosely trust any of these sites. Regulated American companies can hardly seem to stay straight and narrow, much less unregulated, off-shore based ones.

[BMarsh615]

Straight up?!?

I heard something like Dwan won over 6 mil in 2008 and has lost 4 mil so far in 2009...Hilarious!
They were playing heads up PLO.

Durrrr was running BAD, he was down over 2 million at one point. He would start with 50k and just kept rebuying over and over again.

[Popps]

They were playing heads up PLO.

Durrrr was running BAD, he was down over 2 million at one point. He would start with 50k and just kept rebuying over and over again.

Durr has been on Poker after dark pretty regularly as of late. I'm not sure of the production schedule, there. He's taken a few hits the last few shows.

[Popps]

Here are the Durr/Antonius stats. I'll say this, Dwan isn't afraid to back up his talk. Looks like it's not working out for him at this point, though...

http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/durrrr-vs-antonius

[frerottenextelway]

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[Popps]

:rofl:

[Popps]

I'm a spammy douche-bag. ]

Awesome, dude! Thanks for the great tip about the internet site!

[ak1971]

great thread..can one of the mods move it into the poker room so it doesnt get lost in the shuffle once the season starts?

I can also delete spammers once its in there.

[frerottenextelway]

Durrrr w/ back to back million dollar days. A million off Ivey alone.

EDIT: I think it's closer to 3 million in the last two days. Epic, even for him.

[Popps]

Durrrr w/ back to back million dollar days. A million off Ivey alone.

EDIT: I think it's closer to 3 million in the last two days. Epic, even for him.

Won or lost? Sounds like won?

[frerottenextelway]

Won or lost? Sounds like won?

Won. Him and Gus are still going at it. He's up like a mil on Gus to over the past two.

[TheManeMan]

Won. Him and Gus are still going at it. He's up like a mil on Gus to over the past two.


I would actually pay to see a heads up game between Durr and Gus.

[ak1971]

just curious...what are the biggest stakes people here have played at?

10-20 is my highest. It actually was beatable if I wasnt hammered.

[TheManeMan]

just curious...what are the biggest stakes people here have played at?

10-20 is my highest. It actually was beatable if I wasnt hammered.

Usually 3-6, 5-10 at the casinos, sit down with 3 hundo.

[frerottenextelway]

just curious...what are the biggest stakes people here have played at?

10-20 is my highest. It actually was beatable if I wasnt hammered.

I used to multi-table 5/10 SH LHE. Usually $700 - $1000 in front of me between the tables. The games used to be so soft years back... how things have changed.

[broncocalijohn]

I played 4/8 limit in Vegas at the Orleans during Easter time. Good action and they have some good players with some usual donkeys. Good poker room if you are off the strip and they play Omaha Hi/lo tournies I think every night.

[ak1971]

I played 4/8 limit in Vegas at the Orleans during Easter time. Good action and they have some good players with some usual donkeys. Good poker room if you are off the strip and they play Omaha Hi/lo tournies I think every night.

They only have those Sun - Thurs. I think.. Im hoping it may be cost effective for the casinos here to hold non hold em tournies once the stakes go up

[frerottenextelway]

Sick action yesterday. Dwan dropped 1.2 mil to Gus, then won it all back plus another 700k+ against Ivey.

[ak1971]

Sick action yesterday. Dwan dropped 1.2 mil to Gus, then won it all back plus another 700k+ against Ivey.

I was watching Ivey bleed money last night...sick

[BMarsh615]

Sick action yesterday. Dwan dropped 1.2 mil to Gus, then won it all back plus another 700k+ against Ivey.

Durrrr and Gus are playing right now... Durrr is up by 500k so far.

Gus puts way to much money in on draws. I know Omaha is a game where you are supposed to draw to the nuts, but Gus puts all his chips in with open enders way to much. Going all-in with 6 outs (at best) with two cards to go is weak and Gus does that all the time.

[frerottenextelway]

Straight up?!?

I heard something like Dwan won over 6 mil in 2008 and has lost 4 mil so far in 2009...Hilarious!

He's up $1.5 million this year now. A $5.5 mil upswing since February!

So sick.