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montrose
02-25-2009, 11:18 AM
Broncos free agents brace for change
By Lee Rasizer, Rocky Mountain News

The Broncos have informed their players who are scheduled to become unrestricted free agents they will be allowed to enter the market and won't be re-signed before the league's shopping spree begins Thursday night.

Most, if not all, of those players won't return, regardless of price, though there have been some talks between the team and defensive lineman Kenny Peterson.

The rest of the group about to hit the market includes running backs Tatum Bell and Michael Pittman, defensive end Ebenezer Ekuban, safety Marlon McCree, cornerback Karl Paymah, linebacker Nate Webster, receivers Darrell Jackson and Edell Shepherd and tight end Jeb Putzier.

"I want to come back to Denver if they want my services. But I want them to want me back," said Pittman, who noted he has fully recovered from a neck injury that cut short his 2008 season. "There's no hard feeling either way."

Pittman added he appreciated new general manager Brian Xanders calling him to apprise him of the situation.

Paymah, a 2005 draft pick who has shuttled between nickel and dime roles for four seasons, was told when he recently bumped into new coach Josh McDaniels there's interest in Paymah's potential return.

And with the new staff coming to Denver, Paymah said, "It's definitely something you want to be a part of."

But there's the business side to consider, and Paymah has goals he wants to attain.

"I'm definitely a starter. It's my time to be 'the guy,' " he said.

The Broncos, who are expected to be active in free agency, are well-positioned on the salary cap to begin restocking their roster and will focus heavily on the defensive side.

The team currently has about $35 million of cap room. That total, though, doesn't factor in player incentives previously earned or that weren't reached. Denver also will have to save at least $5 million for its rookie pool and is considering possible new deals with receiver Brandon Marshall and center Casey Wiegmann.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2009/feb/24/broncos-free-agents-bracing-for-change/

theAPAOps5
02-25-2009, 11:27 AM
Poor Paymah his reality has been clouded by this past defense. Yes Carl you are a starter level guy on Denvers OLD Defense. But on a defense they are trying to build, uh nope, not yet.

Beantown Bronco
02-25-2009, 11:39 AM
I'm kind of surprised about Ekuban. He'd make solid depth at a position that sorely needs it right now.

Kaylore
02-25-2009, 11:46 AM
"I'm definitely a starter. It's my time to be 'the guy,' " he said.
Uhh

worm
02-25-2009, 11:56 AM
I didn't realize that being a starter had to do with time accrued.

Florida_Bronco
02-25-2009, 11:56 AM
I think keeping Paymah would be a good move. He's a bigger, physical corner that should fit well in Nolan's 3-4 scheme. Paymah had a pretty good 2007 season and had his moments in 2008 when they weren't playing him a mile off his receiver, which totally negates his strengths.

denvernut1
02-25-2009, 11:57 AM
Thats A Joke Pahmah Lol ....he Was Burned All Yr.. Wit A Ten Yard
Cushing.. Im A Starter Lol Lol Lol Lol....

~Crash~
02-25-2009, 12:15 PM
Poor Paymah his reality has been clouded by this past defense. Yes Carl you are a starter level guy on Denvers OLD Defense. But on a defense they are trying to build, uh nope, not yet.

I bet you said the same about Foxy:strong:

montrose
02-25-2009, 12:15 PM
I think keeping Paymah would be a good move. He's a bigger, physical corner that should fit well in Nolan's 3-4 scheme. Paymah had a pretty good 2007 season and had his moments in 2008 when they weren't playing him a mile off his receiver, which totally negates his strengths.

I actually think Paymah has some ability as a man-cover corner but if he thinks he's an NFL starter he's sorely mistaken.

theAPAOps5
02-25-2009, 12:18 PM
I bet you said the same about Foxy:strong:

Yep and still think it even though he started in Atlanta.

Dagmar
02-25-2009, 12:20 PM
Thats A Joke Pahmah Lol ....he Was Burned All Yr.. Wit A Ten Yard
Cushing.. Im A Starter Lol Lol Lol Lol....

LOL Is that English?

bowtown
02-25-2009, 12:26 PM
Paymah is a good fit here. He and Bowlen get their confidence and swagger from the same place.

cmhargrove
02-25-2009, 12:32 PM
I actually think Paymah has some ability as a man-cover corner but if he thinks he's an NFL starter he's sorely mistaken.

Bingo, he's good depth in an aggressive man coverage defense. He's not much of a zone guy. However, without fixing our D-line we have had two pro-bowlers at Cb that have looked pretty bad.

Fix the D-line and Paymah would be serviceable in an aggressive man scheme.

bpc
02-25-2009, 12:35 PM
They should keep those two. It's gonna be hard to find Paymah's measurables in the draft this year knowing we probably aren't going CB in round 1 or 2. He provides depth and at least a 3rd corner.

I think Peterson is a good player who can fit in a 3-4 or 4-3. He's scheme diverse as they like to say. He can fit into a 5 tech in the 3-4, or a DE/DT in the 4-3. Plus he works his ass off.

epicSocialism4tw
02-25-2009, 12:40 PM
I'm kind of surprised about Ekuban. He'd make solid depth at a position that sorely needs it right now.

Ekuban should stay. He has been our best DL player since Pryce left and has done a good job.

Im scratching my head at that one.

chaz
02-25-2009, 12:48 PM
Kenny P is the guy I want back...and maybe Pittman too-he's a tough SOB

baja
02-25-2009, 01:09 PM
And with the new staff coming to Denver, Paymah said, "It's definitely something you want to be a part of."

Interesting!

ZONA
02-25-2009, 02:25 PM
I think it's hard to evaluate almost anybody in the backfield with the front seven we had trying to rush the passer. If he wasn't a FA and making almost nothing, I'd maybe (MAYBE) consider letting him fight for a backup spot next year. But since he is a FA, let him see what he can get. We could probably find somebody as good or better for less.

gyldenlove
02-25-2009, 02:37 PM
Poor Paymah his reality has been clouded by this past defense. Yes Carl you are a starter level guy on Denvers OLD Defense. But on a defense they are trying to build, uh nope, not yet.

I would agree if Foxworth hadn't been in the exact same situation and gone to Atlanta and had a pretty good year as a starter. I wonder if the problem wasn't the team more than the player, especially at cornerback.

lostknight
02-25-2009, 02:38 PM
Paymah is a third corner _at best_. I have never been impressed with him from a skills position. He simply doesn't have the build to keep up with the tall fast receivers in the league.

Popps
02-25-2009, 03:01 PM
Interesting!

BS. The new staff is trash. Xanders was working a hot dog cart at the Georgia Dome before he came here.

Atwater His Ass
02-25-2009, 03:39 PM
I'm shocked at Ekuban. The guy is a quality NFL DL, if not spectatular.

Peterson I'd like to keep for depth as well. I thought he played at least average last season.

Although it's hard to argue keeping DL guys on what has been the worst DL in the NFL this decade.

Paymah, meh. The guy is ok, obviously not a starter though. I'm not too beat up over this one eithe way.

Pittman I think they should try to bring back as well. The guy is tough, runs hard, and with the way this position can succumb to injuries, it's not a bad idea to have a guy like him around, granted that he must be 100% from that neck injury to be viable.

2KBack
02-25-2009, 04:10 PM
I would agree if Foxworth hadn't been in the exact same situation and gone to Atlanta and had a pretty good year as a starter. I wonder if the problem wasn't the team more than the player, especially at cornerback.

I would extrapolate that for most of the defense

TheReverend
02-25-2009, 04:32 PM
I bet you said the same about Foxy:strong:

Only Foxy can play football...

theAPAOps5
02-25-2009, 04:34 PM
I would agree if Foxworth hadn't been in the exact same situation and gone to Atlanta and had a pretty good year as a starter. I wonder if the problem wasn't the team more than the player, especially at cornerback.

Hard to say he had a great year as he was buried deep in the depth chart for a few games before finally starting. I still don't think he is a game day starter. But boy howdy he looks all pro in Training Camp. At camp I though he was going to replace Bly. In the pre-season games he looked totally different.

Its hard to say as our DLine sucked ass the whole time he was here so it skews the judgment.

montrose
02-25-2009, 04:38 PM
Hard to say he had a great year as he was buried deep in the depth chart for a few games before finally starting. I still don't think he is a game day starter. But boy howdy he looks all pro in Training Camp. At camp I though he was going to replace Bly. In the pre-season games he looked totally different.

Its hard to say as our DLine sucked ass the whole time he was here so it skews the judgment.

My opinion on Foxy is that he can be a very solid nickleback on a defense that gets some pressure on the QB. He's not good enough to hold up for the amount of time Denver's defense requires a CB cover, and his limited size and athletic ability will prohibit him from being a long-term NFL starting CB - but on the right team the guy is a solid NB and a great guy for the locker room and community.

theAPAOps5
02-25-2009, 04:47 PM
I never said these guys suck. I just don't think they are starters. Nickle backs, well they are solid. And I agree Foxy is a presence I would love to have around the team still.

~Crash~
02-25-2009, 09:05 PM
Ekuban should stay. He has been our best DL player since Pryce left and has done a good job.

Im scratching my head at that one.

that is me also don't get that at all ....EE was our most stable DE last few years

TheDave
02-25-2009, 09:32 PM
Ekuban can't play in a 3-4... thats why Cleveland traded him.

BroncoMan4ever
02-25-2009, 10:29 PM
Paymah is a good fit here. He and Bowlen get their confidence and swagger from the same place.

Jack Daniels?

OrangeRising
02-25-2009, 10:57 PM
"I'm definitely a starter"
Is he really this delusional? What I don't understand is why McDaniels would indicate he wanted Paymah back. Give the guy your best wishes and change the locks already.

arghemtee
02-26-2009, 02:28 AM
Uhh

Believe it.

You cannot judge any players performance on last year. It was a horrible scheme and NO ONE played well.

TheReverend
02-26-2009, 05:55 AM
Believe it.

You cannot judge any players performance on last year. It was a horrible scheme and NO ONE played well.

How about every other year in a Denver uni?

barryr
02-26-2009, 06:10 AM
Paymah could be a starter, assuming the Broncos found a pass rush anytime soon. Otherwise, like any CB I suppose, he'd be exposed.

If going to a 3-4, Ekuban doesn't really fit that scheme. He would need to gain like 20 pounds to hold up on such a DL and at this stage of his career, not likely happening.