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HEAV
02-20-2009, 05:27 PM
Gibril, Curry, Kalimba are released


One year after making him the third highest safety in the NFL, the Raiders have released Gibril Wilson.

The Raiders also released defensive end Kalimba Edwards and wide receiver Ronald Curry.

The Raiders had no explanation as to why Wilson was cut, but after signing Nnamdi Asomugha and Shane Lechler to big deals, the team needed to do somethign to create more salary cap-space.

Oddly enough, when DeAngelo Hall was waived last year, he called Wilson. Wilson said he thought Hall called to say he'd heard Wilson was being cut.

Of all the money the Raiders threw at players last offseason, Wilson appeared to be the one that had some level of success.

He finished second on the team with 129 tackles to go with two interceptions and 1.5 sacks.

Wilson's deal was for six years and worth up to $39 million with $16 million in guarantees.

This move probably means Michael Huff won't get his wish of being released. The team could put Tyvon Branch at strong safety if they don't want to put Huff back in that spot.

Edwards had five sacks, but none in his last six games he played in.

Curry has long expected to be released after going from starter to special teams player, to inactive last season.

I'll have more on this later.

--Jason Jones
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What a horrid franchise.

Inkana7
02-20-2009, 05:32 PM
Do we dare? He was a decent safety for NY. Not worth anything close to what he got from Oakland, but he's still a good S.

cutthemdown
02-20-2009, 05:41 PM
He's good enough to start at safety in the NFL. He's not a stud but I see him as a player that makes the plays he should make. If a defense makes the plays they should make they can usually be a good defense. Our defense missed more tackles then I can ever remember any defense missing. If there was a stat for missed tackles to go along with tackles it would be a great stat to look at. I'd say Broncos missed at least 100 tackles last yr. Tackles a team with even avg starters would make.

Wilson is for sure worth bringing in. Especially since Phillips, Brown and some of the other FA safetys are coming off injuries.

Also really Broncos need to sign 2 safety's, or draft one sign one etc. Considering the need to not look at Wilson would be crazy.

broncofan7
02-20-2009, 05:44 PM
YES, sign him. I will start looking under Pat Bowlen's couch cushions for signing bonus $$$.........

BroncoMan4ever
02-20-2009, 05:47 PM
i would take a shot on Wilson and Curry. at the worst he is no good and we cut ties, but he could be a good number 3.

BroncoMan4ever
02-20-2009, 05:49 PM
He's good enough to start at safety in the NFL. He's not a stud but I see him as a player that makes the plays he should make. If a defense makes the plays they should make they can usually be a good defense. Our defense missed more tackles then I can ever remember any defense missing. If there was a stat for missed tackles to go along with tackles it would be a great stat to look at. I'd say Broncos missed at least 100 tackles last yr. Tackles a team with even avg starters would make.

Wilson is for sure worth bringing in. Especially since Phillips, Brown and some of the other FA safetys are coming off injuries.

Also really Broncos need to sign 2 safety's, or draft one sign one etc. Considering the need to not look at Wilson would be crazy.

i would like to see Denver bring in at least 3 new Safeties into camp. Mike Brown(when healthy he is really good) James Sanders(i believe he will be a quick sign due to ties with McDaniels, and now Wilson and maybe even another draft pick to back them up along with barrett.

cutthemdown
02-20-2009, 05:53 PM
i would take a shot on Wilson and Curry. at the worst he is no good and we cut ties, but he could be a good number 3.

He is 210 pounds so prob big enough to help broncos outside on 3rd downs letting Royal got to the slot. I also like Brandon Jones from tenn at 6-1 212 as a potential depth 3rd wr.

We don't need to look for a stud just a steady WR with some size to go along with Marshall. I like Royal and Stokely as the smaller WR right now. Good mix of youth and vet in those 2.

I still remember that catch Curry made in the snow, in mile high, to beat Broncos on a monday night a few yrs back.

cutthemdown
02-20-2009, 05:54 PM
i would like to see Denver bring in at least 3 new Safeties into camp. Mike Brown(when healthy he is really good) James Sanders(i believe he will be a quick sign due to ties with McDaniels, and now Wilson and maybe even another draft pick to back them up along with barrett.

I thought Barrett looked really stiff and had slow hips. To the point i really don't ever expect to see him start in the NFL.

I'd rather Broncos not take chances on injured players at this point. Brown IMO is another Boss Bailey and a complete waste of time.

BroncoMan4ever
02-20-2009, 05:58 PM
I thought Barrett looked really stiff and had slow hips. To the point i really don't ever expect to see him start in the NFL.

I'd rather Broncos not take chances on injured players at this point. Brown IMO is another Boss Bailey and a complete waste of time.

with his injury history Brown wouldn't be able to bargain for a huge deal, and because of that the risk would be low and possible rewards from having him if healthy would be high.

also when Brown is healthy he is really good, when Boss is healthy he still sucks

and with barrett, i think if given the opportunity and a little more coaching he could become a solid starter. he's never going to be a pro bowler, but he could be a solid guy and at worse a decent backup a and ST player

BroncoMan4ever
02-20-2009, 06:01 PM
He is 210 pounds so prob big enough to help broncos outside on 3rd downs letting Royal got to the slot. I also like Brandon Jones from tenn at 6-1 212 as a potential depth 3rd wr.

We don't need to look for a stud just a steady WR with some size to go along with Marshall. I like Royal and Stokely as the smaller WR right now. Good mix of youth and vet in those 2.

I still remember that catch Curry made in the snow, in mile high, to beat Broncos on a monday night a few yrs back.

that's what i am thinking too. we don't need to go after a guy who is a star, just a dependable guy who will catch the ball when it comes to him. it would be nice to get a good deep threat for the offense. possibly someone like Lelie. he is a turd, but we could probably get him cheap and now we have the QB that is capable of hitting him in stride. and without Mike coaching he has no reason to try and avoid coming back to Denver, if we gave him a shot.

GoHAM
02-20-2009, 07:04 PM
He is 210 pounds so prob big enough to help broncos outside on 3rd downs letting Royal got to the slot. I also like Brandon Jones from tenn at 6-1 212 as a potential depth 3rd wr.

We don't need to look for a stud just a steady WR with some size to go along with Marshall. I like Royal and Stokely as the smaller WR right now. Good mix of youth and vet in those 2.

I still remember that catch Curry made in the snow, in mile high, to beat Broncos on a monday night a few yrs back.

Jerry Porter caught the game winner.

socalorado
02-20-2009, 07:09 PM
Bring in-
FS James Sanders
SS/FS Sean Smith

Problem solved.

Then DEN could go after LBs and D-line players high in the draft, and sprinkle a RB in there.

cutthemdown
02-20-2009, 07:16 PM
Jerry Porter caught the game winner.

different yr. I was talking about this catch.

In 2004, as the number 3 receiver behind Jerry Porter, he hauled in 50 receptions for 679 yards before injuring his Achilles tendon. Before his injury Curry had several big games including a 10 reception game against the red-hot Colts, a Raiders' season high. In addition, he recorded his first career 100-yard receiving game with 110 yards on six catches in Week 11 at Denver, then followed that up with a nine-catch, 141-yard performance the following week against Kansas City. He also won the Levitra NFL Play of the Week for his leaping, twisting, one-handed grab in the back of the end zone at Denver in a snowstorm.

DBroncos4life
02-20-2009, 07:23 PM
How could any player in his right mind want to go to Oakland and play football. I want to see someone without laughing say its not about the money.

BroncoMan4ever
02-20-2009, 07:30 PM
How could any player in his right mind want to go to Oakland and play football. I want to see someone without laughing say its not about the money.

i'm still shocked Asomughua signed there. i actually think he could have gotten a similar deal from a number of other teams needing a shut down corner that don't suck like the Raiders.

snowspot66
02-20-2009, 08:01 PM
Similar total but not similar guarantee. The Raiders are so bad they have to completely **** over the contract situation for everybody just to have somebody stick around.

wolf754life
02-20-2009, 08:04 PM
shanahan would have signed him, but the goodmans said no, thank our lucky stars for the good men that allowed us to take slarvis the bust and tim chowder.............

Inkana7
02-20-2009, 08:08 PM
Quit Posting

wolf754life
02-20-2009, 08:11 PM
Quit Posting

start thinking.

Inkana7
02-20-2009, 08:12 PM
start thinking.

You're a ****in' mind reader. I was just about to tell you that!

snowspot66
02-20-2009, 08:13 PM
We're thinking we would like to have a relevant discussion on the topic at hand. We're thinking we would like somebody to stop hijacking every post on the Mane with obsessive ramblings and ranting about a man fired five weeks ago.

theAPAOps5
02-20-2009, 08:14 PM
Bring him in he is steps above what we have now. Remember we have the Raiders old LB coach I bet he has something to say about if he is worth it or not.

wolf754life
02-20-2009, 08:15 PM
We're thinking we would like to have a relevant discussion on the topic at hand. We're thinking we would like somebody to stop hijacking every post on the Mane with obsessive ramblings and ranting about a man fired five weeks ago.

yea but shanahan wasn't that bad really, we were close to winning, we shouldn't have fired him, our owner is a sell out drunk bum, the broncos are the bestest most wonderfulest team ever as long as shanny and the goodmans were here, the glory days were glorious, the reality is a much different story.

wake up zombies. stop complaining about the future

snowspot66
02-20-2009, 08:22 PM
Who the **** is complaining about the future? It's as if you've gotten what you wanted and now that Shanahan is gone your like a machine trying to fulfill a purpose already fulfilled. You lash out at Shanahan and everybody on the Mane despite the fact that Shanahan is gone and nobody is actively defending or campaigning on his behalf. He didn't even come up in this conversation until you brought him up. WE are talking about safeties. What the **** are you talking about? Good lord do you have a book to sell or something?

wolf754life
02-20-2009, 08:23 PM
Who the **** is complaining about the future? It's as if you've gotten what you wanted and now that Shanahan is gone your like a machine trying to fulfill a purpose already fulfilled. You lash out at Shanahan and everybody on the Mane despite the fact that Shanahan is gone and nobody is actively defending or campaigning on his behalf. He didn't even come up in this conversation until you brought him up. WE are talking about safeties. What the **** are you talking about? Good lord do you have a book to sell or something?

i am standing tall in front of the man!

nickademus
02-21-2009, 04:05 PM
Jerry Porter caught the game winner.

yea but curry made that amazing one handed grab in the back of the endzone that was a freak of nature.

Borks147
02-21-2009, 04:31 PM
This message is hidden because wolf754life is on your ignore list.

ignorance is bliss.

Florida_Bronco
02-21-2009, 04:46 PM
This message is hidden because wolf754life is on your ignore list.

ignorance is bliss.

Agreed.

Tombstone RJ
02-21-2009, 04:57 PM
Hell, Curry was the only consistent player for a long time on the faider's team. I'd bring him in before Wilson. I'd like the Broncos to develop Barrett and WW as a safety tandem.

nickademus
02-21-2009, 05:18 PM
Hell, Curry was the only consistent player for a long time on the faider's team. I'd bring him in before Wilson. I'd like the Broncos to develop Barrett and WW as a safety tandem.

wow. that my friend is a great idea we can watch stiff hips and a linebacker with questionable coverage skills man our backfield. this is the worst post of the year. Have you been talking to Bobo?

BroncoBuff
02-21-2009, 06:11 PM
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BroncoBuff
02-21-2009, 06:12 PM
I thought Barrett looked really stiff and had slow hips. To the point i really don't ever expect to see him start in the NFL.There was another Broncos SS who had slow hip swivel, and was average at best in pass coverage ... but he went to 9 Pro Bowls and won two Super Bowls. He'll probably be the only 9 Pro Bowl, 2 Super Bowl guy in league history not to make the Hall of Fame. Josh Barrett will never be Steve Atwater, but there is an Atwater-like strong safety mold I think Josh might fit into. And although I don't wanna hang my hat on stupid Slowick, he did stick Barrett alone in deep centerfield against the Jets ... and that worked out pretty well.

I say YES to Gibril Wilson (after he clears waivers and that abortion of a contract is voided) ... but I'd rather have their free safety Michael Huff, cause again, I like Barrett at SS.

Florida_Bronco
02-21-2009, 06:42 PM
There was another Broncos SS who had slow hip swivel, and was average at best in pass coverage ... but he went to 9 Pro Bowls and won two Super Bowls. He'll probably be the only 9 Pro Bowl, 2 Super Bowl guy in league history not to make the Hall of Fame. Josh Barrett will never be Steve Atwater, but there is an Atwater-like strong safety mold I think Josh might fit into. And although I don't wanna hang my hat on stupid Slowick, he did stick Barrett alone in deep centerfield against the Jets ... and that worked out pretty well.

I say YES to Gibril Wilson (after he clears waivers and that abortion of a contract is voided) ... but I'd rather have their free safety Michael Huff, cause again, I like Barrett at SS.

Actually Buff, Steve Atwater was a free safety for us, and I don't recall him ever having stiff hips.

Then again, I didn't really think Barrett had stiff hips either. Looked to me more like tentativeness common in NFL rookies.

Inkana7
02-21-2009, 06:46 PM
Barret has fatness common among 235 pound men.

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0ezB0EYgjH7Om/610x.jpg

BroncoBuff
02-21-2009, 08:33 PM
Actually Buff, Steve Atwater was a free safety for us, and I don't recall him ever having stiff hips.
Free or strong is not the point really ... Atwater, like Billy Thompson, DS49 and John Lynch have all played both spots (Thompson and DS49 even played CB their first season or two). My point was that Atwater - as much as we may love him - was a liability in pass coverage, that's the consensus of football writers and the Hall. And that's why Atwater is an 8-time Pro-Bowler, 2-time Super Bowler who hasn't even made a preliminary HOF list. (I said 9 Pro Bowls by mistake before). I'll bet he's the only 8 Pro Bowl 2Super Bowl player not in the Hall.

So on the Atwater-profile comparison, I disagree with cutthemdown that Barrett's stiff hips means he's not starter-material. Remember he's very fast - ran a 4.3 40 - which is WHACK for a guy his size.

socalorado
02-21-2009, 10:34 PM
Free or strong is not the point really ... Atwater, like Billy Thompson, DS49 and John Lynch have all played both spots (Thompson and DS49 even played CB their first season or two). My point was that Atwater - as much as we may love him - was a liability in pass coverage, that's the consensus of football writers and the Hall. And that's why Atwater is an 8-time Pro-Bowler, 2-time Super Bowler who hasn't even made a preliminary HOF list. (I said 9 Pro Bowls by mistake before). I'll bet he's the only 8 Pro Bowl 2Super Bowl player not in the Hall.

So on the Atwater-profile comparison, I disagree with cutthemdown that Barrett's stiff hips means he's not starter-material. Remember he's very fast - ran a 4.3 40 - which is WHACK for a guy his size.

Barrett played great. He was stuck in Slowd!cks crappy system, and he was a rookie on a horrid defense on top of that. he'll be fine next year, as long as DEN can get some solid FS players like James Sanders or Sean smith to play with him.

SouthStndJunkie
02-21-2009, 11:33 PM
Gibril Wilson is a player that Denver should think about signing.

Only 27 years old.

13 INTs and 7 forced fumbles in 5 years....good nose for the ball.

6'0 210 pounds.

A little stiff, but athletic enough to make up for it. Above average in run support and in pass coverage.

Certainly a lot better than anything we have had at safety recently.

The Moops
02-22-2009, 10:33 AM
Got to watch him a lot when he was with the Giants.

Tough kid.

Definitely worth a looksee

BroncoBuff
02-22-2009, 11:19 AM
Got to watch him a lot when he was with the Giants.

Tough kid.

Definitely worth a looksee
Gibril was one of the top guys on my free agent wish list .... Slap too if I recall.

Cito Pelon
02-22-2009, 02:38 PM
Wilson would be a good pickup. 13 INT's in 5 years, 391 solo tackles in 5 years. Depends on the cost, I guess.