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Miss I.
02-16-2009, 07:06 PM
Admission is the first step to recovery or so I hear, so I am admitting right up front I really like horror movies, good, bad, really stupid which is what prompted this thread, I saw Friday the 13th last night as part of my girl's slumber party thing. Yeah, save yourself the money, it a typical mindless Michael Bay film. Other then production value improvement the film itself was still as dumb as the original (admittedly I was never a fan of the series, I thought it was a poor knock off of Halloween).

Anyway, so I thought I would pick random genres to start this off, if you think of others feel free to add them or whatever. I am certain I missing a lot, but it seemed like a good place to start a discussion.

Horror:
Best - Jaws, Psycho, Halloween (1978), Evil Dead and Evil Dead II
Worst - All the Friday the 13th, Sleepaway Camp series, oh so many....

Western:
Best: Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, The Searchers,
Worst: If it has Kevin Costner in it, chances are it's overwrought and overacted, The Quick and the Dead (despite having many very good actors was kind of lame)

Crime Films:
Best: Public Enemy, The Godfather, Casino, Goodfellas, LA Confidential, Maltese Falcon, Anything with Robert Mitchum, Double Indemnity, Memento, The Usual Suspects
Worst: The Godfather Part III

Drama:
Best: Casablanca, Schindler's List
Worst: Titanic (I just think this film was way overrated, decent acting and great set design and FX, but the story made me think Harlequin Romance)

Comedy:
Best: This is Spinal Tap, Tropic of Thunder, Ghostbusters, Caddyshack
Worst: Porky's, Police Academy and sequels

Rom-Comedy (or chickflicks or bromances):
Best: Bringing Up Baby, His Girl Friday, The Princess Bride
Worst: A lot of Meg Ryan's stuff is whiny and sappy

Action:
Best: Casino Royale, Bourne Films, Batman Begins, Die Hard
Worst: Top Gun, A lot of sequels to decent original films (like Lethal Weapon 4, etc)

Honorable Mentions:
Best: Fellini pretty much all, Seven Samurai, Like Water for Chocolate, Rebecca, Vertigo, North by Northwest, Charade

MagicHef
02-16-2009, 07:11 PM
Drama:
Best: Life Is Beautiful

Spider
02-16-2009, 07:26 PM
No list is complete until it has the toxic Avenger and the Rocky Horror picture show ;D I totally freaked out going to see the Rocky Horror picture show . it wasnt what I expected ;D

DomCasual
02-16-2009, 07:33 PM
Just off the top of my head...

Horror:
Best - Nightmare on Elm Street, Amityville Horror, Poltergeist (note, they all pretty much come from when I was a kid - now, horror films are just not that scary).
Worst - Pretty much most of them. Silent Night, Deadly Night comes to mind.

Western:
Best: Unforgiven
Worst: Brothers in Arms

Crime Films:
Best: Seven, The Usual Suspects
Worst: Nothing really comes to mind.

Drama:
Best: Shawshank; Cuckoo's Nest; Crash
Worst: Showgirls

Comedy:
Best: Big Lebowski
Worst: Leonard, Part Six (honestly, I think it's the worst movie I've ever seen)

Rom-Comedy (or chickflicks or bromances):
Best: Notting Hill (not sure why - just always liked it); She's Having a Baby
Worst: Fever F-ing Pitch

Action:
Best: Die Hard
Worst: Battlefield Earth

Inkana7
02-16-2009, 07:34 PM
Hey, **** you, I thought Dances with Wolves was powerful.

Florida_Bronco
02-16-2009, 07:35 PM
Black Hawk Down is probably the greatest war movie made in modern times.

Tombstone was a great Western too.

ohiobronco2
02-16-2009, 07:44 PM
Hey, **** you, I thought Dances with Wolves was powerful.

ROFL!

Miss I.
02-16-2009, 07:44 PM
Hey, **** you, I thought Dances with Wolves was powerful.

Okay. Though I am not a big fan of Dances with Wolves, I was actually thinking of Wyatt Earp, which I thought was overdone, except for Dennis Quaid. And I am not telling you not to like it. I know I like a lot of stuff that people don't and dislike a lot of things people really like (Titanic being one of those things I didn't like but most people do).

Seriously, it's all good, I like differing opinions and was hoping to start an interesting discussion (while perhaps getting some good recomendations) but the big f-u you just sent me seems a bit extreme.

ohiobronco2
02-16-2009, 07:46 PM
Redneck Zombies is the worst movie ever made. I know the title should have given it away.

ohiobronco2
02-16-2009, 07:47 PM
Okay. Though I am not a big fan of Dances with Wolves, I was actually thinking of Wyatt Earp, which I thought was overdone, except for Dennis Quaid. And I am not telling you not to like it. I know I like a lot of stuff that people don't and dislike a lot of things people really like (Titanic being one of those things I didn't like but most people do).

Seriously, it's all good, I like differing opinions and was hoping to start an interesting discussion (while perhaps getting some good recomendations) but the big f-u you just sent me seems a bit extreme.

I liked Silverado. One of Costners first films.

Miss I.
02-16-2009, 07:52 PM
I liked Silverado. One of Costners first films.

I forgot about that one. I like that too, but oh well, evidently now I am a trouble maker because I slammed the guy. I like Kevin Costner in some stuff I just think he has a limited range (he should not do accents, Robin Hood was hysterical because he kept switching his accent). I like him in Bull Durham, one of my favorite films actually and the Untouchables (not historically accurate by any means, but enjoyable to watch).

BroncoBuff
02-16-2009, 07:58 PM
I'll give you just my favorite movies ... no particluar order:

The Player
Lone Star
Nobody's Fool (Paul Newman one)
American Beauty
The Paper
Shawshank
Angel Eyes
L.A. Confidential
Wonder Boys
Dawn of the Dead (original)
The Sentinel (1977)
Hard Eight
Jacob's Ladder
Spanish Prisoner

cutthemdown
02-16-2009, 08:04 PM
Best war movie- Big Red One, Saving Private Ryan, Glory
Best Horror Movie- Alien
Best Western- Shane, Unforgiven, High Plains Drifter

SonOfLe-loLang
02-16-2009, 08:08 PM
I cant even begin to think of this list, but I will say Titanic is def. not the worst drama ever. Far from it. Perhaps not as good as the hype, but not the worst ever.

broncocalijohn
02-16-2009, 08:12 PM
Sorry Miss but Porky's first two were great comedies. I would add Revenge of the Nerds(I), Meet the Parents and My Cousin Vinnie. Most John Wayne movies for Westerns but add Big Red One and The Longest Day for Action/War to your list.
One of the worst films is Encino Man. I like Will Ferrell but I didnt get anything redeeming (for movie lines of course) from Step Brother. Glad that was only a $1 rental.

Sir Mawn
02-16-2009, 08:13 PM
A Fish Called Wanda, Lost in Translation.....

ohiobronco2
02-16-2009, 08:23 PM
I forgot about that one. I like that too, but oh well, evidently now I am a trouble maker because I slammed the guy. I like Kevin Costner in some stuff I just think he has a limited range (he should not do accents, Robin Hood was hysterical because he kept switching his accent). I like him in Bull Durham, one of my favorite films actually and the Untouchables (not historically accurate by any means, but enjoyable to watch).

:rofl: No. Costner has made some terrible films. He's not the worst actor out there, that title belongs to Keanu, but he is pretty bad in some of his roles.

Florida_Bronco
02-16-2009, 08:30 PM
Best war movie- Big Red One, Saving Private Ryan, Glory
Best Horror Movie- Alien
Best Western- Shane, Unforgiven, High Plains Drifter

Black Hawk Down was way better than Saving Private Ryan IMO. SPR had only a few scenes that matched the intensity that BHD kept up for the entire movie.

Garcia Bronco
02-16-2009, 08:47 PM
Star Wars changed the way movies are made. It's one of the best.

~Crash~
02-16-2009, 08:52 PM
Black Hawk Down is probably the greatest war movie made in modern times.

Tombstone was a great Western too.

yes it was great but you got the wrong actor lol Curt Russell rocked in Tombstone

Jens1893
02-16-2009, 08:56 PM
Black Hawk Down is probably the greatest war movie made in modern times.

Stalingrad or The Downfall IMO

Jens1893
02-16-2009, 09:04 PM
I donīt really know where Heat figures in here, but itīs one of my all-time favorite movies and you canīt really do much wrong when a movie has Robert de Niro and Al Pacino.

Animated: Ratatouille or Finding Nemo

Archer81
02-16-2009, 09:05 PM
Horror:
Best - 28 Days, 28 Weeks later, Dawn of the Dead, Aliens, Bram Stoker's Dracula
Worst - Black Sheep...

Western:
Best: Unforgiven, Tombstone
Worst: Not familiar enough to say, but anything with Kevin Costner...

Crime Films:
Best: Goodfellas, Usual Suspects, Heat
Worst: The Godfather Part III

Drama:
Best: Schindler's List
Worst: Titanic. I clapped when Leo drowns.

Comedy:
Best: Superbad, Tropic Thunder, Ghostbusters, Caddyshack, Office Space, American Pie
Worst: Police Academy, American Pie 2-4

Rom-Comedy (or chickflicks or bromances):
Best: Princess Bride,
Worst: Sleepless in Seattle, Runaway Bride

Action:
Best: Dark Knight, Terminator 2, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, Batman Begins, Braveheart, Blackhawk Down
Worst: Superman IV, Last Action Hero, Rambo 37, Rocky 5, Hamburger Hill, Platoon

Honorable Mention: Afro Samurai, Matrix, Elizabeth

:Broncos:

NFLBRONCO
02-16-2009, 09:08 PM
Where is scream that was good

DomCasual
02-16-2009, 09:17 PM
I donīt really know where Heat figures in here, but itīs one of my all-time favorite movies and you canīt really do much wrong when a movie has Robert de Niro and Al Pacino.

Animated: Ratatouille or Finding Nemo

Man, Monsters, Inc. is the best animated film of all time.

It doesn't hurt that my son loved it, and it was at a time when I was just barely getting my feet under myself as a dad.

slyinky
02-16-2009, 09:33 PM
If a movie is bad, I won't finish it. So it's hard to rate those. And since I am partial to certain genres, I'll just post my top 20 that I have rated on Criticker.

1. Mulholland Drive (2001)
2. The Silence of the Lambs (1991)
3. Pulp Fiction (1994)
4. Seven (1995)
5. Magnolia (1999)
6. Pan's Labyrinth (2006)
7. There Will Be Blood (2007)
8. A Tale of Two Sisters (2003)
9. Fargo (1996)
10. Memento (2001)
11. The Others (2001)
12. Little Children (2006)
13. Babel (2006)
14. Amores Perros (2000)
15. American Beauty (1999)
16. No Country for Old Men (2007)
17. 21 Grams (2003)
18. Raise the Red Lantern (1991)
19. Fight Club (1999)
20. Irreversible (2002)

Favorite comedies: The Big Lebowski (1998), Fast Times at Ridgemont High (1982), Groundhog Day (1993), Anchorman (2004), Dumb and Dumber (1994)

Jens1893
02-16-2009, 09:44 PM
Message in a Bottle is the only movie I have ever come close to walking out on.

SonOfLe-loLang
02-16-2009, 09:49 PM
Hmmm, I walked out on Jackie Brown and Thinner. Oh, that first Narnia movie too. And one of the star wars prequels...cant remember which one, it doesnt matter, they were all insulting to my intelligence

NFLBRONCO
02-16-2009, 09:51 PM
Spaceballs and Night Patrol I walked out on.

Jens1893
02-16-2009, 09:52 PM
Hmmm, I walked out on Jackie Brown and Thinner. Oh, that first Narnia movie too. And one of the star wars prequels...cant remember which one, it doesnt matter, they were all insulting to my intelligence

Must have been Episode 1. Episode 2 was soso, Episode 3 was pretty decent IMO.

cutthemdown
02-16-2009, 09:53 PM
Black Hawk Down was way better than Saving Private Ryan IMO. SPR had only a few scenes that matched the intensity that BHD kept up for the entire movie.

I like that one also, but it was already listed so I went with some other favorites.

I do like to argue but I draw the line doing it over movies so go ahead and slip black hawk down in between. :pimp:

What I love about Big Red One was all the little symbolism's they use throughout the movie. I think it really makes it's point about how war becomes just a bunch of men trying not to die while at the same time not being a coward.

cutthemdown
02-16-2009, 09:55 PM
Hmmm, I walked out on Jackie Brown and Thinner. Oh, that first Narnia movie too. And one of the star wars prequels...cant remember which one, it doesnt matter, they were all insulting to my intelligence

Jackie Brown not one of my favorite movies but not bad enough to walk out on. The first Star Wars prequel I was pretty much laughing through but took my young nephews so I couldn't walk out. Narnia!!!! lol I wouldn't be caught dead paying money to see something like that.

I have to admit though I sort of like the Harry Potter movies.

cutthemdown
02-16-2009, 09:59 PM
I heard the Hobbit is being made by same dude who did Pans Labyrinth. I have a good feeling this movie will be really good, and huge at the box office.

DomCasual
02-16-2009, 10:31 PM
We walked out on that stupid movie about the guy who stole the statue's head in World War II. It was so bad, I can't remember the name of it. I thought the preview looked great - but it was just stupid. You're paying a babysitter for precious free time - you cut your losses early in the process. I think we ended up going to the mall.

Hogan11
02-16-2009, 10:51 PM
Only movie I ever walked out on was Joe Versus The Volcano absolutely terrible.

I wanted to walk out on The Doors because of Stone's distortions of the story (not to mention Kilmer's horrible Morrison imitation) but was too pissed off to do so. I'd been suckered, might as well stay for the full thing.

Someone mentioned Leonard, Part 6...oh Man, what a terrible film, caught that one on HBO back in the day.

Other dishonorable mentions:
Surf Nazis Must Die
Caddyshack 2
Any Meatballs sequal
The Rocky Horror Picture Show

~Crash~
02-16-2009, 11:00 PM
movies that made me go wow just wow phantasm and Damon ....

Hogan11
02-16-2009, 11:16 PM
movies that made me go wow just wow phantasm and Damon ....

Phantasm is one of those films for me that's a great unintended comedy now....absolutely hilarious. Ranks right up there with Saturday Night Fever (especially the edited for TV version) and Roadhouse as must see, hilarious train wreck TV (Only difference being that I actually liked Phantasm the first time around, although it's pretty cheesy now).

footstepsfrom#27
02-16-2009, 11:21 PM
Best movie I've ever seen: The Color Purple
Worst movie I've ever seen: Napolean Dynamite

TheReverend
02-17-2009, 05:51 AM
Best Comedy: Super Troopers, Dirty Work
Best "Epic": Braveheart, Gladiator ("ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!?!?!")

B-Love
02-17-2009, 06:55 AM
Almost 2 full pages and not one mention of the greatest scare film of all time, The Exorcist.

Just rented it this past Friday for a Friday the 13th sleepover party, and it just impactful.

How can no one else mention The Exorcist?

Northman
02-17-2009, 07:12 AM
Horror:
Best- Suspiria, Nightmare on Elm St., The Exorcist
Worst- My Bloody Valentine

Comedy:
Best- Grandma's Boy, Superbad, Joe Dirt, Tommy Boy
Worst- Naked Gun

Ill get more later.

Northman
02-17-2009, 07:13 AM
Almost 2 full pages and not one mention of the greatest scare film of all time, The Exorcist.

Just rented it this past Friday for a Friday the 13th sleepover party, and it just impactful.

How can no one else mention The Exorcist?


I did, you beat me to it. lol

Kaylore
02-17-2009, 07:16 AM
Some of my favorites: The Manchurian Candidate, Casablanca, High Noon, Notorious, The Third Man, Chinatown, Dr. Strangelove, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, Ghostbusters, Back to the future, The Princess Bride, Glory, The Usual Suspects, Red, The Color of Paradise, Gladiator, About Schmidt

Worst movies: Easy Rider, Natural Born Killers, The Recruit, Pearl Harbor, The Blair Witch Project.

Best "crappy" movies to see: Any of the Mad Max series but especially the first two, Dungeons and Dragons, Battlefield Earth, Merlin's Shop of Mystical Wonders (MST3K) version.

Kaylore
02-17-2009, 07:21 AM
If a movie is bad, I won't finish it. So it's hard to rate those. And since I am partial to certain genres, I'll just post my top 20 that I have rated on Criticker.

1. Mulholland Drive (2001)
2. The Silence of the Lambs (1991)
3. Pulp Fiction (1994)
4. Seven (1995)
5. Magnolia (1999)
6. Pan's Labyrinth (2006)
7. There Will Be Blood (2007)
8. A Tale of Two Sisters (2003)
9. Fargo (1996)
10. Memento (2001)
11. The Others (2001)
12. Little Children (2006)
13. Babel (2006)
14. Amores Perros (2000)
15. American Beauty (1999)
16. No Country for Old Men (2007)
17. 21 Grams (2003)
18. Raise the Red Lantern (1991)
19. Fight Club (1999)
20. Irreversible (2002)

Favorite comedies: The Big Lebowski (1998), Fast Times at Ridgemont High (1982), Groundhog Day (1993), Anchorman (2004), Dumb and Dumber (1994)
Not a single movie made before 1980. You're cheating yourself on some great stuff. I recommend you go to Netflix or some other kind of rating site. Sit down and rate 100 movies and then let them recommend some classics. I can tell by your choices that you'll appreciate many of them.

ohiobronco2
02-17-2009, 07:23 AM
Horror:
Best- Suspiria, Nightmare on Elm St., The Exorcist
Worst- My Bloody Valentine

Comedy:
Best- Grandma's Boy, Superbad, Joe Dirt, Tommy Boy
Worst- Naked Gun

Ill get more later.

Remake or original?

ohiobronco2
02-17-2009, 07:24 AM
We walked out on that stupid movie about the guy who stole the statue's head in World War II. It was so bad, I can't remember the name of it. I thought the preview looked great - but it was just stupid. You're paying a babysitter for precious free time - you cut your losses early in the process. I think we ended up going to the mall.

Is that the Spike Lee film? Miracle at St. Anna, or something like that.

DenverBrit
02-17-2009, 07:48 AM
Worst comedy: Anything Will Farrell touched. ZZZ...

jonny1
02-17-2009, 08:14 AM
Hey, nobody has put up musicals as a genre . . . .

Best: West Side Story, Singing in the Rain
Worst: Grease 2, Newboys

~Crash~
02-17-2009, 08:21 AM
Phantasm is one of those films for me that's a great unintended comedy now....absolutely hilarious. Ranks right up there with Saturday Night Fever (especially the edited for TV version) and Roadhouse as must see, hilarious train wreck TV (Only difference being that I actually liked Phantasm the first time around, although it's pretty cheesy now).

when I was 12 or 13 it scared the hell out me .

bronco_diesel
02-17-2009, 08:22 AM
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan


who woulda figured :)

Garcia Bronco
02-17-2009, 08:22 AM
Some of my favorites: The Manchurian Candidate, Casablanca, High Noon, Notorious, The Third Man, Chinatown, Dr. Strangelove, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, Ghostbusters, Back to the future, The Princess Bride, Glory, The Usual Suspects, Red, The Color of Paradise, Gladiator, About Schmidt

Worst movies: Easy Rider, Natural Born Killers, The Recruit, Pearl Harbor, The Blair Witch Project.

Best "crappy" movies to see: Any of the Mad Max series but especially the first two, Dungeons and Dragons, Battlefield Earth, Merlin's Shop of Mystical Wonders (MST3K) version.


I had to watch Easy Rider for a film class. I told the instructer it was complete crap and he gave me an F.

Ramathorn
02-17-2009, 08:26 AM
You can not have a best comedy list without Super Troopers. Best of all time!

~Crash~
02-17-2009, 08:27 AM
blazing saddles is as good as it gets . ''Badges , we don't need no stink'n badges''

bowtown
02-17-2009, 08:30 AM
Only movie I ever walked out on was Joe Versus The Volcano absolutely terrible.

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Most misunderstood and underappreciated movie of all time, hands down.

DomCasual
02-17-2009, 08:37 AM
Is that the Spike Lee film? Miracle at St. Anna, or something like that.

Exactly! Did you see it?

Northman
02-17-2009, 08:46 AM
Remake or original?

original

bowtown
02-17-2009, 08:54 AM
My Top 10 - off the top of my head (in no particular order)

Raising Arizona
The Long Goodby
The Cable Guy
The Dark Knight
Godfather I
Texas Chainsaw Massacre (Original)
The Jerk
Don't Look Now
Straw Dogs
Rainman

Archer81
02-17-2009, 09:29 AM
blazing saddles is as good as it gets . ''Badges , we don't need no stink'n badges''



THE SHERRIFF'S A *BWAONGGGGGGGG
The sherriff is near!



:Broncos:

Archer81
02-17-2009, 09:31 AM
I tend to avoid anything by Oliver Stone. I want to be entertained, not bored to tears.

:Broncos:

bowtown
02-17-2009, 09:34 AM
I tend to avoid anything by Oliver Stone. I want to be entertained, not bored to tears.

:Broncos:

Yet Midnight Express was nothing short of fantastic... though that was a young Oliver Stone, The Writer, not Oliver Stone, The Director.

Kaylore
02-17-2009, 09:36 AM
I had to watch Easy Rider for a film class. I told the instructer it was complete crap and he gave me an F.

Was he a baby boomer? Baby boomer's get really pissed if you rip on Easy Rider. You can get the same reaction when you tell them Bob Dylan sucks. Those, along with some other things, are sacred to them.

Archer81
02-17-2009, 09:37 AM
Yet Midnight Express was nothing short of fantastic... though that was a young Oliver Stone, The Writer, not Oliver Stone, The Director.


Oliver Stone, The Director needs to call it quits. He could have done alot more with Alexander than he did...


:Broncos:

bowtown
02-17-2009, 09:41 AM
I forgot about that one. I like that too, but oh well, evidently now I am a trouble maker because I slammed the guy. I like Kevin Costner in some stuff I just think he has a limited range (he should not do accents, Robin Hood was hysterical because he kept switching his accent). I like him in Bull Durham, one of my favorite films actually and the Untouchables (not historically accurate by any means, but enjoyable to watch).

Agreed: Bill Durham, Untouchables and Tin Cup. Can't think of a single other decent Costner flick, and that includes Dances with Boredom.

crazyhorse
02-17-2009, 09:46 AM
An under rated movie IMO is Idiocracy. That movie is a riot.

Northman
02-17-2009, 09:49 AM
I had to watch Easy Rider for a film class. I told the instructer it was complete crap and he gave me an F.

:rofl:

Now that is funny.

Hogan11
02-17-2009, 10:00 AM
Most misunderstood and underappreciated movie of all time, hands down.

Not without good reason, it flat out stunk.

Hogan11
02-17-2009, 10:02 AM
I had to watch Easy Rider for a film class. I told the instructer it was complete crap and he gave me an F.

I agree, it hasn't aged very well at all.

Spider should love it though, afterall...he was ga - ga over Tony Basil as a 40+ yr. old in a cheerleader outfit, here he could see what she looked like in her 20's, and naked no less.

ohiobronco2
02-17-2009, 10:03 AM
Exactly! Did you see it?

Nope. I'm not a big fan of Spike. Especially after he went after a Hollywood legend in an attempt to gain pub for his picture.

DomCasual
02-17-2009, 10:03 AM
Some of my favorites: The Manchurian Candidate, Casablanca, High Noon, Notorious, The Third Man, Chinatown, Dr. Strangelove, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, Ghostbusters, Back to the future, The Princess Bride, Glory, The Usual Suspects, Red, The Color of Paradise, Gladiator, About Schmidt

Worst movies: Easy Rider, Natural Born Killers, The Recruit, Pearl Harbor, The Blair Witch Project.

Best "crappy" movies to see: Any of the Mad Max series but especially the first two, Dungeons and Dragons, Battlefield Earth, Merlin's Shop of Mystical Wonders (MST3K) version.

The ending of Mad Max is awesome. I spent many a quiet moment as an adolescent wondering if I could have sawed off a limb before the car blew up.

DomCasual
02-17-2009, 10:05 AM
Nope. I'm not a big fan of Spike. Especially after he went after a Hollywood legend in an attempt to gain pub for his picture.

Awful movie. I didn't realize he was responsible for it.

I was on this little puddle jumper flight with him once. It was awesome to see him crammed in an airplane with nineteen seats.

DomCasual
02-17-2009, 10:06 AM
Best movie I've ever seen: The Color Purple
Worst movie I've ever seen: Napolean Dynamite

Ban this SOB! BAN HIM!

DenVa BroncHoos
02-17-2009, 10:27 AM
I donīt really know where Heat figures in here, but itīs one of my all-time favorite movies and you canīt really do much wrong when a movie has Robert de Niro and Al Pacino.

Animated: Ratatouille or Finding Nemo

somebody has kids!

Miss I.
02-17-2009, 10:35 AM
Remake or original?

Never saw the original myself, but the remake was pretty stupid.

SonOfLe-loLang
02-17-2009, 10:37 AM
Agreed: Bill Durham, Untouchables and Tin Cup. Can't think of a single other decent Costner flick, and that includes Dances with Boredom.

Upside of Anger was rather good

SonOfLe-loLang
02-17-2009, 10:37 AM
Ban this SOB! BAN HIM!

I have to agree with footsteps, i thought Napoleon was complete ****e

Miss I.
02-17-2009, 10:45 AM
Some of my favorites: The Manchurian Candidate, Casablanca, High Noon, Notorious, The Third Man, Chinatown, Dr. Strangelove, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, Ghostbusters, Back to the future, The Princess Bride, Glory, The Usual Suspects, Red, The Color of Paradise, Gladiator, About Schmidt

Worst movies: Easy Rider, Natural Born Killers, The Recruit, Pearl Harbor, The Blair Witch Project.

Best "crappy" movies to see: Any of the Mad Max series but especially the first two, Dungeons and Dragons, Battlefield Earth, Merlin's Shop of Mystical Wonders (MST3K) version.

Wow, some of those are my favorites too. Presumably by Manchurian Candidate you mean the original with Sinatra. Notorious is an excellent film as well. The Third man is also great. When Welles is hitting on all cylinders he does so very well.

And your worst movies, so with you. I thought I might be the only one who thought Natural Born Killers was an overrated Stone-Tarantino Film. (Tarantine wrote it). I studied it in film school for violence in media.

And MST3K, man that show kills me, I love bad movies sometimes. As a kid watched some really awful stuff in LA on KTLA I think, like the Elvira stuff...ahhh

Kid A
02-17-2009, 10:58 AM
An under rated movie IMO is Idiocracy. That movie is a riot.

Despite being from the Office Space guys, they didn't keep that one in theaters very long. Probably afraid of offending too many people (as well as corporations like Starbucks). Still, a nice find on DVD.

It has electrolytes.

DomCasual
02-17-2009, 11:06 AM
I have to agree with footsteps, i thought Napoleon was complete ****e

Honestly, it's the most quotable movie in twenty years. I didn't like it as much the first time I saw it. But with kids and lots of nephews and nieces, I bet I've seen it twenty times. It's the kind of movie that gets better with familiarity.

SonOfLe-loLang
02-17-2009, 11:09 AM
Honestly, it's the most quotable movie in twenty years. I didn't like it as much the first time I saw it. But with kids and lots of nephews and nieces, I bet I've seen it twenty times. It's the kind of movie that gets better with familiarity.

I'll have to take your word for it...i turned it off during my first viewing, but lots of people do enjoy it, so its not like i think people are crazy for not liking it...i just dont

SonOfLe-loLang
02-17-2009, 11:10 AM
Despite being from the Office Space guys, they didn't keep that one in theaters very long. Probably afraid of offending too many people (as well as corporations like Starbucks). Still, a nice find on DVD.

It has electrolytes.

It was barely in the theaters at ALL. I saw it opening week and you know what it was titled at the theater? "THE UNTITLED MIKE JUDGE MOVIE" Fox BURIED this movie and im still not sure why. I tried to ask someone in our film publicity dept here and they wouldnt even tell me. Something screwy went on.

Kaylore
02-17-2009, 11:27 AM
The ending of Mad Max is awesome. I spent many a quiet moment as an adolescent wondering if I could have sawed off a limb before the car blew up.

I love how he turns into Mcguyver at the end to set that all up. It's like one of those crazy mouse trap contraptions. And you gotta love his boss and his homo-erotic outfit. That movie is hilarious.

And MST3K, man that show kills me, I love bad movies sometimes. As a kid watched some really awful stuff in LA on KTLA I think, like the Elvira stuff...ahhh
They really have some good ones and watching a bad movie can sometimes teach as much about movie making as watching a masterpiece. It makes that process enjoyable.

And of course I mean the Sinatra version. :)

lex
02-17-2009, 01:00 PM
Admission is the first step to recovery or so I hear, so I am admitting right up front I really like horror movies, good, bad, really stupid which is what prompted this thread, I saw Friday the 13th last night as part of my girl's slumber party thing. Yeah, save yourself the money, it a typical mindless Michael Bay film. Other then production value improvement the film itself was still as dumb as the original (admittedly I was never a fan of the series, I thought it was a poor knock off of Halloween).

Anyway, so I thought I would pick random genres to start this off, if you think of others feel free to add them or whatever. I am certain I missing a lot, but it seemed like a good place to start a discussion.

Horror:
Best - Jaws, Psycho, Halloween (1978), Evil Dead and Evil Dead II...REC Rec, is supposed to be one of the scariest movies ever made...its also hard to get here in the states.
Worst - All the Friday the 13th, Sleepaway Camp series, oh so many....

Western:
Best: Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, The Searchers, ....A Fistful of Dollars, Shane, For A Few Dollars More, The Good The Bad and The Ugly, The Outlaw Josey Wales,
Worst: If it has Kevin Costner in it, chances are it's overwrought and overacted, The Quick and the Dead (despite having many very good actors was kind of lame)

Crime Films:
Best: Public Enemy, The Godfather, Casino, Goodfellas, LA Confidential, Maltese Falcon, Anything with Robert Mitchum, Double Indemnity, Memento, The Usual Suspects... Scarface, Seven, Dial M for Murder
Worst: The Godfather Part III

Drama:
Best: Casablanca, Schindler's List...Shawshank, The Lives of Others, Tell No One
Worst: Titanic (I just think this film was way overrated, decent acting and great set design and FX, but the story made me think Harlequin Romance)

Comedy:
Best: This is Spinal Tap, Tropic of Thunder, Ghostbusters, Caddyshack...Napolean Dynamite, Blazing Saddles, Kelly's Heroes,
Worst: Porky's, Police Academy and sequels

Rom-Comedy (or chickflicks or bromances):
Best: Bringing Up Baby, His Girl Friday, The Princess Bride
Worst: A lot of Meg Ryan's stuff is whiny and sappy

Action:
Best: Casino Royale, Bourne Films, Batman Begins, Die Hard...Gladiator, The Professional Worst: Top Gun, A lot of sequels to decent original films (like Lethal Weapon 4, etc)

Honorable Mentions:
Best: Fellini pretty much all, Seven Samurai, Like Water for Chocolate, Rebecca, Vertigo, North by Northwest, Charade

Added whats bolded.

cutthemdown
02-17-2009, 01:20 PM
Like music there are so many good movies by now almost impossible to rank them. It comes down to what that movie means to you, when you say it, who you saw it with etc.

Khan mentioned Wrath of Khan. That's a good movie but best all time? to me maybe so because its the first movie I actually took my dad to see with my own money. You remember things like that from growing up.

Not to mention its the best of the Star Trek movies by far.

Hey Khan bet your looking forward to that new Star Trek. I gotta say it looks pretty good.

Pick Six
02-17-2009, 01:38 PM
I've never figured out why Napoleon Dynamite has become a cult classic. "Vote for Pedro" has become THE catch phrase, but it wasn't even that funny, IMO.

Anyway, some of my favorite comedies include The Blues Brothers, Blazing Saddles, Animal House, and The Three Amigos.

My favorite superhero movies would include the first two Spider-Man movies. I didn't care much for the last one.

My favorite movies which could be considered "chick movies" include The Breakfast Club and The Princess Bride.

My favorite horror movies are ones that make me laugh. That includes all the Nightmare On Elm Street movies.

My favorite science-fiction/fantasy movies are the Star Wars saga and MOST of the Star Trek movies. I consider the first Star Trek movie to be one of the worst movies of all time.

Action movies would include the Die Hard series.

The most recent movie I walked out on was a Damon Wayans movie called Blankman. That was AWFUL...

Kaylore
02-17-2009, 01:50 PM
Hey Khan bet your looking forward to that new Star Trek. I gotta say it looks pretty good.

I'm not getting my hopes up. It looked a little too Tom Cruise/Mission impossible from the previews, but I do like Zachary Quinto. I'm ok with it being a remake. I'll give it a fair shot, but I'm not expecting the Wrath of Khan. It's going to be crazy some of the new characters. Rachel Nichols is gorgeous. Eomer from Lord of the Rings is bad ass and he plays Bones. I'm not sold on Chris Pine. He seems a little "Bro-ha" to me. We'll see.

Miss I.
02-17-2009, 06:46 PM
Okay I forgot 2 more of my faves, To Kill a Mockingbird and The Philadelphia Story.

broncocalijohn
02-17-2009, 10:35 PM
Worst comedy: Anything Will Farrell touched. ZZZ...

I will agree on Step Brothers but Wedding Crashers was a great small bit. Old School will be a classic and he was awesome in it. Many people like Anchorman and I thought he did better than what the overall movie was (rated). Talledega Nights was a funny movie. Young KIds love Kicking and Screaming (I didnt mind it too much myself). You are just plain wrong!!!! OLD SCHOOL IS ONE FOR THE AGES...Bank on it! I also forgot one of my fav comedies (from page 1) is Train, Planes and Automobiles. How I miss John Candy but luckily have this one, Uncle Buck, Stripes and the mermaid movie with Tom Hanks. Uncle Buck showcased Candy to a T.

ohiobronco2
02-25-2009, 08:05 PM
So, I rented when a stranger calls last night. I heard about it on ESPN radio a couple of weeks ago. Greeny thought it was really scary. I watched it and wasn't scared till the very end, when the killer was in bed beside her. Any other scary movies I should tackle?

OABB
02-25-2009, 09:29 PM
worst movie:crash(yes the "best picture" one)
(it has electrolytes...)


best movie:network

McDman
02-25-2009, 09:30 PM
Agreed: Bill Durham, Untouchables and Tin Cup. Can't think of a single other decent Costner flick, and that includes Dances with Boredom.

Dude, Field of Dreams was a great movie.

McDman
02-25-2009, 09:34 PM
How has no one mentioned Tombstone, that movie was amazing.


I'm your huckleberry.

Florida_Bronco
02-25-2009, 09:43 PM
How has no one mentioned Tombstone, that movie was amazing.


I'm your huckleberry.

It is a great movie, but it's been mentioned several times here in this thread. ;)

cutthemdown
02-25-2009, 09:43 PM
Agreed: Bill Durham, Untouchables and Tin Cup. Can't think of a single other decent Costner flick, and that includes Dances with Boredom.

American Flyers and No Way Out were decent movies. So was A Perfect World and 3000 Miles to Graceland. Also Open Range was also a really good movie IMO.

OABB
02-25-2009, 09:47 PM
American Flyers and No Way Out were decent movies. So was A Perfect World and 3000 Miles to Graceland. Also Open Range was also a really good movie IMO.

yeah what's with the costner hate here? there are plenty of actors that have made far worse movies.

like for instance, anyone that was in the movie "crash" or ben affleck.

cutthemdown
02-25-2009, 10:20 PM
I'm not getting my hopes up. It looked a little too Tom Cruise/Mission impossible from the previews, but I do like Zachary Quinto. I'm ok with it being a remake. I'll give it a fair shot, but I'm not expecting the Wrath of Khan. It's going to be crazy some of the new characters. Rachel Nichols is gorgeous. Eomer from Lord of the Rings is bad ass and he plays Bones. I'm not sold on Chris Pine. He seems a little "Bro-ha" to me. We'll see.

Wrath of Kahn is not only best Star Trek movie but also one of the best space/sci fi movies ever IMO. That was the first movie took my dad to that I paid for. I don't know the actors like you do I just read the spent a ton of money on it. Hopefully it will be good.

So it's a remake of a story we already have seen on a previous star trek? Or just a remake as in they are using same characters?

OrangeRising
02-25-2009, 11:51 PM
Unforgiven and High Noon are two Westerns I can watch whenever they show up on the schedule. They never get old even when you can recite the script along with the actors.

Casablanca is a romance/drama, but it's still one of the most captivating screenplays ever put on film. It may also have the best song ever in a film; "As Time Goes By".

Haven't really watched too many horror flicks, but I have to admit the Exorcist scared the bejesus out me.
Saving Pvt. Ryan is a great, great War film, but the end-all for me has always been Patton.

Comedy is tough because there are so many outstanding ones out there, but Dr. Strangelove remains one I can watch again & again, along with the original Peter Sellers Pink Panther series.

GreatBronco16
02-26-2009, 12:14 AM
One movie that I would like to add cause I didn't see it listed is Firefox with Clint Eastwood. I love almost all of his movies. Even Space Cowboys was pretty good for a bunch of old guys.Ha!

OrangeRising
02-26-2009, 12:26 AM
I forgot the the worst, and it's trans-genre'. Little joke there. Very little actually, but still. It's so bad it stinks up anything around it on a schedule because you can accidently land on the channel somehow. It can leave you glad you're alone, wanting to stay alone and even shun women for months afterward. It's awful beyond the definition of the word, and even with all that, it still made a lot of money. I hate to even say it as though it might evoke bad movie spirits or something.

Love Story

Simply the most sappy, poorly written, God awful garbage ever thrust on the consumer. I only watched it once and not even all of it. With a lady friend who said it like Casablanca in it's intensity and feeling. We don't see each other anymore. When the girl said 'Love means never having to say you're sorry" I laughed until I wretched, and then she poured a soda over my head and left. I didn't watch the rest of that thing. I suggest you write it down and banish anyone who even suggests it.

UberBroncoMan
02-26-2009, 03:12 AM
Star Wars changed the way movies are made. It's one of the best.

Unfortunately the prequels (and the Ewoks) brought attention on how to make a classic franchise suck by milking it out of its principals and turning it into a kiddo flick that ended with a high school flick.

I think Lucas started going down the deep-end in 1982-1983 and then became a complete moron between 1989 and 1999.

16slayer24
02-26-2009, 04:43 AM
forrest gump armageddon animal house where the red fern grows star wars rocky jaws die hard remember the titans rudy list goes on and on too many great flix too pick just a few

BMarsh615
02-26-2009, 04:45 AM
Pootie Tang is the worst movie of all time.

SleepingTiger
02-26-2009, 05:06 AM
Spaceballs and Night Patrol I walked out on.

u crazy, spaceballs is a classic. how can you beat the schwartz??

SleepingTiger
02-26-2009, 06:05 AM
here are some of the best movies nobody mentioned that should be considered.

drama:
gone with the wind
ben hur
cleopatra
passion

war movies:
the longest day
battle of the bulge
where eagles dare
dirty dozen
sniper

action:
troy
war of the worlds (remake)
ronin (some of the best car chase scenes)
mad max 1 and 2
terminator 1 and 2
indiana jones 1 and 3
red heat
conan the barbarian
predator
transformers
batman begins
iron man

martial arts:
once upon a time in china 1 and 2
iron monkey
fearless
any bruce lee movie
bloodsport (kumite kumite)
above the law

horror:
night of the living dead (original)
6th sense

comedy:
trading places
spies like us
ace ventura 1 and 2

anime:
ninja scroll
vampire hunter d
macross plus
transformers the movie

SleepingTiger
02-26-2009, 06:27 AM
worst movies:

alexander
the blair witch project
indiana jones kingdom of the crystal skulls
red sonja
conan the destroyer
batman forever, batman n robin

Miss I.
02-26-2009, 10:14 AM
yeah what's with the costner hate here? there are plenty of actors that have made far worse movies.

like for instance, anyone that was in the movie "crash" or ben affleck.

This is true, there are many worse, many more overrated actors then Costner. Tom Cruise for one annoys me to no end, though I have found a few of his films pretty decent.

My issue with Costner is his occasional self importance and lack of ability to do an accent. He should just accept his limitations (he can't do accents, that's okay, but don't do them). I started this by implying his westerns were not done well, were overwrought and overacted. I think they were overrated frankly. Dances with Wolves was long and frankly a little too politically kiss butt for me...was it all bad, the worst western of all time, no, but neither did I think it warranted the love fest it got. I felt the same way about American Beauty the first time I saw it, it was okay, but pompous, patronizing and particulary mysoginistic in its portrayal of middle american housewives. I thought both were overrated and overhyped. Not worst films, but not nearly as much as was made of both. Unforgiven for my money was the best modern Western because it both embodied the traits of tradtitional westerns but also invited a more accurate analysis of western film tropes. I think Dances with wolves was Kevin Costner in love with himself. That's why he annoys me, but I think he's gotten better in a lot of ways and I like quite a few of his films Tom Cruise I cannot stand and like some of his films in spite of his presence, whereas generally I can say I have liked Kevin Costner's performances (as long as they don't involve him doing an accent, remaking Mad Max on water, or generally being full of himself).

Miss I.
02-26-2009, 10:15 AM
Pootie Tang is the worst movie of all time.

Pretty sure that belongs to Gigli...Man that movie sucked

DenverBrit
02-26-2009, 10:19 AM
I will agree on Step Brothers but Wedding Crashers was a great small bit. Old School will be a classic and he was awesome in it. Many people like Anchorman and I thought he did better than what the overall movie was (rated). Talledega Nights was a funny movie. Young KIds love Kicking and Screaming (I didnt mind it too much myself). You are just plain wrong!!!! OLD SCHOOL IS ONE FOR THE AGES...Bank on it! I also forgot one of my fav comedies (from page 1) is Train, Planes and Automobiles. How I miss John Candy but luckily have this one, Uncle Buck, Stripes and the mermaid movie with Tom Hanks. Uncle Buck showcased Candy to a T.

Comedy is subjective, I just don't think Farrel is funny.
Steve Martin stunk it up in the awful Pink Panther, yet there's a Pink Panther II.
No accounting for taste. ;D

Oh, I didn't like Jerry Lewis either.

DenverBrit
02-26-2009, 10:20 AM
Pootie Tang is the worst movie of all time.

The Title wasn't a give away?? Hilarious!

bowtown
02-26-2009, 10:22 AM
Most overrated: Anything and everything that Kevin Smith's sausage hands touch.

Kaylore
02-26-2009, 10:25 AM
Wrath of Kahn is not only best Star Trek movie but also one of the best space/sci fi movies ever IMO. That was the first movie took my dad to that I paid for. I don't know the actors like you do I just read the spent a ton of money on it. Hopefully it will be good.

So it's a remake of a story we already have seen on a previous star trek? Or just a remake as in they are using same characters?

I guess they're starting it over with a new cast. The story is new and I guess they're just glossing over the Christopher Pike thing. It will be interesting.

Kaylore
02-26-2009, 10:26 AM
This is true, there are many worse, many more overrated actors then Costner. Tom Cruise for one annoys me to no end, though I have found a few of his films pretty decent.

My issue with Costner is his occasional self importance and lack of ability to do an accent. He should just accept his limitations (he can't do accents, that's okay, but don't do them). I started this by implying his westerns were not done well, were overwrought and overacted. I think they were overrated frankly. Dances with Wolves was long and frankly a little too politically kiss butt for me...was it all bad, the worst western of all time, no, but neither did I think it warranted the love fest it got. I felt the same way about American Beauty the first time I saw it, it was okay, but pompous, patronizing and particulary mysoginistic in its portrayal of middle american housewives. I thought both were overrated and overhyped. Not worst films, but not nearly as much as was made of both. Unforgiven for my money was the best modern Western because it both embodied the traits of tradtitional westerns but also invited a more accurate analysis of western film tropes. I think Dances with wolves was Kevin Costner in love with himself. That's why he annoys me, but I think he's gotten better in a lot of ways and I like quite a few of his films Tom Cruise I cannot stand and like some of his films in spite of his presence, whereas generally I can say I have liked Kevin Costner's performances (as long as they don't involve him doing an accent, remaking Mad Max on water, or generally being full of himself).
Good post.

Miss I.
02-26-2009, 10:41 AM
Comedy is subjective, I just don't think Farrel is funny.
Steve Martin stunk it up in the awful Pink Panther, yet there's a Pink Panther II.
No accounting for taste. ;D

Oh, I didn't like Jerry Lewis either.

Actually all of it is subjective (just so I can be contrary,so unlike me really). I do agree with most of this. Pink Panther was painful. Jerry Lewis was annoying to me though I liked Dean Martin. Not a big fan of Farrell, but there are a few things I like, some of his Bush imitations were funny. And I liked Old School for whatever reason. I might have to turn in my girl card.

Archer81
02-26-2009, 10:53 AM
Worst movie I ever saw was Dude, where's my car. My one friend thought it was a hillarious flick and would do lines from it...


:Broncos:

Beantown Bronco
02-26-2009, 11:01 AM
Worst movie I ever saw was Dude, where's my car. My one friend thought it was a hillarious flick and would do lines from it...


:Broncos:

Damn. Even I won't quote that atrocity.

Archer81
02-26-2009, 11:03 AM
Damn. Even I won't quote that atrocity.


"dude, whats mine s..."

*sound of a fist hitting a throat, some gurggling...


:Broncos:

Hogan11
02-26-2009, 01:36 PM
This is true, there are many worse, many more overrated actors then Costner. Tom Cruise for one annoys me to no end, though I have found a few of his films pretty decent.

My issue with Costner is his occasional self importance and lack of ability to do an accent. He should just accept his limitations (he can't do accents, that's okay, but don't do them). I started this by implying his westerns were not done well, were overwrought and overacted. I think they were overrated frankly. Dances with Wolves was long and frankly a little too politically kiss butt for me...was it all bad, the worst western of all time, no, but neither did I think it warranted the love fest it got. I felt the same way about American Beauty the first time I saw it, it was okay, but pompous, patronizing and particulary mysoginistic in its portrayal of middle american housewives. I thought both were overrated and overhyped. Not worst films, but not nearly as much as was made of both. Unforgiven for my money was the best modern Western because it both embodied the traits of tradtitional westerns but also invited a more accurate analysis of western film tropes. I think Dances with wolves was Kevin Costner in love with himself. That's why he annoys me, but I think he's gotten better in a lot of ways and I like quite a few of his films Tom Cruise I cannot stand and like some of his films in spite of his presence, whereas generally I can say I have liked Kevin Costner's performances (as long as they don't involve him doing an accent, remaking Mad Max on water, or generally being full of himself).

The only Costner film I ever liked was Fandango

Hogan11
02-26-2009, 01:40 PM
I really liked Charlie Wilson's War, Phillip S Hoffman is probably my fave actor on the scene today.

brother love
02-26-2009, 01:44 PM
Horror:
Best- Suspiria, Nightmare on Elm St., The Exorcist
Worst- My Bloody Valentine

Comedy:
Best- Grandma's Boy, Superbad, Joe Dirt, Tommy Boy
Worst- Naked Gun

Ill get more later.

Joe dirt over the Naked Gun. You can't be serious.

The baseball scene is classic. "Apparently the umpires have Crishone caught in a rundown!"

Miss I.
02-26-2009, 01:49 PM
I really liked Charlie Wilson's War, Phillip S Hoffman is probably my fave actor on the scene today.

I haven't see that, but everyone I know who has really like it. As for Phillip, I agree, he is one of my favorite actors as well. I really liked him in Happiness, State and Main, and The Talented Mr Ripley and he was one of the best parts of Red Dragon (I still prefer Manhunter in many ways).

As for Costner, I really did enjoy Bull Durham. I thought he and Susan Sarandon were very good together.

llayne
02-26-2009, 01:55 PM
Exactly! Did you see it?

The Miracle of St Ann was bad. What I really hate is when movie previews are misleading. It might have been me, but I was expecting something very different. I thought it started back in WW2 but the majority would occur in present time. As for other bad movies that I have recently seen. Body of Lies is up there, Valkyrie, and W. Oh and Taken deserves to be taken back. The public should not be subected to such a simple yet dumb movie.

llayne
02-26-2009, 01:58 PM
worst movies:

alexander
the blair witch project
indiana jones kingdom of the crystal skulls
red sonja
conan the destroyer
batman forever, batman n robin

QFT....I have no idea how you can screw up a good story like Alexander. If anyone has read his history...they know it is an amazing story. I thought Pitt should have done that over Troy.

OABB
02-26-2009, 03:08 PM
QFT....I have no idea how you can screw up a good story like Alexander. If anyone has read his history...they know it is an amazing story. I thought Pitt should have done that over Troy.

It's tough to pull off a story about a great military conquerer with out people getting caught up in a pc tizzy over how war is bad and evil. however, if you show gay sex, it's totally cool and important to the story....lol.

What made Alexander special was his battles, everything else is only cool because he always won. had he lost at issus, no one would care about the gordian knot or any of that stuff.

sadly, military might is not something that people in holywood are willing to make unless, of course, there is gay sex.

broncosteven
02-26-2009, 03:12 PM
Stalingrad or The Downfall IMO

I recently checked out Stalingrad at the library, I thought it would be better than it was. Downfall was EPIC, they nailed it, neither was as good as Blackhawk down but I would consider Downfall more of a Drama than war flick.

Archer81
02-26-2009, 03:13 PM
It's tough to pull off a story about a great military conquerer with out people getting caught up in a pc tizzy over how war is bad and evil. however, if you show gay sex, it's totally cool and important to the story....lol.

What made Alexander special was his battles, everything else is only cool because he always won. had he lost at issus, no one would care about the gordian knot or any of that stuff.

sadly, military might is not something that people in holywood are willing to make unless, of course, there is gay sex.


Alexander was a brilliant tactician with gigantic ambition. He also liked dudes, which shouldnt even filter into it. He was Macedonian, for Christ sake, so of course he was into dudes. He was one of the world's most fearsome conquerors who simply overextended himself.

The movie, however was a "great" director's attempt to portray one of the great commanders of human history. Stone gayed it up and made it a farce.

:Broncos:

broncosteven
02-26-2009, 03:14 PM
Jean Cocteau's Beauty and the Beast and Orpheus were movies that impacted my life.

Great stuff back before CGI.

OABB
02-26-2009, 03:14 PM
also...flame away, but the last Rambo may be one of the most underrated action movies ever.

I really enjoyed it and thought it should have been the true sequel to the original and all those steroided james cameron type sequels should never have been made.

OABB
02-26-2009, 03:14 PM
Alexander was a brilliant tactician with gigantic ambition. He also liked dudes, which shouldnt even filter into it. He was Macedonian, for Christ sake, so of course he was into dudes. He was one of the world's most fearsome conquerors who simply overextended himself.

The movie, however was a "great" director's attempt to portray one of the great commanders of human history. Stone gayed it up and made it a farce.

:Broncos:

qft.

Miss I.
02-28-2009, 09:07 PM
So, I saw Gran Torino tonight. Excellent flick I must say. I hadn't really had any desire to see it, but I really enjoyed it. Clint Eastwood is just awesome.

Anyway, going to say goodnight, goodbye and take care. I understand when I arrive in England I will be required to take up the original football (aka soccer).