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broncswin
01-11-2009, 06:35 PM
Per ESPN

theAPAOps5
01-11-2009, 06:36 PM
What? Link?

broncswin
01-11-2009, 06:36 PM
dont really know if I am too happy about this, I hope he has a great plan for the defensive side of the ball!!

theAPAOps5
01-11-2009, 06:37 PM
dont really know if I am too happy about this, I hope he has a great plan for the defensive side of the ball!!

Is there a link? I am not finding it.

broncswin
01-11-2009, 06:38 PM
Im not real good with links, just saw it on NFL primetime, on the ticker!!

Sassy
01-11-2009, 06:38 PM
Just how many freakin' coaching threads do we need to have???

bronco0608
01-11-2009, 06:38 PM
He is the "right" man for the job, or he got the job?

theAPAOps5
01-11-2009, 06:39 PM
I haven't seen it but I don't watch ESPN.

broncswin
01-11-2009, 06:39 PM
Sassy this is a thread about our new head coach, I think it might be important!!

MVP-06
01-11-2009, 06:39 PM
just saw it on espn

MVP-06
01-11-2009, 06:39 PM
He is the "right" man for the job, or he got the job?

they have reached an agreement per espn

plummershelper
01-11-2009, 06:40 PM
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SoCalBronco
01-11-2009, 06:40 PM
It is true. Look at ESPNNEWS, it is breaking news there.

broncswin
01-11-2009, 06:40 PM
He is the "right" man for the job, or he got the job?

On NFL primetime, it said breaking news, broncos and McDaniels come to agreement

frerottenextelway
01-11-2009, 06:40 PM
I'm relieved. Going with one of those DCs could've spelled unprecedented disaster for us.

theAPAOps5
01-11-2009, 06:40 PM
Ok I believe you I just wasn't near a TV and its not on the website yet.

I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE MELTDOWN. OH LEX!

dbfan4life
01-11-2009, 06:40 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3826234

Hallside
01-11-2009, 06:41 PM
I'm so relieved. This will be good.

Hogan11
01-11-2009, 06:41 PM
****

Archer81
01-11-2009, 06:41 PM
Sources: Broncos to hire McDaniels

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The Denver Broncos (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=den) have reached agreement to name New England offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels their new head coach, team sources told ESPN's Chris Mortensen on Sunday.


McDaniels, 32, replaces Mike Shanahan, who was fired Dec. 30 after 14 years on the job. The team is expected to announce the deal on Monday.
Broncos owner Pat Bowlen traveled to Boston Thursday for a second interview with McDaniels, who, according to sources, was one of two finalists along with Vikings defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier.

McDaniels becomes the third member of Belichick's coaching staff to be named an NFL head coach in recent years, following Romeo Crennel, who took over Cleveland in 2005 and was fired after this past season, and Eric Mangini, who went to the Jets in 2006. Mangini was also fired after this season and has since been named to replace Crennel in Cleveland.

McDaniels has worked in the NFL for eight seasons, all with New England. He joined the Patriots on March 1, 2001 as a personnel assistant in the scouting department and assisted the defensive coaching staff for three seasons. He began serving as the Patriots' quarterbacks coach in 2004 and was named offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach on Jan. 20, 2006.

McDaniels began his coaching career in 1999 as a graduate assistant at Michigan State, working under head coach Nick Saban.



:Broncos:

frerottenextelway
01-11-2009, 06:41 PM
Our Head Coach:

http://images.usatoday.com/sports/_photos/2006/01/20/inside1-2006-1-20-josh-mcdaniels.jpg

Broncos_OTM
01-11-2009, 06:41 PM
blah ... i guess it matters alot who will get the defensive cordinator job

SouthStndJunkie
01-11-2009, 06:42 PM
This is a roll of the dice.

32 is pretty damn young.

Sassy
01-11-2009, 06:42 PM
Sassy this is a thread about our new head coach, I think it might be important!!

Nah... not Spags or Cowher...so it's not important ;D :rofl:
He;s just a kid... :(

frerottenextelway
01-11-2009, 06:42 PM
Too early to talk about our next ''next head coach'' yet? :D

chaz
01-11-2009, 06:42 PM
I may actually cry if Turner/Bates/Dennison leave...

dbfan4life
01-11-2009, 06:42 PM
We fire a legend to hire a kid. Pat better know what the hell he is doing.

Sassy
01-11-2009, 06:43 PM
Hes cute though ;D

broncosteven
01-11-2009, 06:43 PM
Now we need a DC.

SoCalBronco
01-11-2009, 06:43 PM
I have my doubts, but I hope he is very successful for us.

lex
01-11-2009, 06:43 PM
This blows. Im not seeing it anywhere else though.

ANIMAL24
01-11-2009, 06:43 PM
Im Ok With This As Long As He Brings In A Great D Cor...

MVP-06
01-11-2009, 06:44 PM
Overall I think this might be the best way to go.

Cutler throws for 35 td's next year!!

TonyR
01-11-2009, 06:44 PM
I may actually cry if Turner/Bates/Dennison leave...

I bet they won't. Probably part of the agreement.

broncswin
01-11-2009, 06:44 PM
Sources: Broncos to hire McDaniels

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The Denver Broncos (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=den) have reached agreement to name New England offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels their new head coach, team sources told ESPN's Chris Mortensen on Sunday.


McDaniels, 32, replaces Mike Shanahan, who was fired Dec. 30 after 14 years on the job. The team is expected to announce the deal on Monday.
Broncos owner Pat Bowlen traveled to Boston Thursday for a second interview with McDaniels, who, according to sources, was one of two finalists along with Vikings defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier.

McDaniels becomes the third member of Belichick's coaching staff to be named an NFL head coach in recent years, following Romeo Crennel, who took over Cleveland in 2005 and was fired after this past season, and Eric Mangini, who went to the Jets in 2006. Mangini was also fired after this season and has since been named to replace Crennel in Cleveland.

McDaniels has worked in the NFL for eight seasons, all with New England. He joined the Patriots on March 1, 2001 as a personnel assistant in the scouting department and assisted the defensive coaching staff for three seasons. He began serving as the Patriots' quarterbacks coach in 2004 and was named offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach on Jan. 20, 2006.

McDaniels began his coaching career in 1999 as a graduate assistant at Michigan State, working under head coach Nick Saban.



:Broncos:

Oh that explains it all, look at all his D-coaching experience!!:rofl: :rofl:

footstepsfrom#27
01-11-2009, 06:44 PM
So we're going young and offense. Now we see who he bring in for DC...Mortnesen says Sean McDermott from Philly's secondary coach but he's under contract another year.

Hogan11
01-11-2009, 06:44 PM
Lean years ahead......lean years indeed.

broncosteven
01-11-2009, 06:45 PM
Funny but this guy is a classic Bowlen hire.

An offensive assistant that has won the SB and had his QB's put up record #'s in his system.

LongDongJohnson
01-11-2009, 06:45 PM
according to mort. his plans for defense is to hire the secondary coach for the eagles

lex
01-11-2009, 06:45 PM
Does anyone have it from another source?

Sassy
01-11-2009, 06:45 PM
You might want to change the thread title though...it sounds like you're just speculating...

Hogan11
01-11-2009, 06:45 PM
Im Ok With This As Long As He Brings In A Great D Cor...

He better.

HILife
01-11-2009, 06:45 PM
Yea it's true. Watching it on espn as well.

Eldorado
01-11-2009, 06:46 PM
Our Head Coach:

http://images.usatoday.com/sports/_photos/2006/01/20/inside1-2006-1-20-josh-mcdaniels.jpg

http://catsnstuff.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/dude-wait-what.jpg

theAPAOps5
01-11-2009, 06:47 PM
This is awesome!

Broncos_OTM
01-11-2009, 06:47 PM
how good is McDermott? that was the biggest thing for me is our new D cordinator.

lex
01-11-2009, 06:49 PM
Anyone see this from any other sources?

broncswin
01-11-2009, 06:49 PM
You might want to change the thread title though...it sounds like you're just speculating...

Gotter changed for you Sassy:thumbs:

Rohirrim
01-11-2009, 06:50 PM
He's too young. Hope for the best.

ludo21
01-11-2009, 06:50 PM
too young.. ugh

broncosteven
01-11-2009, 06:51 PM
Where is the guy with the SB trophy?

SoCalBronco
01-11-2009, 06:51 PM
Hes cute though ;D

No wonder Hogan is reacting negatively to his hiring. ;D

ANIMAL24
01-11-2009, 06:51 PM
Whoo Now Thats Over With.... Lets Fix Our Limp D (=

BroncoBuff
01-11-2009, 06:51 PM
Now we need a DC.
Raheem Morris
Dom Capers
Rod Marinelli

Any of the three work for me, although Capers is a 3-4 guy.

lookin' glass
01-11-2009, 06:51 PM
I wonder if he'll have a frat party to get things 'rowlen' for Bowlen.

Ironlung
01-11-2009, 06:51 PM
Does anyone have it from another source?

Its true douchebag. Now go cry your eyes out you ballbaby b*tch.

lex
01-11-2009, 06:51 PM
Anyone heard anything from Schefter? I dont trust Spaghetti Mort or ESPN.

CHANGSTER
01-11-2009, 06:51 PM
I really don't know how I feel about this.

Sassy
01-11-2009, 06:51 PM
Where's Patswin? I want his opinion.

lex
01-11-2009, 06:52 PM
Its true douchebag. Now go cry your eyes out you ballbaby b*tch.

Go f*ck the cow in you front yard.

theAPAOps5
01-11-2009, 06:52 PM
Anyone heard anything from Schefter? I dont trust Spaghetti Mort or ESPN.

Its because you are in denial, it will be ok Lex.

BroncoBuff
01-11-2009, 06:52 PM
Where is the guy with the SB trophy?
http://blog.feefifoto.com/images/2008/02/13/lombardi_trophy.jpg

jhat01
01-11-2009, 06:53 PM
New blood..I'm excited

Sassy
01-11-2009, 06:53 PM
No wonder Hogan is reacting negatively to his hiring. ;D

Nah...he didn't want him from day 1.

spdirty
01-11-2009, 06:54 PM
**** you Pat. You ****ing drunk.

Rock Chalk
01-11-2009, 06:54 PM
Well, here's to McDaniels being better than every other pos coach that left New England.

phillybroncosnut
01-11-2009, 06:55 PM
I swore off Football today when the egirls won so I got the news from my Dad. My first reaction was the big F word. I can't say Spags would be a better head coach so it's hard to be that upset. I was just getting excited with a defensive minded coach coming in, not touching the O and knowing exactly where to start with the personel on D.
When I got the news, I got the same feeling in my gut that I got watching our _efense this season. I have to be patient and sit back and watch the new plan take place. My fingers are crossed so tightly that I'm not sure they'll ever come apart. Please God............

PRBronco
01-11-2009, 06:55 PM
Hey check it out, our new coach knows Shaq! (43 second mark ;) )
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Broncos_OTM
01-11-2009, 06:55 PM
I am lukewarm on assistants from New England. Before i comment to much on this i will let him go through with his offseason and first year.

jhat01
01-11-2009, 06:55 PM
**** you Pat. You ****ing drunk.

You gotta change your adopt-a-bronco. Hilarious!

ANIMAL24
01-11-2009, 06:55 PM
Well That Was Fun. Lets Not Do This For Another 10 Years

Bronco X
01-11-2009, 06:56 PM
Bowlen should have gone with a defensive coach... maybe I'm overreacting but the reason Shanny is not here is because of the defense. He couldn't fix it, but someone still has to.

jhat01
01-11-2009, 06:57 PM
Bowlen should have gone with a defensive coach... maybe I'm overreacting but the reason Shanny is not here is because of the defense. He couldn't fix it, but someone still has to.

That's not the reason at all imo.

spdirty
01-11-2009, 06:57 PM
I feel like I am a fan of the football version of little big league. Unbelievable.

UberBroncoMan
01-11-2009, 06:57 PM
Damn Adam Schefter being right all the time.

lex
01-11-2009, 06:58 PM
Well That Was Fun. Lets Not Do This For Another 10 Years


No. Lets do this again around week 9. If its not going well, I hope the fans are so hard on him that he resigns. Wow, did Pat **** this up.

Hogan11
01-11-2009, 06:58 PM
Well, here's to McDaniels being better than every other pos coach that left New England.

No kidding. I thought Pat was smart enough not to hire a Bellichek lackey...I was wrong. This hiring makes me wanna drop some kids off at the pool, that's how excited I am about this. His DC hire had better be stellar or we're in for some hard times.

BroncoBuff
01-11-2009, 06:59 PM
Does anybody remember when the Colorado Rockies were in the World Series? And the stupid Yankess showed them up by signing a new manager, or A-Rod or something in the middle of the series, and they were criticized for detracting from the Series? Bowlen didn't want to do that, he's too classy.

But make no mistake, this was a done deal Thursday when Joe Ellis sat down alone with McDaniles for 5+ hours. In the absence of Pat, that was the contract negotiations, terms and conditions. They waited until now so as not to detract from the playoffs' attention.

Br0nc0Buster
01-11-2009, 07:00 PM
This is interesting, well lets see what he can do.

I am excited about who he brings in and what we do this offseason

SouthStndJunkie
01-11-2009, 07:00 PM
Pat....why don't you have a seat right over there....

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lex
01-11-2009, 07:00 PM
Still nothing on NFLN.

Br0nc0Buster
01-11-2009, 07:01 PM
Still nothing on NFLN.

They are not lying, it is true

SonOfLe-loLang
01-11-2009, 07:02 PM
I like it....bring it on.

lex
01-11-2009, 07:02 PM
They are not lying, it is true

What are the other sources? Nothing on the post or NFLN.

theAPAOps5
01-11-2009, 07:03 PM
What are the other sources? Nothing on the post or NFLN.

DENIAL

Drek
01-11-2009, 07:03 PM
No. Lets do this again around week 9. If its not going well, I hope the fans are so hard on him that he resigns. Wow, did Pat **** this up.

Got you act like a drama queen when things don't go exactly according to your little fantasy. How do you handle being a sports fan at all when you get so damn butt hurt over everything you don't like?

Florida_Bronco
01-11-2009, 07:04 PM
YES!!!!

Ratboy
01-11-2009, 07:04 PM
Woohoo!!! Bowlen, you are the man!

broncosteven
01-11-2009, 07:04 PM
No. Lets do this again around week 9. If its not going well, I hope the fans are so hard on him that he resigns. Wow, did Pat **** this up.

Pat ****ed this up weeks ago when he fired a HOF coach.

The Fireshanny guys got what they wanted now we have to sleep in the bed he made and hope this kid is a winner.

Br0nc0Buster
01-11-2009, 07:04 PM
What are the other sources? Nothing on the post or NFLN.

I saw on ESPN they said it.
They had the "breaking news" thing and Mort came on and said it.

Ratboy
01-11-2009, 07:04 PM
YES!!!!

QFT!!

lex
01-11-2009, 07:05 PM
I saw on ESPN they said it.
They had the "breaking news" thing and Mort came on and said it.

I know that. Mort is wrong some times though. I havent seen anything from someone more reliable like Schefter.

BroncoBuff
01-11-2009, 07:05 PM
Pat....why don't you have a seat right over there....

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First class comedy, sir! :thumbs:

Drek, what are McDaniels' ties with Marinelli or Capers again?

If we don't name a DC this week, I bet we'll be waiting on McDermott. I think they're gonna kill the Cards, so it'll be a long wait.

Dukes
01-11-2009, 07:06 PM
So should we start taking bets on how long he lasts?

Hogan11
01-11-2009, 07:08 PM
So should we start taking bets on how long he lasts?

I'm down for three seasons.....call it the Mangini

BroncoMatt
01-11-2009, 07:10 PM
Cutler should be happy, McD loves to throw the ball

summerdenver
01-11-2009, 07:11 PM
I know that. Mort is wrong some times though. I havent seen anything from someone more reliable like Schefter.

Here you go. Denver post is reporting that its going to be McD + Capers

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_11430967

Dedhed
01-11-2009, 07:11 PM
No kidding. I thought Pat was smart enough not to hire a Bellichek lackey...I was wrong. This hiring makes me wanna drop some kids off at the pool, that's how excited I am about this. His DC hire had better be stellar or we're in for some hard times.

We've been in hard times for a decade.

BroncoInferno
01-11-2009, 07:11 PM
No kidding. I thought Pat was smart enough not to hire a Bellichek lackey...I was wrong.

I think it is kind of silly to judge McDaniels based on the failures of other Patriots assistants as head coaches. Those are all unique, individual situations that have no bearing or relevance in terms of how McDaniels will perform here.

Bronco LB 59
01-11-2009, 07:12 PM
I hate the Patriots. This is going to take a lot time to accept.

Rock Chalk
01-11-2009, 07:12 PM
We've been in hard times for a decade.

Harder times then.

DenverBrit
01-11-2009, 07:12 PM
Bowlen has taken care of Cutler with this hiring.....probably no change in the offensive assistants. He knows how to get the best out of a QB

Question is, which DC will work for him?

Two year plan to get a balanced team. :thumbs:

theAPAOps5
01-11-2009, 07:13 PM
Well I am disappointed they aren't hiring McDermott as that was the best of both worlds. But Dom Capers is a ****ty HC but a damn fine DC.

Rock Chalk
01-11-2009, 07:13 PM
I think it is kind of silly to judge McDaniels based on the failures of other Patriots assistants as head coaches. Those are all unique, individual situations that have no bearing or relevance in terms of how McDaniels will perform here.

This is true, but when they all have sucked, the common theme is that Belicheat is the genius and his lackey's just do what he tells them to do. McDaniels may be the next coming of Christ, but the odds are more likely thay he will fail.

Broncoman13
01-11-2009, 07:13 PM
Hes cute though ;D

Now we know why Hogan doesn't like him!!! ;D

Awesome hire. Congrats Bronco fans, we have a new offensive mastermind that can take the offense to the next level and being that he is a "kid" knows that he'll have to put the defense and personnel decisions in the hands of the DC and GM. Bronco fans be happy, Bowlen and his staff did everything they could to find someone better suited than McDaniels, but he shined so bright we didn't have a choice!

Ratboy
01-11-2009, 07:13 PM
I hate the Patriots. This is going to take a lot time to accept.

You'll get over it once we start kicking ass.

CoBear23
01-11-2009, 07:13 PM
I wanted Spag's but am more than willing to give Coach MCD a chance. This could either be a brilliant move if Bowlen has found the next Shanahan but it all really depends on the quality of the coordinators he brings in.

BroncoInferno
01-11-2009, 07:13 PM
Here you go. Denver post is reporting that its going to be McD + Capers

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_11430967

Eh. After pondering it after the rumor first floated, I am not too thrilled with Capers. For one thing, it will require a complete personnel overhaul to run the 3-4. For another, I'd rather make the youth movement complete with young blood like McDermott.

Taco John
01-11-2009, 07:13 PM
I would have laughed at the Chiefs or Raiders if they'd have made this hire. Here's hoping for the best...

Hogan11
01-11-2009, 07:14 PM
We've been in hard times for a decade.

No...I'm talking real hard times, like say KC this past season if they screw up the DC hire and start doing equally stupid things like selecting an offensive player @ #12 in the draft and the like.

Dedhed
01-11-2009, 07:14 PM
Cutler should be happy, McD loves to throw the ball

Cutler can be the best in the game with McDaniels's help. Although I think there's an inflated perception of how pass happy the Pats have been under Coach Mac.

socalorado
01-11-2009, 07:15 PM
So, if its Capers as the DC, then does DEN go to a 3-4?

Br0nc0Buster
01-11-2009, 07:15 PM
Well I am disappointed they aren't hiring McDermott as that was the best of both worlds. But Dom Capers is a ****ty HC but a damn fine DC.

Where has Capers been since he was the HC of Houston?
I seriously dont know

theAPAOps5
01-11-2009, 07:15 PM
No...I'm talking real hard times, like say KC this past season if they screw up the DC hire and start doing equally stupid things like selecting an offensive player @ #12 in the draft and the like.

No way Pat lets that happen. You are overreacting.

DenverBrit
01-11-2009, 07:15 PM
A source also said the team will hire Dom Capers, who was the head coach of expansion teams Carolina and then Houston. He was an assistant/secondary coach with the Patriots this season after serving eight years as an NFL head coach.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_11430967

BroncoInferno
01-11-2009, 07:15 PM
This is true, but when they all have sucked, the common theme is that Belicheat is the genius and his lackey's just do what he tells them to do. McDaniels may be the next coming of Christ, but the odds are more likely thay he will fail.

Bellichek is more of a defensive guru, so we only have Weiss as an example of an offensive failing. I would be more skeptical if we were bringing a Pats DC.

Dedhed
01-11-2009, 07:16 PM
No...I'm talking real hard times, like say KC this past season if they screw up the DC hire and start doing equally stupid things like selecting an offensive player @ #12 in the draft and the like.

Won't happen. There are far more reasons the Chiefs and Raiders are where they are than because of a head coach. Has more to do with FO and ownership. We've got one of the best owners in football, and imo we've upgraded the FO considerably by replacing Shanahan.

SonOfLe-loLang
01-11-2009, 07:16 PM
Cutler can be the best in the game with McDaniels's help. Although I think there's an inflated perception of how pass happy the Pats have been under Coach Mac.

Agreed...they dont remember the 07 playoffs very well. Plus, last year the pats scored ...what? 587 points? I guess throwing the ball worked.

dbfan4life
01-11-2009, 07:17 PM
What are the other sources? Nothing on the post or NFLN.

Why do you think ESPN would further tarnish its ****ty image? I don't want it to be true, either, but it more than likely is.

Rock Chalk
01-11-2009, 07:17 PM
Cutler can be the best in the game with McDaniels's help. Although I think there's an inflated perception of how pass happy the Pats have been under Coach Mac.

McD + Brady = over 100 more passing attempts than rushing attempts.

McD + Cassel was pretty balanced.

Maybe McD knows Cutler is no Brady and not nearly as cautious with the ball so he will dial down the passing like he did with Cassel. Thats what Im hopeful for.

Hogan11
01-11-2009, 07:18 PM
No way Pat lets that happen. You are overreacting.

Well, we'll see....bringing in a washed up, has been like Capers is not exactly an encouraging sign either ya know.

Who was the worst possible choice for GM on the list? Bet the house he gets that job as well.

lex
01-11-2009, 07:18 PM
Bowlen has taken care of Cutler with this hiring.....probably no change in the offensive assistants. He knows how to get the best out of a QB

Question is, which DC will work for him?

Two year plan to get a balanced team. :thumbs:


No two year plan. The only way to justify this pick is to turn the defense around in the first year. Pat chose to go with the side of the ball that we needed least and now the burden is at McDaniels feet to fix a defense. If he doesnt, he should be booed out of town.

clint7
01-11-2009, 07:18 PM
I feel like I am a fan of the football version of little big league. Unbelievable.

Ha! I was thinking the same thing, "Little Big League!"

theAPAOps5
01-11-2009, 07:19 PM
Well, we'll see....bringing in a washed up, has been like Capers is not exactly an encouraging sign either ya know.

Who was the worst possible choice for GM on the list? Bet the house he gets that job as well.

No bringing a washed up HC in Capers would have put me over the edge. But he is a great DC. Some people aren't good at HC but good at DC.

TonyR
01-11-2009, 07:19 PM
Raheem Morris
Dom Capers
Rod Marinelli

Any of the three work for me, although Capers is a 3-4 guy.

Morris and Marinelli already have DC jobs. It's Capers. I was hoping for McDermott from Philly but I suppose that would have been too young of a staff. Capers brings some experience, although I don't see how we go 3-4 with these players.

Riddi
01-11-2009, 07:19 PM
I'm Okay with McDanials but If Capers is our DC I will be pissed!!!!!!!!

Hogan11
01-11-2009, 07:20 PM
No bringing a washed up HC in Capers would have put me over the edge. But he is a great DC. Some people aren't good at HC but good at DC.

The elder Bates was a great DC as well.....and then he came here

Sassy
01-11-2009, 07:21 PM
UGh...just got the text from CBS4 saying he's the new coach.

Dedhed
01-11-2009, 07:21 PM
McD + Brady = over 100 more passing attempts than rushing attempts.

McD + Cassel was pretty balanced.

Maybe McD knows Cutler is no Brady and not nearly as cautious with the ball so he will dial down the passing like he did with Cassel. Thats what Im hopeful for.
Sounds like good coaching to me. Knowing what your players are capable of and playing to their strengths.

Hard to argue with the success McD had letting Brady throw an extra 100 passes.

Dedhed
01-11-2009, 07:22 PM
I'm Okay with McDanials but If Capers is our DC I will be pissed!!!!!!!!

Why?

titan
01-11-2009, 07:22 PM
McDaniels is a "gamble on greatness" pick - I like it. Pat was facing a 3rd and 1 and threw long with the McDaniels pick. Capers as D Coordinator looks like a solid choice - here's an article on Capers when he went to the Patriots last season:

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2008/09/04/a_taste_of_capers/

theAPAOps5
01-11-2009, 07:23 PM
The elder Bates was a great DC as well.....and then he came here

Except Bates only new on way of defense and Shanny didn't have the players to run it. So he got exposed. What you have to realize is that Shanahan focused so much on Offense the D just lost all semblence of talent.

Its going to take some good drafts and FA moves to balance out. It won't happen in a year but it will happen faster than if Shanny was still the GM. See I hated losing Shanny the coach but Shanny the GM was failing.

Br0nc0Buster
01-11-2009, 07:23 PM
The elder Bates was a great DC as well.....and then he came here

That is debatable.
When we first hired Bates I talked to some Miami fans, and well they were not too impressed with Bates.
His defenses were not bad there, but I think he was a bit overrated.

jhat01
01-11-2009, 07:24 PM
The elder Bates was a great DC as well.....and then he came here

That's exactly right...Rhodes was a great DC too, til he came here. I'm OK with Capers..flush the whole defense, see what happens - it's not like it could get much worse.

55CrushEm
01-11-2009, 07:25 PM
That's exactly right...Rhodes was a great DC too, til he came here. I'm OK with Capers..flush the whole defense, see what happens - it's not like it could get much worse.

Except for the fact we've been saying that for 3 years....and WE HAVE gotten worse each year.

theAPAOps5
01-11-2009, 07:26 PM
Exactly jhat and BBuster. You can bring in a DC who pisses Gold but it won't amount to jack when you give him players that suck ass. Shanny the GM got Shanny the coach fired. It sucks I think Shanny is the best coach but failed at GM in the end.

Rohirrim
01-11-2009, 07:27 PM
32 yrs old is just too young. That's just the unavoidable truth. Nobody at that age has the gravitas to run an NFL team. It's not possible. If he adds Dom Caper to the mix we have all the elements of a disaster. Fasten you seat belts, boys. It's going to be a bumpy night.

jhat01
01-11-2009, 07:27 PM
Exactly jhat and BBuster. You can bring in a DC who pisses Gold but it won't amount to jack when you give him players that suck ass. Shanny the GM got Shanny the coach fired. It sucks I think Shanny is the best coach but failed at GM in the end.

very true

Broncoman13
01-11-2009, 07:28 PM
No two year plan. The only way to justify this pick is to turn the defense around in the first year. Pat chose to go with the side of the ball that we needed least and now the burden is at McDaniels feet to fix a defense. If he doesnt, he should be booed out of town.

Nice to see your little biatch ass finally recognize who the new DENVER BRONCOS HEAD COACH IS!!! Josh McDaniels will take us to the promised land!!!

Inkana7
01-11-2009, 07:28 PM
He was 3rd on my list. We'll see. I like Capers.

Hogan11
01-11-2009, 07:29 PM
Except Bates only new on way of defense and Shanny didn't have the players to run it. So he got exposed. What you have to realize is that Shanahan focused so much on Offense the D just lost all semblence of talent.

I really don't see much difference to be honest. The players that we have now don't fit the Capers 3-4 schemes.

Sassy
01-11-2009, 07:30 PM
I really don't see much difference to be honest. The players that we have now don't fit the Capers 3-4 schemes.

Who do you want as DC?

theAPAOps5
01-11-2009, 07:32 PM
I really don't see much difference to be honest. The players that we have now don't fit the Capers 3-4 schemes.

Which is why it will take time. But there are plenty of 3-4 LB's available in FA. All 4 of the Ravens are FA's. This Defense is so piss poor in talent its going to take a year. The question is who has the patience to wait. I know you do Hogan but folks like Lex will be Charger fans by next week.

He may be a tad young but what the heck might as well try it.

jhat01
01-11-2009, 07:32 PM
I really don't see much difference to be honest. The players that we have now don't fit the Capers 3-4 schemes.

The players we have now don't fit anyone's scheme. Aside from 3 or 4 guys on that side of the ball..how many others start for any other team? I don't know, but I don't think it will be too bad if we go 34

i4jelway7
01-11-2009, 07:32 PM
I just puked up my $50 outback meal.... what a waste.. fire shanny for that little twit.. and not to mention Dom Fvckin Deluise Capers to run the D OMG.. my worst nightmare just came true... I'm beyond words right now.. what a kick in the gut... UGH ... Mcdonalds & Capers are HORRIBLE .... I'm distraught

montrose
01-11-2009, 07:33 PM
So, if its Capers as the DC, then does DEN go to a 3-4?

Yes.

Capers brings some experience, although I don't see how we go 3-4 with these players.

It's going to be a process, but it's been concluded that our current defensive personnel sucks anyway. We'll move guys around this year and add as many 3-4 guys as we can in the offseason. Thomas can play a DE spot, DJ will man the ILB spot while Moss, Doom and Boss should compete for time at OLB. The new #1 priority for the offseason has become finding a 3-4 NT.

Inkana7
01-11-2009, 07:33 PM
The players we have now don't fit anyone's scheme. Aside from 3 or 4 guys on that side of the ball..how many others start for any other team? I don't know, but I don't think it will be too bad if we go 34

How many of our guys start for other teams REGARDLESS of scheme?

ro_50
01-11-2009, 07:33 PM
Does this mean maybe Scott Pioli will come here as GM?

jhat01
01-11-2009, 07:35 PM
How many of our guys start for other teams REGARDLESS of scheme?

Thats what im saying...Only way we can go is up

Br0nc0Buster
01-11-2009, 07:36 PM
The new #1 priority for the offseason has become finding a 3-4 NT.

Terrence Cody step on down!!!

i4jelway7
01-11-2009, 07:36 PM
Here's hoping your time here is a short stay Mcdonalds... and take Dom Deluise with you!!!!

I hope you get fired sooner than later

Br0nc0Buster
01-11-2009, 07:36 PM
Does this mean maybe Scott Pioli will come here as GM?

no, he is about to be the Chiefs GM

GreatBronco16
01-11-2009, 07:37 PM
This is odd. Why this late in the evening to let the cat out of the bag? Esp after the Giants lost. I'm thinking that Bowlen gave a call to Spags after the game, and Spags turned him down wanting to stay in NY, so Bowlen went with his second choice. Otherwise, why wouldn't this have broke earlier?

But I'm glad that we are getting the ball rolling now. Time to look ahead.

The MVPlaya
01-11-2009, 07:38 PM
32 yrs old is just too young. That's just the unavoidable truth. Nobody at that age has the gravitas to run an NFL team. It's not possible. If he adds Dom Caper to the mix we have all the elements of a disaster. Fasten you seat belts, boys. It's going to be a bumpy night.

And Tomlin was only 2 years older. 2 years!

Everything lined up for McDaniels to get hired. Shanahan was the only coach Belichick really respected and praised, and I believe they got a long well. Shanny called on his greatness before he went to the Pats. I'm sure they wanted to go the Defensive route after how bad the Broncos have been manhandled the past few seasons. However, they probably sat down and realized the future of the Broncos is the offense.

McDaniels has rings and the experience of a successful franchise.

Nice hire.

lex
01-11-2009, 07:38 PM
Nice to see your little biatch ass finally recognize who the new DENVER BRONCOS HEAD COACH IS!!! Josh McDaniels will take us to the promised land!!!

If he doesnt will you leave the Mane for a year?

Drek
01-11-2009, 07:38 PM
32 yrs old is just too young. That's just the unavoidable truth. Nobody at that age has the gravitas to run an NFL team. It's not possible. If he adds Dom Caper to the mix we have all the elements of a disaster. Fasten you seat belts, boys. It's going to be a bumpy night.

Mike Tomlin was hired just two years ago at 34. His team is going to the AFC Championship Game. How is he doing it without this gravitas of which you speak?

jhat01
01-11-2009, 07:38 PM
Here's hoping your time here is a short stay Mcdonalds... and take Dom Deluise with you!!!!

I hope you get fired sooner than later

Nice..hasn't even called a play yetROFL!

lex
01-11-2009, 07:39 PM
I just puked up my $50 outback meal.... what a waste.. fire shanny for that little twit.. and not to mention Dom f***in Deluise Capers to run the D OMG.. my worst nightmare just came true... I'm beyond words right now.. what a kick in the gut... UGH ... Mcdonalds & Capers are HORRIBLE .... I'm distraught

QFT

lex
01-11-2009, 07:39 PM
Here's hoping your time here is a short stay Mcdonalds... and take Dom Deluise with you!!!!

I hope you get fired sooner than later

QFT

The MVPlaya
01-11-2009, 07:39 PM
And who the hell updates Wikipedia? It already lists him as the Broncos head coach...

socalorado
01-11-2009, 07:39 PM
Mike Tomlin was hired just two years ago at 34. His team is going to the AFC Championship Game. How is he doing it without this gravitas of which you speak?

QFT.

lex
01-11-2009, 07:40 PM
Mike Tomlin was hired just two years ago at 34. His team is going to the AFC Championship Game. How is he doing it without this gravitas of which you speak?

Are you seriously dumb enough to think the two situations are even remotely comparable? Wow.

theAPAOps5
01-11-2009, 07:40 PM
Here's hoping your time here is a short stay Mcdonalds... and take Dom Deluise with you!!!!

I hope you get fired sooner than later

God I can't wait to quote you in the future.

lex
01-11-2009, 07:41 PM
And Tomlin was only 2 years older. 2 years!

Everything lined up for McDaniels to get hired. Shanahan was the only coach Belichick really respected and praised, and I believe they got a long well. Shanny called on his greatness before he went to the Pats. I'm sure they wanted to go the Defensive route after how bad the Broncos have been manhandled the past few seasons. However, they probably sat down and realized the future of the Broncos is the offense.

McDaniels has rings and the experience of a successful franchise.

Nice hire.

So does Spagnuolo but only Spagnuolo is McDaniels' master.

Rohirrim
01-11-2009, 07:41 PM
And Tomlin was only 2 years older. 2 years!

Everything lined up for McDaniels to get hired. Shanahan was the only coach Belichick really respected and praised, and I believe they got a long well. Shanny called on his greatness before he went to the Pats. I'm sure they wanted to go the Defensive route after how bad the Broncos have been manhandled the past few seasons. However, they probably sat down and realized the future of the Broncos is the offense.

McDaniels has rings and the experience of a successful franchise.

Nice hire.

Tomlin was born in 1972. He was named the Steelers HC in 2007. That's 35.

socalorado
01-11-2009, 07:42 PM
And who the hell updates Wikipedia? It already lists him as the Broncos head coach...

Really?!?! Thats great!
I guess Jenkins over at Wikipedia is working OT.

theAPAOps5
01-11-2009, 07:42 PM
So does Spagnuolo but only Spagnuolo is McDaniels' master.

How about you come to camp this year. I would love to teach you about football with no access to Madden. You little queer.

Dukes
01-11-2009, 07:44 PM
Does this mean maybe Scott Pioli will come here as GM?

I was wondering the same thing.

I don't really mind us going to the 3-4 because as some have already stated, out personel aren't worth keeping around anyway. At least now we have a reason to go after Bart Scott and other 3-4 FAs

socalorado
01-11-2009, 07:44 PM
How about you come to camp this year. I would love to teach you about football with no access to Madden. You little queer.

Let it go man. The meltdown is going to go apocolyptic.

Just sit back and watch the mayhem! Its better that way!

Inkana7
01-11-2009, 07:45 PM
Are you seriously dumb enough to think the two situations are even remotely comparable? Wow.

You're right. Tomlin only had one year as a coordinator.

Dukes
01-11-2009, 07:46 PM
If he doesnt will you leave the Mane for a year?

The Mane is a better place with Oskie and with you gone.

lex
01-11-2009, 07:46 PM
You're right. Tomlin only had one year as a coordinator.


No. Pittsburgh was further along as a team with far fewer holes.

TheDave
01-11-2009, 07:47 PM
Ugh... This was my least favorite of all the names mentioned.

Here's to officially hoping for the best.

i4jelway7
01-11-2009, 07:47 PM
God I can't wait to quote you in the future.

feel free... I stand by it.. this hiring is a MISTAKE

theAPAOps5
01-11-2009, 07:47 PM
Let it go man. The meltdown is going to go apocolyptic.

Just sit back and watch the mayhem! Its better that way!

Oh I know but I want to teach the child.

The MVPlaya
01-11-2009, 07:47 PM
Lex is an idiot. I recall many situations where he makes many stupid remarks and statements.

Dumbass ha ha

theAPAOps5
01-11-2009, 07:47 PM
feel free... I stand by it.. this hiring is a MISTAKE

You can quote me too. But you won't be.

Inkana7
01-11-2009, 07:48 PM
No. Pittsburgh was further along as a team with far fewer holes.

They were coming off an 8-8 season, same as us.

SoDak Bronco
01-11-2009, 07:51 PM
How about you come to camp this year. I would love to teach you about football with no access to Madden. You little queer.

QFT..lol:spit:

Rohirrim
01-11-2009, 07:51 PM
Mike Tomlin was hired just two years ago at 34. His team is going to the AFC Championship Game. How is he doing it without this gravitas of which you speak?

Tomlin was a month and a half short of 35 and came into a situation with 15 year vet coach Arians taking over the offense and Dick Lebeau, one of the premier veteran, defensive coaches in the NFL for decades, running his defense. What does "Josh" come into? No DC or defensive staff. Jeremy Bates and Dennison and Turner on O. The only old time vet he can rely on is Bobby Turner. I don't see even an inkling of the kind of support in this situation that Tomlin found waiting for him in Pittsburgh.

Pick Six
01-11-2009, 07:52 PM
Does the hidden camera come with McDaniels, or does it stay with Bellichick?

Inkana7
01-11-2009, 07:52 PM
Bruce Arians was a wide receivers coach who was promoted the same year Tomlin was hired.

Bob's your Information Minister
01-11-2009, 07:53 PM
I'm happy for you guys.

Now the Chiefs can get Shanahan and all will be right with the world.

The MVPlaya
01-11-2009, 07:54 PM
It's funny how Broncos fans are unhappy, yet they don't realize they can't do nothing about it. You can either be optimistic and look for positives out of the situation, in which you CANNOT CONTROL... and you'll find much more positive energy around here.

Or, you can be negative like the average person... and fill this board up will negative bull****.

Ratboy
01-11-2009, 07:54 PM
God I can't wait to quote you in the future.

QFT

Hercules Rockefeller
01-11-2009, 07:57 PM
It's funny how Broncos fans are unhappy, yet they don't realize they can't do nothing about it. You can either be optimistic and look for positives out of the situation, in which you CANNOT CONTROL... and you'll find much more positive energy around here.


QFT. People need to relax and hope for the best. Pat's not going to change his mind because people are pissed on the Internetz.

tsiguy96
01-11-2009, 07:57 PM
how about you idiots wait to see waht he does for the team and how he performs before hoping he fails and we get a new HC. how ****ing stupid.

Tyrant
01-11-2009, 07:58 PM
I'm 50/50 on this hire, but damn I enjoy the drama on this board...

http://www.philhower.com/images/1337/i-like-where-this-thread-is-going.jpg

i4jelway7
01-11-2009, 07:58 PM
It's funny how Broncos fans are unhappy, yet they don't realize they can't do nothing about it. You can either be optimistic and look for positives out of the situation, in which you CANNOT CONTROL... and you'll find much more positive energy around here.

Or, you can be negative like the average person... and fill this board up will negative bull****.

we as fans have a right to fill up these internet forums with negative bull**** b/c we can't do anything about it and that is how we voice our opinions when good or bad regarding our teams...

IMO Bowlen screwed the pooch.. not so much w/ Mcdonalds but w/ Dom Capers as the DC.. we are still screwed on the defensive side of the ball.. nothing is going to change

socalorado
01-11-2009, 07:59 PM
It's funny how Broncos fans are unhappy, yet they don't realize they can't do nothing about it. You can either be optimistic and look for positives out of the situation, in which you CANNOT CONTROL... and you'll find much more positive energy around here.

Or, you can be negative like the average person... and fill this board up will negative bull****.

QFT! RElax! Lets see what the kids got. Like it could get any worse.

Inkana7
01-11-2009, 08:00 PM
we as fans have a right to fill up these internet forums with negative bull**** b/c we can't do anything about it and that is how we voice our opinions when good or bad regarding our teams...

IMO Bowlen screwed the pooch.. not so much w/ Mcdonalds but w/ Dom Capers as the DC.. we are still screwed on the defensive side of the ball.. nothing is going to change

Holy ****, dude. Everything is speculation!! Nothing about the DC is for sure! So stop bitching!

broncswin
01-11-2009, 08:00 PM
Are you seriously dumb enough to think the two situations are even remotely comparable? Wow.

So who's your new team??;D

The MVPlaya
01-11-2009, 08:01 PM
QFT. People need to relax and hope for the best. Pat's not going to change his mind because people are pissed on the Internetz.

I don't' get it, you said QFT and essentially agreed with what I was saying?

:pimp:

EDIT
Aww my bad, I thought QFT meant quit ****in talking...

The MVPlaya
01-11-2009, 08:02 PM
QFT! RElax! Lets see what the kids got. Like it could get any worse.

Exactly! That's what I'm saying. I'm happy with the hire...

SoDak Bronco
01-11-2009, 08:02 PM
i believe mort over the denver post, I hope dom is out of the picture, maybe we bring in the guy from philly..

socalorado
01-11-2009, 08:02 PM
we as fans have a right to fill up these internet forums with negative bull**** b/c we can't do anything about it and that is how we voice our opinions when good or bad regarding our teams...
IMO Bowlen screwed the pooch.. not so much w/ Mcdonalds but w/ Dom Capers as the DC.. we are still screwed on the defensive side of the ball.. nothing is going to change
http://www.bbc.co.uk/parenting/images/300/baby_crying_closeup.jpg

broncswin
01-11-2009, 08:02 PM
You think he will bring over some spy gate tactics???

Drek
01-11-2009, 08:04 PM
Are you seriously dumb enough to think the two situations are even remotely comparable? Wow.

Explain how they differ then.

Tomlin was a defensive guy for a team that already was great defensively and had Dick LaBeau (one of the best DCs in football) on the staff.

They could've kept Ken Wisenhunt, an experienced OC on their very own team.

Instead they took Mike Tomlin and have by and large just benefited from the decision.

You saying that two years makes that big a difference?

Oh, and Tomlin only had one years a coordinator and was only five years removed from being a positional assistant at perennial football powerhouse University of Cincinnati.

Ratboy
01-11-2009, 08:05 PM
we as fans have a right to fill up these internet forums with negative bull**** b/c we can't do anything about it and that is how we voice our opinions when good or bad regarding our teams...

IMO Bowlen screwed the pooch.. not so much w/ Mcdonalds but w/ Dom Capers as the DC.. we are still screwed on the defensive side of the ball.. nothing is going to change

QQ

lex
01-11-2009, 08:05 PM
They were coming off an 8-8 season, same as us.

They already had a defense and a lot of an offense. They had just let Faneca walk but other than that they had pieces. But remember, Ben had his motorcycle accident too.

Dukes
01-11-2009, 08:05 PM
we as fans have a right to fill up these internet forums with negative bull**** b/c we can't do anything about it and that is how we voice our opinions when good or bad regarding our teams...

IMO Bowlen screwed the pooch.. not so much w/ Mcdonalds but w/ Dom Capers as the DC.. we are still screwed on the defensive side of the ball.. nothing is going to change

http://osmoothie.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/crying-baby-party-56800676.jpg

Inkana7
01-11-2009, 08:06 PM
They already had a defense and a lot of an offense. They had just let Faneca walk but other than that they had pieces. But remember, Ben had his motorcycle accident too.

We had a running back accident.

Rohirrim
01-11-2009, 08:07 PM
It's funny how Broncos fans are unhappy, yet they don't realize they can't do nothing about it. You can either be optimistic and look for positives out of the situation, in which you CANNOT CONTROL... and you'll find much more positive energy around here.

Or, you can be negative like the average person... and fill this board up will negative bull****.

Don't be an ass. I disagree with the choice. Doesn't mean I'm going to lose my mind over it. No wonder this place was renamed "Thunderdome." Every response on here has to be pure bliss or meltdown, with no other options available. :bs:

Out of the available choices, I believe McDaniels is the most risky. Being a Broncos fan, I'll root for McDaniels to succeed. Obviously. As far as being part of a simple discussion into speculating how I think it's going to work out, I would take the side of the discussion that says the odds are not great. As I stated, my reasoning is that McDaniels is very young, and unlike Tomlin, he does not come into a situation where he gets any veteran support within the organization. He's a very young coach, coming into a very young team, with very little veteran support. Anybody who doesn't see the danger in that is living in Pollyanna land.

lex
01-11-2009, 08:07 PM
So who's your new team??;D

Its not that I have a new team as much as its that many Broncos "fans" are really closet Patriots fans.

Drek
01-11-2009, 08:08 PM
we as fans have a right to fill up these internet forums with negative bull**** b/c we can't do anything about it and that is how we voice our opinions when good or bad regarding our teams...

IMO Bowlen screwed the pooch.. not so much w/ Mcdonalds but w/ Dom Capers as the DC.. we are still screwed on the defensive side of the ball.. nothing is going to change

You don't have the right to fire all your worthless projectile vomit onto whatever board you chose to frequent though.

You and Lex are providing absolutely ZERO to this discussion. You can't make good arguments for why this is so bad other than your personal opinions which mean about as much as the substance in the cup from "two girls, one cup".

The rest of us don't feel like listening to your **** if you aren't going to contribute anything. Unfortunately TJ is way too hands off on this board so he'll let you keep spamming with your whiney little bitchfest. Its a big reason why this board is in decline. So enjoy your little hissy, just don't be surprised that the rest of us don't want to listen to you.

Ironlung
01-11-2009, 08:09 PM
How about you come to camp this year. I would love to teach you about football with no access to Madden. You little queer.

QFT. (the last part)

broncosteven
01-11-2009, 08:10 PM
Anyone else thinking the real reason Bowlen hired this guy is because we play the Pats and he wants to milk all the Pat's plays from him?

Just think he weaken's Belly's staff, steals their plays and we end up only losing by 24 this year!

Yay!

lex
01-11-2009, 08:11 PM
You don't have the right to fire all your worthless projectile vomit onto whatever board you chose to frequent though.

You and Lex are providing absolutely ZERO to this discussion. You can't make good arguments for why this is so bad other than your personal opinions which mean about as much as the substance in the cup from "two girls, one cup".

The rest of us don't feel like listening to your **** if you aren't going to contribute anything. Unfortunately TJ is way too hands off on this board so he'll let you keep spamming with your whiney little b****fest. Its a big reason why this board is in decline. So enjoy your little hissy, just don't be surprised that the rest of us don't want to listen to you.

Why? Because you cant discern an apple from an orange? I fail to see how thats my problem.

broncosteven
01-11-2009, 08:13 PM
...

You and Lex are providing absolutely ZERO to this discussion. You can't make good arguments for why this is so bad other than your personal opinions which mean about as much as the substance in the cup from "two girls, one cup".
...

Maybe their cycles have syncronized? :egbgb: :cowgirl: :curtsey:

Taco John
01-11-2009, 08:13 PM
The rest of us don't feel like listening to your **** if you aren't going to contribute anything. Unfortunately TJ is way too hands off on this board so he'll let you keep spamming with your whiney little b****fest. Its a big reason why this board is in decline. So enjoy your little hissy, just don't be surprised that the rest of us don't want to listen to you.



Waaaaaa! TJ wont ban people who disagree with me!

Taco John
01-11-2009, 08:16 PM
Don't be an ass. I disagree with the choice. Doesn't mean I'm going to lose my mind over it. No wonder this place was renamed "Thunderdome." Every response on here has to be pure bliss or meltdown, with no other options available. :bs:

Out of the available choices, I believe McDaniels is the most risky. Being a Broncos fan, I'll root for McDaniels to succeed. Obviously. As far as being part of a simple discussion into speculating how I think it's going to work out, I would take the side of the discussion that says the odds are not great. As I stated, my reasoning is that McDaniels is very young, and unlike Tomlin, he does not come into a situation where he gets any veteran support within the organization. He's a very young coach, coming into a very young team, with very little veteran support. Anybody who doesn't see the danger in that is living in Pollyanna land.


This pretty much sums up the way I feel about this hire. I think the odds are against us, and am preparing myself for some hard times ahead. I just think that it's a high risk move with more potential for downside than upside.

That said, the kid is a Bronco now, whether I agree with the move or not. The only thing I can do is hold out hope that whatever upside he has actually materializes.

Ratboy
01-11-2009, 08:17 PM
Waaaaaa! Taco wont ban people who disagree with me!

Yeah, but Taco does ban members without following his own rules.

Taco John pictured below.

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Arts/Arts_/Pictures/2007/08/08/hitler460.jpg

wolf754life
01-11-2009, 08:17 PM
guys, calm down, you know how this is a good hire? the reaction its creating.

think about this for a minute.

the underachievers out at dove valley have officially been put on notice, josh brings something this franchise has needed desperately for a long time.

FRESH ENERGY

players will react to him, and the ones that don't like it hit the highway.

there is nothing wrong with hiring the most aggressive, knowledgeable, and successful young coaches in the NFL.

game on, I think we are all in for one hell of a ride, and watch this offense go from 16th in scoring to the top 5.

The entire D staff and special teams are gone and will be rebuilt from the ground up.... thats a great thing, and we will incorporate a Bellicheck personnel mindset on that 3-4 rebuild.

no one is even talking about what this is going to do for Jay Cutler.

good times ahead fanboys!

good times indeed!

feel that? a young hungry pulse for our beloved broncos!

i4jelway7
01-11-2009, 08:18 PM
You don't have the right to fire all your worthless projectile vomit onto whatever board you chose to frequent though.

sorry but I do

You and Lex are providing absolutely ZERO to this discussion. You can't make good arguments for why this is so bad other than your personal opinions which mean about as much as the substance in the cup from "two girls, one cup".

isn't personal opinions what a forum discussion is about?

The rest of us don't feel like listening to your **** if you aren't going to contribute anything. Unfortunately TJ is way too hands off on this board so he'll let you keep spamming with your whiney little b****fest. Its a big reason why this board is in decline. So enjoy your little hissy, just don't be surprised that the rest of us don't want to listen to you.

Spamming??? not quite.. just expressing my opinion like the rest of the ppl on this board..
You don't have to read and respond if you don't want to.. eat a d!ck Drek.. what makes you the spokesperson for the board?

do yourself a favor and stay out of my posts

Taco John
01-11-2009, 08:19 PM
Yeah, but Taco does ban members without following his own rules.

Taco John pictured below.

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Arts/Arts_/Pictures/2007/08/08/hitler460.jpg



Yeah, I'm Hitler because I banned you for using family members to talk smack.

The MVPlaya
01-11-2009, 08:22 PM
we as fans have a right to fill up these internet forums with negative bull**** b/c we can't do anything about it and that is how we voice our opinions when good or bad regarding our teams...

IMO Bowlen screwed the pooch.. not so much w/ Mcdonalds but w/ Dom Capers as the DC.. we are still screwed on the defensive side of the ball.. nothing is going to change

I'm not denying your rights, neither am I telling you to not voice your opinions. I'm telling you that your opinions is predictable and causes nothing but negativity. Why? Why get mad? Why get mad at something you have no control over, and something that you cannot predict?

For all you know, he can very well turn this franchise around and take it 16-0...have historic seasons with Jay Cutler... because you know he was actually a part of that season with the Pats... not only THAT season but you've quickly probably forgotten the Pats basically owned this decade.

broncswin
01-11-2009, 08:24 PM
Hey by the way we got a new head coach tonight

troya900
01-11-2009, 08:24 PM
Yeah, I'm Hitler because I banned you for using family members to talk smack.

You banned him because of the coat hanger remark I'm assuming? I think that's a little weak with all the crap that's talked here constantly. Maybe I'm wrong though and he was banned for something else.

ro_50
01-11-2009, 08:24 PM
It will be hard for the Broncos players to respect the guy cuz he's young, but they have to deal with it cuz he's their coach now. I think they will.

And for people bashing the Capers pick, how do we know how good or bad of a job is he going to do.

The defense was so bad that it has nowhere to go but up. So a 3-4 approach I'm all for.

It's not like Denver has capable players to run a 4-3. The defense was god awful.

enjolras
01-11-2009, 08:24 PM
I hate the Patriots. This is going to take a lot time to accept.

I hate the Raiders, but I didn't hold that against Shannahan.

broncosteven
01-11-2009, 08:24 PM
guys, calm down, you know how this is a good hire? the reaction its creating.

think about this for a minute.

the underachievers out at dove valley have officially been put on notice, josh brings something this franchise has needed desperately for a long time.

FRESH ENERGY

players will react to him, and the ones that don't like it hit the highway.

there is nothing wrong with hiring the most aggressive, knowledgeable, and successful young coaches in the NFL.

game on, I think we are all in for one hell of a ride, and watch this offense go from 16th in scoring to the top 5.

The entire D staff and special teams are gone and will be rebuilt from the ground up.... thats a great thing, and we will incorporate a Bellicheck personnel mindset on that 3-4 rebuild.

no one is even talking about what this is going to do for Jay Cutler.

good times ahead fanboys!

good times indeed!

feel that? a young hungry pulse for our beloved broncos!

If you wanted fresh energy stick your dick in a electric socket.

If players were not listening to a HC that has been to the top of the NFL TWICE what makes you think they are going to listen to someone their age or younger?

I am hoping this guy takes this team to the next step but if Bowlen is expecting to win every year I am now expecting it, I will be competing with you to start the "fire Mickey D" thread.

Dukes
01-11-2009, 08:24 PM
guys, calm down, you know how this is a good hire? the reaction its creating.

think about this for a minute.

the underachievers out at dove valley have officially been put on notice, josh brings something this franchise has needed desperately for a long time.

FRESH ENERGY

players will react to him, and the ones that don't like it hit the highway.

there is nothing wrong with hiring the most aggressive, knowledgeable, and successful young coaches in the NFL.

game on, I think we are all in for one hell of a ride, and watch this offense go from 16th in scoring to the top 5.

The entire D staff and special teams are gone and will be rebuilt from the ground up.... thats a great thing, and we will incorporate a Bellicheck personnel mindset on that 3-4 rebuild.

no one is even talking about what this is going to do for Jay Cutler.

good times ahead fanboys!

good times indeed!

feel that? a young hungry pulse for our beloved broncos!

Seeing you post something so positive is a little creepy

i4jelway7
01-11-2009, 08:27 PM
It will be hard for the Broncos players to respect the guy cuz he's young, but they have to deal with it cuz he's their coach now. I think they will.

And for people bashing the Capers pick, how do we know how good or bad of a job is he going to do.

The defense was so bad that it has nowhere to go but up. So a 3-4 approach I'm all for.

It's not like Denver has capable players to run a 4-3. The defense was god awful.


we are farther away talent wise for a 3-4 than a 4-3

will Capers improve our D.. sure how could he not.. will the D be a top 10 ranked unit.. not with Capers as the DC

SouthStndJunkie
01-11-2009, 08:28 PM
Josh McDaniels was not my first choice.

That said, I did not sit in on the interview process, so I don't know exactly what our new head coach will be bringing to the table.

lex
01-11-2009, 08:29 PM
Josh McDaniels was not my first choice.

That said, I did not sit in on the interview process, so I don't know exactly what our new head coach will be bringing to the table.

What did he do at New England?

Dukes
01-11-2009, 08:29 PM
Coincidence that RT can't be given rep for this post?

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/nvrsumr/untitled-1.jpg

Rohirrim
01-11-2009, 08:30 PM
I explained to my wife who the Broncos hired and she said, "That's good. A new, fresh outlook for the team." Hmmm.

Maybe I'm just too cynical. ???

TheDave
01-11-2009, 08:31 PM
Coincidence that RT can't be given rep for this post?

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/nvrsumr/untitled-1.jpg




I'm thinking he might be in "Time Out"...

Dukes
01-11-2009, 08:33 PM
I'm thinking he might be in "Time Out"...

Which makes his original post even better :rofl:

gyldenlove
01-11-2009, 08:33 PM
We are in a giant steamy elephant sized load of doo, Cutler is going to learn a new system, our offensive line that is tailor made to a certain way of blocking is going to be asked to block for a shotgun based spread offense and that is just not their strong suit, the Ryans should be fine but I do expect Ben Hamilton will play the role of whipping boy. Marshall will have to play the role of a slower Randy Moss and Royal will play the role of Wes Welker with more physical talent. I expect Daniel Graham will be fired or leave because he already left this type of system once, however Tony Scheffler if he ever finds an injury he wouldn't like to have should fit the system well as a whiter edition of Ben Watson.

Our defense is of course going to keep on being the huge stinkfest it has been for years now, I would optimistically set the over/under on our total defensive ranking at 31.5 next year, because I have hope that at least the Saints will be worse with our old DL ru(i)ning their defensive front.

I have all the confidence in the world that guys like Champ Bailey and Casey Wiegman will be happy taking orders from a guy whose lunch money they stole in basic school.

Sewer rats in Houston as in less **** than we are.

The absolutely only good thing to come out of this is that we will finaly get that top draft pick we haven't had for so long and hopefully by that time Bowlen will have gotten his rookie wage scale so we won't have to fork over 200 million and the deed to Invesco to the rookie QB we will have to draft because Cutler is going to fail in this new system.

troya900
01-11-2009, 08:34 PM
I'm thinking he might be in "Time Out"...


That is just ridiculous ???

Drek
01-11-2009, 08:36 PM
Waaaaaa! TJ wont ban people who disagree with me!

Actually, I got no problems with disagreement. I'm a naturally disagreeable and argumentative person.

But when someone basically posts the same thing in every single thread, a whiney line about how we're all doomed with no substantive worth whatsoever, and those comments quickly devolve into flame wars between them and other users, well, most boards call that 1. spamming and 2. trolling.

Last I knew most boards cleaned that up. I know you don't like to, thats fine. Still better than most sports boards. But then people wonder why a lot of the best, more informed, mature posters chose to not poke their heads in much anymore.

I've frequented more than my fair share of message boards. I've moderated a handful. Some of them have even had a pretty sizable "insider" constituency. A big part of preserving that is letting people know that not all opinions are created equal. That if all you're going to contribute is a hissy fit then you can just as easily save it and save the board the filler. You haven't done that here. Again, your choice. But thats why this place is becoming more of an ESPN forum-esque environment with a dozen threads on the same news article and people regurgitating the same bull**** across all discussions.

baja
01-11-2009, 08:36 PM
No...I'm talking real hard times, like say KC this past season if they screw up the DC hire and start doing equally stupid things like selecting an offensive player @ #12 in the draft and the like.

why would that happen he is the HC not the GM

i4jelway7
01-11-2009, 08:36 PM
welcome to mediocrity

gunns
01-11-2009, 08:39 PM
I'll reserve judgment although I am disappointed that Bowlen doesn't seem to have entered the 2000's either. I'll give the kid a chance. I just hope that this Belichick off spring does a better job than the others.

ohiobronco2
01-11-2009, 08:39 PM
I wonder what Oleg thinks of this hire.

lex
01-11-2009, 08:40 PM
This team is rudderless.

enjolras
01-11-2009, 08:40 PM
I have all the confidence in the world that guys like Champ Bailey and Casey Wiegman will be happy taking orders from a guy whose lunch money they stole in basic school.

Both seem to be absolute professionals, so my bet is that they're going to be just fine.

Christ, you act like a young person has never led anything successful. There are lots of examples just in sports. For instance, Theo Epstein with the Boston Red Sox. He was 28 when he was hired. They've gone from winning ZERO championships in 86 frickin years to two titles in 4 years.

There are lots of young people at the helm of some pretty powerful companies. They can effectively lead a bunch of ivy league MBA's, why the hell can't he lead a football team?

NUB
01-11-2009, 08:41 PM
*dramatically takes off glasses* ... my god...


I'm gonna wait to the draft to get a true feel for this one. I wanted Spags, but to be frank any of the coaches would have felt weird because it is what it is, a new guy in town. Nobody likes new things or ideas; that's pretty natural. Therefore, I will join in the collective pants-****ting as soon as we draft a receiver with our first pick or something.

Ironlung
01-11-2009, 08:43 PM
welcome to mediocrity

1 playoff win in 10 yrs. and 3 straight yrs. with no playoffs, and you're citing McDaniels the reason why we'll be mediocre?

Mediator12
01-11-2009, 08:48 PM
I just find it funny that Adam Shefter finally got his ass scooped on a DEN story. This definitely came from Mcdaniels camp....

You all are about to see a major culture change out of Dove Valley.

jhat01
01-11-2009, 08:54 PM
I just find it funny that Adam Shefter finally got his ass scooped on a DEN story. This definitely came from Mcdaniels camp....

You all are about to see a major culture change out of Dove Valley.

Exactly what the team needed imo. New, fresh, exciting, unknown. We've been stuck in the same predictable rut for too long.

Sassy
01-11-2009, 08:55 PM
I just find it funny that Adam Shefter finally got his ass scooped on a DEN story. This definitely came from Mcdaniels camp....

You all are about to see a major culture change out of Dove Valley.

So med you like this pick?

Taco John
01-11-2009, 08:56 PM
That is just ridiculous ???

If he wants me to fill the role of Hitler for him, I'm more than happy to oblige him.

chawknz
01-11-2009, 08:56 PM
Woot! Looking forward to seeing what he can bring to the Broncos and shut up all the cry baby nay-sayers.

GO MCDANIELS!

Goobzilla
01-11-2009, 09:03 PM
So wait....Romo didn't get the job?

Well, I guess McDaniels is a decent fallback choice. ;D

Taco John
01-11-2009, 09:05 PM
So wait....Romo didn't get the job?

Well, I guess McDaniels is a decent fallback choice. ;D



McDaniels was able to embed video into his power point presenation. Romo's got nothing.

montrose
01-11-2009, 09:05 PM
So wait....Romo didn't get the job?

Well, I guess McDaniels is a decent fallback choice. ;D

Vic Lombardi reported tonight that Romo would love to be a part of the Broncos organization.

eddie mac
01-11-2009, 09:05 PM
we are farther away talent wise for a 3-4 than a 4-3

will Capers improve our D.. sure how could he not.. will the D be a top 10 ranked unit.. not with Capers as the DC

How the hell do you know that???

From what I'm hearing from many Patriot fans that I know he'll be sorely missed in NE as will McD. Apparently the progress he made with Wheatley and Wilhite was something else this season.

TheReverend
01-11-2009, 09:13 PM
I actually like this hiring.