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Popcorn Sutton
01-16-2009, 08:16 AM
REPORT: SCHWARTZ WANTS BATES OR SCHOTTENHEIMER TO RUN OFFENSE
Posted by Mike Florio on January 15, 2009, 11:44 p.m.

Now that Jim Schwartz is the new coach of the Detroit Lions, heíll have to lure assistant coaches to a franchise that has won one playoff game since Dwight D. Eisenhower was running the country.

At the top of his list on the offensive side of the ball, per Chris Mortensen of ESPN, are Broncos quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates and Jets offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer.

Mort reports that Bates signed a three-year extension with the Broncos after coach Mike Shanahan was fired. However, the Broncos recently gave Bates permission to interview with the Raiders for a position on the teamís coaching staff; if the Broncos would let Bates jump to their arch-rivals in Oakland, the Broncos surely would let Bates go to Detroit.

As to Schottenheimer, Mort says that the holdover from Eric Manginiís staff might ask out of his contract, if he isnít hired to be Manginiís replacement. But Mortensens also says that the Jets prefer to keep the offensive staff in place, if the team eventually hires Ravens defensive coordinator Rex Ryan or Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo.


It's sounding more and more like Turner is going to be the only coaching holdover from last season.

Rock Chalk
01-16-2009, 08:18 AM
Bye Bates! We hardly loved your 2 to 1 pass to run ratio.

Killericon
01-16-2009, 08:26 AM
What if Cutler decides he can't live without his pal, and decides to retire to become Bates' QB coach in Detroit? WHAT THEN?!?

SoDak Bronco
01-16-2009, 08:51 AM
i am sure this has to due with Shanny talking with Jeff Fisher and letting him know what a good coach Bates is going to be. Or Hermindinger Sp? talking up his young offensive assistant

Borks147
01-16-2009, 09:08 AM
i am sure this has to due with Shanny talking with Jeff Fisher and letting him know what a good coach Bates is going to be. Or Hermindinger Sp? talking up his young offensive assistant

or, you know, maybe it was the whole #2 offense in the league the first year calling plays thing........

Kaylore
01-16-2009, 09:10 AM
Calvin Johnson I have two words for you: bubble screen.

tsiguy96
01-16-2009, 09:13 AM
Bye Bates! We hardly loved your 2 to 1 pass to run ratio.

yea bates! we gave you so many non-injured running backs to work with to, which made our running game effective enough to justify calling ANY running plays!

rugbythug
01-16-2009, 09:14 AM
or, you know, maybe it was the whole #2 offense in the league the first year calling plays thing........


Can we stop throwing around this #2 offense in the League Crap. You act like we did not see the games.

2KBack
01-16-2009, 09:21 AM
yea bates! we gave you so many non-injured running backs to work with to, which made our running game effective enough to justify calling ANY running plays!

That excuse works at the end of the season, but Denver didn't start the year with 7 injured RB's.... the playcalling was still unbalanced when there were healthy backs

supermanhr9
01-16-2009, 09:22 AM
I'd hate to see Bates go because I know Cutler will start pouting, and there goes our chances next year. We all knwo how good he plays when the pouting starts up. This is news to me that I had no idea he interviewed w/ the raiders. What the hell do contracts mean anymore? You sign a contract you stay with them unless you get fired. Am I the only one with this belief?

2KBack
01-16-2009, 09:24 AM
I'd hate to see Bates go because I know Cutler will start pouting, and there goes our chances next year. We all knwo how good he plays when the pouting starts up. This is news to me that I had no idea he interviewed w/ the raiders. What the hell do contracts mean anymore? You sign a contract you stay with them unless you get fired. Am I the only one with this belief?

you have to have the potential for advancement. you have to honor your contract for the position you hold, but if someone offers you a promotion you should be able to take it.

tsiguy96
01-16-2009, 09:36 AM
That excuse works at the end of the season, but Denver didn't start the year with 7 injured RB's.... the playcalling was still unbalanced when there were healthy backs

yea and we were averaging like 34 points a game then too...

2KBack
01-16-2009, 09:47 AM
yea and we were averaging like 34 points a game then too...

We finally lost Hillis in week 14, up until then we always had a back healthy was successful whenever thy actually decided to run the ball. that's 3 whole weeks where Bates had no other option than to pass. Every other week who knew what we were going to see. denver socred 30+ points 5 times, kudos to them. They also scored less than 20 points seven times. while the defense was a pretty consistant suck, the Offense was inconsistant as ****. It passed far too much, often leading to turnovers due to the sheer volume. This team isn't going anywhere throwing the ball 600 times a season, and that wasn't all injuriesd to RB, it was a stubbourn air attack philosophy

bronco militia
01-16-2009, 09:54 AM
We finally lost Hillis in week 14, up until then we always had a back healthy was successful whenever thy actually decided to run the ball. that's 3 whole weeks where Bates had no other option than to pass. Every other week who knew what we were going to see. denver socred 30+ points 5 times, kudos to them. They also scored less than 20 points seven times. while the defense was a pretty consistant suck, the Offense was inconsistant as ****. It passed far too much, often leading to turnovers due to the sheer volume. This team isn't going anywhere throwing the ball 600 times a season, and that wasn't all injuriesd to RB, it was a stubbourn air attack philosophy


WORD

supermanhr9
01-16-2009, 10:16 AM
Touche

montrose
01-16-2009, 11:28 AM
Calvin Johnson I have two words for you: bubble screen.

McDaniels loves the screen too, although he's a fan of multiple types of screens. Hopefully he doesn't fall as much in love with the Scheffler-bubble screen as Bates did. I'm all for getting the ball into Marshall and Royal's hands though.

no-pseudo-fan
01-16-2009, 11:33 AM
Bubble Screen is fine, if you can throw it in as a change of pace, or you are making people pay for playing off coverage.

BroncoMan4ever
01-16-2009, 12:29 PM
I'd hate to see Bates go because I know Cutler will start pouting, and there goes our chances next year. We all knwo how good he plays when the pouting starts up. This is news to me that I had no idea he interviewed w/ the raiders. What the hell do contracts mean anymore? You sign a contract you stay with them unless you get fired. Am I the only one with this belief?

Jay will be fine next season. He upgraded with McDaniels and not Bates is expendable.
He would have been upset had we hired a defensive minded coach who then got rid of Bates, but we hired a way more talented version of Bates and that will keep Jay happy.

You don't think his mouth is watering when he thinks about how incredible his offense and his stats are more than likely going to be while working with the guy who coordinated the best offense ever in the NFL.

Jay more than likely just went from being a 4500 passing yards a year with 25TD's and 18INT's a year guy to a guy who will throw for over 4000 every year, around 33TD's and 12INT's a year.

Bates copied a system, McDaniels knows that system inside and out. Jay will be fine.

Tombstone RJ
01-16-2009, 02:43 PM
yea bates! we gave you so many non-injured running backs to work with to, which made our running game effective enough to justify calling ANY running plays!

that's some weak azz schitt right there...