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Elway777
02-03-2009, 02:49 AM
Barwin played his first 3 years as a Te before moving to De . What do you think about him as a 3-4 outside linebacker. Should have some coverage skills because of the time spent as Te.

Paladin
02-03-2009, 07:36 AM
Tell us about him. I have never heard of him....

'Course I have never heard of 95% of the College players. But I figure I keep reading here, I will learn more than I really need to know.......

MagicHef
02-03-2009, 07:46 AM
He's raw, but he could end up being a very good OLB, I think.

http://i40.tinypic.com/2e3r6f6.jpg

Paladin
02-03-2009, 07:56 AM
Thanks. Interesting. Maybe one thing McD and the Brain Trust can do is get the right guys in the right positions.........

Drek
02-03-2009, 09:09 AM
I'm a fan. I think his diverse background would see him play very well at SOLB in the 3-4. His pass rushing talents are raw but impressive and he'd be just about the last guy a QB would want to float a ball near.

illbroncsfn
02-03-2009, 09:22 AM
If he can be Mike Vrabel part dos- yes!

snowspot66
02-03-2009, 11:09 AM
I'd take him for a shot at LB.

SoDak Bronco
02-03-2009, 11:32 AM
i don't want any projects in the 2nd/3rd..i'd take a shot in the 4-5th range...

Paladin
02-03-2009, 12:24 PM
As I'm understanding, no player taken through the fourth should be a "project" in this year's draft......

BroncoMan4ever
02-03-2009, 12:26 PM
I'm a fan. I think his diverse background would see him play very well at SOLB in the 3-4. His pass rushing talents are raw but impressive and he'd be just about the last guy a QB would want to float a ball near.

he is raw, but he tends to get pushed around, which was the problem we had with some of our LB's this season.

Drek
02-03-2009, 01:50 PM
he is raw, but he tends to get pushed around, which was the problem we had with some of our LB's this season.

He gets pushed around as a 4-3 DE where OTs get their hands on him almost immediately after the snap. Even then he still had 11 sacks.

As a 3-4 OLB his size will play up better and he'll be more often than not fighting with guards, FBs, and RBs.

Is he a ready made fit? No, but if he was there in the 3rd round he'd be a hell of a nice product to groom for a long term payoff.

BroncoMan4ever
02-03-2009, 05:00 PM
He gets pushed around as a 4-3 DE where OTs get their hands on him almost immediately after the snap. Even then he still had 11 sacks.

As a 3-4 OLB his size will play up better and he'll be more often than not fighting with guards, FBs, and RBs.

Is he a ready made fit? No, but if he was there in the 3rd round he'd be a hell of a nice product to groom for a long term payoff.

you don't groom a 3rd round pick. in my mind 1st-3rd round picks should come in and be playing steadily or starting their rookie year. project picks are for 5th round and later.

gyldenlove
02-03-2009, 06:59 PM
He is way too weak right now, he needs to add a lot of muscle before he will be ready. I like his profile and he has some good experience, but he needs to be stronger and he needs to work his leverage.

goldengopher1976
02-03-2009, 10:12 PM
If he can be Mike Vrabel part dos- yes!

Exactly the person I thought of...with the receiving skills to boot.

elsid13
02-04-2009, 02:53 AM
I like the guy. He has the ability to stand up and play in space, and go get the passer -12 sack this season. Great football player that supposedly is gym rat and will do wantever is necessary to help the team.

Mediator12
02-04-2009, 05:55 AM
As I'm understanding, no player taken through the fourth should be a "project" in this year's draft......

No, that is not how it works. That is too simple. It is a value based equation and some times a better value player is there based on position and you have to roll the dice. The thing is the draft is fluid, and even though one team needs a guy to be ready to play, the next might be better suited to get the developmental player especially if their roster has less holes to fill.

This is a very deep draft at certain positions, but hell QB is a "Project" position in the first selection of the first round ;D

Mediator12
02-04-2009, 05:57 AM
Barwin is a good player, who is smart enough to make the jump at either position. The thing is, he would be rated higher as a DE/OLB on most people's board's in this draft, so that is where he likely projects. It just matters where his actual value is once the draft begins.

Elway777
02-06-2009, 03:56 AM
I think the Broncos would have to use a 3 rounder on him in order to get Him.I could see a draft like 1. Rey Rey 2. Donald Brown 3. Conner Barwin or Terrance taylor.

Broncos_OTM
02-06-2009, 06:53 AM
The thing though it says he is a excellant ST. so if all he did this year was special teams. right the f on