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Kaylore
02-24-2009, 09:31 AM
Discuss all the drama here! :) (sticky please)

Northman
02-24-2009, 09:48 AM
Have we started yet?

brncs_fan
02-24-2009, 10:30 AM
Have we started yet?

One day after the start of the other mock. So this one will start on Thursday since the other one starts on Wednesday.

Kaylore
02-25-2009, 07:52 AM
Sticky!!!!!!

brncs_fan
02-25-2009, 08:16 AM
Sticky!!!!!!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3189/2508464652_d61c2c3197.jpg?v=0

Kaylore
02-26-2009, 10:06 AM
Is this thread doomed to second-class bumpage?

TheReverend
02-26-2009, 10:58 AM
Has the first pick even been made yet?

Kaylore
02-26-2009, 11:13 AM
Has the first pick even been made yet?

Nope. Florida Bronco is on the clock. I sent him a PM but he's an evening/afternoon poster. Just got a PM and he will be making his selection soon!

BroncoBuff
02-26-2009, 01:50 PM
Is this thread doomed to second-class bumpage?

BroncoBuff got "bumpaged" outta the Chiefs ... ???

TheReverend
02-26-2009, 02:04 PM
Nope. Florida Bronco is on the clock. I sent him a PM but he's an evening/afternoon poster. Just got a PM and he will be making his selection soon!

You sure?

worm
02-26-2009, 02:07 PM
BroncoBuff got "bumpaged" outta the Chiefs ... ???

You are listed as the owner of the Chiefs.


Come on Florida! You have had weeks to think about this pick.

24champ
02-26-2009, 02:09 PM
I'm ready to roll...come on FL Bronco!

Kaylore
02-26-2009, 02:22 PM
I'm ready to roll...come on FL Bronco!

He's negotiating a trade with some people. Let the drama begin!:wiggle:

TheReverend
02-26-2009, 04:11 PM
He's negotiating a trade with some people. Let the drama begin!:wiggle:

The "drama" or the "nap time"?

MagicHef
02-26-2009, 04:14 PM
I really didn't think it was even possible for a mock draft to get off to a slower start than the first one did.

24champ
02-26-2009, 05:00 PM
Christ...come on.

Arkie
02-26-2009, 05:14 PM
I looked at '08 mock thread to compare the speed of the draft. We flew through the first round. TheDave picked for Miami in the #1 spot the day before the mock draft actually started, which was realistic since Miami really did choose and sign their guy before the real draft.

24champ
02-26-2009, 05:19 PM
At this rate the real draft will be over before we get past the third round....

worm
02-26-2009, 06:44 PM
...and we are off and moving...

Florida_Bronco
02-26-2009, 06:44 PM
Pick is in, I took Stafford.

24champ
02-26-2009, 06:48 PM
Pick will be in shortly....within the hour. Deciding between Curry and Smith....

ludo21
02-26-2009, 06:52 PM
Stafford will be good, and plenty of OL to pick one up at 20. good job.

Florida_Bronco
02-26-2009, 07:03 PM
Stafford will be good, and plenty of OL to pick one up at 20. good job.

I hope so. Of course, if I had been drafting for the Lions these last few years they'd already have Trent Edwards and Tony Ugoh to protect his blindside. ~Popps~

24champ
02-26-2009, 08:42 PM
I selected Jason Smith because he has the most upside at tackle and is the most athletic tackle in the draft.

Florida_Bronco
02-26-2009, 08:46 PM
I selected Jason Smith because he has the most upside at tackle and is the most athletic tackle in the draft.

I came real close to picking him, but I threw curveballs in the last two mocks so I figured I'd go with the safe pick.

24champ
02-26-2009, 08:51 PM
I came real close to picking him, but I threw curveballs in the last two mocks so I figured I'd go with the safe pick.

I came REALLY close to choosing Curry. I think I told you I was picking Curry but the rams need to fix that O-line...

Kaylore
02-26-2009, 09:54 PM
This suggests Curry.

worm
02-27-2009, 01:09 PM
Paging BroncoBuff to the courtesy phone.

24champ
02-27-2009, 01:59 PM
Paging BroncoBuff to the courtesy phone.

I pmed him shortly after my pick was made.

TheReverend
02-27-2009, 06:14 PM
Looks like we're off to a blinding, 1 pick per day pace...

skpac1001
02-27-2009, 07:58 PM
So what happens at 8:05? The next team picks or someone picks for BroncoBuff?

socalorado
02-27-2009, 08:34 PM
So what happens at 8:05? The next team picks or someone picks for BroncoBuff?

I think kaylore will make the pick

TheReverend
02-27-2009, 08:54 PM
I think kaylore will make the pick

Maybe if we institute the NFL's policy of "teams can leap frog the picker until they get a pick in" we can get the pace back on track...

socalorado
02-27-2009, 08:56 PM
Maybe if we institute the NFL's policy of "teams can leap frog the picker until they get a pick in" we can get the pace back on track...

No $h!t!!

KAylore, light this candle, and lets go to the moon!!!!!!!!!

BroncoBuff
02-27-2009, 09:00 PM
You are listed as the owner of the Chiefs.So what happens at 8:05? The next team picks or someone picks for BroncoBuff?Listen guys ... like I aleardy posted earlier in this thread, somebody gave the chefs to theDave instead of me. I'm okay with that, I must've been out of the loop or something. But as long as he made one pick, I think he should really stick it out the rest of the way :thumbs:

socalorado
02-27-2009, 09:06 PM
Listen guys ... like I aleardy posted earlier in this thread, somebody gave the chefs to theDave instead of me. I'm okay with that, I must've been out of the loop or something. But as long as he made one pick, I think he should really stick it out the rest of the way :thumbs:

Figures its the dave. somebody go check the political forum, hes more than likely in a huge pissing match with bob over pot/porn stimulus appropriations.

BroncoBuff
02-27-2009, 09:12 PM
Oh my gosh .... scratch that last post. TheDave is the chefs owner in Mock Draft #1 (:oyvey:) I'm still the chefs owner in Mock Draft #2 (:oyvey:)

You guys are SO GAY to hold two mock drafts - simultaneously - in February!



Anyway .... I made the pick just 7 minutes late .... Matthew Stafford.

Florida_Bronco
02-27-2009, 09:19 PM
Oh my gosh .... scratch that last post. TheDave is the chefs owner in Mock Draft #1 (:oyvey:) I'm still the chefs owner in Mock Draft #2 (:oyvey:)

You guys are SO GAY to hold two mock drafts - simultaneously - in February!



Anyway .... I made the pick just 7 minutes late .... Matthew Stafford.

Dude, Stafford went to me #1 overall.

skpac1001
02-27-2009, 09:24 PM
Our draft is so much more fun then the other one.

24champ
02-28-2009, 12:27 AM
Dude, Stafford went to me #1 overall.

Dude I had a feeling some of these guys couldn't handle two drafts...I thought it would be easy for them but guess not...look at the board guys. Jeez...

SouthStndJunkie
02-28-2009, 01:10 AM
Nice pick Buff....

Pass that over here.

JCMElway
02-28-2009, 01:11 AM
Hey, the Mock Draft I had a few snags getting off the ground. We'll get going, no prob.

dekers
02-28-2009, 02:33 AM
Hi there guys am looking to trade out of the first round . 29 1-29 Colts - dekers . and pick up some extra picks . hit me up . thanks everyone.

TheReverend
02-28-2009, 07:55 AM
Okay, so seriously Pick #3 is over a day and a half late?

This is really that complicated?

TheReverend
02-28-2009, 11:48 AM
Read your post in the selection thread, Khan. Any chance there's a fill in on stand by that's capable of sticking to their commitments?

socalorado
02-28-2009, 01:55 PM
Read your post in the selection thread, Khan. Any chance there's a fill in on stand by that's capable of sticking to their commitments?

I am ready to pick, just say when!
Give KC Matt Cassell and be done with it.

worm
02-28-2009, 06:29 PM
This draft has turned to almost as bad of a cluster**** as the Broncos front office.

BroncoBuff
02-28-2009, 07:40 PM
Okay, so seriously Pick #3 is over a day and a half late? This is really that complicated?
It is when you have TWO mock drafts on the SAME SITE at the SAME TIME, before free agency even starts ... :oyvey:

GoHAM
02-28-2009, 07:47 PM
It is when you have TWO mock drafts on the SAME SITE at the SAME TIME, before free agency even starts ... :oyvey:

Seriously you're a lawyer and you can't follow two different lines of questioning?

WTF? Not that difficult. Just saying.

TheReverend
02-28-2009, 08:10 PM
It is when you have TWO mock drafts on the SAME SITE at the SAME TIME, before free agency even starts ... :oyvey:

Sorry, Buff, but that's a really weak excuse.

The rules have been laid out VERY plainly since this second mock draft concept and before it's inception.

Not only did you drop the ball, you picked a guy already been picked...

Kaylore
02-28-2009, 10:11 PM
It is when you have TWO mock drafts on the SAME SITE at the SAME TIME, before free agency even starts ... :oyvey:

Was it really that confusing? You were the third pick in the first round. You have 24 hours to make your choice. There are only two other players in front of you and all you had to do was scroll down and see which two had been taken. I'm not sure how that's so confusing.

BroncoBuff
02-28-2009, 11:09 PM
I didn't know there were two drafts. That's how.

JCMElway
02-28-2009, 11:11 PM
No big whoop guys. We'll be done before the draft. Let's get to pick #12!

brncs_fan
03-01-2009, 04:18 PM
Let's build some momentum here.

JCMElway
03-01-2009, 10:30 PM
If anyone wants to trade up to #12 I'm listening to offers....

worm
03-02-2009, 07:25 AM
Also listening for those wanting to trade up to the #14 slot.

The pick depleted Saints are very interested in moving down.

Kaylore
03-02-2009, 08:37 AM
I didn't know there were two drafts. That's how.

It's all good. I think we're squared away. I also laughed out loud literally when Socalorado took Jason Smith again. It was pretty hilarious.

TheReverend
03-02-2009, 08:51 AM
It's all good. I think we're squared away. I also laughed out loud literally when Socalorado took Jason Smith again. It was pretty hilarious.

That was pretty priceless. I woke this weekend to a PM from him saying I was on the clock. So I shuffled through all my notes getting ready, popped into the thread...

...and it was just chaos.

Broncoman13
03-02-2009, 09:13 AM
Anybody interested in sneaking back into the 1st round? Pick #28 is up for grabs. I would like a late 2nd and a late 3rd, but I would also consider a mid/early 2nd and a 4th.

TheReverend
03-02-2009, 09:51 AM
Anybody interested in sneaking back into the 1st round? Pick #28 is up for grabs. I would like a late 2nd and a late 3rd, but I would also consider a mid/early 2nd and a 4th.

Maybe. Let's see how the chips fall.

brncs_fan
03-02-2009, 09:57 AM
(I'd post a pic but dont have the skills)

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/misc.php?do=bbcode

TheReverend
03-02-2009, 10:17 AM
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/misc.php?do=bbcode

You just exponential increased my internetz skillz. Reps to you, sir.

brncs_fan
03-02-2009, 10:37 AM
You just exponential increased my internetz skillz. Reps to you, sir.

I know that you will use your new powers for good right?

Archer81
03-02-2009, 10:43 AM
I know that you will use your new powers for good right?


I know I wont...moo ha ha ha...


:Broncos:

JCMElway
03-02-2009, 12:24 PM
Guys. Seriously. All my targets at 12 are gone. I would really like to trade down here. I'd even be willing to lose about 100-200 points in draft value to do it.

Let the trade offers flow!

socalorado
03-02-2009, 08:53 PM
My evil plan is working perfectly!

Free agent T.J. Houshmandzadeh will sign a multi-year deal with the Seahawks, according to the National Football Post.

ESPN has picked up the report. Seattle was offering at least $2 million more than both the Vikings and Bengals. The Seahawks were also desperate for a durable wideout. Houshmandzadeh was a flanker in Cincinnati and that's Deion Branch's position in Seattle. Branch could now be moved to the slot or released, as it was rumored he might be in the winter.
Source: National Football Post

Seahawks signed WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh to a five-year, $40 million contract. The deal includes $15 million in guarantees.

Kaylore
03-03-2009, 12:16 PM
You just exponential increased my internetz skillz. Reps to you, sir.

I'm so using this all the time now.

Florida_Bronco
03-03-2009, 06:09 PM
We're moving at a pretty good clip now.

Kaylore
03-03-2009, 10:46 PM
We're moving at a pretty good clip now.

Yeah I think it's sorted out. And thank JCMElway for updating the selections of who picked what for us.

ludo21
03-03-2009, 10:53 PM
Just so all know:

Requiem and Eddie Mac are up, NOT me... I let Req take my spot.

brncs_fan
03-04-2009, 07:09 AM
I'm so using this all the time now.

I'm so ignoring everything that you write using that.

Rohirrim
03-04-2009, 02:12 PM
Okay, Kaylore. Where's my #34 pick? I want that pick! I want that pick! It's no fair. (just getting into the Dove Valley mode) ;D

randomtask
03-04-2009, 08:04 PM
Nicks over heyward-bey? Bold move, though the bucs do have galloway to provide the deep threat.

Florida_Bronco
03-05-2009, 08:25 AM
Just got online and saw I'm on the clock. Pick will be in shortly.

worm
03-05-2009, 11:35 PM
Vontae Davis is an interesting prospect.

He has All World talent...but everything I read seems to point to him mailing it in a lot of times. Not sure he has the heart to be great.

I considered him for the Saints #14 pick as they were desperate for corner help (until they signed Greer yesterday)...but I don't think I would draft him in the top 25. High risk\reward type.

It will be interesting where he is picked for real.

Rohirrim
03-06-2009, 06:28 AM
I hereby challenge BroncoBuff to a debate! He should immediately cough up that #34 pick to it's rightful owner, Rohirrim (choosing for the Pats). Why? Because of all the trouble that pick brought to this board, for one thing. Second, he has the luxury of knowing he doesn't need to pick a QB, which otherwise (of course), is a problem he would have had to deal with. So, he gets the benefit of knowing of the existence of the trade for Cassell and Vrabel, plus an extra second round pick?!! That's ridiculous. Finally, does anybody on this board really want to do the Chiefs any favors? Of course not. Gentleman of the OM II Draft Mock, I beg your indulgence.

I rest my case.

Thank you.

Broncoman13
03-06-2009, 10:48 AM
Great pick Roh! Little Clay is one of my favorite players in this draft. Good article on him that you posted too.

Kaylore
03-06-2009, 10:58 AM
I hereby challenge BroncoBuff to a debate! He should immediately cough up that #34 pick to it's rightful owner, Rohirrim (choosing for the Pats). Why? Because of all the trouble that pick brought to this board, for one thing. Second, he has the luxury of knowing he doesn't need to pick a QB, which otherwise (of course), is a problem he would have had to deal with. So, he gets the benefit of knowing of the existence of the trade for Cassell and Vrabel, plus an extra second round pick?!! That's ridiculous. Finally, does anybody on this board really want to do the Chiefs any favors? Of course not. Gentleman of the OM II Draft Mock, I beg your indulgence.

I rest my case.

Thank you.

"That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-out argument."

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p306/darbyscrub/JudgeChamberlainHaller.jpg

"Overruled."

Rohirrim
03-06-2009, 11:12 AM
"That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-out argument."

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p306/darbyscrub/JudgeChamberlainHaller.jpg

"Overruled."

_i_O_i_

socalorado
03-06-2009, 12:11 PM
Great pick Roh! Little Clay is one of my favorite players in this draft. Good article on him that you posted too.

From everything i hear out here, Clay considers this opportunity just the very start of a process that he wants to excel at. This guy is very focused on his opportunity. As is his buddy Cushing. They both have like tunnel vision to be succesful in the NFL. ANd alot of it has to do with both their dads, but Clays is playing a pivotal role in their ideology about how to be pros in the NFL and be succesful.

My dream scenario for DEN is
#12 Cushing SAM
#48 C.Mathews JACK

TheReverend
03-06-2009, 08:05 PM
From everything i hear out here, Clay considers this opportunity just the very start of a process that he wants to excel at. This guy is very focused on his opportunity. As is his buddy Cushing. They both have like tunnel vision to be succesful in the NFL. ANd alot of it has to do with both their dads, but Clays is playing a pivotal role in their ideology about how to be pros in the NFL and be succesful.

My dream scenario for DEN is
#12 Cushing SAM
#48 C.Mathews JACK

booooooooooooooooooooooo

socalorado
03-06-2009, 08:45 PM
booooooooooooooooooooooo

I know, i know REY REY. I am trying reverse psychology!!!

Kaylore
03-06-2009, 10:26 PM
Drek hasn't responded to any of my PM's. I've sent him three telling him he's coming, on deck, and now on the clock. Still nothing. I guess I'll be able to leap frog him. He has until 6:00 AM.

TheReverend
03-08-2009, 07:25 AM
DEKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't type any of the words going through my head after you just stole my player.........

dekers
03-08-2009, 07:37 AM
DEKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't type any of the words going through my head after you just stole my player.........

lol.:welcome:

Rohirrim
03-08-2009, 02:16 PM
Is my #34 pick coming up pretty soon? ???

TheReverend
03-09-2009, 10:09 AM
From the picks thread:

****Announcement****
We're having technical issues. A.L.F. was supposed to send out the notifications for round 2, but had a windows virus and couldn't tell me about it until now. No one has been notified since BB made his pick last night. I will be extending the time allotted for the next selection only to 11:00 PM tonight and then we'll get back on schedule with 12 hours per pick for round 2. Sorry for the inconvenience.

So, correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding of this post is that we're extending the selection time because ALF couldn't send out the notification to himself that he's on the clock?

That's just funny to me.

Kaylore
03-09-2009, 10:16 AM
From the picks thread:



So, correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding of this post is that we're extending the selection time because ALF couldn't send out the notification to himself that he's on the clock?

That's just funny to me.

He isn't able to post yet. I wanted to give him time to get his computer functional so he can make his choice. If he can't by this evening, then oh well. I'll be doing to notifications until further notice.

24champ
03-09-2009, 12:23 PM
I am at the stinking library, my laptop is fried. Don't know exactly what happened, but my windows XP stuff is basically gone. I can't reboot jack **** at this point. Whatever the virus/worm was, it essentially took away my ability to reboot the laptop back to normal. That didn't work...so I am going to leave this to the professionals.

Kaylore
03-09-2009, 12:46 PM
That's ok. We didn't have to wait to long and it didn't affect your selecting ability as it appears you landed one of the best safeties in the draft. Keep us updated.:thumbsup:

JCMElway
03-09-2009, 09:16 PM
How long does Boss Man have left?

socalorado
03-09-2009, 09:27 PM
How long does Boss Man have left?

I am ready to make my pick. Been checkin in all day periodically to do so. Just give me the go, and we move on...

JCMElway
03-09-2009, 09:31 PM
He has until 1:19 AM CST to select. You gonna be up that late?

socalorado
03-09-2009, 09:33 PM
He has until 1:19 AM CST to select. You gonna be up that late?

f-no! This is the problem with these things. Trust me, theres no way in hell hes takin my pick. This is a "reach" draft for me. I am taking players that i personally think are going to be good players, but wont be picked in the next 3 rounds at least.

Kaylore
03-09-2009, 11:48 PM
No he's done. We're on 12 hours for round two and ALF picked his at 11:20. You may select Socal.

24champ
03-10-2009, 12:34 AM
FYI to kahn and JCM... My laptop will be out of commision for the next 3-5 days. I recall FL bronco saying that he would help out with the draft. So I'm sure he would be happy to help you guys run this draft.

socalorado
03-10-2009, 06:57 AM
David Bruton will be the Tanard Jackson of this years draft. You heard it here 1st!!!

rugbythug
03-10-2009, 12:25 PM
How is Maybin Still availible? Must be a mistake. Maybe I missed him reading through the list?

Kaylore
03-10-2009, 12:39 PM
How is Maybin Still availible? Must be a mistake. Maybe I missed him reading through the list?

I didn't want to say anything, but you're the lucky guy to notice. BB took Ayers and Maybin is a better fit for the 3-4. Certainly the Browns could have used him too. I was this close for the Dolphins, but I figured Porter is good enough in that role and we needed more speed at receiver. and frankly Percy Harvin falling to me wasn't too bad either.

Well done, Rugbythugh.

Rohirrim
03-10-2009, 01:23 PM
Maybin is a bust.

BroncoBuff
03-10-2009, 01:29 PM
I hereby challenge BroncoBuff to a debate! He should immediately cough up that #34 pick to it's rightful owner, Rohirrim (choosing for the Pats). Why? Because of all the trouble that pick brought to this board, for one thing. Second, he has the luxury of knowing he doesn't need to pick a QB, which otherwise (of course), is a problem he would have had to deal with. So, he gets the benefit of knowing of the existence of the trade for Cassell and Vrabel, plus an extra second round pick?!! That's ridiculous. Finally, does anybody on this board really want to do the Chiefs any favors? Of course not. Gentleman of the OM II Draft Mock, I beg your indulgence.

I rest my case.

Thank you.

I didn't see this post until now ....

But, as you pointed out, there was actually an ADVANTAGE to my delay, to wit: In that day-and-a-half, two days I delayed, the chefs traded for Matt Cassel. Thus, I could make a more accurate choice for them at pick #3.

Now: See how I did that? See how I'm always looking on bright side of things? :sunshine:
.

Kaylore
03-10-2009, 02:04 PM
Maybin is a bust.

Then there's that.

Rohirrim
03-10-2009, 03:46 PM
I didn't see this post until now ....

But, as you pointed out, there was actually an ADVANTAGE to my delay, to wit: In that day-and-a-half, two days I delayed, the chefs traded for Matt Cassel. Thus, I could make a more accurate choice for them at pick #3.

Now: See how I did that? See how I'm always looking on bright side of things? :sunshine:
.

****ing lawyer. ;D

MagicHef
03-11-2009, 08:50 AM
I had no idea we were supposed to plan our draft picks' deaths. I have a lot more research to do.

Kaylore
03-11-2009, 09:20 AM
I had no idea we were supposed to plan our draft picks' deaths. I have a lot more research to do.

I do those mostly because I don't believe anybody reads them. :giggle:

I had to do a Caruso homage though. ;)

BowlenBall
03-11-2009, 10:06 AM
I had no idea we were supposed to plan our draft picks' deaths. I have a lot more research to do.

Yeah, this thing just gets more and more complicated every year.....

Kaylore
03-11-2009, 01:53 PM
The Mock draft I is putting in the projected comp picks based on the recent article that came out.

My feeling is we (mock draft II) should stick with the "the draft is how it is when it started" plan, meaning we don't add them and leave the order the way it is. I am open to suggestions, though. Thoughts?

BowlenBall
03-11-2009, 08:38 PM
The Mock draft I is putting in the projected comp picks based on the recent article that came out.

My feeling is we (mock draft II) should stick with the "the draft is how it is when it started" plan, meaning we don't add them and leave the order the way it is. I am open to suggestions, though. Thoughts?

Since the comp picks don't kick in until the end of the 3rd round, and since this particular draft is moving slower than Christmas, why not just add in the official picks when they are announced? Anything that more closley replicates the real draft is my vote.

Kaylore
03-11-2009, 08:43 PM
Since the comp picks don't kick in until the end of the 3rd round, and since this particular draft is moving slower than Christmas, why not just add in the official picks when they are announced? Anything that more closley replicates the real draft is my vote.

That's one option. Does anyone know when they come out?

And now that we're rolling we're actually starting to catch up with the other draft. If maintain our current pace, we'd probably pass them in the fifth round. Just sayin' ;)

Rohirrim
03-11-2009, 09:50 PM
I vote for putting them in based on the article.

JCMElway
03-11-2009, 11:13 PM
The Broncos are very happy to get Sean Smith at #48. He's a tall DB who runs a 4.5. He can learn the CB position from Champ, or the safety position from Dawkins. Either way, a DB was needed, and Smith is a great value at 48.

Kaylore
03-11-2009, 11:20 PM
The Broncos are very happy to get Sean Smith at #48. He's a tall DB who runs a 4.5. He can learn the CB position from Champ, or the safety position from Dawkins. Either way, a DB was needed, and Smith is a great value at 48.

That would be so sick if we landed him, even if he is a dirty Ute. I'm a little miffed you got him, but I can't hold my breath. If the real draft goes anything like our two mock drafts, there will be some great players in round two.

Broncoman13
03-12-2009, 06:19 AM
That would be a great pick for the Broncos!!!

Anybody want to trade up to the 2nd round... Eagles pick is up for "sale"

JCMElway
03-12-2009, 11:18 AM
The Mock draft I is putting in the projected comp picks based on the recent article that came out.

My feeling is we (mock draft II) should stick with the "the draft is how it is when it started" plan, meaning we don't add them and leave the order the way it is. I am open to suggestions, though. Thoughts?

Kahn, you just want to pass Mock Draft I. Don't deny it! :wiggle:

The Broncos have no comp picks, so I do not care either way!

Kaylore
03-12-2009, 11:28 AM
Kahn, you just want to pass Mock Draft I. Don't deny it! :wiggle:

The Broncos have no comp picks, so I do not care either way!

:rofl: I admit it would be funny after the grief we took for how sloppy this thing started, but really I want to do as little changing as possible of the picks because every time something changes a bunch of people whine about it. However if everyone agrees to the comp picks we'll put them.

Pros: If you're one the teams with a comp pick you get more selections!

Cons: If you're not, it waters down the draft and reduces the quality of players available for you later in the draft.

Let the people decide.

Conklin
03-12-2009, 11:58 AM
i want comp picks, cowboys aint got **** for picks neways

Northman
03-13-2009, 09:49 AM
Solid pick Drek.

Rohirrim
03-13-2009, 09:51 AM
Don't the Pats get a comp pick in the third for Asante Samuels?

Kaylore
03-13-2009, 10:35 AM
Don't the Pats get a comp pick in the third for Asante Samuels?

We don't know yet. They might. We haven't decided yet. There was an article with projected compensation picks, but we haven't heard anything official yet. In fact we haven't decided yet if we're going to add the comp picks yet. I'm personally leaning toward yes, it it's official and everyone's on board. I need to hear from my partner ALF in running this draft to get his input first, though.

TheReverend
03-13-2009, 10:51 AM
This process is about realism, and comp picks will be in the actual draft. I don't see why we wouldn't include them...

Kaylore
03-13-2009, 10:58 AM
This process is about realism, and comp picks will be in the actual draft. I don't see why we wouldn't include them...

I could make a case for not changing it.


It's easier to not change and leave it the way it is.
There's questions over which list to use. Do we use some writer's opinion on what to expect or do we wait for the real one?
There will be whining. If we wait for the official one to come out and we draft "past" where the comp picks begin, do we start over? Do we add their missed third to the fourth round list? Do we just tell them to suck it up? People will complain. If we use the article and then the real one doesn't jive with what was projected, people will whine they got screwed. They'll say "I should have received a fourth!" or "The Patriots weren't supposed to get that many!!!!11!!"
It will water down the draft and make it drag out longer. Some people might not like this.
As realistic as it we'd like it to be, it's still a silly game and some people don't care enough to mess with it.


Having said that, I'm leaning toward yes, but there's some details to iron out and I could easily see why people would, for the sake of simplicity, say no.

brncs_fan
03-13-2009, 11:10 AM
I vote for no comp picks. I think it is unfair to the people who would get picks that we have already gone way past (i.e. someone gets a second round comp and we are in the fourth).

I say we just leave it as is and just have some fun instead of trying to make everything so ultra complicated.

Arkie
03-13-2009, 11:22 AM
4. It will water down the draft

Good points all around except this one, and that's just my personal opinion. I like the challenge of trying to draft in the same situation as the real teams. I can't go around beating my chest about a 7th round steal if we didn't keep the same order as the real draft. Like you said, some people may not like it watered down because it's more fun to draft better players.

Rohirrim
03-13-2009, 11:25 AM
We should make it as real as possible. If I don't get my comp picks, I kick somebody in the balls. :gripe:

Kaylore
03-13-2009, 11:34 AM
We should make it as real as possible. If I don't get my comp picks, I kick somebody in the balls. :gripe:

I'm not sure we can make it real unless we "pause" the draft until the comp picks come out and then resume. I don't think anyone wants to see that. And see that's the question. Which list do we use? If it's the projected one, its almost certainly going to have some errors against the real one. That in itself will cause people to cry foul and argue "the draft isn't real!"

Drek
03-13-2009, 12:07 PM
Solid pick Drek.

I'm happy with it. I think you could make an argument that Robiskie belongs in the top 5 WRs in this very good WR crop. His ceiling is probably lower than someone like Harvin or Heyward-Bey, but he's a proven commodity who has been productive at a big time school, has all the measureables, and is unquestionably going to handle himself like a pro from day one. He's a safe bet to be a solid #2 at worst, with the upside of possibly being a very good #2/decent #1 as his peak.

I was hoping to hit DT or C before the wave of good prospects (like Hood at DT or Mack/Unger at C) went off the board, but I couldn't see over picking a guy who should be an early 3rd when a late 1st/early 2nd value like Robiskie was still on the board.

24champ
03-13-2009, 11:30 PM
We don't know yet. They might. We haven't decided yet. There was an article with projected compensation picks, but we haven't heard anything official yet. In fact we haven't decided yet if we're going to add the comp picks yet. I'm personally leaning toward yes, it it's official and everyone's on board. I need to hear from my partner ALF in running this draft to get his input first, though.

UPDATE: My laptop is still at "geek squad"....god what a bunch of amateurs at that shop. I told them specifically what was wrong with my laptop and what they need to....apparently that's too much to understand. Haha. What a f***ing joke. Takes them 3 days to tell me what I already told them...sigh.

Anyway I'm going to pick up my piece of crap tomorrow and then get a new laptop. Probably a Sony...**** dell.


Alright my take on the comp picks is it would be more interesting if we "paused the draft" and waited for the real comp picks to be announced. However do we have enough time to continue on? I'm onboard with the comp. Picks side...just wondering how it would work?

JCMElway
03-14-2009, 01:24 AM
I wouldn't pause the draft, then you run the risk of not finishing before the real draft. The comp picks won't come out until March 31st, if I'm not mistaken. If we use the projected comps, they're only gonna be off by one round tops. So someone gets an extra third instead of a 4th. Whoopee!

Rohirrim
03-14-2009, 04:18 AM
I'm not sure we can make it real unless we "pause" the draft until the comp picks come out and then resume. I don't think anyone wants to see that. And see that's the question. Which list do we use? If it's the projected one, its almost certainly going to have some errors against the real one. That in itself will cause people to cry foul and argue "the draft isn't real!"

I agree with JCM. Let's just use a good projection and go for it. :thumbs:

Rohirrim
03-14-2009, 05:15 AM
Here it is as Eddie Mac posted it in OM Draft 1. Are us guys in OM Draft II going to let them have all the fun?

THIRD ROUND
New England (Asante Samuel, $9.3567 million per season, 15 GP/15 GS, Pro Bowl)
Pittsburgh (Alan Faneca, $7.8 million, 16/16, Pro Bowl)
Cincinnati (Justin Smith, $7 million, 16/16) – possibly a fourth-round pick
Arizona (Calvin Pace, $6.75 million, 16/16) – possibly a fourth-round pick

FOURTH ROUND
Chicago (Bernard Berrian, $6.9 million, 16/13) – possibly a third-round pick
N.Y. Giants (Gibril Wilson, $6.5008 million, 16/15) – possibly a third-round pick
San Diego (Michael Turner, $5.75 million, 16/16, Pro Bowl) – possibly a third-round pick
San Diego (Drayton Florence, $5.9333 million, 15/8)
Tennessee (Antwan Odom, $5.9 million, 12/8)
Indianapolis (Jake Scott, $4.8 million, 16/16) – possibly a fifth-round pick

FIFTH ROUND
San Francisco (Kwame Harris, $4.6667 million, 14/11)
New England (Donte Stallworth, $4.5393 million, 11/7)
Dallas (Jacques Reeves, $4 million, 16/16) – possibly a sixth-round pick
Tennessee (Travis LaBoy, $4.4 million, 13/12) – possibly a sixth-round pick


SIXTH ROUND
Tennessee (Randy Starks, $3.885 million, 16/4)
New England (Randall Gay, $3.3125 million, 14/13)
Dallas (Julius Jones, $2.9 million, 15/10)
Cincinnati (Landon Johnson, $2.733 million, 15/0) – possibly a seventh-round pick
San Francisco (Marques Douglas, $2.525 million, 16/0) – possibly a seventh-round pick

SEVENTH ROUND
Tennessee (Ben Hartsock, $2.25 million, 11/11)
Washington (Mark Brunell, $1.755 million, 2/0)
Seattle (Chuck Darby, $1.467 million, 15/15)
Seattle (Ellis Wyms, $1.4 million, 16/0)
Chicago (John Gilmore, $1.333 million, 16/10)
Seattle (Kevin Bentley, $1.3 million, 16/7)
Chicago (Brendon Ayanbadejo, $1.223 million, 16/0, Pro Bowl)
Seattle (D.J. Hackett, $1.2 million, 9/2)
Jacksonville (Terry Cousin, $1.115 million, 16/0)
Detroit (net-value comp pick, lost three for $10.721 million, 38/22; signed three for $7.134 million, 42/31)
Detroit (non-compensatory pick)
Kansas City (non-compensatory pick)
St. Louis (non-compensatory pick)

Kaylore
03-15-2009, 12:04 PM
I love the stem cell research goals of the Arizona Cardinals. Very forward thinking approach to this.

JCMElway
03-15-2009, 12:21 PM
Kaylore, we adding the comps? Just want to know if I hafta update the board.

Florida_Bronco
03-15-2009, 12:24 PM
My pick will be in shortly.

TheReverend
03-15-2009, 01:06 PM
I love the stem cell research goals of the Arizona Cardinals. Very forward thinking approach to this.

Your bloody fetuses (feti?) = our :lombardi:

Kaylore
03-15-2009, 11:05 PM
Kaylore, we adding the comps? Just want to know if I hafta update the board.

Not sure yet. We have some time as comp picks are at the end. I'm going to so hold on for right now. The official one should come out the 27th so that's not too long to wait. I'm leaning toward adding them, but debating whether to pause the draft after the last "real" pick is made in the third and then resuming them once the official ones are released. That or just add the projected ones.

24champ
03-15-2009, 11:37 PM
Be making my pick shortly.

24champ
03-16-2009, 12:00 AM
What the hell is going on?

We got two different things here, I was told Buff was on the clock, but the list says I am....and Shonn Greene was #1 on my draft list. What the....

Anyway as Commish of the second draft, I award myself a Comp pick for this eff up. :)

Florida_Bronco
03-16-2009, 12:03 AM
Yeah ALF, like I said in the other thread when I checked the round 3 draft order as I was making my pick, I could have sworn BroncoBuff was the one listed after me.

I don't know if the list was wrong and then corrected or if I just had a brain fart, but if it was my fault I apologize.

JCMElway
03-16-2009, 12:07 AM
I believe ALF's time had expired. We can check the clock. Kaylore, please pick up a white courtesy phone.....

24champ
03-16-2009, 12:09 AM
I believe ALF's time had expired. We can check the clock. Kaylore, please pick up a white courtesy phone.....

Nope, I had a couple hours left...

JCMElway
03-16-2009, 12:42 AM
Everyone, please post the time you made a selection at the end of your post to avoid future mishaps!

24, sorry you didn't get your guy.....

24champ
03-16-2009, 12:46 AM
Everyone, please post the time you made a selection at the end of your post to avoid future mishaps!

24, sorry you didn't get your guy.....

It's all good, I got a better selection after going through who got picked on my board...I thought Duke Robinson was already taken but guess not.

So far...

1. OT Jason Smith Baylor
2. S Louis Delmas Western Michigan
3. OG Duke Robinson Oklahoma

Im getting that O-line addressed.

Kaylore
03-17-2009, 09:25 AM
How would you guys feel about throttling down the selections to 24 hours per pick until the official list comes out next week?

JCMElway
03-17-2009, 11:26 PM
OK, I just settled on who I'll take for the Broncs 3rd rounder. NO ONE TAKE MY GUY!

There are only 4 picks in front of me, it shouldn't be that hard.

JCMElway
03-18-2009, 05:09 PM
We have lacked killer speed on the D for a while, but we're bringing it back with Gerald McRath. He has a 4.49 in the 40 and is just a playmaker. Yes, he is undersized, but he'll be a fantastic fit in the new 3-4 scheme.

He also has a lanky frame to fill out into (He was a junior and just added about pounds,) so we can keep him at 232 to play WOLB, or he may be able to get up to 245 or so and then move inside.

JCMElway
03-21-2009, 10:31 AM
Bump

Kaylore
03-22-2009, 01:44 PM
We need to consider replacing Jebures. Does anyone want his spot? It's been days and he hasn't made his pick yet.

ludo21
03-22-2009, 07:09 PM
JCM asked me to take over BFDD spot as the Giants, and I accepted the offer.

Could someone please show me who he has selected so far and what picks the Giants have left. Thank you.

JCMElway
03-22-2009, 07:20 PM
JCM asked me to take over BFDD spot as the Giants, and I accepted the offer.

Could someone please show me who he has selected so far and what picks the Giants have left. Thank you.

BFDD PMed me to let me know that his Father had passed away, so he will not be continuing in the mocks this year.

JCMElway
03-22-2009, 07:21 PM
We need to consider replacing Jebures. Does anyone want his spot? It's been days and he hasn't made his pick yet.

Kahn, now you know my pain......

JCMElway
03-22-2009, 07:22 PM
Ludo, the updated list is on page 5 of the The OM Mock Draft II 2009 Thread.

BowlenBall
03-24-2009, 12:41 AM
Looks like the comp picks are quite a bit different from what we projected -- it ended up being a good decision to wait until the official list came out.

For next year, I'd like to propose the following:

1) The real comp picks should be added when they are announced, just like we did in the OM mock II -- the whole point is to create a simulation of the real thing, right? The OM Mock I is now a bit compromised (in my favor, admittedly, but still....)

2) If anyone misses their pick, they should not be eligible for next year's draft. It's getting ridiculous in Mock II -- and no, there's no excuse for it, because you can always PM your picks to JCM or Kaylore ahead of time if you know you're going to be away from the computer for a while. (none of this "I went camping", "I went out for dinner", "I had to study", "The dog ate my draft board" crap....)

Whaddaya think?

Rohirrim
03-24-2009, 06:57 AM
The Patsies would completely replenish their LB corps with the addition of Matthews and McKillop. These are two guys I would like to see in the O&B.

BowlenBall
03-24-2009, 07:14 AM
Great, great, great pick of McKillop -- color me pissed off that you got to him before I did.

Rohirrim
03-24-2009, 08:21 AM
Oh, and BTW, this girl needs to be adopted as the Official Bronco Girl of the Orange Mane:
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/image.php?u=3933dateline=1236385777

Arkie
03-24-2009, 10:51 AM
With the 86th pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, the Miami Dolphins are pleased to select

CB from Virginia Tech
Victor "Macho" Harris

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/56/563213.jpg

Miami will use his "Macho" style in their marketing campaign as they have a large Cuban populace to appease. Huge billboards of Macho's mexi-stache will be put all over the city. It will be awesome. People will visit just to see the mustache. People who don't like it are probably communists and Fidel can piss off.

I can dig it :pimp: He definitely has the pimp juice for Vice City. That cat still owe me some money tho'

http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2007/08/27/PH2007082701664.jpg

Killericon
03-29-2009, 06:24 PM
Maybe a reach, but I needed the best WR on the board.

24champ
03-30-2009, 10:19 PM
Sorry for being MIA guys!

I have been living the fast life in Los Angeles/Santa Barbara and Las Vegas for the last two weeks. :)

I just got back into Denver this evening so things will slow down, I hope.

BowlenBall
03-31-2009, 05:27 AM
Sorry for being MIA guys!

I have been living the fast life in Los Angeles/Santa Barbara and Las Vegas for the last two weeks. :)

I just got back into Denver this evening so things will slow down, I hope.

So....

I notice you didn't make your pick...

Ahem... Ahem...

(crickets chirping)

Kaylore
03-31-2009, 09:05 AM
So....

I notice you didn't make your pick...

Ahem... Ahem...

(crickets chirping)

LOL I know! In the name of all that is holy on Melmac, pick damnit!

Kaylore
03-31-2009, 09:08 AM
Looks like the comp picks are quite a bit different from what we projected -- it ended up being a good decision to wait until the official list came out.

For next year, I'd like to propose the following:

1) The real comp picks should be added when they are announced, just like we did in the OM mock II -- the whole point is to create a simulation of the real thing, right? The OM Mock I is now a bit compromised (in my favor, admittedly, but still....)

2) If anyone misses their pick, they should not be eligible for next year's draft. It's getting ridiculous in Mock II -- and no, there's no excuse for it, because you can always PM your picks to JCM or Kaylore ahead of time if you know you're going to be away from the computer for a while. (none of this "I went camping", "I went out for dinner", "I had to study", "The dog ate my draft board" crap....)

Whaddaya think?

I agree with both of these. I really like that we waited for the official list to come out. And I think if you can't commit to checking your PM box once a day, then maybe doing one of these isn't for you.

I know a lot of people were doing it to help the rest of us out by filling up the roster, so since mock II had some volunteer filler, it's understandable this happened. But I do think having more people picking on time makes it better and less garbled.

24champ
04-01-2009, 10:03 PM
LOL I know! In the name of all that is holy on Melmac, pick damnit!

I am still involved in the draft, your not replacing me.

Rohirrim
04-04-2009, 11:44 AM
Nic Harris is a tough guy to figure when it comes to this draft. I think he could do well in the same kind of Rodney Harrison type position on the Pats, as long as he gets some protection behind him. He's great against the run. He seems like this year's WW.

JCMElway
04-04-2009, 09:50 PM
Great job getting picks in everyone. We're clipping right along!

Rohirrim
04-09-2009, 11:52 AM
Here's my comment about Fienga, JCM; Has he ever played DT? ;D

Kaylore
04-09-2009, 02:18 PM
Go Cougars, go! If there's anything this draft has taught me it's that we need to do it with the hardcore maners exclusively. We can't run it with people that check in on the mane once a week.

JCMElway
04-09-2009, 02:38 PM
Here's my comment about Fienga, JCM; Has he ever played DT? ;D

No, but my earlier pick in the 5th, Terrance Knighton does! :strong:

Rohirrim
04-09-2009, 02:44 PM
At 6'4", 337 with nimble feet, I would try to convince the guy to give it a shot. Make a hell of a lot more money playing DT than guard.

JCMElway
04-09-2009, 02:55 PM
I'll go talk to Mike Nolan. We'll make it happen

Kaylore
04-10-2009, 10:39 PM
Philly has a ton of picks!

BowlenBall
04-11-2009, 03:09 AM
Allright boys -- in the OM Mock Draft II, we've got just over 14 days to make just over 100 picks.

For those of you that are math challenged, that means we need to make 7.15 picks per day to finish before the real draft starts.

Let's go -- make those picks, FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kaylore
04-11-2009, 10:20 PM
Hey we need someone to fill in for Northman who has formally bowed out.

BroncoBuff
04-14-2009, 12:28 AM
With the 139th pick in the 2009 draft, the kanzis sch!tty chefs select:

Travis Beckum
TE - Wisconsin

Fast and an excellent route-runner, Beckum has soft hands and catches a high percentage of first downs. Not a great blocker, but Brad Cottam - the 2nd year chefs tight end from Tennessee - is an excellent blocker. Sometimes it takes two players to replace a legend, and now the Chefs now have a 1-2 punch ... a poor man's Graham-Scheffler combo.

The new regime can now trade or release 14-year, high-cap high-salary Tony Gonzalez.


NAILED it ... TG cleaned out his chefs locker today, Monday 4/13.

I hate to say it, but me and the chefs are KILLING in this mock! ::)

1. Aaron Curry OLB - Wake Forest - The #1 best-bet impact player in the draft
2. Robert Ayers DE - Tennessee - Solid Mike Rucker-type, a born 3-4 strongside DE
3. Shonn Green RB - Iowa - Touchdown maker and a winner ... Bye-bye LJ :welcome:
4. Mike Mickens CB - Cincy - Odd he was even there, he's going in 2nd/3rd rounds in other mocks
5. Travis Beckum TE - Wisconsin - Fast, pass-catching TE, poor man's Scheffler ...Bye-bye TG :welcome:
6. George Hypolite - Colorado -Quick pass-rushing DT in college ... quick, pass-rushing 3-4 DE in NFL


Now watch somebody take Hypolite to ruin it ... :moody:

BroncoBuff
04-14-2009, 12:47 AM
Two guys - Ayers and Beckum - are ranked #1 at ther positions in this draft at this site:

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3003/31213078.jpg


Although this weird site ranks Aaron Curry just the #4 OLB in the draft ... http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/2009/profiles.cfm?pos=OLB

Kaylore
04-14-2009, 12:40 PM
We still need a replacement for Northman. Also who's for making the next few rounds six hours? I'll need help notifying people...

BowlenBall
04-14-2009, 12:59 PM
We still need a replacement for Northman. Also who's for making the next few rounds six hours? I'll need help notifying people...

6 hours is a great idea -- even if a few of us miss our pick, it'll speed things up by having a couple of people "on the clock" simultaneously.

No matter how you slice it, we're in trouble in OM Mock Draft II -- next year, we'll might have to have an invitation only draft to weed out the nimrods....

Kaylore
04-14-2009, 01:03 PM
6 hours is a great idea -- even if a few of us miss our pick, it'll speed things up by having a couple of people "on the clock" simultaneously.

No matter how you slice it, we're in trouble in OM Mock Draft II -- next year, we'll might have to have an invitation only draft to weed out the nimrods....
I agree. I think a lot of the hiccups were a result of delays and whatnot. The big thing will be whether to have compensatory picks or not. My vote is to either use the official ones or none at all because the projected were so far off from the real ones.

Regardless we're going to plow through and if you make your pick, great. If not, too bad.

Rohirrim
04-14-2009, 06:21 PM
I think Lee Robinson, LB, Alcorn State, is a good sleeper pick for the Broncos if he's still on the board in the fifth round. I see him as beefing up and playing inside. He could be a jewel in the rough.

ludo21
04-14-2009, 11:18 PM
I really liked my Richard Quinn (TE) pick from North Carolina.

They had 3 great WR and he didnt get a lot of looks, but I think he will make a team in the NFL very happy with his ability to block and catch.

BroncoBuff
04-16-2009, 01:18 AM
Jeepers, Khan gave me a hard time for jumping one guy .... it's the 6th round, ferhevvinsake.

JCMElway
04-16-2009, 09:34 AM
Khan runs this mock with an iron fist!

BroncoBuff
04-16-2009, 10:45 AM
1. Aaron Curry OLB - Wake Forest - The #1 best-bet impact player in the draft
2. Robert Ayers DE - Tennessee - Solid Mike Rucker-type, a born 3-4 strongside DE

These two picks pretty much made me sick to my stomach.

Really? How in the world can you not like Aaron Curry?

And Robert Ayers is shooting up the boards ... NFLDraftCountdown.com and an ESPN mock even have Ayers going to Denver at #18. NFLDraftScout projects him between #9 and #32 .... and I got him for you at #34.

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8104/52183352.jpg


Every single guy I drafted for you (except Curry) I got higher than they're projected. Every single one. Some MUCH higher.

You just can't please some people .... :oyvey:

Kaylore
04-16-2009, 11:09 AM
Khan runs this mock with an iron fist!

LOL We've had two people jump. I just asked that we try and keep order. Good grief, I didn't threaten or demean anyone.

Sorry if I hurt your feeling BB. I thought since you pointed it out to me you weren't going to be upset about it.

BroncoBuff
04-16-2009, 11:14 AM
LOL We've had two people jump. I just asked that we try and keep order. Good grief, I didn't threaten or demean anyone.

Sorry if I hurt your feeling BB. I thought since you pointed it out to me you weren't going to be upset about it.

No no ... all in fun. I'm still feeling guily about my early-round delay when I was looking in Mock #1. ::)

BroncoBuff
04-16-2009, 11:29 AM
1. Aaron Curry OLB - Wake Forest - The #1 best-bet impact player in the draft
2. Robert Ayers DE - Tennessee - Solid Mike Rucker-type, a born 3-4 strongside DE

These two picks pretty much made me sick to my stomach.

Whaaat?!

I HOOKED YOU UP, B!TCH!


1. Aaron Curry OLB - Wake Forest - The #1 best-bet impact player in the draft
2. Robert Ayers DE - Tennessee - Solid Mike Rucker-type, a born 3-4 strongside DE
3. Shonn Green RB - Iowa - Touchdown maker and a winner ... Bye-bye LJ :welcome:
4. Mike Mickens CB - Cincy - Odd he was even there, he's going in 2nd/3rd rounds in other mocks
5. Travis Beckum TE - Wisconsin - Fast, pass-catching TE, poor man's Scheffler ...Bye-bye TG :welcome:
6. Brandon Gibson WR - Wash St - All-Time Wazoo records, great routes, soft hands, complements Bowe
7. George Hypolite DT - Colorado - Quick pass-rushing DT in college - quick, pass-rushing 3-4 DE in NFL


That is a ROCK STAR draft ... every player except Curry was a bargain compared to where they're projected ... Robert Ayers is projected mid-1st, Mickens and Green are both 2nd/3rd round guys, Beckum is the #1 recieving TE in the draft (perfect complement to Cottam, a poor man's Graham-Scheffler combo ... and btw, in making that pick I correctly predicted the new regime should move TG out ... TG left 4 days later), and finally Brandon Gibson is a disciplined WR who imo will have a long career in the league as a #3 or maybe even starting opposite Bowe.



http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3003/31213078.jpg

This draft is better than you deserve.

Bob's your Information Minister
04-16-2009, 11:20 PM
OK, let me explain, Buff.

At #3, Curry is a huge reach for the Chiefs. Yes, they're going to need an inside linebacker to replace Zach Thomas soon enough. But unless the guy is a guaranteed Hall of Famer, he's not worth the #3 pick. He's not worth the $60 million contract.

If he was an outside linebacker/pass rusher in the 3-4, he'd be worth that pick. But he's not. He's not worth that pick. Not even close.

Robert Ayers smells a lot like Tamba Hali. He's not a 3-4 DE, that's for sure. Is he a 3-4 OLB? Maybe. I'd rather have Everette Brown, though. I don't see a lot of point in picking Ayers with Hali on the roster.

BroncoBuff
04-16-2009, 11:36 PM
OK, let me explain, Buff.

At #3, Curry is a huge reach for the Chiefs. Yes, they're going to need an inside linebacker to replace Zach Thomas soon enough. But unless the guy is a guaranteed Hall of Famer, he's not worth the #3 pick. He's not worth the $60 million contract.

If he was an outside linebacker/pass rusher in the 3-4, he'd be worth that pick. But he's not. He's not worth that pick. Not even close.

Robert Ayers smells a lot like Tamba Hali. He's not a 3-4 DE, that's for sure. Is he a 3-4 OLB? Maybe. I'd rather have Everette Brown, though. I don't see a lot of point in picking Ayers with Hali on the roster.

Well said, points taken ... but I thought Curry was an OLB? ???

I still think I KILLED for yous guys.

Bob's your Information Minister
04-16-2009, 11:46 PM
Curry was a 4-3 OLB.

3-4 OLBs taken at #3 need to be Shawne Merriman.

Kaylore
04-16-2009, 11:51 PM
I really hope the Chiefs don't take the best player in the draft in Aaron Curry. I don't think they're that stupid, though.

Bob's your Information Minister
04-17-2009, 12:01 AM
I really hope the Chiefs don't take the best player in the draft in Aaron Curry. I don't think they're that stupid, though.

Curry isn't the best player in the draft.

BroncoBuff
04-17-2009, 12:41 AM
Curry isn't the best player in the draft.

You have a right to think that ... but most commentators say he is.

Bob's your Information Minister
04-17-2009, 12:50 AM
You have a right to think that ... but most commentators say he is.

Stafford is the best player in the draft. Then Sanchez.

If I was building a team I'd rather have Monroe or Smith first at LT (left tackle isn't a need for the Chiefs obviously) after that.

Then I'd think about taking Curry.

24champ
04-17-2009, 12:55 AM
Stafford is the best player in the draft. Then Sanchez.

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This coming from a guy that has pimped Brodie Croyle as the next Montana? Hilarious!

BroncoBuff
04-17-2009, 01:02 AM
I'd rather have Monroe or Smith first at LT (left tackle isn't a need for the Chiefs obviously).

No no, you're right. You do need a left tackle.

Right now you have that guard from Virginia playing LT ... and it's always best not to play guys outta position. Branden Albert is a fine guard.

Florida_Bronco
04-17-2009, 01:33 AM
This coming from a guy that has pimped Brodie Croyle as the next Montana? Hilarious!

OUCH!


That will leave a mark.

Bob's your Information Minister
04-17-2009, 01:58 AM
No no, you're right. You do need a left tackle.

Right now you have that guard from Virginia playing LT ... and it's always best not to play guys outta position. Branden Albert is a fine guard.

Don't be a retard.

24champ
04-17-2009, 10:57 AM
Actually Bob....never go full retard.


It's apparent you have been going full retard.

TheReverend
04-17-2009, 11:02 AM
Well said, points taken ... but I thought Curry was an OLB? ???

I still think I KILLED for yous guys.

You did. Personally I probably would've tagged one of the premier OL at #3, but Ayers in the 2nd was a steal as I said it was at the time. He's perfect for a 4-3 but he can still develop into a very solid and impact DE or OLB with a patient franchise.

Shonn Greene must die though.

JCMElway
04-19-2009, 07:44 AM
OK all, who do we fill in for Tampa's picks in the 6th and 7th rounds? Let's hear it!

Drek
04-19-2009, 08:33 AM
Well said, points taken ... but I thought Curry was an OLB? ???

I still think I KILLED for yous guys.

He is. He's played SOLB pretty much his entire collegiate career.

He can play any LB spot in the 3-4, but with how hard it is to find a truly versatile 3-4 SOLB who can rush the passer, stuff the run, and cover a TE down field you just have to love a guy like Curry in that role.

I hope KC thinks like Bobo. No Curry because its too early to take a LB. No LT because Brandon Albert might be acceptable there (versus a franchise LG with a franchise LT in Smith or Monroe next to him). Who do they take then? Orakpo? I'll laugh my ass off if that happens.

Kaylore
04-19-2009, 09:02 AM
goWyo and Expatfan offered. I say first one to post both of Tampa bay's picks gets to finish the draft for them. The race is on!:welcome:

BowlenBall
04-19-2009, 09:25 AM
Hmmm.... Here's my recommendation for Tampa Bay's picks (155 and 175 overall):

155 - CB Captain Munnerlyn, South Carolina (Best Player Available, fits a need)
175 - TE Cameron Morrah, California (Best Player Available)

Tampa Bay Team Needs (as per www.draftcountdown.com (http://www.draftcountdown.com))

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="95%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR class=just><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; PADDING-TOP: 4px" bgColor=#e6e6e6>1. Defensive Line: Kevin Carter isn't with the team anymore and Greg "Stylez G." White took a big step backwards last year so outside of young star Gaines Adams the cupboard is pretty bare.</TD><TR class=just><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; PADDING-TOP: 4px" bgColor=#fbf7f7>2. Cornerback: Aqib Talib looks like a keeper but Phillip Buchanon was lost as a free agent, Ronde Barber is now 34-years-old and their overall depth is, to put it politely , extremely questionable.</TD><TR class=just><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; PADDING-TOP: 4px" bgColor=#e6e6e6>3. Wide Receiver: Antonio Bryant was franchised and Michael Clayton was re-signed but Joey Galloway and Ike Hilliard were both sent packing and they need to bring in some more weapons.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Just a suggestion -- if anyone's got a better idea, go ahead and chime in....

GoHAM
04-19-2009, 10:12 AM
Hmmm.... Here's my recommendation for Tampa Bay's picks (155 and 175 overall):

155 - CB Captain Munnerlyn, South Carolina (Best Player Available, fits a need)
175 - TE Cameron Morrah, California (Best Player Available)

Tampa Bay Team Needs (as per www.draftcountdown.com (http://www.draftcountdown.com))

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="95%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR class=just><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; PADDING-TOP: 4px" bgColor=#e6e6e6>1. Defensive Line: Kevin Carter isn't with the team anymore and Greg "Stylez G." White took a big step backwards last year so outside of young star Gaines Adams the cupboard is pretty bare.</TD><TR class=just><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; PADDING-TOP: 4px" bgColor=#fbf7f7>2. Cornerback: Aqib Talib looks like a keeper but Phillip Buchanon was lost as a free agent, Ronde Barber is now 34-years-old and their overall depth is, to put it politely , extremely questionable.</TD><TR class=just><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; PADDING-TOP: 4px" bgColor=#e6e6e6>3. Wide Receiver: Antonio Bryant was franchised and Michael Clayton was re-signed but Joey Galloway and Ike Hilliard were both sent packing and they need to bring in some more weapons.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Just a suggestion -- if anyone's got a better idea, go ahead and chime in....

Post them up!

Kaylore
04-19-2009, 02:20 PM
Yeah Expatfan, put it up. Or GoWyo. One of you do it.

Rohirrim
04-19-2009, 05:47 PM
Cary Harris has been picked twice, by Green Bay first and then by Sandy Eggo.

Kaylore
04-19-2009, 09:04 PM
Cary Harris has been picked twice, by Green Bay first and then by Sandy Eggo.

Also, why is dekers "on the clock"? It hasn't been six hours yet...

BowlenBall
04-20-2009, 11:41 AM
Anyone else notice that Brandon Gibson was taken in both the 3rd and 6th rounds?

Kaylore
04-20-2009, 12:01 PM
Anyone else notice that Brandon Gibson was taken in both the 3rd and 6th rounds?

Yes and BroncoBuff told me in a PM two days he was going to fix it and he still hasn't for some reason.

Kaylore
04-20-2009, 03:12 PM
So...the draft is in a few days. We'll likely be in the middle of the the seventh round when it hits. This begs the question of what do we do about?

Here are some options.


Nothing. Continue per normal. I'm a fan of this because it means we just plow ahead and if we get the benefit of seeing what these guys are really worth, so be it.
The Chinese fire drill option. This means we basically stop the draft on Thursday night and then everyone left is on the clock at the same time. You get your pick in, as fast as you can. If someone posted it before you, then you have to change your pick. It's sort of a free for all and would theoretically end the draft swiftly.
Shorten the picks to three hours per selection in the seventh round. This would speed things along. My problem with this is I'd need help notifying people. I have a life too, you know.
Other. Please tell us!

Rohirrim
04-20-2009, 03:27 PM
I like #2. Sounds like fun. Ha!

BroncoBuff
04-20-2009, 03:28 PM
Yes and BroncoBuff told me in a PM two days he was going to fix it and he still hasn't for some reason.

I am now ....

brncs_fan
04-20-2009, 04:46 PM
Cary Harris has been picked twice, by Green Bay first and then by Sandy Eggo.

Fixed it.

24champ
04-20-2009, 04:50 PM
I like #2. Sounds like fun. Ha!

Yeah I want to do #2 as well.ROFL!

ludo21
04-20-2009, 05:04 PM
number 1 is fine by me.

But #2 is alright too, I will get my picks in fast! ;D

Kaylore
04-20-2009, 08:31 PM
Ok. We're going to go with number 2 but do it Friday. Everyone who hasn't picked yet will do a free for all to get their pick. I will set the time at 6:00 PM MT. If your little post reads 5:59 it doesn't count, so be aware. If someone posts the same player before you then you have to edit and reselect before someone else does. If your edited player is later than the original post of another player than you have to reselect. Anyone bothered by this? Speak up now.

BroncoBuff
04-20-2009, 09:06 PM
#2 .... I already knwo who I want anyway.

JCMElway
04-20-2009, 09:17 PM
Let's go #2! Yeah!!!

Kaylore
04-21-2009, 11:07 AM
What is going on with eddie mac? Does it really take him 18 hours to pick two players virtually back to back? We're on a tight schedule so I'm going to move to the next pick because this is ridiculous.

eddie mac
04-21-2009, 11:35 AM
What is going on with eddie mac? Does it really take him 18 hours to pick two players virtually back to back? We're on a tight schedule so I'm going to move to the next pick because this is ridiculous.

Sorry guys. Move on, pick will be made asap.

Kaylore
04-21-2009, 08:37 PM
You guys get ready to pick for Tampa Bay.

JCMElway
04-22-2009, 12:08 AM
I say Tampa selects Tim Jamison, DE, Michigan. Anyone else?

Kaylore
04-23-2009, 05:17 PM
Tampa's coming up so get ready whoever wants to pick for them.

JCMElway
04-23-2009, 05:47 PM
Tampa's coming up so get ready whoever wants to pick for them.

I say Tampa selects Tim Jamison, DE, Michigan. Anyone else?

GoHAM
04-23-2009, 10:01 PM
I say Tampa selects Tim Jamison, DE, Michigan. Anyone else?

How about Brandon Williams, DE, Texas Tech

Or a fattie DT for Bates' new defense like,

Vaughn Martin, DT, Western Ontario or

Antonio Dixon, DT, Miami ?

Go ahead and make the pick.

BowlenBall
04-23-2009, 10:28 PM
How about Brandon Williams, DE, Texas Tech

Or a fattie DT for Bates' new defense like,

Vaughn Martin, DT, Western Ontario or

Antonio Dixon, DT, Miami ?

Go ahead and make the pick.

Vaughn Martin sounds pretty interesting here.....

Kaylore
04-23-2009, 11:05 PM
Well Req's time is up at 1:00 AM so whoever wants to can make the pick for Tampa.

JCMElway
04-23-2009, 11:09 PM
I like Antonio Dixon. Had tons of potential before the injury. Whattaya say?

Kaylore
04-24-2009, 08:34 AM
Tampa's almost up again, guys.

Kaylore
04-24-2009, 06:07 PM
Make your picks! Make your picks!!! BLAARRRRGGGGG!!!!