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CEH
03-09-2009, 10:05 AM
Adam Shefter just reported on KOA Radio Cutler and the Broncos will not meet
anytime in the near future though he did say both sides will have to work this out

Anaximines
03-09-2009, 10:05 AM
wtf??

rugbythug
03-09-2009, 10:05 AM
Nice-I wonder what simms has.

Gcver2ver3
03-09-2009, 10:06 AM
we better get 2 1st rounders for him or i'll be pissed...

Archer81
03-09-2009, 10:07 AM
Right.


:Broncos:

ludo21
03-09-2009, 10:08 AM
i dont want to jump to conclusions.....

but this is probably not a good sign.

illbroncsfn
03-09-2009, 10:10 AM
Frustrating- 2 lost weeks in terms of getting familiar w/concepts and terminology of the new playbook....

scttgrd
03-09-2009, 10:11 AM
If McFail trades Cutler to the Vikings Jay will get a ring in two years.

Archer81
03-09-2009, 10:11 AM
Something isnt right about this.

:Broncos:

Gcver2ver3
03-09-2009, 10:11 AM
if this meeting got cancelled because Cutler is still upset then how could i get upset with McD and company for trading him now?...

if this meeting is cancelled cause Cutler is still cryin then i say trade him...

frerottenextelway
03-09-2009, 10:12 AM
If McFail trades Cutler to the Vikings Jay will get a ring in two years.

They'd be the SB favorites in my book.

Archer81
03-09-2009, 10:14 AM
Can anyone find a confirmation script or something that backs this up?


:Broncos:

supermanhr9
03-09-2009, 10:14 AM
this is fishy,,, hope Simms is ready for the pressure just in case. I wonder who decided not to meet? was it Jay or Mickey d? Why did plummer come to visit Bowlen?

Rulon Velvet Jones
03-09-2009, 10:16 AM
Who's being the ****** here?

bronco militia
03-09-2009, 10:18 AM
no offense CEH, but can anyone else confirm this?

Tombstone RJ
03-09-2009, 10:18 AM
This is tiring...

Archer81
03-09-2009, 10:18 AM
no offense CEH, but can anyone else confirm this?


Seconded.


:Broncos:

CEH
03-09-2009, 10:19 AM
Can anyone find a confirmation script or something that backs this up?


:Broncos:

Don't need any confirmation
Go to 850KOA.com at the top of each hour and listen for yourself
I live in Denver and tuned over at 10:00 am and they ran the clip

Archer81
03-09-2009, 10:20 AM
Don't need any confirmation
Go to 850KOA.com at the top of each hour and listen for yourself
I live in Denver and tuned over at 10:00 am and they ran the clip


Link, man. Which you could have provided. You post something like this, link the source...GAWD...


:Broncos:

bronco militia
03-09-2009, 10:21 AM
http://www.broncosradionetwork.com/cc-common/ondemand/player.html?world=st

Archer81
03-09-2009, 10:22 AM
850 KOA Broncos radio has an alert up saying Mcdaniels and Cutler are still meeting today?

:Broncos:

maher_tyler
03-09-2009, 10:23 AM
this is fishy,,, hope Simms is ready for the pressure just in case. I wonder who decided not to meet? was it Jay or Mickey d? Why did plummer come to visit Bowlen?

Cause we're trading Cutler to Minn. for AP, their 1st and 2nd...Plummer will be the back up to Simms. Possibly trading our 1st and 2nd round picks to move up to draft someone we want??

Gcver2ver3
03-09-2009, 10:23 AM
850 KOA Broncos radio has an alert up saying Mcdaniels and Cutler are still meeting today?

:Broncos:

huh?...so are they meeting or not?...

Archer81
03-09-2009, 10:25 AM
huh?...so are they meeting or not?...


Not seeing anything anywhere saying they are not meeting.

:Broncos:

SoDak Bronco
03-09-2009, 10:26 AM
I am sick of this...grow up and work it out

jacob2125
03-09-2009, 10:27 AM
This is bull. He posted the same crap over on Broncos Country.

Pony Boy
03-09-2009, 10:29 AM
The rumor in Tenn is a move to bring Jay back home, and give up Young a 1st and 3rd. The hold up would be finding a team to take Young because he wouldn't fit in Denver, so another team would be involved. Tenn would give almost anything to bring Jay back so it might be time cash in big time.. Jay knows this is a possibility and wants to say home !!! Sims might be the man in Denver and then use the picks and trades to rebuild the D.

I'm certainly not saying I agree with this, but it food for thought, Jay could make this happen next year with a piss poor attitude and we wouldn't get as much.

Popps
03-09-2009, 10:30 AM
Seems silly, but maybe there's a good reason. It may not be as nefarious as it sounds.

But, considering the conjecture around all this, postponing it does seem a little odd.

TD30
03-09-2009, 10:31 AM
I heard the same thing on 850,in regards to them not meeting, this morning while driving to work.

CEH
03-09-2009, 10:31 AM
This is bull. He posted the same crap over on Broncos Country.

No I read it on BM and decided at 10:00 am I would listen to the update and see if I heard the same thing.

Anyone with a KOA link can validate for themselves. Wait till 11:00 am.
Not sure if they have a 10:30 am news update

Archer81
03-09-2009, 10:31 AM
Hmm...I sense shenanigans.

:Broncos:

MagicHef
03-09-2009, 10:31 AM
Doesn't Cutler have to be here in a week or so anyway?

garandman
03-09-2009, 10:32 AM
Is this confirmed or not, I can't find any info about this.

SoDak Bronco
03-09-2009, 10:33 AM
i am listening to KOA now, it has some dirty russian talking, no updates at this time

rugbythug
03-09-2009, 10:36 AM
Guy at work heard the same thing on the Radio.-Jay to angry, McD Won't want to see him when he is angry!

Beantown Bronco
03-09-2009, 10:36 AM
Cause we're trading Cutler to Minn. for AP, their 1st and 2nd...Plummer will be the back up to Simms. Possibly trading our 1st and 2nd round picks to move up to draft someone we want??

puff....puff....give.....

you're f'ing up the rotation.

Archer81
03-09-2009, 10:38 AM
...Jaysus...


:Broncos:

garandman
03-09-2009, 10:40 AM
On a lighter note, the Obama - Irkle avatar is funny as hell!

eddie mac
03-09-2009, 10:41 AM
Breaking News

Who gives a ****, it's the beginning of March not ****ing training camp.

Stay at home Jay and dress your Barbie dolls.

Archer81
03-09-2009, 10:43 AM
On a lighter note, the Obama - Irkle avatar is funny as hell!


Thanks.


:Broncos:

arghemtee
03-09-2009, 10:43 AM
Still no links?

HEAV
03-09-2009, 10:49 AM
Well Jay will be in Denver on the 14th.

http://danisfoundation.givingtechnology.com/index.cfm?content=page&page=CelebrityRoasters

-----------------------

If the kid still is pissed, then it's time to move him. His temper and immaturity are not what this franchise needs. Need a grown man playing and leading on the football field.

enjolras
03-09-2009, 10:51 AM
This is seriously the longest tantrum I've ever seen.

Beantown Bronco
03-09-2009, 10:53 AM
This is seriously the longest tantrum I've ever seen.

You must be either single or gay.

bronco militia
03-09-2009, 10:55 AM
You must be either single or gay.

oh Snap!

:rofl:

jacob2125
03-09-2009, 10:57 AM
This was "reported" by this guy over an hour and a half ago and it's not all over NFL.com or any other football site, radio station or TV show? If this were true it would be big news. Or news period.

Pseudofool
03-09-2009, 11:00 AM
Meh. This means nothing.

yerner
03-09-2009, 11:01 AM
Who cares, maybe he isn't in town. He has a contract and no chance of getting out of it.

SonOfLe-loLang
03-09-2009, 11:05 AM
Thanks.


:Broncos:

While the image of Obama as urkel is somewhat funny, i think its funnier that republicans are actually trying to sell this as "obama's economy" to the american people. Incredible. Every economist had said our economy hadn't reached bottom yet and wouldnt until well into 2009, yet 45 days into his service, it's obama's economy. Their stupidity really knows no bounds.

Archer81
03-09-2009, 11:11 AM
While the image of Obama as urkel is somewhat funny, i think its funnier that republicans are actually trying to sell this as "obama's economy" to the american people. Incredible. Every economist had said our economy hadn't reached bottom yet and wouldnt until well into 2009, yet 45 days into his service, it's obama's economy. Their stupidity really knows no bounds.


Kind of like the democrats trying to sell Rush Limbaugh as the "leader" of the republican party? Maybe the democrats, who have had control of the house and senate since 2006, paid more attention to economics and less to talk show hosts, we wouldnt be where we are now. Just a thought.

:Broncos:

bombquixote
03-09-2009, 11:12 AM
While the image of Obama as urkel is somewhat funny, i think its funnier that republicans are actually trying to sell this as "obama's economy" to the american people. Incredible. Every economist had said our economy hadn't reached bottom yet and wouldnt until well into 2009, yet 45 days into his service, it's obama's economy. Their stupidity really knows no bounds.

Word.

Kaylore
03-09-2009, 11:13 AM
On a lighter note, the Obama - Irkle avatar is funny as hell!

Yeah it is.

bronco militia
03-09-2009, 11:15 AM
While the image of Obama as urkel is somewhat funny, i think its funnier that republicans are actually trying to sell this as "obama's economy" to the american people. Incredible. Every economist had said our economy hadn't reached bottom yet and wouldnt until well into 2009, yet 45 days into his service, it's obama's economy. Their stupidity really knows no bounds.

well of course...only the Messiah gets to take credit for a rebound.

anyways, it's like Deja Vu all over againwith Bushy Sr. and Slick willy.

arghemtee
03-09-2009, 11:18 AM
The rumor in Tenn is a move to bring Jay back home, and give up Young a 1st and 3rd. The hold up would be finding a team to take Young because he wouldn't fit in Denver, so another team would be involved. Tenn would give almost anything to bring Jay back so it might be time cash in big time.. Jay knows this is a possibility and wants to say home !!! Sims might be the man in Denver and then use the picks and trades to rebuild the D.

I'm certainly not saying I agree with this, but it food for thought, Jay could make this happen next year with a piss poor attitude and we wouldn't get as much.

Vince Young? LOL

Tombstone RJ
03-09-2009, 11:20 AM
Word.

The Free Market has zero confidence in Obama. Whether you like Obama or not, this is disconcerting.

I love the way Obama is trying to change the downslide by running around, making speeches to the people. Sure, it's inspiring and all, but it's doing little to stimulate the economy.

Obama has already won in the court of public opinion. Now he needs to stay in the white house and win over Wall Street. For some strange reason, he's not doing this. He's spending my money flying AF1 around, making speeches.

TonyR
03-09-2009, 11:20 AM
Kind of like the democrats trying to sell Rush Limbaugh as the "leader" of the republican party?

The beauty of it for Obama and the Dems is that they don't have to sell it. The GOP is doing the sales job themselves!

no-pseudo-fan
03-09-2009, 11:20 AM
Looking for a reliable source on this one. With such little news, this should be blowing up, and trade rumors should start up again.

Kaylore
03-09-2009, 11:21 AM
There is no one saying this is true. It's not on Adam Schefter's blog, either. If this was true it would be everywhere because it would fuel the fire.

What about Cutler for Peppers and a first? I'm not saying I'm for this or that it's going to happen. I just wonder if Hotrod's "story" is true if this has something to do with it. Cutler on that offense with a defense that can actually play would send that team to the Super Bowl.

epicSocialism4tw
03-09-2009, 11:21 AM
Meh. This means nothing.

Yep.

It looks like Broncos fans are the Drama Queens in this whole deal.

Let it pan out, people.

Cutler will be a Bronco next season. He is too valuable to the franchise to be traded...in the same way that Manning or Brady are with their franchises.

A team would have to give up a boat load of assets to get him. I dont know if anyone is that desperate.

Pony Boy
03-09-2009, 11:21 AM
While the image of Obama as urkel is somewhat funny, i think its funnier that republicans are actually trying to sell this as "obama's economy" to the american people. Incredible. Every economist had said our economy hadn't reached bottom yet and wouldnt until well into 2009, yet 45 days into his service, it's obama's economy. Their stupidity really knows no bounds.

I'm trying to link this to football?
So, let me get this straight, is this offically not McDaniels team until it starts winning games? Or was it his team the day he walked into the office?

SonOfLe-loLang
03-09-2009, 11:22 AM
Kind of like the democrats trying to sell Rush Limbaugh as the "leader" of the republican party? Maybe the democrats, who have had control of the house and senate since 2006, paid more attention to economics and less to talk show hosts, we wouldnt be where we are now. Just a thought.

:Broncos:

The wheels had been in motion LONG before that...not to mention, any sort of progressive legislation put forth by that congress (and by no means do i think that congress was effective) was vetoed.

I'm a staunch left winger, but by no means thinks Obama is the "savior," though i do like his vision even though i dont agree with some of his policy (especially when it comes to how he's handling the banks.) But to say this is "his economy" is asinine. And if we do get out of it, he does deserve the credit (but the stimulus needs to be higher and it would make sense to nationalize ze banks)

brncobrett
03-09-2009, 11:22 AM
If this is true and I'm not sayin it is, it's time to ship him outta here IMO..I think this has been nothing but a huge distraction in an offseason that should be about moving forward and bringing this team back to power! Send Culter and Marshall to Arizona for Leinart and Boldin. Stop the freakin BS he said she said crap!! Let him go whine and cry for somebody else..

epicSocialism4tw
03-09-2009, 11:23 AM
If this is true and I'm not sayin it is, it's time to ship him outta here IMO..I think this has been nothing but a huge distraction in an offseason that should be about moving forward and bringing this team back to power! Send Culter and Marshall to Arizona for Leinart and Boldin. Stop the freakin BS he said she said crap!! Let him go whine and cry for somebody else..

That would be an unmitigated disaster.

theAPAOps5
03-09-2009, 11:25 AM
I have looked everywhere. I am finding no mention of this. Didn't Adam say this LAST week.

SonOfLe-loLang
03-09-2009, 11:26 AM
I'd love to know the truth behind this before i make judgment. Anyone have any word of anything?

Archer81
03-09-2009, 11:28 AM
The wheels had been in motion LONG before that...not to mention, any sort of progressive legislation put forth by that congress (and by no means do i think that congress was effective) was vetoed.

I'm a staunch left winger, but by no means thinks Obama is the "savior," though i do like his vision even though i dont agree with some of his policy (especially when it comes to how he's handling the banks.) But to say this is "his economy" is asinine. And if we do get out of it, he does deserve the credit (but the stimulus needs to be higher and it would make sense to nationalize ze banks)


It is his economy, he wanted the job, didnt he? Can you name ONE time in the last 80 years where increased government spending has aided economic growth? How is Obama going to lower taxes on 95% of the country but triple the budget?

:Broncos:

rugbythug
03-09-2009, 11:28 AM
The wheels had been in motion LONG before that...not to mention, any sort of progressive legislation put forth by that congress (and by no means do i think that congress was effective) was vetoed.

I'm a staunch left winger, but by no means thinks Obama is the "savior," though i do like his vision even though i dont agree with some of his policy (especially when it comes to how he's handling the banks.) But to say this is "his economy" is asinine. And if we do get out of it, he does deserve the credit (but the stimulus needs to be higher and it would make sense to nationalize ze banks)

This is Just Stupid and Wrong. A we will get out of it with our with out Barry. If he stays out of the way probably sooner.

Recessions and down turns happen. ALways have always will, it is how it works. The more Gov't gets in the way the harder it is to right the ship. Gov't is too slow, too self centered, and too expensive to be of any use.

Is it possible to even spend more money?

Nationalize the Banks? I hope you are kidding, Power corrupts absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Popcorn Sutton
03-09-2009, 11:28 AM
I think what happened is KOA was replaying what Schefter said last week...

arghemtee
03-09-2009, 11:28 AM
McDaniels is single-handedly tearing apart this once great organization. We are the laughing stock of the league and McDip**** continues to dig our grave deeper and deeper.

Rock Chalk
03-09-2009, 11:29 AM
While the image of Obama as urkel is somewhat funny, i think its funnier that republicans are actually trying to sell this as "obama's economy" to the american people. Incredible. Every economist had said our economy hadn't reached bottom yet and wouldnt until well into 2009, yet 45 days into his service, it's obama's economy. Their stupidity really knows no bounds.

Congress has more control over the economy than the president does.

And the economy started going to hell right about the time the democrats took over in 2006.

theAPAOps5
03-09-2009, 11:29 AM
McDaniels is single-handedly tearing apart this once great organization. We are the laughing stock of the league and McDip**** continues to dig our grave deeper and deeper.

Dude just shut up.

Archer81
03-09-2009, 11:30 AM
McDaniels is single-handedly tearing apart this once great organization. We are the laughing stock of the league and McDip**** continues to dig our grave deeper and deeper.


Wait...you mean a new head coach is going to have ideas about how to run THEIR team? NO WAY!! Were you born this stupid or do you have to work at it?

:Broncos:

theAPAOps5
03-09-2009, 11:30 AM
I think what happened is KOA was replaying what Schefter said last week...

EXACTLY, God people are just looking for reasons to freak out.

Popcorn Sutton
03-09-2009, 11:31 AM
EXACTLY, God people are just looking for reasons to freak out.

What we have here is a failure to communicate!

Rock Chalk
03-09-2009, 11:32 AM
well of course...only the Messiah gets to take credit for a rebound.

anyways, it's like Deja Vu all over againwith Bushy Sr. and Slick willy.

Except Slick Willy had the benefit of riding the internet boom.

Obama will have no such benefit. To fix this mess that both parties are absolutely responsible for (and anyone saying this is one parties fault or another is a ****ing idiot) he will need to actually know what he is doing.

And so far, it does not appear that he, nor anyone else does.

theAPAOps5
03-09-2009, 11:32 AM
And this is exactly why people call for the 100 post rule.

alpine
03-09-2009, 11:32 AM
Meeting still scheduled for this week. "Just not Monday."

CBS4Denver (http://cbs4denver.com/broncos/nfl.broncos.cutler.2.953926.html)

theAPAOps5
03-09-2009, 11:33 AM
This is an interesting development....... Political Jacks

SoDak Bronco
03-09-2009, 11:34 AM
I heard the KOA report at 12, it sounded like they were claiming it was an interview this morning and that they aren't meeting today. Why would they be running that as their top sports story at the top of every hour?

theAPAOps5
03-09-2009, 11:35 AM
I heard the KOA report at 12, it sounded like they were claiming it was an interview this morning and that they aren't meeting today. Why would they be running that as their top sports story at the top of every hour?

Yet on their website it still says they are meeting Monday. LOL

epicSocialism4tw
03-09-2009, 11:36 AM
This is an interesting development....... Political Jacks

Its probably better than all of the petulant fits over Cutler.

montrose
03-09-2009, 11:38 AM
What about Cutler for Peppers and a first? I'm not saying I'm for this or that it's going to happen. I just wonder if Hotrod's "story" is true if this has something to do with it. Cutler on that offense with a defense that can actually play would send that team to the Super Bowl.

That's an interesting deal, although I'm still really shaky about Peppers considering his age, reported lack of motivation and shifting to a new position. I'd rather move him for as many picks as possible. If Detroit would go Jay for #1 and #20, as unlikely as that is, I'd do it. We could take three defensive blue chippers and draft Nate Davis in round two for Coach Josh to develop. From what I've gathered on Davis, he's a great decision maker and a guy who commands the respect of his teammates - sounds like a New England guy to me.

epicSocialism4tw
03-09-2009, 11:42 AM
While the image of Obama as urkel is somewhat funny, i think its funnier that republicans are actually trying to sell this as "obama's economy" to the american people. Incredible. Every economist had said our economy hadn't reached bottom yet and wouldnt until well into 2009, yet 45 days into his service, it's obama's economy. Their stupidity really knows no bounds.

The problems associated with the downturn in confidence in the markets can be DIRECTLY attributed to Obama's stimulus package.

He DID NOT inherit his stimulus.

Blueflame
03-09-2009, 11:42 AM
I'd love to know the truth behind this before i make judgment. Anyone have any word of anything?

What? This is the Orange Mane... we react first and confirm later. Ha!

arghemtee
03-09-2009, 11:43 AM
Wait...you mean a new head coach is going to have ideas about how to run THEIR team? NO WAY!! Were you born this stupid or do you have to work at it?

:Broncos:

Pat Bowlen's team. McDaniels was hired to COACH the team, not run it straight into the ground.

If Bowlen let's Cutler go, after saying "Cutler is the man around here", it proved he is a gutless drunk.

I feel bad for you. You are wearing blinders on and only look in one direction.

Cito Pelon
03-09-2009, 11:44 AM
This is an interesting development....... Political Jacks

Yup, but more like hopscotch, or tetherball, or bombardment. Grade school games.

Archer81
03-09-2009, 11:45 AM
Pat Bowlen's team. McDaniels was hired to COACH the team, not run it straight into the ground.

If Bowlen let's Cutler go, after saying "Cutler is the man around here", it proved he is a gutless drunk.

I feel bad for you. You are wearing blinders on and only look in one direction.


I was totally wrong...you are not stupid...you are psychotic.


:Broncos:

DB_champ24
03-09-2009, 11:45 AM
Or maybe we'll keep Cutler and everyone relaxes a little and take the political crap somewhere else?!?!?

TheReverend
03-09-2009, 11:46 AM
There is no one saying this is true. It's not on Adam Schefter's blog, either. If this was true it would be everywhere because it would fuel the fire.

What about Cutler for Peppers and a first? I'm not saying I'm for this or that it's going to happen. I just wonder if Hotrod's "story" is true if this has something to do with it. Cutler on that offense with a defense that can actually play would send that team to the Super Bowl.

The Eagles have Car's first...? Regardless, it's still a poor move, imo.

Blueflame
03-09-2009, 11:47 AM
I was totally wrong...you are not stupid...you are psychotic.


:Broncos:

More than just a few Broncos fans agree with him that McD messed up, y'know... ;)

Archer81
03-09-2009, 11:49 AM
More than just a few Broncos fans agree with him that McD messed up, y'know... ;)



Dogs and cats, living together...Mass hysteria!


:Broncos:

Blueflame
03-09-2009, 11:52 AM
Dogs and cats, living together...Mass hysteria!


:Broncos:

Just sayin' that if it's "psychotic" and "stupid" to believe that McD messed up, then roughly 2 of 3 Broncos fans are "psychotic and stupid" judging from post-fiasco polls around here.

scttgrd
03-09-2009, 11:53 AM
I love it, get rid of the young QB that will be around for at least 10 years and keep the coach that will be lucky to last 3 years.

vancejohnson82
03-09-2009, 11:56 AM
Pat Bowlen's team. McDaniels was hired to COACH the team, not run it straight into the ground.

If Bowlen let's Cutler go, after saying "Cutler is the man around here", it proved he is a gutless drunk.

I feel bad for you. You are wearing blinders on and only look in one direction.

so you joined the site in January of 2009....and immediately started to call for the coach's head...

seems like you have a bit of an agenda

SonOfLe-loLang
03-09-2009, 11:56 AM
It is his economy, he wanted the job, didnt he? Can you name ONE time in the last 80 years where increased government spending has aided economic growth? How is Obama going to lower taxes on 95% of the country but triple the budget?

:Broncos:

Oh, its his bear now, but his policies arent the CAUSE of it.
And yes, the New Deal raised jobs and the GDP...anything else is just revisionist history, and the thing that really got us out of the depression was ww2, which was really a huge government spending plan. We could have made all those tanks and bullets and dumped em in the ocean and got the same economic effect. So there's your case.

TonyR
03-09-2009, 12:02 PM
The problems associated with the downturn in confidence in the markets can be DIRECTLY attributed to Obama's stimulus package.


Completely incorrect. The lack of confidence in the markets is primarily a result of the difficulties the banking industry is having. Without government intervention some financial institutions would have failed by now and things would considerably worse.

DomCasual
03-09-2009, 12:03 PM
While the image of Obama as urkel is somewhat funny, i think its funnier that republicans are actually trying to sell this as "obama's economy" to the american people. Incredible. Every economist had said our economy hadn't reached bottom yet and wouldnt until well into 2009, yet 45 days into his service, it's obama's economy. Their stupidity really knows no bounds.

It's almost as silly as Osama bin Laden having created himself only eight months into Bush's first term.

But I digress.

I will say that I agree with you that it's pretty silly to argue Obama created this mess.

TonyR
03-09-2009, 12:05 PM
It is his economy, he wanted the job, didnt he? Can you name ONE time in the last 80 years where increased government spending has aided economic growth? How is Obama going to lower taxes on 95% of the country but triple the budget?


Yes, thank god Bush and the GOP didn't borrow and spend during good economic times. And thank god they didn't take a surplus and turn it into an epic deficit. And thank god they didn't get this country into a senseless war and reduce taxes on the wealthy. And thank god they didn't create the biggest government in history. Because if they did those things we'd be hypocrites to criticize Obama and the Dems right now, wouldn't we?

TheReverend
03-09-2009, 12:08 PM
This is a Cutler/FO thread...

SonOfLe-loLang
03-09-2009, 12:09 PM
sorry for starting another political discussion. i dont even know why i bother, all i get is a headache

montrose
03-09-2009, 12:11 PM
This is a Cutler/FO thread...

Hilarious! I was just about to ask how in the blue hell this happened.

Archer81
03-09-2009, 12:11 PM
Yes, thank god Bush and the GOP didn't borrow and spend during good economic times. And thank god they didn't take a surplus and turn it into an epic deficit. And thank god they didn't get this country into a senseless war and reduce taxes on the wealthy. And thank god they didn't create the biggest government in history. Because if they did those things we'd be hypocrites to criticize Obama and the Dems right now, wouldn't we?



Yeah, because you know me so well to know I just love it when any American government wastes money. Also, the "surplus" didnt exist. The government simply didnt increase spending and fell UNDER budget. That happens when you cut intelligence and military spending.

No worries, Obama's budget will be the largest in American history, and you know democrats cant resist raising taxes to spend my money the best way they know how. Too bad when Obama is saying only the top 5% wage earners will see tax increases he is lying.

:Broncos:

~Crash~
03-09-2009, 12:11 PM
Oh, its his bear now, but his policies arent the CAUSE of it.
And yes, the New Deal raised jobs and the GDP...anything else is just revisionist history, and the thing that really got us out of the depression was ww2, which was really a huge government spending plan. We could have made all those tanks and bullets and dumped em in the ocean and got the same economic effect. So there's your case.

So government saved us in WWII :notworthy :notworthy .... move to another country France will save you from us freedom lovers . China or Russia might be a better .:welcome:

Archer81
03-09-2009, 12:13 PM
Just sayin' that if it's "psychotic" and "stupid" to believe that McD messed up, then roughly 2 of 3 Broncos fans are "psychotic and stupid" judging from post-fiasco polls around here.


Nope. Not saying he didnt mess up. I think its riduclous for some idiot to have a fire McDaniels slant when he has had the job for a month and a half. If he trades Cutler, he trades him. 2/3's of you gonna stop watching the Broncos because of it? If so, then yes, you are all psychotic and stupid to get that worked up over a game.

:Broncos:

Blueflame
03-09-2009, 12:14 PM
Hilarious! I was just about to ask how in the blue hell this happened.

... and I was just pondering whether or not the now-hijacked thread needs moved to the politics forum... Ha!

Rohirrim
03-09-2009, 12:16 PM
Well, isn't Jeff Fisher the one who originally recommended Cutler to Shanahan? Maybe after the VY fiasco, Fisher has carte blanche from ownership to do what it takes? Of course, the Titans' picks are pretty low on the totem pole. They have the 30 slot.

Archer81
03-09-2009, 12:17 PM
Oh, its his bear now, but his policies arent the CAUSE of it.
And yes, the New Deal raised jobs and the GDP...anything else is just revisionist history, and the thing that really got us out of the depression was ww2, which was really a huge government spending plan. We could have made all those tanks and bullets and dumped em in the ocean and got the same economic effect. So there's your case.



FDR took office in 1933. From 1933 to 1942, Unemployment never dipped below 12%, despite massive government spending and "stimulus" to build national infrastructure. It took a world war and the destruction of half the world's industry to jump start the american economy.

:Broncos:

Archer81
03-09-2009, 12:17 PM
This thread is now mine...moo ha ha ha...

All because of Obama looking like Urkel.

:Broncos:

Blueflame
03-09-2009, 12:18 PM
Nope. Not saying he didnt mess up. I think its riduclous for some idiot to have a fire McDaniels slant when he has had the job for a month and a half. If he trades Cutler, he trades him. 2/3's of you gonna stop watching the Broncos because of it? If so, then yes, you are all psychotic and stupid to get that worked up over a game.

:Broncos:

I think if he trades Cutler, a significant percentage of the Broncos fanbase would disapprove... and if the team then ended up under .500 in the upcoming season, many would want McD fired. Winning football games is what we all want; we sometimes just disagree on the best ways of doing that.

Rohirrim
03-09-2009, 12:19 PM
Well, if that's the way this is going to go, I'll throw something out that will cheer everybody up: This morning, Warren Buffett said the economy has "gone over the cliff" and the Chinese are trying to pick a fight with the U.S. Navy. The yuks just keep coming. ;D

Man-Goblin
03-09-2009, 12:22 PM
Hilarious! I was just about to ask how in the blue hell this happened.

Urkel did it.

Los Broncos
03-09-2009, 12:24 PM
Doesn't sound good, hopefully this works out.

BroncoMan4ever
03-09-2009, 12:28 PM
is this really that big of a deal considering the first camp is in like a week?

maybe they just decided to wait until the first team camp instead of having Jay fly in from Tennessee a week early.

TheDave
03-09-2009, 12:35 PM
Just a couple of questions...

How would Schefter know? Dove Valley is on Media lockdown and i highly doubt Cutler or his agent are "leaking" this story to him.

Who cares when they meet? Today, tomorrow, next week, next month? what does it matter? The FO is busy with FA and the draft and it's the offseason for Cutler.

I know it's the offseason, but people need to relax.

SonOfLe-loLang
03-09-2009, 12:35 PM
FDR took office in 1933. From 1933 to 1942, Unemployment never dipped below 12%, despite massive government spending and "stimulus" to build national infrastructure. It took a world war and the destruction of half the world's industry to jump start the american economy.

:Broncos:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-abrams/winning-the-economic-argu_b_167301.html

frerottenextelway
03-09-2009, 12:38 PM
FDR took office in 1933. From 1933 to 1942, Unemployment never dipped below 12%, despite massive government spending and "stimulus" to build national infrastructure. It took a world war and the destruction of half the world's industry to jump start the american economy.

:Broncos:

Maybe it didn't go below 10% because it was at 25% when he took office?

Here's the GDP growth under FDR:


http://images2.dailykos.com/images/user/363/Depression_GDP_output_1.gif

SonOfLe-loLang
03-09-2009, 12:40 PM
Maybe it didn't go below 10% because it was at 25% when he took office?

Here's the GDP growth under FDR:


http://images2.dailykos.com/images/user/363/Depression_GDP_output_1.gif

ha, thats funny, i just linked that same graph. I dont know where the revisionist "the new deal didnt work" line of thought came from. Probably along with the reagan never raised taxes bit.

theAPAOps5
03-09-2009, 12:40 PM
seriously blue you need to move this to its proper locations! LOL

SonOfLe-loLang
03-09-2009, 12:41 PM
Well, if that's the way this is going to go, I'll throw something out that will cheer everybody up: This morning, Warren Buffett said the economy has "gone over the cliff" and the Chinese are trying to pick a fight with the U.S. Navy. The yuks just keep coming. ;D

haha warren's profits just went down 60 percent...didnt they?

lex
03-09-2009, 12:43 PM
Nope. Not saying he didnt mess up. I think its riduclous for some idiot to have a fire McDaniels slant when he has had the job for a month and a half. If he trades Cutler, he trades him. 2/3's of you gonna stop watching the Broncos because of it? If so, then yes, you are all psychotic and stupid to get that worked up over a game.

:Broncos:

Stop watching? Lets not resort to hyperbole. In the magical world called "Somewhere In Between" exists such notions of buying less gear/merchandise and not making trips to games in person. Myself, I try to go to at least one Bronco game in person a year. I live in Chicago, you see. When Im not pleased how things are going in the FO, it makes it a lot easier to not go. I realize Im but one fan and my ticket is a grain of sand at the beach. If not me, someone else would buy it. But what about when there are more who are like me? Remember, Pat picked the guy only 6% of the people wanted.

Blueflame
03-09-2009, 12:43 PM
seriously blue you need to move this to its proper locations! LOL

Perhaps I need to go through and pare the political posts off into a new thread... that's more work than just moving this thread though. LOL

Rohirrim
03-09-2009, 12:48 PM
Perhaps I need to go through and pare the political posts off into a new thread... that's more work than just moving this thread though. LOL

You just need to erase Urkel. He started the whole thing. ;D

broncosteven
03-09-2009, 12:51 PM
Perhaps I need to go through and pare the political posts off into a new thread... that's more work than just moving this thread though. LOL

Just move the thread to the butt. What football talk in there is just speculation and hate same for the political stuff!

Gcver2ver3
03-09-2009, 12:54 PM
this thread has been hijacked...

but anyways, it may as well be because i don't see any site verifying this Culter no-show...

Not ESPN, FOX, NFL Network, PFT, ROTOWORLD, no one...

i checked Schefter's blog and saw nothing...

if this Cutler thing was true and Schefter was the one to break it, it would be on headlines across most all sites...

at this point, i'm not buying this story...

Popps
03-09-2009, 12:56 PM
haha warren's profits just went down 60 percent...didnt they?

Ummm.... Warren is going to be just fine. Don't you worry about Warren.

Taco John
03-09-2009, 12:56 PM
political Threadjack Ends Here...

Taco John
03-09-2009, 12:58 PM
Good point. Done.

No, this is a legit topic. The politics threadjacking is what is not legit.

The topic should stay. The dumbasses should go.

DomCasual
03-09-2009, 12:59 PM
Do people's worlds really come to an end when a thread goes off topic?

Seriously?

I mean, it shouldn't happen. It would be great if it didn't happen. But does it really cause that much angst?

frerottenextelway
03-09-2009, 01:00 PM
No, this is a legit topic. The politics threadjacking is what is not legit.

The topic should stay. The dumbasses should go.

This thread belonged in the butt before the political stuff even started. The initial post is false.

BroncosinDC
03-09-2009, 01:01 PM
So do I blame Obama or Bush for this whole thing? I mean Shanny was fired under Bush's watch, but it went to total hell under Obama. It's so confusing.

I knew I should have wrote in John Albert Elway.

Blueflame
03-09-2009, 01:01 PM
No, this is a legit topic. The politics threadjacking is what is not legit.

The topic should stay. The dumbasses should go.

Perhaps the title should reflect that apparently it's just an unverified rumor at this point though...

Taco John
03-09-2009, 01:02 PM
This thread belonged in the butt before the political stuff even started. The initial post is false.


I haven't been able to confirm it one way or the other yet... In a phone meeting right now.

Popps
03-09-2009, 01:07 PM
No, this is a legit topic. The politics threadjacking is what is not legit.

The topic should stay. The dumbasses should go.

:thumbs:

theAPAOps5
03-09-2009, 01:07 PM
Its been confirmed that they aren't meeting today but ARE meeting this week. CBS4 has a story and thats about it. No other site is even talking about it.

alpine
03-09-2009, 01:11 PM
I actually posted a link to a story on the CBS4 site earlier since everyone was trying to find out a proper connection. They reckoned it is taking place this week but not today.

DeusExManning
03-09-2009, 01:18 PM
No where is this being reported and it is not on Schefter's blog or on PFT

maher_tyler
03-09-2009, 01:24 PM
Dude just shut up.

I agree...from here on out anyone who bitches should be banned for acting like a bunch of females w/ all this damn drama around here!!

Paladin
03-09-2009, 01:26 PM
Females?

maher_tyler
03-09-2009, 01:28 PM
I heard the KOA report at 12, it sounded like they were claiming it was an interview this morning and that they aren't meeting today. Why would they be running that as their top sports story at the top of every hour?

They do it purposely to get everyone on the OM to freak out..and sit back a laugh histarically.

penguintheory
03-09-2009, 01:28 PM
Hmm...I sense shenanigans.

:Broncos:

Shanahanigans?

theAPAOps5
03-09-2009, 01:28 PM
I agree...from here on out anyone who b****es should be banned for acting like a bunch of females w/ all this damn drama around here!!

Its okay to have your opinion and be vocal about it. But that guy signed up in January and every now and then comes around and spouts off about McD and what not. Seems to me Wolf made a new account and is now playing that card. That or Casino Royale is back!

CEH
03-09-2009, 01:28 PM
http://www.850koa.com/pages/breaking.html?feed=124975&article=5127988

Adam Schefter: Cutler and McDaniels won't meet today

The meeting between Broncos QB Jay Cutler and coach Josh McDaniels that was supposed to happen today is not taking place. Adam Schefter tells 850 KOA the two have yet to reschedule the date and it may not happen soon. Cutler was miffed when McDaniels and the Broncos supposedly entertained thoughts of trading him. The Broncos say Cutler is their quarterback.

Hear Adam Shefter's interview on 850 KOA's Colorado"s Morning News.Click Here

Here is the podcast

http://www.850koa.com/cc-common/mediaplayer/player.html?redir=yes&mps=cmn.php&mid=http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/29876/1h/cchannel.download.akamai.com/29876/668/richmedia/shefter_on_cutler.mp3?CCOMRRMID=26252164&CPROG=RICHMEDIA&MARKET=DENVER-CO&NG_FORMAT=newstalk&NG_ID=koa850am&OR_NEWSFORMAT=News/Talk&OWNER=668&SERVER_NAME=www.koaradio.com&SITE_ID=668&STATION_ID=KOA-AM&TRACK=Shefter_on_Cutler_

theAPAOps5
03-09-2009, 01:30 PM
EDITED: Didn't have time to click the link. My bad CEH.

HEAV
03-09-2009, 01:36 PM
so you joined the site in January of 2009....and immediately started to call for the coach's head...

seems like you have a bit of an agenda


A few trolls came out when Shanny got Sh*t-Canned. But once the man-child got his feeling hurt, every troll came up from the darkness.

CEH
03-09-2009, 01:40 PM
Still only says they won't meet today. Your drama queen post said this week.

"They will not be sitting down today and it is my understanding they will not be meeting this week" - direct quote from Adam Shefter

Exactly how I reported it. No editorial comments added. Straigth from the horse's mouth

TonyR
03-09-2009, 01:41 PM
Adam Schefter: Cutler and McDaniels won't meet today

The meeting between Broncos QB Jay Cutler and coach Josh McDaniels that was supposed to happen today is not taking place. Adam Schefter tells 850 KOA the two have yet to reschedule the date and it may not happen soon. Cutler was miffed when McDaniels and the Broncos supposedly entertained thoughts of trading him. The Broncos say Cutler is their quarterback.


Hate to say it but this backs up the OP. Everyone who bashed him please line up to apologize...

Taco John
03-09-2009, 01:43 PM
Still only says they won't meet today. Your drama queen post said this week.



Personally, I think that you're the one being the drama queen here... CEH just posted what he heard on the radio. Here's his post:

Adam Shefter just reported on KOA Radio Cutler and the Broncos will not meet
anytime in the near future though he did say both sides will have to work this out


I think you are knee jerking to call him a drama queen over that. It seems to me that you've adopted McDaniels as your baby, and anything that could even be remotely interpreted as negative earns your adamant reprisal - whether it's actually negative or just news that could be interpreted as negative.

HEAV
03-09-2009, 01:44 PM
"They will not be sitting down today and it is my understanding they will not be meeting this week" - direct quote from Adam Shefter

Exactly how I reported it. No editorial comments added. Straigth from the horse's mouth

That's what I heard on the link.

Lil Jay is still pissed and won't come outta the house with his ball.

What a baby we have has a quarterback. Ship the temper tantum to the Jet and let he see what real media heat is in a big city!

ZONA
03-09-2009, 01:45 PM
No $**** - take the political crap somewhere else. There is an entire forum just for that. So STFU.

If you have something new to say about Cutler and McD that nobody knows, then post something. Otherwise, this is garbage time on this post. Bunch of gossip queens I tell ya.

theAPAOps5
03-09-2009, 01:46 PM
Personally, I think that you're the one being the drama queen here... CEH just posted what he heard on the radio. Here's his post:




Well you are an expert on this so I will back off :curtsey: . CEH sorry I called that drama queen. You heard it right I heard it wrong! :kiss:

Requiem
03-09-2009, 01:46 PM
I had a meeting with Cutler and discussed his diabetes. Says it's making him him angry.

theAPAOps5
03-09-2009, 01:48 PM
Whats a him him?

Beantown Bronco
03-09-2009, 01:53 PM
The deal is DONE!

Requiem
03-09-2009, 01:56 PM
Whats a him him?

Don't ever do drugs, OK? :thumbsup: That's what happens happens.

ZONA
03-09-2009, 01:56 PM
The deal is DONE!

What deal? The deal you made with your boyfriend that he would not tell your wife you were secretly gay?

WTF?

What fockin deal?

tsiguy96
03-09-2009, 01:57 PM
if cutler called this off because hes still pissed, im 100% in favor for trading his pussy ass. that is just unacceptable, he needs to grow the **** up or waste his NFL career going form team to team like TO pissing everyone off.

SouthStndJunkie
03-09-2009, 01:58 PM
You guys are worrying about this meeting too much.

The media is trying to squeeze every last drop from this story.

They will meet sometime soon and they will hash it out.

Beantown Bronco
03-09-2009, 02:00 PM
What deal? The deal you made with your boyfriend that he would not tell your wife you were secretly gay?

WTF?

What fockin deal?

ummmmm, ok Francis.

it's an inside joke

SportinOne
03-09-2009, 02:02 PM
I don't believe ANYTHING that ANYONE says right now other than Cutler and McDaniels. Unless it comes from their mouths i will completely disregard it.

That said, if McDaniels trades Cutler or lets him walk as soon as he hits free agency i am done with the Broncos, and probably done with football.. It would just be too deflating... To go through Bubby Brister, Brian Griese, Steve Beurlin, and Jake Plummer before finally finding Cutler only to want to toss him aside for Trent Dilfer 2.0..i just can't do it.. i just don't want to win like that.

Man-Goblin
03-09-2009, 02:04 PM
You guys are worrying about this meeting too much.

The media is trying to squeeze every last drop from this story.

They will meet sometime soon and they will hash it out.

Considering the cancelled meeting is just one small blip in cyberspace, I would offer that it is us that are trying to squeeze the juice from this story.

To quote the great movie 'Swingers', "it's almost like you miss the pain."

frerottenextelway
03-09-2009, 02:07 PM
if cutler called this off because hes still pissed, im 100% in favor for trading his p***Y ass. that is just unacceptable, he needs to grow the **** up or waste his NFL career going form team to team like TO pissing everyone off.

Sounds like McD called this one off for today.

TonyR
03-09-2009, 02:16 PM
ummmmm, ok Francis.

it's an inside joke

Yes, and yet another one that's long past being funny and needs to die right alongside "bust off 2K in our system". But the Lombardi Trophy might never get old.

theAPAOps5
03-09-2009, 02:18 PM
Seriously if its the 14th and Cutler isn't showing and they aren't meeting then its time to worry. Thats the real date of drama! :)

BroncoDoug
03-09-2009, 02:18 PM
So is there any hard evidence of all this news really happening today?

DBroncos4life
03-09-2009, 02:21 PM
Sounds like McD called this one off for today.

Even if that is true we need more reasons to toss a QB not named Elway under the bus so back off ok.

maher_tyler
03-09-2009, 02:25 PM
So what happens if we trade Cutler..are people going to off themselves..i can't even imagine this place if he does get traded!!

bronco militia
03-09-2009, 02:28 PM
even imagine this place if he does get traded!!

come on...sure you could

Ha!

maher_tyler
03-09-2009, 02:40 PM
come on...sure you could

Ha!

Yea your right i could...the title of the thread would be "Cutler TRADED"...people would be calling for McD to be fired, something about bowlen being a gutless drunk and should sell the team, someone would mention how we should pick up Vick so he could bust off 2k in our system fallowed by a pic of the Lombardi Trophy...etc

penguintheory
03-09-2009, 02:47 PM
I deleted all the liberal, socialist statistical lies I had previously quoted so as to remain on-topic.

O'Doyle Rulez. Carry on, chaps.

rugbythug
03-09-2009, 02:57 PM
http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/dre1187l.jpg

Paladin
03-09-2009, 02:58 PM
Let it go Penguin, They'll never believe you. That's like pushing a penny through a brain made of jello......

Paladin
03-09-2009, 02:59 PM
http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/dre1187l.jpg

Ummm....did you pay the copyright fee?

Archer81
03-09-2009, 02:59 PM
Shanahanigans?



That too.


:Broncos:

rugbythug
03-09-2009, 03:00 PM
Ummm....did you pay the copyright fee?

I did not reproduce it.

BMarsh615
03-09-2009, 03:05 PM
http://cbs4denver.com/sports/nfl.broncos.cutler.2.953926.html

Cutler-McDaniels Meeting Still To Come


The face-to-face meeting between Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler and new head coach Josh McDaniels is still scheduled for this week. Just not Monday.

Cutler is still planning to sit down with McDaniels sometime in the next few days, but sources told CBS4 Sports they couldn't say when that would happen, other than it was not on the agenda Monday.

The meeting became necessary after the Broncos explored trading Cutler in exchange for Patriots quarterback Matt Cassel. A three-team trade that was discussed would have sent Cutler to Tampa Bay and Cassel to Denver. That deal fell through and Cassel was eventually traded to Kansas City.

When news of the trade talks leaked, Culter expressed shock and anger. The Broncos denied they attempted to trade Cutler, but the quarterback said he was positive that the team dangled his name to other teams.

Ultimately, the Broncos released a statement saying they were not trading Cutler, and that a meeting between the quarterback and coach was scheduled for this week.

Stay Up To Date On The Denver Broncos

• Text: To sign up for CBS4 Broncos Insiders text alerts, text 4broncos to 66247

broncosteven
03-09-2009, 03:23 PM
Even if that is true we need more reasons to toss a QB not named Elway under the bus so back off ok.

Plenty of people tossed John under the bus his 1st 14 years also. John got no free ride until SB XXXII

theAPAOps5
03-09-2009, 03:34 PM
Can you imagine what people would have said here all those years before winning the big one?

Requiem
03-09-2009, 03:39 PM
No, Apa.

wolf754life
03-09-2009, 03:43 PM
cutler has informed the team he wants out...........

now the team is trying to gauge the market.

this situation is irreparable.

theAPAOps5
03-09-2009, 03:43 PM
No, Apa.

I can, Req

theAPAOps5
03-09-2009, 03:44 PM
cutler has informed the team he wants out...........

now the team is trying to gauge the market.

this situation is irreparable.

Riiiigggghhhhttttt

And Marshall was supposed to get that HUGE deal..... 2 weeks ago.

Arkie
03-09-2009, 03:53 PM
Can you imagine what people would have said here all those years before winning the big one?

They said Elway always chokes in the postseason. His loser image probably peaked after his final playoff loss when the Jags upset the heavily favored Broncos in the divisional game. Then Elway won 7 straight postseason games, two SBs, a SB MVP, and rode off into the sunset. :)

theAPAOps5
03-09-2009, 03:58 PM
They said Elway always chokes in the postseason. His loser image probably peaked after his final playoff loss when the Jags upset the heavily favored Broncos in the divisional game. Then Elway won 7 straight postseason games, two SBs, a SB MVP, and rode off into the sunset. :)


I know what they said. I just can imagine what they would say here if Al Gore had invented the internets sooner.

rastaman
03-09-2009, 04:02 PM
i dont want to jump to conclusions.....

but this is probably not a good sign.

Looks like both sides are exercising their LEVERAGE!!! Question is, who will blink first??

Would it not be interesting should Cutler be traded this year, Shanahan will return in 2010 to reunite with Cutlers new team!!!!

rastaman
03-09-2009, 04:05 PM
I had a meeting with Cutler and discussed his diabetes. Says it's making him him angry.

Or making him THIRSTY!!!

MagicHef
03-09-2009, 04:09 PM
Or making him THIRSTY!!!

Diabetes, not pretzels.

Broncojef
03-09-2009, 04:16 PM
Schefter is on 850 right now

montrose
03-09-2009, 04:20 PM
Schefter is on 850 right now

I can't get it to stream. You listening?

crowebomber
03-09-2009, 04:31 PM
Schefter is on 850 right now

I can't stream here either. Someone post a summary por favor.

Broncojef
03-09-2009, 04:33 PM
I can't get it to stream. You listening?

Schefter says;

1) Doesn't know where the mtg today was publicized but doesn't think there will be a mtg this week.

2) Stated NFL teams successes are in large part due to QB and thinks drafting a young kid is a bad move (surprise).

3) McD was unsure of Cutler and his attitude and was interested in getting a known commodity in Cassel.

4) Basically both sides are at a stand-off, repeated Jay has historically held grudges and won't let things go..aka Rivers etc..

Dave Logan says McD should fly to Tennessee and hound Jay until they meet.
Dave thinks if something doesn't get done at some point the Broncos will say enough and rid the team of his services.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
03-09-2009, 04:45 PM
cutler has informed the team he wants out...........

now the team is trying to gauge the market.

this situation is irreparable.

Can't wait to hear from more unnamed, anonymous sources on this matter.

/shoots self in balls

Broncojef
03-09-2009, 04:48 PM
Can't wait to hear from more unnamed, anonymous sources on this matter.

/shoots self in balls

Schefter sounded like both sides need each other and need to get something done. Logan is leaning towards extending another hand to Jay and if he says no again you cut bait.

NYBronco
03-09-2009, 05:11 PM
I would like to know McDaniels and Cutlers take on the political issues stated in this thread. :wiggle:

elsid13
03-09-2009, 05:26 PM
OK McKid was unsure of Cutler when he took the job? WTF? Why take the job then?

Requiem
03-09-2009, 05:29 PM
Um, because whether or not he likes Cutler has nothing to do with his ability to succeed as a coach in the NFL.

BroncoMan4ever
03-09-2009, 05:29 PM
he has to be here next monday anyway for the 1st camp. so if he did or didn't come in today isn't bugging me. if he doesn't report to camp, then it is time to worry, but considering he is on vacation for another few days, who cares, if it was decided to hold off on the meeting til he has to come in.

BroncoMan4ever
03-09-2009, 05:34 PM
OK McKid was unsure of Cutler when he took the job? WTF? Why take the job then?

Exactly! the main selling points and the reason Denver was such an attractive job openning was because of Jay as a pro bowl QB who has only just scratched the surface of the potential he has, and because we had an extremely patient owner willing to let his coaches do what was needed and spend the money to get his team back into contention.

Why would any coach be stupid enough to come in and decide the team would be better without the services of the main reason he supposedly took the job?

elsid13
03-09-2009, 05:34 PM
Um, because whether or not he likes Cutler has nothing to do with his ability to succeed as a coach in the NFL.

Really? A good QB make OC and HC look smart, great QB make HC look like he belongs in the HOF, and bad QB makes the entire team and coaching staff look like dumb asses.

X and O only get you so far in, it depends on the talent on the field.

Archer81
03-09-2009, 05:39 PM
Just wait for the meeting. Deep breaths, wait and see what goes down.


:Broncos:

elsid13
03-09-2009, 05:42 PM
Just wait for the meeting. Deep breaths, wait and see what goes down.


:Broncos:

i am not worried about. I think Mckid need to stop trying to be mini-cheat and Cutler needs to let it go. Both need to yell at each and get back to work.

theAPAOps5
03-09-2009, 05:45 PM
he has to be here next monday anyway for the 1st camp. so if he did or didn't come in today isn't bugging me. if he doesn't report to camp, then it is time to worry, but considering he is on vacation for another few days, who cares, if it was decided to hold off on the meeting til he has to come in.

Well he doesn't have to be here. OTA's cannot be made mandatory. But teams try to get full participation with bonuses and such. I asked in the other thread Broncojef posted the conversation about whether Schefter cited unamed sources or was just hypothesizing about Cutler and his attitude. He said it sounded more like a general discussion and no sources were named. So before we all jump off our cliffs, depending on which side you are supporting, lets wait until this meeting happens.

rastaman
03-09-2009, 05:52 PM
Um, because whether or not he likes Cutler has nothing to do with his ability to succeed as a coach in the NFL.

Neither Jay or McDaniels need to like each other......they just need to execute the offense. They already know they can never trust each other over the next 3 years. So why bother with all the Kum-by-Ya crap!

McDaniels has to prove he win as a HC. So far non of Belecheks protegee has proven they win as HC.

Jay has proven he can put up pro bowl stats and he needs to continue to do so over the next 3 years to ensure he's a much sought after come FA time.

In fact if I was McDaniels, I'd go after USC's Sanchez with the 12th pick in this years draft, so at least Sanchez will have 3 years to learn under Cutler and learn McDaniels system.

TheDave
03-09-2009, 05:53 PM
I am so burned out on all of the drama at this point...I couldn't care less anymore.

theAPAOps5
03-09-2009, 05:54 PM
I am so burned out on all of the drama at this point...I couldn't care less anymore.

Seriously they just need to snug it out.

TheDave
03-09-2009, 05:56 PM
Seriously they just need to snug it out.

Snug it out bitches... snug it out.

Kaylore
03-09-2009, 05:58 PM
I am so burned out on all of the drama at this point...I couldn't care less anymore.
Don't worry about it. We have no control so there's no point in getting bent out of shape about it.

Archer81
03-09-2009, 05:58 PM
Seriously they just need to snug it out.


http://tinyurl.com/bkyds9


:Broncos:

watermock
03-09-2009, 06:00 PM
McDummy has made this franchise a joke in 3 months.

TheDave
03-09-2009, 06:02 PM
Don't worry about it. We have no control so there's no point in getting bent out of shape about it.

In fairness Kaylore...we're fans. Our entire existance (as a fan) is getting happy or pissed about stuff we have no control over.

Cito Pelon
03-09-2009, 06:25 PM
I think if he trades Cutler, a significant percentage of the Broncos fanbase would disapprove... and if the team then ended up under .500 in the upcoming season, many would want McD fired. Winning football games is what we all want; we sometimes just disagree on the best ways of doing that.

The internet fans would disapprove. In Colorado, no. Only Colorado counts. Sorry, but that's the truth.

TheReverend
03-09-2009, 06:27 PM
The internet fans would disapprove. In Colorado, no. Only Colorado counts.

Uhhhhhhhhhh...

What?

Cito Pelon
03-09-2009, 06:31 PM
Uhhhhhhhhhh...

What?

Sorry, but that's the truth. Only Colorado counts. Brutal truth, but that's where we're at.

TheReverend
03-09-2009, 06:40 PM
Sorry, but that's the truth. Only Colorado counts. Brutal truth, but that's where we're at.

Care to expand...?

Cito Pelon
03-09-2009, 06:47 PM
Care to expand...?

I think that was clear.

UberBroncoMan
03-09-2009, 07:58 PM
Um, because whether or not he likes Cutler has nothing to do with his ability to succeed as a coach in the NFL.

But it does have to do with his ability to succeed right now as a coach of the Denver Broncos... which is exactly what he is.

Premier-Ace55
03-09-2009, 08:03 PM
I think that was clear.

Nah really elaborate

UberBroncoMan
03-09-2009, 08:04 PM
Even UberBroncoMan is now sick of talking about this situation.

Taco John
03-09-2009, 08:23 PM
I wonder how long McDaniels would be able to hold onto his job if he ended up running Cutler out of town. He'd have to win right away to shut the fans up. Otherwise, the home boos would only increase with each loss.

colonelbeef
03-09-2009, 08:24 PM
I think that was moronic.

fixed it for you.

theAPAOps5
03-09-2009, 08:36 PM
I wonder how long McDaniels would be able to hold onto his job if he ended up running Cutler out of town. He'd have to win right away to shut the fans up. Otherwise, the home boos would only increase with each loss.

Unless its Cutler asking for a trade. Then the view would be different.

NFLBRONCO
03-09-2009, 09:40 PM
In the press conf Bowlen said, we are along way for a SB team so even if he lost or traded Cutler Josh would get 3 yrs here.

After this trade Cutler talk fans are turned on McD it will be on him to win right away. Well I expect alot fans to turn on Cutler faster if he doesn't do well right away too. One he acted like a baby so long and fans saw Cassel lead team to 11 wins. I hope fans are realistic about 09 I can easily see a struggle for both a rookie HC and Cutler in a new system.

Cito Pelon
03-09-2009, 09:42 PM
Nah really elaborate

That's a joke, right?

Broncoman13
03-09-2009, 09:47 PM
Unless its Cutler asking for a trade. Then the view would be different.

No it wouldn't. I think people in general think Cutler is being a baby but that it is a reaction to a bigger issue which is McD. I'd consider going to a few games to boo him if he ran Cutler out of town without any kind of contingency plan (not name Chris Simms!).

Cito Pelon
03-09-2009, 10:16 PM
You internets fans don't count. It's nice the Broncs have a wide appeal, but Bowlen is only interested in Colorado. That's where the money comes from. Colorado was glad to see Shanny fired. Colorado doesn't care if Cutler disappears. The object is to win AFC Titles, not play mamby-pamby games with prima donnas. Denver isn't some drama franchise, Denver hunts AFC titles. If Cutler isn't on board with that, then he can kiss our ass here in Colorado.

Sassy
03-09-2009, 10:18 PM
You internets fans don't count. It's nice the Broncs have a wide appeal, but Bowlen is only interested in Colorado. That's where the money comes from. Colorado was glad to see Shanny fired. Colorado doesn't care if Cutler disappears. The object is to win AFC Titles, not play mamby-pamby games with prima donnas. Denver isn't some drama franchise, Denver hunts AFC titles. If Cutler isn't on board with that, then he can kiss our ass here in Colorado.

So fans that come for games outside of Colorado don't count???

SoCalBronco
03-09-2009, 10:21 PM
Good.

There's nothing to talk about. The only thing left for Jay to do is report at the start of OTA's and start working in the OTA camps. If they'd like to talk to him, they can wait a week till the start of OTAs. Since he already knows what they are going to say, it seems like nothing more than for public consumption. Let him enjoy his short vacation until the 16th.

GreatBronco16
03-09-2009, 10:22 PM
Here we go with the 'Real Fan' debate again.

Broncojef
03-09-2009, 10:35 PM
Good.

There's nothing to talk about. The only thing left for Jay to do is report at the start of OTA's and start working in the OTA camps. If they'd like to talk to him, they can wait a week till the start of OTAs. Since he already knows what they are going to say, it seems like nothing more than for public consumption. Let him enjoy his short vacation until the 16th.

The Broncos and Jay have a serious rift between them, It seems as if though the Broncos have reached out to Jay and he continually acts the fool. The Broncos are remaining quiet in the press because they'd like to talk to Jay about remaining their Quarterback. In the end if he continually will not talk to them he'll be out, period. Its McDaniel's team like it or not and Jay needs to stop acting the fool. Any of us have a serious falling out at work with upper management right or wrong we have to look each other in the eyes and have an agreement going forward or we'll get fired, just like Jay will. Listening to Schefter today and to Dave Logan it sounds like there is more going on behind the scenes and that Jay has remained obstinent in either wanting out of Denver or just not talking, either way he needs to change or he'll be traded (and rightly so) IMO.

ZONA
03-09-2009, 10:37 PM
Neither Jay or McDaniels need to like each other......they just need to execute the offense. They already know they can never trust each other over the next 3 years. So why bother with all the Kum-by-Ya crap!

McDaniels has to prove he win as a HC. So far non of Belecheks protegee has proven they win as HC.

Jay has proven he can put up pro bowl stats and he needs to continue to do so over the next 3 years to ensure he's a much sought after come FA time.

In fact if I was McDaniels, I'd go after USC's Sanchez with the 12th pick in this years draft, so at least Sanchez will have 3 years to learn under Cutler and learn McDaniels system.

Dude, stick with the political spewing, it's obvious you would make a lousy GM if you think the Broncos should take a QB at #12 in this years draft. Hilarious!

Cito Pelon
03-09-2009, 10:42 PM
So fans that come for games outside of Colorado don't count???

Not much, with all due respect to you.

SoCalBronco
03-09-2009, 10:42 PM
The Broncos and Jay have a serious rift between them, It seems as if though the Broncos have reached out to Jay and he continually acts the fool.

How are they reaching out to him? By proposing a meeting? How is that reaching out to him. How does letting him sit through a circle jerk homer explanation constitute reaching out to him? What is the benefit in that. He doesn't believe them. He flat out doesn't believe it. Why would repeating it to his face making him believe it? What does a meeting do for him? He realizes they have to work together. They don't have to like each other. That is true with or without a meeting.

The Broncos are remaining quiet in the press because they'd like to talk to Jay about remaining their Quarterback.

Really? They're remaining quiet in the press? Then why did they just smear him last week by leaking information? Or don't you believe that it was them. Do you think it was Bob's Mom? Do you think it was someone unconnected with the situation? Do you think it was a mere coincidence it got out a day after he cancelled the first meeting?

In the end if he continually will not talk to them he'll be out, period.
He doesn't need to do anything except for work hard. So long as he works hard thats all thats important. Their feelings arent important.

Its McDaniel's team like it or not and Jay needs to stop acting the fool.

When McDaniels grows up and admits he lied then they can move on. They need to stop pretending that they did nothing wrong in all of this.
Any of us have a serious falling out at work with upper management right or wrong we have to look each other in the eyes and have an agreement going forward or we'll get fired

He's already said he'll work with them and that he will play hard for his teammates. What else do you want? They don't like him and he doesn't like them. Why are you pushing for some kind of photo op that doesnt reflect reality?

Listening to Schefter today and to Dave Logan it sounds like there is more going on behind the scenes and that Jay has remained obstinent in either wanting out of Denver or just not talking, either way he needs to change or he'll be traded (and rightly so) IMO.

Well, McDaniels certainly can trade him if he wants, but he'll have to analyze whether the consequences would warrant that. If he'd like to permanently alienate a large part of the fan base and make it harder for himself to win, then he has the right to confirm his lack of intelligence.

Broncojef
03-09-2009, 10:46 PM
Neither Jay or McDaniels need to like each other......they just need to execute the offense. They already know they can never trust each other over the next 3 years. So why bother with all the Kum-by-Ya crap!

McDaniels has to prove he win as a HC. So far non of Belecheks protegee has proven they win as HC.

Jay has proven he can put up pro bowl stats and he needs to continue to do so over the next 3 years to ensure he's a much sought after come FA time.

In fact if I was McDaniels, I'd go after USC's Sanchez with the 12th pick in this years draft, so at least Sanchez will have 3 years to learn under Cutler and learn McDaniels system.


If Jay and McDaniels don't iron things out in the next few weeks and have a good relationship then he'll be gone. They won't work together for the next 3 years hating each other, the Broncos will trade him away now or next year while his value is high and move forward.

Cito Pelon
03-09-2009, 10:53 PM
The Broncos and Jay have a serious rift between them, It seems as if though the Broncos have reached out to Jay and he continually acts the fool. The Broncos are remaining quiet in the press because they'd like to talk to Jay about remaining their Quarterback. In the end if he continually will not talk to them he'll be out, period. Its McDaniel's team like it or not and Jay needs to stop acting the fool. Any of us have a serious falling out at work with upper management right or wrong we have to look each other in the eyes and have an agreement going forward or we'll get fired, just like Jay will. Listening to Schefter today and to Dave Logan it sounds like there is more going on behind the scenes and that Jay has remained obstinent in either wanting out of Denver or just not talking, either way he needs to change or he'll be traded (and rightly so) IMO.

If the sissy doesn't want to play in Denver then good riddance. I've played on many a team where I didn't get along with the coaches, but the joy of winning is the supreme goal. Just the joy of starting and winning is the supreme goal. If Jay is more interested in politics than the joy from competing and winning, then good riddance. Denver doesn't need a QB with a loser attitude.

Broncojef
03-09-2009, 10:55 PM
Well, McDaniels certainly can trade him if he wants, but he'll have to analyze whether the consequences would warrant that. If he'd like to permanently alienate a large part of the fan base and make it harder for himself to win, then he has the right to confirm his lack of intelligence.

Sorry to make you rant so late at night, you have your views and I have mine. I don't think the Broncos have anything to apologize about they fielded a call for a potential huge trade to benefit the Broncos and Jay had a hissy fit. He can act the fool as long as he wants, ignore meetings and not return phone calls for only so long until the management says "know what, yeah he has a great arm blah, blah, blah but he works for us and screw that kid we're going forward, find the best value you can for him and lets move on." Personally I could care less, Cutler has never done anything remarkable as the Quarterback and as our leader to put up with this kind of drama. And if its an I'll play football for you but I still hate you kind of BS, again like some little kid, then hit the road as well.

Archer81
03-09-2009, 10:58 PM
It will be fine I think. They will meet, realize it was a stupid thing to get mad at eachother about and the happy couple will lead us to many, many wins.


:Broncos:

Broncojef
03-09-2009, 11:05 PM
It will be fine I think. They will meet, realize it was a stupid thing to get mad at eachother about and the happy couple will lead us to many, many wins.


:Broncos:

Hope So :thumbs: Love the Avatar :wave:

Archer81
03-09-2009, 11:09 PM
Hope So :thumbs: Love the Avatar :wave:


:) Thanks. Jay and Josh are just having a lil spat. It will be fine when camp starts and everyone gets to work together.


:Broncos:

Taco John
03-09-2009, 11:09 PM
Unless its Cutler asking for a trade. Then the view would be different.

Perhaps, but I don't think so. I think the fan base is split on that, and even if Cutler asked for a trade, there'd be a large contingent of fans that would pin the blame on McDaniels for chasing him out of town. And at this point, it's pretty clear that for the most part, the media has put the blame on McDaniels and crew, and that probably won't change by Jay asking for a trade. There's blood in the water, and that's what the media wants. They'd take every opportunity they could to pick at the corpse, especially if Jay continued to have success wherever he goes. Every Cutler win would be thrown in the faces of the fans, every spectacular moment - and if we weren't winning ourselves when it happened, McDaniels would be crucified during home games.

BroncoMan4ever
03-10-2009, 12:11 AM
http://tinyurl.com/bkyds9


:Broncos:

that pic perfectly shows the situation. McDaniels came in loving Cutler and then behind the scenes out of the picture he tore out his heart.

JJJ
03-10-2009, 01:00 AM
He'd make a good backup for Rivers. We will give you a fourth for him.

penguintheory
03-10-2009, 01:55 AM
Guys, I just love the status quo!

Bronco Yoda
03-10-2009, 02:10 AM
Let's hope the locker room doesn't become as fragmented and split as the Mane has become over this situation.

Williams
03-10-2009, 05:11 AM
He'd make a good backup for Rivers. We will give you a fourth for him.

No team could function with that much crying at one position.

We'll give you your choice of Andre Hall or Selvin Young for that 4th though... I hear LT is old and broken now. Whadayasay?

theAPAOps5
03-10-2009, 06:53 AM
that pic perfectly shows the situation. McDaniels came in loving Cutler and then behind the scenes out of the picture he tore out his heart.

Admit it you watch soap operas. Because my wife does and only people who watch them can type what you just typed. :)

garandman
03-10-2009, 07:12 PM
I think someone earlier said that alot was going on behind the scenes, which I think it is. Cutler has had time to think this thru, if he is still so upset he want meet with MCd or Bowlen then this really if going to fall on him..

I figure we have 2 scenarios that can play out:

Best case: Jay shows up to OTA's works out with the team, meets face to face with McD and atleast has an understanding, goes to camp and flourishes under McD's offense. At this point they see that the other guy isn't as bad as advertised and become close (which I think can still happen if we win a lot of games). And this is all history...

Worst Case: Jay doesnt show up to OTA's, demands to be cut or traded thru his agent and doesnt bother talking to Bowlen or McD. Get's traded to Detroit and becomes this biggest &^$# in the NFL. Blows up in Detroit (TO style) and is out of the game in 2 years because he became Ryan Leaf...

Lets hope option 1 happens!

Taco John
03-10-2009, 07:17 PM
Let's hope the locker room doesn't become as fragmented and split as the Mane has become over this situation.



It will. And it won't get better if we trade Jay either. McDaniels has introduced a cancer in our locker room that will only be cured by winning.