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Deberg_1990
01-21-2009, 08:44 PM
Thats the rumour. Popular opinion says there will be an announcement within 48 hours.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=200825

Bob's your Information Minister
01-21-2009, 08:46 PM
I tried to tell you Donkeys, but you just wouldn't listen.

broncofan2438
01-21-2009, 08:47 PM
Will never happen

DBroncos4life
01-21-2009, 08:54 PM
I tried to tell you Donkeys, but you just wouldn't listen.

you told us for years that he sucked and couldn't draft and wouldn't win without Elway. So is Elway coming to KC too?

Bob's your Information Minister
01-21-2009, 08:57 PM
you told us for years that he sucked and couldn't draft and wouldn't win without Elway.

He can't draft. That much is obvious.

But Scott Pioli + Shanahan is a dream team.

DBroncos4life
01-21-2009, 08:58 PM
He can't draft. That much is obvious.

But Scott Pioli + Shanahan is a dream team.

lol whatever

BroncoInferno
01-21-2009, 08:59 PM
Won't happen. Shanny has almost nothing to work with on offense.

enjolras
01-21-2009, 08:59 PM
There is no way Shannahan is going to go work for Pioli. This is unbelievably retarded.

Bob's your Information Minister
01-21-2009, 09:02 PM
Won't happen. Shanny has almost nothing to work with on offense.

Are you brain dead?

Dwayne Bowe, Tony Gonzalez, Larry Johnson, Jamaal Charles and Branden Albert is not "nothing."

Shanahan adds Matt Stafford and things start to look really nice.

BroncoInferno
01-21-2009, 09:04 PM
Are you brain dead?

Dwayne Bowe, Tony Gonzalez, Larry Johnson, Jamaal Charles and Branden Albert is not "nothing."

Shanahan adds Matt Stafford and things start to look really nice.

Gee, an 80 year old TE, a RB worn out by previous administrations, and two other guys who have done little to nothing as pros. Yeah, like I said, he has almost nothing to work with on offense.

BigPlayShay
01-21-2009, 09:04 PM
Are you brain dead?

Dwayne Bowe, Tony Gonzalez, Larry Johnson, Jamaal Charles and Branden Albert is not "nothing."

Shanahan adds Matt Stafford and things start to look really nice.

It isn't not nothing.

DBBBSBS
01-21-2009, 09:04 PM
Are you brain dead?

Dwayne Bowe, Tony Gonzalez, Larry Johnson, Jamaal Charles and Branden Albert is not "nothing."

Shanahan adds Matt Stafford and things start to look really nice.

Take it... we have the young shanny now.. the old one is close to rotten. he deserves the cheaps

Bob's your Information Minister
01-21-2009, 09:05 PM
Gee, an 80 year old TE, a RB worn out by previous administrations, and two other guys who have done little to nothing as pros. Yeah, like I said, he has almost nothing to work with on offense.

Basically you have your head shoved way up your ass.

TheDave
01-21-2009, 09:05 PM
Since they haven't interviewed a minority coach (you know, that pesky rooney rule thing)... I'm guessing this is just more hopeful BS from chef fans.

SouthStndJunkie
01-21-2009, 09:06 PM
Are you brain dead?

Dwayne Bowe, Tony Gonzalez, Larry Johnson, Jamaal Charles and Branden Albert is not "nothing."

Shanahan adds Matt Stafford and things start to look really nice.

Matt Stafford is going to be drafted 1st overall by the Detroit Lions.

DBBBSBS
01-21-2009, 09:06 PM
Basically you have your head shoved way up your ass.

and i can see your head close to shanny ass... keep licking until you guys atleast get to 8 wins.. which will be a decade from now. good luck.. see u in 2011.

BroncoInferno
01-21-2009, 09:06 PM
Basically you have your head shoved way up your ass.

Basically, you have no counter argument. Gonzalez is old and not likely to have much left. Johnson has been beaten to a pulp by over use. Albert and Charles have done little. No, tis you who has your head up you ass.

tsiguy96
01-21-2009, 09:08 PM
i hope so, would make for awesome drama twice a year.

Bob's your Information Minister
01-21-2009, 09:10 PM
Basically, you have no counter argument. Gonzalez is old and not likely to have much left. Johnson has been beaten to a pulp by over use. Albert and Charles have done little. No, tis you who has your head up you ass.

Remove your head from your ass. Seriously.

BroncoInferno
01-21-2009, 09:13 PM
Remove your head from your ass. Seriously.

Place your ass in reality, seriously. I'm right. You have no counter-argument. I win.

enjolras
01-21-2009, 09:13 PM
I call Traveshamockery.

Killericon
01-21-2009, 09:16 PM
I call Traveshamockery.

Seconded.

~Crash~
01-21-2009, 09:18 PM
Basically you have your head shoved way up your ass.

Not all of us . I think you are a turd all the same but I will root for Shanahan no matter were he goes even in KCif that is were ends up . why would I because Mike Shanahan is all class I have never seen cheap play come from his teams . so I will be a ok rooting for a KC lead team under Mike Shanahan as long as the broncos are not playing them and it does not affect the broncos .

kcxiv
01-21-2009, 09:20 PM
Basically, you have no counter argument. Gonzalez is old and not likely to have much left. Johnson has been beaten to a pulp by over use. Albert and Charles have done little. No, tis you who has your head up you ass.

Cept for the fact he probalby had the best season of his career on a 2-14 team. Yeah, he doesnt have much left. He's only 32. He's a work out and nutrition freak. Hell, he has if he wants 2-3 years of great ball left in him. He's better then any TE in the league at his "old" age.

Bob's your Information Minister
01-21-2009, 09:21 PM
Place your ass in reality, seriously. I'm right. You have no counter-argument. I win.

I'm not arguing with you. You have your head up your ass.

When you remove your cranium from your sphincter, only then will I engage you in debate.

BroncoInferno
01-21-2009, 09:30 PM
I'm not arguing with you. You have your head up your ass.

When you remove your cranium from your sphincter, only then will I engage you in debate.

I WIN!!!

Bob's your Information Minister
01-21-2009, 09:38 PM
Can you guys imagine Shanahan coaching the Chiefs on Bowlen's dime?

OH MAN!

TheDave
01-21-2009, 09:39 PM
Can you guys imagine Shanahan coaching the Chiefs on Bowlen's dime?

OH MAN!

How does that happen?

You think Shanahan is going tocoach for free?

~Crash~
01-21-2009, 09:40 PM
Can you guys imagine Shanahan coaching the Chiefs on Bowlen's dime?

OH MAN!

that would probaly cost you guys draft picks you are full of crap they will have to pay the going price of head Coachs.

wolf754life
01-21-2009, 09:41 PM
i welcome the possibility, the rat will have it out for us, but big deal, its the nfl, you play to win the games.

if shanasplat is the coach pat will open up the checkbook even more, nothing like competition from best friends.

fun times indeed

kcxiv
01-21-2009, 09:44 PM
i welcome the possibility, the rat will have it out for us, but big deal, its the nfl, you play to win the games.

if shanasplat is the coach pat will open up the checkbook even more, nothing like competition from best friends.

fun times indeed

Not if you are Herman Edwards! You play not to lose! lol

Taco John
01-21-2009, 09:46 PM
This is believable to me. Shanahan just built a huge home in Denver, and KC is only an hour flight away. He'd be able to get a lot of work done on the plane going back and forth between work and home.

Taco John
01-21-2009, 09:47 PM
Plus this is the Chief's modus operendi. They want to be the Broncos so bad.

Bob's your Information Minister
01-21-2009, 09:49 PM
How does that happen?

You think Shanahan is going tocoach for free?

Bowlen pays Shanny regardless.

If the Chiefs pay Shanny 2 mil a year, Bowlen pays him 5 mil a year.

Maybe there are some rules about how much the Chiefs have to pay him, but it would be hilarious if they gave him a contract worth peanuts and Bowlen had to pay the huge balance for three years. LMAO

TheDave
01-21-2009, 09:50 PM
Bowlen pays Shanny regardless.

If the Chiefs pay Shanny 2 mil a year, Bowlen pays him 5 mil a year.

Maybe there are some rules about how much the Chiefs have to pay him, but it would be hilarious if they gave him a contract worth peanuts and Bowlen had to pay the huge balance for three years. LMAO

More wishful thinking...

...and again... Rooney Rule.

Bob's your Information Minister
01-21-2009, 09:51 PM
More wishful thinking...

We'll see. Shanny loves to hold a grudge.

Taco John
01-21-2009, 09:57 PM
More wishful thinking...

...and again... Rooney Rule.

Does the Rooney Rule apply to a team that is firing a black coach?

I think that they'd be able to successfully challenge it. There is no black coach available right now that is as qualified as Shanahan is.

Atlas
01-21-2009, 09:58 PM
Shanny is a very good coach. In just one year he could triple the Chiefs total wins!!! How many games did they win last year?? 2??? Yeah six wins sounds about right.

Bob's your Information Minister
01-21-2009, 09:59 PM
The Rooney rule does not apply in this case.

Taco John
01-21-2009, 10:03 PM
The Rooney rule does not apply in this case.


Quit being a fool. You don't know that. It's nothing more than a supposition.

cutthemdown
01-21-2009, 10:04 PM
Can you guys imagine Shanahan coaching the Chiefs on Bowlen's dime?

OH MAN!

If he takes a job he gives tat money up. Unless it's like a few million less then Broncos make up difference.

I doubt however Shanny would say pay me hardly anything and stick it to Bowlen. If anything he would get what he thinks he is worth.

I hope Shanny doesn't go to KC though i can't lie.

To try and poo poo that would be no big deal is nuts it would be huge for Chiefs. To wait a long time before firing coach though would be strange. It makes it impossible for Edwards to have a shot anywhere else the longer you wait.

Who knows maybe that's how KC operates.

TheDave
01-21-2009, 10:05 PM
Does the Rooney Rule apply to a team that is firing a black coach?

I think that they'd be able to successfully challenge it. There is no black coach available right now that is as qualified as Shanahan is.



Detroit tried the same thing when they hired Mariucci... it cost them 200,000K (If i remember correctly). This year Cleveland did interview a minority candidate after firing Romeo. From what i heard they were dead set on hiring Mangini all along.

Bob's your Information Minister
01-21-2009, 10:08 PM
Quit being a fool. You don't know that. It's nothing more than a supposition.

Uh, no. I know it for a fact.

The Chiefs can't pass Herm off as their minority interview.

azbroncfan
01-21-2009, 10:13 PM
Can you guys imagine Shanahan coaching the Chiefs on Bowlen's dime?

OH MAN!

Do you honestly think it effects any of us where Shanny gets his money? You go from a Shanny basher to lover in 2 seconds as soon as the rumor came out. You have proved over and over how much you lack any real football sense but this really proves it.

Bob's your Information Minister
01-21-2009, 10:33 PM
I think I've been very clear where I stand on Shanny, az, but if you want to ignore those posts go ahead.

strafen
01-21-2009, 10:39 PM
Todd Haley will be the chiefs new head coach. That will be announced after the SB. Haley is the current offensive coordinator for the Arizona Cardinals

Anyway, that's the latest rumors

Bob's your Information Minister
01-21-2009, 10:43 PM
That was pure speculation.

Wes Mantooth
01-21-2009, 10:45 PM
Bowlen pays Shanny regardless.

If the Chiefs pay Shanny 2 mil a year, Bowlen pays him 5 mil a year.

Maybe there are some rules about how much the Chiefs have to pay him, but it would be hilarious if they gave him a contract worth peanuts and Bowlen had to pay the huge balance for three years. LMAO

Like you watching a porno, you are imagining your team that you can never have. Sorry Bob.

brncs_fan
01-21-2009, 10:45 PM
That was pure speculation.

So is Shanny. What's your point?

Bob's your Information Minister
01-21-2009, 10:50 PM
So is Shanny. What's your point?

Shanny is not speculation.

BroncoBuff
01-21-2009, 10:51 PM
Thats the rumour. Popular opinion says there will be an announcement within 48 hours.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=200825

You're linking to Chefs-freaking-Planet?! Puh-leeze.

I dunno who that source "Jack Harry" is (sounds like a fake name), but all the mensa-member posters there call him an unreliable drunk.


Look, it's Todd Haley to the chefs, and they're only waiting cause they can't announce it until the Super Bowl is over. You missed all the fireworks, Bob - start with Post #11: http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=76423

Hallside
01-21-2009, 10:51 PM
Uh oh:
http://www.nbcactionnews.com/sports/story/Mike-Shanahan-Could-be-Next-Chiefs-Head-Coach/EjWyJUYPT0q-lAAApuqgXw.cspx
Still hedge their bet though

TDmvp
01-21-2009, 10:58 PM
Sigh ...

tsiguy96
01-21-2009, 10:58 PM
The Rooney rule does not apply in this case.

PFT says differently, idiot.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/01/21/interviewing-edwards-wont-comply-with-rooney-rule/

the chiefs must interview one minority candidate. must being the key word.

Bob's your Information Minister
01-21-2009, 10:59 PM
You misunderstood me. I was correcting Taco.

DBBBSBS
01-21-2009, 11:05 PM
You misunderstood me. I was correcting Taco.

You dont know anything to correct others you fool.

And shanny coming to cheaps for 2 mill... you must be day dreaming. Shanny wil cost u atleast 5 mill.. we will give the other 2 mill and he will lose the 2 games against broncos for sure... LOL

and then wow.. u will be left with 1 win...

Bob.. now takes u head out of that ass

brncs_fan
01-21-2009, 11:09 PM
Shanny is not speculation.

Still looking for a credible source on this. I think you are playing make believe here.

Bob's your Information Minister
01-21-2009, 11:13 PM
Still looking for a credible source on this. I think you are playing make believe here.

Credible source is a judgment call. But now we have Warpaint Illustrated reporting it (go ahead and get your snipes in, you know you want to), and we have Kansas City radio reporting it. Plus, it was all over Denver radio last week, but that was more of a rumor I believe. Either way it's looking more and more likely by the day.

Anyway, the Haley thing was PURE speculation. No source was used at all. The Shanny thing is completely different.

24champ
01-21-2009, 11:15 PM
Uh oh:
http://www.nbcactionnews.com/sports/story/Mike-Shanahan-Could-be-Next-Chiefs-Head-Coach/EjWyJUYPT0q-lAAApuqgXw.cspx
Still hedge their bet though

Hilarious! Are you serious?


While we can't confirm it, we're hearing that it sounds like Mike Shanahan could be the replacement for Herm Edwards. We should find out by Friday.



I can play that game too...

While I can't confirm it. I'm hearing the Broncos could sign Haynesworth, Peppers, Suggs, and Nnamdi Asomugha. We should find out next month. Jesus H Christ....

BroncoBuff
01-21-2009, 11:17 PM
I'm hearing the Broncos could sign Haynesworth, Peppers, Suggs, and Nnamdi Asomugha. We should find out next month. Jesus H Christ....

Wait ... we're signing Jesus H. Christ?

I've gotta get the word out ....

TDmvp
01-21-2009, 11:18 PM
Wait ... we're signing Jesus H. Christ?

I've gotta get the word out ....

LOLOL i was about to post that ....

DARN you BUFF and your brain !!!!!

brncs_fan
01-21-2009, 11:19 PM
Credible source is a judgment call. But now we have Warpaint Illustrated reporting it (go ahead and get your snipes in, you know you want to), and we have Kansas City radio reporting it. Plus, it was all over Denver radio last week, but that was more of a rumor I believe. Either way it's looking more and more likely by the day.

Anyway, the Haley thing was PURE speculation. No source was used at all. The Shanny thing is completely different.

So totally different that we have confirmation of a signing right? It is being reported on ESPN and the NFL network and the presser is tomorrow right?

It is all smoke and mirror speculation with a bunch of bloggers and half-wit journalists trying to be the one to "break" the story by throwing out names and hoping something sticks.

There is no confirmation and until there is it is ALL speculation.

TDmvp
01-21-2009, 11:20 PM
but if we do get Christ in free agency it will give us two JC's ....

And I say we put Christ at Safety !!! ...

24champ
01-21-2009, 11:22 PM
Wait ... we're signing Jesus H. Christ?

I've gotta get the word out ....

We could sign Jesus H. Christ...I can't confirm it but that's what it sounds like... we should know next month.:spit:

Bob's your Information Minister
01-21-2009, 11:25 PM
So totally different that we have confirmation of a signing right? It is being reported on ESPN and the NFL network and the presser is tomorrow right?

It is all smoke and mirror speculation with a bunch of bloggers and half-wit journalists trying to be the one to "break" the story by throwing out names and hoping something sticks.

There is no confirmation and until there is it is ALL speculation.

There is a distinct difference between Haley's name being thrown out by Cris Collinsworth and what has been going on with Shanahan.

strafen
01-21-2009, 11:25 PM
You're linking to Chefs-freaking-Planet?! Puh-leeze.

I dunno who that source "Jack Harry" is (sounds like a fake name), but all the mensa-member posters there call him an unreliable drunk.


Look, it's Todd Haley to the chefs, and they're only waiting cause they can't announce it until the Super Bowl is over. You missed all the fireworks, Bob - start with Post #11: http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=76423
I agree...

BroncoBuff
01-21-2009, 11:26 PM
LOLOL i was about to post that ....

DARN you BUFF and your brain !!!!!

:pimp:

BroncoBuff
01-21-2009, 11:30 PM
There is a distinct difference between Haley's name being thrown out by Cris Collinsworth and what has been going on with Shanahan.

Then give us a link to anybody as good as Collinsworth who's talking Shanahan.

There's ZERO on Shanahan in Rotoworld ... but they're reporting the Haley thing: http://www.rotoworld.com/content/clubhouse_news.aspx?sport=NFL&line=138342&majteam=KC


Maybe ApaOps can get us some Shanahan flight plans from Centennial to KC ... ROFL! ... That's it ... Bob is still playing Traveshamocracy!

24champ
01-21-2009, 11:31 PM
There is a distinct difference between Haley's name being thrown out by Cris Collinsworth and what has been going on with Shanahan.

Yeah the difference is Collinsworth is credible...you don't have any credible sources. A drunk moron on Cheap planet and some flimsy TV station in bum**** egypt throwing **** up on the wall.

Rocky Mountain Stampede
01-21-2009, 11:34 PM
Yeah the difference is Collinsworth is credible...you don't have any credible sources. A drunk moron on Cheap planet and some flimsy TV station in bum**** egypt throwing **** up on the wall.

Isn't Mortensen also reporting the same story?

Bob's your Information Minister
01-21-2009, 11:40 PM
Yeah the difference is Collinsworth is credible...you don't have any credible sources. A drunk moron on Cheap planet and some flimsy TV station in bum**** egypt throwing **** up on the wall.

Collinsworth is not credible whatsoever. He was just throwing out his opinion.

DBBBSBS
01-21-2009, 11:43 PM
Collinsworth is not credible whatsoever. He was just throwing out his opinion.

Are you better than chris collinsworth ? If not STFU.. and get to bed you moron

Florida_Bronco
01-21-2009, 11:43 PM
Then give us a link to anybody as good as Collinsworth who's talking Shanahan.

There's ZERO on Shanahan in Rotoworld ... but they're reporting the Haley thing: http://www.rotoworld.com/content/clubhouse_news.aspx?sport=NFL&line=138342&majteam=KC


Maybe ApaOps can get us some Shanahan flight plans from Centennial to KC ... ROFL! ... That's it ... Bob is still playing Traveshamocracy!

Exactly, Buff.

I mean look at who is reporting this story. A drunk, unreliable reporter (as described by CrapPlanet) and Bobo, a kid who I've exposed as a pseudo reporter who lies about having inside sources to the Chiefs.

That's exactly zero reliable sources.

By all accounts, they still haven't interviewed someone to comply with the Rooney rule, and you still have to wonder why it's taken so long for this issue to come up if they've been targeting Shanahan. I think it's much more likely that they are waiting for Haley to be done with the year so they can hire him.

While this hiring isn't impossible, it's nothing more than unfounded rumors until we get some form of reliable confirmation.

brncs_fan
01-21-2009, 11:45 PM
Collinsworth is not credible whatsoever. He was just throwing out his opinion.

I am sure that Collinsworth will be upset to hear that he is no more credible than Jack Harry.

Seriously, this isn't one of those deals where if you wish for it hard enough it will happen. You are just trying to get everyone upset and we all see right through your plan.

DBBBSBS
01-21-2009, 11:47 PM
Bob... Move your man boobs out of the way and stop acting like a dumb blonde. You have shown how good you are with football in this thread. If you have any shame, dont come back to this thread or this site

24champ
01-21-2009, 11:52 PM
Collinsworth is not credible whatsoever. He was just throwing out his opinion.

Actually Collinsworth is more credible because he cited Pioli for wanting to work with someone he knows...like Haley. Collinsworth also noted where Haley and Pioli worked together with the Jets etc. Illustrating they have a working relationship.

Now for this dumbass named Jack Harry...anything with "could, should, might, we are hearing, can't confirm" in a report is just **** being thrown against the wall.

Bob's your Information Minister
01-21-2009, 11:52 PM
I am sure that Collinsworth will be upset to hear that he is no more credible than Jack Harry.


You fail to understand the difference.

Collinsworth wasn't reporting anything. He was just talking out of his ass.

Harry had a source. There was no opinion involved.

24champ
01-21-2009, 11:53 PM
Exactly, Buff.

I mean look at who is reporting this story. A drunk, unreliable reporter (as described by CrapPlanet) and Bobo, a kid who I've exposed as a pseudo reporter who lies about having inside sources to the Chiefs.

That's exactly zero reliable sources.

By all accounts, they still haven't interviewed someone to comply with the Rooney rule, and you still have to wonder why it's taken so long for this issue to come up if they've been targeting Shanahan. I think it's much more likely that they are waiting for Haley to be done with the year so they can hire him.

While this hiring isn't impossible, it's nothing more than unfounded rumors until we get some form of reliable confirmation.

Yep. Agree 100 percent.

Bob's your Information Minister
01-21-2009, 11:56 PM
I'll sign off the Mane for a month if Shanahan isn't the next head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs.

24champ
01-21-2009, 11:57 PM
Like your word means anything around here dumb****.

Florida_Bronco
01-21-2009, 11:59 PM
Like your word means anything around here dumb****.

No one here will take him up on that bet unless a mod/admin agrees to enforce it.

24champ
01-22-2009, 12:04 AM
No one here will take him up on that bet unless a mod/admin agrees to enforce it.


So what if they did enforce it, bobo will just come back under a different name...like twinkiesncheetos.

Florida_Bronco
01-22-2009, 12:07 AM
So what if they did enforce it, bobo will just come back under a different name...like twinkiesncheetos.

:giggle: :rofl: :thumbs:

BioCore
01-22-2009, 12:22 AM
Would I be the only one who wouldn't mind Shanny getting another HC job even if its the dreaded Chiefs? I seriously doubt it happens but it would safe us like 20 million dollars which could only be a positive for the up and coming FA and in these credit crunch times.

At the end of the day Bowlen moved on not Shanahan, I dont blame him at all for going for a job he feels is right for him. Its not like he owes us anything or he walked out on the job, Id be happy for him and would love to play him twice a year

Would give us a direct comparison on how big a mistake/positive hiring McDaniels was for the years

R8R H8R
01-22-2009, 12:26 AM
You fail to understand the difference.

Collinsworth wasn't reporting anything. He was just talking out of his ass.

Harry had a source. There was no opinion involved.

Who? Some guy slumped over a bar-stool just like him? :griese:

Bob's your Information Minister
01-22-2009, 12:30 AM
Would I be the only one who wouldn't mind Shanny getting another HC job even if its the dreaded Chiefs? I seriously doubt it happens but it would safe us like 20 million dollars which could only be a positive for the up and coming FA and in these credit crunch times.

It won't save you 20 million. It saves Bowlen whatever the Chiefs choose to pay him.

I highly doubt the Chiefs pay Shanahan 7 mil per year. Bowlen has to make up the difference.

BioCore
01-22-2009, 12:45 AM
It won't save you 20 million. It saves Bowlen whatever the Chiefs choose to pay him.

I highly doubt the Chiefs pay Shanahan 7 mil per year. Bowlen has to make up the difference.

Ah I see, cheers for the update. Not quite as good as I had thought but the point still stands, a coach of his pedigree and being the biggest name on the marekt isn't going to work for cheap even if its not 7 mil a year big

Bob's your Information Minister
01-22-2009, 12:48 AM
Ah I see, cheers for the update. Not quite as good as I had thought but the point still stands, a coach of his pedigree and being the biggest name on the marekt isn't going to work for cheap even if its not 7 mil a year big

He gets paid the same no matter what the Chiefs pay him for the first three years.

If the Chiefs give him 3 mil, the Broncos give him 4 mil.

If the Chiefs give him 7 mil, the Broncos are off the hook.

24champ
01-22-2009, 12:49 AM
Ah I see, cheers for the update.

What update?

Everything Bob is spewing on here is garbage. That fraud that calls himself a reporter doesn't even have a journalism degree and I doubt this Jack Harry asswipe has one either.

It's just a bunch of Cheap fans fabricating stuff so they can believe it themselves.

Popps
01-22-2009, 12:53 AM
I'll sign off the Mane for a month if Shanahan isn't the next head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs.

Why even bother, Jiggles. Just stop.

As for Shanahan, who cares. You can have him. He had his time... it's in the past and we're moving into the future.

I'd love to see him wind up in K.C.

Florida_Bronco
01-22-2009, 12:53 AM
What update?

Everything Bob is spewing on here is garbage. That fraud that calls himself a reporter doesn't even have a journalism degree and I doubt this Jack Harry asswipe has one either.

It's just a bunch of Cheap fans fabricating stuff so they can believe it themselves.

Again, I can't help but remind everyone that I clearly exposed him as a liar when he said he had inside sources to the Chiefs.

Bob's your Information Minister
01-22-2009, 12:56 AM
What update?

Everything Bob is spewing on here is garbage. That fraud that calls himself a reporter doesn't even have a journalism degree and I don't doubt this Jack Harry asswipe doesn't have one either.

It's just a bunch of Cheap fans fabricating stuff so they can believe it themselves.

Wow, anger is definitely the second stage of grief. I feel sorry for you.

FYI, I'm not a reporter. Nor did I fabricate anything.

24champ
01-22-2009, 01:01 AM
Again, I can't help but remind everyone that I clearly exposed him as a liar when he said he had inside sources to the Chiefs.

They are just fabricating s**** so they can come over here and go "see!see! I told you guys....da da da" and expect us to buy that garbage.


Seriously does anyone see someone like Schefter say this -

While we can't confirm it, we're hearing that it sounds like Mike Shanahan could be the replacement for Herm Edwards. We should find out by Friday.

24champ
01-22-2009, 01:02 AM
Wow, anger is definitely the second stage of grief. I feel sorry for you.

FYI, I'm not a reporter. Nor did I fabricate anything.

Go choke on a twinkie.

fontaine
01-22-2009, 02:24 AM
I couldn't read a word of this thread because bob's floppy man boobs and giant a$$ were in the way.

footstepsfrom#27
01-22-2009, 02:43 AM
You're linking to Chefs-freaking-Planet?! Puh-leeze.

I dunno who that source "Jack Harry" is (sounds like a fake name), but all the mensa-member posters there call him an unreliable drunk.


Look, it's Todd Haley to the chefs, and they're only waiting cause they can't announce it until the Super Bowl is over. You missed all the fireworks, Bob - start with Post #11: http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=76423
Bingo...Buff this is why I like you...I read 50 freaking posts of this crap before I finally found the one guy who bothered to read the posted link. :thanku:

BroncoMan4ever
01-22-2009, 03:03 AM
Gee, an 80 year old TE, a RB worn out by previous administrations, and two other guys who have done little to nothing as pros. Yeah, like I said, he has almost nothing to work with on offense.

sadly if this is true, even with a worn down and useless Larry Johnson he would be upgrading over the pieces of **** runners he brought into Denver every goddamn year after Portis was traded.

EmpireOrange
01-22-2009, 04:35 AM
Thats the rumour. Popular opinion says there will be an announcement within 48 hours.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=200825

Unless you have a qb it will never happen, not to mention the power Pioli has asked for--Forget it, d!ckweed. I personally hope he becomes KC's coach. KC will be rendered irrelevant for another decade at least.

Miss I.
01-22-2009, 04:47 AM
Just an op of course, but I read the link to the Chief Planet, and have to go with Buff on this, what kind of source is that? It's bullsh%t and there a couple of posters over there that actually question it's reliablility. So there are 2 ways I see this.
1. One it's a BS rumor with no real supporting evidence so who cares
2. Again, Shannahan is free to go whereever he wants, so more power to him, but why would he want to go to KC (aside from being vaguely close to Denver). The offense lacks a QB (Stafford is likely to go to Detroit so don't hold your breath Bob, or do hold your breath), Tony Gonzalez should've been traded if Carl wasn't such a jacka%%. The guy is stuck on a rebuilding team and now his value will probably not be as high as if they traded earlier. He needs to be on a team not rebuilding, who just needs a very good TE to do some work and train the next guy and be a leader. The guy is class and deserves to be somewhere better. As for the rest, a lot of unproven rookies, but that's okay it's rebuilding. LJ needs to be reigned in, but some of there other RBs don't look completely useless either. Bowe needs to stop dropping critical passes. He may be good, but he needs to be better. They need a QB with staying power and real leadership, heck they even did better with Pigpen because at least he has some mobility and didn't fall down everytime the wind blowed. There defense blows right now, but has some bright spots, if they get a decent DC they might be able to fix it, but the thing is I don't think Shanny is going to walk into a team who is weak on both sides of the ball and I don't believe he is going to come out seeking grudge matches with Denver. Most likely the guy sits out a year and probably goes outside the division.

Either way, WHo knows, but if the source is a freaking Chiefs board, I think I am going to have to say, yeah, not likely.

bowtown
01-22-2009, 05:21 AM
I love 15" dildios and this thread belongs in my butt.

...

Alphaman
01-22-2009, 05:26 AM
Another Chiefs fan here, I'll state that up front. Bob may be getting too excited too soon, but let me throw out a few things we know or at least think we know as well as some thoughts in this whole saga:

1) When Clark Hunt fired Carl Peterson he took complete control of the organization and worked very quietly in his GM search. There was much frustration in KC because noone knew what was going on. Sources knew of the Pioli discussions, but didn't know (and still don't know) the complete list of all who were interviewed. Hunt says the list was lengthy. Pioli's camp was tight lipped as well.

2) That same secrecy has been the mantra with the HC decision/search. We have heard that Pioli and Shanahan have had conversations. Again, because of the secrecy, that can't be confirmed.

3) You guys are correct that we'd still need to interview a minority candidate to satisfy the Rooney Rule before hiring Shanahan or anyone. There were rumors that Ron Rivera was seen in KC having dinner with Pioli. Not very reliable (brother of a friend of a bartender type thing). We do know that Pioli has a relationship with Romeo Crennell. News around him has been very quiet. He would likely be a candidate for defensive coordinator in KC and it is very possible that he has been or will be interviewed for the HC and the DC position (as a matter of full disclosure...Crennell is only my conjecture...no facts, no links to support)

4) I'm sure you all would agree that Shanahan is one of the best creative offensive minds in the league. He wasn't that good as GM and his defenses have suffered. By all national accounts, Pioli is one of the best personnel guys in the league. They would need to hire a quality defensive coordinator (again, I'll throw out the Pioli/Crennell connection).

5) Shanahan will make $7M next year. The only question is if Mr. Bowlen pays all of it or a part of it. Likely, a 5 year contract for Shanahan with KC would be around $3M for the first 3 years and $5M to $7M the last 2 years. Bowlen would pay the difference from $7M the first 3 years.

6) The real truth is that the Chiefs need a HC that can develop and properly utilize a franchise QB. I liked Cutler at Vanderbilt and I like what Shanahan has done with him. I think he's going to be a really good QB in the NFL. I'd like to see Shanahan draft a QB and then develop him in KC.

7) Gonzalez is on the backside of his career. He'll play for 2 or 3 years at the most. That being said, he's still the best TE in the league and my conjecture is that he'd be energized to play for Shanahan.

8) LJ is not as used up as you may think. He had the one season where he had 400 rushes. The season before that he only started 9 games. The year after the 400 rushes he played in 7 games. Last year he was held out of 4 games and had minimal touches in most of the other games. He should have relatively fresh legs the next couple of seasons.

9) I won't argue our rookies from last year (Charles, Albert, Dorsey, Flowers, Carr, Leggett). They've shown talent, but they were just rookies and have much to prove.

10) Detroit may very well take Stafford, but I really don't think they will. They have the 20th pick in the draft from Dallas and the 33rd pick in the draft (#1 in the 2nd round). They could very likely get Sanchez at #20 our move up 5 spaces to get him at #15 or so OR they could take Josh Freeman or Nate Ball at #33. They aren't forced to use #1 overall on Stafford. They could use the #1 overall pick to take the best player in the draft (Smith the Left OT from Alabama). There is a very good chance that Stafford would be there at #3 for Pioli/Shanahan to take.

11) Jack Harry is a TV/Radio guy in KC. He's not a drunk as some on the Chiefsplanet call him, but he is very loud. He was screaming the entire season for Carl Peterson to be fired. He was unprofessionally overjoyed (in my opinion) when it finally happened. He's probably got some decent sources at Arrowhead because he's been around for 20+ years. I'm not saying he's dead on correct here, but he's not one to automatically ignore either.


Just some thoughts. You guys are right that there is not a completely credible source reporting this. There won't be one until Pioli chooses to make an announcement. That being said, it's not as farfetched as some of you may believe. Shanahan knows the AFC West. If he can get a job in that division,it would give hime the best opportunity for success. Denver fired him, SD ownership/GM loves Turner, and Shanahan would NEVER work for Al Davis. That leaves KC which right now is a pretty good gig (high draft picks, $30+M in cap space, top personnel guy in Pioli in place, stadium renovation underway).

Attack what I've said if you must, but please understand that I've tried to be very respectful of you guys in this post. I'll be the first to admit that KC fans have envied what Shanahan consistently produced in Denver.

Br0nc0Buster
01-22-2009, 05:32 AM
This thread is funny

bowtown
01-22-2009, 05:32 AM
Another Chiefs fan here, I'll state that up front. Bob may be getting too excited too soon, but let me throw out a few things we know or at least think we know as well as some thoughts in this whole saga:

1) When Clark Hunt fired Carl Peterson he took complete control of the organization and worked very quietly in his GM search. There was much frustration in KC because noone knew what was going on. Sources knew of the Pioli discussions, but didn't know (and still don't know) the complete list of all who were interviewed. Hunt says the list was lengthy. Pioli's camp was tight lipped as well.

2) That same secrecy has been the mantra with the HC decision/search. We have heard that Pioli and Shanahan have had conversations. Again, because of the secrecy, that can't be confirmed.

3) You guys are correct that we'd still need to interview a minority candidate to satisfy the Rooney Rule before hiring Shanahan or anyone. There were rumors that Ron Rivera was seen in KC having dinner with Pioli. Not very reliable (brother of a friend of a bartender type thing). We do know that Pioli has a relationship with Romeo Crennell. News around him has been very quiet. He would likely be a candidate for defensive coordinator in KC and it is very possible that he has been or will be interviewed for the HC and the DC position (as a matter of full disclosure...Crennell is only my conjecture...no facts, no links to support)

4) I'm sure you all would agree that Shanahan is one of the best creative offensive minds in the league. He wasn't that good as GM and his defenses have suffered. By all national accounts, Pioli is one of the best personnel guys in the league. They would need to hire a quality defensive coordinator (again, I'll throw out the Pioli/Crennell connection).

5) Shanahan will make $7M next year. The only question is if Mr. Bowlen pays all of it or a part of it. Likely, a 5 year contract for Shanahan with KC would be around $3M for the first 3 years and $5M to $7M the last 2 years. Bowlen would pay the difference from $7M the first 3 years.

6) The real truth is that the Chiefs need a HC that can develop and properly utilize a franchise QB. I liked Cutler at Vanderbilt and I like what Shanahan has done with him. I think he's going to be a really good QB in the NFL. I'd like to see Shanahan draft a QB and then develop him in KC.

7) Gonzalez is on the backside of his career. He'll play for 2 or 3 years at the most. That being said, he's still the best TE in the league and my conjecture is that he'd be energized to play for Shanahan.

8) LJ is not as used up as you may think. He had the one season where he had 400 rushes. The season before that he only started 9 games. The year after the 400 rushes he played in 7 games. Last year he was held out of 4 games and had minimal touches in most of the other games. He should have relatively fresh legs the next couple of seasons.

9) I won't argue our rookies from last year (Charles, Albert, Dorsey, Flowers, Carr, Leggett). They've shown talent, but they were just rookies and have much to prove.

10) Detroit may very well take Stafford, but I really don't think they will. They have the 20th pick in the draft from Dallas and the 33rd pick in the draft (#1 in the 2nd round). They could very likely get Sanchez at #20 our move up 5 spaces to get him at #15 or so OR they could take Josh Freeman or Nate Ball at #33. They aren't forced to use #1 overall on Stafford. They could use the #1 overall pick to take the best player in the draft (Smith the Left OT from Alabama). There is a very good chance that Stafford would be there at #3 for Pioli/Shanahan to take.

11) Jack Harry is a TV/Radio guy in KC. He's not a drunk as some on the Chiefsplanet call him, but he is very loud. He was screaming the entire season for Carl Peterson to be fired. He was unprofessionally overjoyed (in my opinion) when it finally happened. He's probably got some decent sources at Arrowhead because he's been around for 20+ years. I'm not saying he's dead on correct here, but he's not one to automatically ignore either.


Just some thoughts. You guys are right that there is not a completely credible source reporting this. There won't be one until Pioli chooses to make an announcement. That being said, it's not as farfetched as some of you may believe. Shanahan knows the AFC West. If he can get a job in that division,it would give hime the best opportunity for success. Denver fired him, SD ownership/GM loves Turner, and Shanahan would NEVER work for Al Davis. That leaves KC which right now is a pretty good gig (high draft picks, $30+M in cap space, top personnel guy in Pioli in place, stadium renovation underway).

Attack what I've said if you must, but please understand that I've tried to be very respectful of you guys in this post. I'll be the first to admit that KC fans have envied what Shanahan consistently produced in Denver.

Up yours.

rad
01-22-2009, 05:35 AM
Since they haven't interviewed a minority coach (you know, that pesky rooney rule thing)... I'm guessing this is just more hopeful BS from chef fans.

Nobody knows that. 1 Arrowhead Drive has been an impenetrable vault as far as information goes.

Alphaman
01-22-2009, 05:39 AM
Up yours.


Hilarious!

TheReverend
01-22-2009, 05:47 AM
Nobody knows that. 1 Arrowhead Drive has been an impenetrable vault as far as information goes.

The people at 2 Arrowhead Drive are still complaining about the stench. When is the city going to take action?

oubronco
01-22-2009, 06:05 AM
have they fired Herm ?

rad
01-22-2009, 06:07 AM
Up yours.



The people at 2 Arrowhead Drive are still complaining about the stench. When is the city going to take action?

WTF? This forum has gone downhill in terms of quality. Sorry TJ.

rad
01-22-2009, 06:10 AM
have they fired Herm ?


No.

Or, they have and nobody knows yet.

Oh, and ftr, I'm not excited about the possibility of Shanny as HC of KC.....

TheReverend
01-22-2009, 06:13 AM
WTF? This forum has gone downhill in terms of quality. Sorry TJ.

You can thank Bob and KCSheepStud for how we treat Chief fans, especially when they come with unsubstantiated rumors about our HoF coach.

MileHighMagic
01-22-2009, 06:28 AM
Rad, that avy makes me want to gouge my eyes out with a spoon.

Man-Goblin
01-22-2009, 06:30 AM
As far as the guaranteed contract goes, no business man such as Bowlen would leave out a relatively common clause to protect himself from getting screwed, especially in a multi-year, multi-million dollar deal. There is most likely a stipulation in the contract that states that any contract Shanahan signs would have to be competitive and for his perceived market value, or else the guarantee is void. Usually, if there's any question about it, a third party is brought in to review the situation, and the arbitrator's ruling would have to be honored. You see this in the business world with some guaranteed contracts and non-competes.

In other words, it would be silly for Shanahan to sign a low-ball contract because he would most likely lose a lot of guaranteed mansion mortgage payments.

DBBBSBS
01-22-2009, 06:31 AM
Another Chiefs fan here, I'll state that up front. Bob may be getting too excited too soon, but let me throw out a few things we know or at least think we know as well as some thoughts in this whole saga:

1) When Clark Hunt fired Carl Peterson he took complete control of the organization and worked very quietly in his GM search. There was much frustration in KC because noone knew what was going on. Sources knew of the Pioli discussions, but didn't know (and still don't know) the complete list of all who were interviewed. Hunt says the list was lengthy. Pioli's camp was tight lipped as well.

2) That same secrecy has been the mantra with the HC decision/search. We have heard that Pioli and Shanahan have had conversations. Again, because of the secrecy, that can't be confirmed.

3) You guys are correct that we'd still need to interview a minority candidate to satisfy the Rooney Rule before hiring Shanahan or anyone. There were rumors that Ron Rivera was seen in KC having dinner with Pioli. Not very reliable (brother of a friend of a bartender type thing). We do know that Pioli has a relationship with Romeo Crennell. News around him has been very quiet. He would likely be a candidate for defensive coordinator in KC and it is very possible that he has been or will be interviewed for the HC and the DC position (as a matter of full disclosure...Crennell is only my conjecture...no facts, no links to support)

4) I'm sure you all would agree that Shanahan is one of the best creative offensive minds in the league. He wasn't that good as GM and his defenses have suffered. By all national accounts, Pioli is one of the best personnel guys in the league. They would need to hire a quality defensive coordinator (again, I'll throw out the Pioli/Crennell connection).

5) Shanahan will make $7M next year. The only question is if Mr. Bowlen pays all of it or a part of it. Likely, a 5 year contract for Shanahan with KC would be around $3M for the first 3 years and $5M to $7M the last 2 years. Bowlen would pay the difference from $7M the first 3 years.

6) The real truth is that the Chiefs need a HC that can develop and properly utilize a franchise QB. I liked Cutler at Vanderbilt and I like what Shanahan has done with him. I think he's going to be a really good QB in the NFL. I'd like to see Shanahan draft a QB and then develop him in KC.

7) Gonzalez is on the backside of his career. He'll play for 2 or 3 years at the most. That being said, he's still the best TE in the league and my conjecture is that he'd be energized to play for Shanahan.

8) LJ is not as used up as you may think. He had the one season where he had 400 rushes. The season before that he only started 9 games. The year after the 400 rushes he played in 7 games. Last year he was held out of 4 games and had minimal touches in most of the other games. He should have relatively fresh legs the next couple of seasons.

9) I won't argue our rookies from last year (Charles, Albert, Dorsey, Flowers, Carr, Leggett). They've shown talent, but they were just rookies and have much to prove.

10) Detroit may very well take Stafford, but I really don't think they will. They have the 20th pick in the draft from Dallas and the 33rd pick in the draft (#1 in the 2nd round). They could very likely get Sanchez at #20 our move up 5 spaces to get him at #15 or so OR they could take Josh Freeman or Nate Ball at #33. They aren't forced to use #1 overall on Stafford. They could use the #1 overall pick to take the best player in the draft (Smith the Left OT from Alabama). There is a very good chance that Stafford would be there at #3 for Pioli/Shanahan to take.

11) Jack Harry is a TV/Radio guy in KC. He's not a drunk as some on the Chiefsplanet call him, but he is very loud. He was screaming the entire season for Carl Peterson to be fired. He was unprofessionally overjoyed (in my opinion) when it finally happened. He's probably got some decent sources at Arrowhead because he's been around for 20+ years. I'm not saying he's dead on correct here, but he's not one to automatically ignore either.


Just some thoughts. You guys are right that there is not a completely credible source reporting this. There won't be one until Pioli chooses to make an announcement. That being said, it's not as farfetched as some of you may believe. Shanahan knows the AFC West. If he can get a job in that division,it would give hime the best opportunity for success. Denver fired him, SD ownership/GM loves Turner, and Shanahan would NEVER work for Al Davis. That leaves KC which right now is a pretty good gig (high draft picks, $30+M in cap space, top personnel guy in Pioli in place, stadium renovation underway).

Attack what I've said if you must, but please understand that I've tried to be very respectful of you guys in this post. I'll be the first to admit that KC fans have envied what Shanahan consistently produced in Denver.

why dont you guys get down on your knees and lick everyones d*** , may be that is what u guys r trying to do via this thread. bunch of cheapos

rad
01-22-2009, 06:34 AM
Rad, that avy makes me want to gouge my eyes out with a spoon.

I'm with ya, brother. I need to de-sensitize myself, in case it does happen.

rad
01-22-2009, 06:37 AM
why dont you guys get down on your knees and lick everyones d*** , may be that is what u guys r trying to do via this thread. bunch of cheapos

Irony = Your username and your use of capitals when posting.:-*

Peoples Champ
01-22-2009, 06:51 AM
Not all of us . I think you are a turd all the same but I will root for Shanahan no matter were he goes even in KCif that is were ends up . why would I because Mike Shanahan is all class I have never seen cheap play come from his teams . so I will be a ok rooting for a KC lead team under Mike Shanahan as long as the broncos are not playing them and it does not affect the broncos .



Yes, maybe now KC will know about Class. And they will know how it feels to have a classy coach, and not throw every coach under.

Meck77
01-22-2009, 06:56 AM
So does this mean shanny would have to live in a trailer?

bowtown
01-22-2009, 06:58 AM
So does this mean shanny would have to live in a trailer?

No, he'll probably build a Mctrailer.

Peoples Champ
01-22-2009, 07:00 AM
So does this mean shanny would have to live in a trailer?


No, he would live in his Denver mansion and commute, plane or helicopter.

Beantown Bronco
01-22-2009, 07:01 AM
As far as the guaranteed contract goes, no business man such as Bowlen would leave out a relatively common clause to protect himself from getting screwed, especially in a multi-year, multi-million dollar deal. There is most likely a stipulation in the contract that states that any contract Shanahan signs would have to be competitive and for his perceived market value, or else the guarantee is void. Usually, if there's any question about it, a third party is brought in to review the situation, and the arbitrator's ruling would have to be honored. You see this in the business world with some guaranteed contracts and non-competes.

In other words, it would be silly for Shanahan to sign a low-ball contract because he would most likely lose a lot of guaranteed mansion mortgage payments.

Any new team could get around this by saying that their offer may appear low, but isn't, because they are paying him solely as a head coach and not as a head coach and a GM.

SpringStein
01-22-2009, 07:01 AM
From PFT this AM...certaily based on rumors only.

As Chiefs coach Herm Edwards continues to slowly twist in the wind, weíre hearing stronger indications that he wonít be twisting much longer.

Though itís hardly a surprise, the signs currently are pointing at Edwards being fired with one year left on his contract.

Then the question becomes identifying the next head coach. And, inexplicably, a name gaining traction via rumors and reports that have been sent to us by readers is former Broncos coach Mike Shanahan.

On the surface, Shanahan and G.M. Scott Pioli donít really fit, assuming that Shanahan aspires to run the show in the same way he ran it in Denver.

But thereís always a chance that Shanahan has reflected on his ultimate failure in Denver, and that he has realized that his errors in personnel, both with free agency and the draft, placed far more pressure on him as a coach. And maybe he has decided that heíd rather let an established personnel exec call the shots and just focus on coaching the team.

Then again, maybe Shanahan simply will say whatever he has to say and do whatever he has to do to get his foot in the door, and then heíll worry about trying to take the place over.

Regardless, we expect something to start happening soon in Kansas City.

HEAV
01-22-2009, 07:14 AM
Every other day a report comes out about the Chef's either firing Herm or play the one year lets wait and see game.

This is just another one of those wish-rumor blurbs.

Whatever Shanny does is fine with me. Ihave a new coach and staff and new direction.

I'm a BRONCOS fan.

DenverBrit
01-22-2009, 07:23 AM
Shanahan in KC?? ROFL!

Another of Boob's fantasies.....like getting laid, leaving his mother's basement developing a personality......having a life!!

None of which is going to happen in Shanahan's lifetime!

Bob's your Information Minister
01-22-2009, 07:24 AM
Shanahan in KC?? ROFL!

Another of Boob's fantasies.....like getting laid, leaving his mother's basement developing a personality......having a life!!

None of which is going to happen in Shanahan's lifetime!

Question: if Shanahan becomes Chiefs coach, does this mean the rest of my fantasies come true? :yayaya:

bronclvr
01-22-2009, 07:24 AM
If Mike goes to KC, I won't be able to hate them as much-*sigh*

Bob's your Information Minister
01-22-2009, 07:26 AM
If Mike goes to KC, I won't be able to hate them as much-*sigh*

Trust me, you will hate them MORE when Shanahan is bootlegging the _enver _efense to death.

jayman_37
01-22-2009, 07:28 AM
If this is true a little of me will die inside.

Garcia Bronco
01-22-2009, 07:29 AM
I talked to Kyle Shanahan last night, Mike's son. I ran into him at Cherry Creek Mall in the Oakley Store here in Denver. He said his dad is going to coach this year and most likely for the Chiefs. There is one other team out there that could land his Dad, but KC is closer to Denver and Shanahan would like to be as close to Colorado as possible. Anyway, take it for what it's worth.

Kaylore
01-22-2009, 07:33 AM
You gotta love Bob who was telling us all year how Shanahan has lost it as a coach and we were "just spinning our wheels" and now he thinks he's God's gift.

Personally if we played Shanahan twice a year it would certainly make things interesting. I'd be curious how it would all look. Shanahan attacking the crappy defense he built with ease would piss me off.

We'll see. Hopefully he takes Slowik with him to KC. ;)

tsiguy96
01-22-2009, 07:33 AM
why dont you idiots take the "wait and see" approach before immediately accepting or denying what is being said.

Broncoman13
01-22-2009, 07:44 AM
Question: if Shanahan becomes Chiefs coach, does this mean the rest of my fantasies come true? :yayaya:

Yes Boob, and I'm sure there are sheep all over South Texas that are sweating bullets right about now!

bronco militia
01-22-2009, 07:45 AM
You gotta love Bob who was telling us all year how Shanahan has lost it as a coach and we were "just spinning our wheels" and now he thinks he's God's gift.

Personally if we played Shanahan twice a year it would certainly make things interesting. I'd be curious how it would all look. Shanahan attacking the crappy defense he built with ease would piss me off.

We'll see. Hopefully he takes Slowik with him to KC. ;)

slowdick is on his way to Detroit to coach the Lions secondary

Alphaman
01-22-2009, 07:48 AM
why dont you guys get down on your knees and lick everyones d*** , may be that is what u guys r trying to do via this thread. bunch of cheapos

WOW!!! i was truly hoping for intelligent dialogue. Disappointing response...very disappointing.

tsk tsk ??? :confuzzle :notthissh

TonyR
01-22-2009, 08:11 AM
WOW!!! i was truly hoping for intelligent dialogue. Disappointing response...very disappointing.


This place is a bit irrational when it comes to division opponents. Actually, it's a bit irrational about most things. Don't let the vocal idiots get to you, particularly the ones who feel the need to re-quote your entire post in their response. I'll never understand that.

vancejohnson82
01-22-2009, 08:14 AM
this is obviously ANOTHER thread to start ridiculous arguments/rumors and get people riled up

and who the hell is going to "bootleg us to death" Bob??? Tyler Thigpen??

Bob's your Information Minister
01-22-2009, 08:15 AM
this is obviously ANOTHER thread to start ridiculous arguments/rumors and get people riled up

and who the hell is going to "bootleg us to death" Bob??? Tyler Thigpen??

He could do it. He's one of the fastest quarterbacks in the NFL. I'm sure Shanahan could do for Thigpen what he did for Jake Plummer.

bowtown
01-22-2009, 08:16 AM
i a m idiot, understand that.

I also hate people who do that, that's why I only quoted the important parts of yours. :thumbs:

DBBBSBS
01-22-2009, 08:22 AM
WOW!!! i was truly hoping for intelligent dialogue. Disappointing response...very disappointing.

tsk tsk ??? :confuzzle :notthissh

I am disappointed you are not adding much input either. before commenting on others with your 20 odd responses.. get up there first and then post something productive

DBBBSBS
01-22-2009, 08:24 AM
He could do it. He's one of the fastest quarterbacks in the NFL. I'm sure Shanahan could do for Thigpen what he did for Jake Plummer.

Plummer was decent enough.. Thigpen, will be sitting outside nfl in a few years from now. Dont compare a guy who played for 10+ yrs always as a starter with a joker who had just a year under his belt

KCStud
01-22-2009, 08:30 AM
Apparently they said on the Colorado News that Ratty is close to signing with KC.

I have been critical of Ratty for 10 years, but his role will be different in KC.

Ratty couldn't draft defensive players. That was his big knock. He was a bad GM, but a very good coach.

KC needs a good coach. Someone who can COACH the players. Pioli has proven he can find great players on both sides of the ball.

KC needs a coach who can formulate a gameplan, make adjustments, and finish teams off. Herm can't do that and it showed.

We lost 3 games this year that we should have won. SD twice and TB when we were beating them by 11 at halftime. Should have been 31 to 6 at half.

I would love to have Ratty as long as KC gets a good DC to run the defense. Rumors are saying Crennel and McDermot are the candidates.

Here's the article on Shanahan

http://www.nbcactionnews.com/sports/story/Mike-Shanahan-Could-be-Next-Chiefs-Head-Coach/EjWyJUYPT0q-lAAApuqgXw.cspx

Simply Red
01-22-2009, 08:33 AM
not to troll, but; I hated him when he was w/ you all. I'd roll out the red carpet for him in KC, though. Trouble is, both him and SP want total control. I don't see this materializing. But hey, maybe they can compromise. *shrug*

theAPAOps5
01-22-2009, 08:36 AM
But KCDud you said Shanahan would suck being your coach. Funny how things turn around when it looks to be possible.

HemiEd
01-22-2009, 08:36 AM
I talked to Kyle Shanahan last night, Mike's son. I ran into him at Cherry Creek Mall in the Oakley Store here in Denver. He said his dad is going to coach this year and most likely for the Chiefs. There is one other team out there that could land his Dad, but KC is closer to Denver and Shanahan would like to be as close to Colorado as possible. Anyway, take it for what it's worth.

Here is a credible source, Garcia Bronco don't play games on this kind of stuff.

Flex Gunmetal
01-22-2009, 08:37 AM
Well it would be nice for the chefs to be relevant again to lend the AFCW some credibility. It would also provide some interesting drama depending on how well he does. I'm hardly taking this rumor seriously.

Alphaman
01-22-2009, 08:37 AM
I am disappointed you are not adding much input either. before commenting on others with your 20 odd responses.. get up there first and then post something productive

Uh...I thought I did. See post #101

Meck77
01-22-2009, 08:38 AM
I could care less where Shanny goes but it does make sense that he'd want to be within a 1 hour flight of all his business ventures.

Alphaman
01-22-2009, 08:39 AM
Apparently they said on the Colorado News that Ratty is close to signing with KC.Here's the article on Shanahan

http://www.nbcactionnews.com/sports/story/Mike-Shanahan-Could-be-Next-Chiefs-Head-Coach/EjWyJUYPT0q-lAAApuqgXw.cspx

I'd be careful relying on any media reports. What we learned in the days leading up to Pioli is that the media tends to quote each other. One story turns into 10, but those 10 use the first story as their source.

brncobrett
01-22-2009, 08:40 AM
It was on am 1510 this morning, that word has it Shanny was going to KC...

KCStud
01-22-2009, 08:41 AM
But KCDud you said Shanahan would suck being your coach. Funny how things turn around when it looks to be possible.

Why don't you learn to read. I said Ratty sucked because he can't draft defensive talent. Pioli can draft defensive talent and I trust who he puts at DC. Problem fixed. I've given Ratty his props for his offensive picks, but not on defense.

Look it up in my posts.

Gcver2ver3
01-22-2009, 08:46 AM
He could do it. He's one of the fastest quarterbacks in the NFL. I'm sure Shanahan could do for Thigpen what he did for Jake Plummer.

good luck with that...

TonyR
01-22-2009, 08:48 AM
...I hated him when he was w/ you all. I'd roll out the red carpet for him in KC, though.

Understandable, and no different than hating a player when he's on another team but you love him when he puts on your team's uni!

Kaylore
01-22-2009, 08:49 AM
Why don't you learn to read. I said Ratty sucked because he can't draft defensive talent. Pioli can draft defensive talent and I trust who he puts at DC. Problem fixed. I've given Ratty his props for his offensive picks, but not on defense.

Look it up in my posts.
LOL

I will now destroy you with the search function

KC doesn't want any part of that piece of **** Rat. No thanks to chopblocking. Ratty isn't that good of a coach people. He can't fend for himself without Elway and it showed for about 10 years
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=2227520#post2227520

And Ratty isn't going to KC. The fans don't want him and he doesn't want us.

yes we would love to have the guru mastermind that can't draft defense and used a 3rd round pick on Maurice Clarett:rofl:


Nobody in KC wants Ratty. Ratty has done nothing since Elway except choke.
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=2230062#post2230062

You have been owned, Sheepstud.:thumbs:

theAPAOps5
01-22-2009, 08:50 AM
Why don't you learn to read. I said Ratty sucked because he can't draft defensive talent. Pioli can draft defensive talent and I trust who he puts at DC. Problem fixed. I've given Ratty his props for his offensive picks, but not on defense.

Look it up in my posts.

You said Shanny would suck if he came to KC. Dance puppet, dance!

wolf754life
01-22-2009, 08:51 AM
its a southern thing............

theAPAOps5
01-22-2009, 08:52 AM
LOL

I will now destroy you with the search function


http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=2227520#post2227520






http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=2230062#post2230062

:rofl:

Oh god that was quick. Can a mod please change this jokes name to KCDud he is a damned idiot.

Flex Gunmetal
01-22-2009, 08:54 AM
LOL

I will now destroy you with the search function


http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=2227520#post2227520






http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=2230062#post2230062

You have been owned, Sheepstud.:thumbs:

Well done.

DenverBrit
01-22-2009, 08:55 AM
Why don't you learn to read. I said Ratty sucked because he can't draft defensive talent. Pioli can draft defensive talent and I trust who he puts at DC. Problem fixed. I've given Ratty his props for his offensive picks, but not on defense.

Look it up in my posts.

Denver managed ONE playoff win in 10 years, I know that would make KC fans giddy....to win just one post season game.

Oh, and the Goodmans are the ones responsible for turning around Denver's drafts, don't get to excited.

Anyway, it would be great if anyone would hire Shanny, if only to release the 21 million (or the difference) back into Bolwen's coffers.

OABB
01-22-2009, 08:57 AM
23191

bronco militia
01-22-2009, 08:57 AM
bwhahaha

USMCBladerunner
01-22-2009, 08:58 AM
I didn't post it here because I was afraid, but the day Shanny got fired I told my dad that he would coach in KC. I was swayed by the Pioli hire, but maybe he'll go there anyhow. Weird.

Gcver2ver3
01-22-2009, 09:01 AM
LOL

I will now destroy you with the search function


http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=2227520#post2227520






http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=2230062#post2230062

You have been owned, Sheepstud.:thumbs:


ouch...

Bob's your Information Minister
01-22-2009, 09:01 AM
Anyway, it would be great if anyone would hire Shanny, if only to release the 21 million (or the difference) back into Bolwen's coffers.

Bowlen pays Shanny regardless. Sorry. Maybe not 7m, but for three years, Mike Shanahan will be cashing checks with Pat Bowlen's name on them.

Kaylore
01-22-2009, 09:03 AM
Bowlen pays Shanny regardless. Sorry. Maybe not 7m, but for three years, Mike Shanahan will be cashing checks with Pat Bowlen's name on them.

I don't think that's true.

Taco John
01-22-2009, 09:06 AM
I don't think that's true.

It is.


I'll have a link for you soon...

Kaylore
01-22-2009, 09:06 AM
It is.


I'll have a link for you soon...

Thank you!

bronco militia
01-22-2009, 09:06 AM
from Garcia Bronco at CP

I talked to Kyle Shanahan last night, Mike's son. I ran into him at Cherry Creek Mall in the Oakley Store here in Denver. He said his dad is going to coach this year and most likely for the Chiefs. There is one other team out there that could land his Dad, but KC is closer to Denver and Shanahan would like to be as close to Colorado as possible. Anyway, take it for what it's worth.

Alphaman
01-22-2009, 09:07 AM
LOL

I will now destroy you with the search function


http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=2227520#post2227520


http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=2230062#post2230062

You have been owned, Sheepstud.:thumbs:

OK. I do have to admit....that was funny!!!

Taco John
01-22-2009, 09:07 AM
Here it is... Per Klis:



Hey, Mike. Does ANY contract with another NFL team negate the Broncos' obligation to Mike Shanahan? Thanks!
-- Brad C., Anchorage, Alaska Brad - It's more appropriate to use the word "offset" than "negate." Bowlen essentially owes Shanahan $7 million for each of the next three years. Let's say, Shanahan is hired by the Cleveland Browns, who give him a $4 million-a-year contract. In this situation, Bowlen would still have to pay Shanahan the difference, or $3 million a year. Better believe Bowlen's preference is for Shanahan to be coaching in 2009.

Klis's most recent mailbag:
http://www.denverpost.com/broncosmailbag

summerdenver
01-22-2009, 09:08 AM
not true at all. He only gets that money if he decides to sit on his ass the next 3 years to enjoy his shiny new the Shana-mansion...ô

I think Pat will have to pay him the difference, if his new job pays him less than 7 mil.

Dudeskey
01-22-2009, 09:09 AM
I see, so Bowlen wouldn't be out the entire amount. still an expensive change of hands though

Kaylore
01-22-2009, 09:09 AM
Here it is... Per Klis:



Hey, Mike. Does ANY contract with another NFL team negate the Broncos' obligation to Mike Shanahan? Thanks!
-- Brad C., Anchorage, Alaska Brad - It's more appropriate to use the word "offset" than "negate." Bowlen essentially owes Shanahan $7 million for each of the next three years. Let's say, Shanahan is hired by the Cleveland Browns, who give him a $4 million-a-year contract. In this situation, Bowlen would still have to pay Shanahan the difference, or $3 million a year. Better believe Bowlen's preference is for Shanahan to be coaching in 2009.

Klis's most recent mailbag:
http://www.denverpost.com/broncosmailbag
Thanks. Well that's good to know and good for Shanahan. He gets 7 mil regardless. Mr. Bowlen must have been pretty confident in this decision.

Taco John
01-22-2009, 09:09 AM
If any of this rumor is true, which I'm still dubious about, Shanahan would be smart to accept a backloaded contract. Or even a three year minimum contract. Any money he can take out of Pat Bowlen's pocket while coaching against us is a strategic advantage in his favor.

Bowlen may be really stepping in it here.

He'll be the laughingstock of the league if he's paying Shanahan to coach the Chiefs.

Hopefully Bowlen put in an AFC West clause in there of some sort.

crawdad
01-22-2009, 09:11 AM
LOL

I will now destroy you with the search function


You have been owned, Sheepstud.:thumbs:

Nice comeback and brilliant to say the least!

Where did the KCDud go? He disappeared on that one.

Hercules Rockefeller
01-22-2009, 09:12 AM
Here it is... Per Klis:



Hey, Mike. Does ANY contract with another NFL team negate the Broncos' obligation to Mike Shanahan? Thanks!
-- Brad C., Anchorage, Alaska Brad - It's more appropriate to use the word "offset" than "negate." Bowlen essentially owes Shanahan $7 million for each of the next three years. Let's say, Shanahan is hired by the Cleveland Browns, who give him a $4 million-a-year contract. In this situation, Bowlen would still have to pay Shanahan the difference, or $3 million a year. Better believe Bowlen's preference is for Shanahan to be coaching in 2009.

Klis's most recent mailbag:
http://www.denverpost.com/broncosmailbag

Well ****, if Klis finally explained it, maybe people will stop asking the ****ing question? Especially since there have been people on this board since the day Shanahan was fired saying exactly that. It's basic contract law.

Man-Goblin
01-22-2009, 09:12 AM
not true at all. He only gets that money if he decides to sit on his ass the next 3 years to enjoy his shiny new the Shana-mansion...ô

No, he would have to pay the difference between the two contracts provided the offer is for a fair market value. As I stated before, clauses like that are put in contracts to protect companies; almost like a non-compete clause. To omit language like that from a multi-year, multi-million dollar contract would be assinine. Without it, there would be nothing preventing Shanahan from coaching the Chiefs for a dollar next year. If that's not collusion and bad for the competitive balance between two franchises, I don't know what is.

TheReverend
01-22-2009, 09:12 AM
I see, so Bowlen wouldn't be out the entire amount. still an expensive change of hands though

McD works on the cheap. They obviously supersized his contract and got his brother for free.

bronco militia
01-22-2009, 09:13 AM
from Garcia Bronco at CP

I talked to Kyle Shanahan last night, Mike's son. I ran into him at Cherry Creek Mall in the Oakley Store here in Denver. He said his dad is going to coach this year and most likely for the Chiefs. There is one other team out there that could land his Dad, but KC is closer to Denver and Shanahan would like to be as close to Colorado as possible. Anyway, take it for what it's worth.


come on Garcia...get your ass over here

Kaylore
01-22-2009, 09:14 AM
Where did the KCDud go? He disappeared on that one.

http://compoundthinking.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/istock_000002694919xsmall.jpg

Broncoman13
01-22-2009, 09:15 AM
If any of this rumor is true, which I'm still dubious about, Shanahan would be smart to accept a backloaded contract. Or even a three year minimum contract. Any money he can take out of Pat Bowlen's pocket while coaching against us is a strategic advantage in his favor.

Bowlen may be really stepping in it here.

He'll be the laughingstock of the league if he's paying Shanahan to coach the Chiefs.

Hopefully Bowlen put in an AFC West clause in there of some sort.


All on point!!

OABB
01-22-2009, 09:17 AM
23192

Tombstone RJ
01-22-2009, 09:18 AM
If any of this rumor is true, which I'm still dubious about, Shanahan would be smart to accept a backloaded contract. Or even a three year minimum contract. Any money he can take out of Pat Bowlen's pocket while coaching against us is a strategic advantage in his favor.

Bowlen may be really stepping in it here.

He'll be the laughingstock of the league if he's paying Shanahan to coach the Chiefs.

Hopefully Bowlen put in an AFC West clause in there of some sort.

Yep, hopefully, he pulled an Al Davis, essentially voiding payment if he coaches in the AFCW.

Broncoman13
01-22-2009, 09:19 AM
No, he would have to pay the difference between the two contracts provided the offer is for a fair market value. As I stated before, clauses like that are put in contracts to protect companies; almost like a non-compete clause. To omit language like that from a multi-year, multi-million dollar contract would be assinine. Without it, there would be nothing preventing Shanahan from coaching the Chiefs for a dollar next year. If that's not collusion and bad for the competitive balance between two franchises, I don't know what is.

You're making a lot of sense, I hope for Bowlen's sake that contract language is present! If not, it won't be the money that's he's paying Shanny that will kill him. It will be the fact that HE is paying Shanahan to coach for our 2nd most hated rival!!!!!!

Kaylore
01-22-2009, 09:20 AM
Then pay him. If there's anything we should have learned its that you pay Shanahan what he's owed.

bronco militia
01-22-2009, 09:20 AM
more from cp:

Okay gang, as many of you know I still have friends at the highest level in the Chiefs organization and have this info to share with full confidence: Mike Shanahan is the new HC. His announcement will come Thursday or Friday at the latest. Pioli and Shanahan are working out the finer points of his contract tonight, but the deal is sealed. Also, Pioli informed Herm Edwards and his remaining coaching staff that they will be released. All assistants can reapply through Shanahan.

I only share this information because I'm no longer with the team and it's fun to share that a new day is dawning at Arrowhead. Mike Shanahan will quickly move to clean out the offices and hire new coordinators.

The only info I have on the new defensive coordinator is it will not be Greg Robinson. Greg coaches in college and does not want to leave a place where he can hide his idiocy.

Mike Shanahan has contacted Romeo Crennel, but I don't know any info beyond that.

rad
01-22-2009, 09:21 AM
LOL

I will now destroy you with the search function

Holy god, that's funny.

Broncoman13
01-22-2009, 09:21 AM
If Shanny ends up in KC I will be bummed and very upset with our franchise. In fact, I'm bummed right now just thinking it is a real possibility. I didn't question the firing but if he ends up in KC... Pat Bowlen made the biggest mistake in the history of Broncos football. We're talking Al Davis type mistake here!

Hercules Rockefeller
01-22-2009, 09:23 AM
Wonder who the token interview is going to be to comply with the Rooney Rule?

Dudeskey
01-22-2009, 09:27 AM
Then pay him. If there's anything we should have learned its that you pay Shanahan what he's owed.

yep, even if it is a measly $250,000...ô

Taco John
01-22-2009, 09:27 AM
Wonder who the token interview is going to be to comply with the Rooney Rule?


Personally, I think Herm Edwards counts. And even then, the fine is only $200,000 if it doesn't. But it would be easy for them to appeal and win considering that they are firing a black head coach, and there aren't any black head coaches who are anywhere close to being as qualified as Mike is right now.

rad
01-22-2009, 09:27 AM
more from cp:

Okay gang, as many of you know I still have friends at the highest level in the Chiefs organization and have this info to share with full confidence: Mike Shanahan is the new HC. His announcement will come Thursday or Friday at the latest. Pioli and Shanahan are working out the finer points of his contract tonight, but the deal is sealed. Also, Pioli informed Herm Edwards and his remaining coaching staff that they will be released. All assistants can reapply through Shanahan.

I only share this information because I'm no longer with the team and it's fun to share that a new day is dawning at Arrowhead. Mike Shanahan will quickly move to clean out the offices and hire new coordinators.

The only info I have on the new defensive coordinator is it will not be Greg Robinson. Greg coaches in college and does not want to leave a place where he can hide his idiocy.

Mike Shanahan has contacted Romeo Crennel, but I don't know any info beyond that.

This is a doctored version of the infamous Rocky Alden email (Pre-Pioli):

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5367560&postcount=1352

From the coalition website:

Interesting take on Pioli from the Boston Globe chat area:

Update from someone inside the Chiefs organization!
Submitted by Rocky Alden on January 7, 2009 - 6:13pm.

Okay gang, as many of you know I still have friends at the highest level in the Chiefs organization and have this info to share with full confidence: Scott Pioli is the new GM. His announcement will come Thursday or Friday at the latest. Clark and Scott are working out the finer points of his contract tonight (money & control), but the deal is sealed. Also, Clark informed Herm Edwards and his coaching staff that they will be released. All assistants can reapply through Scott.

I only share this information because I'm no longer with the team and it's fun to share that a new day is dawning at Arrowhead. Scott Pioli will quickly move to clean out the front office and hire a new coach.

The only info I have on the new coach is it will not be Kirk Ferentz from the Iowa Hawkeyes. Kirk coaches his son at Iowa and does not want to leave until his son graduates.

Mike Shanahan has contacted Pioli, but I don't know any info beyond that.

TheReverend
01-22-2009, 09:29 AM
Please, please, please, please let news come out that you're going to Dallas...............

Taco John
01-22-2009, 09:29 AM
Rumors are flying fast and furious. I know that there is some travishamockery going on here too.

I don't believe any of this until I hear it from an official source.

theAPAOps5
01-22-2009, 09:29 AM
If Shanny ends up in KC I will be bummed and very upset with our franchise. In fact, I'm bummed right now just thinking it is a real possibility. I didn't question the firing but if he ends up in KC... Pat Bowlen made the biggest mistake in the history of Broncos football. We're talking Al Davis type mistake here!

You're joking right?

Taco John
01-22-2009, 09:30 AM
You're joking right?


Hell no he's not. It would be a HUGE blunder for Pat to fire Mike, and end up paying for him to coach the Chiefs. Pat would be the laughingstock of the NFL.

Hercules Rockefeller
01-22-2009, 09:31 AM
Personally, I think Herm Edwards counts. And even then, the fine is only $200,000 if it doesn't. But it would be easy for them to appeal and win considering that they are firing a black head coach, and there aren't any black head coaches who are anywhere close to being as qualified as Mike is right now.

You cannont "re-interview" a current minority head coach in order to get around the Rooney Rule. Doubt the league gives the same penalty this time around either, it'll be worse.

Kaylore
01-22-2009, 09:31 AM
I know that there is some travishamockery going on here too.

I don't believe any of this until I hear it from an official source.

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2634771/2/istockphoto_2634771_hitting_a_nail_on_the_head.jpg

TheReverend
01-22-2009, 09:33 AM
Rumors are flying fast and furious. I know that there is some travishamockery going on here too.

I don't believe any of this until I hear it from an official source.

It seems a little "vengeful" if he and Pat are such "friends"

theAPAOps5
01-22-2009, 09:33 AM
Hell no he's not. It would be a HUGE blunder for Pat to fire Mike, and end up paying for him to coach the Chiefs. Pat would be the laughingstock of the NFL.

No he wouldn't especially if McD proves to be good. If McD thuds then I can agree. Buts he won't be the laughing stock, ok he will have some egg on his face but McD gets this team to playoff winning caliber it won't look as bad.

rad
01-22-2009, 09:33 AM
Personally, I think Herm Edwards counts. And even then, the fine is only $200,000 if it doesn't. But it would be easy for them to appeal and win considering that they are firing a black head coach, and there aren't any black head coaches who are anywhere close to being as qualified as Mike is right now.

It doesn't count.

Thursday, January 22 2009
ADAM SCHEFTER
Rooney Rule still in play for Chiefs
Posted: Adam Schefter | Adam Schefter | Tags: Kansas City Chiefs, Herm Edwards, Scott Pioli

It hasnít come up, and it might not. But if it should, hereís the answer to a question that some have posed since the Kansas City Chiefs hired general manager Scott Pioli on Wednesday.

Pioliís meetings with Chiefs coach Herm Edwards donít meet the requirements of the Rooney Rule, which mandates that NFL teams interview at least one minority head-coaching candidate.

The interpretation of the Rooney Rule is that teams canít meet with an incumbent minority for the purpose of creating a vacancy and claim that they have followed the rule. The rule isnít followed unless a legitimate minority candidate is interviewed.

Itís permissible for Pioli to fire Edwards, but it isnít permissible for him to hire, say, Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz without first interviewing at least one minority head-coaching candidate.

Pioli said Wednesday that he plans to meet with Edwards before making any decisions about whom the Chiefsí head coach will be. If Pioli retains Edwards, this point is moot. But if Pioli moves in another direction, he and the Chiefs still must comply with the Rooney Rule.
Thursday, January 22 2009

Popps
01-22-2009, 09:33 AM
Here it is... Per Klis:



Hey, Mike. Does ANY contract with another NFL team negate the Broncos' obligation to Mike Shanahan? Thanks!
-- Brad C., Anchorage, Alaska Brad - It's more appropriate to use the word "offset" than "negate." Bowlen essentially owes Shanahan $7 million for each of the next three years. Let's say, Shanahan is hired by the Cleveland Browns, who give him a $4 million-a-year contract. In this situation, Bowlen would still have to pay Shanahan the difference, or $3 million a year. Better believe Bowlen's preference is for Shanahan to be coaching in 2009.

Klis's most recent mailbag:
http://www.denverpost.com/broncosmailbag


So, big deal. Bowlen owes Shanahan a few million a year.

Do you know how many turds we're still paying millions a year? Travis ****ing henry is probably still on the payroll. That's just how it goes in the NFL.

Bowlen made a statement with this move. He's in the business of winning. If he simply wanted money, he'd probably be in a different business.

Shanahan was let go because he couldn't do his job.

bronco militia
01-22-2009, 09:34 AM
This is a doctored version of the infamous Rocky Alden email (Pre-Pioli):

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5367560&postcount=1352


LMFAO! thanks for the heads up

TheReverend
01-22-2009, 09:36 AM
So, big deal. Bowlen owes Shanahan a few million a year.

Do you know how many turds we're still paying millions a year? Travis ****ing henry is probably still on the payroll. That's just how it goes in the NFL.

Bowlen made a statement with this move. He's in the business of winning. If he simply wanted money, he'd probably be in a different business.

Shanahan was let go because he couldn't do his job.

While I agree that he does want to win, the bolded statement is kinda silly. You'd be hard pressed to find an industry that has increased in value at HALF the rate of an NFL franchise since Bowlen took over.

bronco militia
01-22-2009, 09:37 AM
is it too late to say "I think the rumors are bogus"?

those ****ers need to lose a few more points...;D

theAPAOps5
01-22-2009, 09:39 AM
It seems a little "vengeful" if he and Pat are such "friends"

Especially when Bowlen said in his speech saying get the hell out don't go to KC!

I actually find it kind of humorous.

Taco John
01-22-2009, 09:39 AM
It seems a little "vengeful" if he and Pat are such "friends"



There's more than meets the eye here.

But even taking any designs of vengance out of it, KC is an hour flight away from Mike's brilliant home in Denver. He can get a lot of work done on a flight like that, and still make it home for Mash.

theAPAOps5
01-22-2009, 09:42 AM
The only thing that makes me go hmmmm is Guenther going to another team. If Shanny is the next coach he wouldn't have left. Shanahan has always wanted Guenther as his DC.

Taco John
01-22-2009, 09:42 AM
So, big deal. Bowlen owes Shanahan a few million a year.

Do you know how many turds we're still paying millions a year? Travis ****ing henry is probably still on the payroll. That's just how it goes in the NFL.

Bowlen made a statement with this move. He's in the business of winning. If he simply wanted money, he'd probably be in a different business.

Shanahan was let go because he couldn't do his job.



Do you get paid to lick Pat Bowlen's boots or something, no matter how muddy they are?

Hahahaha! Yeah! "Big deal! So what if Pat Bowlen is paying Mike Shanahan to make the Chiefs respectable again. Who cares? Pat Bowlen is in the business of winning!"

What a flack!

bronco militia
01-22-2009, 09:42 AM
SCHEFTER: SHANAHAN WON’T LAND IN KANSAS CITY
Posted by Mike Florio on January 22, 2009, 12:25 p.m. EST
In response to rapidly-spreading rumors (we might have had something to do with that) regarding the possibility of a former Broncos and Raiders coach landing with their common rivals in Kansas City, Adam Schefter of NFLN says that there’s no truth whatsoever to the reports/rumors/rumblings/scuttlebutt that Mike Shanahan will be the next coach of the Chiefs.

Per Schefter, the Chiefs and Shanahan have had no contact as of mid-day Thursday.

Of course, it doesn’t mean that there won’t be contact if/when Herm Edwards is fired. We assume that the Chiefs are spending more time deciding whether to keep Herm than they are lining up his potential replacement.

Especially in light of the Rooney Rule.

Unless Shanahan’s spray tan falls within the scope of the Soul Man exception, he can’t be hired until after Edwards is fired and at least one minority candidate is interviewed.

ND Bronco Fan
01-22-2009, 09:43 AM
Can someone tell me what Florio's deal is with such hatred for the Broncos and Shanahan. It is so blatant to me that he will just dig and dig any chance he gets to talk about either in a negative light he jumps at the chance.

bronco militia
01-22-2009, 09:44 AM
the Shyster puts the brakes on this travishamockery...

congrats Garcia ;D

TheReverend
01-22-2009, 09:44 AM
There's more than meets the eye here.

But even taking any designs of vengance out of it, KC is an hour flight away from Mike's brilliant home in Denver. He can get a lot of work done on a flight like that, and still make it home for Mash.

I'm tellin ya, I'm pretty sure Pat's new year began with walking in on Mike buried in Annabelle.

Taco John
01-22-2009, 09:45 AM
SCHEFTER: SHANAHAN WONíT LAND IN KANSAS CITY
Posted by Mike Florio on January 22, 2009, 12:25 p.m. EST
In response to rapidly-spreading rumors (we might have had something to do with that) regarding the possibility of a former Broncos and Raiders coach landing with their common rivals in Kansas City, Adam Schefter of NFLN says that thereís no truth whatsoever to the reports/rumors/rumblings/scuttlebutt that Mike Shanahan will be the next coach of the Chiefs.

Per Schefter, the Chiefs and Shanahan have had no contact as of mid-day Thursday.

Of course, it doesnít mean that there wonít be contact if/when Herm Edwards is fired. We assume that the Chiefs are spending more time deciding whether to keep Herm than they are lining up his potential replacement.

Especially in light of the Rooney Rule.

Unless Shanahanís spray tan falls within the scope of the Soul Man exception, he canít be hired until after Edwards is fired and at least one minority candidate is interviewed.



Thank God.

Nothing to see here.

*whew*

bronco militia
01-22-2009, 09:45 AM
I'm tellin ya, I'm pretty sure Pat's new year began with walking in on Mike buried in Annabelle.

bwahaha...awesome

theAPAOps5
01-22-2009, 09:45 AM
Wow that is the winner in travishamockery!

TheReverend
01-22-2009, 09:47 AM
Wow that is the winner in travishamockery!

True. That made me sweat.

Bowlen needs to change his underwear now.

Taco John
01-22-2009, 09:48 AM
Wow that is the winner in travishamockery!



Yep. The Travishamockery bar has been set pretty damn high. That was epic!

theAPAOps5
01-22-2009, 09:48 AM
If Shefter says it then its true. Shanahan has Schefter on speed dial for all things leaky.

bowtown
01-22-2009, 09:49 AM
SCHEFTER: SHANAHAN WONíT LAND IN KANSAS CITY
Posted by Mike Florio on January 22, 2009, 12:25 p.m. EST
In response to rapidly-spreading rumors (we might have had something to do with that) regarding the possibility of a former Broncos and Raiders coach landing with their common rivals in Kansas City, Adam Schefter of NFLN says that thereís no truth whatsoever to the reports/rumors/rumblings/scuttlebutt that Mike Shanahan will be the next coach of the Chiefs.

Per Schefter, the Chiefs and Shanahan have had no contact as of mid-day Thursday.

Of course, it doesnít mean that there wonít be contact if/when Herm Edwards is fired. We assume that the Chiefs are spending more time deciding whether to keep Herm than they are lining up his potential replacement.

Especially in light of the Rooney Rule.

Unless Shanahanís spray tan falls within the scope of the Soul Man exception, he canít be hired until after Edwards is fired and at least one minority candidate is interviewed.

But, but, 1 Mullethead Drive is a vault of secrecy. They've brought thousands of minority coaches in under under cloaks for interviews in the dead of night. No one can break their code or their plan. Ron Rivera had drinks with the entire team after curfew last Saturday.

The KC consipiracy theorists in this thread are truly amazing, and Bob proves he is as uninformed and worthless as ever. Priceless.

alanm
01-22-2009, 09:50 AM
that would probaly cost you guys draft picks you are full of crap they will have to pay the going price of head Coachs.
He was fired. It wouldn't cost the Chiefs anything. Other than a salary.

Kaylore
01-22-2009, 09:52 AM
SCHEFTER: SHANAHAN WONíT LAND IN KANSAS CITY
Posted by Mike Florio on January 22, 2009, 12:25 p.m. EST
In response to rapidly-spreading rumors (we might have had something to do with that) regarding the possibility of a former Broncos and Raiders coach landing with their common rivals in Kansas City, Adam Schefter of NFLN says that thereís no truth whatsoever to the reports/rumors/rumblings/scuttlebutt that Mike Shanahan will be the next coach of the Chiefs.

Per Schefter, the Chiefs and Shanahan have had no contact as of mid-day Thursday.

Of course, it doesnít mean that there wonít be contact if/when Herm Edwards is fired. We assume that the Chiefs are spending more time deciding whether to keep Herm than they are lining up his potential replacement.

Especially in light of the Rooney Rule.

Unless Shanahanís spray tan falls within the scope of the Soul Man exception, he canít be hired until after Edwards is fired and at least one minority candidate is interviewed.
Well at least Bob and SheepStud can go back to saying Shanahan is overrated.Ha!

theAPAOps5
01-22-2009, 09:54 AM
The best part about all this is KCDud getting his ass handed to him by Kaylor.

Bob's your Information Minister
01-22-2009, 09:54 AM
Haha. Look at you guys cling to Schefter's report. Hilarious.

TheReverend
01-22-2009, 09:55 AM
Haha. Look at you guys cling to Schefter's report. Hilarious.

Are you new here?

tsiguy96
01-22-2009, 09:55 AM
told you idiots not to freak out until something is official. but nooooo gotta go into absolute flip out mode, as is usual on orange mane anytime any sort of thing happens involving past or present or future broncos.

some of you need xanax, and a lot of it. had you paid any sort of attention to anything, youd know the chiefs had not interviewed a minority candidate and thus could not hire shanahan. the only people mentioning any sort of possibility said just that, its a possibility. so is shanahan to the raiders. its POSSIBLE, but not going to happen. understand?

that said, hopefully he does coach for the chiefs. it relieves most if not all cash owed to shanny and we get great drama twice a year from here on out, watching the chiefs put up good offensive numbers and horrible defense and special teams, shannys "trademark" if you will. id rather have mcdaniels, an unknown but obvious great offensive mind and has the ability to let the defense do its thing.

Kaylore
01-22-2009, 09:57 AM
Are you new here?

He must be retarded. Schefter is Shanahan's sounding board and is right about the AFC West 98% of the time.

theAPAOps5
01-22-2009, 09:57 AM
Haha. Look at you guys cling to Schefter's report. Hilarious.

It has nothing to do with Clinging. Schefter is the source for all things Shanahan.

bowtown
01-22-2009, 09:59 AM
Haha. Look at you guys cling to Schefter's report. Hilarious.

Hmmm... Adam Schfeter or War Taint Illustrated... Adam Schefter or Jiggles... Adam Schfter or "the readers" of PFT?

When it comes to Shanahan, Schefter knows all, when it comes to everything you know twinkies.

Congrats.

BroncoBuff
01-22-2009, 10:00 AM
Hmmm... Adam Schfeter or War Taint Illustrated... Adam Schefter or Jiggles... Adam Schfter or "the readers" of PFT?

When it comes to Shanahan, Schefter knows all, when it comes to everything you know twinkies.

Adam Schefter AND Cris Collinsworth ... two of the Top 10 NFL reporter/commentators anywhere.





See you in a month, Bob! :welcome:

Popcorn Sutton
01-22-2009, 10:01 AM
Haha. Look at you guys cling to Schefter's report. Hilarious.

Curious? How would you rate Schefter as a Bronco's/Shanahan source compared to your "source"?

Chiefs have not contacted Shanahan

Posted: January 22nd, 2009 | NFL.com Staff | Tags: Kansas City Chiefs, Mike Shanahan

Nearly a month after the season, the Chiefs still have not made a coaching change. Mike Shanahan still does not have a job.

Thus, in the past 24 hours, like a virus that has spread, some have concluded that Kansas City is pursuing Shanahan and he could be the Chiefs next head coach.

Time to squash that rumor. As of mid-day Thursday, the Chiefs and Shanahan have not had any contact. None. Zero. Zip. Nada.

And yet within the past hour, Iíve gotten a half-dozen calls and emails from various Kansas City and Denver media outlets, asking if there is any truth to the rumor that the Chiefs and Shanahan are talking.

No, there is not. There is no truth to the rumor. Chiefs officials are at the Senior Bowl and Shanahan just finished a morning run on the treadmill.

TheReverend
01-22-2009, 10:02 AM
He must be retarded. Schefter is Shanahan's sounding board and is right about the AFC West 98% of the time.

And right about Denver matters 100% of the time. Shanahan is a Denver matter.

Flex Gunmetal
01-22-2009, 10:04 AM
Haha. Look at you guys cling to Schefter's report. Hilarious.

What are you clinging to? Save a box of donuts.

BroncoBuff
01-22-2009, 10:07 AM
None. Zero. Zip. Nada.

Isn't there supposed to be a "zilch" in there somewhere? ???


Seriously though ... see you in a month, Bob. This time I advocate the mods shutter his account for a month. We can wait until Haley or whatever non-Mike new coach is formally announced, but I for one urge the mods to enforce this promise: I'll sign off the Mane for a month if Shanahan isn't the next head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs.

rad
01-22-2009, 10:09 AM
But, but, 1 Mullethead Drive is a vault of secrecy. They've brought thousands of minority coaches in under under cloaks for interviews in the dead of night. No one can break their code or their plan. Ron Rivera had drinks with the entire team after curfew last Saturday.

The KC consipiracy theorists in this thread are truly amazing, and Bob proves he is as uninformed and worthless as ever. Priceless.

OK, this is just stupid.

theAPAOps5
01-22-2009, 10:09 AM
Isn't there supposed to be a "zilch" in there somewhere? ???


Seriously though ... see you in a month, Bob. This time I advocate the mods shutter his account for a month. We can wait until Haley or whatever non-Mike new coach is formally announced, but I for one urge the mods to enforce this promise:

Yeah and Bob honoring a bet is a joke. Jiggles has zero integrity.

Bob's your Information Minister
01-22-2009, 10:11 AM
Seriously though ... see you in a month, Bob. This time I advocate the mods shutter his account for a month. We can wait until Haley or whatever non-Mike new coach is formally announced, but I for one urge the mods to enforce this promise:

Dude. Until the Chiefs hire a coach who is NOT named Mike Shanahan...YOU NEED TO SHUT THE **** UP!

You are jumping the gun. LOL

rad
01-22-2009, 10:11 AM
Isn't there supposed to be a "zilch" in there somewhere? ???


Seriously though ... see you in a month, Bob. This time I advocate the mods shutter his account for a month. We can wait until Haley or whatever non-Mike new coach is formally announced, but I for one urge the mods to enforce this promise:

But you forget that he's a professional welcher.

I mean, look at his title....

KCStud
01-22-2009, 10:12 AM
LOL

I will now destroy you with the search function


http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=2227520#post2227520






http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=2230062#post2230062


You have been owned, Sheepstud.:thumbs:

Wow I have you following me like a dog. Nice to see I have an admirer, though you always follow me. Is it love, hate, or simply the fact that you love reporting all my posts leaving multiple messages for me to laugh at?

I wanted Haley all along, not Ratty. I would be ok with his signing. Never homered him up at all. I stated what I stated all along. Ratty would be better in the coaching department than Herm, thus my examples. He would not be an upgrade to in the player personell department aka the draft. That's why I pointed out Pioli and his success.

BTW-I love how you picked my posts from before KC hired a GM and I didn't want Ratty primarily because the rumor was that he wanted full control in the GM and coaching positions like in Denver as opposed to him being the coach now with less power.

But continue to pick and choose pieces to try and fulfill your argument. If you keep on following me, I might have to start giving you a bone once and ahwile Ha!

azbroncfan
01-22-2009, 10:12 AM
Collinsworth is not credible whatsoever. He was just throwing out his opinion.

Collinsworth did call the Cardinals the worst team ever to make the playoffs if that means anything.

TheReverend
01-22-2009, 10:13 AM
Wow I have you following me like a dog. Nice to see I have an admirer, though you always follow me. Is it love, hate, or simply the fact that you love reporting all my posts leaving multiple messages for me to laugh at?

I wanted Haley all along, not Ratty. I would be ok with his signing. Never homered him up at all. I stated what I stated all along. Ratty would be better in the coaching department than Herm, thus my examples. He would not be an upgrade to in the player personell department aka the draft. That's why I pointed out Pioli and his success.

BTW-I love how you picked my posts from before KC hired a GM and I didn't want Ratty primarily because the rumor was that he wanted full control in the GM and coaching positions like in Denver as opposed to him being the coach now with less power.

But continue to pick and choose pieces to try and fulfill your argument. If you keep on following me, I might have to start giving you a bone once and ahwile Ha!

Really?

You took that long to come up with a response to deflect humiliation and that's the best you could come up with?

TheReverend
01-22-2009, 10:13 AM
Collinsworth did call the Cardinals the worst team ever to make the playoffs if that means anything.

Collinsworth is a hack

bronco militia
01-22-2009, 10:14 AM
Wow I have you following me like a dog. Nice to see I have an admirer, though you always follow me. Is it love, hate, or simply the fact that you love reporting all my posts leaving multiple messages for me to laugh at?

!


I'm pretty sure it's the SEARCH function

:spit:

24champ
01-22-2009, 10:14 AM
Apparently they said on the Colorado News that Ratty is close to signing with KC.

I have been critical of Ratty for 10 years, but his role will be different in KC.

Ratty couldn't draft defensive players. That was his big knock. He was a bad GM, but a very good coach.

KC needs a good coach. Someone who can COACH the players. Pioli has proven he can find great players on both sides of the ball.

KC needs a coach who can formulate a gameplan, make adjustments, and finish teams off. Herm can't do that and it showed.

We lost 3 games this year that we should have won. SD twice and TB when we were beating them by 11 at halftime. Should have been 31 to 6 at half.

I would love to have Ratty as long as KC gets a good DC to run the defense. Rumors are saying Crennel and McDermot are the candidates.

Here's the article on Shanahan

http://www.nbcactionnews.com/sports/story/Mike-Shanahan-Could-be-Next-Chiefs-Head-Coach/EjWyJUYPT0q-lAAApuqgXw.cspx


Ha!


I'm telling you guys the cheap fans are fabricating this crap so they can believe it.



Also I am not surprised KCSHEEPSTUD is now on board to see Shanny in condiment colors. He was adamnant about Shanny not being the coach, and now here we see him "love to see ratty" comments.Ha!

Like I said sheepstud, anyone could be the coach and you'd be happy with it. Keep drinking the kool-aid you tool.

Hercules Rockefeller
01-22-2009, 10:15 AM
Dude. Until the Chiefs hire a coach who is NOT named Mike Shanahan...YOU NEED TO SHUT THE **** UP!

You are jumping the gun. LOL

This is classic.

Herm is still the coach of the Chiefs
Boba Fett gets a little chubby over internet rumors of MS going to KC for a still non-existant opening
Adam Schefter, an impeccable source when it comes to MS, says he's not been contacted yet about a non-existant opening
Boba tells people that THEY are the ones jumping the gun when they say MS will not coach in KC next year

Live up to your bet for once fatboy

BroncoBuff
01-22-2009, 10:15 AM
Yeah and Bob honoring a bet is a joke. Jiggles has zero integrity.


The weird part is, I think most of us (me anyway) would actually love to see Shanahan in KC. It would be great drama.

If this were anyone but Bob, this would be very dramatic moment, a very interesting thread. Any of the majority of posters here - the reliable and respected people - laying themselves on the line and promising a month off if such an enormous and exlusive scoop failed, would be tantalizing and provocative. But with Bob's history, it's just annoying and sad.

Bob ... have you ever explained why the Rooney Rule does not apply? I believe it does not apply if you promote from within, but any outside HC hire must be preceded by a minority interview. That's just fact.

TheReverend
01-22-2009, 10:18 AM
Statement:

I would love to have Ratty as long as KC gets a good DC to run the defense. Rumors are saying Crennel and McDermot are the candidates.

Spin:

I wanted Haley all along, not Ratty. I would be ok with his signing. Never homered him up at all. I stated what I stated all along.

BroncoBuff
01-22-2009, 10:18 AM
Dude. Until the Chiefs hire a coach who is NOT named Mike Shanahan...YOU NEED TO SHUT THE **** UP!

You are jumping the gun. LOL

Okay, fair enough ... I am jumping the gun. Super Bowl's in 10 days ... my guess is they'll announce Haley on Tuesday or Wednesday after, so two weeks from today we'll all know. I can wait.

Until then, please answer - with specificity - why the Rooney Rule does not apply.

bowtown
01-22-2009, 10:20 AM
OK, this is just stupid.

No what's stupid is people actually believeing that the Chiefs are conductiong Head Coach interviews behind closed doors without anyone knowing anything about it. This whole thing wasn't even a rumor, it was a cloak and dagger kiddy fantasy, that's why Bob and friends got so wrapped up in it.

TheReverend
01-22-2009, 10:21 AM
The weird part is, I think most of us (me anyway) would actually love to see Shanahan in KC. It would be great drama.

If this were anyone but Bob, this would be very dramatic moment, a very interesting thread. Any of the majority of posters here - the reliable and respected people - laying themselves on the line and promising a month off if such an enormous and exlusive scoop failed, would be tantalizing and provocative. But with Bob's history, it's just annoying and sad.

Bob ... have you ever explained why the Rooney Rule does not apply? I believe it does not apply if you promote from within, but any outside HC hire must be preceded by a minority interview. That's just fact.

It would be great drama... but I'd prefer the great drama where we could be seeing him go on to success for an NFC team and wishing him well, and playing against his team in the Superbowl in a couple years.

Not the Count of Monte Cristo style being Shanahan in KC.

theAPAOps5
01-22-2009, 10:21 AM
KCDud just digging that hole deeper and deeper. Someone should explain forumns to him, search works really fast.

24champ
01-22-2009, 10:23 AM
LOL

I will now destroy you with the search function


http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=2227520#post2227520






http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?p=2230062#post2230062

You have been owned, Sheepstud.:thumbs:


http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/12/owned_033.jpg