The official Thank you Mr. Bush thread

[Hotrod]

I will start

Thank you for all your service to our country Mr. Bush. I hope you have a great retirement and live long and prosper.

[Florida_Bronco]

Yes, thank you for the good things you did for this country, as few and far between as they were.

Now, GTFO and let us fix this ****!

[TheDave]

I will start

Thank you for all your service to our country Mr. Bush. I hope you have a great retirement and live long and prosper.

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[footstepsfrom#27]

Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!

[Meck77]

So according to some around here he's going to run out the back door to his south American ranch right? lol

[jhat01]

So according to some around here he's going to run out the back door to his south American ranch right? lol

I thought he was going to cancel everything and take over the country! All the conspiracy nitwits must be disappointed today. Especially tweedle dee the jew hater, and tweedle dumb the globe trotting america hater.

I'm glad there's some new blood running the show, it's sure to be a refreshing change. I can't wait for what the idiots are going to come up with next. Fools...

[theAPAOps5]

Thank you GW for all your glorious Bushisms.

[ghwk]

Thank you for learning how to stand in front of a crowd and look tough.

Oh yeah, thanks for the shuffle dance too. Beyond that I got nothing.

[NUB]

Thanks for what you did for Africa.

That's all I got.

[TailgateNut]

Thanks for uniting us against idiots in the WH.

[snowspot66]

I honestly feel bad for the man. I'm sure pretty much nothing went how he may have wished it to happen.

I'm thankful to him for all the lessons he's taught us as people and as a nation. It's horribly unfair that you can learn far more from failures than from successes. It's an unfortunately painful lesson but if we make it out of this we'll be all the stronger for it because of the lessons we have learned and the knowledge we will pass down to the generations that follow.

Good luck George. We won't miss you. But thanks anyway.

[DenverBrit]

I honestly feel bad for the man. I'm sure pretty much nothing went how he may have wished it to happen.


Yes, it could have been worse. Ha!

[frerottenextelway]

Thank you for not dying and leaving Darth Vader President.

[alkemical]

..For two hotties

[Hotrod]

..For two hotties


Drunk hotties to boot........Awesome

[alkemical]

Drunk hotties to boot........Awesome

Did you notice though, how they look like his brothers kids? I mean either way..they are hot and like to get nekkid.

[Rigs11]

Thank you for extending daylight savings time and making SNL funny again.

[cutthemdown]

Bush had a tough presidency. I can't think of any President that had tougher things occur to the country under his watch. Katrina, 9-11 stand out as 2 of the worst things to happen to the country under any President.

It's a great time for a change but people will soon realize it's up to us as Americans to make it work, no President waves a magic wand and creates a great country for us to live in. It's the people who make the country great not the govt.

[TailgateNut]

Bush had a tough presidency. I can't think of any President that had tougher things occur to the country under his watch. Katrina, 9-11 stand out as 2 of the worst things to happen to the country under any President.

It's a great time for a change but people will soon realize it's up to us as Americans to make it work, no President waves a magic wand and creates a great country for us to live in. It's the people who make the country great not the govt.



Well, he ignored the warnings about one, and ignored properly responding to another.

[cutthemdown]

Thanks for what you did for Africa.

That's all I got.

He did do more for Africa then most Presidents.

I wonder how much Obama will care about Africa?

[Crushaholic]

Thank you for doing what you could to keep America safe after 9/11, Mr. Bush. I wouldn't be shocked to see President Obama keep many of those safeguards in place...

[cutthemdown]

Thank you for doing what you could to keep America safe after 9/11, Mr. Bush. I wouldn't be shocked to see President Obama keep many of those safeguards in place...

Bush expanded the power of the White House and Obama will for sure use that new power.

It will be interesting to see how Obama goes about business.

[TailgateNut]

Bush expanded the power of the White House and Obama will for sure use that new power.

It will be interesting to see how Obama goes about business.

He's already is by refusing to give up his BlackBerry. :wiggle:
I wouldn't want to give mine up. That thingy is amazing.

[Garcia Bronco]

He's already is by refusing to give up his BlackBerry. :wiggle:
I wouldn't want to give mine up. That thingy is amazing.

The problem is anything thing he types on it is available under the freedon of information act. He needs to let it go. No executive at his level should touch email ever.

[TailgateNut]

The problem is anything thing he types on it is available under the freedon of information act. He needs to let it go. No executive at his level should touch email ever.


Is that why BushCo made so many of theirs "disappear"?

[cutthemdown]

He's already is by refusing to give up his BlackBerry. :wiggle:
I wouldn't want to give mine up. That thingy is amazing.

Well anything he puts on it will be available to the public. I don't think he is going to want that.

If he uses it and refuses to turn that information over that would be a huge abuse of power and I don't think it will happen.

Of course people so enamored with him they may not care but in court he would lose and have to release everything that was typed on his blackberry.

[Rohirrim]

Thank you, George W. Bush, for setting the low end of the standard against which all future lousy presidents will be judged. May none of them ever sink to the level you set.

[W*GS]

Lessee IIRC...

Thanks, Mr. Bush, for not attacking Iran, as we were promised months ago.

Thanks, Mr. Bush, for not suspending the election, as we were promised months ago.

Thanks, Mr. Bush, for not imposing martial law, as we were promised months ago.

Amazing how many of the actions that some OMers claimed were epsilon from certainty just didn't take place, eh?

Of course, these flawed prognosticators will keep channeling Jeane Dixon...

[baja]

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[Dagmar]

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[TDmvp]

His speech right now at the welcome home rally has been entertaining ...

[Paladin]

Who would watch that?

The SOB is out!!!!!!!!! Help is on the way!!!!!

[rastaman]

Thank you Former President Bush. You have shown us you must be a God, for you could see the first plane crashing into the World Trade Center which was never televised. You were so humble that you didn't want to admit you could see it without the aid of television, so you stated you saw it on television.

<DT><DT>We all thank you for your gift of the Patriot Act. Since the 1200+ page document was all ready to sign the same week as 9-11, clearly you have the gift of foresight and had it all ready ahead of time. You saw that terrible evil coming on 9-11, but you didn't stop it because all those deaths were good forAmerica. </DT>

Thank you Former President Bush for your 100 year war you have bestowed upon the American people and indeed, all of the western world to fight terrorism will provide jobs for all. All those children from your wonderful "No Child Left Behind" public school policy that are now graduating from high schools everywhere are unfit for college. But they will find food, shelter, training and employment under the loving organization of Homeland Security.

Former President Bush, we're all so sorry that those six nuclear weapons that reached Barksdale, Louisiana last year (the logistics staging airbase for the mid-east war) were stopped by those annoying patriotic Americans. They should have been allowed to proceed to destroy Iran and officially start WW3. After all, you know what's best for America.

Former President Bush, all Americans everywhere want to join together and thank you for the highest fuel prices in the history of the planet. It took you considerable hard work and the courage to give away all the Iraqi oil to foreign corporations that many thousands of American soldiers died for, to make this gift become a reality. Because of this wonderful gift, last year millions of Americans were not troubled with making vacation plans. And they did not have to endure all that stress relief that goes with a nice vacation.

Former President Bush, we're all grateful for you not working too hard to find your arch enemy and supposed architect of 9-11, Bin Laden. We understand your need for him, and that finding him anytime after 9/11 would have end all justification for the mid-east conflict. After all, no one wanted to let the air out of your war tires thus ending the billion dollar sugar daddy the war profiteering Defense contractors and military industrialized complex enjoyed.

[NOLA Bronco]

... don't let the door hitcha where the good lord splitcha....

[baja]

Thank you Former President Bush. You have shown us you must be a God, for you could see the first plane crashing into the World Trade Center which was never televised. You were so humble that you didn't want to admit you could see it without the aid of television, so you stated you saw it on television.

<DT><DT>We all thank you for your gift of the Patriot Act. Since the 1200+ page document was all ready to sign the same week as 9-11, clearly you have the gift of foresight and had it all ready ahead of time. You saw that terrible evil coming on 9-11, but you didn't stop it because all those deaths were good forAmerica. </DT>

Thank you Former President Bush for your 100 year war you have bestowed upon the American people and indeed, all of the western world to fight terrorism will provide jobs for all. All those children from your wonderful "No Child Left Behind" public school policy that are now graduating from high schools everywhere are unfit for college. But they will find food, shelter, training and employment under the loving organization of Homeland Security.

Former President Bush, we're all so sorry that those six nuclear weapons that reached Barksdale, Louisiana last year (the logistics staging airbase for the mid-east war) were stopped by those annoying patriotic Americans. They should have been allowed to proceed to destroy Iran and officially start WW3. After all, you know what's best for America.

Former President Bush, all Americans everywhere want to join together and thank you for the highest fuel prices in the history of the planet. It took you considerable hard work and the courage to give away all the Iraqi oil to foreign corporations that many thousands of American soldiers died for, to make this gift become a reality. Because of this wonderful gift, last year millions of Americans were not troubled with making vacation plans. And they did not have to endure all that stress relief that goes with a nice vacation.

Former President Bush, we're all grateful for you not working too hard to find your arch enemy and supposed architect of 9-11, Bin Laden. We understand your need for him, and that finding him anytime after 9/11 would have end all justification for the mid-east conflict. After all, no one wanted to let the air out of your war tires thus ending the billion dollar sugar daddy the war profiteering Defense contractors and military industrialized complex enjoyed.

You should consider making this an e card rasta. We can pass it around the Internet for mass signings

[W*GS]

Bush does deserve thanks for revealing the mentally ill amongst the OMers...

What will they do without you to hate and to blame? Perhaps they'll return to reality, but I have grave doubts.

[ak1971]

Beans!

[Rigs11]

Here's one that will really irk wigged.thanks bush for not bending over for Israel and bombing Iran.

[DenverBrit]

He will be missed..........

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......by comedians. ;D

[Bronco Bob]

Thank you for showing the Fundies that there is indeed an missing link
between humans and chimps.

[Bronco Bob]

Bush does deserve thanks for revealing the mentally ill amongst the OMers...

What will they do without you to hate and to blame? Perhaps they'll return to reality, but I have grave doubts.

Don't worry, Hotrod, spdirty, barryr, llama, naptownchief, smiling assassin, and
Gaffney are going to be with us a long, long time.

[rastaman]

You should consider making this an e card rasta. We can pass it around the Internet for mass signings

Sounds great.....count me in.:approve:

[baja]

Sounds great.....count me in.:approve:

I'll send to my mailing list but I don't know the best way to create this project.

[Spider]

Thank you mr Bush for not dying and letting Cheney take charge ......... other then that ........see ya

[W*GS]

Here's one that will really irk wigged.thanks bush for not bending over for Israel and bombing Iran.

I heard you finished second in the goosestepping competition of Aryan Idol...

[Bronco Bob]

I heard you finished second in the goosestepping competition of Aryan Idol...

How did Paula rate your rendition of Hava Negila

[TailgateNut]

Well anything he puts on it will be available to the public. I don't think he is going to want that.

If he uses it and refuses to turn that information over that would be a huge abuse of power and I don't think it will happen.

Of course people so enamored with him they may not care but in court he would lose and have to release everything that was typed on his blackberry.



OH, I smell the hypocracy. When BushCo convieniently "LOST" their possibly questionable e-mails which where sent on goverment computers, that was OKEE DOKEE, just because they did it. Correct?

[Rigs11]

How did Paula rate your rendition of Hava Negila
he's not a jew, and he's not a republican either. or so he says.he didn't vote either. to be honest he makes idiotic comments that clearly define what he is and then he hides behind his libertarian alter ego.

[cutthemdown]

OH, I smell the hypocracy. When BushCo convieniently "LOST" their possibly questionable e-mails which where sent on goverment computers, that was OKEE DOKEE, just because they did it. Correct?

If Obama wants to lie and say he doesn't use it when he does I don't have a real problem with that. You can bet the media won't feel the same way.

By the way that smell is your own BS spewing from you mouth. Close it up and I'm sure it will go away.

[cutthemdown]

Obama should thank Bush for having the balls to send more troops to Iraq when everyone else wanted to bail out. Obama can now withdraw from Iraq and look good doing it.

[barryr]

Don't worry, Hotrod, spdirty, barryr, llama, naptownchief, smiling assassin, and
Gaffney are going to be with us a long, long time.

Oh boo hoo, you forgot yourself, though despite your such excellent takes, you are easy to forget.

[Rigs11]

Obama should thank Bush for having the balls to send more troops to Iraq when everyone else wanted to bail out. Obama can now withdraw from Iraq and look good doing it.

Are you freaking serious? Bush started the iraq war and left it for obama to deal with. And because bush took a gamble on the surge obama should thank bush? It's like me starting your house on fire and then calling the fire dept and expecting you to thank me for it.ridicoulous post.

[cutthemdown]

Are you freaking serious? Bush started the iraq war and left it for obama to deal with. And because bush took a gamble on the surge obama should thank bush? It's like me starting your house on fire and then calling the fire dept and expecting you to thank me for it.ridicoulous post.

Of course I'm serious. The Iraq war is over all that's left is to bring the troops home. Bush actually finished what BushSR and Clinton never did. Saddam needed to be dealt with IMO and Bush JR finished him off. Now Obama won't have to deal with Saddam, who was a thorn in every Presidents side since the first gulf war.

The whole notion that you fight a war then leave that countries leadership in power is a joke to me. BushSR should have finished the job in 91.

[Hotrod]

Are you freaking serious? Bush started the iraq war and left it for obama to deal with. And because bush took a gamble on the surge obama should thank bush? It's like me starting your house on fire and then calling the fire dept and expecting you to thank me for it.ridicoulous post.

I agree 100% with Cutt if Bush would have been weak kneed and not sent more troops like the socialist left wanted then Obama would have a nightmare on his hands. As it stands Barry very well might look like a hero when all this is over.

[cutthemdown]

I agree 100% with Cutt if Bush would have been weak kneed and not sent more troops like the socialist left wanted then Obama would have a nightmare on his hands. As it stands Barry very well might look like a hero when all this is over.

All he has to do is say bring home the troops. Hell yeah he will look good. I for one am ready to see Obama do what he promised in Afghanistan.

Time to kick the Taliban back into the hills and keep them there. Obama should plan to retake every city with over 1000 people in it.

[TailgateNut]

Of course I'm serious. The Iraq war is over all that's left is to bring the troops home..


:spit: Tell that to the soldiers getting killed and maimed. F-ing idiot. The war is over.:spit:

[Rigs11]

I agree 100% with Cutt if Bush would have been weak kneed and not sent more troops like the socialist left wanted then Obama would have a nightmare on his hands. As it stands Barry very well might look like a hero when all this is over.

So the 66% of americans who opposed the surge are socialists?that's rich.Oh and the decrease in violence actually started in the anbar province when the american troops left, which was before the surge. The "surge" was successful because we armed and bribed the sunnis, yep the same sunnis who months earlier had been fighting us.But keep believing that everything is rosy in iraq because we added extra troops.

[Hotrod]

So the 66% of americans who opposed the surge are socialists?that's rich.Oh and the decrease in violence actually started in the anbar province when the american troops left, which was before the surge. The "surge" was successful because we armed and bribed the sunnis, yep the same sunnis who months earlier had been fighting us.But keep believing that everything is rosy in iraq because we added extra troops.

Holy Fish ****ing tacos you mean Rigs & I dont agree on something.

[Rigs11]

Of course I'm serious. The Iraq war is over all that's left is to bring the troops home. Bush actually finished what BushSR and Clinton never did. Saddam needed to be dealt with IMO and Bush JR finished him off. Now Obama won't have to deal with Saddam, who was a thorn in every Presidents side since the first gulf war.

The whole notion that you fight a war then leave that countries leadership in power is a joke to me. BushSR should have finished the job in 91.

What's going on in iraq is not a war, it's an occupation.And it's not over.saddam was being dealt with.how quickly you forget the no fly zone and UN inspectors that weren't allowed to finish their jobs before dumbya went cowboy on them.Bush finished off saddam allright,the one guy,who even though was brutal, kept the sunnis ****tes and kurds from fighting.That country is screwed.

[cutthemdown]

However they got the violence down I don't care Riggs. Be it through force, money, or a combo of both. The plan to surge troops, use money to turn factions against each other and against Al Queda, was all part of it.

It worked well things are much better in Iraq then they were before surge. Also all of you said the surge would only lead to a surge in troop deaths. That never happened troop deaths went down.

IMO mostly because Iran stopped, or was stopped from sending the most dangerous roadside bombs.

Whatever though Bush said the surge would be good and would work, and it did. You can poo poo it all you want but Obama is better off because of the surge.

What will be interesting is what happens after troops leave. If Iraq blows up without our presence that will be on Obama.

[cutthemdown]

What's going on in iraq is not a war, it's an occupation.And it's not over.saddam was being dealt with.how quickly you forget the no fly zone and UN inspectors that weren't allowed to finish their jobs before dumbya went cowboy on them.Bush finished off saddam allright,the one guy,who even though was brutal, kept the sunnis ****tes and kurds from fighting.That country is screwed.

It's only screwed if Obama doesn't leave enough of a presence to help out with Iraqi security.

I can already see people setting up the Iraqi meltdown to be on Bush. If things get worst because Obama pulls out that is on Obama not Bush.

[TailgateNut]

It's only screwed if Obama doesn't leave enough of a presence to help out with Iraqi security.

I can already see people setting up the Iraqi meltdown to be on Bush. If things get worst because Obama pulls out that is on Obama not Bush.



Hey "brainchild", if I manage a project and near the end send one of my assistants to finish it, I am still ultimately responsible for the success or failure.
Bush started this mess, mismanaged it, and has now been able to run from it.

[cutthemdown]

Hey "brainchild", if I manage a project and near the end send one of my assistants to finish it, I am still ultimately responsible for the success or failure.
Bush started this mess, mismanaged it, and has now been able to run from it.

If you manage the project, get it going in right direction, then someone else takes over and quits I would say you are off the hook.

You would say of course it failed, the person who took over my project just quit.

School dismissed.

[Hotrod]

Hey "brainchild", if I manage a project and near the end send one of my assistants to finish it, I am still ultimately responsible for the success or failure.
Bush started this mess, mismanaged it, and has now been able to run from it.


That is all back asswards. If your company replaced you from a project that was doing well and making progress and the guy they replaced you with took a **** on said project I dont see how that would be your fault.

[TailgateNut]

If you manage the project, get it going in right direction, then someone else takes over and quits I would say you are off the hook.

You would say of course it failed, the person who took over my project just quit.

School dismissed.


But if I take over a project and feel that it is a failure and a complete and utter waste of money, I may just say **** this, and deal with my losses.

[TailgateNut]

That is all back asswards. If your company replaced you from a project that was doing well and making progress and the guy they replaced you with took a **** on said project I dont see how that would be your fault.
In regards to Bushs' project. Taking a **** on it would be an improvement.

[rastaman]

All he has to do is say bring home the troops. Hell yeah he will look good. I for one am ready to see Obama do what he promised in Afghanistan.

Time to kick the Taliban back into the hills and keep them there. Obama should plan to retake every city with over 1000 people in it.

You don't need to put U.S. troops on the ground in Afghanistan to defeat the Taliban, all you need to do is destroy the poppi fields. The money the Taliban get from the heroin trade will all but dry up, they can't buy weapons and influence and they'll head for the hills or become exposed and much easier to take out.

[Hotrod]

You don't need to put U.S. troops on the ground in Afghanistan to defeat the Taliban, all you need to do is destroy the poppi fields. The money the Taliban get from the heroin trade will all but dry up, they can't buy weapons and influence and they'll head for the hills or become exposed and much easier to take out.

Agent Orange would be the most sucessful way of doing this are you for that???

[cutthemdown]

But if I take over a project and feel that it is a failure and a complete and utter waste of money, I may just say **** this, and deal with my losses.

Then you would be responsible for thinking it was a waste. If Iraq did just as good without us then you would be vindicated.

If it spirals out of control you would be responsible.

to compare it to the biz world if you thought project was a waste, quit, then some other company made it work you would be responsible for that loss.

If no other company made that project or idea work then you would be vindicated.

[cutthemdown]

You don't need to put U.S. troops on the ground in Afghanistan to defeat the Taliban, all you need to do is destroy the poppi fields. The money the Taliban get from the heroin trade will all but dry up, they can't buy weapons and influence and they'll head for the hills or become exposed and much easier to take out.

Sounds like a good plan to me. Maybe do that first, dry up the money, then go in and kill them after they have no money for weapons.

[baja]

What if you lied to your boss (US citizens ) about the need for this project and through fear and cohesion rushed the project to production with out an exit plan and nearly bankrupt your employer's company with the project costs and lied about the revenue stream you promised as a system of reimbursement (oil revenues) Then your term of employment came to it's predetermined end with the project still far from complete with no real completion scenario in the for seeable future and the expenses still being racked up with no end in sight and the return on investment a myth. Who is responsible?

[Hotrod]

What if you lied to your boss (US citizens ) about the need for this project and through fear and cohesion rushed the project to production with out an exit plan and nearly bankrupt your employer's company with the project costs and lied about the revenue stream you promised as a system of reimbursement (oil revenues) Then your term of employment came to it's predetermined end with the project still far from complete with no real completion scenario in the for seeable future and the expenses still being racked up with no end in sight and the return on investment a myth. Who is responsible?

I'd have to say you have a pretty ****ty boss if he is pushed into a project thru fear and cohesion.

[rastaman]

Agent Orange would be the most sucessful way of doing this are you for that???

No that would be the wrong move and will have long term unintended consequences, b/c AO would infect the local population and cancer will arise in large numbers like what occurred in Vietnam.

Instead, U.S. and NATO would need to practice scorched earth bombing raids/runs on the Poppy fields. You drop the bombs when the seeds are first planted and then again at harvest time. You do this two years in a row....and believe me, you will all but devastate and wipe out the Afghan Poppy fields and heroin trade.

The Tali-ban will be devastated. They would not be able to pay their soldiers nor buy weapons at the level they were able to do previously.

Now of course once eradicate the heroine trade, ya gotta have a game plan to rebuild the Afghan infrastructure and employ the people to rebuild their own country.

Remember, the Afghan's do not like to be occupied by foreigners. So our military can't over stay its welcome. It must be up to the Afghanistan people to not allow the Taliban to comeback into power once the U.S. military knocks them out of power.

[W*GS]

he's not a jew, and he's not a republican either. or so he says.he didn't vote either. to be honest he makes idiotic comments that clearly define what he is and then he hides behind his libertarian alter ego.

I did vote.

You're a Nazi wanna-be.

[cutthemdown]

What if you lied to your boss (US citizens ) about the need for this project and through fear and cohesion rushed the project to production with out an exit plan and nearly bankrupt your employer's company with the project costs and lied about the revenue stream you promised as a system of reimbursement (oil revenues) Then your term of employment came to it's predetermined end with the project still far from complete with no real completion scenario in the for seeable future and the expenses still being racked up with no end in sight and the return on investment a myth. Who is responsible?

no matter what Obama is President and responsible for any consequences of a pullout.

You can try and set it up so no matter what everything still get's blamed on Bush but the fact is every President get's left with baggage.

You don't get to just say it's all the other guys fault when you step into the Oval Office.

From this point on Obama will have to face the music for any major decisions he makes.

[NOLA Bronco]

responsible for any consequences of a pullout.


Wait. I thought by pulling out you could avoid consequences....

[Rigs11]

I did vote.

You're a Nazi wanna-be.

You never fail to dissapoint with the Nazi comment. Bravo .last time I asked you said you weren't voting. What changed your mind?

[cutthemdown]

Wait. I thought by pulling out you could avoid consequences....

oh for sure in most cases you can. If you use some armor to protect your troops as you pull out you can be even safer.

[W*GS]

You never fail to dissapoint with the Nazi comment. Bravo .last time I asked you said you weren't voting. What changed your mind?

I wanted to make sure McCain didn't win Colorado, so I voted for Obama.

Yep.

[cutthemdown]

Calling people Nazis is a joke even when they make as little sense as Riggs.

The Nazis were among the worst we have seen. Hopefully it hasn't gotten so long ago people forget that.

It's one thing to be sympathetic to the Palestinians and pull for the underdog. IMO that is totally understandable.

If not for some close friends that lived in Israel I may feel quite different. Switch that to having close ties to some Palestinians and that would probably make for a total switch.

I would like to see Obama do better in the mideast but IMO it's sort of like the Broncos defense. No matter how good the President is they are going to suck. Until Hamas and Israel, and Hezzbollah, and the Iranians and Syrians learn to respect another it won't happen.

The racial and cultural divide runs deep and I don't think it can be bridged.

For one reason is the Muslim religion and conservative Jewish have really ridgid guidlines that seem to promote a division among people that aren't the same as you.

I know for a fact there are a lot of great Jewish people. The muslims I know are white and American so I probably can't say I really know a lot of them, but they are also great people. It really is too bad the world has differences that run so deep it causes war to envelope civilians, women and children.

[Miss I.]

Wait. I thought by pulling out you could avoid consequences....

yeah, that's the Catholic theory, but that's also why my cousin has 10 kids. Yeah unless your hubby really has a rythym called Trojan that method does not work. ;D

As for Mr. Bush and his legacy, I wish him health and Karma. I hope all the things you do come back to you as they do for all of us. This is not meant vindictively, only as I believe in the circle of life, the things you put out there come back to you, good and bad.

[cutthemdown]

yeah, that's the Catholic theory, but that's also why my cousin has 10 kids. Yeah unless your hubby really has a rythym called Trojan that method does not work. ;D

As for Mr. Bush and his legacy, I wish him health and Karma. I hope all the things you do come back to you as they do for all of us. This is not meant vindictively, only as I believe in the circle of life, the things you put out there come back to you, good and bad.

I think it has to do with how early the guy is willing to pull out. ROFL!

Let's face it how many of us men can be trusted with that much responsibility?

I'd say about 1 out of every 76,000

[Miss I.]

I think it has to do with how early the guy is willing to pull out. ROFL!

Let's face it how many of us men can be trusted with that much responsibility?

I'd say about 1 out of every 76,000

Wow, that high hmm, I wouldn't have given you guys that much credit. :~ohyah!:

[baja]

I'd have to say you have a pretty ****ty boss if he is pushed into a project thru fear and cohesion.

have to agree with you there Hotrod but you must admit "Mushroom Clouds" are going to make a mighty persuasive case for going forward...

[baja]

no matter what Obama is President and responsible for any consequences of a pullout.

You can try and set it up so no matter what everything still get's blamed on Bush but the fact is every President get's left with baggage.

You don't get to just say it's all the other guys fault when you step into the Oval Office.

From this point on Obama will have to face the music for any major decisions he makes.

Flawed logic!

Bush went in half cocked with no exit plan against the wishes of Obama and because of the stupid and maybe criminal acts of Bush this nightmare is dropped into Obama's lap. Obama did have the perfect solution, don't go there in the first place.

[Bronco Bob]

Oh boo hoo, you forgot yourself, though despite your such excellent takes, you are easy to forget.

Sounds like I touched a nerve. Good.

[Bronco Bob]

I'd have to say you have a pretty ****ty boss if he is pushed into a project thru fear and cohesion.

Yes, but as ****ty as this boss was, eventually he wised up to what
was going on and decided to hire someone competent to manage things.
Not only that, but he fired several members of the staff and brought in
new employees.

[enjolras]

You can't polish this turd. Bush was(thank god it's past tense finally) a terrible president. Plain and simple. He showed utter contempt for the constitution and the bill of rights. From expanding executive power to curtailing the rights of citizens, this has been an unmitigated disaster.

I applaud the attempts at revisionist history, but I'm not letting that happen.

[Miss I.]

Sounds like I touched a nerve. Good.

Just be sure to suit up ya know. Safety First buddy.;D

[cutthemdown]

Flawed logic!

Bush went in half cocked with no exit plan against the wishes of Obama and because of the stupid and maybe criminal acts of Bush this nightmare is dropped into Obama's lap. Obama did have the perfect solution, don't go there in the first place.

I don't pretend to say I know for sure taking Saddam out was best. But likewise you can't say you know leaving Saddam in power was best.

So your logic is flawed.

My logic isn't because I'm only saying every President has to be responsible for his actions.

Just like Bush Jr can't blame Iraq by saying well my Dad and Bill Clinton screwed up the relationship with Iraq so it's not my fault.

Every President has to deal with the baggage of history, and be responsible for the consequences of his actions.

If Obama pulls out to early or fast and Iraq had a civil war that ended up with a regime hostile to the US that would be a bad move by Obama.

If he pulls out and things go fine then I think he wins without really ever having to do much.

I think Iraq will be ok because we have been there a long time, and IMO the country ready to simmer and not boil again.

[TailgateNut]

no matter what Obama is President and responsible for any consequences of a pullout.

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So Obama is responsible for Bush's Rape?

[TailgateNut]

Yes, but as ****ty as this boss was, eventually he wised up to what
was going on and decided to hire someone competent to manage things.
Not only that, but he fired several members of the staff and brought in
new employees.

:thanku:

Sometimes drastic measures must be used to correct/ bail the **** out.

[Rigs11]

Calling people Nazis is a joke even when they make as little sense as Riggs.

I would like to see Obama do better in the mideast but IMO it's sort of like the Broncos defense. No matter how good the President is they are going to suck. Until Hamas and Israel, and Hezzbollah, and the Iranians and Syrians learn to respect another it won't happen.

The racial and cultural divide runs deep and I don't think it can be bridged.

For one reason is the Muslim religion and conservative Jewish have really ridgid guidlines that seem to promote a division among people that aren't the same as you.

I know for a fact there are a lot of great Jewish people. The muslims I know are white and American so I probably can't say I really know a lot of them, but they are also great people. It really is too bad the world has differences that run so deep it causes war to envelope civilians, women and children.
Funny that you can see this about israel but not iraq.Those people have been killing each other for hundreds of years.Then you have Bush go in and totally destablize that country.Yep you make a lot more sense....

[cutthemdown]

Funny that you can see this about israel but not iraq.Those people have been killing each other for hundreds of years.Then you have Bush go in and totally destablize that country.Yep you make a lot more sense....

To tell you the truth I could care less if the Iraqis kill each other. Just don't invade Kuwait again, shoot at our planes or try to stand up to the USA again like Saddam did.

Obama can pull out and country can go to **** for all I care. Go to Afghanistan and finish teaching them a lesson. Maybe now countries will start to understand not to piss us off.

[TailgateNut]

Maybe now countries will start to understand not to piss us off.

That's the problem with your ****wads. You seem to think we, for some undocumented reason have the right and rensponsibilty to keep everyone "in line" while stepping over the line to do so.

Idiots.

Why did they attack us on 9-11? Hmmmm?

[cutthemdown]

That's the problem with your ****wads. You seem to think we, for some undocumented reason have the right and rensponsibilty to keep everyone "in line" while stepping over the line to do so.

Idiots.

Why did they attack us on 9-11? Hmmmm?

I could care less why they do it. Only thing Muslims understand is the sword.

[cutthemdown]

We have obviously proved it only gets worst for you when you attack the USA. IMO you won't see many countries want to participate in an attack against us anytime soon.

Since 9-11 not one attack on our soil. That's all I care about. If Obama does as well I will be happy. I totally agree with pulling out in Iraq. Time to go kick ass in Afghanistan. Looks like once again I support the President of our country. Wow what a surprise.

Kicking ass is the only thing these terrorists understand. To be nice and pull out our bases from around the world like they want would only make them more bold.

[barryr]

Sounds like I touched a nerve. Good.

Not really, but if it makes you feel important, have at it.

[barryr]

That's the problem with your ****wads. You seem to think we, for some undocumented reason have the right and rensponsibilty to keep everyone "in line" while stepping over the line to do so.

Idiots.

Why did they attack us on 9-11? Hmmmm?


Um, they attacked us because they want to spread Sharia Law and know our country is mainly in the way of that happening. All you have to do is read what their goals are and that's it. It's already starting in Europe in certain parts of cities and eventually with the birth rates as they are in Europe, muslims will be the majority and have a much better chance at spreading and implementing their beliefs. Ask France, Britain, and Holland especially.

[jhat01]

they attacked us because we like boobs.

[Paladin]

To tell you the truth I could care less if the Iraqis kill each other. Just don't invade Kuwait again, shoot at our planes or try to stand up to the USA again like Saddam did.

Obama can pull out and country can go to **** for all I care. Go to Afghanistan and finish teaching them a lesson. Maybe now countries will start to understand not to piss us off.

So, you have given up the "spreading democracy" crapola. eh? You are singing a different tune now. You criticized me for my earlier statement that the Iraqi Civil War would not be our concern. Let them at it. Iran would get involved, but let them deal with the Shiites, not us.

[Paladin]

they attacked us because we like boobs.

You are not far from the truth there. You may be a bit too narrow, but not far.......

[Hotrod]

Um, they attacked us because they want to spread Sharia Law and know our country is mainly in the way of that happening. All you have to do is read what their goals are and that's it. It's already starting in Europe in certain parts of cities and eventually with the birth rates as they are in Europe, muslims will be the majority and have a much better chance at spreading and implementing their beliefs. Ask France, Britain, and Holland especially.

100% correct. Problem is the truth does not fit into Americas Politically correct stupidness. So instead of knowing our enemy we mold him into something he is not.

[TailgateNut]

100% correct. Problem is the truth does not fit into Americas Politically correct stupidness. So instead of knowing our enemy we mold him into something he is not.


Holy shiate, Hotrod is seing the light.

[frerottenextelway]

Since 9-11 not one attack on our soil. That's all I care about. If Obama does as well I will be happy.


How depressing is the last Presidency when their biggest achievement is that only the greatest terrorist attack in U.S. history struck us, but that's a good thing because they don't hold spots 2 and 3 too.

[rastaman]

To tell you the truth I could care less if the Iraqis kill each other. Just don't invade Kuwait again, shoot at our planes or try to stand up to the USA again like Saddam did.

Obama can pull out and country can go to **** for all I care. Go to Afghanistan and finish teaching them a lesson. Maybe now countries will start to understand not to piss us off.

Hate to break it to ya! But neither Iraq nor Afghanistan can be occupied indefinitely by a western European occupier.

It has absolutely nothing to do with pissing off the US! It comes down to respecting the wishes of the country you claim to be helping.

Keep in mind the US only needs to stay in Afghanistan long enough to either kill and bring Osama to justice! or stay long enough to help the Afghanistan destroy Al Queda. It is not the US military job to conquer the Tali-ban. The Tali-ban are a fixture of the Afghanistan culture as conservatives are fixtures of America's culture.

Point I'm trying to make here, is hopefully Obama is not foolish enough to allow Afghanistan to become "His" Vietnam. There is a 2,000 year history that proves over-n-over that Afghanistan will never be conquered by western European nations. Smart bombs and weapons from the industrialized nations around the world will not conquer Afghanistan.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

How depressing is the last Presidency when their biggest achievement is that only the greatest terrorist attack in U.S. history struck us, but that's a good thing because they don't hold spots 2 and 3 too.

Watching a handful of neocon extremist nincompoops still trying to cover the smirking sociopath's flank makes for some good comedy, you have to admit. Ha!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

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[Rigs11]

To tell you the truth I could care less if the Iraqis kill each other. Just don't invade Kuwait again, shoot at our planes or try to stand up to the USA again like Saddam did.

Obama can pull out and country can go to **** for all I care. Go to Afghanistan and finish teaching them a lesson. Maybe now countries will start to understand not to piss us off.

There's the redneck, "patriotic", rambo mentality that has created terrorism.It will never end until we stop staying out of other countries affairs. seriously why is it so hard for you people to understand that?

[Rigs11]

Hate to break it to ya! But neither Iraq nor Afghanistan can be occupied indefinitely by a western European occupier.

It has absolutely nothing to do with pissing off the US! It comes down to respecting the wishes of the country you claim to be helping.

Keep in mind the US only needs to stay in Afghanistan long enough to either kill and bring Osama to justice! or stay long enough to help the Afghanistan destroy Al Queda. It is not the US military job to conquer the Tali-ban. The Tali-ban are a fixture of the Afghanistan culture as conservatives are fixtures of America's culture.

Point I'm trying to make here, is hopefully Obama is not foolish enough to allow Afghanistan to become "His" Vietnam. There is a 2,000 year history that proves over-n-over that Afghanistan will never be conquered by western European nations. Smart bombs and weapons from the industrialized nations around the world will not conquer Afghanistan.

No to mention that we armed the taliban when they were fighting the russians.

[cutthemdown]

There's the redneck, "patriotic", rambo mentality that has created terrorism.It will never end until we stop staying out of other countries affairs. seriously why is it so hard for you people to understand that?

If America had stayed out of other countries affairs we wouldn't be as powerful as we are nor have near the amount of land.

You can't have it both ways. If you don't flex muscle you will lose it. I can already see Obama is going to make me very happy. He will kick ass in Afghanistan then maybe even go to Africa and teach them a thing or 2.

Hell he's going to spend so much money even if he raises taxes I bet I can get rich.

Let's go Obama, hell I love him!!!!!

[cutthemdown]

No to mention that we armed the taliban when they were fighting the russians.

That has nothing to do with anything. We were putting the hurt on the Russians for when they gave weapons to N Vietnam.

It's great that you have the sheep mentality. The world needs people like you to take advantage of.

I'm glad Obama doesn't agree with you.

[W*GS]

al-Qaeda attacked us (the "Far Enemy") because we're allied with the Saudi regime, which OBl views as heretical. By attacking us, the intention was that we would withdraw support from the al-Saud family, and thus they would weaken, and OBL could overthrow them and rule Saudi Arabia (and Mecca and Medina, of course) as he believed they ought to be ruled.

Plus, he hates the way we like boobs. Hooters really pisses him off.

[cutthemdown]

So, you have given up the "spreading democracy" crapola. eh? You are singing a different tune now. You criticized me for my earlier statement that the Iraqi Civil War would not be our concern. Let them at it. Iran would get involved, but let them deal with the Shiites, not us.

did I criticize you for not caring? Or did i say it's in our best interests for it to not happen. There is a difference. I care only in that it could lesson the amount of oil on the market etc. I don't really shed a tear though you are right about that.

What I thought I said was that Obama is responsible for what happens after he pulls out. I stand by that. Now would I care or hold it against Obama? probably not as long as oil flowed and he kicked some ass in Afghanistan. If Iraqis want to overthrow the govt I don't really care. But politically if they then became hostile to US it would be a bad move for a President. I'd keep some troops there and make sure the govt stays friendly.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

No to mention that we armed the taliban when they were fighting the russians.

And Bush and his Texas oil buddies were doing "bidness" with them while they were engaged in the same crimes Team Thug suddenly denounced after 9/11.