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Bronx33
02-10-2009, 03:38 PM
You can do what new Tennessee football coach Lane Kiffin did a few days ago, and it would fine by me. You can steal a recruit from Florida, rub it in at a booster meeting, then mock Florida's Urban Meyer for getting beaten for the player despite cheating.

You can do all those things and be in the clear -- as long as you satisfy one condition:


Be right.

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That's all. Just get your facts straight. Truth is a defense here. Call out another coach for cheating, even after stealing one of his recruits, and you're serving the greater good. Cheaters suck. Call them out. Every time.

Just be right about it.

Kiffin got it wrong when he gloated about stealing Florida commitment Nu'Keese Richardson, noting Meyer had called Richardson's cell phone while the kid was visiting Tennessee. "Just so you know," Kiffin told the crowd, "you can't call a recruit (when he's) on another campus. I love the fact that Urban had to cheat and still didn't get him."

The crowd roared, because that's what large groups of stupid people do when given the chance. They roar. And they were wrong, because Kiffin was wrong. Meyer didn't "cheat." The rule Kiffin cited? It doesn't exist. The SEC reprimanded Kiffin for being a buffoon, and Kiffin issued a lame apology that began: "If I offended ..."

If you offended?

Bad accusation. Bad apology. Big shock? Nope. Kiffin's a dope. Tennessee hasn't gotten the memo yet, but it will. The SEC doesn't lie. Coach a few years in that league, and you are what you are. If you're a great coach, you'll win games and maybe even a conference or national championship. If you're an average coach, you'll hang around a few years before getting the boot. And if you're an idiot, well, you're screwed.

Kiffin's screwed. This episode proves it. Because you don't tattletale on another coach for cheating, and do it in a setting as public as a gathering of almost 1,000 boosters, unless you're right. And unless you know you're right. A great coach definitely would know if he's right. An average coach probably would know. An idiot coach? He doesn't even know how he got his job in the first place. That's Kiffin. He literally doesn't understand why he is who he is.

And that's why Lane Kiffin was the wrong guy to try what he tried. When you're born on third base and fool yourself into thinking you've hit a triple, you lack the status to call out the biggest, baddest coach on your block. That's why this whole thing backfired on Kiffin. Because he was the wrong guy.


Lane Kiffin's SEC career is off to a bumpy start at Tennessee. (AP)
Who's the right guy? The right guy, frankly, would have been someone like Urban Meyer. Someone who won a lot of games at Bowling Green, then put up a perfect season at Utah, and then after all that scratching and clawing got the job at Florida ... where he won two national championships in his first four years. Only a man like Meyer, a self-made man -- a winner -- has the bearing to pull off what Kiffin was trying to pull off.

Kiffin is so anti-Urban, he should answer to "Rural."

Rural Kiffin has no status, no standing, no résumé. He was born sucking on Daddy's silver spoon, the son of longtime NFL assistant Monte Kiffin using his DNA to get a job with Pete Carroll at Southern California. Rural Kiffin then tapped into the charisma of Carroll and the tradition of USC and the glamour of Los Angeles, and used all of that to become known, by knuckleheads, as a recruiting whiz. Sure he is. You, too, could be a recruiting whiz for Pete Carroll at USC. So could I.

Rural Kiffin is no whiz. He has accomplished nothing. Do you understand me? Nothing. The NFL's most deranged owner hired him as coach, but that says more about Al Davis than Kiffin. But going 5-15 with Oakland says plenty about Kiffin.

Look, the guy's going to flop at Tennessee. You know it. I know it. Hell, I knew it before he was hired. Here's what I wrote in October, five weeks before he got the Tennessee job, about the Lane Kiffin Candidacy Phenomenon. I knew his fake résumé, like a rapper's gold teeth, would attract some weak soul's attention. Knew he'd be hired. Figured he'd fall on his face.

And he's already falling.

This is the first in what will be a series of public embarrassments for Kiffin. He's in over his head, and he's not smart enough to know it. A smarter man would understand where he came from and how he got where he was and lay low, out of the public eye. He wouldn't draw too much attention, because when you live in a glass house like Kiffin and start throwing stones, you end up with rocks in your kitchen.

A sharper coach, one with a better feel for himself and his business, wouldn't go out of his way to tick off the one guy in the SEC who has the players, the style and the cruelty to get even on the field. Meyer is all of those things, including cruel, and I'm not ripping him for it. Want to win at the highest level in college football? Then you better have some killer instinct. Meyer has it. The entire Georgia sideline celebrated a touchdown against Florida in 2007 by running onto the field, and Meyer retaliated one year later by winning 49-10 and calling two late timeouts to rub it in.

Urban Meyer can be cruel, but in a league as brutal as the SEC, nice guys finish last. So do dumb guys, and Rural Kiffin's first major move as the head coach at Tennessee was stupid.

http://www.cbssports.com/columns/story/11352943

GoHAM
02-10-2009, 03:46 PM
Rural Kiffin LOL

bpc
02-10-2009, 04:16 PM
Kiffin is an idiot. He's an arrogant SOB who basically was showboating Deion style during that recruiting press conference and then spiked the ball on the 1 yd line. Not only did he not know what the hell he was talking about, he was caught with recruiting violations as well.

Smiling Assassin27
02-10-2009, 04:17 PM
Kiffin is an idiot. He's an arrogant SOB who basically was showboating Deion style during that recruiting press conference and then spiked the ball on the 1 yd line. Not only did he not know what the hell he was talking about, he was caught with recruiting violations as well.


qft. this guy is an embarrassment.

Northman
02-10-2009, 04:19 PM
lmao. oh my.

Tombstone RJ
02-10-2009, 04:25 PM
eh, who cares? Obviously, the person who wrote the above article has a bone to pick with Kiffin. This article sounds a little too personal...

crush17
02-10-2009, 04:25 PM
Chomp Chomp Chomp

Bronx33
02-10-2009, 04:27 PM
eh, who cares? Obviously, the person who wrote the above article has a bone to pick with Kiffin. This article sounds a little too personal...


If ya ask me the artical pretty much wrote itself...;D

oubronco
02-10-2009, 04:27 PM
Dumbazz

s0phr0syne
02-10-2009, 04:38 PM
If ya ask me the artical pretty much wrote itself...;D


article will have "written itself" if Kiffin loses during the season. Until then, this whole article is way too premature and like someone else, sounds like the writer has a personal bone to pick.

I'm interested to see what Kiffin can do. His record will ultimately decide his fate, not all of this retarded college pride/ego ****.

McDman
02-10-2009, 04:55 PM
I go to UT and the story was totally blown out of proportion. He said ti at a booster breakfast to fire people up. He probably shouldn't have said it, but it really wasn't a big deal. He and his staff have done an excellent job recruiting so in a couple of years we could be great again. People will be jumping all over him when we don't do well this season, but we just don't have to many great players, especially on offense. Our QBs blow.

TheReverend
02-10-2009, 06:28 PM
Winning will determine his fate...

Malcontent
02-10-2009, 06:37 PM
I'm not sure he makes it to this season after what transpired...Tenn may just boot his azz.

Dean
02-10-2009, 07:21 PM
qft. this guy is an embarrassment.

What is qft? To me it means quantum field theory but that doesn't fit the context here:-/ .

Lycan
02-10-2009, 07:25 PM
What is qft? To me it means quantum field theory but that doesn't fit the context here:-/ .

I believe that means "Quoted for truth".

BroncoBuff
02-10-2009, 07:49 PM
Poor Vols ... had they waited just a few more weeks they'd have Jon Gruden now :oyvey:

watermock
02-11-2009, 03:15 AM
Kiffin's out of his league.

I hope Hoodie Jr. isn't too, altho it would be pretty hard to get outcoached in the AFC West.

BroncoMan4ever
02-11-2009, 04:07 AM
Kiffin's out of his league.

I hope Hoodie Jr. isn't too, altho it would be pretty hard to get outcoached in the AFC West.

i don't think McD is out of his league. he came out here and put together a really awesome staff to work with. in my eyes that proved he was smart enough to know he doesn't know everything. that is where the rest of the former Belicheat disciples didn't know. none of them put together overly impressive staffs. plus teams they went to weren't run by intelligent owners, and there was no talent for them to work with. McD is getting an offense that is a RB and some depth away from being the best in the league, and a terrible defense, that only needs to get into the middle of the pack in defensive rankings for this team to be among the elite. he has an easier road to travel than the other former Pats assistants.

cmhargrove
02-11-2009, 08:03 AM
i don't think McD is out of his league. he came out here and put together a really awesome staff to work with. in my eyes that proved he was smart enough to know he doesn't know everything. that is where the rest of the former Belicheat disciples didn't know. none of them put together overly impressive staffs. plus teams they went to weren't run by intelligent owners, and there was no talent for them to work with. McD is getting an offense that is a RB and some depth away from being the best in the league, and a terrible defense, that only needs to get into the middle of the pack in defensive rankings for this team to be among the elite. he has an easier road to travel than the other former Pats assistants.

This is a good point, and there is a reason why this article is important.

Everyone is looking at all the "young, inexperienced" coaches and waiting to see who fails. The Kiffin thing in Oakland turned into a sideshow. He decided to try to use the "public" and "media" to try to fight his battles and be the cool guy vs. Crazy Al. He may have been somewhat correct, but he failed the team miserably. He looks like a stuck up kid looking for public approval and I hate his attitude.

Maybe his daddy's defense will save him, who knows?

McD just seems like he is mature on a whole different level, and his confidence shows. I know McD put himself in a position to succeed by coming to Denver (not Oakland), but he still seems very different than Kiffin in his approach.

Kiffin has a sweet deal in Tennessee with one of the highest paid collegiate coaching staffs in the country. It will be sad to screw that all up, because I think over the years Tennessee has made some pretty good NFL players.

But, Kiffin continues to show he still has a teenage mentality, rather than focusing on his job - winning games.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
02-11-2009, 08:13 AM
I don't think the Kiffin thing is that big a deal, honestly. He's ruffling some feathers, sure, but I kind of like that. Don't be a wuss; call out who you want to beat. The big dog is who you want to knock off. So tell him you're coming, and then go make it happen.

BFD.

cmhargrove
02-11-2009, 08:20 AM
I don't think the Kiffin thing is that big a deal, honestly. He's ruffling some feathers, sure, but I kind of like that. Don't be a wuss; call out who you want to beat. The big dog is who you want to knock off. So tell him you're coming, and then go make it happen.

BFD.

I think, however, that Kiffin puts the cart before the horse.

1) Win some games
2) then, you have the right to talk smack

rugbythug
02-11-2009, 08:39 AM
I think, however, that Kiffin puts the cart before the horse.

1) Win some games
2) then, you have the right to talk smack

He was talking to his own boosters. Lets get real here. That is the one place you have to talk smack.

Imagine: Obama going to the DNC and not talking smack on everyone else. That is how it works.

Tombstone RJ
02-11-2009, 09:01 AM
I believe that means "Quoted for truth".

It is short for "quite ****ing true"

TheElusiveKyleOrton
02-11-2009, 11:15 AM
I think, however, that Kiffin puts the cart before the horse.

1) Win some games
2) then, you have the right to talk smack

Why wait? The guy's trying to drum up excitement for his squad after a four win season. I like the guy's style with this. The reporter needs to remove the rather large stick up his ass and just deal.

Kid A
02-11-2009, 02:41 PM
Yeah, about that whole "hire a fired Raiders coach to lead a major college program" idea...:slash:

watermock
02-11-2009, 10:12 PM
Winning will determine his fate...

Winning in the SEC is beyond brutal. Spurrier is fighting for his job at SC.

Ole Nutt is fightin in Ole Miss and destroyed LSU.

Petrino is trying to rebuild in Hogville.

Meyer and Saban fight for the crown.

These are NFL caliber coaches that prefer the highlife of college football.

Kiffin is hanging on daddys balls, Saban isn't.

DBroncos4life
02-11-2009, 10:58 PM
What did Dawkins say about NU when he got to CU? I see nothing wrong with a new coach trying to keep fire going between two schools.