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Smiling Assassin27
01-16-2009, 03:26 PM
Does this worry anyone?

Secret List of U.S. Military Bases to Replace Gitmo
Pendleton, Leavenworth, Miramar Included as Possible New Home for 250 Detainees
By BRIAN ROSS and LUIS MARTINEZ
Jan. 16, 2009—


The U.S. military has prepared a list of U.S. military bases that could be used to house as many as 250 detainees currently being held at the U.S. Naval base in Guantanamo Bay, military officials tell ABCNews.com.


The list -- which includes Camp Pendleton in California, Fort Leavenworth in Kansas; the Marine Air Station in Miramar, California; and the U.S. Naval Consolidated Brig in South Carolina -- has been circulated in a classified brief to members of Congress and was prepared by the Pentagon's Joint Staff.


President-elect Barack Obama is expected to order that the Guantanamo Bay detainee facility be closed on his first day in office, officials say. Officials say it would take at least a year to prepare a new prison and transfer the detainees.



The preliminary list was based on cost, logistic, and security concerns, but the Department of Defense is expected to present a more comprehensive recommendation based on a variety of factors, according a military official.


Camp Pendleton was determined to be the least expensive option and officials say its vast 125,000 acre size would allow for a new prison to be built in an isolated and secure area.


60,000 Residents, Employees at Camp Pendleton
Camp Pendleton has a daytime population of 60,000, according to its website, including military personnel, their families and civilian employees.


Three San Diego county Congressmen have already voiced opposition to sending the terror detainees to Camp Pendleton.


Congressmen Duncan Hunter (R-CA), Brian Bilbray (R-CA) and Darrell Issa (R-CA) sent a letter Tuesday to Defense Secretary Robert Gates saying Camp Pendleton was too busy preparing Marines for combat.


"We feel that introducing Guantanamo Bay terrorist suspects would certainly negatively impact Camp Pendleton's training and wartime missions," the letter stated. "For those Marines serving in harm's way they should now not have to worry about the safety of their families."



A spokesperson for Hunter, a retired Marine combat veteran, said he had not been informed of the recommendation.


A spokesman for Senator Sam Brownback (R-KS) said that the Senator called Secretary Gates and Admiral Mullen earlier this week to convey his concerns about using Fort Leavenworth to house detainees..


Brownback, who was not briefed on this list, spoke out against the possible use of Leavenworth at Thursday's confirmation hearings for Attorney General nominee Eric Holder.


"Fort Leavenworth does not want these detainees," Brownback flatly told Holder. "If I could put it any clearer to you, I would. But they don't want these detainees."

Brownback said the use of Leavenworth to house prisoners would interfere with the primary mission of the base which is education.

"And if you hurt that by moving detainees to a place at Leavenworth that's not fit anyway to move this, this is a big hit," said Brownback. "And I would just plead you really to look at the specifics. "

The Lone Bolt
01-16-2009, 03:42 PM
I thought they were being shipped off to Oakland where they belong.;D

Hotrod
01-16-2009, 03:46 PM
Pendeleton is the perfect location for this turds. Just hope the military does not miss any tagets during live fire exercise.

Smiling Assassin27
01-16-2009, 03:47 PM
Yeah, put them directly next door to a nuclear plant...genius. What could possibly go wrong?

Hotrod
01-16-2009, 03:55 PM
Yeah, put them directly next door to a nuclear plant...genius. What could possibly go wrong?

Meh you use mini-nukes and bring the prison down and blame it on Jews or something.

Rohirrim
01-16-2009, 03:58 PM
I was born at Pendleton. Not that it has anything to do with anything. ;D

watermock
01-16-2009, 04:04 PM
Aren't condoms free to military personell?

Bronco Bob
01-16-2009, 04:27 PM
Why not put them in Florence?

Rohirrim
01-16-2009, 04:46 PM
Aren't condoms free to military personell?

Nice, Mock. Remind me to fix you up a nice peanut butter sandwich next time I see ya. :welcome:

Bronco Bob
01-16-2009, 04:48 PM
Aren't condoms free to military personell?

Must be something new. I had to buy my own when I was in the Navy.

kappys
01-16-2009, 05:21 PM
I thought they were all going to Bagram no?

baja
01-16-2009, 05:32 PM
Aren't condoms free to military personell?

No, but you do get a 15% discount on condom dry cleaning at the PX.

cutthemdown
01-17-2009, 01:38 AM
Why can't we just keep them at Gitmo but not waterboard them etc. Is it where they are being held that people see as illegal? Haven't POW often been kept in prisons built overseas until the war ends?

If we move them to American prisons how does that make it more legal? If we are going to try them in American judicial system how do we go about that?

What a mess this is, no wonder Bush decided not to try them and leave it for the next President.

Hopefully one of these terrorists won't get out and do something that makes Obama look foolish, you know like fly a plane into a building or something.

TailgateNut
01-17-2009, 06:56 AM
Some of you need to "GROW A SET". The era of "American Fear Factor" will be over come tuesday.

jhat01
01-17-2009, 10:58 AM
Why can't we just keep them at Gitmo but not waterboard them etc. Is it where they are being held that people see as illegal? Haven't POW often been kept in prisons built overseas until the war ends?

If we move them to American prisons how does that make it more legal? If we are going to try them in American judicial system how do we go about that?

What a mess this is, no wonder Bush decided not to try them and leave it for the next President.

Hopefully one of these terrorists won't get out and do something that makes Obama look foolish, you know like fly a plane into a building or something.


I think it's probably the perception of the whole thing. Close baaaad Gitmo, where all the "torture" happened. Throw them in a dump somewhere else and everyone is OK with it. They should just paint them black with white rings around them and they can be the targets at the rifle range at Pendleton.

barryr
01-17-2009, 11:14 AM
No worry, just remember the great mindset, there's no muslim terrorists, it doesn't exist. Keep believing that BS so another 9/11 will come and leave the stunned left as wondering what happened.

Bronco Bob
01-17-2009, 02:30 PM
Why can't we just keep them at Gitmo but not waterboard them etc. Is it where they are being held that people see as illegal? Haven't POW often been kept in prisons built overseas until the war ends?


They brought a lot of German POWs here during WW2. My dad even guarded
German POWs before he got sent overseas. Never had a bit of trouble with
them either. Don't know about the Japanese, a lot of them committed suicide
rather than being taken prisoner.

Bronco Bob
01-17-2009, 02:31 PM
No worry, just remember the great mindset, there's no muslim terrorists, it doesn't exist. Keep believing that BS so another 9/11 will come and leave the stunned left as wondering what happened.

And what strawman is this in reference to?

TDmvp
01-17-2009, 03:18 PM
They should just let them stay in the spare rooms of the White House , and those that they don't have room for can be placed with Michael Moore and Rosie O'donnell ... Then they can hug and talk to them to it is all better ...

DenverBrit
01-17-2009, 04:29 PM
Send them to Detroit.....they'll beg to have Gitmo reopened. ;D

barryr
01-17-2009, 04:30 PM
And what strawman is this in reference to?

Gee, real hard to figure out.

Spider
01-17-2009, 05:18 PM
And what strawman is this in reference to?

it is berryr . there is no telling ..... some of the things he comes up with ......

elsid13
01-17-2009, 05:52 PM
OK, lets be honest there a number for ****ers that should never see the light of day again. I do think that we should keep them were they are, it's easier and it ensure that they won't cause mischief. But I wouldn't mind putting some of their heads on poles either.

cutthemdown
01-17-2009, 11:32 PM
They brought a lot of German POWs here during WW2. My dad even guarded
German POWs before he got sent overseas. Never had a bit of trouble with
them either. Don't know about the Japanese, a lot of them committed suicide
rather than being taken prisoner.

Yes for the Japanese the dishonor of being captured was so great they would rather die. The Japanese soldier was hard to defeat, you pretty much had to kill every single one of them. On some of the islands they would be down to a few thousand vs 25 thousand Marines and they still wouldn't surrender, they would charge and die instead.

I really have no problem with moving the prisoners, my point was more like a cell is a cell is a cell, I doubt they will be much more comfortable at a military prison base in the States. Whatever though it's not my money. Well Errrr I guess it is!!!!!!! but really I don't care, I just don't want them let go.

cutthemdown
01-17-2009, 11:34 PM
Do you think they world would believe us if we put them on a boat and then torpedoed it in Venezuelan water and said Hugo did it!!!!!

cutthemdown
01-17-2009, 11:34 PM
Or would that be wrong?

TDmvp
01-17-2009, 11:41 PM
two words.
prison barges.

frerottenextelway
01-18-2009, 12:27 AM
Why can't we just keep them at Gitmo but not waterboard them etc. Is it where they are being held that people see as illegal? Haven't POW often been kept in prisons built overseas until the war ends?

If we move them to American prisons how does that make it more legal? If we are going to try them in American judicial system how do we go about that?

What a mess this is, no wonder Bush decided not to try them and leave it for the next President.

Hopefully one of these terrorists won't get out and do something that makes Obama look foolish, you know like fly a plane into a building or something.

They are not considered POWs by the US. If they were, we would have to follow the Geneva Conventions. Since we're not, we would have undebatedly committed War crimes. They have been considered "enemy combatants", and since we're using a different term, we decided we can do whatever the f_ck we want, regardless of any treaties we put into law.

Lovely, ain't it - makes your body tingle with pride.

defenseman
01-18-2009, 07:03 AM
Yeah, put them directly next door to a nuclear plant...genius. What could possibly go wrong?

Do you realize the measures taken to protect the assets of a nuclear power plant these days? They are incredibly stringent to say the least in many cases....dman