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MagicHef
02-03-2009, 05:09 PM
Phil Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma
Vance Walker, DT, Georgia Tech
B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College
Evander Hood, DT, Missouri
Rashad Jennings, RB, Liberty

at the senior bowl

http://www.newerascouting.com/nfl-team-interest/

Paladin
02-03-2009, 05:37 PM
So Rey Rey is on the 'scope, eh?

BroncoMan4ever
02-03-2009, 06:01 PM
So Rey Rey is on the 'scope, eh?

if these were the Shanahan days i would agree, but now i tend to think these are guys under heavy consideration.

MagicHef
02-03-2009, 08:13 PM
if these were the Shanahan days i would agree, but now i tend to think these are guys under heavy consideration.

That's what I was thinking.

All 3 DTs are penetrating types, and 2 of them would fit well at 3-4 DE.

DBroncos4life
02-03-2009, 08:34 PM
WTF do we need a OT for?

gyldenlove
02-03-2009, 08:49 PM
I think they are projecting Loadholt as a G.

cmhargrove
02-03-2009, 08:56 PM
Rashad Jennings might be a fun pick in the later rounds.

I like that three of the five players highlighted here are DT's. Hopefully we get a couple in the draft.

cmhargrove
02-03-2009, 08:58 PM
Phil Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma
Vance Walker, DT, Georgia Tech
B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College
Evander Hood, DT, Missouri
Rashad Jennings, RB, Liberty

at the senior bowl

http://www.newerascouting.com/nfl-team-interest/

I checked out the entire list - looks like almost every team is interested in Delmas. It will be interesting to see of he gets picked in the first round. Maybe we could end up with Chung in the second?

BroncoMan4ever
02-03-2009, 09:11 PM
Rashad Jennings might be a fun pick in the later rounds.

I like that three of the five players highlighted here are DT's. Hopefully we get a couple in the draft.

if we don't take Greene in the 2nd, i want Jennings in the 3rd. either of these guys would bring back our dominant running attack and complete our offense.

both these dudes are beasts.

Paladin
02-03-2009, 10:05 PM
WTF do we need a OT for?

Ya know what? There are guys who present some good potential and ya gotta check them pout. Would Loadholt be an upgrade over Pears or Ploumbus? Or a G candidate? Don't know.

But I do like that three are Dlinemen, and big ones at that......

bap454
02-03-2009, 10:25 PM
I checked out the entire list - looks like almost every team is interested in Delmas. It will be interesting to see of he gets picked in the first round. Maybe we could end up with Chung in the second?

Delmas was very impressive in the practices and game. I would have no quarrels with Delmas in the Second round if hes there.

socalorado
02-04-2009, 07:30 AM
Delmas was very impressive in the practices and game. I would have no quarrels with Delmas in the Second round if hes there.

Lots of "analysts" have Delmas projected as the top safety now. Moore has just disappeared.
Chung is solid.

montrose
02-04-2009, 08:07 AM
Me like BJ Raji. He could be the NT to help our 3-4 go or if we stay 4-3, he and Thomas would be a really nice DT combination.

MagicHef
02-04-2009, 08:20 AM
Me like BJ Raji. He could be the NT to help our 3-4 go or if we stay 4-3, he and Thomas would be a really nice DT combination.

Me too. I just hope he's still there at 12.

Broncos_OTM
02-04-2009, 08:36 AM
Write it down. Bj Raji will go before we get the chance in the first...ill say he goes to San Fransico at the latest. And Ron Brace will be a packer in the second. Fili Moala i am gonna go out here and say he will be picked in the second before we get the chance as well.

MagicHef
02-04-2009, 08:36 AM
I think they are projecting Loadholt as a G.

337 lbs, and "Struggles with speed off the edge." Sounds like a G to me. "Intelligence may be an issue" isn't exactly what you want to hear, though.

http://i44.tinypic.com/2qbg5ch.jpg

http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ot/Phil-Loadholt.php

Broncos_OTM
02-04-2009, 08:51 AM
maybe they are considering moving him to NT? highly unlikely but with his strength i could see it. although is rather tall

Scratch that i just read his negatives

MagicHef
02-04-2009, 08:54 AM
maybe they are considering moving him to NT? highly unlikely but with his strength i could see it. although is rather tall

Scratch that i just read his negatives

If you're looking for "switch him to NT!" candidates, look no further than:

http://i43.tinypic.com/11v3cxj.jpg

Broncos_OTM
02-04-2009, 09:05 AM
If you're looking for "switch him to NT!" candidates, look no further than:

http://i43.tinypic.com/11v3cxj.jpg

is that the same scouting report i just read...

MagicHef
02-04-2009, 09:17 AM
is that the same scouting report i just read...

Yeah, they're pretty similar, only one is 337, and the other is 386.

Paladin
02-04-2009, 09:27 AM
386? He would just have to stand there and the RB would have to go a mile to get around him!! Guard? He'll play wherever he want to......

gyldenlove
02-04-2009, 09:38 AM
386? He would just have to stand there and the RB would have to go a mile to get around him!! Guard? He'll play wherever he want to......

He is a perfect fit for Pittsburgh, the bigger their offensive linemen are the longer it is to run around them so that will help Roethlisberger live to turn to 30.

Paladin
02-04-2009, 09:42 AM
You;d have to start a c;ass in Remedial Shoe Tying, I think. Read the weaknesses. And no spiders in the locker room......

MagicHef
02-04-2009, 10:12 AM
You;d have to start a c;ass in Remedial Shoe Tying, I think. Read the weaknesses. And no spiders in the locker room......

I think you're combining the two. Loadholt is the one with the "intelligence issues." Johnson is the one with the spider bite. Although, that may just mean that he's Spiderman.

OBF1
02-04-2009, 12:35 PM
Johnson would break off 2k in any system :)

snowspot66
02-04-2009, 01:14 PM
**** yeah. Give the man the ball at the goal line.

Could call him the Industrial Freezer.

MagicHef
02-04-2009, 01:50 PM
Goal line:

TE - Johnson
FB - Lichtensteiger
RB - Hillis

Yikes.

Atlas
02-04-2009, 02:08 PM
B.J. Raji is the best DT in the draft and odds are he'll be there at #12. This is who I would love for Denver to get. Denver needs to purge the D-lineman and bring in the right guys.

socalorado
02-04-2009, 02:10 PM
Goal line:
TE - Johnson
FB - Lichtensteiger
RB - Hillis
Yikes.
I am hoping beyond all hope that this guy doesnt get drafted or lasts till the 7th, and DEN can draft him.
He was a FB.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o-PSiU9I9I&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jennUJf5TY&feature=related

gyldenlove
02-04-2009, 02:11 PM
B.J. Raji is the best DT in the draft and odds are he'll be there at #12. This is who I would love for Denver to get. Denver needs to purge the D-lineman and bring in the right guys.

I wouldn't play those odds, there are a lot of teams who need defensive linemen ahead of us.

MagicHef
02-04-2009, 02:14 PM
I am hoping beyond all hope that this guy doesnt get drafted or lasts till the 7th, and DEN can draft him.
He was a FB.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o-PSiU9I9I&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jennUJf5TY&feature=related

I can't watch videos at work, what's his name?

socalorado
02-04-2009, 02:15 PM
I wouldn't play those odds, there are a lot of teams who need defensive linemen ahead of us.

GB really need a 3-4 NT. BAD.
SF who knows? Maybe Sanchez, but hes a one year wonder.

Atlas
02-04-2009, 02:17 PM
Me like BJ Raji. He could be the NT to help our 3-4 go or if we stay 4-3, he and Thomas would be a really nice DT combination.

Maybe during Raji's rookie year. I think after Raji gets experience Thomas could move to DE. I think he could be really good there.

MagicHef
02-04-2009, 02:18 PM
GB really need a 3-4 NT. BAD.
SF who knows? Maybe Sanchez, but hes a one year wonder.

As badly as we do? I just looked at their roster, they have Johnny Jolly, Justin Harrell, Ryan Pickett, and Colin Cole. All DTs, all listed at 320 lbs or more.

socalorado
02-04-2009, 02:18 PM
I can't watch videos at work, what's his name?
http://pbrown16.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/340x-3.jpg

MagicHef
02-04-2009, 02:19 PM
http://pbrown16.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/340x-3.jpg

I would like.

Atlas
02-04-2009, 02:19 PM
I wouldn't play those odds, there are a lot of teams who need defensive linemen ahead of us.

You can't really predict anything, but I think there is a good chance Raji is there for the Broncos. Never know though.

ND Bronco Fan
02-04-2009, 02:31 PM
I watched some games on Raji and I was impressed with his abilities but one thing I saw was he missed a lot of tackles that he should make. Go to Youtube and watch.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9UQ2YGE9SLM

From 1 min to a little over 3 min is a bit of what I am talking about. That being said I still think he is a beast and would be a good NT.

socalorado
02-04-2009, 02:40 PM
As badly as we do? I just looked at their roster, they have Johnny Jolly, Justin Harrell, Ryan Pickett, and Colin Cole. All DTs, all listed at 320 lbs or more.

Capers is going to a 3-4 with GB. I am not sure if those DTs can play the 3-4, but i have seen alot of talk about GB taking Raji if he were there. Just talk though, but thats the early pick, or a 3-4 OLB/DE guy. Who knows, man.

MagicHef
02-04-2009, 02:41 PM
I'm torn as to whether I would prefer top talent at DT and slightly less talent at OLB, or top talent at OLB and slightly less talent at DT. I think I'm leaning towards the latter, just because drafting DL seems to be much more of a crapshoot than LBs. I think (if available at 12) getting Everette Brown and Ron Brace or someone else similar would be better than Raji and Larry English or Connor Barwin. I'm sure I'll change my mind 20 times before the draft, though.

Paladin
02-04-2009, 03:47 PM
How about Curry in 1, Sintim in 2 and Taylor in 3? That would sort of toughen up the D a bit, combined with Larsen and DJ......

Or: Curry , Delmas, and NT would be okay.

socalorado
02-04-2009, 03:51 PM
How about Curry in 1, Sintim in 2 and Taylor in 3? That would sort of toughen up the D a bit, combined with Larsen and DJ......

You joking?
CURRY= PIPE DREAM.

I would LOVE for DEN to get him! Other than DREK, i dont think theres a bigger fan of drafting Curry than me. But lets face facts, if he by some miracle makes it past CLE, then JAX, i just cannot see him making it to #12. MAybe DEN trades up into JAX spot. Jeez.....talk about a pipe dream.

Paladin
02-04-2009, 04:24 PM
Well, h3ll. Everyone else around here is dreaming, why can't I? Actually, I have seen a couple of mocks that had Curry there at 12. See, for example, NFP in the other thread......

bap454
02-04-2009, 04:27 PM
If you're looking for "switch him to NT!" candidates, look no further than:

http://i43.tinypic.com/11v3cxj.jpg

I would draft this freek in the 3rd round just for intimidating purposes:thumbs: . I would say ... all you have to do is go out/ warm up and scare the living bejesus out of everyone. Then you go to the sideline and stand there all game staring across the field at the opposing team.

MagicHef
02-04-2009, 04:36 PM
I would draft this freek in the 3rd round just for intimidating purposes:thumbs: . I would say ... all you have to do is go out/ warm up and scare the living bejesus out of everyone. Then you go to the sideline and stand there all game staring across the field at the opposing team.

He'll probably still be there in the 4th. I'd put him in at NT for a few plays a game, and just tell him to try his hardest to end up laying on top of someone from the opposing team at the end of every play. Center, Running Back, Full Back, Guard, Quarterback, it doesn't matter. Just fall on someone.

snowspot66
02-04-2009, 04:37 PM
I would put him in just to trip and fall on people. Take out half the defense.

snowspot66
02-04-2009, 04:38 PM
Great minds think alike it seems.

MagicHef
02-04-2009, 04:45 PM
Can you imagine if Croyle managed to get into another game, only to get sat on by this guy? I don't even want to think about it.

Inkana7
02-04-2009, 05:45 PM
He'll probably still be there in the 4th. I'd put him in at NT for a few plays a game, and just tell him to try his hardest to end up laying on top of someone from the opposing team at the end of every play. Center, Running Back, Full Back, Guard, Quarterback, it doesn't matter. Just fall on someone.

I believe Ted Washington made a career out of this tactic.

MagicHef
02-04-2009, 07:39 PM
http://pbrown16.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/340x-3.jpg

Apparently two of Kubiak's sons played at CSU with Johnson, so I would not be surprised at all if Houston picked him up.

Bob
02-06-2009, 12:48 PM
Phil Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma
Vance Walker, DT, Georgia Tech
B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College
Evander Hood, DT, Missouri
Rashad Jennings, RB, Liberty

at the senior bowl

http://www.newerascouting.com/nfl-team-interest/

Lets hope it means we might actually go after a DT...

Bob
02-06-2009, 01:00 PM
If you're looking for "switch him to NT!" candidates, look no further than:

http://i43.tinypic.com/11v3cxj.jpg

I didnt know that Andrea had a younger brother, who happened to be black?

Every year, I get sucked into how cool woudl it be to get some giant on Defence, but I dont think he would fit into our type of O line that is known for its ability to move in space -- if we get someone bigger who can move -- fine, but somehow with guys like Nalen, we have be able to deal with the Gilberts...

If we could get him as a project in the 6th for NT, then I think it woudl be a fun experiment.... dont imagine he woudl be around, Al Davis will draft him higher then he should.

Bob
02-06-2009, 01:02 PM
Write it down. Bj Raji will go before we get the chance in the first...ill say he goes to San Fransico at the latest. And Ron Brace will be a packer in the second. Fili Moala i am gonna go out here and say he will be picked in the second before we get the chance as well.

If that's true, I wonder what woudl be teh best way to address the run defence...

snowspot66
02-06-2009, 01:35 PM
Apparently two of Kubiak's sons played at CSU with Johnson, so I would not be surprised at all if Houston picked him up.

Houston has it's guy. They'll go somewhere else. They've got too many holes to fill to take another RB.

snowspot66
02-06-2009, 01:37 PM
If that's true, I wonder what woudl be teh best way to address the run defence...

Draft or sign a young fatass and focus on the linebackers and safety. We won't get to elite with this setup but we can get to average with just decent linebacker and safety play.

Fix what you can. If you can't fix it adequately then try again next time. But don't waste resources on something that's not worth it just because you know it needs fixing. You'll just sink a ton of picks or money into it, nothing will get done, and the team will lose chances at playmakers at other positions.

Paladin
02-06-2009, 02:13 PM
If that's true, I wonder what woudl be teh best way to address the run defence...

12 gauge would probably work......

UberBroncoMan
02-06-2009, 05:16 PM
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=70689&draftyear=2009&genpos=OT

Imagine us turning Phil into our NT... HMMMMM!!! O_o!

lostknight
02-07-2009, 10:30 AM
337 lbs, and "Struggles with speed off the edge." Sounds like a G to me. "Intelligence may be an issue" isn't exactly what you want to hear, though.

http://i44.tinypic.com/2qbg5ch.jpg

http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ot/Phil-Loadholt.php

Wasn't that the knock on Clady?

snowspot66
02-07-2009, 10:49 AM
It became one when he had a bad test score. I don't know if it was a concern before that though.

Bob
02-08-2009, 04:15 PM
Wasn't that the knock on Clady?

Again, these guys are fun to talk about, but, very rarely to you find someone like Clady, with great size, but even better movement. Now, if you are looking at starting WWF II, then bring on the fatt, fatt, fatties and carnival freaks.

I think with our new head coach we will get the same approach on the O-line, it has worked so well for us, I'd be pissed if he tries to "improve" upon it by altering what has been the envy of the NFL.

As for the D, after watching the Raven, Steelers game, it was clear we have a few miles to go before we are playing at that D level -- how can we and keep who we have in place on teh offence? Just not enough money to go around. I dont see McDaniels being able to resist creating another O power-house, and adding just as many toys to our O, even though we would be better off getting a decent RB, and just keeping who we have in place on the offensive side of the ball (in my opinion.) Take darn near everything else, and do what we did a few years ago, them we needed a decent corner -- draft three DT's (or get them through free-agency) and we woudl go from near last is stopping the run, to 15-20 (and that, combined with our same offence (with heathy running backs, including Hillis) will get us a couple games into the play offs...

Homer out...

gyldenlove
02-08-2009, 04:19 PM
Wasn't that the knock on Clady?

Intelligence wasn't a concern with Clady, he took well to coaching and didn't have problems understanding a play book. His low wonderlic score at the combine raised some red flags, but a lot of people attributed his score partly to the injury he suffered earlier that day and based on what we have seen from him and heard from him it seems he was more preoccupied with his injury than the test.

Speed off the edge was never an issue with Clady obviously, with his feet and athleticism. Power was an issue, but with his size not much of an issue.