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Hogan11
02-12-2009, 02:06 PM
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Anyone see this? Was he serious or was he just sticking it to Letterman by being a dead interview? (I know he quit to do hip hop and all.)

DivineBronco
02-12-2009, 02:08 PM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1356864/

more then likely all of this is attempt to make a borat type movie but on a much grander scale....that being said i don't think mr Phoenix is the most "normal" guy out there

Pontius Pirate
02-12-2009, 02:10 PM
I think it was awesome

Kaylore
02-12-2009, 02:12 PM
Letterman was awesome. Isn't Joaquin trying to destroy his career so his brother can film it? I thought I read that somewhere.

24champ
02-12-2009, 02:16 PM
This reminds me of an Andy Kaufman type thing...trying to fool the audience into thinking this guy has lost it.

Kid A
02-12-2009, 02:18 PM
Whatever it is, it extends beyond the Letterman interview. Read this Q&A:

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/popvox/archive/2009/02/12/joaquin-phoenix-before-the-letterman-fiasco-there-was-this.aspx

edit: here's some audio http://www.newsweek.com/id/40211#?l=1785302026&t=11881436001

baja
02-12-2009, 02:25 PM
The reason he always plays the part of ass-holes is because he can't act.

clint7
02-12-2009, 02:26 PM
Letterman was awesome. Isn't Joaquin trying to destroy his career so his brother can film it? I thought I read that somewhere.

Yes. That's what I had heard. His buddy let it slip about filming a "documentary" about an actor thinking he can just change careers and become a rapper...and it becoming a total disaster. So he's in "character" 24/7 while they are doing this.

jutang
02-12-2009, 02:26 PM
Half the time I thought it was serious and the other half I thought it was a joke. At the end of the clip, Joaquin takes of his glasses and begins talking to Letterman. His body language suggested a friendly manner so I'm guessing this is a joke.

Florida_Bronco
02-12-2009, 02:32 PM
This guy just needs to go away. He was never any good to begin with.

baja
02-12-2009, 02:34 PM
River had all the talent in that family.

SouthStndJunkie
02-12-2009, 02:34 PM
This guy just needs to go away. He was never any good to begin with.

I suppose you probably want him arrested on suspicion of being stoned.

Florida_Bronco
02-12-2009, 02:34 PM
I suppose you probably want him arrested on suspicion of being stoned.

Whatever gets him off the damn screen.

clint7
02-12-2009, 02:35 PM
"Swing away, Merrill."

NUB
02-12-2009, 02:35 PM
Has to be a huge hoax.

Bronx33
02-12-2009, 02:36 PM
drugs dragging another one down it appears.

SouthStndJunkie
02-12-2009, 02:41 PM
This guy just needs to go away. He was never any good to begin with.

What do you think Commodus, should we hire him for the state highway patrol trooper opening?

Florida_Bronco
02-12-2009, 02:42 PM
What do you think Commodus, should we hire him for the state highway patrol?

LOL @ the thought of me on the highway patrol.

MileHighMagic
02-12-2009, 02:44 PM
He was good in Space Camp.

http://www.needcoffee.com/html/dvd/images/spacecamp.jpg

Man-Goblin
02-12-2009, 02:47 PM
He was good in Space Camp.

http://www.needcoffee.com/html/dvd/images/spacecamp.jpg

Is that Lamar Latrell?

Killericon
02-12-2009, 02:48 PM
Suddenly, Joaquin is my hero.

The Joker
02-12-2009, 02:50 PM
That was hilarious.

Always found Joaquin a bit unappealing for some reason, but whatever this is he's up to looks like it has potential.

DB Doom
02-12-2009, 02:53 PM
thats great stuff and is gonna be hilarious...Letterman had to have an idea that he was being put on

Mountain Bronco
02-12-2009, 02:55 PM
He was awesome in Walk the Line. IMO that was one of the funniest Letterman interviews I have seen in a long time. Cracked me up what ever it was.

baja
02-12-2009, 02:58 PM
Letterman saved the day he was funny under duress.

Taco John
02-12-2009, 02:58 PM
It worked. If he just gave an interview, nobody would have even known it happened. Everywhere on the internet you look, Joaquin, Joaquin, Joaquin!

baja
02-12-2009, 03:00 PM
Same with the monk that set himself on fire, it worked

His burning ass was seen around the world, doesn't mean it took any talent.

Taco John
02-12-2009, 03:02 PM
What are you talking about? Since when was this about talent?

Kaylore
02-12-2009, 03:03 PM
He was good in Space Camp.

http://www.needcoffee.com/html/dvd/images/spacecamp.jpg

Holy crap I loved that movie.

Kaylore
02-12-2009, 03:04 PM
Letterman saved the day he was funny under duress.

Having a script to go by helps.

baja
02-12-2009, 03:04 PM
I thought it was stupid where is the humor

What do you think the over under is on when JP is invited back on Letterman?

baja
02-12-2009, 03:06 PM
Having a script to go by helps.

So you think they cooked that up together?

I don't

Kaylore
02-12-2009, 03:06 PM
So you think they cooked that up together?

I don't

LOL

24champ
02-12-2009, 03:07 PM
Holy crap I loved that movie.

Kelly Preston was hot in that movie...

SonOfLe-loLang
02-12-2009, 03:22 PM
He's great as the porno watchin freak in Parenthood!

Hogan11
02-12-2009, 03:30 PM
So you think they cooked that up together?

I don't

Possible...hell John Lydon and Tom Snyder used to do it all the time

epicSocialism4tw
02-12-2009, 04:24 PM
It had to be a bit.

They parted too amicably at the end.

Malcontent
02-12-2009, 04:44 PM
Letterman would never cook up something this stupid, and his ego wouldn't let him look a fool. Only his talent got him out of it ok. Letterman is sharper than most corporate execs..and that aint sayin much I know, but he can handle himself in any freaky situation for sure.

baja
02-12-2009, 04:56 PM
Letterman was annoyed that much was clear. That was not a put on, it was a great improv on Letterman's part.

Did anyone get the "We owe Farrah Fawcett an apology" line by Letterman.

Kaylore
02-12-2009, 04:59 PM
Possible...hell John Lydon and Tom Snyder used to do it all the time

Possible? Are there so many here naive to how these things work? The majority of interviews on late night shows are pre-scripted. In fact every comedian being interviewed just hands the host a list of questions he wants to be asked so he can do his routine in interview form. Virtually every celebrity has at the very least a set of questions they are not to be asked. Most of the time they agree to be on the show only in exchange to pimp something their doing, which of course must be brought up in their "sit and chat".

Kid A
02-12-2009, 05:07 PM
I don't think the interview itself was staged. From what I have read Phoenix has been in this mode for weeks now, going around with a documentary crew, doing this shtick in every interview. I doubt he directly let Letterman in on the joke beforehand, though I think most people can tell what it is. Either way I think Letterman had some genuine annoyance going on there.

Malcontent
02-12-2009, 05:10 PM
Possible...hell John Lydon and Tom Snyder used to do it all the time

Lydon was a freakish interview for anyone...I loved how Snyder worked his way thru it though..

cabronco
02-12-2009, 05:11 PM
Letterman was annoyed that much was clear. That was not a put on, it was a great improv on Letterman's part.

Did anyone get the "We owe Farrah Fawcett an apology" line by Letterman.

Im not exactly sure either, but was thinking at the time maybe he had said something like Farrah was his worst guest ever...until this JP skit . Just a guess.

Hogan11
02-12-2009, 06:18 PM
Well, that vid didn't last long Ha!

Meck77
02-12-2009, 06:34 PM
Im not exactly sure either, but was thinking at the time maybe he had said something like Farrah was his worst guest ever...until this JP skit . Just a guess.

bingo....

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broncosteven
02-12-2009, 06:39 PM
Half the time I thought it was serious and the other half I thought it was a joke. At the end of the clip, Joaquin takes of his glasses and begins talking to Letterman. His body language suggested a friendly manner so I'm guessing this is a joke.

I saw it live and also considered it was a joke, I figured if it was really bad they would not have come back from comercial with him out there.

It looked like an act, he was really out of it one minute then responding to prodding. Letterman stuck it to him and got worried when he put the gum under the desk but they played nice after that. Letterman threw some jabs but backed off.

If I was the producer I would have pulled him after the 1st break. Seemed fishy to me when he talked with Dave after getting up at the close before the 2nd break.

Dukes
02-12-2009, 07:23 PM
He was good in Space Camp.

http://www.needcoffee.com/html/dvd/images/spacecamp.jpg

Holy **** I never realized that was him. Weird.

broncosteven
02-12-2009, 07:25 PM
I am guessing that Pat is going on Letterman tonight to esplain his recent firings.

If he shows up in a beard and sunglasses we are in trouble.

Rausch 2.0
02-13-2009, 02:30 AM
I am guessing that Pat is going on Letterman tonight to esplain his recent firings.

If he shows up in a beard and sunglasses we are in trouble.

Feh.

We all deserve some time like that.

HorseHead
02-13-2009, 07:24 AM
As mentioned in a previous post, all this "shiz" is beinmg filmed, Casey Affleck (Ben's brother, preety good actor) has been following Phoenix around for a month or so...as Phoenix tries to become a "rapper"...

Letterman's writers obvioulsy set Dave up with some home runs, inlcuding the "Una-Bomber" line and the Farrah reference...good tv..

chawknz
02-13-2009, 07:57 AM
Cant forget this classic WTF Letterman appearance : <object width="425" height="344">
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broncosteven
02-13-2009, 12:56 PM
Cant forget this classic WTF Letterman appearance : <object width="425" height="344">
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This guy is still a working actor. I see his name in B flicks every now and then.

El Guapo
02-13-2009, 01:09 PM
You consider Back To the Future a B flick? Meet George McFly.

Kaylore
02-13-2009, 01:32 PM
You consider Back To the Future a B flick? Meet George McFly.

That was after Back to the Future.

Popps
02-13-2009, 01:58 PM
Here's what I have on the situation....

I haven't worked with him, ever... so I can't say how he is otherwise. I do, however work very closely with people who are about as close to the situation as you can get, and at least my best source (in this case) says it's all an act.

Now, that said... he still can't ABSOLUTELY say for certain that Pheonix isn't on something and isn't having problems. But, the whole rap-star thing is reportedly a set-up along with Casey Affleck. (Who's filming all of this.)
So, it's supposedly a punked-style thing, etc.

That's been highly speculated on, but at least one person that I would trust with my life says it is indeed all part of the documentary. (Mocumentary?)

That said... again, my question still remains, is he doing a big joke here... but ALSO has a serious drug problem? Some of it looked put on, but some of it really didn't. He seemed fidgety and agitated at a few moments where even a great actor wouldn't have likely thought to act that way.

Was his fall off of the stage in Vegas an act, too? Could have been. Or, is he trying to punk everyone with this whole thing... but congruently has issues himself. That's sort of my belief, but my contact on the issue isn't inclined to think the same thing... though couldn't totally rule it out.

broncosteven
02-13-2009, 02:01 PM
That was after Back to the Future.

Khan's is the Superior, learn from the master Maverick_7

TheReverend
02-13-2009, 02:33 PM
He was good in Space Camp.

http://www.needcoffee.com/html/dvd/images/spacecamp.jpg

OMG LEA THOMPSON MEMORIES REVIVING CHILDHOOD BONERZ

broncosteven
02-13-2009, 02:36 PM
OMG LEA THOMPSON MEMORIES REVIVING CHILDHOOD BONERZ

Lea Thompson and Crispen Glover both appear in this thread!


LOL

Popps
02-13-2009, 03:13 PM
Having a script to go by helps.

Kaylore,

Very unlikely it was scripted.... for a laundry-list of reasons, but I'd put the chances somewhere around 5%.

Pheonix was reportedly acting, but highly unlikely Letterman was involved.

baja
02-13-2009, 07:08 PM
Possible? Are there so many here naive to how these things work? The majority of interviews on late night shows are pre-scripted. In fact every comedian being interviewed just hands the host a list of questions he wants to be asked so he can do his routine in interview form. Virtually every celebrity has at the very least a set of questions they are not to be asked. Most of the time they agree to be on the show only in exchange to pimp something their doing, which of course must be brought up in their "sit and chat".

Say it ain't so ...... Who'd a thunk it, TV scripted???

ChampBailey24
02-13-2009, 07:24 PM
was that cripin glover thing a joke as well?

broncosteven
02-13-2009, 07:37 PM
was that cripin glover thing a joke as well?

Not that I recall. I think that dude broke under the success of the movie, I think he was into some Hippy art movement or something.

Some people want to be in the industry but don't want the fame, Pearl Jam comes to mind.

Kid A
02-13-2009, 08:23 PM
Or, is he trying to punk everyone with this whole thing... but congruently has issues himself.

This is my guess. Yeah, it's all a put on for the "documentary," but you wouldn't go through with this unless you didn't mind burning some bridges. At the very least I would guess he is burnt out on the Hollywood/interview circuit and is using this stunt to live out a fantasy. Maybe he felt he was starting lose it a little, so he decided to go all out and have fun doing it.

BroncoBuff
02-13-2009, 09:48 PM
River had all the talent in that family.
Disagree there ... Joaquin is a marvelously talented actor. His performance as Commodus in Gladiator is one of the best supporting performances I've ever seen. He is an enormous talent.

And this is FAR from his only major weird public display ... in fact, offhand I recall an interview he did for I think Buffalo Soldiers, and he was utterly incoherent, as bad or worse than this one. He might be on drugs, but my bet is that he's just a very weird guy who deeply resents having to do publicity for his films. Problem is that since Jack Nicholson (and Brando before him) are about the only stars who can get that clause deleted from SAG contracts, he's gotta show up. It's part of the deal.


Crispin Glover I met once at "The Good Guys" electronics store at the Beverly Connection on La Cienega ... about 1997. He was looking for a video switcher and we spoke for a few minutes, he's a very normal guy, very normal. That Letterman clip is very old, and he was obviously trying to channel Andy Kaufman, or maybe Brother Theodore or another of the crazy guests Letterman made his regulars back then.

Glover is also a very good actor. Not just the excellent Charlie's Angels performances, but going way back to River's Edge in the late 80s. He's damn good.

BroncoBuff
02-13-2009, 09:55 PM
But, the whole rap-star thing is reportedly a set-up along with Casey Affleck. (Who's filming all of this.)
So, it's supposedly a punked-style thing, etc.

That's been highly speculated on, but at least one person that I would trust with my life says it is indeed all part of the documentary. (Mocumentary?)I didn't know about that thing, could be. I didn't see the full clip because CBS pulled it ... just saw a small clip on Yahoo.

Even if it is for a mockumentary ... like I said, he has acted just as strange and stranger for many many years.

baja
02-13-2009, 10:18 PM
Disagree there ... Joaquin is a marvelously talented actor. His performance as Commodus in Gladiator is one of the best supporting performances I've ever seen. He is an enormous talent.

And this is FAR from his only major weird public display ... in fact, offhand I recall an interview he did for I think Buffalo Soldiers, and he was utterly incoherent, as bad or worse than this one. He might be on drugs, but my bet is that he's just a very weird guy who deeply resents having to do publicity for his films. Problem is that since Jack Nicholson (and Brando before him) are about the only stars who can get that clause deleted from SAG contracts, he's gotta show up. It's part of the deal.


Crispin Glover I met once at "The Good Guys" electronics store at the Beverly Connection on La Cienega ... about 1997. He was looking for a video switcher and we spoke for a few minutes, he's a very normal guy, very normal. That Letterman clip is very old, and he was obviously trying to channel Andy Kaufman, or maybe Brother Theodore or another of the crazy guests Letterman made his regulars back then.

Glover is also a very good actor. Not just the excellent Charlie's Angels performances, but going way back to River's Edge in the late 80s. He's damn good.

You are correct he was great in Gladiator but he plays a similar type character often

Popps
02-13-2009, 10:23 PM
I didn't know about that thing, could be. I didn't see the full clip because CBS pulled it ... just saw a small clip on Yahoo.

Even if it is for a mockumentary ... like I said, he has acted just as strange and stranger for many many years.

Read the story of his parents. Short version is... they were drifters/hitch-hikers who joined "Children of God" cult... traveled South America before moving back to the U.S. and changing their name to Pheonix to symbolize the "new beginning." To each his own, but not exactly lifestyles that tend to produce adjusted kids.

As for his behavior otherwise, I haven't even worked with him indirectly. Even my source of info has only had moderate contact with him... but he DOES have direct and regular business someone who is close to the whole thing, and says without a doubt that it's all part of a big act.

Again, I'm just not so sure the act hasn't taken some unexpected turns.

BroncoBuff
02-13-2009, 11:07 PM
Read the story of his parents. Short version is... they were drifters/hitch-hikers who joined "Children of God" cult... traveled South America before moving back to the U.S. and changing their name to Pheonix to symbolize the "new beginning." To each his own, but not exactly lifestyles that tend to produce adjusted kids.

As for his behavior otherwise, I haven't even worked with him indirectly. Even my source of info has only had moderate contact with him... but he DOES have direct and regular business someone who is close to the whole thing, and says without a doubt that it's all part of a big act.

Again, I'm just not so sure the act hasn't taken some unexpected turns.
Interesting ... sounds a bit like Wynona Ryder's upbringing.

He did date Liv Tyler for awhile in the 90s, so at least he's not totally insane ... :~ohyah!:

Popps
02-14-2009, 01:16 AM
Interesting ... sounds a bit like Wynona Ryder's upbringing.

He did date Liv Tyler for awhile in the 90s, so at least he's not totally insane ... :~ohyah!:

Amen, brother.

Rausch 2.0
02-14-2009, 02:43 AM
He did date Liv Tyler for awhile in the 90s, so at least he's not totally insane ... :~ohyah!:

Perhaps it was the fact she grew as thick as the Hulk while taking the flick that pushed him over the edge....

Bronx33
02-14-2009, 12:15 PM
What the hell kinda name is Joaquin anyways.

Miss I.
02-14-2009, 12:16 PM
What the hell kinda name is Joaquin anyways.

Probably have to ask his hippy parents, his siblings were like River, Summer, and Rain. I think he even went through a phase where he changed his name to Leaf so he could fit in with his siblings

Popps
02-14-2009, 12:21 PM
What the hell kinda name is Joaquin anyways.

Pheonix is a name they took on, apparently.

Wikipedia claims his original last name was "Bottom."

Phoenix was born Joaquin Rafael Bottom

Bronx33
02-14-2009, 12:23 PM
Probably have to ask his hippy parents, his siblings were like River, Summer, and Rain. I think he even went through a phase where he changed his name to Leaf so he could fit in with his siblings

I once knew a chick names unity rainbow doober and yes her parents when hippies.

Miss I.
02-14-2009, 12:29 PM
Pheonix is a name they took on, apparently.

Wikipedia claims his original last name was "Bottom."

Phoenix was born Joaquin Rafael Bottom

Okay I would change it to Phoenix too.

As for his talent, the guy has some chops, he's a little quirky yes, but I enjoy a lot of his films. (and he did watch his brother die and made the 9-1-1 call, that's likely to make a lot of people a little off). His brother was a good actor (My Own Private Idaho, Stand By Me, Sneakers, Running on Empty). I liked River, but his brother is talented as well. I liked him in Walk the Line, Gladiator, Ladder 49, Inventing the Abbotts, Buffalo Soldiers, Parenthood and as I was a kid at the time even SpaceCamp silly as it was.

epicSocialism4tw
02-14-2009, 12:36 PM
Cant forget this classic WTF Letterman appearance : <object width="425" height="344">
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This Letterman appearance was also somewhat of a bit (relative to Crispin Glover), and I think that Crispin is still trying to pull it off.

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Popps
02-14-2009, 01:40 PM
Okay I would change it to Phoenix too.

As for his talent, the guy has some chops, he's a little quirky yes, but I enjoy a lot of his films. (and he did watch his brother die and made the 9-1-1 call, that's likely to make a lot of people a little off). His brother was a good actor (My Own Private Idaho, Stand By Me, Sneakers, Running on Empty). I liked River, but his brother is talented as well. I liked him in Walk the Line, Gladiator, Ladder 49, Inventing the Abbotts, Buffalo Soldiers, Parenthood and as I was a kid at the time even SpaceCamp silly as it was.



He's a talented guy, no question.

One issue I have with the idea that it's all a put-on is his obviously druggy demeanor. If it's all a big joke, would the guy really purport to be a drug-addict, given what happened to his brother and if so, just how funny is that?

Popps
02-14-2009, 01:46 PM
Is he THIS good of an actor? I'm just not so sure. If you've ever known any tweakers, this looks very familiar...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gletAb3TS7w&feature=related

Bronx33
02-14-2009, 01:47 PM
Is he THIS good of an actor? I'm just not so sure. If you've ever known any tweakers, this looks very familiar...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gletAb3TS7w&feature=related


Exactly my thoughts on his deameanor.

epicSocialism4tw
02-14-2009, 01:54 PM
Is he THIS good of an actor? I'm just not so sure. If you've ever known any tweakers, this looks very familiar...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gletAb3TS7w&feature=related


He has been committed to the bit for awhile now, so I can see how he would be able to pull of a nonchalant interview like that. He speaks using ideas that he has thought about beforehand to make his point in a way that might suggest that they are organized beforehand. At one point he says that he's "like...greener pastures" or something when he's describing wanting to change his "artism" and he says in passing that he hopes that his new art can have an emotional impact on her as well. Its that last statement that lends to me the idea that he had maybe predetermined the conversation somewhat in the same way that Christopher Guest, Micheal McKean, and Harry Shearer have gone about the mockumentary business since Spinal Tap.

However, that doesnt exclude drug use from an explanation of his demeanor.

Bronx33
02-14-2009, 02:11 PM
Stay with acting Joaquin

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And compare this interview with the first one.

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Bronx33
02-14-2009, 02:12 PM
This is just funny...

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Popps
02-14-2009, 07:46 PM
Its that last statement that lends to me the idea that he had maybe predetermined the conversation somewhat in the same way that Christopher Guest, Micheal McKean, and Harry Shearer have gone about the mockumentary business since Spinal Tap.

However, that doesnt exclude drug use from an explanation of his demeanor.

Guest is a genius.

But, I think your second statement is where I still am on the matter.

If you watch the interviews, it's not the highlight moments so much as the subtle things in between. Anyone can fake slow speech, being drunk, drugged, etc... particularly a good actor.

But, if you watch him fidgeting, and you've ever seen or known any abusers, the behavior is dead-on. He almost looks agitated at times, which just wouldn't seem to go with the "bit." I don't mean the times where he's asked about his rap-thing and gets upset, I just mean random fidgeting... avoidance of eye-contact, etc.

I also thought his "you're doing fine" line to Letterman was just too good to be faked. By too good, I mean... too random, too free-form thought to be that of a sober person pretending.

Meck77
02-22-2009, 06:36 PM
Well he just did the same crap at the Oscars. Boring.

bowtown
02-22-2009, 06:39 PM
Well he just did the same crap at the Oscars. Boring.

Ummm, that was Ben Stiller mocking him. Good stuff.

Meck77
02-22-2009, 06:40 PM
Ummm, that was Ben Stiller mocking him. Good stuff.

oh whoops...Well the whole act was just as boring.

Dagmar
02-22-2009, 06:54 PM
Well he just did the same crap at the Oscars. Boring.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

theAPAOps5
02-22-2009, 07:20 PM
Well he just did the same crap at the Oscars. Boring.

Seriously? Did you not hear them say and now Natalie Portman and Ben Stiller? And if you missed that did you miss Natalie say Ben what are you doing followed by Ben saying I am quitting Comedy? Of course when Natalie Portman is on the screen I tune out everything else too! :twokisses :)

BlaK-Argentina
02-22-2009, 07:34 PM
Seriously? Did you not hear them say and now Natalie Portman and Ben Stiller? And if you missed that did you miss Natalie say Ben what are you doing followed by Ben saying I am quitting Comedy? Of course when Natalie Portman is on the screen I tune out everything else too! :twokisses :)

Natalie Portman is full of win.

Meck77
02-22-2009, 08:10 PM
Foneco you all!