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JCMElway
03-04-2009, 11:54 PM
Eddie Mac usually gets in here around 4 AM.

Broncoman13
03-05-2009, 06:33 AM
The Giants would've rather drafted a WR but with the run on receivers there wasn't a guy worth drafting in the first round at #29. The Giants felt they could move down a bit and secure another nice selection in the process. Meanwhile, the guy they would have selected at 29 is still available! Pettigrew would be a nice upgrade for the Giants. Boss does some similar things but Pettigrew is a much better receiver and a bit of an improvement in the blocking department as well. With the Giants power running game his blocking will be a welcome addition and allow them to continue to pound the ball with Brandon Jacobs. He will also provide Eli with a warm safety blank on third downs. The Giants have put themselves in a nice position with this being the first of four picks between pick #33 and #65!

Hopefully this thing will start to move a little more quickly now!

brncs_fan
03-05-2009, 06:36 AM
WOOHOO! We are in round two!

TheReverend
03-05-2009, 07:00 AM
The Giants would've rather drafted a WR but with the run on receivers there wasn't a guy worth drafting in the first round at #29. The Giants felt they could move down a bit and secure another nice selection in the process. Meanwhile, the guy they would have selected at 29 is still available! Pettigrew would be a nice upgrade for the Giants. Boss does some similar things but Pettigrew is a much better receiver and a bit of an improvement in the blocking department as well. With the Giants power running game his blocking will be a welcome addition and allow them to continue to pound the ball with Brandon Jacobs. He will also provide Eli with a warm safety blank on third downs. The Giants have put themselves in a nice position with this being the first of four picks between pick #33 and #65!

Hopefully this thing will start to move a little more quickly now!

Thought that was an excellent pick up for the G-Men. Great job, Oskie.

SoDak Bronco
03-05-2009, 07:45 AM
Nice Pick Oskie, and Happy Bday. I think Mr. Petigrew is going to be an instant impact and may make the pro bowl as a rookie.

SoDak Bronco
03-05-2009, 07:48 AM
Can we find someone to take STuno spot?

ludo21
03-05-2009, 07:51 AM
Great pick Eddie

Barwin to the Pats makes too much sense. He will be a great guy for that team.

Rohirrim
03-05-2009, 07:53 AM
The Dave sucks ass. :gripe:

TheDave
03-05-2009, 07:54 AM
The Dave sucks ass. :gripe:

Sorry boss just too much value to pass up... Now make your pick for gods sake ;D

Rohirrim
03-05-2009, 07:55 AM
What happened to the Lions pick? Who's up? What the hell is going on?

TheReverend
03-05-2009, 07:57 AM
Sorry boss just too much value to pass up... Now make your pick for gods sake ;D

Hehe, maybe they'll move him to tackle too... 8')

brncs_fan
03-05-2009, 08:01 AM
What happened to the Lions pick? Who's up? What the hell is going on?

Oskie and I traded. The Lions picked at 29 and the G-men picked at 33.

brncs_fan
03-05-2009, 08:04 AM
29 1-29 Lions -- brncs fan-- James Lauriniatis, LB, OSU
30 1-30 Titans - Stunodaking -- On the clock (Still)
31 1-31 Patriots - Eddie Mac -- Coonor Barwin, OLB, Cincy
32 1-32 Steelers - Expatfan -- Aaron Maybin, DE, Penn State

Round 2

33 2-1 Giants - Brndon Pettigrew, TE, OSU
34 2-2 Chiefs -- Max Unger, C, Oregon
35 2-3 Rams -- Rohirrim (On the clock!!!)
36 2-4 Browns -- Southstnd Junkie
37 2-5 Seahawks -- Socolorado
38 2-6 Bengals -- killericon
39 2-7 Jaguars -- Arkie
40 2-8 Raiders -- Rugbythug

eddie mac
03-05-2009, 08:06 AM
Great pick Eddie

Barwin to the Pats makes too much sense. He will be a great guy for that team.

Thanks Ludo. He was my first choice at 23 closely followed by Matthews so I knew I had a good shot of still picking him up by moving down to 31 and picking up another 4th in the process. Pettigrew was considered as well but with Chris Baker signing for the Pats they aren't too bad at TE now.

Rohirrim
03-05-2009, 08:10 AM
Sorry boss just too much value to pass up... Now make your pick for gods sake ;D

Actually, I take that back. The Rams signed Jason Brown from the Ravens. They would have no need of Unger. It's all good. ;D

brncs_fan
03-05-2009, 08:22 AM
Did Roh just come in, comment, and leave before making his pick?

What a silly goose.

SouthStndJunkie
03-05-2009, 08:38 AM
I like the Connor Barwin selection by New England.

Northman
03-05-2009, 09:03 AM
Honestly, I saw this happening when a bunch of people with >500 posts started volunteering for the mock draft while seasoned posters who have participated in the past were left out. That is how we ended up with two mock drafts instead of the usual one.

At the risk of sounding elitist and being bossy I didn't say anything but I seriously wondered how these people would perform when the time came.

Hopefully as the ones causing the problems are kicked out we can fill the spots with people who are going to take this seriously and get it going again because I am having a blast with it this year.


Actually, the biggest issue was the Vets wanting the same teams and thus they declined to participate. I understand why after talking to a few of them but initially they declined because they werent able to land their usual teams which lead to a lot of new faces.

Rohirrim
03-05-2009, 09:16 AM
Did Roh just come in, comment, and leave before making his pick?

What a silly goose.

I fart in your general direction. ;D

Two Ducks in a row.

Southstands, you're up.

TheReverend
03-05-2009, 09:16 AM
Chung off the board before Delmas!

Cats and dogs, living together... MASS HYSTERIA!

.............

Good player for you, Roh.

SouthStndJunkie
03-05-2009, 09:30 AM
The Browns were geeked to see LeSean McCoy still on the board at 36.

socolorado....you are on the clock now.

brncs_fan
03-05-2009, 09:44 AM
7 picks in >12 hours. Lets keep it going.

socalorado
03-05-2009, 09:55 AM
Chung off the board before Delmas!

Cats and dogs, living together... MASS HYSTERIA!

.............

Good player for you, Roh.

Chung AND Smith off the board before Delmas!

chaz
03-05-2009, 10:05 AM
Chung AND Smith off the board before Delmas!

Smith is a good pick

JCMElway
03-05-2009, 12:16 PM
Can we find someone to take STuno spot?

If anyone has any suggestions or someone who wants to jump in that's great. I have a PM out as well.

We also need to find a drafter for the Panthers. PM me if you have anyone.

Killericon
03-05-2009, 12:17 PM
My overall plan is to pour picks into the trenches. Seems like a good idea, no?

JCMElway
03-05-2009, 12:17 PM
BTW, we are on a 12 hour time clock now.

JCMElway
03-05-2009, 12:45 PM
Florida Bronco is taking over for the Titans. His pick will be in shortly.

Thanks Flo-B!

Florida_Bronco
03-05-2009, 01:32 PM
Thanks for bringing me in, JCM. Titan's pick is in. ^5

JCMElway
03-05-2009, 03:02 PM
We're cruising now. Good work everyone, let's keep it going!

ludo21
03-05-2009, 03:08 PM
The Titans pick was for Round 1 right??

If so.. Ziggy that early??

JCMElway
03-05-2009, 03:12 PM
Well, in reality the pick was made in the early to mid 2nd round because of FB coming in to help out after Stuno's no show. So Hood in the 2nd round is not that big of a reach to me.

Hey FB, if you could have made the pick on time, who would you have take at the end of the first?

ludo21
03-05-2009, 03:30 PM
Is Gerard done in JVille??

Im confused by that Freeman pick.. Explain!

Florida_Bronco
03-05-2009, 03:35 PM
Well, in reality the pick was made in the early to mid 2nd round because of FB coming in to help out after Stuno's no show. So Hood in the 2nd round is not that big of a reach to me.

Hey FB, if you could have made the pick on time, who would you have take at the end of the first?

Yeah, Hood in the 1st would have been a reach but by the time I got in we were at what...the 38th pick or so? Probably the range Hood will go in so I think I did alright there.

Had the pick been in on time...hmmm...good question. Probably William Beatty, although I would have tried to move back a slot or two to draft him.

Arkie
03-05-2009, 04:20 PM
Is Gerard done in JVille??

Im confused by that Freeman pick.. Explain!

I don't think Garrard is the long term answer for Jacksonville. Freeman was still there. He's a project, but a potential franchise QB. He needs a couple of years of seasoning under Garrard.

ludo21
03-05-2009, 04:56 PM
Solid pick Rugby, Johnson is a freak and will excel in a couple years Im sure.

What team are you tho, and who is on the clock>?

rugbythug
03-05-2009, 06:33 PM
Solid pick Rugby, Johnson is a freak and will excel in a couple years Im sure.

What team are you tho, and who is on the clock>?

The Raiders. And DBroncos4life. Thanks You know how Greasy al loves his speed guys.

chaz
03-05-2009, 09:11 PM
Freeman is a solid investment in the 2nd...

SouthStndJunkie
03-05-2009, 09:15 PM
Now the draft is moving along....let's keep up this pace.

ludo21
03-05-2009, 09:29 PM
Wow, Cook... we will see how good a pick that is. If I recall Packers have crap for TE so he might be able to see a lot of time right away.

Killericon
03-06-2009, 07:24 AM
Hey, ludo, your Adopt-a-Bronco is still Paul Ernster.

ludo21
03-06-2009, 08:01 AM
Hey, ludo, your Adopt-a-Bronco is still Paul Ernster.

Ya I know. Its been such a tough decision since then that I figured I would keep him until he comes back ;D

Btw, Robiskie should be a good WR in this league, I dont see much bust factor from him at all. Too bad no QB there will stunt his growth possibly.

Broncoman13
03-06-2009, 09:34 AM
DAMNIT! I offered Gyldenglove a trade this morning to move up 3 or 4 spots so that I could draft Robiskie! Never heard back from him... bastard!

brncs_fan
03-06-2009, 10:56 AM
DAMNIT! I offered Gyldenglove a trade this morning to move up 3 or 4 spots so that I could draft Robiskie! Never heard back from him... bastard!

You sir are a trade machine.

Rohirrim
03-06-2009, 01:49 PM
Oskie, don't pick until you look at your PMs. ;D

gyldenlove
03-06-2009, 05:13 PM
DAMNIT! I offered Gyldenglove a trade this morning to move up 3 or 4 spots so that I could draft Robiskie! Never heard back from him... bastard!

Sorry, I didn't get your message.

TheReverend
03-06-2009, 06:15 PM
Moore off the board.

I would've figured the Giants to target an OLB on day one, but Moore makes that secondary fierce and will free up a lot underneath.

Broncoman13
03-06-2009, 07:03 PM
Sorry, I didn't get your message.

It's okay, when I looked at the Orangemane again on my IPod thingy, it had a message saying that my PM to Gyldenglove was returned b/c GyldeNglove didn't exist. It was on me... you're not a bastard afterall. A F#@Khead for drafting Robiskie, but hey, who's perfect?

Broncoman13
03-06-2009, 07:08 PM
Moore off the board.

I would've figured the Giants to target an OLB on day one, but Moore makes that secondary fierce and will free up a lot underneath.

No way, the Giants don't need any LBs. They just signed Canty which allows Kiwanuka to move back to the Sam spot he played for most of 07. An eventual replacement for Antonio Pierce in the later rounds maybe, but right now I've got to address a few other positions first!

chaz
03-06-2009, 07:11 PM
Texans select Donald Brown, RB UConn

Slaton was the man last year but isn't built for 16 games...Brown will excel in the ZBS and was a great value at 46. The pair could become a very dynamic rushing attack opening things up for Andre, Schaub, & co.

TheReverend
03-06-2009, 07:15 PM
No way, the Giants don't need any LBs. They just signed Canty which allows Kiwanuka to move back to the Sam spot he played for most of 07. An eventual replacement for Antonio Pierce in the later rounds maybe, but right now I've got to address a few other positions first!

Kiwi wasn't that good at sam...

Secondly, he's more valuable as trade bait.

Blackburn and Clark are career scrubs. Maybe Deossie can develop, but a blue chip on the weakside would go a LONG ways for an already strong defense.

Broncoman13
03-06-2009, 07:35 PM
Kiwi wasn't that good at sam...

Secondly, he's more valuable as trade bait.

Blackburn and Clark are career scrubs. Maybe Deossie can develop, but a blue chip on the weakside would go a LONG ways for an already strong defense.

Hahaha, you're such an idiot if you think they need help at Linebacker. You have no hope! Check your rep btw.

eddie mac
03-06-2009, 07:40 PM
Patriots trade pick 47 for 66, 99, 130, 163 and 194.

Rams are now OTC.

eddie mac
03-06-2009, 07:46 PM
No way, the Giants don't need any LBs. They just signed Canty which allows Kiwanuka to move back to the Sam spot he played for most of 07. An eventual replacement for Antonio Pierce in the later rounds maybe, but right now I've got to address a few other positions first!

Kiwanuka's staying at DE. I think you meant the Michael Boley signing means less of a need for LB early in thiis draft.

SouthStndJunkie
03-06-2009, 07:49 PM
Patriots trade pick 47 for 66, 99, 130, 163 and 194.

Rams are now OTC.

Nice trade for you.

socalorado
03-06-2009, 07:55 PM
Patriots trade pick 47 for 66, 99, 130, 163 and 194.

Rams are now OTC.

Is Rohirim making his pick right now!?!?

eddie mac
03-06-2009, 07:57 PM
Is Rohirim making his pick right now!?!?

No idea. Roh pm'ed the offer. I accepted via pm and told him he was OTC.

TheReverend
03-06-2009, 07:58 PM
Hahaha, you're such an idiot if you think they need help at Linebacker. You have no hope! Check your rep btw.

omgz yur so dumb alexx

socalorado
03-06-2009, 08:01 PM
No idea. Roh pm'ed the offer. I accepted via pm and told him he was OTC.

Thanks. I would love to make my pick too!

Rohirrim
03-06-2009, 08:19 PM
Okay. I went crazy and got the last OT worth a damn. So shoot me. Seahawks are up.

gyldenlove
03-06-2009, 08:24 PM
I just want to blow my own trumpet for a minute, I think I have a pretty good draft so far. Eben Britton and Brian Robiskie, both will be impact players and both fill holes on an offense that is the only thing keeping the Vikings from greatness. With a head coach (unfortunately I can't draft Shanahan) who can call some offensive plays and a decent QB this team can go far.

eddie mac
03-06-2009, 08:25 PM
Okay. I went crazy and got the last OT worth a damn. So shoot me. Seahawks are up.

Not crazy at all. Meredith is great value there and was 1 of the guys I was considering.

socalorado
03-06-2009, 08:25 PM
Okay. I went crazy and got the last OT worth a damn. So shoot me. Seahawks are up.

Fuggin bastard!!!! That was my guy too! I have given up on drafting a OT. My other guy was still there though, so its not so bad.
Brace works for SEA too.

eddie mac
03-06-2009, 08:28 PM
WR and OT is getting a lot of love in this mock.

Rohirrim
03-06-2009, 08:29 PM
Not crazy at all. Meredith is great value there and was 1 of the guys I was considering.

So the Rams walk away with Crabtree, Chung and Meredith. Not a bad haul. ;D

socalorado
03-06-2009, 08:30 PM
So the Rams walk away with Crabtree, Chung and Meredith. Not a bad haul. ;D

Otogwe and Chung............f ***

Rohirrim
03-06-2009, 08:33 PM
Otogwe and Chung............f ***

:thumbs:

socalorado
03-06-2009, 08:34 PM
I PMed SoDak who has the #49th pick

chaz
03-06-2009, 10:42 PM
any thoughts on the Donald Brown pick for Houston? I was hesitant making the choice, but couldn't pass it up... Slaton and Brown would be the equivalent of a Deangelo/JStew calibur combo IMO and keep both healthy while taking pressure off of the passing game. Am I crazy?

NFLBRONCO
03-06-2009, 11:10 PM
What do you think of Miami's draft so far

Hakeem Nicks, WR, UNC
Larry English, DE, Northern Illinois

Broncoman13
03-06-2009, 11:38 PM
What do you think of Miami's draft so far

Hakeem Nicks, WR, UNC
Larry English, DE, Northern Illinois

Very nice! I think you got a great receiver in Nicks. His bowl game is something worth watching over and over!!! I don't know much about English other than he is highly thought of!

Broncoman13
03-06-2009, 11:40 PM
any thoughts on the Donald Brown pick for Houston? I was hesitant making the choice, but couldn't pass it up... Slaton and Brown would be the equivalent of a Deangelo/JStew calibur combo IMO and keep both healthy while taking pressure off of the passing game. Am I crazy?

Brown and Slaton are one and the same. If you wanted DAngelo/JStew you should have drafted someone like Andre Brown! Right now you have DeAngelo/DeAngelo... which isn't bad!!!

SoDak Bronco
03-07-2009, 06:40 AM
bears select Robert Eyers, i had to double and triple check that he wasn't already picked, not sure how he slipped in the draft so much, but he fits the scheme and should be a starter on this team.

Broncoman13
03-07-2009, 06:46 AM
Ayers timed speed is poor but he is a player... even if he is a one year wonder. More than a few players at the Sr. Bowl have commented on Ayers as being the most impressive player they watched at the game. To get him this late in the game is pretty damn good!

eddie mac
03-07-2009, 06:57 AM
Ayers timed speed is poor but he is a player... even if he is a one year wonder. More than a few players at the Sr. Bowl have commented on Ayers as being the most impressive player they watched at the game. To get him this late in the game is pretty damn good!

Yeah, he's Mayock's No1 DE on his board. I would've considered him but he doesn't fit a 3-4 at all. He's a pure 4-3 end.

SoDak Bronco
03-07-2009, 07:03 AM
sent a PM to Snarfalicious, yeah he is def. a 4-3 DE, Bears will be able to use him. Mark Anderson kinda had a sophomore slup, so they were happy to have him slide. I wanted to grab a WR or OT but they have been going fast and his value was to high to pass up.

Mediator12
03-07-2009, 07:14 AM
Okay. I went crazy and got the last OT worth a damn. So shoot me. Seahawks are up.

Dude, you are a mess ;D

Have a nice few weeks while the rest of us wait to draft! I hope STL has a good FA haul.

TheReverend
03-07-2009, 08:13 AM
sent a PM to Snarfalicious, yeah he is def. a 4-3 DE, Bears will be able to use him. Mark Anderson kinda had a sophomore slup, so they were happy to have him slide. I wanted to grab a WR or OT but they have been going fast and his value was to high to pass up.

Awesome pick. I LOVE Ayers.

gyldenlove
03-07-2009, 08:25 AM
Ayers played very inconsistent through the year, he really did well at the Sr bowl, but his combine was highly average.

TheReverend
03-07-2009, 08:42 AM
Ayers played very inconsistent through the year, he really did well at the Sr bowl, but his combine was highly average.

Do you mean inconsistent because he didn't start his jr year?

If so... he still lead the team in TFL and sacks. Also 3 picks.

His explosion alone makes him a great first day pick.

Broncoman13
03-07-2009, 09:58 AM
That's what is weird about Ayers. I wish somebody would post his split times. He ran a high 4.8 but I see the same thing with him in terms of explosiveness. 4.8 almost 4.9 speed doesn't scream explosive though!!

gyldenlove
03-07-2009, 10:21 AM
That's what is weird about Ayers. I wish somebody would post his split times. He ran a high 4.8 but I see the same thing with him in terms of explosiveness. 4.8 almost 4.9 speed doesn't scream explosive though!!

The best measure of explosiveness is the jumps, the first step. He was only average in that.

Here are his combine numbers:

Weight 40 yard 20 yard 10 yard bench reps Vert Broad Shuttle Cone
272 4.77 2.78 1.66 18 29 1/2 08'06" 4.51 7.58

For his weight and size he was average, compared to the smaller tweeners he was poor.

gyldenlove
03-07-2009, 10:26 AM
Do you mean inconsistent because he didn't start his jr year?

If so... he still lead the team in TFL and sacks. Also 3 picks.

His explosion alone makes him a great first day pick.

He had 1 interception and 3 sacks, not the stuff of legends, 2 against a Vandy team in the tank and 1 against Miss State. He is only 7 sacks short of what Fat Frank Okam had as a senior.

Except for a big game against Georgia, he was pretty quiet against top teams, he did most of his damage against bad teams.

JCMElway
03-07-2009, 10:34 AM
Comp Picks

When they announce compensatory picks for the NFL draft I will be adding them to the list. If someone has a comp pick but we are past that point in the draft, they may make their pick immediately.

The draft order remains frozen as far as NFL trades are concerned. I'm adding the comp picks because no one will have picks taken away, only added.

JCM

azbroncfan
03-07-2009, 11:17 AM
Eagles are getting screwed in this Draft with not getting the picks from the Lewis/shepperd trades.

TheReverend
03-07-2009, 12:40 PM
He had 1 interception and 3 sacks, not the stuff of legends, 2 against a Vandy team in the tank and 1 against Miss State. He is only 7 sacks short of what Fat Frank Okam had as a senior.

Except for a big game against Georgia, he was pretty quiet against top teams, he did most of his damage against bad teams.

Gotcha. I misread your post. Re-read and you're clearly talking about inconsistency his senior year. I think it's a valid point, though I'd knock his "finishing ability" rather than calling it "inconsistent". He's explosive and disruptive, and still very raw. I think he'll go a long ways.

TheReverend
03-07-2009, 12:42 PM
Eagles are getting screwed in this Draft with not getting the picks from the Lewis/shepperd trades.

It's two fifths... I wouldn't consider that "screwed"

gyldenlove
03-07-2009, 12:52 PM
Gotcha. I misread your post. Re-read and you're clearly talking about inconsistency his senior year. I think it's a valid point, though I'd knock his "finishing ability" rather than calling it "inconsistent". He's explosive and disruptive, and still very raw. I think he'll go a long ways.

Not a bad point. I definitely like his potential, he is a late bloomer who could become a really strong players. I have to admit I still think he will be a good player, but never a great player. I see him as Ekuban basicly, he brings it, he plays hard, he contributes, but he is never going to have 15 sacks in a season and he is never going to be a guy you game plan to avoid.

I am not so worried with DEs being one year wonders, unless they play next to a super DT their performance is much more based on their own abilities than almost any other position.

Tailbacks, quarterbacks, cornerbacks, safeties are the players I worry about for one year wonders, they are too dependent on other players, so if they only play well one year it is often because someone else made them look good.

TheReverend
03-07-2009, 12:56 PM
Not a bad point. I definitely like his potential, he is a late bloomer who could become a really strong players. I have to admit I still think he will be a good player, but never a great player. I see him as Ekuban basicly, he brings it, he plays hard, he contributes, but he is never going to have 15 sacks in a season and he is never going to be a guy you game plan to avoid.

I am not so worried with DEs being one year wonders, unless they play next to a super DT their performance is much more based on their own abilities than almost any other position.

Tailbacks, quarterbacks, cornerbacks, safeties are the players I worry about for one year wonders, they are too dependent on other players, so if they only play well one year it is often because someone else made them look good.

In bold will have to be where we differ. With some good effort and good coaching, I think he'll be the best 4-3 end in this entire draft.

eddie mac
03-07-2009, 01:06 PM
Eagles are getting screwed in this Draft with not getting the picks from the Lewis/shepperd trades.

You dont know the meaning of the word. I lost pick 34 ffs.:giggle:

eddie mac
03-07-2009, 01:25 PM
Comp Picks

When they announce compensatory picks for the NFL draft I will be adding them to the list. If someone has a comp pick but we are past that point in the draft, they may make their pick immediately.

The draft order remains frozen as far as NFL trades are concerned. I'm adding the comp picks because no one will have picks taken away, only added.

JCM

Hope this slows down well because they weren't officially released until 31 March last year and I dont want to miss out on another high pick coming my way for Asante Samuel.:~ohyah!:

ludo21
03-07-2009, 05:36 PM
Rashad before Delmas... interesting, but not too surprised. He will be a good one to replace Roy Williams up in D.

Broncoman13
03-07-2009, 05:58 PM
Rashad before Delmas... interesting, but not too surprised. He will be a good one to replace Roy Williams up in D.

If people are going to continue to name drop then I'm going to start dropping names too!!!

ludo21
03-07-2009, 06:00 PM
Crap is that a rule!! im sorry i had no idea!

BFDD
03-07-2009, 06:16 PM
I had nothing against the small school guy, I just think that defense guys from the SEC make better pro's

azbroncfan
03-08-2009, 07:23 AM
Rashad before Delmas... interesting, but not too surprised. He will be a good one to replace Roy Williams up in D.

I was going to take one of the 4 S's with my pick too so name dropping wasn't too big of a deal.

JCMElway
03-08-2009, 05:05 PM
Marcus Freeman to the Falcs

The Falcons have two big issues on defense coming into the draft; DT and LB.

Their longtime stalwarts Grady Jackson and Keith Brooking are gone. They also let their other starting OLB, Keith Boley, leave via free agency. Peria Jerry will be a fine replacement for Jackson, and Marcus Freeman will definitely help fill the void at LB. He is a quick, athletic guy who can play all three LB positions. I was a little sad that Sintim went before he got to me, but Freeman is very solid at #55 overall.

Broncoman13
03-08-2009, 06:56 PM
Marcus Freeman to the Falcs

The Falcons have two big issues on defense coming into the draft; DT and LB.

Their longtime stalwarts Grady Jackson and Keith Brooking are gone. They also let their other starting OLB, Keith Boley, leave via free agency. Peria Jerry will be a fine replacement for Jackson, and Marcus Freeman will definitely help fill the void at LB. He is a quick, athletic guy who can play all three LB positions. I was a little sad that Sintim went before he got to me, but Freeman is very solid at #55 overall.


I did all I could to trade up to around #50 to get one of those two guys.

ludo21
03-08-2009, 07:13 PM
Pat White may have been a reach but he would be a beast in that Wild Cat formation, almost impossible to stop.

And I really like that Nelson pick Northman. Under Heap he could really learn the ins and outs of being a TE in the NFL and then be ready to take over.

Northman
03-08-2009, 10:09 PM
And I really like that Nelson pick Northman. Under Heap he could really learn the ins and outs of being a TE in the NFL and then be ready to take over.



Yea, i dont know how much he will learn from Heap as Heap spends a lot of time being injured but I think Nelson could be a real weapon for Flacco regardless.

SouthStndJunkie
03-08-2009, 11:27 PM
Some good talent coming off the board right now in the middle/latter part of the 2nd round.

Broncoman13
03-09-2009, 06:50 AM
Yea, i dont know how much he will learn from Heap as Heap spends a lot of time being injured but I think Nelson could be a real weapon for Flacco regardless.

Nelson is the best TE in this draft, IMO. He is Tony Scheffler 2.0. Hopefully not with the injuries though.

ludo21
03-09-2009, 07:55 AM
Gilbert stock rises to the 2nd!

I was wondering where he would go in our draft.

eddie mac
03-09-2009, 09:02 AM
Gilbert stock rises to the 2nd!

I was wondering where he would go in our draft.

IMHO, if ourselves at 12 or the Chargers draft Jackson, Gilbert will be gone by the time the Steelers pick at 32. They need a long-term replacement now for Aaron Smith. I drafted him because there is a deep fear in NE that this will be Seymour's last season as a Patriot, he's the odd man out in the Warren/Wilfork/Seymour huge contract extension stakes.

TheReverend
03-09-2009, 09:04 AM
IMHO, if ourselves at 12 or the Chargers draft Jackson, Gilbert will be gone by the time the Steelers pick at 32. They need a long-term replacement now for Aaron Smith. I drafted him because there is a deep fear in NE that this will be Seymour's last season as a Patriot, he's the odd man out in the Warren/Wilfork/Seymour huge contract extension stakes.

They might all be on their way out of town.

It's the "Patriot Way", after all.

BowlenBall
03-09-2009, 09:42 AM
IMHO, if ourselves at 12 or the Chargers draft Jackson, Gilbert will be gone by the time the Steelers pick at 32. They need a long-term replacement now for Aaron Smith. I drafted him because there is a deep fear in NE that this will be Seymour's last season as a Patriot, he's the odd man out in the Warren/Wilfork/Seymour huge contract extension stakes.

Exactly right -- that was my target at #32, you bassage....

Mediator12
03-09-2009, 11:14 AM
OK, If the time runs out on th guy in front of me, like it will in 3 minutes can I go ahead and select?

Kaylore
03-09-2009, 11:16 AM
That might have been my fault. Is it my responsibility to inform the guy in front of me that they're on the clock? I didn't because we don't do that in the OM II draft.

Mediator12
03-09-2009, 11:22 AM
That might have been my fault. Is it my responsibility to inform the guy in front of me that they're on the clock? I didn't because we don't do that in the OM II draft.

It would help but its not your fault. I believe people should kind of know when they are about to select. At least within the 12 hours or so they are given so they can also be up to date on who was selected.

I'll wait an hour or so I guess. I have to go attend to something and should be back in an hour and a half.

JCMElway
03-09-2009, 12:01 PM
Yes, please notify the next guy in line that he is up. I'm also notifying drafters when I can. That way, they are sure to get notified.

Med can draft at any time, Oskie's time has expired.

Northman
03-09-2009, 12:08 PM
Nelson is the best TE in this draft, IMO. He is Tony Scheffler 2.0. Hopefully not with the injuries though.

Agreed.

Mediator12
03-09-2009, 12:49 PM
Nelson is NOT the best TE in this draft and The Colts are ecstatic to select James Casey as their new Slot WR/TE combo for Peyton Manning. Casey is the ONLY TE in this draft that can and will catch in traffic, plus be able to stretch the field vertically. Also, he is a solid blocker outside and inline.

The way Indy uses the No huddle and 2 TE sets with Dallas Clark, Casey will become an instant matchup NIGHTMARE for teams that play INDY. He can play the slot, outside, or inline. His presence as a blocker will also reinvigorate the zone stretch running game that INDY was sorely Missing last year.

TheReverend
03-09-2009, 01:17 PM
Blast... I'm at work and my notes are at home. I won't put anyone through the wait, though. "Known" commodities still on the board.

TheReverend
03-09-2009, 01:29 PM
We're thrilled to have landed Sen'derrick, and to pair him as a 3-4 "bookend" along with Darnell Dockett. The Cardinals defense is one final step away from being as scary as the offense [/end foreshadowing]

Broncoman13
03-09-2009, 06:27 PM
It would help but its not your fault. I believe people should kind of know when they are about to select. At least within the 12 hours or so they are given so they can also be up to date on who was selected.

I'll wait an hour or so I guess. I have to go attend to something and should be back in an hour and a half.

Thanks for waiting and I agree that it's the person's responsibility to know when they are drafting. No worries Khan, but you didn't do me any favors by selecting at like MIDNIGHT!!! lol Thanks for not taking my guy to the next three that drafted ahead of me!!

BowlenBall
03-09-2009, 07:31 PM
Hmmm... the Steelers are absolutely shocked that all the good O-Line prospects have gone off the board. I was sure either Duke Robinson, Phil Loadholt, or one of the two centers (Mack and Unger) would still be on the board for the last pick in the second round.

Oh well, Jarius Byrd is a great consolation prize, and fills a new need at cornerback. Gil Byrd's kid is going to be a solid player in the NFL -- 17 career interceptions in college, and he came out with a year of eligibility left!

Northman
03-09-2009, 07:31 PM
Nelson is NOT the best TE in this draft and The Colts are ecstatic to select James Casey as their new Slot WR/TE combo for Peyton Manning. Casey is the ONLY TE in this draft that can and will catch in traffic, plus be able to stretch the field vertically. Also, he is a solid blocker outside and inline.

The way Indy uses the No huddle and 2 TE sets with Dallas Clark, Casey will become an instant matchup NIGHTMARE for teams that play INDY. He can play the slot, outside, or inline. His presence as a blocker will also reinvigorate the zone stretch running game that INDY was sorely Missing last year.

Hogwash.

socalorado
03-09-2009, 08:37 PM
Nelson is NOT the best TE in this draft and The Colts are ecstatic to select James Casey as their new Slot WR/TE combo for Peyton Manning. Casey is the ONLY TE in this draft that can and will catch in traffic, plus be able to stretch the field vertically. Also, he is a solid blocker outside and inline.

The way Indy uses the No huddle and 2 TE sets with Dallas Clark, Casey will become an instant matchup NIGHTMARE for teams that play INDY. He can play the slot, outside, or inline. His presence as a blocker will also reinvigorate the zone stretch running game that INDY was sorely Missing last year.

Casey is a fantstic pick. One of the steals of the draft. Smart pick.

TheDave
03-10-2009, 09:52 AM
Casey is a fantstic pick. One of the steals of the draft. Smart pick.

You're up boss...

TheReverend
03-10-2009, 10:17 AM
Greene 2x a year.... yay.......

socalorado
03-10-2009, 10:18 AM
You're up boss...

Done, Chief.
Nice pick BTW. Smooth. I was hoping Brinkley would get lost and drop into the 6th. Pipedreaming.

socalorado
03-10-2009, 10:21 AM
Greene 2x a year.... yay.......

Just cause Greene's running took the last 3 years off of JoPa's life from him, doesnt mean he wont be a good pro.
OH Wait! That was Pete Carroll who took the last 3 years off of JoPa's life!
My Bad!

TheReverend
03-10-2009, 10:23 AM
Just cause Greene's running took the last 3 years off of JoPa's life from him, doesnt mean he wont be a good pro.
OH Wait! That was Pete Carroll who took the last 3 years off of JoPa's life!
My Bad!

You disgust me.

I'm currently offering Sen'derrick a massive bonus if he breaks Greene's spine.

socalorado
03-10-2009, 10:37 AM
You disgust me.

I'm currently offering Sen'derrick a massive bonus if he breaks Greene's spine.

You know, the more crap i spew, the more i know its gonna come back 10 times as bad! !LOL!

SouthStndJunkie
03-10-2009, 02:03 PM
Solid pick of Jasper Brinkley....a little higher than projected, but you have to get your player when you can.

TheDave
03-10-2009, 02:09 PM
Solid pick of Jasper Brinkley....a little higher than projected, but you have to get your player when you can.

I really didn't think he would last until my pick in round 4...

If the Chefs are moving to a 3-4 he would be a solid contributor in the middle for them.

chaz
03-10-2009, 02:10 PM
Solid pick of Jasper Brinkley....a little higher than projected, but you have to get your player when you can.

I agree...he's moving up. If he's there in the 3rd for Denver I don't think you get that card in fast enough.

JCMElway
03-11-2009, 10:06 AM
Hey, the comp pick estimations are in. Do we just want to use those instead of waiting for the actual list?

ColoradoBuff
03-11-2009, 10:11 AM
sure....they are usually close anyways, aren't they?

eddie mac
03-11-2009, 11:15 AM
Hey, the comp pick estimations are in. Do we just want to use those instead of waiting for the actual list?

Too right. I aint giving up a 3rd/5th/6th after losing that pick 34 from the Cassel trade.

Here they are in order

THIRD ROUND
New England (Asante Samuel, $9.3567 million per season, 15 GP/15 GS, Pro Bowl)
Pittsburgh (Alan Faneca, $7.8 million, 16/16, Pro Bowl)
Cincinnati (Justin Smith, $7 million, 16/16) – possibly a fourth-round pick
Arizona (Calvin Pace, $6.75 million, 16/16) – possibly a fourth-round pick

FOURTH ROUND
Chicago (Bernard Berrian, $6.9 million, 16/13) – possibly a third-round pick
N.Y. Giants (Gibril Wilson, $6.5008 million, 16/15) – possibly a third-round pick
San Diego (Michael Turner, $5.75 million, 16/16, Pro Bowl) – possibly a third-round pick
San Diego (Drayton Florence, $5.9333 million, 15/8)
Tennessee (Antwan Odom, $5.9 million, 12/8)
Indianapolis (Jake Scott, $4.8 million, 16/16) – possibly a fifth-round pick

FIFTH ROUND
San Francisco (Kwame Harris, $4.6667 million, 14/11)
New England (Donte Stallworth, $4.5393 million, 11/7)
Dallas (Jacques Reeves, $4 million, 16/16) – possibly a sixth-round pick
Tennessee (Travis LaBoy, $4.4 million, 13/12) – possibly a sixth-round pick


SIXTH ROUND
Tennessee (Randy Starks, $3.885 million, 16/4)
New England (Randall Gay, $3.3125 million, 14/13)
Dallas (Julius Jones, $2.9 million, 15/10)
Cincinnati (Landon Johnson, $2.733 million, 15/0) – possibly a seventh-round pick
San Francisco (Marques Douglas, $2.525 million, 16/0) – possibly a seventh-round pick

SEVENTH ROUND
Tennessee (Ben Hartsock, $2.25 million, 11/11)
Washington (Mark Brunell, $1.755 million, 2/0)
Seattle (Chuck Darby, $1.467 million, 15/15)
Seattle (Ellis Wyms, $1.4 million, 16/0)
Chicago (John Gilmore, $1.333 million, 16/10)
Seattle (Kevin Bentley, $1.3 million, 16/7)
Chicago (Brendon Ayanbadejo, $1.223 million, 16/0, Pro Bowl)
Seattle (D.J. Hackett, $1.2 million, 9/2)
Jacksonville (Terry Cousin, $1.115 million, 16/0)
Detroit (net-value comp pick, lost three for $10.721 million, 38/22; signed three for $7.134 million, 42/31)
Detroit (non-compensatory pick)
Kansas City (non-compensatory pick)
St. Louis (non-compensatory pick)

TheReverend
03-11-2009, 11:25 AM
Wooohooo! Extra third!

JCMElway
03-11-2009, 11:43 AM
OK, they're in. Let me know if anyone has a problem with this.

socalorado
03-11-2009, 11:48 AM
OK, they're in. Let me know if anyone has a problem with this.

F***! Look at NE! Its like they have an entire 2nd draft in comp picks!
F***! them!

And SEA has 10 7th rounders. Great. Whoopie........

eddie mac
03-11-2009, 11:59 AM
****! Look at NE! Its like they have an entire 2nd draft in comp picks!
****! them!

And SEA has 10 7th rounders. Great. Whoopie........

I have 16 picks now.:D

Only 13 to go.

ludo21
03-11-2009, 11:45 PM
Screw you Eddie!! ;D

I have to wait til the 4th round till my next pick, this sucks!

brncs_fan
03-12-2009, 05:14 AM
I can't wait to trade my comp picks. :thumbsup:

TheReverend
03-12-2009, 05:19 AM
I can't wait to trade my comp picks. :thumbsup:

Kidding, right?

ludo21
03-12-2009, 12:39 PM
Some great picks coming off the board now.

Great pick for Jennings, he is going to be a stud!

Bomar is an interesting pick by the niners considering they like Smith and the other guy they got (cant think of name). But he is a good prospect.

Northman
03-12-2009, 12:46 PM
Great pick but unecessary i believe. Washington could use help in other areas.

Killericon
03-12-2009, 07:42 PM
Sweeeeeeeeeet.

chaz
03-12-2009, 08:52 PM
Texans select David Bruton, out of THE Notre Dame

socalorado
03-13-2009, 07:58 PM
Drek, great pick!
Texans got a steal in Bruton. You heard it here 1st, guy is gonna be a steal!

eddie mac
03-14-2009, 04:06 AM
We seem to have another major stall here. Come on get this going again.

brncs_fan
03-14-2009, 05:36 AM
Fo shizzle. Been ready to make my pick for a while now.

Maybe since it is the weekend more people will pop in periodically and we can get this thing rolling again.

JCMElway
03-14-2009, 09:26 AM
Magichef and snarf may select at any time, both have been PMed.

Brncs fan may make his selection at 6:29 PM CST if no pick is made.

This may be an issue this week if people are leaving for Spring Break. We'll pick back up, no worries. Feel free to PM late selectors and harass them! :wiggle:

Mediator12
03-14-2009, 01:25 PM
Magichef and snarf may select at any time, both have been PMed.

Brncs fan may make his selection at 6:29 PM CST if no pick is made.

This may be an issue this week if people are leaving for Spring Break. We'll pick back up, no worries. Feel free to PM late selectors and harass them! :wiggle:

Dude, I hope they tripled your PM box with survivor going on :thumbs: With that and the SSSSSSSSSSSSSLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW, selections in the draft on the weekend your going to need it!

Oh, yeah that super secret triple backstabbing alliance For peyton manning trade was approved by my guys Thanks!

chaz
03-14-2009, 05:45 PM
brncs fan-gilbert was already picked....

brncs_fan
03-14-2009, 06:54 PM
brncs fan-gilbert was already picked....

Fixed it. I scanned the first time and didn't see his name so I thought he would be there.

SoDak Bronco
03-14-2009, 09:15 PM
Da Bears are having a solid draft, they got their QB in Sanchez, Ayers the DE in the 2nd, and now they get a FLA WR in Louis Murphy who should be able to come in a play right away with their weak WR's.

Northman
03-14-2009, 09:15 PM
Great pick by Drek. Sidbury

azbroncfan
03-14-2009, 09:43 PM
Eagles have filled some spots they needed. They have a hole at the one OT position but not going to reach when great value is there for other holes.

Chris Wells RB OSU
VOntae Davis CB Illinois
Louis Delamas S Absolute steal here
CHase Coffman TE Good value and a need in the 3rd

chaz
03-15-2009, 12:14 AM
Fixed it. I scanned the first time and didn't see his name so I thought he would be there.

:thumbsup:

ludo21
03-15-2009, 10:28 AM
NFL BRONCO,

I believe that Victor Harris has been chosen already. JCM make sure this is correct.

NFLBRONCO
03-15-2009, 10:32 AM
122 4th
153 5th
215 7th

Miami is open to trading these picks for a pick in this round PM if interested.

TheReverend
03-15-2009, 12:01 PM
Asher is such a ****ing awesome name.

Go go gadget burning bush.

Northman
03-15-2009, 01:38 PM
Asher is such a ****ing awesome name.

Go go gadget burning bush.

Ha!

NFLBRONCO
03-15-2009, 01:49 PM
NFL BRONCO,

I believe that Victor Harris has been chosen already. JCM make sure this is correct.

Thanks for heads up

JCMElway
03-15-2009, 03:38 PM
Wow, I dodged a bullet there. Vaughn was my pick for a while now and EM took a strong safety the pick before me! Whew!

Thanks Eddie!

TheReverend
03-15-2009, 03:39 PM
Can we get an updated list?

JCMElway
03-15-2009, 03:45 PM
On page 4 of the selection thread there is a round by round list and an alphabetical list underneath as well.

eddie mac
03-15-2009, 04:23 PM
Wow, I dodged a bullet there. Vaughn was my pick for a while now and EM took a strong safety the pick before me! Whew!

Thanks Eddie!

Not a problem. I never considered Vaughn as Hamlin's a far better fit for the Pats around that spot.

Mediator12
03-15-2009, 06:11 PM
Hey Northman,

Did you know Phillips just had his knee operated on for a meniscus tear:

03/07/09 - TCU had 12 players participate in the school’s annual Pro Day, but NFL scouts were most interested in the one player who didn’t. Linebacker Jason Phillips injured his left knee at the Scouting Combine last month and had surgery earlier this week. "The timing could be worse, but it could be a lot better, too," Phillips said. "It is what it is, and I’m just taking it with a grain of salt and fighting through it." Phillips tore his meniscus during position drills at the Scouting Combine in Indianapolis on Feb. 23. Dr. Dan Cooper, the head team physician for the Dallas Cowboys, performed arthroscopic surgery on Phillips’ knee Thursday. Phillips said his rehabilitation should take six to eight weeks. Scouts were surprised when Phillips arrived at TCU’s Pro Day on crutches. "It hurts him a little bit," said Alonzo Highsmith, a scout for the Green Bay Packers. "Teams are going to be interested in how soon he can be healthy. He’s still a good football player. He worked out well at the combine, so it’s just going to be a matter of healing up. Teams are going to know he’s probably not going to be ready for mini-camp." - Charean Williams, Star-telegram

I like Phillips, but I do not think he will be a third anymore after that.

TheReverend
03-15-2009, 06:12 PM
Hey Northman,

Did you know Phillips just had his knee operated on for a meniscus tear:



I like Phillips, but I do not think he will be a third anymore after that.

I'm not so sure. He's still the third best ILB and the operation shouldn't be all that significant. The first of many for a player in that position.

Northman
03-15-2009, 06:13 PM
Hey Northman,

Did you know Phillips just had his knee operated on for a meniscus tear:



I like Phillips, but I do not think he will be a third anymore after that.


Actually, i did not know about that surgery but i still have confidence he will be a decent LB. At least as a understudy to Lewis.

brncs_fan
03-15-2009, 07:44 PM
Detroit is bringing some attitude to its o-line. It needs something.

Mediator12
03-15-2009, 08:58 PM
I'm not so sure. He's still the third best ILB and the operation shouldn't be all that significant. The first of many for a player in that position.

He is more than likely to miss all the OTA's and minicamps. Also, Meniscus damage can linger and require cleanups. Believe me that his draft stock will drop due to the nature of the injury and teams realizing he will not be able to play right away.

As for his career, he is the 3rd or 4th best ILB in this draft IMHO. Minus the injury, this is where I thought he would go. With it, well who knows. Jsut saying he will drop medically on a lot of boards and I will be very surprised to see him go in the third.

Mediator12
03-15-2009, 09:12 PM
Indianapolis finally selects their DT help with Dorell Scott of Clemson. Scott played both Nose and UT in Clemson's scheme. He is a fifth year senior that was limited by injury and poor team performance in 2008. Instead of leaving school to train for the draft, Scott stayed in school to finish his final 3 classes and earn his degree. Nevertheless, he still had one of the best workouts in Indianapolis and impressed scouts in drills.

Dorrell Scott, Clemson, 6-3, 312: After averaging 50 tackles and four sacks in his previous two seasons, Scott entered last season as an Outland Trophy candidate. But he was hampered in his senior year by a strained knee and was not very productive until the last few games. Still, scouts like a lot of things about him. He is a determined athlete who takes great pride in his leadership role and is an emotional type who will not make the same mistake twice. Scott is a tireless worker in the training room and in practices and takes pride in mentoring younger players.

TheReverend
03-16-2009, 04:44 AM
He is more than likely to miss all the OTA's and minicamps. Also, Meniscus damage can linger and require cleanups. Believe me that his draft stock will drop due to the nature of the injury and teams realizing he will not be able to play right away.

As for his career, he is the 3rd or 4th best ILB in this draft IMHO. Minus the injury, this is where I thought he would go. With it, well who knows. Jsut saying he will drop medically on a lot of boards and I will be very surprised to see him go in the third.

I think I see what's going on here... check your rep comments.

TheReverend
03-16-2009, 09:59 AM
I'm gonna try and keep this process nice and smooth (I'm on the clock), but I'm somewhat busy at the moment. Will do my best not to delay the process by taking my allotted time.

TheReverend
03-16-2009, 10:50 AM
That was a very hard decision. Frankly, I'm somewhat shocked FB took Caldwell. I have about 8 interior OL (only 1 C though) rated higher. Luigs is a late second rounder, imo.

Florida_Bronco
03-16-2009, 01:03 PM
That was a very hard decision. Frankly, I'm somewhat shocked FB took Caldwell. I have about 8 interior OL (only 1 C though) rated higher. Luigs is a late second rounder, imo.

Center was one of my big areas of need.

TheReverend
03-16-2009, 01:04 PM
Center was one of my big areas of need.

Likewise... but you like him better than Luigs?

Florida_Bronco
03-16-2009, 01:27 PM
Likewise... but you like him better than Luigs?

Yeah, a little bit.

TheReverend
03-16-2009, 01:56 PM
Yeah, a little bit.

Okay. Not knocking it, just was surprised.

JCMElway
03-17-2009, 04:36 PM
Welcome to the 4th round, gentleman. Great work!

Mediator12
03-17-2009, 08:25 PM
Danell Ellerbe is one of my top 5 LB's in this draft. Nice Pick Killericon, Cinci looks pretty good so far defensively and they need it!

SouthStndJunkie
03-17-2009, 10:26 PM
Sweet....I am almost on the clock.

It has been 13 days since my last pick at the top of the 2nd round.

At least the Browns (due to my trade) have 2 picks in the 4th round.

Killericon
03-17-2009, 10:57 PM
Danell Ellerbe is one of my top 5 LB's in this draft. Nice Pick Killericon, Cinci looks pretty good so far defensively and they need it!

I think I'm going D the rest of the way, but if there's a slider of a WR or LG then I might bite.

TheReverend
03-18-2009, 07:34 AM
That was a very hard decision. Frankly, I'm somewhat shocked FB took Caldwell. I have about 8 interior OL (only 1 C though) rated higher. Luigs is a late second rounder, imo.

The hard decision was deciding on Luigs or that mammoth "House" Herman Johnson. Great pick up BFDD. Was privately wishing he'd go unnoticed until the bottom of the 5th!

BowlenBall
03-18-2009, 10:50 AM
I was really going back and forth between Herman Johnson and Gerald Cadogan on my last pick.... in the end, I'm guessing that Johnson doesn't have the foot speed to be very effective in the pros. They've got his pro day workout on NFL.com, and buddy looked very, very stiff.

That being said, I was kinda hoping he might make it to the bottom of the 4th round... the "Planet Theory" and all that....

socalorado
03-18-2009, 11:34 AM
Well, being that the seachickens traded away Peterson midway through this damn thing, i think i managed to shore up the LB corps with Follett, hopefully.

SEA DRAFT SO FAR
1 JEREMY MAKLIN WR MIZZOU
2 SEAN SMITH FS/CB UTAH
2 RON BRACE DT BC
3 SHONN GREENE RB OHIO
4 ZACK FOLLETT OLB CAL

Mediator12
03-18-2009, 09:17 PM
Keenan Lewis Junkman?

Nice Pick ;D Some of the better midlevel players IMHO are going. Damn Colts always winning and drafting at the end of the rounds!

SouthStndJunkie
03-18-2009, 10:43 PM
Keenan Lewis Junkman?

Nice Pick ;D Some of the better midlevel players IMHO are going. Damn Colts always winning and drafting at the end of the rounds!

You like Keenan Lewis as well?

I had a feeling he would not be there in Round 5 if I did not take him in the 4th round.

Actually, the Browns don't have a 5th round pick this year....so real glad I took him now.

No 3rd round or 5th round pick for the Browns in the draft.

SouthStndJunkie
03-18-2009, 10:59 PM
Cleveland Browns Draft Picks:

Traded down from 5 to 7 to pick up an extra 4th round pick.

No 3rd round or 5th round picks in the 2009 draft.

1st round (7) Browns -- Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas
2nd round (36) Browns -- LeSean McCoy, RB, Pitt
4th round (100) -- Keenan Lewis, CB, Oregon State
4th round (104) -- Frantz Joseph, ILB, Florida Atlantic
6th round (164)
7th round(197)

brncs_fan
03-19-2009, 05:59 AM
It's nice to have the extra first and third, but not picking for days at a time is not much fun. I only have two picks left at the top of the fifth and sixth rounds.

Arkie
03-19-2009, 10:08 AM
The Jacksonville Jaguars new class so far...


http://www.nflspot.com/nfldraftbars/09smith.jpg
http://www.nflspot.com/nfldraftbars/08freeman.jpg
http://www.nflspot.com/nfldraftbars/09mickens.jpg
http://www.nflspot.com/nfldraftbars/09jean-francois.jpg

chaz
03-20-2009, 01:23 PM
Houston's picks so far:

15-Tyson Jackson, DE LSU
46-Donald Brown, RB Conn
77-David Bruton, S ND
108-Mike Thomas, WR 'Zona

JCMElway
03-21-2009, 09:26 AM
Magichef has until 3:15 PM CST to select. If he does not Drek may select at that time.

If he does not make his selection at #118 I will look for a replacement for him.

Folks, if you know you are going to be away from a pc for an extended amount of time, please send me or socalorado a PM priority list and we will make the selection for you when you're up.

Mediator12
03-21-2009, 09:36 AM
Magichef has until 3:15 PM CST to select. If he does not Drek may select at that time.

If he does not make his selection at #118 I will look for a replacement for him.

Folks, if you know you are going to be away from a pc for an extended amount of time, please send me or socalorado a PM priority list and we will make the selection for you when you're up.

Why does he have 24 hours? I thought we are on the 12 hour plan?

JCMElway
03-21-2009, 09:37 AM
Why does he have 24 hours? I thought we are on the 12 hour plan?

You're absolutely right. I was thinking PM. Drek is up.

SoDak Bronco
03-22-2009, 07:37 PM
Da Bears Picks-hit all the need areas
1st Round- Mark Sanchez-QB USC
2nd Round- Robert Ayers-DE Tenn
3rd Round- Louis Murphy-WR Fla
4th Round- Troy Kropog-OT Tulane

Mediator12
03-23-2009, 08:35 AM
Nickademus, Kyle Moore was already selected by KC in the third round bro! I'll pm you.....

ludo21
03-23-2009, 09:32 AM
Med, what do you think of my Barnes pick?

wise or too early?

JCMElway
03-23-2009, 09:37 PM
Damn magichef, Cody Brown was a fantastic pickup this late in the draft. Helluva pick, man!

JCMElway
03-23-2009, 09:38 PM
Hey all, we need a replacement for BFDD. His Father passed away and he won't be continuing in the mocks.

MagicHef
03-23-2009, 10:13 PM
Damn magichef, Cody Brown was a fantastic pickup this late in the draft. Helluva pick, man!

Yeah, I kinda lucked out. Pass rusher is one of the Bills' biggest needs, and I hadn't addressed it yet.

Mediator12
03-24-2009, 07:17 AM
Med, what do you think of my Barnes pick?

wise or too early?

From what I have seen that is a solid selection. Barnes has the right skills to play quickly and has a little ST's value to boot. You actually got a little value if you are asking me.

NFLBRONCO
03-24-2009, 09:07 PM
Anybody have good player suggestions for Miami?
PM please

Thanks

Miami

Picks so far
Nicks WR
Larry English DE
Pat White QB/WR

Mediator12
03-24-2009, 10:00 PM
Nice pick JCM, I just crossed one player off my short list for the next pick. NOw, let's see what NFLBronco does!

Mcgrath is a typical Colts LB, but there are more fish in the sea ;D

JCMElway
03-24-2009, 11:14 PM
Thanks Med. I'm actually surprised he made it into the 4th round. I think he's a great value pick in the 4th, there are a few mocks that have him as a high to mid third rounder because of his speed.

I took him for the Broncos in the mid-third of Mock draft II. He may be undersized, but he came out a s a junior. He's fast, makes plays, and can pack some more weight on that frame. Big upside guy.

JCMElway
03-24-2009, 11:15 PM
Anybody have good player suggestions for Miami?
PM please

Thanks

Miami

Picks so far
Nicks WR
Larry English DE
Pat White QB/WR

Check this site out. It should give you tons of ideas.

http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=9&c=12&yr=2009&nid=83&lnid=124&rc=4

Mediator12
03-25-2009, 05:43 AM
NFLBronco was on right after your selection last night. I thought he was going to make a pick so I stayed up and extra hour and even PM'd him some help. Now, I am dead Freakin' tired and grumpy. SIGH.

brncs_fan
03-25-2009, 08:13 AM
How is it possible to be in both drafts and still have all this time to sit and wait?

Mediator12
03-25-2009, 10:05 AM
Alright, NFLbronco has failed to pick within 12 hours. Therfore, I am making my selection.

Mediator12
03-25-2009, 11:02 AM
INDY is very happy that Sherrod Martin fell to them this late. They were not sure what type of CB would be available after taking Scott with their third rounder.

Now, Coyer gets a hybrid CB with S skills to add to his secondary. Will help implement a Big Nickle and get Bob Sanders some extra rest on some passing downs. Another huge draft steal from Troy following in the steps of Osi Umenyiora, Demarcus Ware, and Leodis McKelvin....

Broncoman13
03-25-2009, 11:16 AM
Damn it Med!

Mediator12
03-25-2009, 11:22 AM
Damn it Med!

That is probably the fiftieth curse thrown my way today ;D

This is nothing compared to what is happening in Survivorville :thumbsup:

Mediator12
03-25-2009, 09:51 PM
Kaylore, didn't you learn your lesson about Texas DL ???

Oh well, at least give him to CAR ;D

Kaylore
03-25-2009, 09:55 PM
Kaylore, didn't you learn your lesson about Texas DL ???

Oh well, at least give him to CAR ;D

LOL He was the best value. For the record I hated Crowder coming out of college, but I think Miller has a better shot. Very productive. This could be my worst draft ever considering I took Nate Davis in the third and he's going to be undrafted and playing in Canada or even Arena football in the future. Also, for the record, I'm only filling in for the Panthers because someone dropped out. I figure between this and running the other one, I can afford to have one bad draft.

By the way, a bunch of DL need to be added to the Alpha list - namely Magee and Marks. When I didn't find Marks' name on the Alpha list I almost pooed my pants. Then I scrolled up and saw that theRev stole him already...bastard.

Mediator12
03-25-2009, 10:12 PM
LOL He was the best value. For the record I hated Crowder coming out of college, but I think Miller has a better shot. Very productive. This could be my worst draft ever considering I took Nate Davis in the third and he's going to be undrafted and playing in Canada or even Arena football in the future. Also, for the record, I'm only filling in for the Panthers because someone dropped out. I figure between this and running the other one, I can afford to have one bad draft.

By the way, a bunch of DL need to be added to the Alpha list - namely Magee and Marks. When I didn't find Marks' name on the Alpha list I almost pooed my pants. Then I scrolled up and saw that theRev stole him already...bastard.

Ahh, we will see about Marks. He and Pat Sims have tremendous talent but not much discipline on or off the field. Not a guy i would take a chance on where someone else would value wise.

Miller is alright, but not the player Rodrique Wright, Frank Okam, or Marcus Tubbs were coming out. That makes his value less to me, but at least he seems to think playing everydown is a good thing to do for a DL ;D

BobHorry5
03-26-2009, 08:41 PM
please allow me to introduce myself i am a man of wealth and taste i've been at this for a long long time so for the boys i will take over the draft
hoo hoo

JCMElway
03-26-2009, 09:14 PM
Hey guys, I got my roommate to take over the draft for BFDD. He's a Steelers fan, and you can hold that against him if you want to.

BowlenBall
03-26-2009, 09:52 PM
please allow me to introduce myself i am a man of wealth and taste i've been at this for a long long time so for the boys i will take over the draft
hoo hoo

Pleased to meet you (woot woot), let me guess your name (woot woot).

Pittsburgh fan, eh? How do you like my picks for your team so far?

Florida_Bronco
03-26-2009, 10:30 PM
Hey guys, I got my roommate to take over the draft for BFDD. He's a Steelers fan, and you can hold that against him if you want to.

I've got my pillowcase full of door knobs ready to go.

Mediator12
03-27-2009, 07:11 AM
I've got my pillowcase full of door knobs ready to go.

Man, you are hardcore. I was going to just go with the standard bars of soap in my pillowcase....:thumbsup:

Mediator12
03-27-2009, 08:17 AM
Joe Burnett in the fourth is a little surprising, even after his pro day. Interesting choice Eddie mac. He seems to fit the Pats DB mold, so nice work ;D

SoDak Bronco
03-27-2009, 08:39 AM
Bears pick a back-up to Forte with Javon Ringer. We all know you can never have enough solid RB's.

Mediator12
03-27-2009, 08:58 AM
Bears pick a back-up to Forte with Javon Ringer. We all know you can never have enough solid RB's.

Yep, he also got a LOT of work last year. He will need to get spelled more this year IMHO.

Now, Let's see if Oskie screws me back for selecting Martin right in front of him. I doubt it though :welcome:

eddie mac
03-27-2009, 01:20 PM
Joe Burnett in the fourth is a little surprising, even after his pro day. Interesting choice Eddie mac. He seems to fit the Pats DB mold, so nice work ;D

Thanks Med. I'm only halfway through my picks as well so a little reach now shouldn't hurt too much.Ha!

BobHorry5
03-27-2009, 07:12 PM
expatfan
love the first two rounds i mean maybin 22nd overall wow but the o line in the 3rd would have been nice as well corner francis is nice but big ben has been sacked more than any other qb the last two years also interior d line help is needed but outside of the top say 5 players not really to many gems out there overall a solid b grade

JCMElway
03-28-2009, 10:37 PM
Great work gentleman. We're almost into the 5th round and we still have 4 days until April. We should have plenty of time to finish the draft and have our free agent period.

Does anyone remember the exact ins and outs of our free agent system, and do we have any volunteers to run the free agency period?

BowlenBall
03-29-2009, 12:00 AM
Great work gentleman. We're almost into the 5th round and we still have 4 days until April. We should have plenty of time to finish the draft and have our free agent period.

Does anyone remember the exact ins and outs of our free agent system, and do we have any volunteers to run the free agency period?

I ran it last year -- here's the thread with the 2008 rules:
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=67629

I'd be willing to do it again, unless somebody else really wants to....

Mediator12
03-29-2009, 08:50 AM
AAARGHHH! Florida :chairhit: One pick away, and he guts me!

Florida took his time and took my guy. Great pick Florida, I love Dillard and he would have made the Rice Connection complete for me.

Dillard really reminds me of Reggie Wayne and He is a great Slot guy right off the bat.

Mediator12
03-29-2009, 10:07 AM
So, the next best player available on the Colts Board is the second player drafted that did not receive a combine Invite. That would be Jason Williams OLB Western Illinois. He was absolutely tremendous at the East-West Shrine game looking easily like the best OLB there. He was able to cover, filled gaps, tackled well, and just impressed Scouts with his athletic and mental ability.

The Colts need bigger, fast LB's and this guy is a small school stud who really fits the bill for their needs. They have an interview scheduled with him this week, so he is on their radar. Plus, he had safety style workout numbers at northwestern's pro day!

Here are his measurables and Analysis:

Height: 6010 Weight: 241
40 Yrd Dash: 4.49
20 Yrd Dash: 2.59
10 Yrd Dash: 1.49 225 Lb. Bench Reps: 26
Vertical Jump: 39
Broad Jump: 10'09"

Hit as low as 4.44 40-yard dash at Northwestern Pro day.

Western Illinois linebacker Jason Williams created a buzz last week at his school's pro day when he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.46 seconds. Problem was, it was on the school's basketball court and most observers acknowledged you had to add at least one-tenth of a second to his time. So, he showed up at Northwestern's pro day Thursday and did one better, running between 4.42 and 4.48 on a much slower artificial surface in the school's indoor facility. The 2008 Buck Buchanan Award finalist, a DuSable graduate, boosted himself even more for the NFL draft. Seventeen teams were represented at the pro day, with the Buccaneers sending linebackers coach Joe Barry to work him out. Some of the scouts present admitted they showed up for one reason--to watch Williams. He wasn't invited to the combine but a good showing at the East-West Shrine Game followed by this has him moving up draft boards. He will visit the Bucs and has meetings planned with Indianapolis, Jacksonville and Miami. Although there is no meeting scheduled with the Bears, Williams said he met with Midwest scout Jeff Shiver at the college all-star game and has spoken to him a couple times since. Williams, 6-1, 238 pounds, projects as an outside linebacker. Keep an eye on him. - Brad Biggs, The Chicago Sun Times

EAST-WEST SHRINE STANDOUT: LB Jason Williams, Western Illinois: The Leatherneck showed versatility all week, running with tight ends down the seam and stepping into the hole to stop running backs in their tracks. His size and athleticism put him at the top of the linebacker group despite the presence of players from big programs like Southern California, Cal and South Carolina. - Chad Reuter, The SportsXchange, NFLDraftScout

2008 AP FCS ALL-AMERICA FIRST TEAM: Jason Williams, senior, 6-3, 235, Western Illinois, has been selected AP FCS All-American First Team for the 2008 college football season as voted on by The Associated Press. Williams led the country with a school-record six forced fumbles (0.55/game)... set a new FCS record and tied the NCAA all-division record of 14 career forced fumbles... ranks second in the league and 32nd nationally with 14.5 tackles for loss (1.32/game). - Western Illinois football

Overall, The Colts were happy to get him this late.

JCMElway
03-29-2009, 10:19 AM
Hey all,

Before you make your selection PLEASE CHECK THE ALPHABETICAL SORTED LIST TO MAKE SURE YOUR PLAYER HAS NOT ALREADY BEEN SELECTED.

I'm not saying I'm infallible either. If I miss something on the Alpha list, please PM me and let me know.

Thanks! ^5

Mediator12
03-29-2009, 10:48 AM
Hey all,

Before you make your selection PLEASE CHECK THE ALPHABETICAL SORTED LIST TO MAKE SURE YOUR PLAYER HAS NOT ALREADY BEEN SELECTED.

I'm not saying I'm infallible either. If I miss something on the Alpha list, please PM me and let me know.

Thanks! ^5

Hey, in his defense that is the third time Moore has been selected this draft! And, He spelled it Moors, not Moore. There is a difference!

SouthStndJunkie
03-29-2009, 10:53 AM
I sure hope Kyle Moore lasts until my pick in the 6th round.

JCMElway
03-29-2009, 10:54 AM
Hey, in his defense that is the third time Moore has been selected this draft! And, He spelled it Moors, not Moore. There is a difference!

LOL

Anyway, if he doesn't get back in here, Eddie Mac is on the clock at 3 PM CST.

brncs_fan
03-29-2009, 12:51 PM
Fixed it. Checked on the spelling and totally had a brain freeze and picked the wrong guy altogether.

Also in my defense, the other time that I picked a guy that had already been taken I checked the list and he was not in alphabetical order and I didn't see him.

brncs_fan
03-29-2009, 12:55 PM
On my pick...

I am not real high on this guy to be honest. However, his height and size could work for him at the next level if he can bulk up and get some more coaching on using his long frame to keep defenders off.

The reality is the Lions need so many pieces and there are only so many picks.

eddie mac
03-29-2009, 01:25 PM
On my pick...

I am not real high on this guy to be honest. However, his height and size could work for him at the next level if he can bulk up and get some more coaching on using his long frame to keep defenders off.

The reality is the Lions need so many pieces and there are only so many picks.


You need to change that pick again. Matt already selected at Comp 3D.

Florida_Bronco
03-29-2009, 02:29 PM
AAARGHHH! Florida :chairhit: One pick away, and he guts me!

Florida took his time and took my guy. Great pick Florida, I love Dillard and he would have made the Rice Connection complete for me.

Dillard really reminds me of Reggie Wayne and He is a great Slot guy right off the bat.

Sorry bro. I was this close to picking up a QB or another DT since Vince Young looks like a full on bust and Haynesworth bailed, but then I realized that the Titans needed a WR and was shocked to find that Dillard had fallen this far. Most of the mocks I saw had him going in the late 2nd early 3rd rounds.

Glad to hear you liked him though. That makes me much more confident in the pick. :D

Mediator12
03-29-2009, 03:39 PM
Sorry bro. I was this close to picking up a QB or another DT since Vince Young looks like a full on bust and Haynesworth bailed, but then I realized that the Titans needed a WR and was shocked to find that Dillard had fallen this far. Most of the mocks I saw had him going in the late 2nd early 3rd rounds.

Glad to hear you liked him though. That makes me much more confident in the pick. :D

Its alright. I got the LB I wanted instead, but Dillard is a fantastic WR to be available late 4th for sure. Another non-speed guy who just runs clean routes and catches everything thrown in hi zip code. Perfect Colts style WR, he's wasted down there in TEN ;D

JCMElway
03-29-2009, 07:23 PM
***TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT***

Falcons receive picks #149 and #213
Eagles receives pick #135

brncs_fan
03-29-2009, 09:24 PM
You need to change that pick again. Matt already selected at Comp 3D.

Changed it. I scrolled all the way through every pick until the second round to make sure that the guy wasn't picked by someone else.

What a headache.

JCMElway
03-29-2009, 09:39 PM
Changed it. I scrolled all the way through every pick until the second round to make sure that the guy wasn't picked by someone else.

What a headache.

Hey Brncs fan, did you notice that there's a list of every player taken in alphabetical order (below the picks by team) on the same post?

brncs_fan
03-29-2009, 10:44 PM
Hey Brncs fan, did you notice that there's a list of every player taken in alphabetical order (below the picks by team) on the same post?

Yes I did. The first time this happened though, the player was out of order so I didn't see him. The second was my fault. The third time the guy was not even on the list.

I'm not complaining or anything, just never had this much trouble getting a pick in before. It is a lot of people picking and keeping track of everything is difficult.

Mediator12
03-30-2009, 04:12 PM
Nice pick Killericon. Mauga is going to be solid as long as his history of injuries are not an issue, and CIN really needs a MIKE. Overall, I like how your draft is shaping up defensively too.

Mediator12
04-02-2009, 06:34 AM
Nickademus time is up and SOdak may select for the Bears at any time.

I'll PM them.

JCMElway
04-02-2009, 09:12 AM
Nickademus time is up and SOdak may select for the Bears at any time.

I'll PM them.


Thanks for jumping in and helping out Med!

SoDak Bronco
04-02-2009, 12:18 PM
Oh I can pick?? Woohoo

SoDak Bronco
04-02-2009, 12:49 PM
Bears select Derek Pegues safety, Miss St.. Hopefully he can be a contributer with Mike Brown leaving the team via FA.

BowlenBall
04-02-2009, 10:39 PM
Best thing about the Cutler trade?

Everyone got on the Mane and made a friggin' pick on the OM mock draft!

TheReverend
04-03-2009, 06:56 AM
Page eight of this thread:

Probably a dozen spots lower than he'll go. A 4.7 ILB that can lay the wood like that playing next to Dansby on the inside of a 3-4?
That's a wet dream.
My initial target was Peria Jerry for 5 tech DE or Laurinitis. This was just impossible to pass up.

Dozen ??? Maybe if he runs 4.7 at his pro day.
As for me, I had confidence I might pick tonight before bed @ 27, but I am going to sleep. At this rate I 'll be picking WED. Night y'all.

He'll go top half. And 4.7's very realistic. That new stadium seemed to have a fairly dramatic effect on straight line speed.

Not really. It's the exact same surface they ran on the last three years in INDY. The CB's were just slow and the RB's too. All other positions were average speeds.

We'll find out when Pro Days come in.

"Maualuga finally ran by himself at the very end of the workout with everyone gathered around and he did not disappoint. His times ranged from 4.59 to 4.71 according to the scouts we talked to, re-affirming his straight-line speed and burst and answering any lingering questions. "

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/news/story?id=4034272

Just sayin, Matt

:)

Mediator12
04-03-2009, 08:15 AM
Hey Snarf it's Corvey Irvin not Corey Irvin ;D

And, that is a nice pick right there. While he lacks a lot of experience, Irvin has a ton of upside and is a solid penetrating DT. I wonder if he will fit the the Bates mold of DT in TB, but I really liked him and you just took him off the top of my list :pfbbt:

Kaylore
04-03-2009, 09:37 AM
Is Hawk's Boys dead? I need to know because he's coming up.

Edit: I see he just made his pick. We should be good.

BobHorry5
04-03-2009, 03:52 PM
and with mccain (this was a jerry jones selection by the way) he said i wanted a man so fast it could pull my face skin back even further

chaz
04-03-2009, 04:38 PM
anybody have a take on Lee Robinson out of Alcorn St.?? I based the pick off mainly what I've read, but could he be a small school sleeper? He's got crazy stats even at lesser competition and could fit well into a 3-4 if the broncos looked his way later?

Mediator12
04-04-2009, 07:08 AM
anybody have a take on Lee Robinson out of Alcorn St.?? I based the pick off mainly what I've read, but could he be a small school sleeper? He's got crazy stats even at lesser competition and could fit well into a 3-4 if the broncos looked his way later?

He could be. He was alright at the Texas v. Nation game, but that is all I have seen of him. Way too little to have an opinion.

Mediator12
04-04-2009, 07:15 AM
and with mccain (this was a jerry jones selection by the way) he said i wanted a man so fast it could pull my face skin back even further

How's that been working for them again ROFL!

McCain is a fast riser due to being one of the only CB's in this draft with legit deep speed. He can cover, but he reminds me of Keenan Lewis that way. He can Cover but can he do what else an NFL level CB has to do? Play in zone, make tackles, compete for jump balls. The knock on him is he is only 5087 tall to go with those questions....

Interesting choice, nonetheless. Definitely a JJ type pick so kudos ;D