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SportinOne
02-22-2009, 08:41 AM
So an "activist" got into a post game press conference and started asking Jim Calhoun about his gigantic salary. Personally, I think both people came out looking like idiots. The activist should have put a lot more thought into what he was going to say, and probably SHOULD have gotten more facts. Although i do agree with the principle of his argument, i just think he was too quick to do it for shock factor and for the sake of making noise than for the actual "cause" of his efforts, and probably could have done more homework.

Calhoun, on the other hand, looked very defensive and once he found the one thing that couldn't be argued he decided to start shouting the same phrase over and over. Not very articulate, and so what if they turn over 12M to the university? That's the university. How much of that goes to the state?

I understand that sports sort of transcend the regular population in that they live in a financial bubble of sorts, but when it is COLLEGE sports and the coaches ARE state employees, well then what?

The sound is pretty low so i advise turning way up.

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ohiobronco2
02-22-2009, 10:00 AM
Good for him. He's been a damn fine coach for a long time. He's earned his money. It's not like he's directly responsible for the economic crisis. But I believe Home Depot gave a $210 million dollar severance package to their CEO, this is a problem. America has lacked common sense at the top for too long.

Spider
02-22-2009, 10:42 AM
that reporter is a **** stick .............Dont care if that coach is getting 10 million a year as long as it isnt tax payers dime ........ Besides that wasnt the place to confront the coach

wolf754life
02-22-2009, 10:51 AM
you win, you get paid................end of story

Doggcow
02-22-2009, 11:49 AM
The refs in college sports are pretty bad. Anyone watch my Cougars squeak one out against UCLA the other day? We rose to the occaision and were 30 points better than UCLA and the refs could only bring UCLA within 1 in the end.

PAC 10 refs are ****ing terrible thats for sure.

Rock Chalk
02-22-2009, 04:01 PM
So an "activist" got into a post game press conference and started asking Jim Calhoun about his gigantic salary. Personally, I think both people came out looking like idiots. The activist should have put a lot more thought into what he was going to say, and probably SHOULD have gotten more facts. Although i do agree with the principle of his argument, i just think he was too quick to do it for shock factor and for the sake of making noise than for the actual "cause" of his efforts, and probably could have done more homework.

Calhoun, on the other hand, looked very defensive and once he found the one thing that couldn't be argued he decided to start shouting the same phrase over and over. Not very articulate, and so what if they turn over 12M to the university? That's the university. How much of that goes to the state?
I understand that sports sort of transcend the regular population in that they live in a financial bubble of sorts, but when it is COLLEGE sports and the coaches ARE state employees, well then what?

The sound is pretty low so i advise turning way up.

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You missed the point.

He earns his salary. See, he is a damn fine coach and has been a damn fine coach for a very long time. In his tenure, the basketball team has probably averaged around 10 million a year in revenue for the school, of which his salary comes out of that. It doesnt cost the tax payers a dime to pay his salary at all and he is absolutely worth it with the ratio of revenue he brings the university.

The activist is an idiot. Just because times are tough for some people in this country (and lets be honest here, 90% of the American work force still is employed and paying their bills), does not mean that all people who make 7 figures should forfeit their salaries.

vancejohnson82
02-22-2009, 04:14 PM
it was a basketball press conference....

that reporter should be fired...basketball and his big victory should have been the story...not some dip**** trying to prove a point

Broncojef
02-22-2009, 05:07 PM
Its quickly becoming a crime to be a hard working person who earns a large salary in this country and understood to be equitable and fair to be a person who takes government handouts. Calhoun worked for years and years to get to the position he's in financially, good for him!

Spider
02-22-2009, 05:30 PM
Its quickly becoming a crime to be a hard working person who earns a large salary in this country and understood to be equitable and fair to be a person who takes government handouts. Calhoun worked for years and years to get to the position he's in financially, good for him!
Yeah poor CEO's ......... planning on having a bake sale for the AIG and wal street bankers to help them through this ....... Sure I can count on you for a cup cake or 2

UboBronco
02-22-2009, 05:33 PM
As soon as Congress and the Senate give up their lifetime salary (if you are not aware, once elected, they receive their salary for the REST OF THEIR LIFE, AND IF THEIR SPOUSE OUTLIVES THEM, THEY GET THE SALARY, besides other benefits)
Then I will worry about someone who is earning their salary while working.

This reporter should be tar and feathered in the media, but I am sure that will not happen.

Dedhed
02-22-2009, 06:26 PM
Other than paying taxes, what does Calhoun owe to the state of Connecticut? Calhoun has built a program that more than pays for his salary. This media hack has earned a lifetime ban on press passes.

Archer81
02-22-2009, 06:37 PM
The reporter needs to realize the money Calhoun pays in taxes supports 3 or 4 welfare families. Also, who gives a **** how much he gets paid? His job is to maintain a prestigious basketball program and win championships...if he is doing that, he earns his dough. Never understand the impulse some people have to penalize successful people.


:Broncos:

Broncojef
02-22-2009, 07:01 PM
Yeah poor CEO's ......... planning on having a bake sale for the AIG and wal street bankers to help them through this ....... Sure I can count on you for a cup cake or 2

That young prick asking the question in the interview comes across as a young person who has done nothing his whole life, yet still looks cross eyed at a guy who clawed his way through the coaching ranks and generates millions of dollars to the University. Just like Calhoun I give a ton in taxes and since this administration seems hell bent on giving handouts maybe Pelosi will stimulate your cupcake sale the next go around of bailouts...your cause seems just as good as any of the other crap they seem happy to throw money at.

gyldenlove
02-22-2009, 07:16 PM
Hopefully that is a joke, name one CEO of a company who has 10 million a year revenue who could get away with a 1.7 million a year salary.

If the CEO of a company or the coach of a team takes home 20% of the revenue plus benefits, you are in some serious trouble.

Josh Mcdaniels take home about twice that amount and he is the HC of a team that revenues well into the 9 digits per year.

Spider
02-22-2009, 07:18 PM
That young prick asking the question in the interview comes across as a young person who has done nothing his whole life, yet still looks cross eyed at a guy who clawed his way through the coaching ranks and generates millions of dollars to the University. Just like Calhoun I give a ton in taxes and since this administration seems hell bent on giving handouts maybe Pelosi will stimulate your cupcake sale the next go around of bailouts...your cause seems just as good as any of the other crap they seem happy to throw money at.

I dont disagree with that , in fact I was critical of the prick myself ......... I just dont lump that coach in with CEO's or Wall Street types

~Crash~
02-22-2009, 08:10 PM
The activist should go after all the congress and House of Representatives that spend millions on trips to spas and have black hawk helicopters escorting them and there trains. then run all over the world on planes lavishly spending money . then wine the auto makes CEO's come in on chartered planes .

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
02-22-2009, 08:56 PM
So an "activist" got into a post game press conference and started asking Jim Calhoun about his gigantic salary. Personally, I think both people came out looking like idiots. The activist should have put a lot more thought into what he was going to say, and probably SHOULD have gotten more facts. Although i do agree with the principle of his argument, i just think he was too quick to do it for shock factor and for the sake of making noise than for the actual "cause" of his efforts, and probably could have done more homework.

Calhoun, on the other hand, looked very defensive and once he found the one thing that couldn't be argued he decided to start shouting the same phrase over and over. Not very articulate, and so what if they turn over 12M to the university? That's the university. How much of that goes to the state?

I understand that sports sort of transcend the regular population in that they live in a financial bubble of sorts, but when it is COLLEGE sports and the coaches ARE state employees, well then what?

The sound is pretty low so i advise turning way up.

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That guy off the screen was an idiot. Who the hell does he think he is? Who gave him the right to judge who should make how much?

broncocalijohn
02-22-2009, 09:15 PM
If it wasnt for Calhoun, you wouldnt have a division one football program at Conneticut. He earns enough money for the basketball program, football and TITLE 9 girl water polo or whatever they offer. The wouldnt pay it if he wasnt worth it.

bpc
02-22-2009, 09:20 PM
Props to Calhoun for ripping this guy a new a-hole. What an idiot.

Garcia Bronco
02-23-2009, 05:22 AM
Boogieman.

Spider
02-23-2009, 05:27 AM
The activist should go after all the congress and House of Representatives that spend millions on trips to spas and have black hawk helicopters escorting them and there trains. then run all over the world on planes lavishly spending money . then wine the auto makes CEO's come in on chartered planes .

Damn right .. those are on our Dime ........ I dont mind paying taxes , but when it goes to AIG CEO's who fly to France and have expensive meals , messages , or a Politician , it kinda gets on my nerves a tad bit ;D

gyldenlove
02-23-2009, 06:39 AM
If it wasnt for Calhoun, you wouldnt have a division one football program at Conneticut. He earns enough money for the basketball program, football and TITLE 9 girl water polo or whatever they offer. The wouldnt pay it if he wasnt worth it.

That is good logic, you should tell that to some wall street CEOs and big auto CEOs.....

Garcia Bronco
02-23-2009, 08:08 AM
That is good logic, you should tell that to some wall street CEOs and big auto CEOs.....

It's not logic. It's a fact.

gyldenlove
02-23-2009, 08:13 AM
It's not logic. It's a fact.

So whatever a company pays an employee that employee has earned? I think a lot of people would disagree with you on that one, but maybe you don't mind that your tax dollars are being used to pay bonuses and salaries to bankers and wall street people?

Garcia Bronco
02-23-2009, 09:00 AM
So whatever a company pays an employee that employee has earned?

Maybe, maybe not, but in this case yes I think Jim earns every penny.

but maybe you don't mind that your tax dollars are being used to pay bonuses and salaries to bankers and wall street people?

Maybe, maybe not, but that doesn't apply here. You have to understand what a coach like Jom pulls for an athletic program like UCONN's. We're talking scholarship money, student admission, Title 9 funding, and a profitable basket ball program.

gyldenlove
02-23-2009, 09:22 AM
Maybe, maybe not, but that doesn't apply here. You have to understand what a coach like Jom pulls for an athletic program like UCONN's. We're talking scholarship money, student admission, Title 9 funding, and a profitable basket ball program.

My problem is that a guy who doesn't even play, takes home 20% of the total revenue, not profit, but revenue. That means the CEO of Exxon would take home 100 billion dollars per year if he was paid at the same rate.

Essentially you are saying he is worth 20% of the entire organization including players, scouts, coaches, trainers, assistants, cheer leaders, ticket sellers, and all the people who solicit contributions, do the finances etc. How many people are involved in the UCONN athletics program? 200? 500? and he is worth 20% of all that? I just don't see it.

He is just getting what people will pay him, as is the wall street bankers and the AIG management, I am not blaming him, if it was me in his shoes I would do the same thing. I just wonder his salary is really proportional to his worth compared to others. You don't see a salesman who just got an order of 10 million dollars go ask for a compensation package of almost 2 million a year.

Garcia Bronco
02-23-2009, 09:56 AM
My problem is that a guy who doesn't even play, takes home 20% of the total revenue, not profit, but revenue. That means the CEO of Exxon would take home 100 billion dollars per year if he was paid at the same rate.

Essentially you are saying he is worth 20% of the entire organization including players, scouts, coaches, trainers, assistants, cheer leaders, ticket sellers, and all the people who solicit contributions, do the finances etc. How many people are involved in the UCONN athletics program? 200? 500? and he is worth 20% of all that? I just don't see it.

He is just getting what people will pay him, as is the wall street bankers and the AIG management, I am not blaming him, if it was me in his shoes I would do the same thing. I just wonder his salary is really proportional to his worth compared to others. You don't see a salesman who just got an order of 10 million dollars go ask for a compensation package of almost 2 million a year.


This isn't exxon, AIG, or any other extraneous entity. Do you realize how students flock to schools with great athletic programs and be a final four regular? People like that. But here's what you have to ultimately reside to as a conclusion. If he wasn't profitable, he wouldn't get paid that much. Jim recruits well. He's built the reputation. He's been successful for over 2 decades at UConn alone playing in the Big East.

Now if you want to talk about some player fresh into the pros making 10 times any vet you've got my attention, but Jim has earned it.

Garcia Bronco
02-23-2009, 09:57 AM
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You don't see a salesman who just got an order of 10 million dollars go ask for a compensation package of almost 2 million a year.


It happens. More than you might think, but I have heavy exposure to business practices inside financial houses.

Beantown Bronco
02-23-2009, 10:01 AM
You don't see a salesman who just got an order of 10 million dollars go ask for a compensation package of almost 2 million a year.

My salary works out to be just over 20% of what I bill out to clients. It's a very typical structure in medium to large law firms.

gyldenlove
02-23-2009, 10:09 AM
This isn't exxon, AIG, or any other extraneous entity. Do you realize how students flock to schools with great athletic programs and be a final four regular? People like that. But here's what you have to ultimately reside to as a conclusion. If he wasn't profitable, he wouldn't get paid that much. Jim recruits well. He's built the reputation. He's been successful for over 2 decades at UConn alone playing in the Big East.

Now if you want to talk about some player fresh into the pros making 10 times any vet you've got my attention, but Jim has earned it.

I don't know if that is necesarily true, a lot of school with pathetic athletic programs get a lot of students. I doubt that a good athletic program is a big attraction to students who have scholastic merits.

That is the assertion I am struggling with, because so many people are getting paid a LOT more than they should be, especially in athletics. Anna Kournikova was the best paid female tennis player, despite the fact she barely cracked the top 10 when she was at her peak and never won a major tournament. Jamarcus Russell makes more money than Jay Cutler, one is a pro bowler and the other is a scrub. I don't think that any one individual ever is worth 20% of a large organization, is Belichik worth 20% of the Patriots? they have success year after year, they draft well, they make oodles of money and clearly Belichik is the brains behind that team.

My argument isn't that he hasn't earned his money, he is clearly very good at his job, and in a bigger organization I see no reason why he shouldn't make 2 million or more. My argument is the 20%, that is just a LOT for one person.

gyldenlove
02-23-2009, 10:10 AM
My salary works out to be just over 20% of what I bill out to clients. It's a very typical structure in medium to large law firms.

But that is because you are not the only one billing clients in your firm, I am sure the revenue of your firm is substantially larger than what you bill. So your salary is a lot less than 20% of the total revenue.

Beantown Bronco
02-23-2009, 10:14 AM
But that is because you are not the only one billing clients in your firm, I am sure the revenue of your firm is substantially larger than what you bill. So your salary is a lot less than 20% of the total revenue.

Which is why I isolated my statement to your salesman analogy......unless you are saying that, in your scenario, the company in question only employs one salesman.

gyldenlove
02-23-2009, 10:15 AM
Which is why I isolated my statement to your salesman analogy......unless you are saying that, in your scenario, the company in question only employs one salesman.

That would be the case in order to compare to UCONN where the total revenue is apparently being attributed to Coach Calhoun.

barryr
02-23-2009, 10:47 AM
Calhoun has earned respect. He took a nothing program and made it a consistent contender, which I'm sure was not easy convincing players to come to UCONN in the first place.

If that reporter wants to make a real point, how about going to Hollywood and saying that to actors and actresses who make millions making movies whether they are busts or not? Seems the Hollywood only give back to save the animal of the week in the arctic or going overseas to adopt children. How about they put more money into this country?

Garcia Bronco
02-23-2009, 11:05 AM
I don't know if that is necesarily true, a lot of school with pathetic athletic programs get a lot of students. I doubt that a good athletic program is a big attraction to students who have scholastic merits.
.

Then you haven't studied it well. Not only does Jim bring students to the fold, UConn basketball has mass fan appeal. There are very few schools that can do this. Miami, OSU, Florida State, Oklahoma, Texas, USC all have national fan appeal in football. A good coach and program makes them millions hand over fist. Bottom line is Jim has built that program with his bare hands.

Garcia Bronco
02-23-2009, 11:08 AM
That is the assertion I am struggling with, because so many people are getting paid a LOT more than they should be, especially in athletics. Anna Kournikova was the best paid female tennis player, despite the fact she barely cracked the top 10 when she was at her peak and never won a major tournament. Jamarcus Russell makes more money than Jay Cutler, one is a pro bowler and the other is a scrub. I don't think that any one individual ever is worth 20% of a large organization, is Belichik worth 20% of the Patriots? they have success year after year, they draft well, they make oodles of money and clearly Belichik is the brains behind that team.

My argument isn't that he hasn't earned his money, he is clearly very good at his job, and in a bigger organization I see no reason why he shouldn't make 2 million or more. My argument is the 20%, that is just a LOT for one person.

Anna and Jamarcus have nothing to do with what Jim Calhoun gets paid. THEY ARE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. You see no reason why he should get paid that much, yet other people do.

Beantown Bronco
02-23-2009, 11:32 AM
Anna Kournikova was the best paid female tennis player, despite the fact she barely cracked the top 10 when she was at her peak and never won a major tournament.

She was the #1 ranked doubles player in the world for years. It's not like she was a scrub.

And she made most of her money from modeling and endorsements outside the tennis world. It's not like she was being paid any more by the league itself than people ranked above here. Tennis isn't like football. In tennis, you don't get paid by the league if you don't win.....so people with crappy rankings aren't going to make higher salaries than people with better rankings.

Spider
02-23-2009, 11:46 AM
My problem is that a guy who doesn't even play, takes home 20% of the total revenue,
It is none of our business , thats between him and the university , now if it is tax payer funds paying this guy , then damn right we have a problem .......... A huge problem , but as it stands now , more power to him , he earned his coin legit .........

Drunk Monkey
02-23-2009, 12:13 PM
As soon as Congress and the Senate give up their lifetime salary (if you are not aware, once elected, they receive their salary for the REST OF THEIR LIFE, AND IF THEIR SPOUSE OUTLIVES THEM, THEY GET THE SALARY, besides other benefits)
Then I will worry about someone who is earning their salary while working.

This reporter should be tar and feathered in the media, but I am sure that will not happen.

Not true about the life time pay, http://www.senate.gov/reference/common/faq/retirement_for_members.shtml

I agree with the tar and feathering though

bronco militia
02-23-2009, 12:17 PM
he's a coach..

that's how coaches communicate with everyone

gyldenlove
02-23-2009, 12:32 PM
Anna and Jamarcus have nothing to do with what Jim Calhoun gets paid. THEY ARE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. You see no reason why he should get paid that much, yet other people do.

Someone thought it was a good idea to pay the Enron top echelon 100s of millions, and they didn't do so well, just because it seems like a good idea to someone doesn't mean it is one.

gyldenlove
02-23-2009, 12:34 PM
She was the #1 ranked doubles player in the world for years. It's not like she was a scrub.

And she made most of her money from modeling and endorsements outside the tennis world. It's not like she was being paid any more by the league itself than people ranked above here. Tennis isn't like football. In tennis, you don't get paid by the league if you don't win.....so people with crappy rankings aren't going to make higher salaries than people with better rankings.

Yay, the #1 ranked doubles player.

Most of the money a tennis player earns from playing tennis is starting fees, you get paid to enter a tournament, a lot more than you get from winnings. Kournikova had higher entry fees than any other female tennis player in her day even though several other players were better. The same is true for golfers incidentally, which is why Michelle Wie is doing well despite not being an amazing golfer.

Jason in LA
02-23-2009, 12:36 PM
The refs in college sports are pretty bad. Anyone watch my Cougars squeak one out against UCLA the other day? We rose to the occaision and were 30 points better than UCLA and the refs could only bring UCLA within 1 in the end.

PAC 10 refs are ****ing terrible thats for sure.

I didn't see the game, but I heard a radio talk show host say it was the exact opposite. That UCLA got screwed by the refs. PAC 10 refs are bad. I guess it is just human nature to only notice when the bad calls go against your team.