The best president ever....Lincoln? NOPE FDR? Wrong again! GWB!

[PaintballCLE]

So go ahead and crucify me before you even read this......

Say what you will about the economy (still Clinton's fault), and the "Bush-isms" But GWB will go down as being the first president to fight terror or "terrrr" as he would say.

First.....many of you might disagree......bu people will remmeber 9/11 far more than the bad economy.

Sure predatory lending happened under the Clinton years.....and sure the economy was artificially way over in flated during the Clinton years, and you can ignore that clintons economy bottomed out BEFORE GWB took office (that the tech stocks), and the truck.suv craze that ignited fuel consuption and global wamring (cough: still a bunch of BS).......you can ignore all of that and blame it on GWB..........it doesn't matter because ones things for sure.....

The USA is a safer place today that it was when GWB took over.

One can even argue that 9/11 took place 9 or so months after GWB took office...........but again it was because of years of neglect by Clinton.....who figured if you swept it under the rug, it would go away.

and please the 9/11 conspiracy people....save it for another thread.

I love how people were 100% for the war after 9/11 but after it became popular to hate it, they did.

Or I love how people sit there and b**** about having to wait in security at the airport...........and then refuse to get on a plane because one of the passengers has a turbin on his head.

I love how people wear NYFD or NYPD t-shirts and hats.........then criticize the war to kill these ****ers.

But the one thing that made GWb a great president is that he stood up for what he beleived in and didn't cave to unpopular opinion. To that we can be grateful. Without him and his regime you hate so much, imagine how many buildings could be piles of rubble right now and how many american lives would have been lost bot currently and in the future if he didn't do anything about it for the last 8 years.

So here is a salute to the man that brought national security back to being the most important thing an American can have.
And to all the GWb haters.....here is something for you!
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u144/pntballkrm/bush_finger_flip.jpg

[PaintballCLE]

obviously this is excluding nixon..........cause he is still my favorite!

[jhat01]

I kinda skimmed over that, but I didn't see anything about Iraq. While I'm glad we haven't had any attacks here, what about the brave souls lost in Iraq? And by Iraq I mean the lies, and the deceit

[mosca]

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[PaintballCLE]

I kinda skimmed over that, but I didn't see anything about Iraq. While I'm glad we haven't had any attacks here, what about the brave souls lost in Iraq?

true........lives lost are never a good thing...........but 4000 in an hour compared to 4000 over 8 years.........

[jhat01]

true........lives lost are never a good thing...........but 4000 in an hour compared to 4000 over 8 years.........

dude...

I'm not going to lose my mind over that post but that doesn't even make sense.

[TheDave]

dortoH is much better at this fishing thing...

[PaintballCLE]

dortoH is much better at this fishing thing...

LOL nothing to do with fishing......hell i don't even like to fish....(dont have the patience)

[watermock]

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[PaintballCLE]

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[theAPAOps5]

dortoH is much better at this fishing thing...

No the sad thing is this guy believes what crap he just posted. GWB will go down as the worst president in the history of the US. He is an embarrassment to the once proud republican party. He single handedly killed the republicans and what they stood for. And would almost say he deserves to be charged with treason.

IBOAB is on the same level with StormonThePlains who said this disgrace to our country and its founders was his hero. Its disgusting really. The sad thing is IBOAB is good people but yet he regurgitates this tripe. For someone to call the man who destroyed our country and what it stood for a hero just astounds me.

[PaintballCLE]

No the sad thing is this guy believes what crap he just posted. GWB will go down as the worst president in the history of the US. He is an embarrassment to the once proud republican party. He single handedly killed the republicans and what they stood for. And would almost say he deserves to be charged with treason.

IBOAB is on the same level with StormonThePlains who said this disgrace to our country and its founders was his hero. Its disgusting really. The sad thing is IBOAB is good people but yet he regurgitates this tripe. For someone to call the man who destroyed our country and what it stood for a hero just astounds me.


Dude...........you broke my neg rep cherry(yes i know hard to beleive it took this long)........congrats

So i dont EVER bring up rep......because its meant to be private...........but how the heck am i a racist from what i posted?

[spdirty]

couldve done something with the borders. And the spending was out of control. And the GOP got their clocks cleaned in both the house and senate under his watch.

[theAPAOps5]

couldve done something with the borders. And the spending was out of control. And the GOP got their clocks cleaned in both the house and senate under his watch.

Exactly, I was a die hard Republican. They once stood for what America stood for. Then Bush became the worst kind. Under his watch our borders failed. Our foreign policy crumbled. The republican party crumbled and our economy failed. He was a disaster.

[theAPAOps5]

Dude...........you broke my neg rep cherry(yes i know hard to beleive it took this long)........congrats

So i dont EVER bring up rep......because its meant to be private...........but how the heck am i a racist from what i posted?

You posted a gay ass picture that insinuated our president was pals with our biggest enemy. You followed the pathetic extreme right crap that insinuates he is a Muslin terrorist. Its disgusting and its racist. I expected better than that from you.

[spdirty]

Exactly, I was a die hard Republican. They once stood for what America stood for. Then Bush became the worst kind. Under his watch our borders failed. Our foreign policy crumbled. The republican party crumbled and our economy failed. He was a disaster.

well conservatism still does stand for what America stands for. And Bush was/is not a conservative. GOP needs to get back to that, and fight for what they believed in before they got their cushy lil jobs.

[Spider]

I will tell you guys this , i will take every load I can get to the Mexican boarder , i will report on what I see everytime . no bias

[spdirty]

I will tell you guys this , i will take every load I can get to the Mexican boarder , i will report on what I see everytime . no bias

just dont let your temper get the best of you when your down there. That sounds like a pretty frickin dangerous place to be.

[theAPAOps5]

just dont let your temper get the best of you when your down there. That sounds like a pretty frickin dangerous place to be.

Word the cartels are a nasty bunch down there since the Mexican Goverment is too corrupt to do anything. Its getting down right nasty across the border. Deeper in Mexico it isn't but closer to the states its scary.

[enjolras]

You're a Broncos fan, so you can't possibly be such an idiot.

Thus, I'll assume your just trolling.

[Hogan11]

Gotta lay off the Fox News Bleed.

[baja]

I will tell you guys this , i will take every load I can get to the Mexican boarder , i will report on what I see everytime . no bias

You watch you back in the border towns, Lota bad Jose's there.

[footstepsfrom#27]

For the love of Pete don't embarass yourself any further.

[Spider]

just dont let your temper get the best of you when your down there. That sounds like a pretty frickin dangerous place to be.

;D they have always been bad , specially for unguided tourist .......
You watch you back in the border towns, Lota bad Jose's there.
;D they have always been there , they are just more bold now ..... I expect some trouble , so does the guy that owns this loader , he wants me ot call right away after leaving Hatch , so he can have his driver meet me right away ... but i got a few tricks up my sleeves ;D

[baja]

;D they have always been bad , specially for unguided tourist .......

;D they have always been there , they are just more bold now ..... I expect some trouble , so does the guy that owns this loader , he wants me ot call right away after leaving Hatch , so he can have his driver meet me right away ... but i got a few tricks up my sleeves ;D

Spider the climate there has changed it's no place to get tough anymore. Trust me on this one...

[spdirty]

Spider the climate there has changed it's no place to get tough anymore. Trust me on this one...

how is cabo right now?

[Rohirrim]

It's a shame that changing presidents doesn't automatically clear out all the morons, and that the 22% take such pride in their ignorance that they feel compelled to try and shout down the 78% that think they're fools. There will be land opening up down in Crawford, Texas soon. Move there, where you can bask in the proximity of your idiot king.

Before you Rightards go off rewriting the history of Dubya (like you tried with Nixon) I suggest you do an in-depth study into the day by day activities of George Bush for the eight months leading up to 911 - the worst attack on American soil in history. You want to pretend he did good since 911 (even though he used 911 to lie us into attacking the wrong country) but you refuse to face the fact that his stupidity and arrogance allowed 911 to happen in the first place.

[baja]

how is cabo right now?

Nothing like the war torn drug centers of Mexico.

Safer than any larger American city but as the economy worsens here crime will go up and the police are not going to be able to deal with it. It could get pretty bad here if tourism continues to fall off.

[rastaman]

well conservatism still does stand for what America stands for. And Bush was/is not a conservative. GOP needs to get back to that, and fight for what they believed in before they got their cushy lil jobs.

America has been moving away from conservative ideals since 2006! The voting demographics have changed in this country. When Reagan won in 81, you can say America was a conservative nation. However, 2008 proved that conservative voting numbers could not show up mass to off set the number of democrat voters that showed up. Hence, Obama beat McCain by over 9 million votes!!!!

Conservatives lost seats in the Congress in 2006 and 2008 and 5 conservatives Senators will not run for re-election btwn 2010 and 2012. That doesn't sound like those Repub. senators think conservatism is any longer a viable ideology.

The GOP will need to change their platform and become more inclusive and diversified with people of color. No longer can the Republican party win the WH with 93% of the White vote, 5% of the Hispanic vote, and 3% of the black vote.

[rastaman]

It's a shame that changing presidents doesn't automatically clear out all the morons, and that the 22% take such pride in their ignorance that they feel compelled to try and shout down the 78% that think they're fools. There will be land opening up down in Crawford, Texas soon. Move there, where you can bask in the proximity of your idiot king.

Before you Rightards go off rewriting the history of Dubya (like you tried with Nixon) I suggest you do an in-depth study into the day by day activities of George Bush for the eight months leading up to 911 - the worst attack on American soil in history. You want to pretend he did good since 911 (even though he used 911 to lie us into attacking the wrong country) but you refuse to face the fact that his stupidity and arrogance allowed 911 to happen in the first place.

Well stated.

[Hotrod]

dortoH is much better at this fishing thing...

Thank you..........I think

[Hotrod]

Exactly, I was a die hard Republican. They once stood for what America stood for. Then Bush became the worst kind. Under his watch our borders failed. Our foreign policy crumbled. The republican party crumbled and our economy failed. He was a disaster.

I hate being serious but for the most part I agree with everything you said.

[gunns]

So go ahead and crucify me before you even read this......

Say what you will about the economy (still Clinton's fault), and the "Bush-isms" But GWB will go down as being the first president to fight terror or "terrrr" as he would say.

First.....many of you might disagree......bu people will remmeber 9/11 far more than the bad economy.

Sure predatory lending happened under the Clinton years.....and sure the economy was artificially way over in flated during the Clinton years, and you can ignore that clintons economy bottomed out BEFORE GWB took office (that the tech stocks), and the truck.suv craze that ignited fuel consuption and global wamring (cough: still a bunch of BS).......you can ignore all of that and blame it on GWB..........it doesn't matter because ones things for sure.....

The USA is a safer place today that it was when GWB took over.

One can even argue that 9/11 took place 9 or so months after GWB took office...........but again it was because of years of neglect by Clinton.....who figured if you swept it under the rug, it would go away.

and please the 9/11 conspiracy people....save it for another thread.

I love how people were 100% for the war after 9/11 but after it became popular to hate it, they did.

Or I love how people sit there and b**** about having to wait in security at the airport...........and then refuse to get on a plane because one of the passengers has a turbin on his head.

I love how people wear NYFD or NYPD t-shirts and hats.........then criticize the war to kill these ****ers.

But the one thing that made GWb a great president is that he stood up for what he beleived in and didn't cave to unpopular opinion. To that we can be grateful. Without him and his regime you hate so much, imagine how many buildings could be piles of rubble right now and how many american lives would have been lost bot currently and in the future if he didn't do anything about it for the last 8 years.

So here is a salute to the man that brought national security back to being the most important thing an American can have.
And to all the GWb haters.....here is something for you!
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u144/pntballkrm/bush_finger_flip.jpg

Why would I crucify you? I give leeway to the retarded.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

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[orinjkrush]

Bush wasn't smart enough to be duplicitious.
he did what he thought was right.

he just needed to shoot Cheyney.

[Bronco Bob]

You posted a gay ass picture that insinuated our president was pals with our biggest enemy. You followed the pathetic extreme right crap that insinuates he is a Muslin terrorist. Its disgusting and its racist. I expected better than that from you.

Why would you expect better from him?

[spdirty]

http://www.bartcop.com/nywt-kiss-w-goodbye.jpg

:oyvey: yep. Thats the New York Times all right.

[spdirty]

America has been moving away from conservative ideals since 2006! The voting demographics have changed in this country. When Reagan won in 81, you can say America was a conservative nation. However, 2008 proved that conservative voting numbers could not show up mass to off set the number of democrat voters that showed up. Hence, Obama beat McCain by over 9 million votes!!!!

Conservatives lost seats in the Congress in 2006 and 2008 and 5 conservatives Senators will not run for re-election btwn 2010 and 2012. That doesn't sound like those Repub. senators think conservatism is any longer a viable ideology.

The GOP will need to change their platform and become more inclusive and diversified with people of color. No longer can the Republican party win the WH with 93% of the White vote, 5% of the Hispanic vote, and 3% of the black vote.

keep fooling yourself, while ignoring the fact that elected republicans almost completely abandoned their principles as well as scandalous activity prior to '06. Then as an encore they nominated a checkpants miquetoasty republican to succeed a pretty liberal republican.

Remember, 2002 and 2004 did not happen that long ago. And a large portion of Americans did not just say "hey, think I will do a complete switch and be a liberal now." If you actually think that then you are delusional, but even if this scenario did play out, wtf makes you think this portion of voters won't switch back next election? It was more a "we elected the ****ers to do this this and this, they didn't do it, so the hell with em. Im either gonna vote the other guy or not vote."

Obama and the new congress better govern from the center rather than be leftist idealogues or Nancy and Harry will lost seats in a couple years and The One will be a 1 term president.

[spdirty]

As far as Bush's place in history, only time will tell. Probably take at least 10 years before we start to get a clear picture of what they did, good and bad.

[TailgateNut]

As far as Bush's place in history, only time will tell. Probably take at least 10 years before we start to get a clear picture of what they did, good and bad.


I didn't take me 10 years to figure out how badly Bush was ****ing up everything he laid his hands on.

[spdirty]

I didn't take me 10 years to figure out how badly Bush was ****ing up everything he laid his hands on.
And what if we get attacked in a year?

[TailgateNut]

And what if we get attacked in a year?

Then we deal with it. Bush didn't do squat to prevent the attack on 9-11, he just sat there dumbfounded as always as the reports and warnings were passed on to him. Then he talked **** and used the attacks to further his pre-determined plan to attack a nation which had nothing to do with 9-11.

I am confident Obama will listen to advisors and intelligence community information, and, in turn, respond to that information, in contrast to MR. Dumbfounded.

[tsiguy96]

this post is a joke right?

you guys really understand why we were attacked right? it was for the very same policies that bush instituted x10. did they attack us because we are free and happy, and they just wanted to spoil the party? or did they attack us because they want to be left to run their country how they choose without our interference, and we decided wed tell them what to do, especially since they have all the oil?

this post is just stupid, its hard to understand how anyone can say what we are doing is right when its only killing the economy of this country. everyone blames obama for being a democrat and democrats spend money, it will be all but impossible for him to spend 1/2 of what bush spent on a war that did nothing to improve the national security of this country. to bankrupt a country to settle a grudge between your dad and a country is stupid, and bush did it.

now that every middle eastern terrorist network truly has a reason to hate america, civil liberties are all but gone and the economy is absolute ****, we should call GWB the best ever?

[gyldenlove]

Dick Cheney will go down in history as the worst president of the Unitated States.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

this post is a joke right?

you guys really understand why we were attacked right? it was for the very same policies that bush instituted x10. did they attack us because we are free and happy, and they just wanted to spoil the party? or did they attack us because they want to be left to run their country how they choose without our interference, and we decided wed tell them what to do, especially since they have all the oil?

this post is just stupid, its hard to understand how anyone can say what we are doing is right when its only killing the economy of this country. everyone blames obama for being a democrat and democrats spend money, it will be all but impossible for him to spend 1/2 of what bush spent on a war that did nothing to improve the national security of this country. to bankrupt a country to settle a grudge between your dad and a country is stupid, and bush did it.

now that every middle eastern terrorist network truly has a reason to hate america, civil liberties are all but gone and the economy is absolute ****, we should call GWB the best ever?

Great post - spot on. :thumbsup:

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[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

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[broncofan7]

what was the context of the 'Bush giving the bird ' picture? Was that a photoshop?

[NUB]

Ah, the valor of ignorance!

[gunns]

And what if we get attacked in a year?

It's something that wouldn't surprise me, if someone attacked us again on American soil. Wouldn't have surprised me if it happened while Bush was still in office. No one can truly stop them. And since it didn't happen again after 1993 under Clinton, yet you all have found a way to blame him for 2001, I guess we'll just blame Bush if it happens in a year. ;D

[PaintballCLE]

It's something that wouldn't surprise me, if someone attacked us again on American soil. Wouldn't have surprised me if it happened while Bush was still in office. No one can truly stop them. And since it didn't happen again after 1993 under Clinton, yet you all have found a way to blame him for 2001, I guess we'll just blame Bush if it happens in a year. ;D

if it happens in less than a year, then yes I would blame Bush.....fair is fair

[PaintballCLE]

what was the context of the 'Bush giving the bird ' picture? Was that a photoshop?

I am assuming so........i just found it on google images

[baja]

if it happens in less than a year, then yes I would blame Bush.....fair is fair

So what's the cut off date:)

[spdirty]

So what's the cut off date:)

September 11. On or after that date, its on The One.

[PaintballCLE]

So what's the cut off date:)

till detroit wins a game :~ohyah!:

[NUB]

if it happens in less than a year, then yes I would blame Bush.....fair is fair

That would be illogical.

Clinton took terrorism seriously enough to proactively go after it (subs in the Persian gulf, cruise missile strikes on camps, etc.); not enough, obviously, as he bailed due to the political pressure that comes with blow jobs. Bush, in large part, paid no heed to any warnings (in fact going on a month-long vacation as some of the strongest terror reports were coming in). Read the books of those around him; the lack of respect towards the threat is appalling. If we get hit and Obama had the same apathy, which I doubt in a post-9/11 world, he'd deserve all the blame he'd get. But I doubt Obama will get a report saying bin Laden is planning to hijack planes and use them as weapons and then respond by going on vacation.


There were more than 40 intelligence articles in the PDBs from January 20 to September 10, 2001, that related to Bin Ladin. The PDB is considered highly sensitive and is distributed to only a handful of high-level officials...

Post-9/11 narrative was that they didn't "see it coming".

Why the Bush admin. gets a total mulligan here, much less shifting the blame unto a previous presidency that at times was criticized for using too much force in targeting terrorism, is beyond me.

[Crushaholic]

till detroit wins a game :~ohyah!:

Some people on this board would blame Bush until the Chiefs go to another Super Bowl...:rofl:

[enjolras]

And what if we get attacked in a year?

This problem is bigger than Bush (although I would argue that he has done everything possible to exacerbate it). We we're attacked in 1993, and again in 2001. Clinton had an attack early in his term and did not experience another. Just as Bush did.

The difference being that after 9/11 we had the political capital here and abroad to really begin to begin to effectively combat terrorism. That was completely squandered.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Clinton took terrorism seriously enough to proactively go after it (subs in the Persian gulf, cruise missile strikes on camps, etc.); not enough, obviously, as he bailed due to the political pressure that comes with blow jobs.

To say nothing of the fact that the House Repukes shot down almost every last CT measure Clinton wanted (thanks to pressure from their meal tickets in the airline and banking industries and the NRA, etc.)

Ironically, Bush implemented the same airport security measures Clinton proposed (and the House repigs blocked) after 9/11 - measures that probably would have prevented the attacks.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Dick Cheney will go down in history as the worst president of the Unitated States.

:yep:

I was driving through Orange County today and I saw some dipsh*t with a Bush/Cheney sticker on the back of his van.

It was like he was engaging in the last great act of defiance or something, e.g., "The Democrats may have taken back the WH and both chambers, and my party totally screwed the pooch, but I reserve the right to be a willfully ignorant bozo." :laugh:

[TailgateNut]

if it happens in less than a year, then yes I would blame Bush.....fair is fair

That covers Bushs' 8 months in office as the intelligence was handed to him about the planned 9-11 scenarios. How convenient.:spit:

[cutthemdown]

Unless we got attacked because of weakness caused by an Obama policy I don't see how he could be blamed.

The President only so powerful it isn't a harrison ford movie ya know?

I do worry about the prisoners we will be letting go, and ones Bush already let go. I just read one guy who was at Gitmo, captured after tora bora I think, was released to Saudi Arabia, and has now escaped that country and is number 2 in charge of AlQueda in Yemen.

I would only blame Obama if he did something that made us easy to attack. Any major attack would be planned so far in advance most likely would overlap.

Obama doesn't seem to talk soft, IMO he seems to have a carrot/stick approach that may work well after Bushes boot in the ass theory.

[TailgateNut]

I do worry about the prisoners we will be letting go, and ones Bush already let go. I just read one guy who was at Gitmo, captured after tora bora I think, was released to Saudi Arabia, and has now escaped that country and is number 2 in charge of AlQueda in Yemen.

.



I though the #2 guy was killed about 10 times while Bush was in control!:spit:

Be afraid, be VERY AFRAID!


PS: thanks for the heads up, I'm headed to Home Depot to pick up my duct tape this morning.

[ak1971]

:yep:

I was driving through Orange County today and I saw some dipsh*t with a Bush/Cheney sticker on the back of his van.

It was like he was engaging in the last great act of defiance or something, e.g., "The Democrats may have taken back the WH and both chambers, and my party totally screwed the pooch, but I reserve the right to be a willfully ignorant bozo." :laugh:

I still see Kerry stickers...who cares

[gunns]

if it happens in less than a year, then yes I would blame Bush.....fair is fair

I was being sarcastic. The only people I can see to blame are the ones that do the attack. Bush may have implemented the Patriot Act and that may have prevented some copy cat attacks and some loonies desire for publicity, but it mostly just infringed on our rights. I'm sure the terrorists, i.e., Osama Bin Laden, laughed his ass off at what 9/11 accomplished as far as our freedoms and our fears. In some peoples views Clinton did little but we didn't have another attack on American soil for 7 1/2 years. Seems to me they are just slow planners.

No I do not have a problem with the airport inconveniences, things like that (wiretaps, YES) it just is not going to stop another attack and it's stupid to find someone to blame besides the attackers.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I still see Kerry stickers...who cares

No reason to be embarrassed about a Kerry sticker (but I wouldn't expect you to see the difference.)

[cutthemdown]

No reason to be embarrassed about a Kerry sticker (but I wouldn't expect you to see the difference.)

Anyone who puts stickers on there car should be embarrassed. No way I'm going to mess up my ride with an ugly sticker. Especially for some politician who doesn't even know I exist.

ASS GRASS or Gas no one rides for free makes more sense.

[Bronco Bob]

I have an American flag sticker on the back window of my pick-up.

No matter who is the president, that is still my flag.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Anyone who puts stickers on there car should be embarrassed. No way I'm going to mess up my ride with an ugly sticker. Especially for some politician who doesn't even know I exist.


I don't like stickers on my car either, but that's beside the point.

If you're going to put a bumper sticker on your car, then there's a lot more reason to be embarrassed over a Bush sticker than a Kerry sticker.

[W*GS]

The only thing political bumper stickers advertise is that your ideology is simplistic and that you're a simpleton.