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spdirty
02-04-2009, 06:35 PM
Gonna be on 10 times the next week on HBO. Very interesting. Alexandra Pelosi did it, and did a damn good job, IMO.

Take your political or religious beliefs or whatever beliefs you may have about the guy, realize he is just human. His deception and hypocrisy I feel earned the pound of flesh that was taken from him. However, I think about 10 pounds were taken from him. By the end of the movie I almost wanted to offer him a job. Pretty heartbreaking story, although I think he definitely mislead a whole bunch of people. Even without the gay sex and meth use. But, pretty crazy the way that church operates, preach forgiveness but don't practice it. And he called em out at one point, saying that these megachurches and a lot of churches for that matter are businesses, and he was bad for business. So he had to go.

Heres a review of it. http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/articles/2009/01/29/a_look_at_pastor_after_the_fall/

TheDave
02-04-2009, 06:47 PM
JMO, but his hypocrisy is/was too much for me to ever feel any empathy towards the man. He preached against and condemned others for the very life he was living and made good money doing it... Live by the sword die by the sword.

spdirty
02-04-2009, 06:50 PM
JMO, but his hypocrisy is/was too much for me to ever feel any empathy towards the man. He preached against and condemned others for the very life he was living and made good money doing it... Live by the sword die by the sword.

Well, thats what I thought too. Dude never was a millionaire though, and now he tries to sell insurance to make a living. Pretty much totally broke right now.

TheDave
02-04-2009, 06:53 PM
Well, thats what I thought too. Dude never was a millionaire though, and now he tries to sell insurance to make a living. Pretty much totally broke right now.

If the type of religion he preached is true... money is the least of his problems.

If i had HBO i would watch it though... but i had to get Showtime for Dexter. :thumbs:

spdirty
02-04-2009, 07:04 PM
If the type of religion he preached is true... money is the least of his problems.

Yeah when I thought about Haggart, I thought about those bullshlttin televangelists who guilt lil old ladies who cant afford to heat their home to send em money so they can refuel their private jets and buy another Bentley. But, according to this documentary, he had to move like 4 times in a year and had to sell health insurance door to door because he couldnt get a half decent job.

TheDave
02-04-2009, 07:14 PM
Yeah when I thought about Haggart, I thought about those bullshlttin televangelists who guilt lil old ladies who cant afford to heat their home to send em money so they can refuel their private jets and buy another Bentley. But, according to this documentary, he had to move like 4 times in a year and had to sell health insurance door to door because he couldnt get a half decent job.


I meant from a spiritual standpoint... If what he preached is the way it all works, then he has some serious explaining to do in the afterlife. Not so sure how forgiving God is when you are using his message to make a quick buck while ****ing manwhores and smoking meth on the side... like i said money may be the least of his problems.

spdirty
02-04-2009, 07:59 PM
I meant from a spiritual standpoint... If what he preached is the way it all works, then he has some serious explaining to do in the afterlife. Not so sure how forgiving God is when you are using his message to make a quick buck while ****ing manwhores and smoking meth on the side... like i said money may be the least of his problems.

agree...but I think that megachurch misleads a lot of people anyway. As do probably all of em, set up with a well spoken "pastor" to make it a "fun" experience. The documentary did these lil flashbacks to when he was preaching, weird. Very very weird. Nothing like what Im use to. But then my church has approximately 20 members in it with an average age of 65. But thats what I like and am comfortable with.

But they do that to get more people in there to get more $$$ in there all the while doing "Gods work." Id call him a false prophet myself, but Im really not one to talk. Guess for Haggard though, just like to see the guy make a life for himself and his family. And thats what kind of strikes me though, through all of this, his wife stayed with him.