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eddie mac
01-15-2009, 03:52 PM
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/dec/28/broncos-might-be-looking-at-a-defensive-redo/

The club also could look to re- work the contract of defensive tackle Dewayne Robertson, who's owed a $17 million roster bonus, $10 million of which is guaranteed and can be converted to a signing bonus that is apportioned over several years.


This had better be a misprint and I've e-mailed both Rasizer and Legwold to comfirm it.

Everywhere else had Robertson's total of his 6 year contract only coming to $24m and nearly $14m has been accounted for his base salaries through 2013 and a $3m roster bonus last year.



The best about it is they state $10m of it's guaranteed. If this is true then what the **** where Shanahan/Goodman and even Bowlen thinking about when they dealt for this guy and his knees???

If this is indeed correct that's over 1/2 of our estimated $30m cap room gone up in smoke in one fatal swoop because this ludicrous figure was never mentioned anywhere before.

socalorado
01-15-2009, 03:57 PM
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/dec/28/broncos-might-be-looking-at-a-defensive-redo/

The club also could look to re- work the contract of defensive tackle Dewayne Robertson, who's owed a $17 million roster bonus, $10 million of which is guaranteed and can be converted to a signing bonus that is apportioned over several years.


This had better be a misprint and I've e-mailed both Rasizer and Legwold to comfirm it.

Everywhere else had Robertson's total of his 6 year contract only coming to $24m and nearly $14m has been accounted for his base salaries through 2013 and a $3m roster bonus last year.



The best about it is they state $10m of it's guaranteed. If this is true then what the **** where Shanahan/Goodman and even Bowlen thinking about when they dealt for this guy and his knees???

If this is indeed correct that's over 1/2 of our estimated $30m cap room gone up in smoke in one fatal swoop because this ludicrous figure was never mentioned anywhere before.

I thought DEN has 41 Million to spend?
Got this at Broncos Forums




http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...2009-offseason

If you are not a big fan of all of the financial mumbo-jumbo that goes on in the NFL, you are not alone.

In the wake of a $225 million dollar increase in the NFL's salary cap for 2009, the Denver Broncos are in great position to make a splash in a very strong free agency pool.

Currently, the Broncos rank 25th in the NFL with just under $99 million in salary for 2008. However, Dre' Bly accepted a pay cut at the beginning of this season, so that will free up another $4-to-5 million for the Broncos.

Rest assured, Denver will give a complete makeover to its defense, which ranked 30th in the NFL in 2008. That makeover could result in the departures of Marlon McCree, Vernon Fox, Marquand Manuel, Nate Webster, Boss Bailey, Ebenezer Ekuban, Kenny Peterson, John Engelberger, Niko Koutouvides, Dewayne Robertson, and Karl Paymah.

While I personally would retain Paymah, and possibly Webster out of that group, the rest may as well pack their bags. Those departures would leave the Broncos with a team salary of about $75 million, freeing up an astounding $50 million dollars in cap space.

Denver's nine draft picks will likely consume about $8-to-9 million of that cap space. Pat Bowlen's new GM and Head Coach will likely have $41 million dollars to spend on a new defense.

Inkana7
01-15-2009, 03:59 PM
$50 Million Dollars to play with?

TERRELL SUGGS.

eddie mac
01-15-2009, 04:04 PM
I thought DEN has 41 Million to spend?
Got this at Broncos Forums




http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...2009-offseason

If you are not a big fan of all of the financial mumbo-jumbo that goes on in the NFL, you are not alone.

In the wake of a $225 million dollar increase in the NFL's salary cap for 2009, the Denver Broncos are in great position to make a splash in a very strong free agency pool.

Currently, the Broncos rank 25th in the NFL with just under $99 million in salary for 2008. However, Dre' Bly accepted a pay cut at the beginning of this season, so that will free up another $4-to-5 million for the Broncos.

Rest assured, Denver will give a complete makeover to its defense, which ranked 30th in the NFL in 2008. That makeover could result in the departures of Marlon McCree, Vernon Fox, Marquand Manuel, Nate Webster, Boss Bailey, Ebenezer Ekuban, Kenny Peterson, John Engelberger, Niko Koutouvides, Dewayne Robertson, and Karl Paymah.

While I personally would retain Paymah, and possibly Webster out of that group, the rest may as well pack their bags. Those departures would leave the Broncos with a team salary of about $75 million, freeing up an astounding $50 million dollars in cap space.

Denver's nine draft picks will likely consume about $8-to-9 million of that cap space. Pat Bowlen's new GM and Head Coach will likely have $41 million dollars to spend on a new defense.

That article was written by an idiot who thinks you base your 2009 cap room on player's salaries from the year before.:rofl:

We were closer to $30m under before this Robertson rocket hit my cap dreams.

Hotrod
01-15-2009, 04:05 PM
Well it was nice knowin ya Dwayne

eddie mac
01-15-2009, 04:06 PM
Any new GM in Cleveland will be ****ing raging that he's been left with a $5m guaranteed roster bonus for Derek Anderson.

I'd love to see Nolan's face when he's told Robertson's on the books for a guaranteed $10m minimum (whether he's cut or not) and he's useless to us in a 3-4.

SonOfLe-loLang
01-15-2009, 04:07 PM
That article was written by an idiot who thinks you base your 2009 cap room on player's salaries from the year before.:rofl:

We were closer to $30m under before this Robertson rocket hit my cap dreams.

They'll never pay the bonus, he'll be cut

The Joker
01-15-2009, 04:07 PM
We're going to have to pay Marshall very soon, that won't be cheap.

Kuper and Scheffler will be kept too, they won't be mega bucks deals but they'll get a lot more than they earn now. Dumervil too if he can adjust to the 3-4, assuming we go with it.

So it's not like we can go out and spend mega bucks just because we have the cap room now.

I'll be disappointed if we don't pursue at least one marquee guy though, Suggs does seem the most logical fit with Nolan in as DC.

Florida_Bronco
01-15-2009, 04:08 PM
That can't be right.

Inkana7
01-15-2009, 04:08 PM
They'll never pay the bonus, he'll be cut

At least $10m is guarenteed. Unless that really is a misprint.

SonOfLe-loLang
01-15-2009, 04:08 PM
Any new GM in Cleveland will be ****ing raging that he's been left with a $5m guaranteed roster bonus for Derek Anderson.

I'd love to see Nolan's face when he's told Robertson's on the books for a guaranteed $10m minimum (whether he's cut or not) and he's useless to us in a 3-4.

I dont get the impression that its 10 million guaranteed if he's cut. i think its just if he stays on the team.

SonOfLe-loLang
01-15-2009, 04:10 PM
At least $10m is guarenteed. Unless that really is a misprint.

I think the 10 million is guarneteed within the roster bonus? I think? im not sure how that works, but it just cannot be accurate that they'd accept that. No football contracts are like that!

eddie mac
01-15-2009, 04:11 PM
I dont get the impression that its 10 million guaranteed if he's cut. i think its just if he stays on the team.

If it's guaranteed it means he gets it whether he's cut or not. Same with Javon Walker last season. Broncos had to pay Javon something like $3m odd to walk.

I'm hoping it's a misprint, if it isn't I'll be really ****ed off with our front office for what was a ludicrous contract offer for a player with so many medical issues.

Inkana7
01-15-2009, 04:11 PM
I think the 10 million is guarneteed within the roster bonus? I think? im not sure how that works, but it just cannot be accurate that they'd accept that. No football contracts are like that!

If it is true, he'll be owed 10 million dollars no matter what happens to him.

SonOfLe-loLang
01-15-2009, 04:13 PM
If it is true, he'll be owed 10 million dollars no matter what happens to him.

Granted, im hardly a capologist, but nfl contracts are so rarely guarenteed like that...i cant see how Dwayne robertson is the exception. I think its only if they pick up the bonus, which they wont.

Florida_Bronco
01-15-2009, 04:13 PM
If it's guaranteed it means he gets it whether he's cut or not. Same with Javon Walker last season. Broncos had to pay Javon something like $3m odd to walk.

I'm hoping it's a misprint, if it isn't I'll be really ****ed off with our front office for what was a ludicrous contract offer for a player with so many medical issues.

Eddie Mac, are these guys usually reliable with cap issues?

SonOfLe-loLang
01-15-2009, 04:13 PM
If it's guaranteed it means he gets it whether he's cut or not. Same with Javon Walker last season. Broncos had to pay Javon something like $3m odd to walk.

I'm hoping it's a misprint, if it isn't I'll be really ****ed off with our front office for what was a ludicrous contract offer for a player with so many medical issues.

I think it is..not a misprint as much as a poor choice of words. I dont think they'd ever have made a contract where he was guarenteed 10 million.

Rock Chalk
01-15-2009, 04:14 PM
So, our front office including Shanahan was really ****ing bad at this defensive FA business.

manchambo
01-15-2009, 04:16 PM
I thought DEN has 41 Million to spend?
Got this at Broncos Forums




http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...2009-offseason

If you are not a big fan of all of the financial mumbo-jumbo that goes on in the NFL, you are not alone.

In the wake of a $225 million dollar increase in the NFL's salary cap for 2009, the Denver Broncos are in great position to make a splash in a very strong free agency pool.

Currently, the Broncos rank 25th in the NFL with just under $99 million in salary for 2008. However, Dre' Bly accepted a pay cut at the beginning of this season, so that will free up another $4-to-5 million for the Broncos.

Rest assured, Denver will give a complete makeover to its defense, which ranked 30th in the NFL in 2008. That makeover could result in the departures of Marlon McCree, Vernon Fox, Marquand Manuel, Nate Webster, Boss Bailey, Ebenezer Ekuban, Kenny Peterson, John Engelberger, Niko Koutouvides, Dewayne Robertson, and Karl Paymah.

While I personally would retain Paymah, and possibly Webster out of that group, the rest may as well pack their bags. Those departures would leave the Broncos with a team salary of about $75 million, freeing up an astounding $50 million dollars in cap space.

Denver's nine draft picks will likely consume about $8-to-9 million of that cap space. Pat Bowlen's new GM and Head Coach will likely have $41 million dollars to spend on a new defense.

I wonder if cutting Boss will create any problems with Champ? I know if it was me, I'd have a hard time stomaching my team dumping my brother. Hard to be objective when family's involved . . .

Hotrod
01-15-2009, 04:20 PM
Lets see I'm on a team switching to the 3-4 which is not something I care for. I've got bad knees and they will want me to take a beating at NT. Yet I'm going to walk with atleast 10mil and they want me to rework my contract Bwhahahahahahaa

Hotrod
01-15-2009, 04:22 PM
Hey maybe this was are big surprise???

Hercules Rockefeller
01-15-2009, 04:25 PM
Denver's nine draft picks will likely consume about $8-to-9 million of that cap space.

Denver got around $4.9M when they picked at #12 last year, it's not going to be too much more this year.

frerottenextelway
01-15-2009, 04:29 PM
I think the 10 million is guarneteed within the roster bonus?


Yep. It's a typical bronco two-tier contract of having a big guarentee built in the second year to protect themselves in case he busts out the first year.

People are funny.

frerottenextelway
01-15-2009, 04:30 PM
The $17 million ($10 guarenteed) would be spread across the next 4 years if he makes the roster this upcoming year.

SonOfLe-loLang
01-15-2009, 04:31 PM
Yep. It's a typical bronco two-tier contract of having a big guarentee built in the second year to protect themselves in case he busts out the first year.

People are funny.

Yeah, thats what i figured. I knew he wouldnt get it if they didnt pick it up

AbileneBroncoFan
01-15-2009, 04:32 PM
At least $10m is guarenteed. Unless that really is a misprint.

Unless he's traded. Time to phone Al Davis.

Hotrod
01-15-2009, 04:37 PM
The $17 million ($10 guarenteed) would be spread across the next 4 years if he makes the roster this upcoming year.


Oh thank God

PRBronco
01-15-2009, 04:38 PM
Goodman: Dewayne, take a pay cut or we'll keep you and leave you marooned for all eternity, IN THE CENTER OF A DEAD 3 MAN DEFENSIVE FRONT.

Dewayne: Shaannnnnnny!!!! SHAAAAAAAANNNNNY!!!!

eddie mac
01-15-2009, 05:20 PM
The $17 million ($10 guarenteed) would be spread across the next 4 years if he makes the roster this upcoming year.

Dont be ridiculous. Paying an average DT and a non entity at NT for the 3-4, $17m in bonus money would be Al Davisesque.

The cap hit would be spread but Bowlen would have to hand over $17m in cash to him now if this is indeed the case.

You do realise that Bowlen only paid $90m odd in total payroll last year to his entire playing staff. That $17m would be probably half our FA budget cashwise for this season.

And why would anyone quote a part of the bonus being guaranteed if indeed it wont be paid regardless of whether Robertson remains on the roster or not on the date this said bonus is due???

It's one of 3 options here.

1. Either the RMN writers have quoted the wrong figures
2. They've used the wrong wording to describe the payment
3. He's on the books for $10m cash this year whether we cut his ass or not.

If it's the latter then we've made a right royal **** up of his deal and overpaid through our asses for a very average player who wouldn't pass a medical on any other team and is basically untradeable.

gyldenlove
01-15-2009, 05:41 PM
I don't think his 10 million is guaranteed, I have read the same number in other places, but I can't find where it originates from, it is always quoted but never from a credible source.

Considering we have paid him 4 million already, if we add 17 million to that that accounts for 21 of his 26 million, that just doesn't seem right.

snowspot66
01-15-2009, 05:49 PM
For the time frame that's Haynesworth type money. No way in hell that can be true.

elsid13
01-15-2009, 05:49 PM
Shanahan wasn't that stupid. It doesn't make sense, that he would structure the contract that way.

SonOfLe-loLang
01-15-2009, 05:53 PM
Dont be ridiculous. Paying an average DT and a non entity at NT for the 3-4, $17m in bonus money would be Al Davisesque.

The cap hit would be spread but Bowlen would have to hand over $17m in cash to him now if this is indeed the case.

You do realise that Bowlen only paid $90m odd in total payroll last year to his entire playing staff. That $17m would be probably half our FA budget cashwise for this season.

And why would anyone quote a part of the bonus being guaranteed if indeed it wont be paid regardless of whether Robertson remains on the roster or not on the date this said bonus is due???

It's one of 3 options here.

1. Either the RMN writers have quoted the wrong figures
2. They've used the wrong wording to describe the payment
3. He's on the books for $10m cash this year whether we cut his ass or not.

If it's the latter then we've made a right royal **** up of his deal and overpaid through our asses for a very average player who wouldn't pass a medical on any other team and is basically untradeable.

Id be willing to bet its improper wording

frerottenextelway
01-15-2009, 05:54 PM
Dont be ridiculous. Paying an average DT and a non entity at NT for the 3-4, $17m in bonus money would be Al Davisesque.

The cap hit would be spread but Bowlen would have to hand over $17m in cash to him now if this is indeed the case.

You do realise that Bowlen only paid $90m odd in total payroll last year to his entire playing staff. That $17m would be probably half our FA budget cashwise for this season.

And why would anyone quote a part of the bonus being guaranteed if indeed it wont be paid regardless of whether Robertson remains on the roster or not on the date this said bonus is due???

It's one of 3 options here.

1. Either the RMN writers have quoted the wrong figures
2. They've used the wrong wording to describe the payment
3. He's on the books for $10m cash this year whether we cut his ass or not.

If it's the latter then we've made a right royal **** up of his deal and overpaid through our asses for a very average player who wouldn't pass a medical on any other team and is basically untradeable.


Hilarious!

It is what I said it is, get a grip of yourself. He was paid a $3.1 mil roster bonus for 2008. Everything is going to be alright, promise.

Popcorn Sutton
01-15-2009, 09:48 PM
This just isn't right.

http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3377566&searchName=clayton_john&campaign=rsssrch&source=john+clayton&univLogin02=stateChanged&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fesp n%2fblog%2findex%3fentryID%3d3377566%26searchName% 3dclayton_john%26campaign%3drsssrch%26source%3djoh n%2bclayton%26univLogin02%3dstateChanged

Roster ready?: The Broncos signed former Jets defensive tackle Dewayne Robertson to a six-year, $24 million contract. But the deal is contingent on Robertson making the team. Robertson has a $900,000 base and a $3.1 million bonus if he makes the roster. The Broncos gave up a conditional pick to acquire Robertson. If he doesn't make the team, they may not have to give up a draft choice. But if he does well with the Broncos, the Jets could get as much as a third-round choice.

Popcorn Sutton
01-15-2009, 09:54 PM
Then again???

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_contract.aspx?sport=NFL&id=925

4/23/2008: Signed a six-year, $24 million contract. 2008: $900,000 (+ $3.1 million roster bonus), 2009: $900,000 (+ $17 million roster bonus?), 2010-2013: Under Contract, 2014: Free Agent. Cap charge: $4 million (2008).

rugbythug
01-15-2009, 10:06 PM
The Roster bonus has 10 million Guaranteed. The Problem for Dewayne is he will never see the Roster Bonus. Thus it won't be Guaranteed.

~Crash~
01-15-2009, 10:14 PM
We're going to have to pay Marshall very soon, that won't be cheap.
Kuper and Scheffler will be kept too, they won't be mega bucks deals but they'll get a lot more than they earn now. Dumervil too if he can adjust to the 3-4, assuming we go with it.

So it's not like we can go out and spend mega bucks just because we have the cap room now.

I'll be disappointed if we don't pursue at least one marquee guy though, Suggs does seem the most logical fit with Nolan in as DC.


Marshall ~ I would hold off and see how his hip is at the end of the season next year.

Dark Helmet
01-16-2009, 01:36 AM
We're going to have to pay Marshall very soon, that won't be cheap.

Kuper and Scheffler will be kept too, they won't be mega bucks deals but they'll get a lot more than they earn now. Dumervil too if he can adjust to the 3-4, assuming we go with it.

So it's not like we can go out and spend mega bucks just because we have the cap room now.

I'll be disappointed if we don't pursue at least one marquee guy though, Suggs does seem the most logical fit with Nolan in as DC.

I heard that the paycheck for Marshall and Scheffler won't be quite as big due to injury and Marshall's run ins with the fuzz.

HEAV
01-16-2009, 06:35 AM
I think we all kknew it was a one year rent and see deal with Dwayne.

Now a 3-4 means he's gone.

Denver724
01-16-2009, 08:14 AM
Dont be ridiculous. Paying an average DT and a non entity at NT for the 3-4, $17m in bonus money would be Al Davisesque.

The cap hit would be spread but Bowlen would have to hand over $17m in cash to him now if this is indeed the case.

You do realise that Bowlen only paid $90m odd in total payroll last year to his entire playing staff. That $17m would be probably half our FA budget cashwise for this season.

And why would anyone quote a part of the bonus being guaranteed if indeed it wont be paid regardless of whether Robertson remains on the roster or not on the date this said bonus is due???

It's one of 3 options here.

1. Either the RMN writers have quoted the wrong figures
2. They've used the wrong wording to describe the payment
3. He's on the books for $10m cash this year whether we cut his ass or not.

If it's the latter then we've made a right royal **** up of his deal and overpaid through our asses for a very average player who wouldn't pass a medical on any other team and is basically untradeable.

I thought that I read somewhere that he gets the $17 million if he played a certain percentage of the snaps. There was a % for the draft pick and a % for a roster bonus. I will see if I can find the link.

eddie mac
01-16-2009, 07:27 PM
I thought that I read somewhere that he gets the $17 million if he played a certain percentage of the snaps. There was a % for the draft pick and a % for a roster bonus. I will see if I can find the link.

Dunno where you read that but you were spot on. $10m was guaranteed and payable if D-Rob hit the 65% of snaps that would've also given the Jets a draft pick.

This has now been confirmed by Lee Rasizer at RMN via e-mail so he indeed does have a $17m roster bonus but he'll either be cut and receive nothing more or he'll play for a hell of a lot less than that figure.

Natedogg
01-16-2009, 07:50 PM
Dunno where you read that but you were spot on. $10m was guaranteed and payable if D-Rob hit the 65% of snaps that would've also given the Jets a draft pick.

This has now been confirmed by Lee Rasizer at RMN via e-mail so he indeed does have a $17m roster bonus but he'll either be cut and receive nothing more or he'll play for a hell of a lot less than that figure.

Sorry, I'm dumb. If we cut him do we still have to pay him 17 million?

eddie mac
01-16-2009, 07:59 PM
Sorry, I'm dumb. If we cut him do we still have to pay him 17 million?

No. If we cut Robertson this year he doesn't cost us a dime nor does he leave any dead money on the cap.

BroncoBuff
01-16-2009, 08:02 PM
I think we all kknew it was a one year rent and see deal with Dwayne.

Now a 3-4 means he's gone.I dunno, he's the only experienced NT on the roster. I bet they re-work his deal.

elsid13
01-16-2009, 08:40 PM
No. If we cut Robertson this year he doesn't cost us a dime nor does he leave any dead money on the cap.

So can we admit that Shanahan knew what he was doing when got Robinson?

summerdenver
01-16-2009, 08:58 PM
Dunno where you read that but you were spot on. $10m was guaranteed and payable if D-Rob hit the 65% of snaps that would've also given the Jets a draft pick.

This has now been confirmed by Lee Rasizer at RMN via e-mail so he indeed does have a $17m roster bonus but he'll either be cut and receive nothing more or he'll play for a hell of a lot less than that figure.

Thanks for clearing that up.

bpc
01-16-2009, 09:44 PM
phew. Thanks Eddie Mac.

socalorado
01-16-2009, 09:55 PM
No. If we cut Robertson this year he doesn't cost us a dime nor does he leave any dead money on the cap.

Sigh of relief! WHEW!
Now Eddie, how much coin does DEN have for FA?
And thanks for clearing that up by the way!:strong:

~Crash~
01-16-2009, 10:59 PM
I dunno, he's the only experienced NT on the roster. I bet they re-work his deal.


if we go 3-4 he is sooooooooooooooooooo gone .

SoCalBronco
01-17-2009, 12:01 AM
No. If we cut Robertson this year he doesn't cost us a dime nor does he leave any dead money on the cap.

That's a sigh of relief.

I was about to suggest that Xanders's dick be set up on a blind date.

With a vat of boiling motor oil.

eddie mac
01-17-2009, 04:58 AM
Sigh of relief! WHEW!
Now Eddie, how much coin does DEN have for FA?
And thanks for clearing that up by the way!:strong:

Officially as the cap stands, counting the roster bonus we'd only be around $12m-$15m under the cap. However cutting Robertson clears $17m plus. So we're still looking at anything from approx $28m-$32m.

The cap isn't the issue here though as Klis states in the Denver Post last week. It's how much cash Bowlen is prepared to invest in the hands of his young Head Coach.

I look at it more from the point of view of cash outlay in any cap year much like the Buffalo Bills work their cap.

This is what Bowlen spent on players in the last 2 years and what he currently has on the books for 2009 minus Robertson's $18m total.

2007 $102m
2008 $98.5m
2009 $73m allocated thus far inc base salaries/and all bonuses hitting in 09

Here are the biggest earners for 09 and their cap hits

DJ Williams, cash $14m, cap $6m (This is based on DJ getting $10m in bonuses in 09 which has never been confirmed anywhere)
Champ cash $8.5m, cap $13.2m
Bly cash $6.65m, cap $7.9m
Clady, cash $5.5m, cap $3m
Hamilton, cash $3.9m, cap $4.8m
Graham, cash $3.4m, cap $6.65m
Boss Bailey, cash $3m, cap $3.85m
Koutouvides, cash $2.4m, cap $3m
Marshall, cash $2.2m, cap $2.3m
Winborn, cash $2.25m, cap $2.25m
Engelberger, cash $1.63m, cap $2.08m


I'll be doing a more in depth analysis of our current cap/financial situation within the next couple of weeks in the build up to free agency.

elsid13
01-17-2009, 06:27 AM
That's a sigh of relief.

I was about to suggest that Xanders's dick be set up on a blind date.

With a vat of boiling motor oil.

What is it with you and penises lately. There is the 15 inch aids pulsing ding-dong, and now a Xander's pulling an America Pie date with boiling motor oil.

TonyR
01-17-2009, 09:23 AM
Here are the biggest earners for 09 and their cap hits

DJ Williams, cash $14m, cap $6m (This is based on DJ getting $10m in bonuses in 09 which has never been confirmed anywhere)
Champ cash $8.5m, cap $13.2m
Bly cash $6.65m, cap $7.9m
Clady, cash $5.5m, cap $3m
Hamilton, cash $3.9m, cap $4.8m
Graham, cash $3.4m, cap $6.65m
Boss Bailey, cash $3m, cap $3.85m
Koutouvides, cash $2.4m, cap $3m
Marshall, cash $2.2m, cap $2.3m
Winborn, cash $2.25m, cap $2.25m
Engelberger, cash $1.63m, cap $2.08m


To the extent possible, those bolded above need to be reduced. I hope we don't ***k up in FA on defensive players this year as badly as we did last year. Seeing Niko as one of our top 10 cap hits is an abomination.

socalorado
01-17-2009, 10:47 AM
Officially as the cap stands, counting the roster bonus we'd only be around $12m-$15m under the cap. However cutting Robertson clears $17m plus. So we're still looking at anything from approx $28m-$32m.

The cap isn't the issue here though as Klis states in the Denver Post last week. It's how much cash Bowlen is prepared to invest in the hands of his young Head Coach.

I look at it more from the point of view of cash outlay in any cap year much like the Buffalo Bills work their cap.

This is what Bowlen spent on players in the last 2 years and what he currently has on the books for 2009 minus Robertson's $18m total.

2007 $102m
2008 $98.5m
2009 $73m allocated thus far inc base salaries/and all bonuses hitting in 09

Here are the biggest earners for 09 and their cap hits

DJ Williams, cash $14m, cap $6m (This is based on DJ getting $10m in bonuses in 09 which has never been confirmed anywhere)
Champ cash $8.5m, cap $13.2m
Bly cash $6.65m, cap $7.9m
Clady, cash $5.5m, cap $3m
Hamilton, cash $3.9m, cap $4.8m
Graham, cash $3.4m, cap $6.65m
Boss Bailey, cash $3m, cap $3.85m
Koutouvides, cash $2.4m, cap $3m
Marshall, cash $2.2m, cap $2.3m
Winborn, cash $2.25m, cap $2.25m
Engelberger, cash $1.63m, cap $2.08m


I'll be doing a more in depth analysis of our current cap/financial situation within the next couple of weeks in the build up to free agency.

Thanks! This helps :strong: