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SureShot
03-21-2009, 12:30 PM
Good call SurShot. Up 41 to 26 on UCLA right now :P

No kidding.Ha!

I guess I shouldn't complain I have Nova in the sweet 16.

Rock Chalk
03-21-2009, 12:44 PM
Nova in the final four baby. :strong:

I think I got them there. I cant remember which bracket is which to be honest with you. I like Nova unless they face Texas. If Texas beats Duke Id take Texas over Nova in hindsight since UT already beat Nova AT Nova.

SureShot
03-21-2009, 12:49 PM
I think I got them there. I cant remember which bracket is which to be honest with you. I like Nova unless they face Texas. If Texas beats Duke Id take Texas over Nova in hindsight since UT already beat Nova AT Nova.

Yep you do. I don't know why I picked Duke I hate Duke.

Northman
03-21-2009, 01:15 PM
Yep you do. I don't know why I picked Duke I hate Duke.

Nothing makes me happier than to watch Duke lose. ;D

Northman
03-21-2009, 08:26 PM
Uh oh, Duke might go down. WKU is also coming back in their game.

Rock Chalk
03-22-2009, 08:21 PM
Well, its been mostly chalk. Purdue at a 5 seed and Arizona as a 12 seed are all thats left that "shouldnt" be in teh Sweet 16.

So Im pulling for KU, Zona, Purdue and Mizzou (yes I said it, dont repeat it or I might shoot you in the face) this next round.

FADERPROOF
03-22-2009, 08:45 PM
Well, its been mostly chalk. Purdue at a 5 seed and Arizona as a 12 seed are all thats left that "shouldnt" be in teh Sweet 16.

So Im pulling for KU, Zona, Purdue and Mizzou (yes I said it, dont repeat it or I might shoot you in the face) this next round.

Knocking everyone out so KU has the easiest road to the championship game?

DenverBrit
03-25-2009, 03:22 PM
For all the Blake Griffin fans. :thumbs:


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Rock Chalk
03-25-2009, 03:51 PM
Knocking everyone out so KU has the easiest road to the championship game?

Not really. Zona beat KU earlier in the year and they matchup better against us than Louisville does. I just like to root for dogs.

UConn is now on the block for NCAA Violations and while it is doubtful anything happens to this years team, they have a high probability of landing themselves on post-season probation after this year and Im beginning to suspect Calhoun will "step down" for "health reasons". I am not a fan of UConn.

The only reason Im rooting for Mizzou is because they are Big XII. I dont see Memphis as a legitimate threat.

Which still leaves OU, UNC, Duke, Nova all of which can either beat KU or give them a tough matchup so its not like I rooting for the schlubs to advance to amke it easy on KU.

I think MSU is going to be our toughest game on route to our second straight title :)

SureShot
03-26-2009, 08:58 PM
Yep you do. I don't know why I picked Duke I hate Duke.

Help! I'm rooting for Duke!:thumbsdow

Rock Chalk
03-26-2009, 09:19 PM
"I dont see Memphis as a legitimate threat"

And Memphis proceeds to get their asses kicked. Mizzou is DESTROYING Memphis. With 15:42 left in the game, Mizzou is up 64 to 42.

Where's chickennob? I told you dude. Memphis is overrated. CUSA really is that bad.

SureShot
03-26-2009, 09:20 PM
Boy I'm glad Memphis isn't in my Final Four.

Rock Chalk
03-26-2009, 09:22 PM
Boy I'm glad Memphis isn't in my Final Four.

Boy Im glad I picked this game.

Of course as soon as I post Memphis wants to go on a little run. They cut it to 16.

SureShot
03-26-2009, 09:50 PM
Boy Im glad I picked this game.

Of course as soon as I post Memphis wants to go on a little run. They cut it to 16.

I should just keep my mouth shut.

Rock Chalk
03-26-2009, 09:54 PM
Gotta hand it to Memphis for not giving up in this after being down 24. It helped that Carroll was on the bench so much with foul trouble.

I didnt expect Mizzou to be so far ahead at any point but how this is shaping up towards the end is how I figured the game would be the whole time.

Rock Chalk
03-26-2009, 10:01 PM
Awesome, 6 point game with just over 2 minutes to go.

At least it turned out to be a good game unlike the Nova/Duke game.

Ooh, 2:04 left, Memphis down by... 8. Last year in teh Title game, 2:12 left KU down by 9. KU won. Can Memphis?

Rock Chalk
03-26-2009, 10:04 PM
Ehh,, Taggart just fouled out. Down by 8 still with only 1:30 to go and Mizzou shooting freethrows.

Looks like Memphis ran out of gas and couldnt complete the comeback. Helluva game by them though.

Rock Chalk
03-26-2009, 10:08 PM
Dude, I just lost all respect for Taggart. Crying? Are you kidding me? If you were a Senior I could understand, but you arent going to the NBA you got another year and another shot. Stop crying you pussy.

SureShot
03-26-2009, 10:11 PM
**** you Duke

Rock Chalk
03-26-2009, 10:18 PM
Apparently Duke didnt pay the refs enough this game :)

SureShot
03-26-2009, 10:19 PM
Apparently Duke didnt pay the refs enough this game :)

Times are tough right now.

Rock Chalk
03-26-2009, 10:31 PM
The only drawback to duke losing is now I have to continue to listen to how great the Big Least is.

mhgaffney
03-26-2009, 10:45 PM
The BIG EAST is cleaning up.

I saw part of the UConn Purdue game.

UConn wasn't even challenged. It was UConn all the way. I was very impressed with their shooting, ball handling, shot blocking and - yes -- their fast break.

Awesome.

ZachKC
03-26-2009, 11:00 PM
Mizzou baby.

http://www.ucpl.lib.mo.us/childrens/Clips/mizzou.jpg

Hercules Rockefeller
03-27-2009, 01:56 PM
Gillespie is out at UK (Thank God)

Billy D to take his place?

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/032709source_donovan_leaving_UCF

SureShot
03-27-2009, 03:39 PM
Gillespie is out at UK (Thank God)

Billy D to take his place?

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/032709source_donovan_leaving_UCF

Strange that Gillespie on got two years. Was he not recruiting well?

lex
03-27-2009, 03:40 PM
Strange that Gillespie on got two years. Was he not recruiting well?


He wasnt much of a schmoozer. Apparently he rubbed people the wrong way and wasnt winning enough to make people look past his shortcomings with the political aspects of the job.

Hercules Rockefeller
03-27-2009, 04:07 PM
Strange that Gillespie on got two years. Was he not recruiting well?

Recruited better than Tubby, but he wasn't doing all the off-the-court stuff that is required of the basektball coach.

That Fox station has retracted their report that Donovan is going to Lexington.

SureShot
03-27-2009, 04:13 PM
Recruited better than Tubby, but he wasn't doing all the off-the-court stuff that is required of the basektball coach.

That Fox station has retracted their report that Donovan is going to Lexington.

Can we get him at CU?^5

SureShot
03-27-2009, 06:15 PM
If OU wasn't turning the ball over neither of these game would be close.

OBF1
03-27-2009, 06:52 PM
they are no longer close....blow out city

SureShot
03-27-2009, 07:12 PM
My finalists are looking good.

SureShot
03-27-2009, 07:41 PM
Go Ku!

Northman
03-27-2009, 07:59 PM
My Bracket is toast as of last night. Memphis going down screwed me there. But Villanova is still in it so i will get some points.

worm
03-27-2009, 08:08 PM
Memphis took me out.

Alec can still come back and win this.

SureShot
03-27-2009, 08:29 PM
Memphis took me out.

Alec can still come back and win this.

I would think he would rather have Kansas win this game.

GreatBronco16
03-27-2009, 09:54 PM
I would think he would rather have Kansas win this game.

Too bad it didn't happen though. Man they blew that one.

SouthStndJunkie
03-27-2009, 09:58 PM
Big Ten rules!

lex
03-27-2009, 10:22 PM
Too bad it didn't happen though. Man they blew that one.

Yeah, its amazing that they got as far as they did with guys like Morningstar too afraid to shoot. Too many guys were on the floor just taking up space.

GSRelyea
03-28-2009, 06:24 AM
Those Tarheels looked pretty damn good, OU is going to get a beat down tomorrow.

TheChamp24
03-28-2009, 02:32 PM
Those Tarheels looked pretty damn good, OU is going to get a beat down tomorrow.

Uh, yeah right. Blake Griffin is going to make Tyler Hansborough his little bitch.

Northman
03-28-2009, 02:36 PM
Gutsy win by the Maryland Women today. Marissa Coleman was lighting it up. Great game and comeback.

GSRelyea
03-28-2009, 03:00 PM
Uh, yeah right. Blake Griffin is going to make Tyler Hansborough his little b****.

I will take that action, what line would you like to use? I normally use scoresandoods.com, name your price....

SureShot
03-28-2009, 03:18 PM
I will take that action, what line would you like to use? I normally use scoresandoods.com, name your price....

I want some of that action. Whats the line?

Rock Chalk
03-28-2009, 05:16 PM
I would think he would rather have Kansas win this game.

Inexperience from everyone not named Collins or Aldrich killed us last night.

Game went about like I thought, was hoping we could pull it off but season as far as I am concerned was great. We got to the Sweet 16 when I was just hoping we could make the tournament. Had we won it would have really just been gravy as no one expected that.

That being said, Collins and Aldrich have both stated they are coming back. Both probably will as Aldrich is slotted as a Lottery pick in 2010 and a late first right now and Collins is slotted as a mid-to-late first in 2010 and an early second now.

Add in we already signed Elijah Johson and Thomas Robinson and are the front runner for Lance "Born Ready" Stephenson. Looks like KU is going to be a serious favorite for the national title next year. Assuming ESPiN can take their time to report on anyone but the Big East.

MSU played a really good, patient game last night and they deserved to win. They beat them down the stretch even though KU controlled the game for 38 minutes. Good luck Sparty, beat the snot out of that overrated Louisville team.

Doggcow
03-28-2009, 05:16 PM
Wow Pitt is just getting brutalized by Nova. They refuse to call any reach ins or fouls, this retarded.

Rock Chalk
03-28-2009, 05:17 PM
Those Tarheels looked pretty damn good, OU is going to get a beat down tomorrow.

LOL

Dude UNC did look good...against GONZAGA.

OU looked damn near unstoppable against a MUCH better Cuse team.

OU will win if they get a performance from Crocker like they did yesterday. Blake > anyone on UNC's team. Hans will basically be shut down of that Im certain however UNC is overall a more talented team so OU is going to need other guys to step up.

I see no beat down though. UNC may win but its not going to be a beat down.

SureShot
03-28-2009, 05:18 PM
Good luck Sparty, beat the snot out of that overrated Louisville team.

I hope not that would be very bad for my bracket.

Doggcow
03-28-2009, 05:20 PM
LOL

Dude UNC did look good...against GONZAGA.

OU looked damn near unstoppable against a MUCH better Cuse team.

OU will win if they get a performance from Crocker like they did yesterday. Blake > anyone on UNC's team. Hans will basically be shut down of that Im certain however UNC is overall a more talented team so OU is going to need other guys to step up.

I see no beat down though. UNC may win but its not going to be a beat down.

Guards win tournaments, Ty Lawson is superior. I hate UNC, but I dont think OU will win.

Northman
03-28-2009, 05:24 PM
Come on NOVA!

Rock Chalk
03-28-2009, 05:29 PM
Guards win tournaments, Ty Lawson is superior. I hate UNC, but I dont think OU will win.

Guards do win tournaments, and OU has 3 decent guards and one really fantastic freshman among them. Lawson is superior but, as shown last night, a superior guard doesnt always win. Collins was the best player on the court against MSU and he couldnt will the team to win.

TEAMS win tournament games. Defense, and guard play and a strong inside presence. OU needs more out of its guards to win as I SAID, but Griffin is good enough that they dont need an all star guard to win. Just competent guards and that they have.

Northman
03-28-2009, 05:33 PM
Carolina is good but not that good. Its pretty wide open this year.

TheChamp24
03-28-2009, 06:02 PM
Warren is a damn good guard for a freshman, Johnson is solid and Crocker is decent and can get hot.
Warren is the only one that shows promise of being a star, but the other guys are no scrubs to say the least.
Should be a great matchup tomorrow, very close game.

epicSocialism4tw
03-28-2009, 06:07 PM
Warren is a damn good guard for a freshman, Johnson is solid and Crocker is decent and can get hot.
Warren is the only one that shows promise of being a star, but the other guys are no scrubs to say the least.
Should be a great matchup tomorrow, very close game.

None of them have to be stars when Blake Griffin is under the basket.

Griffin is an unbelievable player in every aspect of the game (except for at the free throw line and behind the arc). Dude is the best player to come through Oklahoma for sure...maybe the best to come through the NCAA since Durant.

Griffin is something that Carolina hasnt and wont see otherwise. Carolina has alot, and will probably beat Oklahoma, but Griffin will still get whatever he wants. If the Oklahoma guards play well, OU will run UNC out of the building...it wont be close.

Northman
03-28-2009, 07:44 PM
Great win by Nova. Next up OU/UNC

phillybroncosnut
03-28-2009, 07:47 PM
Hell yeah!!!! Go NOVA!!! I want Carolina. We owe them paybacks for the refs robbing us 3 years ago. Can't wait to go on NOVA's campus for the Final Four!

GO NOVA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TheChamp24
03-28-2009, 08:47 PM
Holy ****, can you please resize your sig pic phillybroncosnut?

phillybroncosnut
03-29-2009, 02:40 AM
Holy ****, can you please resize your sig pic phillybroncosnut?


Nope... Sorry. First, Playoff hockey is coming. second... I have no idea how to do it. Third, the mods can delete it if need be. Sorry bro. GO NOVA!!!!!

GSRelyea
03-29-2009, 08:12 AM
LOL

Dude UNC did look good...against GONZAGA.

OU looked damn near unstoppable against a MUCH better Cuse team.

OU will win if they get a performance from Crocker like they did yesterday. Blake > anyone on UNC's team. Hans will basically be shut down of that Im certain however UNC is overall a more talented team so OU is going to need other guys to step up.

I see no beat down though. UNC may win but its not going to be a beat down.

Blake is the best in the country and UNC will get him into foul trouble, UNC has 4 bodies to throw at him. No other player on OU would start for UNC- Lawson & Ellington is the best back court in the country. You have to get off that big 12 wagon....

A MUCH better cuse team???? They had a nice run but 2 months ago they were on the bubble. Cuse is who we thought they were, an average team.

orange crusher
03-29-2009, 04:07 PM
Carolina is good but not that good. Its pretty wide open this year.

With Lawson, they are that good.

TheChamp24
03-29-2009, 04:11 PM
If OU could hit some damn threes this sucker would be tied. OU isn't getting the other guys to step up and its hurting them. If they can find the stroke in the 2nd half they can win.

TheChamp24
03-29-2009, 04:33 PM
Alright, nobody besides Griffin can score right now for OU. They are done. What are they, 0-12 from 3 point range? Geez. Just hitting 2 would make this a more reasonable game.
OU needed help from Crocker, Johnson and Warren to be able to make those shots and they just aren't. They had a great run though.

SouthStndJunkie
03-29-2009, 04:40 PM
Nice to see Michigan State give the Big Ten some representation in the Final Four.

SouthStndJunkie
03-29-2009, 04:42 PM
I think UConn is the only team with a legitimate shot at beating Carolina.

All it takes is one off game to lose....

That said, NC is looking pretty tough.

FADERPROOF
03-29-2009, 08:12 PM
LOL

Dude UNC did look good...against GONZAGA.

OU looked damn near unstoppable against a MUCH better Cuse team.

OU will win if they get a performance from Crocker like they did yesterday. Blake > anyone on UNC's team. Hans will basically be shut down of that Im certain however UNC is overall a more talented team so OU is going to need other guys to step up.

I see no beat down though. UNC may win but its not going to be a beat down.

Too far in the forest to see the trees, Big 12 country had you blinded.

oubronco
03-29-2009, 08:17 PM
Too far in the forest to see the trees, Big 12 country had you blinded.

what he said wasn't off if anyone could've gotten hot behind the three pt line OU would've had a legitimate chance to win

DenverBrit
03-29-2009, 08:20 PM
Too far in the forest to see the trees, Big 12 country had you blinded.

Rock was right.

Crocker had to play like he did against Syracuse for OU to win.
But he disappeared and the team not making perimeter shots, meant OU had no chance.

Griffin couldn't do it all alone.

Rock Chalk
03-29-2009, 08:55 PM
Too far in the forest to see the trees, Big 12 country had you blinded.

Really? What part of my post was blinding? The part where I said Crocker and Johnson and Warren would have to have good games for OU to win? OU didnt win and guess what, those three were completely invisible in the game. UNC doubled Blake (and he still got his thus further proving he is better than anyone else in the country).

OU needed their team to step up for them to win, like I said.

I wasnt blinded by anything. If anything I called that game exactly.

Rock Chalk
03-29-2009, 09:04 PM
Blake is the best in the country and UNC will get him into foul trouble, UNC has 4 bodies to throw at him. No other player on OU would start for UNC- Lawson & Ellington is the best back court in the country. You have to get off that big 12 wagon....

A MUCH better cuse team???? They had a nice run but 2 months ago they were on the bubble. Cuse is who we thought they were, an average team.

You are right, no one from OU would start over UNCs starters. Warren would next year though. As a freshman he is damn near a starter on UNCs team.

I never said anyting bad about Lawson or Ellington. In fact I think Lawson is the best pure PG in the country.

Syracuse IS much better than Gonzaga and had Crocker or Warren or Johnson been able to play like Crocker did against Syracuse, that UNC OU game would have been a great game. UNC may have still won but it would have been much closer. When I stopped watching, OU was 0-13 from the 3pt line. Crocker was 6-11 from 3 against Cuse. Its not like UNC had smothering defense. OU had open looks they just couldnt hit anything.

I also never said UNC wasnt a great team, more imporantly I never homered up on the Big XII. I picked OU to win it all because I figured Warren and Crocker would have been able to contribute more than they did, particularly against UNCs notoriously inconsistent defense.

Now, one thing I was right on and for all you future bracketeers, was Louisville. If a team loses by 20+ points to anyone at any point in the season, make sure you have that team going out before the final four. No team in the history of the 65 team tournament that has lost by such a large margin at any point in the season has made the final four. Louisville was the most overrated team in teh Big East this year. They lucked out with their really easy big East schedule and didnt have a challenge in teh Big East Tournament save for Cuse which had just played essentially 3 basketball games in 2 days and were out of gas.

Im still good in my money league. I got UCOnn winning it all and 3 of the 4 final four picks in there and really only one contender who has UNC. That one looks like it might come down to the final game.

Im pretty done in the OM Bracket though. By not homering up this year for the first time since its inception, I actually was in it a lot longer than normal :)

TonyR
03-30-2009, 06:46 AM
If a team loses by 20+ points to anyone at any point in the season, make sure you have that team going out before the final four. No team in the history of the 65 team tournament that has lost by such a large margin at any point in the season has made the final four.

Really? Because Michigan State lost to North Carolina 98-63 and Villanova lost to WVU 93-72 this year and they're both in the Final Four...

Doggcow
03-30-2009, 09:32 AM
Guards do win tournaments, and OU has 3 decent guards and one really fantastic freshman among them. Lawson is superior but, as shown last night, a superior guard doesnt always win. Collins was the best player on the court against MSU and he couldnt will the team to win.

TEAMS win tournament games. Defense, and guard play and a strong inside presence. OU needs more out of its guards to win as I SAID, but Griffin is good enough that they dont need an all star guard to win. Just competent guards and that they have.

:)

Peoples Champ
03-30-2009, 10:16 AM
Really? Because Michigan State lost to North Carolina 98-63 and Villanova lost to WVU 93-72 this year and they're both in the Final Four...



Great point. Dont count anyone out of the Final 4.

oubronco
03-30-2009, 11:02 AM
will Calipari take the Kentucky gig? I think he's got it pretty good at Memphis

Rock Chalk
03-30-2009, 02:00 PM
Really? Because Michigan State lost to North Carolina 98-63 and Villanova lost to WVU 93-72 this year and they're both in the Final Four...

I meant 30+ not 20+, that was a typo on my part, my bad. Concerning MSU's 35 point loss, they also werent at full health when that loss occurred. Fully healthy, MSU probably still loses that game but its within 20. MSU is now fully healthy, and I fully expect them to play UConn tough but probably lose.

MSU also is the first team to do it but there is that caveat, they werent fully healthy when it happened. Louisville sucks.

chickennob2
03-30-2009, 03:56 PM
will Calipari take the Kentucky gig? I think he's got it pretty good at Memphis

John Calipari, what do you want?

I mean really, John. You're in a city of a million people where you are the number 1 sports figure. Unquestionably. You play in front of sold out crowds in an NBA arena every night. You're virtually guaranteed 30 wins and a tournament bid (likely a 1 or 2 seed) every year. You obviously are able to bring in elite talent, and could bring in the best recruiting class in college basketball history (suck it fab 5) if John Wall comes. You are obviously able to compete for a title. And perhaps most importantly, you are in a city with much much lower expectations. Do you remember the huge crowds for your NIT championship parade? Do you think people show up for NIT championship parades in Kentucky? No. If you win the NIT, your job is on the line. You have a rash of injuries that leads to a 19-12 season? You're fired. Is that really what you want, John?

If you go, I really can't wait to see you unemployed in 3 years, just trying to scratch your way back to the top at some A-10 school. How does the Big Sky conference sound to you, John?

I can't understand why he would leave. Does the guy who has made a career of out of being the outsider who crashes the big boys' party really need the acceptance of the basketball blue bloods. You win a title at Kentucky, you get in line. There is nothing you can do as a coach at Kentucky that would ever put you ahead of the Adolph Rupp's of the world. You can become part of the legend, but the best you can hope for is to be part of the conversation. You take Memphis to a national title or two, you make this program a powerhouse, and you are the most beloved sports figure the city has ever seen. A city of a million people who are unquestionably devoted fans. Your kids are in school here. Your life is here. You have the best job in the world. Are you really going to trade that because another school has a few more banners hanging from the rafters?


John, you discovered the hard way that the NBA wasn't for you. Do you need to find out the same about coaching at a major program? You're the lovable, successful outsider, the rebel with a cause. You've found your niche. Do you really want to throw that away?

FADERPROOF
03-30-2009, 08:08 PM
Really? What part of my post was blinding? The part where I said Crocker and Johnson and Warren would have to have good games for OU to win? OU didnt win and guess what, those three were completely invisible in the game. UNC doubled Blake (and he still got his thus further proving he is better than anyone else in the country).

OU needed their team to step up for them to win, like I said.

I wasnt blinded by anything. If anything I called that game exactly.

That's asking a lot considering Griffin hasn't had that consistent help all season.

If they all stepped up then Oklahoma would be in the game a probably keep it pretty close, but if they play normal Oklahoma ball then most saw it as a blowout waiting to happen.

And give UNC credit, all 11 of Blake Griffin's 1st half points came with Tyler Hansbrough on the bench.

FADERPROOF
03-30-2009, 08:16 PM
John Calipari, what do you want?

I mean really, John. You're in a city of a million people where you are the number 1 sports figure. Unquestionably. You play in front of sold out crowds in an NBA arena every night. You're virtually guaranteed 30 wins and a tournament bid (likely a 1 or 2 seed) every year. You obviously are able to bring in elite talent, and could bring in the best recruiting class in college basketball history (suck it fab 5) if John Wall comes. You are obviously able to compete for a title. And perhaps most importantly, you are in a city with much much lower expectations. Do you remember the huge crowds for your NIT championship parade? Do you think people show up for NIT championship parades in Kentucky? No. If you win the NIT, your job is on the line. You have a rash of injuries that leads to a 19-12 season? You're fired. Is that really what you want, John?

If you go, I really can't wait to see you unemployed in 3 years, just trying to scratch your way back to the top at some A-10 school. How does the Big Sky conference sound to you, John?

I can't understand why he would leave. Does the guy who has made a career of out of being the outsider who crashes the big boys' party really need the acceptance of the basketball blue bloods. You win a title at Kentucky, you get in line. There is nothing you can do as a coach at Kentucky that would ever put you ahead of the Adolph Rupp's of the world. You can become part of the legend, but the best you can hope for is to be part of the conversation. You take Memphis to a national title or two, you make this program a powerhouse, and you are the most beloved sports figure the city has ever seen. A city of a million people who are unquestionably devoted fans. Your kids are in school here. Your life is here. You have the best job in the world. Are you really going to trade that because another school has a few more banners hanging from the rafters?


John, you discovered the hard way that the NBA wasn't for you. Do you need to find out the same about coaching at a major program? You're the lovable, successful outsider, the rebel with a cause. You've found your niche. Do you really want to throw that away?

First off, Calipari has 3 of the top 6 High School seniors verballing to Memphis next year, and they have until mid-April to switch so Calipari could bring them to Kentucky with him. Also look how well he has recruited everywhere over the years, now take that and times his resources by 10 and you have what he could be bringing in to Kentucky.

UCLA, Kentucky, and North Carolina are the 3 top coaching positions in the country(in any order, would vary person to person) and that is the Everest right there for most coaches. Add in that he has to claw and scratch for Memphis to gain any kind of national respect, hell the team won 31 games this year and couldn't muster a 1 seed.

It's time to step up with the big boys, no need to parare the team's accomplishments in the media, and no more beating up teams in your conference like Marshall, Tulane, and Rice.

Oh and this 8 year 35 million dollar deal might play a role in it as well.

TexanBob
03-30-2009, 08:55 PM
Then again, Billy Gillispie was treated like a god in College Station. Whatever happened to him??

TheChamp24
03-30-2009, 09:44 PM
That's asking a lot considering Griffin hasn't had that consistent help all season.

If they all stepped up then Oklahoma would be in the game a probably keep it pretty close, but if they play normal Oklahoma ball then most saw it as a blowout waiting to happen.

And give UNC credit, all 11 of Blake Griffin's 1st half points came with Tyler Hansbrough on the bench.

Hansbrough only played like 9 minutes in that first half or something.
Plus, Griffin flat out dominated in the 2nd half. He was a freakin monster. He is going to be amazing in the NBA.

OU finished 2-19 I think from 3 point range. If they go 30%, 6-19, they have a tie game there at the end.

epicSocialism4tw
03-30-2009, 09:53 PM
Hansbrough only played like 9 minutes in that first half or something.
Plus, Griffin flat out dominated in the 2nd half. He was a freakin monster. He is going to be amazing in the NBA.

OU finished 2-19 I think from 3 point range. If they go 30%, 6-19, they have a tie game there at the end.

Yeah...Hansborough isnt in Blake's league. Where Hansborough gets his points off of dumps into the post by guards who create, Blake was the entire Oklahoma offense.

Its not fair to Hansborough to compare him to Blake. It wouldnt even be fair to Hansborough to compare him to Blair from Pitt.

Hansborough is an energy guy off of the bench in the NBA...Blake is a superstar-level talent.

FADERPROOF
03-31-2009, 07:47 PM
Hansbrough only played like 9 minutes in that first half or something.
Plus, Griffin flat out dominated in the 2nd half. He was a freakin monster. He is going to be amazing in the NBA.

OU finished 2-19 I think from 3 point range. If they go 30%, 6-19, they have a tie game there at the end.

You mean that if they shoot 30%, 6-19, North Carolina actually has to play the last 12 minutes of that game.

GSRelyea
04-01-2009, 11:45 AM
Hansbrough only played like 9 minutes in that first half or something.
Plus, Griffin flat out dominated in the 2nd half. He was a freakin monster. He is going to be amazing in the NBA.

OU finished 2-19 I think from 3 point range. If they go 30%, 6-19, they have a tie game there at the end.

One of the dumbest posts I have seen in a long time. IF they go 30 % the have a tie game there at the end?? Well if Hansbrough hits for his average UNC wins by 25.... That's just stupid logic, you don't think that UNC plays a little different in the last 10 minutes if OU starts hitting 3's? Have fun watching the final four and your 2009 NCAA Champs UNC

TheChamp24
04-01-2009, 11:50 AM
One of the dumbest posts I have seen in a long time. IF they go 30 % the have a tie game there at the end?? Well if Hansbrough hits for his average UNC wins by 25.... That's just stupid logic, you don't think that UNC plays a little different in the last 10 minutes if OU starts hitting 3's? Have fun watching the final four and your 2009 NCAA Champs UNC

And this is one of the dumbest posts in a long time.
OU was flat out cold shooting and that is why they lost. And yes, if they actually made some of those shots, it would've been a whole lot different of a game there in the end.
Am I saying OU would win? Not necessarily, but they needed other people to score and they didn't.
I guess some people take the internet too seriously.

GSRelyea
04-01-2009, 11:58 AM
And this is one of the dumbest posts in a long time.
OU was flat out cold shooting and that is why they lost. And yes, if they actually made some of those shots, it would've been a whole lot different of a game there in the end.
Am I saying OU would win? Not necessarily, but they needed other people to score and they didn't.
I guess some people take the internet too seriously.

I don't take anything too seriously, but using your logic you basically make a case for any losing team. So if the Broncos would have scored 4 more TD's against SD it would of been a much different game. I get it, this is great!

Rock Chalk
04-01-2009, 12:46 PM
First off, Calipari has 3 of the top 6 High School seniors verballing to Memphis next year, and they have until mid-April to switch so Calipari could bring them to Kentucky with him. Also look how well he has recruited everywhere over the years, now take that and times his resources by 10 and you have what he could be bringing in to Kentucky.

UCLA, Kentucky, and North Carolina are the 3 top coaching positions in the country(in any order, would vary person to person) and that is the Everest right there for most coaches. Add in that he has to claw and scratch for Memphis to gain any kind of national respect, hell the team won 31 games this year and couldn't muster a 1 seed.

It's time to step up with the big boys, no need to parare the team's accomplishments in the media, and no more beating up teams in your conference like Marshall, Tulane, and Rice.

Oh and this 8 year 35 million dollar deal might play a role in it as well.

HS Ballers verbally committed. I will address each of these one by one.
DeMarcus Cousins - This is the only likely recruit to follow Calipari to Kentucky and it does seem likely he will.
John Wall - First of all, he hasn't verbally committed to Memphis. But as a Carolina kid he will NEVER step foot on Kentucky's campus.
Xavier Henry - Signed a LOI but the NCAA has been lax on releasing kids with LOIs when there is a coaching change. He will not likely follow Calipari to Kentucky because the only reason he chose Memphis over Kansas was to play with his brother. Since CJ (his brother) isnt likely to go to Kentucky, Xavier is likely to go to Kansas (if they can make scholarship room for him). Also with Cousins, Meeks, and Patterson playing for UK next year, Henry will not get the spotlight he wants to move on to the NBA in a year.

Kentucky is a great job for some, but its also considered a nightmare job for most. Winning is expected every year without fail. Final Four appearances have to come frequently and its a crapton of pressure. UK fans are the most notoriously impatient of all fans anywhere in the country in any sport. UNC and KU and UCLA fans (other bluebloods) are also demanding but none of them expect firings if Final Fours dont occur every year or every other year.

UCLA, UNC and UK aren't the three best jobs in the country. If anything that is a subjective argument. UCLA has been irrelevant for the most part since the NCAA started tracking recruiting violations which, happened to coincide with John Wooden's "retirement". UK is one of the most demanding positions in all of college basketball. UNC is a great job, but again demanding. KU not even being mentioned as its the mecca of college basketball (or do you need a history lesson) is well, insulting to basketball fans. Duke now has to be considered one of the top jobs as well as UConn. The blueblood schools (pretty much those I mentioned) are all top jobs and people dont leave them (except in Roy's case to go from one to another and end up at his alma mater).

Calipari is one of the best recruiters in the nation but he is going to have more trouble getting his style to consistently work against the big boys. The Dribble drive is effective against CUSA opponents because they have no real threats in the middle and the best defenses in CUSA are among the worst in the big 6 conferences. That doesnt mean he wont do well but he wont do nearly as well as he did at Memphis. I got no hate for Calipari, he is a fantastic coach but I dont see how UK could pay that much money for a guy that has never won a championship.

Personally I hope Calipari does well at UK and I hope, with his connections to KU (yet another in the long line of basketball hall of famers or future hall of famers with ties to KU) that Self and Calipari start to schedule against each other (as they just began a regular matchup with Memphis that will probably only now turn into a single home and home). KU vs UK would make for a great rivalry every year (on top of the probable Louisville/UK matchup that will undoubtably take place what with Pitino and Calipari's rivalry).

TheChamp24
04-01-2009, 07:20 PM
I don't take anything too seriously, but using your logic you basically make a case for any losing team. So if the Broncos would have scored 4 more TD's against SD it would of been a much different game. I get it, this is great!

I simply said if they made a couple more of those threes, it would have been a reasonable game, which isn't asking for a whole lot. OU was what, 0-12 in the first half from downtown? If they weren't so cold, it would've been a close game. That is fact, NC wouldn't have run away like they did. Nobody from OU was hitting shots, and they were getting open shots, just didn't hit them. That is the thing with basketball, some days you are just ice cold and can't make a shot, which was OU.
It compares nothing to Denver scoring 4 TD's more in a game.

FADERPROOF
04-01-2009, 07:51 PM
HS Ballers verbally committed. I will address each of these one by one.
DeMarcus Cousins - This is the only likely recruit to follow Calipari to Kentucky and it does seem likely he will.
John Wall - First of all, he hasn't verbally committed to Memphis. But as a Carolina kid he will NEVER step foot on Kentucky's campus.
Xavier Henry - Signed a LOI but the NCAA has been lax on releasing kids with LOIs when there is a coaching change. He will not likely follow Calipari to Kentucky because the only reason he chose Memphis over Kansas was to play with his brother. Since CJ (his brother) isnt likely to go to Kentucky, Xavier is likely to go to Kansas (if they can make scholarship room for him). Also with Cousins, Meeks, and Patterson playing for UK next year, Henry will not get the spotlight he wants to move on to the NBA in a year.

Kentucky is a great job for some, but its also considered a nightmare job for most. Winning is expected every year without fail. Final Four appearances have to come frequently and its a crapton of pressure. UK fans are the most notoriously impatient of all fans anywhere in the country in any sport. UNC and KU and UCLA fans (other bluebloods) are also demanding but none of them expect firings if Final Fours dont occur every year or every other year.

UCLA, UNC and UK aren't the three best jobs in the country. If anything that is a subjective argument. UCLA has been irrelevant for the most part since the NCAA started tracking recruiting violations which, happened to coincide with John Wooden's "retirement". UK is one of the most demanding positions in all of college basketball. UNC is a great job, but again demanding. KU not even being mentioned as its the mecca of college basketball (or do you need a history lesson) is well, insulting to basketball fans. Duke now has to be considered one of the top jobs as well as UConn. The blueblood schools (pretty much those I mentioned) are all top jobs and people dont leave them (except in Roy's case to go from one to another and end up at his alma mater).

Calipari is one of the best recruiters in the nation but he is going to have more trouble getting his style to consistently work against the big boys. The Dribble drive is effective against CUSA opponents because they have no real threats in the middle and the best defenses in CUSA are among the worst in the big 6 conferences. That doesnt mean he wont do well but he wont do nearly as well as he did at Memphis. I got no hate for Calipari, he is a fantastic coach but I dont see how UK could pay that much money for a guy that has never won a championship.

Personally I hope Calipari does well at UK and I hope, with his connections to KU (yet another in the long line of basketball hall of famers or future hall of famers with ties to KU) that Self and Calipari start to schedule against each other (as they just began a regular matchup with Memphis that will probably only now turn into a single home and home). KU vs UK would make for a great rivalry every year (on top of the probable Louisville/UK matchup that will undoubtably take place what with Pitino and Calipari's rivalry).

Kansas not being mentioned is an insult...what team is your favorite again?

Thought so, and admittedly Kansas is 4th on the list, but those are top 3 as far as a coaching gig goes, and it's not just my subjective opinion but widely the popular choice among sports journalists that have been covering sports their entire lives.

UCLA not being relevant has nothing to do with the prestige as head coach, hell Notre Dame football hasn't been relevant since the early 90's and it still is the most coveted college position available.

And Calipari better succeed, more tv time for UK games which means more camera time for Ashley Judd.

FADERPROOF
04-01-2009, 07:52 PM
I simply said if they made a couple more of those threes, it would have been a reasonable game, which isn't asking for a whole lot. OU was what, 0-12 in the first half from downtown? If they weren't so cold, it would've been a close game. That is fact, NC wouldn't have run away like they did. Nobody from OU was hitting shots, and they were getting open shots, just didn't hit them. That is the thing with basketball, some days you are just ice cold and can't make a shot, which was OU.
It compares nothing to Denver scoring 4 TD's more in a game.

No, actually you said if they made 3 more 3 pointers that the game would be tied at the end, meaning OU was just a couple shots away from sending that nail-biter of a game into OT.

SouthStndJunkie
04-04-2009, 04:46 PM
Let's go Michigan State!

SouthStndJunkie
04-04-2009, 05:51 PM
Close game.

oubronco
04-04-2009, 05:52 PM
Pull the upset and set the tone for Villanova

SouthStndJunkie
04-04-2009, 06:01 PM
Sparty up by 8 with about 7 minutes left.

SouthStndJunkie
04-04-2009, 06:13 PM
The lead is up to 11.

SouthStndJunkie
04-04-2009, 06:26 PM
Sparty pissing away the lead.

SouthStndJunkie
04-04-2009, 06:31 PM
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ludo21
04-04-2009, 06:52 PM
wow, IZZO is a great coach.

No way I thought they had the talent to beat UCONN.

Gort
04-04-2009, 11:31 PM
what do North Carolina and Michigan State have in common?

they both lost to the Terps this year.

the Terps record this year against the final 2 was 2-1.

http://sports.espn.go.com/photo/2008/1127/ncb_g_vasquez01_300.jpg

http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2009/02/21/PH2009022102164.jpg

SureShot
04-05-2009, 02:18 AM
what do North Carolina and Michigan State have in common?

they both lost to the Terps this year.

the Terps record this year against the final 2 was 2-1.

http://sports.espn.go.com/photo/2008/1127/ncb_g_vasquez01_300.jpg

http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2009/02/21/PH2009022102164.jpg

Love the enthusiasm, but could you possibly take "moral victory" any further?

Rock Chalk
04-05-2009, 10:30 AM
Gotta be impressed with Sparty. They knocked off the Big East big boys almost single handedly.

And KU gave them their toughest game. That's awesome.

Gort
04-05-2009, 04:56 PM
Love the enthusiasm, but could you possibly take "moral victory" any further?

well, i could always make fun of Dook. ;)

i particularly like this photo...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_fBjgnKfCnio/ScQAKAmYq_I/AAAAAAAAAsk/1Y7amIkPMKI/s400/untitled.bmp

SouthStndJunkie
04-05-2009, 11:53 PM
I am torn on who to root for on Monday.

On one hand, I would like to see Tyler Hansbrough go out with a title to cap off a great career.

On the other hand, I am a Big Ten fan, so it would be nice to see Sparty take home the title....and it would be great for the state of Michigan.

Plus....if Michigan State wins it all, it will be a sweep for the 'lowly' Big Ten, as Penn State won the NIT title as well.

SouthStndJunkie
04-05-2009, 11:54 PM
Tom Izzo might just be the best coach in college basketball right now.

FADERPROOF
04-06-2009, 08:43 PM
Let me be this first to say congrats to North Carolina on winning the national championship.

Oh, there's a whole half left still?

SouthStndJunkie
04-06-2009, 09:19 PM
zzzzzzzzzzzzz....