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Bob's your Information Minister
01-13-2009, 01:33 PM
Watch your futures....end....

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3830515


Sources: Pioli to join Chiefs

New England Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli has agreed to become head of football operations for the Kansas City Chiefs, two NFL sources confirmed to ESPN's Michael Smith.

Pioli was seen packing up his office Tuesday afternoon, a Patriots source said.

Patriots director of player personnel Nick Caserio will replace Scott Pioli as vice president of player personnel, league sources told ESPN.

Pioli, 43, is close to Patriots coach Bill Belichick and has been with the Patriots for nine years.

Pioli should find a warm welcome in Kansas City. At the last Chiefs home game, shortly after the embattled Carl Peterson resigned after 20 years as president, general manager and CEO, several signs were spotted in the crowd proclaiming, "We want Pioli."

DomCasual
01-13-2009, 01:34 PM
Watch your futures....end....

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3830515

More like watch Herm's future....end.

Pick Six
01-13-2009, 01:36 PM
Kansas City may have New England's GM, but we have their offensive coordinator. SO THERE!

Man-Goblin
01-13-2009, 01:36 PM
Hmmmm, chances are if McDaniels were still available the price for him may have just gone up...

Inkana7
01-13-2009, 01:36 PM
Good for them. Some competition in the division would be nice, if Pioli can start drafting players who stick around for at least a year again.

theAPAOps5
01-13-2009, 01:39 PM
Can he coach? Nope
Can he play? Nope

Eh whats there to worry about.

Bob's your Information Minister
01-13-2009, 01:40 PM
Can he coach? Nope
Can he play? Nope

Eh whats there to worry about.

Are you really this retarded?

Broncoman13
01-13-2009, 01:40 PM
Hmmmm, chances are if McDaniels were still available the price for him may have just gone up...

Pioli didn't think McD was as ready as Ferentz

bronco militia
01-13-2009, 01:41 PM
Spags is rumored to be the Chiefs guy

Inkana7
01-13-2009, 01:41 PM
Are you really this retarded?

He's drafted one impact player since 2005.

Man-Goblin
01-13-2009, 01:42 PM
You're probably right. But there were plenty of reports linking Pioli and McDaniels. I hope the Chiefs go the college route, actually.

Tombstone RJ
01-13-2009, 01:42 PM
he sucks drafting... but ok.

Bob's your Information Minister
01-13-2009, 01:45 PM
He's drafted one impact player since 2005.

It's impossible to know who was calling the shots.

All I know is we just replaced a loser GM with a proven winner from the NFL's marquee franchise.

The Chiefs are on an incline. Now we can drop Herm back down the slope.

Rocky Mountain Stampede
01-13-2009, 01:45 PM
He's drafted one impact player since 2005.

You're right. Lots of scrubs on this list.

2008 - New England Patriots

1 10 Jerod Mayo OLB Tennessee
2 62 Terrence Wheatley CB Colorado
3 78 Shawn Crable OLB Michigan
3 94 Kevin O'Connell QB San Diego State
4 129 Jonathan Wilhite CB Auburn
5 153 Matt Slater WR UCLA
6 197 Bo Ruud LB Nebraska

2007 - New England Patriots

1 24 Brandon Meriweather DB Miami (Fla.)
4 127 Kareem Brown DT Miami (Fla.)
5 171 Clint Oldenburg T Colorado State
6 180 Justin Rogers LB Southern Methodist
6 202 Mike Richardson DB Notre Dame
6 208 Justise Hairston RB Central Connecticut State
6 209 Corey Hilliard OT Oklahoma State
7 211 Oscar Lua LB USC
7 247 Mike Elgin G Iowa

2006 - New England Patriots

1 21 Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota
2 36 Chad Jackson WR Florida
3 86 David Thomas TE Texas
4 106 Garrett Mills RB Tulsa
4 118 Stephen Gostkowski K Memphis
5 136 Ryan O'Callaghan T California
6 191 Jeremy Mincey LB Florida
6 205 Dan Stevenson G Notre Dame
6 206 Le Kevin Smith DT Nebraska
7 229 Willie Andrews CB Baylor

KCStud
01-13-2009, 01:45 PM
Can he coach? Nope
Can he play? Nope

Eh whats there to worry about.

Funny you say that considering 3 of NE's so called best coaches throughout their best years are failures at other teams, but the first person to leave the front office (Dimitroff), has been a huge success for his team in Atlanta.

Bronco fans probably won't admit it, but this was a hell of a move by Clark and KC.
Pioli is an excellent talent evaluator and has done wonders for NE. He is a HUGE upgrade to KC and nobody can argue it.

Kaylore
01-13-2009, 01:46 PM
I'll wait and see who they replace Herm with before I start worrying. We have our GM and Coach and we're just fine.

Bob's your Information Minister
01-13-2009, 01:46 PM
We have our GM and Coach and we're just fine.

When was the last time you guys made the playoffs, again? It's been so long...

LOL

Inkana7
01-13-2009, 01:47 PM
Funny you say that considering 3 of NE's so called best coaches throughout their best years are failures at other teams, but the first person to leave the front office (Dimitroff), has been a huge success for his team in Atlanta.

Bronco fans probably won't admit it, but this was a hell of a move by Clark and KC.
Pioli is an excellent talent evaluator and has done wonders for NE. He is a HUGE upgrade to KC and nobody can argue it.

I can. Carl's done a better drafting than Pioli over the past 3 seasons.

jhat01
01-13-2009, 01:49 PM
Eat another sandwich boob. Perogi is not going to save your franchise.

Rocky Mountain Stampede
01-13-2009, 01:49 PM
When was the last time you guys made the playoffs, again? It's been so long...

LOL

Two can play this game...


When was the last time you guys had a .500 or better record? It's been so long...

When was the last time you guys won the AFC West? It's been so long...

When was the last time you guys won a playoff game? It's been so long...

When was the last time you guys played in a conference championship game? It's been so long...

When was the last time you guys won a conference championship? Ah, ah, never...

When was the last time you guys won a Super Bowl? It's been so long...

ZachKC
01-13-2009, 01:50 PM
Great hire.

KCStud
01-13-2009, 01:50 PM
I can. Carl's done a better drafting than Pioli over the past 3 seasons.

Someone's picking their stats. How about we look at the nine years Pioli has had the job. It's not even close

Hotrod
01-13-2009, 01:51 PM
When was the last time you guys made the playoffs, again? It's been so long...

LOL

A chef fan talking playoff smack Ha!

I guess you can start a thread like

"The red knight will save us"

or

"Our punter will **** you up"

Another offseason and somethings never change

TheReverend
01-13-2009, 01:51 PM
He's drafted one impact player since 2005.

Meanwhile, Carl had the "OMG BEST DRAFT IN 2008!!!!!!!!!!1111"

Silly Condiments fans.

Rohirrim
01-13-2009, 01:52 PM
Of course, they could have brought in a hood ornament and it would have been an improvement over Peterson. Pioli is a good hire for the Chefs. It will make it all the more pleasurable to kick your asses in the future. Too bad Pioli is bald. Maybe he can rent a mullet toupee?

Beantown Bronco
01-13-2009, 01:52 PM
Bronco fans probably won't admit it, but this was a hell of a move by Clark and KC.
Pioli is an excellent talent evaluator and has done wonders for NE.

Check some of the posts about him before he was even a serious consideration for the KC gig. Then you will find our true feelings.

Plenty were pointing out the obvious flaws for a long time now. The recent drafts are just too easy. But there is also evidence that the more successful recent moves in FA and through trades (namely Welker and Moss) were in no way due to his initiating them.

The guy has gotten more credit for the Pats' success than anyone not named Belichick. And you know what? It's becoming more and more clear to me that he doesn't deserve it.

As you yourself love pointing out, Dimitroff has had real success drafting since he left. But the Pats' have been less impressive. Hardly a coincidence.

TheReverend
01-13-2009, 01:53 PM
Maybe Pioli can fall ass first into another HoF QB...?

...and coach, for that matter?

cmhargrove
01-13-2009, 01:53 PM
Honestly, I would rather be fighting it out in the AFC West with the Chiefs than the Chargers.

He should be good for the team, it'll be very interesting to see if there are any coaching changes in the next week or two.

Rohirrim
01-13-2009, 01:54 PM
Scott's first pick will be whoever is the backup QB at Michigan.

TheReverend
01-13-2009, 01:55 PM
Scott's first pick will be whoever is the backup QB at Michigan.

In the first round.

Inkana7
01-13-2009, 01:55 PM
Someone's picking their stats. How about we look at the nine years Pioli has had the job. It's not even close

Last I checked, the last 3 years are closer to the present than the last 6 years. I could be wrong though.

KCStud
01-13-2009, 01:56 PM
Rumors are now that Steve Spagnoulu is the top candidate for HC. Not even Donko fans can bash him because you wanted him as your coach

Bob's your Information Minister
01-13-2009, 01:56 PM
Last I checked, the last 3 years are closer to the present than the last 6 years. I could be wrong though.

No, you're correct. Neither the Broncos or Scott Pioli have accomplished jack in the last three years.

Inkana7
01-13-2009, 01:57 PM
No, you're correct. Neither the Broncos or Scott Pioli have accomplished jack in the last three years.

But the Broncos drafts have been Oh so much better than Piloli's.

KCStud
01-13-2009, 01:57 PM
Last I checked, the last 3 years are closer to the present than the last 6 years. I could be wrong though.

You are completely wrong. It takes 3 years to see how a draft turns out. Grading the 2008 draft right now is simply retarded

Garcia Bronco
01-13-2009, 01:57 PM
He'll break off 2k in the Chiefs system

Bob's your Information Minister
01-13-2009, 01:58 PM
But the Broncos drafts have been Oh so much better than Piloli's.

All that a bag of chips will buy you three non-playoff seasons.

MagicHef
01-13-2009, 01:58 PM
No, you're correct. Neither the Broncos or Scott Pioli have accomplished jack in the last three years.

Deflection.

Mountain Bronco
01-13-2009, 01:58 PM
Good hire for KC, but I don't think Pioli is the savior without Cheater Bill and the New England Organization. Hopefully he does well enough to provide a good division, but not well enough to win it.

KCStud
01-13-2009, 01:58 PM
But the Broncos drafts have been Oh so much better than Piloli's.

My god your homerism is astronomical. You can't even admit when a team makes a good hire

Bob's your Information Minister
01-13-2009, 01:58 PM
Deflection.

This whole ****ing thread is a deflection. Eat my ass! :egbgb:

Inkana7
01-13-2009, 01:58 PM
My god your homerism is astronomical. You can't even admit when a team makes a good hire

Tell me I'm wrong.

Rocky Mountain Stampede
01-13-2009, 02:00 PM
All that a bag of chips will buy you three non-playoff seasons.

24-24 > 15-33

DomCasual
01-13-2009, 02:00 PM
My god your homerism is astronomical. You can't even admit when a team makes a good hire

I think it's a great hire. I'm surprised they pulled it off. Two months ago, you were sitting with Carl and Herm. In a couple weeks, you could well have Pioli and Spagnuolo. Upgrades don't get much bigger than that.

Beantown Bronco
01-13-2009, 02:00 PM
You are completely wrong. It takes 3 years to see how a draft turns out. Grading the 2008 draft right now is simply retarded

It's easy to grade a recent Pats draft because they have literally outright cut so many within two years of being drafted. They don't even put them on the practice squad. They outright cut them. It's pretty comical, really.

I'm not joking. Feel free to check their roster. It's still a little early for 2008, but the 2006 and 2007 drafts can most certainly be graded now.

Bob's your Information Minister
01-13-2009, 02:01 PM
24-24 > 15-33

Scott Pioli will be hoisting a Lombardi before that punk McDaniels.

Beantown Bronco
01-13-2009, 02:01 PM
Rumors are now that Steve Spagnoulu is the top candidate for HC. Not even Donko fans can bash him because you wanted him as your coach

Sure we can. Show me one thread or one poll on here that was unanimously in favor of bringing him in as a HC.

Good luck.

Inkana7
01-13-2009, 02:02 PM
Scott Pioli will be hoisting a Lombardi before that punk McDaniels.

Right.

Peoples Champ
01-13-2009, 02:02 PM
Must have gotten a huge pay increase, thats the only way i can see myself leaving Boston for Kansas City

Beantown Bronco
01-13-2009, 02:02 PM
Scott Pioli will be hoisting a Lombardi before that punk McDaniels.

Because he'll come to his senses and leave KC before McDaniels is on season 3 in Denver.

Kaylore
01-13-2009, 02:02 PM
You are completely wrong. It takes 3 years to see how a draft turns out. Grading the 2008 draft right now is simply retarded

Ok then grade the '06 draft

1 21 Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota
2 36 Chad Jackson WR Florida
3 86 David Thomas TE Texas
4 106 Garrett Mills RB Tulsa
4 118 Stephen Gostkowski K Memphis
5 136 Ryan O'Callaghan T California
6 191 Jeremy Mincey LB Florida
6 205 Dan Stevenson G Notre Dame
6 206 Le Kevin Smith DT Nebraska
7 229 Willie Andrews CB Baylor

One starter and its the Kicker.

Awesome drafting.

jhat01
01-13-2009, 02:02 PM
Maybe Pioli can fall ass first into another HoF QB...?

...and coach, for that matter?

I'm sure he will fall tits first into another hoagie. He needs a breast reduction, look at those things!

supermanhr9
01-13-2009, 02:03 PM
Insane if this is true. Must be making the big money

oubronco
01-13-2009, 02:04 PM
Are you really this retarded?

word around here is YOU are

cmhargrove
01-13-2009, 02:05 PM
Scott Pioli will be hoisting a Lombardi before that punk McDaniels.

Snicker....

ZachKC
01-13-2009, 02:05 PM
Maybe Pioli can fall ass first into another HoF QB...?

...and coach, for that matter?

This place is great.

Inkana7
01-13-2009, 02:05 PM
Ok then grade the '06 draft

1 21 Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota
2 36 Chad Jackson WR Florida
3 86 David Thomas TE Texas
4 106 Garrett Mills RB Tulsa
4 118 Stephen Gostkowski K Memphis
5 136 Ryan O'Callaghan T California
6 191 Jeremy Mincey LB Florida
6 205 Dan Stevenson G Notre Dame
6 206 Le Kevin Smith DT Nebraska
7 229 Willie Andrews CB Baylor

One starter and its the Kicker.

Awesome drafting.
To be fair, that kicker made the Pro Bowl. :thumbs:

barryr
01-13-2009, 02:05 PM
Chief fans have nothing to talk about. The Chiefs haven't even been to a Super Bowl in 30+ years, much less won one. Until you do sometime this century, leave your weak smack crap at home.

Bob's your Information Minister
01-13-2009, 02:06 PM
I'm sure he will fall boobies first into another hoagie. He needs a breast reduction, look at those things!

Must have been the barbecue...

Rocky Mountain Stampede
01-13-2009, 02:06 PM
This place is great.

Refer all gay prostitutes here:

zachishere.com

footstepsfrom#27
01-13-2009, 02:06 PM
Sucks to be him.

theAPAOps5
01-13-2009, 02:07 PM
Are you really this retarded?

No just posting at your level.

ZachKC
01-13-2009, 02:08 PM
Chief fans have nothing to talk about. The Chiefs haven't even been to a Super Bowl in 30+ years, much less won one. Until you do sometime this century, leave your weak smack crap at home.

You have been to the Superbowl this century?

Kaylore
01-13-2009, 02:08 PM
To be fair, that kicker made the Pro Bowl. :thumbs:

And the Chiefs need a kicker!

Take it back, all of you. This was an awesome hire!

theAPAOps5
01-13-2009, 02:09 PM
You have been to the Superbowl this century?

Yeah you got him there Zach I mean you went to the Superbowl, oh never mind that won't support your cause...

ZachKC
01-13-2009, 02:10 PM
Refer all gay prostitutes here:



People mainly use it for photography purposes.

snowspot66
01-13-2009, 02:10 PM
You'd think Bob would stop posting these threads. He's had some 90% come back to bite him in the ass. Wasn't he pimping the punter they drafted one year?

ZachKC
01-13-2009, 02:11 PM
Yeah you got him there Zach I mean you went to the Superbowl, oh never mind that won't support your cause...

Not looking to get him or anything, the post just made it sound like you folks had been to the SB in this century.

You are kind of a sensitive poster...really jumpy. When did that happen?

Maybe you can say something else stupid and apologize for it later again?

Bob's your Information Minister
01-13-2009, 02:11 PM
You'd think Bob would stop posting these threads. He's had some 90% come back to bite him in the ass. Wasn't he pimping the punter they drafted one year?

Yes, I was. He turned out to be an awesome franchise punter.

Hotrod
01-13-2009, 02:12 PM
You'd think Bob would stop posting these threads. He's had some 90% come back to bite him in the ass. Wasn't he pimping the punter they drafted one year?

The classic "our punter will **** you up" thread.

Inkana7
01-13-2009, 02:12 PM
Yes, I was. He turned out to be an awesome franchise punter.

And Larry "Get me outta here" Johnson?

Rocky Mountain Stampede
01-13-2009, 02:12 PM
Yes, I was. He turned out to be an awesome franchise punter.

At best, Colquitt is the third best punter in the division. Franchise punter my ass.

Bob's your Information Minister
01-13-2009, 02:13 PM
At best, Colquitt is the third best punter in the division. Franchise punter my ass.

So? He kicks ass.

Beantown Bronco
01-13-2009, 02:13 PM
Yes, I was. He turned out to be an awesome franchise punter.

Sad part is, you truly believe that, even though he may be the worst in the division.

ZachKC
01-13-2009, 02:14 PM
Punter hasn't been a problem at all.

Bob's your Information Minister
01-13-2009, 02:15 PM
I love this board. We're talking about a franchise punter in a Scott Pioli thread.

Someone start a John Elway thread. I want to talk about...um....Dick Vermeil.

ZachKC
01-13-2009, 02:15 PM
zachishere.com

Linkage.

Nice.

Rocky Mountain Stampede
01-13-2009, 02:20 PM
What matters is that Pioli has his work cut out for him.

The Chiefs had lost their 14th game, and their defense didn’t end the season with much to boast about.

They allowed more yards than every other team but 0-16 Detroit. They set the record for fewest number of sacks in a 16-game season with 10, three short of the 27-year-old mark set by the Baltimore Colts.

“That’s awful,” defensive end Jason Babin said. “Atrocious.”

Babin had a sack Sunday in the Chiefs’ 16-6 loss to Cincinnati. It was his second sack since the Chiefs signed him seven weeks earlier. In less than half a season, Babin finished with a fifth of Kansas City’s sacks.

KCStud
01-13-2009, 02:20 PM
LMAO at Donko fans. Pioli is a hot commodity for a reason.
NFL Executive of the Year in 03 and 04.
Has drafted a number of pro bowlers in his reign at NE.
One of the top men to build a team up to win 3 SB's

Pioli and Spags would be a very lethal combo and you know it.

I would take Pioli over McDaniels anyday of the week.

Garcia Bronco
01-13-2009, 02:21 PM
LMAO at Donko fans. Pioli is a hot commodity for a reason.
NFL Executive of the Year in 03 and 04.
Has drafted a number of pro bowlers in his reign at NE.
One of the top men to build a team up to win 3 SB's

With a video camera. We have this same problem here when people talk about McDaniels and the NE success. Yet they all seem to forget the video camera.

Rocky Mountain Stampede
01-13-2009, 02:22 PM
LMAO at Donko fans. Pioli is a hot commodity for a reason.
NFL Executive of the Year in 03 and 04.
Has drafted a number of pro bowlers in his reign at NE.
One of the top men to build a team up to win 3 SB's

Hot commodity? How many teams did he interview with? One?

The Browns chose Mangini over him:rofl:

KCStud
01-13-2009, 02:22 PM
With a video camera. We have this same problem here when people talk about McDaniels and the NE success. Yet they all seem to forget the video camera.

Well I guess it goes to show ya that NE's success is not overseen by the NFL

KCStud
01-13-2009, 02:23 PM
Hot commodity? How many teams did he interview with? One?

The Browns chose Mangini over him:rofl:

Ummm...he got big offers from Seattle and Atlanta too nimrod. He's turned teams down

TheReverend
01-13-2009, 02:24 PM
I love this board. We're talking about a franchise punter in a Scott Pioli thread.

Someone start a John Elway thread. I want to talk about...um....Dick Vermeil.

There's two words I NEVER thought I'd hear grouped together....

Beantown Bronco
01-13-2009, 02:24 PM
LMAO at Donko fans. Pioli is a hot commodity for a reason.

So was Herman Edwards.

NFL Executive of the Year in 03 and 04.

Lot's of dust on those awards.

Has drafted a number of pro bowlers in his reign at NE.

Others were responsible for those picks. Ask Atlanta. They obviously did their homework before offering a position to someone in the Pats front office.

Inkana7
01-13-2009, 02:25 PM
LMAO at Donko fans. Pioli is a hot commodity for a reason.
NFL Executive of the Year in 03 and 04.
Has drafted a number of pro bowlers in his reign at NE.
One of the top men to build a team up to win 3 SB's

Pioli and Spags would be a very lethal combo and you know it.

I would take Pioli over McDaniels anyday of the week.

Really? I'd think that McDaniels is a far superior coach than Pioli. I mean, has the dude even ever been a coordinator?

Kaylore
01-13-2009, 02:26 PM
Why do Chiefs come here looking for validation?

Rocky Mountain Stampede
01-13-2009, 02:26 PM
Pioli and Spags would be a very lethal combo and you know it.

Spags is a northeast guy who loves being close to his family. He's not going to KC.

TheReverend
01-13-2009, 02:27 PM
I'm sure he will fall boobies first into another hoagie. He needs a breast reduction, look at those things!

Holy **** please tell me thats photo shop dude!

Bob's your Information Minister
01-13-2009, 02:28 PM
Why do Chiefs come here looking for validation?

Actually we come here to taste your tears. There's no greater concentration of Bronco fan tears on the internet than OrangeMane.com. So salty!

TheReverend
01-13-2009, 02:28 PM
Why do Chiefs come here looking for validation?

Because they don't have any modern history with success so they need it validated somewhere.

TheReverend
01-13-2009, 02:28 PM
Actually we come here to taste your tears. There's no greater concentration of Bronco fan tears on the internet than OrangeMane.com. So salty!

Yours are suspiciously Crisco flavored.

KCStud
01-13-2009, 02:29 PM
Ok then grade the '06 draft

1 21 Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota
2 36 Chad Jackson WR Florida
3 86 David Thomas TE Texas
4 106 Garrett Mills RB Tulsa
4 118 Stephen Gostkowski K Memphis
5 136 Ryan O'Callaghan T California
6 191 Jeremy Mincey LB Florida
6 205 Dan Stevenson G Notre Dame
6 206 Le Kevin Smith DT Nebraska
7 229 Willie Andrews CB Baylor

One starter and its the Kicker.

Awesome drafting.

Ok, two can play this game. Let's see who has drafted better since Pioli has had his job...


Pioli

Tom Brady
Matt Cassell
Richard Seymour
Matt Light
Daniel Graham
Jarvis Green
Ty Warren
Eugene Wilson
Dan Klecko
Asante Samuel
Marquise Hill (RIP)
Vince Wilfork
Ben Watson
Logan Mankins
Ellis Hobbs
Stephen Gotskowski
Jerod Mayo
Laurence Maroney
Brandon Merriweather

King Carl

??????????

ZachKC
01-13-2009, 02:30 PM
Because they don't have any modern history with success so they need it validated somewhere.

Dynasty.

TheReverend
01-13-2009, 02:30 PM
Ok, two can play this game. Let's see who has drafted better since Pioli has had his job...


Pioli

Tom Brady
Matt Cassell
Richard Seymour
Matt Light
Daniel Graham
Jarvis Green
Ty Warren
Eugene Wilson
Dan Klecko
Asante Samuel
Marquise Hill (RIP)
Vince Wilfork
Ben Watson
Logan Mankins
Ellis Hobbs
Stephen Gotskowski
Jerod Mayo
Laurence Maroney
Brandon Merriweather

King Carl

??????????

Giving credit to Pioli for the Brady pick is like giving credit to the guy who "picks" the right Lotto numbers...

Inkana7
01-13-2009, 02:30 PM
Ok, two can play this game. Let's see who has drafted better since Pioli has had his job...


Pioli

Tom Brady
Matt Cassell
Richard Seymour
Matt Light
Daniel Graham
Jarvis Green
Ty Warren
Eugene Wilson
Dan Klecko
Asante Samuel
Marquise Hill (RIP)
Vince Wilfork
Ben Watson
Logan Mankins
Ellis Hobbs
Stephen Gotskowski
Jerod Mayo
Laurence Maroney
Brandon Merriweather

King Carl

??????????

Wow dude, prior to this you were all "OMG chefs hd da best draft evar!!!" *orgasm*

Way to flip flop. Impressive.

TheReverend
01-13-2009, 02:31 PM
Dynasty.

Sure. Get your Tom Brady and Bill Belicek in place and then we can humor a discussion about it. You're not one of the unreasonable trolls, so that sounds fair, doesn't it?

Rocky Mountain Stampede
01-13-2009, 02:31 PM
Ummm...he got big offers from Seattle and Atlanta too nimrod. He's turned teams down

Get your facts straight. The Falcons never offered him a contract let alone an interview. He turned down Seattle because they wouldn't give him full control.

How many teams were courting him this offseason?

KCStud
01-13-2009, 02:32 PM
You're right. Lots of scrubs on this list.

2008 - New England Patriots

1 10 Jerod Mayo OLB Tennessee
2 62 Terrence Wheatley CB Colorado
3 78 Shawn Crable OLB Michigan
3 94 Kevin O'Connell QB San Diego State
4 129 Jonathan Wilhite CB Auburn
5 153 Matt Slater WR UCLA
6 197 Bo Ruud LB Nebraska

2007 - New England Patriots

1 24 Brandon Meriweather DB Miami (Fla.)
4 127 Kareem Brown DT Miami (Fla.)
5 171 Clint Oldenburg T Colorado State
6 180 Justin Rogers LB Southern Methodist
6 202 Mike Richardson DB Notre Dame
6 208 Justise Hairston RB Central Connecticut State
6 209 Corey Hilliard OT Oklahoma State
7 211 Oscar Lua LB USC
7 247 Mike Elgin G Iowa

2006 - New England Patriots

1 21 Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota
2 36 Chad Jackson WR Florida
3 86 David Thomas TE Texas
4 106 Garrett Mills RB Tulsa
4 118 Stephen Gostkowski K Memphis
5 136 Ryan O'Callaghan T California
6 191 Jeremy Mincey LB Florida
6 205 Dan Stevenson G Notre Dame
6 206 Le Kevin Smith DT Nebraska
7 229 Willie Andrews CB Baylor

Ummm....Gotstowski is a pro bowl kicker, Merriweather was 2nd on the team in tackles and 4 INT's this year, Maroney had over 4 YPC except this year when he was hurt

You Donko fans sure know your football :rofl:

Inkana7
01-13-2009, 02:33 PM
Ummm....Gotstowski is a pro bowl kicker, Merriweather was 2nd on the team in tackles and 4 INT's this year, Maroney had over 4 YPC except this year when he was hurt

You Donko fans sure know your football :rofl:

Over 4 YPC! Wow!

That's two marginal players and one stud in the past 3 drafts. I'd gander to say 75% of those guys if not more are on the street.

You fail. At everything.

SouthStndJunkie
01-13-2009, 02:33 PM
Pioli looks like a douche.

We all know Josh McDaniels was the reason for New England's success over the last 8 years.

KCStud
01-13-2009, 02:34 PM
Get your facts straight. The Falcons never offered him a contract let alone an interview. He turned down Seattle because they wouldn't give him full control.

How many teams were courting him this offseason?

That's why. He didn't want to leave NE. Part of that was because they already had a plan for their successor to Holmgren

KCStud
01-13-2009, 02:35 PM
Really? I'd think that McDaniels is a far superior coach than Pioli. I mean, has the dude even ever been a coordinator?

With Pioli most likely comes Spags.

Winner-KC

Bob's your Information Minister
01-13-2009, 02:35 PM
Pioli looks like a douche.

We all know Josh McDaniels was the reason for New England's success over the last 8 years.

Compared to Carl he looks like a choir boy. A big fat man boobied lovable squeezable doughboy choir boy!

Rocky Mountain Stampede
01-13-2009, 02:37 PM
Ummm....Gotstowski is a pro bowl kicker, Merriweather was 2nd on the team in tackles and 4 INT's this year, Maroney had over 4 YPC except this year when he was hurt

You Donko fans sure know your football :rofl:

Way to spin. In case you hadn't heard, Maroney is in Belichick's dog house and close to hitting the streets. How many 1,000 yard rushing seasons does he have? He's been a major bust. Kickers are a dime a dozen. The success rate of drafted kickers is high.

Two picks hit in three years time and two of them were first rounders. High probability picks.

Beantown Bronco
01-13-2009, 02:37 PM
Ummm....Gotstowski is a pro bowl kicker, Merriweather was 2nd on the team in tackles and 4 INT's this year, Maroney had over 4 YPC except this year when he was hurt

You Donko fans sure know your football :rofl:

The lovely "tackles" argument. Champ's backup led the team in tackles a few times this year. Let's not go there.

And Maroney? I can say with certainty that there has been nothing but bad press about him from "team sources" for over a year now. He will NOT be a Patriot next season. Guaranteed.

ZachKC
01-13-2009, 02:38 PM
Sure. Get your Tom Brady and Bill Belicek in place and then we can humor a discussion about it. You're not one of the unreasonable trolls, so that sounds fair, doesn't it?

It sounds ridiculous when someone says it doesn't it.

I had a laugh when you used the word the other day.

TheReverend
01-13-2009, 02:38 PM
With Pioli most likely comes Spags.

Winner-KC

Denver and Cleveland already expressed displeasure. Let's see if the Jets continue to be disappointed with him.

If they are, KC just MIGHT get Sloppy 4ths. Of course, he might rather have the Rams or Lions gigs.

Kaylore
01-13-2009, 02:39 PM
I'll concede that by firing Carl and Herm alone they are a better franchise. They could hire David Shula and they'd be a better team.

Florida_Bronco
01-13-2009, 02:39 PM
Yawn.

TheReverend
01-13-2009, 02:40 PM
It sounds ridiculous when someone says it doesn't it.

I had a laugh when you used the word the other day.

Well, there's a difference between a dominant offense loaded with cap space going after prize D FA's with a stock pile of draft picks to raise the defensive bar and built a dominant D within 2 years, and, well, KCs cellar dwelling embarrassment of a franchise, but okay.

Florida_Bronco
01-13-2009, 02:40 PM
I'll concede that by firing Carl and Herm alone they are a better franchise. They could hire David Shula and they'd be a better team.

After the last few years, they have nowhere to go but up.

Bob's your Information Minister
01-13-2009, 02:41 PM
I'll concede that by firing Carl and Herm alone they are a better franchise. They could hire David Shula and they'd be a better team.

Let's not get carried away.

After all, Herm DID make the playoffs.

TheReverend
01-13-2009, 02:41 PM
Attention KC fans:

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Al Davis is laughing at you.

gunns
01-13-2009, 02:41 PM
Not looking to get him or anything, the post just made it sound like you folks had been to the SB in this century.

You are kind of a sensitive poster...really jumpy. When did that happen?

Maybe you can say something else stupid and apologize for it later again?

It's been a decade, a big difference between that and almost 4 decades, dontcha think. But continue to play the "century" game. Whatever makes you feel better.

KCStud
01-13-2009, 02:41 PM
Denver and Cleveland already expressed displeasure. Let's see if the Jets continue to be disappointed with him.

If they are, KC just MIGHT get Sloppy 4ths. Of course, he might rather have the Rams or Lions gigs.

And that makes him a bad coach how? Looks to me like he is a great coach, especially on the defensive side of the ball.

Just work he has done with losing Strahan and Osi in one year in simply incredible

gunns
01-13-2009, 02:43 PM
Let's not get carried away.

After all, Herm DID make the playoffs.

And what was the point of that? That's the difference, KC fans are happy just to make it.

TheReverend
01-13-2009, 02:44 PM
And that makes him a bad coach how? Looks to me like he is a great coach, especially on the defensive side of the ball.

Just work he has done with losing Strahan and Osi in one year in simply incredible

Yeah, breaking into the coordinator ranks at 48, and disappointing everyone throughout his interviews over a year is impressive.

At this rate, maybe he can get a HC gig by 65 if KC doesn't bite?

SonOfLe-loLang
01-13-2009, 02:46 PM
With a video camera. We have this same problem here when people talk about McDaniels and the NE success. Yet they all seem to forget the video camera.

The video camera does nothing...its such a non issue. Plus they went friggin 16-0 without it

SonOfLe-loLang
01-13-2009, 02:47 PM
I'll concede that by firing Carl and Herm alone they are a better franchise. They could hire David Shula and they'd be a better team.

No where to go but up

DeuceOfClub
01-13-2009, 02:50 PM
What's his 5-years-plan?

bronco militia
01-13-2009, 02:54 PM
Pioli looks like a douche.

We all know Josh McDaniels was the reason for New England's success over the last 8 years.

bwahahaha :rofl:

ZachKC
01-13-2009, 02:54 PM
It's been a decade, a big difference between that and almost 4 decades, dontcha think. But continue to play the "century" game. Whatever makes you feel better.

Not about feeling better. If people don't know what words mean then they should not use them.

ZachKC
01-13-2009, 02:55 PM
KC fans are happy just to make it.

False.

SlipperyPete
01-13-2009, 02:55 PM
I called this hire the second they fired Carl. Some d-bag neg repped me for it. LOL.

ZachKC
01-13-2009, 02:55 PM
Well, there's a difference between a dominant offense loaded with cap space going after prize D FA's with a stock pile of draft picks to raise the defensive bar and built a dominant D within 2 years, and, well, KCs cellar dwelling embarrassment of a franchise, but okay.

Dynasty.

bronco militia
01-13-2009, 02:56 PM
I called this hire the second they fired Carl. Some d-bag neg repped me for it. LOL.

you probably had it coming

;D

TheReverend
01-13-2009, 02:59 PM
Dynasty of futility.

Well, I'll agree and you continue headed in the right direction.

ZachKC
01-13-2009, 03:03 PM
Well, I'll agree and you continue headed in the right direction.
Hey...

I see what you did there.

Kudos. When you are bested you are bested. Those damn editable quotes.

jhat01
01-13-2009, 03:04 PM
Anybody ever half-miss their bottle while trying to spit? I just shot mint skoal juice all over my keyboard. Thats what i get for playing poker, dipping, and reading this **** at the same time haha

ZachKC
01-13-2009, 03:11 PM
Anybody ever half-miss their bottle while trying to spit? I just shot mint skoal juice all over my keyboard. Thats what i get for playing poker, dipping, and reading this **** at the same time haha

Wow, and people were trying to convince me KC fans were the rednecks.

That sounds disgusting.

BMF Bronco
01-13-2009, 03:12 PM
Did KC get a QB that I didn't hear about who is going to be the primary cog in this offensive machine, or are they still holding out hope for breakie croyle, or is thigpen now the QB of the future, or is huard coming back?

jhat01
01-13-2009, 03:13 PM
Wow, and people were trying to convince me KC fans were the rednecks.

That sounds disgusting.

Nah, If i spit in your mouth, that would be disgusting. What you got against dipping? One of the great habits i left the Corps with!

TheReverend
01-13-2009, 03:15 PM
Anybody ever half-miss their bottle while trying to spit? I just shot mint skoal juice all over my keyboard. Thats what i get for playing poker, dipping, and reading this **** at the same time haha

I usually only do that with a can when preoccupied. Accidentally spit on the back end instead of down the opening.

TheReverend
01-13-2009, 03:15 PM
Nah, If i spit in your mouth, that would be disgusting. What you got against dipping? One of the great habits i left the Corps with!

Same. Probably getting time to try quitting again, though.

BMF Bronco
01-13-2009, 03:16 PM
I usually only do that with a can when preoccupied. Accidentally spit on the back end instead of down the opening.

it really sucks when you put the cap back on and you forget that you did, then when you do the no look spit, the **** gets everywhere.

Bob's your Information Minister
01-13-2009, 03:18 PM
Wow, redneck invasion!

jhat01
01-13-2009, 03:19 PM
I usually only do that with a can when preoccupied. Accidentally spit on the back end instead of down the opening.

I'm not good with cans...the spit just kinda hangs around the lip of the can, cuz no matter how good you are, all of the spit doesn't go in hole all the time! heh

jhat01
01-13-2009, 03:20 PM
Wow, redneck invasion!

I even do my WOD's with a dip..i know, it's bad

colonelbeef
01-13-2009, 04:31 PM
New England hasn't been drafting well lately anyway

24champ
01-13-2009, 04:47 PM
Chief fans looking for validation...what else is new?


http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/20/clinton_laughing.jpg

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Killericon
01-13-2009, 04:59 PM
I'd rather have the Chiefs competing with us than the Chargers.

Bob's your Information Minister
01-13-2009, 05:03 PM
That's one thing we can all agree on.

Ninjatime
01-13-2009, 05:06 PM
Lol Chiefs :)

theAPAOps5
01-13-2009, 05:09 PM
Lol Chiefs :)

Wow Casino that took no time at all.

TheReverend
01-13-2009, 05:16 PM
it really sucks when you put the cap back on and you forget that you did, then when you do the no look spit, the **** gets everywhere.

Never done that one! Love it when people accidentally take a sip

TheReverend
01-13-2009, 05:18 PM
I'm not good with cans...the spit just kinda hangs around the lip of the can, cuz no matter how good you are, all of the spit doesn't go in hole all the time! heh

Na, you learn a quick wrist flip that snaps the remnants right in. You just need some more practice.

SpringStein
01-13-2009, 05:20 PM
I thought this was interesting at the end of a Schefter blog on Pioli in KC and changes he might make this afternoon:

Had Josh McDaniels not agreed to become the Broncos head coach, there are many people who believe he would have been Pioli’s top choice to become Kansas City’s coach. But Denver hired McDaniels and now it’s possible that Schwartz could wind up in Kansas City.

Paladin
01-13-2009, 05:22 PM
Funny you say that considering 3 of NE's so called best coaches throughout their best years are failures at other teams, but the first person to leave the front office (Dimitroff), has been a huge success for his team in Atlanta.

Bronco fans probably won't admit it, but this was a hell of a move by Clark and KC.
Pioli is an excellent talent evaluator and has done wonders for NE. He is a HUGE upgrade to KC and nobody can argue it.

They could hire a piece of *h*t and it would be an upgrade.....

Killericon
01-13-2009, 05:24 PM
I would very much like to see Herm stick around.

That would be awesome.

BroncoInferno
01-13-2009, 05:27 PM
Weren't the rumors that Pioli wanted to bring in Farentz? Is that still a possibility?

theAPAOps5
01-13-2009, 05:29 PM
Weren't the rumors that Pioli wanted to bring in Farentz? Is that still a possibility?

That is a rumor out there.

Bob's your Information Minister
01-13-2009, 05:29 PM
I would very much like to see Herm stick around.

That would be awesome.

Wish in one hand and enjoy non-playoff seasons in the other and see which fills up first....

theAPAOps5
01-13-2009, 05:31 PM
Wish in one hand and enjoy non-playoff seasons in the other and see which fills up first....

Yeah I would tell that to myself too. Sorry Blob we have an owner that wants to win. Yours just puts lipstick on a pig.

NUB
01-13-2009, 05:32 PM
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUu

SlipperyPete
01-13-2009, 05:38 PM
I thought this was interesting at the end of a Schefter blog on Pioli in KC and changes he might make this afternoon:

If Pioli wanted McDaniels to be his head coach, McDaniels would be his head coach.

TDmvp
01-13-2009, 05:42 PM
I love this board. We're talking about a franchise punter in a Scott Pioli thread.

Someone start a John Elway thread. I want to talk about...um....Dick Vermeil.

you love lots of things ...





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:poke: :poke: :poke:

Bob's your Information Minister
01-13-2009, 06:02 PM
Yeah I would tell that to myself too. Sorry Blob we have an owner that wants to win. Yours just puts lipstick on a pig.

What utter bull****.

What was Clark Hunt supposed to? NOT hire the hottest GM candidate and keep Mr. ****-for-brains Peterson?

Do you have any idea how much Pioli is costing Hunt? Probably almost as much as Parcells, if not more.

TDmvp
01-13-2009, 06:07 PM
What utter bull****.

What was Clark Hunt supposed to? NOT hire the hottest GM candidate and keep Mr. ****-for-brains Peterson?

Do you have any idea how much Pioli is costing Hunt? Probably almost as much as Parcells, if not more.

good hire by them ...

Ironlung
01-13-2009, 07:07 PM
What utter bull****.

What was Clark Hunt supposed to? NOT hire the hottest GM candidate and keep Mr. ****-for-brains Peterson?

Do you have any idea how much Pioli is costing Hunt? Probably almost as much as Parcells, if not more.

Didnt Carl decide to move on? He probably WOULD of kept Mr. Sh!t Brains.

Florida_Bronco
01-13-2009, 07:24 PM
Didnt Carl decide to move on? He probably WOULD of kept Mr. Sh!t Brains.

It's pretty telling that Carl Peterson was able to walk away on his own terms after not delivering a playoff win since the early 90's.

Any decent franchise would have fired him years ago.

TheReverend
01-13-2009, 07:27 PM
The Pioli move has GOT to keep Shanahan out of KC, too.

Double bonus.

alanm
01-13-2009, 07:28 PM
Chief fans have nothing to talk about. The Chiefs haven't even been to a Super Bowl in 30+ years, much less won one. Until you do sometime this century, leave your weak smack crap at home.
To be fair Denver hasn't done anything this century either. ;D

KCStud
01-13-2009, 07:54 PM
Yeah I would tell that to myself too. Sorry Blob we have an owner that wants to win. Yours just puts lipstick on a pig.

Clark wants to win just as much as your overly drunk owner does and until you can prove Clark doesn't want to win than you have nothing to support your claim.

Inkana7
01-13-2009, 07:56 PM
Clark wants to win just as much as your overly drunk owner does and until you can prove Clark doesn't want to win than you have nothing to support your claim.

Stop calling people homers as your only defense mechanism until you can learn not to be one yourself.

KCStud
01-13-2009, 08:02 PM
Stop calling people homers as your only defense mechanism until you can learn not to be one yourself.

Oh? Didn't realize that getting excited about the hottest GM candidate is considered being a "homer".

Homers are the one's saying McDaniels and his no experience was a better hire than a front office guy who has more than proven his self as one of the elite in upper management.

Ironlung
01-13-2009, 08:03 PM
Clark wants to win just as much as your overly drunk owner does and until you can prove Clark doesn't want to win than you have nothing to support your claim.
If Clark wanted to win Herm would be outta work.

KCStud
01-13-2009, 08:09 PM
If Clark wanted to win Herm would be outta work.

Herm will be out of work. He's as good as gone.

STBumpkin
01-13-2009, 08:09 PM
You are completely wrong. It takes 3 years to see how a draft turns out. Grading the 2008 draft right now is simply retarded

Until you look at the All-pro OT or the leading rookie receiver we drafted in '08.

rovolution
01-13-2009, 08:22 PM
Until you look at the All-pro OT or the leading rookie receiver we drafted in '08.

dont forget Larsen Hillis and Woodyard as well. all contributed well above the expectations

KCStud
01-13-2009, 08:27 PM
Until you look at the All-pro OT or the leading rookie receiver we drafted in '08.

Yes they are good players. What is meant by that is that it takes players time to develop.

Look at Albert Haynesworth. He took time to develop and now he is the best DT in the NFL

Tombstone RJ
01-13-2009, 09:42 PM
pioli sucks. if he was so great, why did NE let him walk?

KCStud
01-13-2009, 09:57 PM
pioli sucks. if he was so great, why did NE let him walk?

NE knew he was going to leave sooner or later because of the great work he has accomplished.

They were actually thankful that he turned down Seattle and NYG to stay with them longer.

Pioli wanted KC because they wanted to give him full control and they wanted him before anyone else.
Cleveland whored themselves around and put pressure on Pioli to decide. They also didn't let him choose his own guy for the HC position

rugbythug
01-13-2009, 10:07 PM
Congrats to KC. They got who they wanted. Here's to hoping he mirrors Carl's success.

DenverBrit
01-13-2009, 10:25 PM
Pioli won't be an upgrade over CP.

Joining the Chiefs will immediately lower his IQ.

Duke Earl Butch
01-13-2009, 10:38 PM
let the queefs have that slimy, jewish snake.

KC Paul
01-13-2009, 10:42 PM
The Pioli move has GOT to keep Shanahan out of KC, too.

Double bonus.
Don't be too sure of that just yet.

Just sayin'. ;)

KC Paul
01-13-2009, 10:44 PM
If Clark wanted to win Herm would be outta work.
He will be shortly. MuleFan should be WISHING that Herm gets to keep that gig.

theAPAOps5
01-13-2009, 10:46 PM
Don't be too sure of that just yet.

Just sayin'. ;)

You act like you know something. But you really don't

KC Paul
01-13-2009, 10:46 PM
Pioli won't be an upgrade over CP.
Most RETARDED statement ever posted on this forum....by anybody NOT named "Bob's Your Information Minister". ROFL!

Joining the Chiefs will immediately lower his IQ.
Jealous much?

KC Paul
01-13-2009, 10:47 PM
You act like you know something. But you really don't
You just never know, do ya? :pimp:

~Crash~
01-13-2009, 10:55 PM
Eat another sandwich boob. Perogi is not going to save your franchise.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmm hoagie ........

theAPAOps5
01-13-2009, 10:56 PM
You just never know, do ya? :pimp:

I know, and he isn't going to KC. I actually think Pioli makes a run at Spagnoulo and if he doesn't get him he gets Ferentz. Because he either wanted Ferentz or McDaniel.

Cochise
01-13-2009, 10:58 PM
ferentz has said he is not interested in leaving iowa. related/unrelated: his sons are playing football there.

local radio rumor is that spagnuolo is already in KC

KC Paul
01-13-2009, 11:00 PM
I know, and he isn't going to KC. I actually think Pioli makes a run at Spagnoulo and if he doesn't get him he gets Ferentz. Because he either wanted Ferentz or McDaniel.
Ferentz isn't going anywhere- he's already stated publicly that he wants to stay at Iowa at least as long as his son goes there.

Spags appears to be the guy so far....but the rumblings of Shanny being VERY interested in the Chiefs hasn't gone unnoticed around here. As for McDaniel, if Pioli wanted him to come to KC with him you guys wouldn't have been able to hire him. Simple as that.

theAPAOps5
01-13-2009, 11:02 PM
I know Shanny isn't VERY interested in KC. He doesn't want to rebuild for that crap franchise.

The ONLY thing that would make him even spend a moment of time is he would finally get the DC he has always wanted in Gunther.

I think Spags would be good for you guys and the division. Back to the good old days!

KC Paul
01-13-2009, 11:04 PM
I know Shanny isn't VERY interested in KC. He doesn't want to rebuild for that crap franchise.
A couple of the local radio guys think otherwise....besides, Michael Smith of ESPN was on the radio here yesterday morning and said he heard the same thing from his "sources". It may or may NOT be true. Who knows? What I THINK is that the "amicable" split between your owner and Shanny wasn't quite as clean and devoid of drama as they would like you to believe.

theAPAOps5
01-13-2009, 11:07 PM
A couple of the local radio guys think otherwise....besides, Michael Smith of ESPN was on the radio here yesterday morning and said he heard the same thing from his "sources". It may or may NOT be true. Who knows?

I wouldn't bet on it. But you never know a coach scorned! Shanahan wants full power, he won't get it there. And he detests rebuilds.

As for reporters and their sources. There is one and only one reporter who has the scoop when it comes all things Shanahan. That would be Adam Schefter. If he comes out and says it then its a valid rumor. Other than that you local guys are taking stabs and Micheal Smith, well he works for ESPN.

DenverBrit
01-13-2009, 11:40 PM
]Most RETARDED statement ever posted on this forum....by anybody NOT named "Bob's Your Information Minister". ROFL!
[/B]


You went over the top there, Pauly........you're quite the drama queen. Hilarious!

SlipperyPete
01-14-2009, 12:59 AM
I wouldn't bet on it. But you never know a coach scorned! Shanahan wants full power, he won't get it there. And he detests rebuilds.

If Mike wants full power, he's never going to coach again. No team in the NFL is going to turn their entire franchise over to him.

I wouldn't have thought he'd go to KC, but I wouldn't be surprised if he took the McDaniels hire as something of a slap in the face. And the Pioli hire brings them lot of juice. A coach who wants "full control" might be willing to concede that a guy like Pioli is better suited for it, even one who's ego is as big as Shanny's.

boltaneer
01-14-2009, 03:10 AM
Replacing King Carl with Pioli is definitely an upgrade IMO.

Nice hire.

cutthemdown
01-14-2009, 03:18 AM
Replacing King Carl with Pioli is definitely an upgrade IMO.

Nice hire.

I think most people agree with that.

boltaneer
01-14-2009, 04:19 AM
I think most people agree with that.

Yeah.

But there are still the homers and haters who just can't say anything good about the Chiefs. ;)

Tombstone RJ
01-14-2009, 07:14 AM
NE knew he was going to leave sooner or later because of the great work he has accomplished.

They were actually thankful that he turned down Seattle and NYG to stay with them longer.

Pioli wanted KC because they wanted to give him full control and they wanted him before anyone else.
Cleveland whored themselves around and put pressure on Pioli to decide. They also didn't let him choose his own guy for the HC position

do you really believe the crap you are saying?

Kaylore
01-14-2009, 07:38 AM
Yeah.

But there are still the homers and haters who just can't say anything good about the Chiefs. ;)

I have it both ways!:thumbsup:

Kaylore
01-14-2009, 07:40 AM
A couple of the local radio guys think otherwise....besides, Michael Smith of ESPN was on the radio here yesterday morning and said he heard the same thing from his "sources". It may or may NOT be true. Who knows? What I THINK is that the "amicable" split between your owner and Shanny wasn't quite as clean and devoid of drama as they would like you to believe.

Shanahan isn't going to be a Chief. At least he won't in '09. He's going to take a year off and get paid 4 mil to do nothing. I would too, if I was him.

Beantown Bronco
01-14-2009, 07:58 AM
I have it both ways!:thumbsup:

I heard that about you. :wiggle:

Drek
01-14-2009, 08:08 AM
A couple of the local radio guys think otherwise....besides, Michael Smith of ESPN was on the radio here yesterday morning and said he heard the same thing from his "sources". It may or may NOT be true. Who knows? What I THINK is that the "amicable" split between your owner and Shanny wasn't quite as clean and devoid of drama as they would like you to believe.

Then they're full of ****.

Shanahan isn't going anywhere that involves a step down in power, and he definitely isn't going to take the step down and at the same time need to assist someone else in rebuilding a team.

The ego of Mike Shanahan will now obligate him to find a HC job that gives him at least comparable FO powers as what he had in Denver because he's going to want to prove to everyone that he's the smartest guy in the room. That what doomed our defense, his insistence that he just knew better than everyone else.

I'm about 90% sure right now that KC will have Jim Schwartz hired from Tennessee by this time next week. And honestly, he's the best hire they could make.

Glenn Dorsey didn't really show up as an NFL ready DT like he was hyped as now did he? The guy who developed Albert Haynesworth could probably go a long ways towards fixing that.

He also worked with Pioli, literally together as both were scouts, in the 90's for the Browns. To me thats basically a done deal hire and again, I think its the best move KC could make to get at least one facet of their team (the defense) back on track. The big question at that point is how do you get anything done on offense and who would be the OC?

DemonEagles
01-14-2009, 08:41 AM
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Rohirrim
01-14-2009, 08:46 AM
let the queefs have that slimy, jewish snake.

Okay, that's one "Yes" vote from the KKK faction.

Kaylore
01-14-2009, 08:55 AM
Okay, that's one "Yes" vote from the KKK faction.

Thank you! I was wondering if I was the only one that thought that was off the wall. Always nice to hear from the Nazis now and again.

KCStud
01-14-2009, 08:56 AM
Well at least Herm has a job waiting for him when he gets fired.

Da Bears have an opening at DC and Lovie is Herm's buddy. Both run cover 2 defense too.

KCStud
01-14-2009, 08:59 AM
And Ratty isn't going to KC. The fans don't want him and he doesn't want us. Steve Spagnoulo should be the next coach. And he would be a great hire for us considering we had horrible results from our defensive line last year.

At least the division isn't starting to look like crap anymore. Nolan, McDaniels, Pioli, and most likely Spagnoulo will make this division fun again

rad
01-14-2009, 08:59 AM
Congrats on the MickeyD hire(my nickname for Mcdaniels) Hopefully for you guys he won't turn into a Mangini-type.

Alot of negativity over here about Pioli. So I went to see what people that are more qualified to comment on his potential had to say.

http://www.patriotsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=42099



Seems most folks at pats planet are sad to see him go.

theAPAOps5
01-14-2009, 09:10 AM
And Ratty isn't going to KC. The fans don't want him and he doesn't want us. Steve Spagnoulo should be the next coach. And he would be a great hire for us considering we had horrible results from our defensive line last year.

At least the division isn't starting to look like crap anymore. Nolan, McDaniels, Pioli, and most likely Spagnoulo will make this division fun again

I think Swartz would be just as good as Spags. But I agree either way the conference is at least making strides to get back to the good fun competitive days.

I wish we could trade out Oakland until they get new ownership though!

Kaylore
01-14-2009, 09:12 AM
The Patriots haven't had a good draft in three years. I'm not convinced this is such a slam dunk for the Chiefs. Of course if I had been force-fed the BS of Carl Peterson or 20 years I'd be ecstatic. So in that light I think the Chiefs are better off. They still suck, though.

KCStud
01-14-2009, 09:29 AM
The Patriots haven't had a good draft in three years. I'm not convinced this is such a slam dunk for the Chiefs. Of course if I had been force-fed the BS of Carl Peterson or 20 years I'd be ecstatic. So in that light I think the Chiefs are better off. They still suck, though.

so you're telling me that these players aren't good picks?

Gostkowski-86% career average and 10/12 from 40 and beyond
Maroney-over 4 YPC and 6 TD's barring injury
Mayo-Leading tackler and best defensive rookie this season
Merriweather-2nd in tackles, 4 INT's, 9 passes defended, 2 sacks

And I love it how you Donko fans skip past the 2005 draft where he helped them pick up Logan Mankins, Ellis Hobbs, and Matt Cassell.

It's not just the draft. He helped them out big time in free agency. People thought Randy Moss was on the decline when they picked him up and look at what they did to him?
And how about the additions of Adalius Thomas and Wes Welker through free agency?

Pioli is gonna help KC out big time in FA. Players stayed away from FA because of King Carl's reputation, especially after the Jared Allen fiasco.

KCStud
01-14-2009, 09:33 AM
And also a coaching change in KC would instantly help this team get wins. Herm was responsible for some of the losses last year such as...

Both Charger games
TB fiasco-24-13 lead at half and it should have been a bigger lead than that

A coach who can finish teams off in the second half would be nice

Drek
01-14-2009, 09:39 AM
And Ratty isn't going to KC. The fans don't want him and he doesn't want us. Steve Spagnoulo should be the next coach. And he would be a great hire for us considering we had horrible results from our defensive line last year.

At least the division isn't starting to look like crap anymore. Nolan, McDaniels, Pioli, and most likely Spagnoulo will make this division fun again

I think Spagnuolo would be a horrible choice. His defensive fron four is built heavily around production from speed rushers on both ends and even occasionally lining up in the middle. Tamba Hali would have a hard time cracking the DE rotation on THIS YEAR'S Giants, sans Strahan and Umenyiora.

Its basically dooming Dorsey to being a space filler instead of a playmaker.

Schwartz however would find ways to make Dorsey into a penetrating playmaker behind the LOS a la Haynesworth and he's shown that he can take a DE who isn't exceptionally fast or strong but solid across the board and make him into a complete end (Van Den Bosch).

He's so clearly the best choice for the recent investments on the KC line that if they pass on him for Spagnuolo or anyone short of Fischer himself I'll laugh my ass off. Their young D talent so closely parallels what Tennessee has built off of that its just a no brainer.

Orange_Beard
01-14-2009, 09:42 AM
This is a "good" move. Pioli's best work has been done in FA. It is going to be a little harder trying to get guys to come to KC(a losing team).

KCStud
01-14-2009, 09:43 AM
I think Spagnuolo would be a horrible choice. His defensive fron four is built heavily around production from speed rushers on both ends and even occasionally lining up in the middle. Tamba Hali would have a hard time cracking the DE rotation on THIS YEAR'S Giants, sans Strahan and Umenyiora.

Its basically dooming Dorsey to being a space filler instead of a playmaker.

Schwartz however would find ways to make Dorsey into a penetrating playmaker behind the LOS a la Haynesworth and he's shown that he can take a DE who isn't exceptionally fast or strong but solid across the board and make him into a complete end (Van Den Bosch).

He's so clearly the best choice for the recent investments on the KC line that if they pass on him for Spagnuolo or anyone short of Fischer himself I'll laugh my ass off. Their young D talent so closely parallels what Tennessee has built off of that its just a no brainer.

What's interesting about this is that the Giants wanted to draft Tamba, but when we got him, they chose Kiwanuka.

And reports are that Pioli and Schwartz aren't that good of friends. They apparently clashed when they last worked together

Binkythefrog
01-14-2009, 09:55 AM
If Pioli was Broncos GM I would be excited.

But what really matters is if the coaches can get the players they draft to work well within their system. Pioli may be able to to get good players, but he will need a good coach, and good communication with that coach to get the right players. I think that he and Belichek worked well together to accomplish this. Pioli worked well from 2002-2008, but also probably had bright people around him to help him make decisions.

I also think that some late round draft choices have a little luck involved. I don't believe that Pioli is so gifted as to see such ridiculous success for Brady or Cassel. Probably talented enough to see potential that others did, but not to the level of those two QB's.

The fact is that the Chiefs aren't like the Raiders and eventually someday would make changes to their front office to turn things around. Hopefully this makes for some exciting games in the future.

Drek
01-14-2009, 10:12 AM
What's interesting about this is that the Giants wanted to draft Tamba, but when we got him, they chose Kiwanuka.

And reports are that Pioli and Schwartz aren't that good of friends. They apparently clashed when they last worked together

Thats fine by me, I'd love to see KC go with Spags instead. Schwartz would have me really worried. Spagnuolo will need to spend some time getting a front line assembled before he's going to be dangerous.

And FYI, when the Giants wanted Hali Spagnuolo was still in Philly and the Giants were running Tim Lewis' weak defensive system.

MagicHef
01-14-2009, 10:14 AM
I think Spagnuolo would be a horrible choice. His defensive fron four is built heavily around production from speed rushers on both ends and even occasionally lining up in the middle. Tamba Hali would have a hard time cracking the DE rotation on THIS YEAR'S Giants, sans Strahan and Umenyiora.

Its basically dooming Dorsey to being a space filler instead of a playmaker.

Schwartz however would find ways to make Dorsey into a penetrating playmaker behind the LOS a la Haynesworth and he's shown that he can take a DE who isn't exceptionally fast or strong but solid across the board and make him into a complete end (Van Den Bosch).

He's so clearly the best choice for the recent investments on the KC line that if they pass on him for Spagnuolo or anyone short of Fischer himself I'll laugh my ass off. Their young D talent so closely parallels what Tennessee has built off of that its just a no brainer.

According to PFT, Pioli and Schwartz don't like each other much:

In response to a suggestion in some circles that new Chiefs G.M. Scott Pioli might pursue Titans defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz to become the new head coach of the team, a league source tells us that it will not be happening.

Per the source, Pioli and Schwartz “despise each other.”

Though Schwartz looks to be the favorite for the Lions job, his camp could be floating the possibility of Kansas City hiring Schwartz in order to squeeze Detroit into hiring him prematurely and/or giving him a better deal.

That said, it’s our understanding that the Chiefs are not and will not be an option for him.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/

TheDave
01-14-2009, 10:19 AM
Well that sucks...

Good for KC, probably not so good for us...

Oh well...

bjeffrey
01-14-2009, 10:20 AM
Personally, I think the Broncos hired the wrong genius from NE.

HooptyHoops
01-14-2009, 10:21 AM
I think Pioli is an upgrade for the Cheifs..that said, he has a lot of work to do. I'm glad the Broncos decided to keep Goodman over Pioli, as they will be a better team because of that decision.

Drek
01-14-2009, 10:25 AM
According to PFT, Pioli and Schwartz don't like each other much:



http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/

Like to know what the source is.

I know he and Belichick had some real issues in Cleveland, mostly 'cause Schwartz ate his turkey sammich.

But then Schwartz does supposedly rub a lot of people the wrong way with his "smartest guy in the room" attitude.

But he's the perfect guy to develop what defensive talent is already in place in KC.

If personal differences prevents Pioli from making the best hire for his team then I'm very happy about that. :)

crazyhorse
01-14-2009, 10:27 AM
What a bunch of BSers. You guys wanted Spagnoulo more than 15 to 1 over McDaniels. Now that he could potentially be the Chiefs HC you suddenly find a way to say he's not a good choice becaues of personnel.

I'm guessing if he doesn't like the players that he'll be able to go after the players he wants. With over 30 million in cap space and the NFL draft coming up, and with the 3rd pick in the draft the once great consideration for the Broncos should be a great consideration for the Chiefs.

Next you'll say that McDaniels was your 1st choice over Spagnoulo.

Pool
01-14-2009, 11:00 AM
If McDaniels doesn`t pan out in Denver, Pioli will add him to Chiefs staff.

KCStud
01-14-2009, 11:52 AM
What a bunch of BSers. You guys wanted Spagnoulo more than 15 to 1 over McDaniels. Now that he could potentially be the Chiefs HC you suddenly find a way to say he's not a good choice becaues of personnel.

I'm guessing if he doesn't like the players that he'll be able to go after the players he wants. With over 30 million in cap space and the NFL draft coming up, and with the 3rd pick in the draft the once great consideration for the Broncos should be a great consideration for the Chiefs.

Next you'll say that McDaniels was your 1st choice over Spagnoulo.

That's Donko fans for ya...

and for further proof, check this thread out :rofl:

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=75856

Tombstone RJ
01-14-2009, 11:52 AM
What a bunch of BSers. You guys wanted Spagnoulo more than 15 to 1 over McDaniels. Now that he could potentially be the Chiefs HC you suddenly find a way to say he's not a good choice becaues of personnel.

I'm guessing if he doesn't like the players that he'll be able to go after the players he wants. With over 30 million in cap space and the NFL draft coming up, and with the 3rd pick in the draft the once great consideration for the Broncos should be a great consideration for the Chiefs.

Next you'll say that McDaniels was your 1st choice over Spagnoulo.

the main reason we all wanted spags is easy to understand, our defense sucks and our offense is explosive, hence, more need for spags.

for you guys, it sounds like schwartz would gte more out of youre talent, immediately, than spags.

but either coach is a serious upgrade...

bronco militia
01-14-2009, 11:55 AM
A source with knowledge of the team's thinking told ESPN's Michael Smith it has not been ruled out that Herm Edwards could return for the final year of his contract as coach of the Kansas City Chiefs.

Conventional wisdom is that Scott Pioli, who is expected to be introduced as the team's new general manager later Wednesday, will want to hire his own guy, but a source said Pioli is coming in with an open mind.

KCStud
01-14-2009, 11:59 AM
A source with knowledge of the team's thinking told ESPN's Michael Smith it has not been ruled out that Herm Edwards could return for the final year of his contract as coach of the Kansas City Chiefs.

Conventional wisdom is that Scott Pioli, who is expected to be introduced as the team's new general manager later Wednesday, will want to hire his own guy, but a source said Pioli is coming in with an open mind.

Herm is gone and he knows it. It's delaying the inevitable. I give it a week at most before he's gone

bronco militia
01-14-2009, 12:05 PM
Herm is gone and he knows it. It's delaying the inevitable. I give it a week at most before he's gone

the fact that Herm is STILL in KC would be cause for concern.


get ready for one more year of herm ball!

KCStud
01-14-2009, 12:13 PM
the fact that Herm is STILL in KC would be cause for concern.


get ready for one more year of herm ball!

everybody knows Herm was going to be in KC until a hire was made. Clark said that Herm's fate would rest on what the new GM thinks and KC hasn't even announced their new GM yet

KCStud
01-14-2009, 12:24 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Pioli-could-fire-Edwards-in-KC-as-early-as-Wedne?urn=nfl,134283

Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:36 am EST

Pioli could fire Edwards in KC as early as WednesdayScott Pioli, 43, will have the final say over all football matters for the Kansas City Chiefs and report directly to owner Clark Hunt. Their first joint decision will be whether to retain coach Herm Edwards and his staff. Edwards was unavailable for comment




It's all speculation right now...but all signs are that Herm is gone

Kaylore
01-14-2009, 12:27 PM
If he retains Herm then you know you guys just signed a moron for a GM. This will be the first test to see if he has more brain power than a carrot.

theAPAOps5
01-14-2009, 12:36 PM
Herm is gone and he knows it. It's delaying the inevitable. I give it a week at most before he's gone

I wouldn't be surprised if that source was Herm himself!:thumbs:

Rocky Mountain Stampede
01-14-2009, 12:38 PM
Fu<span>ck</span> the Chiefs. They don't even have a franchise QB. Nobody is going to be a long-term threat in this league without one.

Killericon
01-14-2009, 12:53 PM
Fu<span>ck</span> the Chiefs. They don't even have a franchise QB. Nobody is going to be a long-term threat in this league without one.

Ravens(Joe Flacco is brand new...For the past 10 years, they've had no such thing).

Ed Hochuli
01-14-2009, 12:54 PM
Fu<span>ck</span> the Chiefs. They don't even have a franchise QB. Nobody is going to be a long-term threat in this league without one.

Well, pigpen does have SOME potential.

baja
01-14-2009, 12:54 PM
That's Donko fans for ya...

and for further proof, check this thread out :rofl:

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=75856

Not me, I wanted Morris or McDaniels.

I hope you get Spags I think the Pioli / Spagnuolo combo will be great. It will be good to have a competitive division again.

Don't know about the rest of you but I enjoy watching a good hard fought game more than piling up wins against a weaker team.

Orange_Beard
01-14-2009, 12:55 PM
Ravens(Joe Flacco is brand new...For the past 10 years, they've had no such thing).

You are leaving out a major fact, they have had a top 5 D. The Chefs have no such thing.

baja
01-14-2009, 12:59 PM
Ray Lewis said,"We are not afraid to play anybody anywhere anytime."

That's the attitude I want my Broncos to have.

theAPAOps5
01-14-2009, 01:01 PM
Ray Lewis said,"We are not afraid to play anybody anywhere anytime."

That's the attitude I want my Broncos to have.

Ray Lewis is also not scared to stab a hater! Just saying.......

crazyhorse
01-14-2009, 01:06 PM
the main reason we all wanted spags is easy to understand, our defense sucks and our offense is explosive, hence, more need for spags.

for you guys, it sounds like schwartz would gte more out of youre talent, immediately, than spags.

but either coach is a serious upgrade...

I agree that either coach is a potential upgrade. But both the Broncos and Chiefs are similar on defense. We have an undersized D line that is athletic. We have speed at LB with most of our talent at DB. I'm not sure I see where Spagnoulo would face a different challenge with the Chiefs than he would have with the Broncos from a defensive perspective.

From a HC perspective it would have served the Broncos better to go defensive IMO. You obviously have an offense that can get the job done. You dont need a head coach that will spend time on a unit that is already pretty good. Let the OC do that. You need attention on the defense. That said, a good HC is a good HC and should be able to get a team playing well using his available assets. Any time you promote a coordinator to HC you never know how they will pan out. That goes for McDaniel, Spagnoulo or any of them. You're just gonna have to keep our fingers crossed and hope for the best.

The Chieifs could use help on either side.

Kaylore
01-14-2009, 01:10 PM
I agree that either coach is a potential upgrade. But both the Broncos and Chiefs are similar on defense. We have an undersized D line that is athletic. We have speed at LB with most of our talent at DB.

Speak for yourself. We do have an undersized line, but they're not athletic. Also we have undersized linebackers, but no speed to speak of outside of Woodyard and DJ. No Crazy, we wish we were that cool.

Rocky Mountain Stampede
01-14-2009, 01:13 PM
Ravens(Joe Flacco is brand new...For the past 10 years, they've had no such thing).

Seconding what Orange Beard said, the Ravens had one of the all-time great defensive units.

And the Ravens have been good, but not as consistent as the Patriots, Colts, Steelers and Eagles have been during the decade.

2000: Super Bowl Champs
2001: Wild Card, beat Miami, lost to Pittsburgh
2002: Missed Playoffs
2003: AFC North Champs, one and done
2004: Missed Playoffs
2005: Missed Playoffs
2006: AFC North Champs, one and done
2007: Missed Playoffs

elsid13
01-14-2009, 01:52 PM
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Talking about the hire, the analyst said it was a good hire, but Pioli is not a personnel guy. He strenght and expertize is on admin side of the front office. NE Draft was run by Belicheat the scouts. Looks like KC might have struck out again.

baja
01-14-2009, 02:07 PM
Ray Lewis is also not scared to stab a hater! Just saying.......

I don't care that much for him either but I like the take all comers attitude.

It is easy to see what the Broncos have become just by reading this board.

"Oh Golly SD is going to kill us "

"Let's hope we don't have to play that team they are better than us but if we draw so & so team we might get past then to a second playoff game"

" I hate the Ravens they always push our guys around"

Right now we got;

Weak team with no confidence.

Weak fans with no confidence.

Hope this is going to change now _ That is what McDaniels means when he says he will bring a winning attitude here and I for one like it It's about time.

Rocky Mountain Stampede
01-14-2009, 02:11 PM
Weak fans with no confidence.

Weak fans with no confidence? If I see a Chargers, Raiders, Chiefs or Patriots player in public, I will get down in a three-point stance and knock their teeth out.

crazyhorse
01-14-2009, 02:19 PM
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Talking about the hire, the analyst said it was a good hire, but Pioli is not a personnel guy. He strenght and expertize is on admin side of the front office. NE Draft was run by Belicheat the scouts. Looks like KC might have struck out again.


Do you know what his title was for the Patriots?

38yrsfan
01-14-2009, 02:33 PM
53 - 44

Rocky Mountain Stampede
01-14-2009, 02:40 PM
53 - 44

14-10

theAPAOps5
01-14-2009, 02:43 PM
65 -42

posting random numbers is cool

baja
01-14-2009, 02:45 PM
Weak fans with no confidence? If I see a Chargers, Raiders, Chiefs or Patriots player in public, I will get down in a three-point stance and knock their teeth out.

That's the spirit! ;D

Beantown Bronco
01-14-2009, 02:49 PM
Do you know what his title was for the Patriots?

Slowick's title was defensive coordinator.......just sayin'.

crazyhorse
01-14-2009, 03:14 PM
Slowick's title was defensive coordinator.......just sayin'.

I was unaware Slowick worked for the Patriots. I was asking what Pioli's title was. FTR it was President of player personnel. So any statement made that he did not work in a player evaluation capacity for the Patriots is likely just a combination of wishful thinking and stupidity.....just sayin'.

Beantown Bronco
01-14-2009, 03:16 PM
I was unaware Slowick worked for the Patriots. I was asking what Pioli's title was. FTR it was President of player personnel. So any statement made that he did not work in a player evaluation capacity for the Patriots is likely just a combination of wishful thinking and stupidity.....just sayin'.

You didn't "get" my answer.

I knew where you were going with your question. I pre-emptively answered what I did to prove to you that titles aren't everything.

I should've known not to jump too far ahead with you on the other side. I'll slow it down next time.