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ZONA
02-18-2009, 12:29 AM
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/02/17/chimpanzee.attack/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

(CNN) -- A Connecticut woman pleaded for police to "please hurry" to save a friend from an attack by a pet chimpanzee, according to emotional 911 recordings released Tuesday by Stamford police.
Police say Travis, seen here as a younger chimp, was like a child to his owner, Sandra Herold.

Police say Travis, seen here as a younger chimp, was like a child to his owner, Sandra Herold.

"He's ripping her apart," Sandra Herold, 70, tells dispatchers about her pet, Travis.

With the chimp squealing in the background, Herold cries out, "He's killed my friend!"

The victim, Charla Nash, 55, remains hospitalized with life-threatening injuries after the chimp, once featured in television commercials for Coca-Cola and Old Navy, attacked her Monday afternoon, police said.

Nash had just arrived at Herold's house when Travis jumped on her and began biting and mauling her, causing serious injuries to her face, neck and hands, according to Stamford Police Capt. Rich Conklin. Conklin said the attack was unprovoked, but he described it as "brutal and lengthy."

Herold had called Nash to her house to help get 14-year-old Travis back inside after he used a key to escape.

While her friend was being attacked, Herold was unable to pull the primate off. She then called 911 before stabbing the chimp with a butcher knife and hitting him with a shovel. Neither fazed Travis, who police said had been like a child to Herold.
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A Stamford police officer later shot the chimp multiple times after the primate went after him inside a police cruiser, Conklin said. Travis returned to the house, where police found him dead. Conklin estimated that Travis weighed close to 200 pounds.

Conklin couldn't confirm media reports that the chimp had Lyme disease, though he did say investigators were taking their time with the case to determine what may have provoked Travis to attack Nash. Animals often do not exhibit symptoms of Lyme disease, caused by the bite of certain types of ticks, although aggression is a possible symptom, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Conklin said Nash had recently gotten a haircut that changed her appearance significantly. Conklin said the chimp had been acting "rambunctious" earlier, prompting Herold to put Xanax in a cup of tea for him to drink. He did not know if the animal had been prescribed the medicine or if Herold had ever given her pet such a mixture before.

Conklin added that his department is not used to dealing with cases such as this, and they were trying to familiarize themselves with laws and regulations before deciding if charges will be filed.

Conklin said this isn't the first interaction his officers have had with Travis. The chimp, who was well known and liked in the community, escaped in 2003 and "wreaked havoc" on the streets of Stamford for a couple of hours, Conklin said.
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Travis' body was removed from the home and taken to two locations: His head was taken to the state lab for a rabies test and the body was taken to the University of Connecticut for an animal autopsy. Conklin said this is standard procedure.

The chimp, who was known to walk around town, sometimes without a leash, also liked to surf on the Internet and was able to change the TV channel with a remote, according to a Stamford Advocate article. The paper also reported that Travis watered plants, was able to feed hay to his owner's horses, ate at a table with the rest of the family and sometimes drank wine from a stemmed glass.

A 200lb chimp - WTF were they feeding him? That sounds pretty damn big to me. I'm 215lbs and I've walked right next to chimps in cages and they didn't seem like they were but 100lbs at most. And after being stabbed with a butcher knife, the chimp was trying to get to the cop, who finally shot him? Damn, that chimp was one bad MF.


One of these days.................

http://www.mattcioffi.com/samples/gangstaChimp23.jpg

TDmvp
02-18-2009, 12:32 AM
It bit off BOTH that one girls hands and ate them during all this i heard on tv ...

Sad as well as crazy ...

BroncoMan4ever
02-18-2009, 03:22 AM
get your hands off of me you damn dirty ape.

how epically hilarious would it have been to hear this womans friend say that as he was beating her to death.

Dexter
02-18-2009, 04:23 AM
I don't mean to sound cold, but it always amazes me how people seem shocked by stories like this.

It is still a wild animal, no matter how trained or tamed it may seem.


I still wish the woman the best recovery possible.

tesnyde
02-18-2009, 04:44 AM
People get animals as pets and have no idea what they getting into. My family lived in Borneo for 5 yrs. Poachers would kill mama oragutangs to get the babies to sell as pets in Singapore/around the world for 10k. The babies then grow up and become 3x stronger than a man and cannot be handled. They get dropped the zoo, killed, or left in parks. Its sad and stupid. It is amazing how much the babies have the same mannerisms and expressions as human babies. I guess people get the wrong impression. No wonder they are going extinct.

Kaylore
02-18-2009, 06:51 AM
I don't mean to sound cold, but it always amazes me how people seem shocked by stories like this.

It is still a wild animal, no matter how trained or tamed it may seem.


I still wish the woman the best recovery possible.

I agree. This is like when those magicians in Vegas got mauled by their tigers. It's a tiger; It's going to act like one.

Garcia Bronco
02-18-2009, 07:02 AM
I heard the 911 tape on the news this morning. This woman sounds like a freakin idiot. This chimp was killing her friend and she just sat there on the phone. GO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

MplsBronco
02-18-2009, 07:06 AM
get your hands off of me you damn dirty ape.

how epically hilarious would it have been to hear this womans friend say that as he was beating her to death.

He wasn't beating her, he was eating her. Big difference and horrific.

MplsBronco
02-18-2009, 07:08 AM
I heard the 911 tape on the news this morning. This woman sounds like a freakin idiot. This chimp was killing her friend and she just sat there on the phone. GO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

She was stabbing him with a butcher knife but that only made it worse and he tried to attack her.

Anyone remember several years ago the guy that went to visit a chimp he once owned? Another chimp got out and attacked him. Bit off one hand and his man parts as well as parts of his face. Chimps can be nasty.

Garcia Bronco
02-18-2009, 07:11 AM
She was stabbing him with a butcher knife but that only made it worse and he tried to attack her.

Anyone remember several years ago the guy that went to visit a chimp he once owned? Another chimp got out and attacked him. Bit off one hand and his man parts as well as parts of his face. Chimps can be nasty.

That's why you slit it's throat

HorseHead
02-18-2009, 07:12 AM
The owners were dosing the Chimp with xanax to calm it down, no joke, the chimp had a reaction and freaked out...this will come out in the news in the next day or so..watch...

Dumb as-es.....no wonder he went ape sh-t, no pun intended...

HorseHead
02-18-2009, 07:13 AM
My bad, read the article...

MplsBronco
02-18-2009, 07:25 AM
That's why you slit it's throat

Chimps are 3-7 times stronger than a human male. Plus he weighed 200 pounds which is a good sized human. I would like to see you try to slit this chimps throat. Not excusing the owner, but she was 70 years old. She should never have had the animal. I guess I just don't find the humor in some of these posts as it sounds like he ripped the woman's face off.

TheDave
02-18-2009, 07:30 AM
A 200 lb wild animal who's smart enough and desperate enough to "use" a key to escape... And this lady thought a little xanax in his tea would make everything OK.

Good God this world is full of stupid people...

TheDave
02-18-2009, 07:32 AM
Chimps are 3-7 times stronger than a human male. Plus he weighed 200 pounds which is a good sized human. I would like to see you try to slit this chimps throat. Not excusing the owner, but she was 70 years old. She should never have had the animal. I guess I just don't find the humor in some of these posts as it sounds like he ripped the woman's face off.

Foir what it's worth... Garcia uses performance enhancing drugs. This chimp is no match for him.

rugbythug
02-18-2009, 07:36 AM
This lady Needed some home Defense

Shotgun>Chimpanzee

Garcia Bronco
02-18-2009, 07:37 AM
Chimps are 3-7 times stronger than a human male. Plus he weighed 200 pounds which is a good sized human. I would like to see you try to slit this chimps throat. Not excusing the owner, but she was 70 years old. She should never have had the animal. I guess I just don't find the humor in some of these posts as it sounds like he ripped the woman's face off.

Then she needed a method to subdue the animal. Something a professional would use. You can't make excuses for her NOT planning on this senario.

Garcia Bronco
02-18-2009, 07:38 AM
Foir what it's worth... Garcia uses performance enhancing drugs. This chimp is no match for him.

I bet if given the situation I'd fiqure out how to kill that mother****er.

Smiling Assassin27
02-18-2009, 07:41 AM
Spider has an alibi, i guess...He was in Arkansas and the victim showed no evidence of a throat punch. Spider gets away again.

TheDave
02-18-2009, 07:43 AM
I bet if given the situation I'd fiqure out how to kill that mother****er.

Actually... I'll bet you smart enough to not own a ****ing Gorilla sized primate.

Garcia Bronco
02-18-2009, 07:59 AM
Actually... I'll bet you smart enough to not own a ****ing Gorilla sized primate.

True, but getting past that I bet I'd figure out a way to stop the thing cold.

cutthemdown
02-18-2009, 08:34 AM
I heard the 911 tape on the news this morning. This woman sounds like a freakin idiot. This chimp was killing her friend and she just sat there on the phone. GO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

she tried dude. She stabbed the chimp in the neck with a knife, she beat it over the head, the chimp didn't stop. She just wasn't strong enough at her age to get it done.

Sad story. Keep big wild animals in the wild or an animal facility like a zoo. I used to have a Monkey but he was hard to take care of so I gave him to a guy who had a primate reserve. I'm sure it was the right thing to do.

I do have some snakes that I guess are considered wild animals but they aren't giant snakes or hot snakes so really no biggie.

I think people just like to be different and everyone has a dog or cat. For that reason people will still try and keep Chimps, Rattlesnakes, Alligators, mountain lions etc etc.

If you do keep an animal that can actually harm you if it turns you better have a plan for if it does. If I had a chimp I would probably have a stun gun, or mace, or something in case it went crazy and tried to eat my friends face.

cutthemdown
02-18-2009, 08:35 AM
She was stabbing him with a butcher knife but that only made it worse and he tried to attack her.

Anyone remember several years ago the guy that went to visit a chimp he once owned? Another chimp got out and attacked him. Bit off one hand and his man parts as well as parts of his face. Chimps can be nasty.

I've also heard with male chimps they will pull off a dudes genitals because in the wild without those you ain't ****.

vancejohnson82
02-18-2009, 08:39 AM
she tried dude. She stabbed the chimp in the neck with a knife, she beat it over the head, the chimp didn't stop. She just wasn't strong enough at her age to get it done.

Sad story. Keep big wild animals in the wild or an animal facility like a zoo. I used to have a Monkey but he was hard to take care of so I gave him to a guy who had a primate reserve. I'm sure it was the right thing to do.

I do have some snakes that I guess are considered wild animals but they aren't giant snakes or hot snakes so really no biggie.

I think people just like to be different and everyone has a dog or cat. For that reason people will still try and keep Chimps, Rattlesnakes, Alligators, mountain lions etc etc.

If you do keep an animal that can actually harm you if it turns you better have a plan for if it does. If I had a chimp I would probably have a stun gun, or mace, or something in case it went crazy and tried to eat my friends face.


exactly...the last part of what you said is exactly the kidn of thinking you have to have when you own an animal like this...

why would you have NOT thought about this type of a scenario?? Especially when the chimp had escaped before and you coudlnt control it??? Also, its acting rambunctious...so badly that you feel the need to subdue it with medication, yet you dont think to yourself, "hmmm, what if this goes to the next level?"

What a stupid woman...too bad her friend had to pay the price

gyldenlove
02-18-2009, 09:52 AM
This happens ALL the time with Chimps. The Chimps you see in movies, on tv shows and commercials are typically about 5 to 8 years old and have been trained since they were babies. By the time they reach teenagehood they become too independent to be handled and either shot or sold to road-side zoos where they live in cages meant for small animals.

Even professional animal handlers and trainers can't handle chimps when they reach this age, what the hell was a geriatric doing with one?

Chimps are very smart and very independent when they grow up and they become very dangerous.

Check out this documentary for some really good and very sad information about chimps: http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/cruelcamera/

ZONA
02-18-2009, 09:52 AM
No lie, when I was 23 a friend of mine from work asked me if I wanted to come over to his house and see his wild puma. I was like what. His brothers just bough a vacant home next to their parents home and were keeping it there. They found it as a cub stranded in the mountains in Payson, AZ. Took it home and were feeding it raw chicken meat. They kept that thing in the house for over a year. When I had went to see it, it was like 18 months old. The house smelled like hell on earth. I went inside and stood in a hallway as he walked around the corner to go get it. I thought he was gonna bring it out on a leash or in a cage or something. A minute later I hear something down the hall and as I'm looking over there, I see this MF mountain lion head peer around the corner.

HOLY $HIT was I freaked man, but I was totally frozen. Those yellow eyes were just glaring at me. It wasn't full grown yet but it was no cub either. It starts to turn the corner and walk towards me and my friend is behind it, no leash on that MF either. I'm saying to my friend WTF dude, get that ****ing thing away from me. So I'm starting to back up and there is a wall behind me. The lion jumps on me with his paws on my shoulders and he was as tall as I was (6'4"). I remember saying to my friend if he didn't get the lion off me I was gonna punch it in the face and make a break for the door because I was about ready to piss my pants. Friend walks over and is petting it's head and said the male lion just wants to suckle on my ear lobe (I have no idea why). So he gently bites down on my ear and is trying to suckle it. Meanwhile, his MF sharp ass claws are sorta digging into my shoulders. Finally he got him off me and out the door I went.

A few things I took from that experience was that when confronted with a true wild animal, sometimes you never know how you are gonna react. You say you will be a tough guy but more times then not you are frozen in your tracks with fear. Now if that lion had been attacking me, sure I would have tried to run for it or fight it but that wasn't the case. And the other thing I realized is just how bad lions smell. Gawd I hope I never have to smell that again. It's breath was disgusting. The eyes were almost evil looking man. Up close, when you are looking right into them in real life, it's down right terrifying.


But I still would have kicked that chimps ass - lol :strong:

Tombstone RJ
02-18-2009, 12:13 PM
This happens ALL the time with Chimps. The Chimps you see in movies, on tv shows and commercials are typically about 5 to 8 years old and have been trained since they were babies. By the time they reach teenagehood they become too independent to be handled and either shot or sold to road-side zoos where they live in cages meant for small animals.

Even professional animal handlers and trainers can't handle chimps when they reach this age, what the hell was a geriatric doing with one?

Chimps are very smart and very independent when they grow up and they become very dangerous.

Check out this documentary for some really good and very sad information about chimps: http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/cruelcamera/

If I was the local prosecutor I'd charge the old ding-bat with assualt and battery via a wild animal.

People have to learn that there is a difference between an domesticated animal and a wild animal. Even domestic animals can be unpredictable, and this idiot women thinks she can live with a 200lbs APE.

Chimps are apes. period.

They are strong as hell and males can be particularly violent.

Pure stupidity by this woman.

skpac1001
02-18-2009, 12:22 PM
If I was the local prosecutor I'd charge the old ding-bat with assualt and battery via a wild animal.

People have to learn that there is a difference between an domesticated animal and a wild animal. Even domestic animals can be unpredictable, and this idiot women thinks she can live with a 200lbs APE.

Chimps are apes. period.

They are strong as hell and males can be particularly violent.

Pure stupidity by this woman.

And that's not even taking into account how neurotic undomesticated animals become when taken out of their natural habitat and lifestyle.

baja
02-18-2009, 01:29 PM
I bet if given the situation I'd fiqure out how to kill that mother****er.

Well what ever you came up with would have to not involve use of your hands as they would be in the chimps stomach before you realized there was a problem.

rugbythug
02-18-2009, 01:38 PM
I just realized it was not the owner but her friend that was brutalized. That makes it so much worse.



As to the other topic. I would have taken that chimps eyes out. That our his nuts.

Karenin
02-18-2009, 01:38 PM
I bet if given the situation I'd fiqure out how to kill that mother****er.

No you wouldn't.

gyldenlove
02-18-2009, 01:39 PM
If I am the friend, I would go and rough up that old hag with my stumps when I got out of hospital. I would be so pissed if a monkey ate my hands.

rugbythug
02-18-2009, 01:50 PM
If I am the friend, I would go and rough up that old hag with my stumps when I got out of hospital. I would be so pissed if a monkey ate my hands.

This post made my day. Maybe things aren't as gloomy as I thought.

baja
02-18-2009, 01:53 PM
If I am the friend, I would go and rough up that old hag with my stumps when I got out of hospital. I would be so pissed if a monkey ate my hands.

Clearly he was jealous of the opposing thumbs design.

Garcia Bronco
02-18-2009, 01:55 PM
No you wouldn't.

Yeah I would. There are many simple ways to kill a primate like this. But you have to know what they are.

Garcia Bronco
02-18-2009, 01:59 PM
Well what ever you came up with would have to not involve use of your hands as they would be in the chimps stomach before you realized there was a problem.

You'd wouldn't be able to choke it to death. Your best immediate bet would be to protrude the brainstem. That would basically stop everything in seconds. A 70 year old woman isn't gong to be able to do that either unless she's had training. Whatever you do you have to be in quick and out quick and be prepared to move.

baja
02-18-2009, 02:11 PM
You'd wouldn't be able to choke it to death. Your best immediate bet would be to protrude the brainstem. That would basically stop everything in seconds. A 70 year old woman isn't gong to be able to do that either unless she's had training. Whatever you do you have to be in quick and out quick and be prepared to move.


Garcia no offense man but if you go head to head with this angry primate you will lose unless you got Mr. Colt with you.

baja
02-18-2009, 02:12 PM
An enraged 200 pound primate is not going to stand around while you insert your favorite ice pick into his brain stem and wiggle it around.

Rohirrim
02-18-2009, 02:16 PM
A 200 pound chimp could rip your arm right out of the socket.

gunns
02-18-2009, 02:26 PM
I don't mean to sound cold, but it always amazes me how people seem shocked by stories like this.

It is still a wild animal, no matter how trained or tamed it may seem.


I still wish the woman the best recovery possible.


Isn't that the truth. Until we humans stop thinking we are Lord and master over all or thinking these animals are humans. these things will continue, in zoo's, circus's, people's homes, etc. My dogs are a part of my family, but they are animals and although they are sweet, I watch them at all times because THEY ARE ANIMALS and do things and react to certain things differently than we do.

rugbythug
02-18-2009, 02:30 PM
Isn't that the truth. Until we humans stop thinking we are Lord and master over all or thinking these animals are humans. these things will continue, in zoo's, circus's, people's homes, etc. My dogs are a part of my family, but they are animals and although they are sweet, I watch them at all times because THEY ARE ANIMALS and do things and react to certain things differently than we do.


Not sure where you are going with that. But at this point I think it is safe to say we have won that belt.

rastaman
02-18-2009, 02:53 PM
No lie, when I was 23 a friend of mine from work asked me if I wanted to come over to his house and see his wild puma. I was like what. His brothers just bough a vacant home next to their parents home and were keeping it there. They found it as a cub stranded in the mountains in Payson, AZ. Took it home and were feeding it raw chicken meat. They kept that thing in the house for over a year. When I had went to see it, it was like 18 months old. The house smelled like hell on earth. I went inside and stood in a hallway as he walked around the corner to go get it. I thought he was gonna bring it out on a leash or in a cage or something. A minute later I hear something down the hall and as I'm looking over there, I see this MF mountain lion head peer around the corner.

HOLY $HIT was I freaked man, but I was totally frozen. Those yellow eyes were just glaring at me. It wasn't full grown yet but it was no cub either. It starts to turn the corner and walk towards me and my friend is behind it, no leash on that MF either. I'm saying to my friend WTF dude, get that ****ing thing away from me. So I'm starting to back up and there is a wall behind me. The lion jumps on me with his paws on my shoulders and he was as tall as I was (6'4"). I remember saying to my friend if he didn't get the lion off me I was gonna punch it in the face and make a break for the door because I was about ready to piss my pants. Friend walks over and is petting it's head and said the male lion just wants to suckle on my ear lobe (I have no idea why). So he gently bites down on my ear and is trying to suckle it. Meanwhile, his MF sharp ass claws are sorta digging into my shoulders. Finally he got him off me and out the door I went.

A few things I took from that experience was that when confronted with a true wild animal, sometimes you never know how you are gonna react. You say you will be a tough guy but more times then not you are frozen in your tracks with fear. Now if that lion had been attacking me, sure I would have tried to run for it or fight it but that wasn't the case. And the other thing I realized is just how bad lions smell. Gawd I hope I never have to smell that again. It's breath was disgusting. The eyes were almost evil looking man. Up close, when you are looking right into them in real life, it's down right terrifying.

But I still would have kicked that chimps ass - lol :strong:

Great story. I had the same type experience from a friend at work who just so happened to own a dog that was mixed with Mastiff and Great Dane!

Now for those of you who know how large Great Danes are, imagine the size of a Mastiff as well. The dog was only three years old, but already weighed over 230lbs. A dog that weighs 100 lbs is considered big. Although he was playful as hell and would roll over on his back to have his tummy rubbed......the dog was absolutely frightening and intimidating at first glance/encounter.

You could feel the pure strength of the dog while petting is coat. He wasn't leash trained either. Lucky my friend lived in the country. Of course the dog slobbered profusely and had the head of Mastiff, the body girth of a Mastiff and the height and long legs of Great Dane. Just an utterly weired and menacing looking dog.

Talking about screwing around with mother nature. Needless to say, the dog scared the living hell out of me. No way if that dog lunged/attacked me I could have defended myself, and I'm 6'0-225 and in good shape. It would have been "Child Abuse"!!!

This dog was amazingly fast and athletic as far as catching Frisbees and chasing down rubber balls. I only saw the dog once and moved away the following year to Japan. I've stayed in touch with my friend and over a two year period the half Mastiff-Great Dane grew to weigh 325 pounds. Just freaking incredible.

baja
02-18-2009, 02:57 PM
Great story. I had the same type experience from a friend at work who just so happened to own a dog that was mixed with Mastiff and Great Dane!

Now for those of you who know how large Great Danes are, imagine the size of a Mastiff as well. The dog was only three years old, but already weighed over 230lbs. A dog that weighs 100 lbs is considered big. Although he was playful as hell and would roll over on his back to have his tummy rubbed......the dog was absolutely frightening and intimidating at first glance/encounter.

You could feel the pure strength of the dog while petting is coat. He wasn't leash trained either. Lucky my friend lived in the country. Of course the dog slobbered profusely and had the head of Mastiff, the body girth of a Mastiff and the height and long legs of Great Dane. Just an utterly weired and menacing looking dog.

Talking about screwing around with mother nature. Needless to say, the dog scared the living hell out of me. No way if that dog lunged/attacked me I could have defended myself, and I'm 6'0-225 and in good shape. It would have been "Child Abuse"!!!

This dog was amazingly fast and athletic as far as catching Frisbees and chasing down rubber balls. I only saw the dog once and moved away the following year to Japan. I've stayed in touch with my friend and over a two year period the half Mastiff-Great Dane grew to weigh 325 pounds. Just freaking incredible.

Did he have a power tool to pick up the shiit?

Finger Roll
02-18-2009, 02:58 PM
that happened very close to where I live. about 15 minutes. Talk about bizarre.

rastaman
02-18-2009, 03:44 PM
Did he have a power tool to pick up the shiit?

Nope! Actually he was big enough and menacing enough to make the owner pick up the ****. That's how BIG DOGS ROLL.Ha!

Garcia Bronco
02-18-2009, 03:44 PM
You guys act like it's impossible, but it isn't.

TheDave
02-18-2009, 03:52 PM
I say we put Garcia in a cage with a 200 lb chimp and prove this...

I'll supply the cage, beer, and video camera... who's got access to a large primate?

rugbythug
02-18-2009, 03:53 PM
Any chance we could put Garcia in a cage with a 200 lb chimp and prove this?

I'll supply the cage, beer, and video camera... who's got access to a large primate?

He has beaten many many monkeys, way more than he will even admit to. It was an absolute spanking.

cutthemdown
02-18-2009, 03:56 PM
I say we put Garcia in a cage with a 200 lb chimp and prove this...

I'll supply the cage, beer, and video camera... who's got access to a large primate?

closest thing we have is Spider.

Br0nc0Buster
02-18-2009, 04:00 PM
You guys act like it's impossible, but it isn't.

highly unlikely

full grown chimps I think are at least 5 times the strength of a human

I wouldnt put my odds on ANY person, no matter what they are trained in, to take down with his bare hands an angry full grown male chimp

TDmvp
02-18-2009, 04:03 PM
Sorry Garcia , without a stroke of pure luck and a total lucky shot a chip would pown anyone ...
Anything that can rip someone hands off at the wrist is just to much.

Unless Garcia is going all death grip or something LOL
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q278/Fluxman/Fun%20found%20stuff/Vulcannervepinch.jpg

Br0nc0Buster
02-18-2009, 04:04 PM
Isn't that the truth. Until we humans stop thinking we are Lord and master over all or thinking these animals are humans. these things will continue, in zoo's, circus's, people's homes, etc. My dogs are a part of my family, but they are animals and although they are sweet, I watch them at all times because THEY ARE ANIMALS and do things and react to certain things differently than we do.

humans are animals....

Dogs are just a different species, and I am not sure why you hold homo sapiens to such high regard considering all the stupid stuff they do

I mean a dog may snap and tear a chunk of someone's skin off, but I have yet to see a dog unload in a crowd of people with a firearm

TheDave
02-18-2009, 04:06 PM
humans are animals....

Dogs are just a different species, and I am not sure why you hold homo sapiens to such high regard considering all the stupid stuff they do

I mean a dog may snap and tear a chunk of someone's skin off, but I have yet to see a dog unload in a crowd of people with a firearm

http://www.lilligren.com/Redneck/images/redneck_hunting_dog.jpg

Br0nc0Buster
02-18-2009, 04:07 PM
http://www.lilligren.com/Redneck/images/redneck_hunting_dog.jpg


Dick Cheney taught that one a few tricks it seems....

Garcia Bronco
02-18-2009, 04:10 PM
No, the chances of taking on the chimp with your bare hands is pretty low, but I didn't say that.

Br0nc0Buster
02-18-2009, 04:15 PM
No, the chances of taking on the chimp with your bare hands is pretty low, but I didn't say that.

oh my bad

worm
02-18-2009, 04:27 PM
closest thing we have is Spider.

I doubt Garcia's brain stem protrusion technique will work. There is no defense for the throat punch.

Advantage Spider.

cutthemdown
02-18-2009, 04:50 PM
I doubt Garcia's brain stem protrusion technique will work. There is no defense for the throat punch.

Advantage Spider.

If only that ole lady was versed in Wyoming jujitsu. It's all based on punches to the throat meant to disable the person ability to breath. IF A MAN CAN"T BREATH A MAN CAN'T FIGHT!!!! I'm sure that's true in Chimpdom as well.

Here's to animals everywhere killing humans!!!!!!!! We deserve it!!!!:peace:

gunns
02-18-2009, 05:08 PM
humans are animals....

Dogs are just a different species, and I am not sure why you hold homo sapiens to such high regard considering all the stupid stuff they do

I mean a dog may snap and tear a chunk of someone's skin off, but I have yet to see a dog unload in a crowd of people with a firearm


I don't hold them in high regard. My point was we humans hunt and trap these animals, and because we train them and raise them in society we expect them to react and act the way we do. And as this lady, raises it as a "child". Then when they act like what they are we act truly amazed. We then kill them for acting natural or the way we made them. Your last paragraph is exactly where I was going. The dog does it as his form of protection in a sense, it's what some dogs do in certain situations and sometimes we humans use that agression in a dog to achieve what we want. We are the stupid ones.

gyldenlove
02-18-2009, 05:48 PM
A 200 pound chimp could rip your arm right out of the socket.

and beat you to death with the wet end?

Finger Roll
02-18-2009, 07:01 PM
highly unlikely

full grown chimps I think are at least 5 times the strength of a human

I wouldnt put my odds on ANY person, no matter what they are trained in, to take down with his bare hands an angry full grown male chimp

you're right. They have great retard strength.

ShutDownPoster
02-18-2009, 07:36 PM
I agree. This is like when those magicians in Vegas got mauled by their tigers. It's a tiger; It's going to act like one.

This reminds me of an old joke a college buddy used to say: 'Why are Sigfried and Roy so good with Tigers? - Coz they started out with Gerbils' :D

vancejohnson82
02-19-2009, 07:13 AM
highly unlikely

full grown chimps I think are at least 5 times the strength of a human

I wouldnt put my odds on ANY person, no matter what they are trained in, to take down with his bare hands an angry full grown male chimp

the problem woudl really be getting your arms free to do anything...

chimps have incredible fighting instincts...it would grab your arms and try to bite off your face...

unfortunately, most of us have lost fighting instincts like that through years of being told "no biting" or "no ripping off arms"...

Bill Romanowski vs. A Chimp

TallyBronco
02-19-2009, 01:01 PM
Absolutely no fricking chance against a full grown male chimp.

I had a friend who worked at a large zoo, and on a tour she took meet back to get up close and personal with some of the residents, including one of the more well-behaved chimps.

I could not believe it when that thing touched my arm. He wasn't even squeezing but you could feel the power of something with super-human strength. Then on the way out we passed this room where one chimp saw her and threw himself against the plexiglass between them, apparently he was happy to see her. But that window shook like a rino had just run into it.

Garcia Bronco
02-19-2009, 01:48 PM
Can we all agree that a person trained witha Katana would defeat the Chimp easily?

SouthStndJunkie
02-19-2009, 02:02 PM
Can we all agree that a person trained witha Katana would defeat the Chimp easily?

What if the chimp was also trained with a Katana?

USAFBronco
02-19-2009, 02:18 PM
What if the chimp was also trained with a Katana?

We'd have one hell of a Pay per view event

TheDave
02-19-2009, 02:20 PM
http://punkeys.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/monkey-sword-fight.jpg

SouthStndJunkie
02-19-2009, 02:22 PM
We'd have one hell of a Pay per view event

It would probably look like the scene in 'Kill Bill' where The Bride took on the Crazy 88's.

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Garcia Bronco
02-19-2009, 02:36 PM
http://punkeys.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/monkey-sword-fight.jpg

LOL

Flex Gunmetal
02-19-2009, 02:40 PM
In the future, when the economy has been driven through the floor and oil is currency, when the left over new yorkers are hunting elk around the ruins of rockefeller center, humans will battle chimps in hand to hand combat to win their place in the postmodern caste society.
We will answer to one king, and his name shall be Garcia Bronco.

ohiobronco2
02-19-2009, 05:15 PM
In the future, when the economy has been driven through the floor and oil is currency, when the left over new yorkers are hunting elk around the ruins of rockefeller center, humans will battle chimps in hand to hand combat to win their place in the postmodern caste society.
We will answer to one king, and his name shall be Garcia Bronco.

LOL

Taco John
02-19-2009, 05:23 PM
Hiro Protagonist would make short work of that Chimp.

rubaiyat
02-19-2009, 05:49 PM
Not sure where you are going with that. But at this point I think it is safe to say we have won that belt.

As a species certainly, unless Phantoms is a documentary, as individuals not so much, and certainly wild animals don't respect titles.

Kaylore
02-19-2009, 05:55 PM
I think the people that shot this Chimp were racist because they thought it was the President.

rubaiyat
02-19-2009, 06:00 PM
Can we all agree that a person trained witha Katana would defeat the Chimp easily?

Would have to be well trained. This chimp got stabbed in the neck and still didn't stop. Apparently even getting shot multiple times didn't immediately stop him.

I mean it's not like real sword fighting involves neat decapitations. Odds certainly go up, from basically nil to in your favor assuming training, but I don't think it's even 99%.

I believe the news had a pitbull that was stabbed square in the head with a sword to no serious effect. Multiple other stabs wounds put it in the vet, but walking around just a short time later.