Let's Hope That Bowlen Doesn't Screw This Up

[telluride]

That means:

No cronies. Which means no GM or HC with old ties to the Broncos. No Fassel. No 'Dinger. No Kubiak. We need new blood.

No amateurs as GM. Which means no Elway. No Goodmans. We need a real, proven, experienced GM to rework our front office. Let the Goodmans learn under a Pioli or Parcells.

No, "we're just one person away" approach. Which means not simply hiring a HC and leaving the front office essentially as is. We need a clean break from past debacles. Keep Turner and maybe Dennison; the rest of the coaching and training staff must go. Keep the Goodmans as asst. GMs; the rest of the front office must go.

My fear is that Bowlen tries to do this on the cheap. Hires a HC and then lets Elway play GM. Which would be a disaster. This franchise needs a full reboot, not a tweak. And Bowlen needs to seize this opportunity. A Pioli or a Parcells as GM. Plus a Spags or Ferentz. Be bold.

[tsiguy96]

elway is not an operations guy, i dont know why he should ever even be considered for the GM job.

[telluride]

elway is not an operations guy, i dont know why he should ever even be considered for the GM job.

That's probably the scariest scenario I've heard. We don't want Elway anywhere near the front office.

[bronco militia]

John Goodman will probably be the GM

[DenverBrit]

That means:

No cronies. Which means no GM or HC with old ties to the Broncos. No Fassel. No 'Dinger. No Kubiak. We need new blood.

No amateurs as GM. Which means no Elway. No Goodmans. We need a real, proven, experienced GM to rework our front office. Let the Goodmans learn under a Pioli or Parcells.

No, "we're just one person away" approach. Which means not simply hiring a HC and leaving the front office essentially as is. We need a clean break from past debacles. Keep Turner and maybe Dennison; the rest of the coaching and training staff must go. Keep the Goodmans as asst. GMs; the rest of the front office must go.

My fear is that Bowlen tries to do this on the cheap. Hires a HC and then let's Elway play GM. Which would be a disaster. This franchise needs a full reboot, not a tweak. And Bowlen needs to seize this opportunity. A Pioli or a Parcells as GM. Plus a Spags or Ferentz. Be bold.

Do your own thoughts scare you much? LOL
You have a lot of demands for someone who doesn't own stock.

[telluride]

Do your own thoughts scare you much? LOL
You have a lot of demands for someone who doesn't own stock.

I am a stockholder. We all are. Anyone who cares enough about the Broncos to spend time on this board owns a piece of them. We're invested.

[snowspot66]

Seeing as how the Goodman's are a big reason for our recent drafts I have no issue with them taking the GM spot.

[socalorado]

I am a stockholder. We all are. Anyone who cares enough about the Broncos to spend time on this board owns a piece of them. We're invested.

Aw, cumrag, just be happy shannys gone! give it a rest will ya!??!
Now your acting like a freakin whiner about the next GM and HC already.
just relax, go have some chips and dip. Jeez.

[DenverBrit]

I am a stockholder. We all are. Anyone who cares enough about the Broncos to spend time on this board owns a piece of them. We're invested.

The nearest you will get is as a season ticket holder.....otherwise, you're not a stockholder.
If you think posting 'I hate Shanahan' threads makes you a stockholder.....you're really delusional.
Spending time in a fan board means you're a fan, not a stockholder.

But keep dreaming.

[rastaman]

That's probably the scariest scenario I've heard. We don't want Elway anywhere near the front office.

I'd be comfortable with Elway so long as its a mentorship learning position of how to become a GM over lets say 3-5 year period.

[rastaman]

Do your own thoughts scare you much? LOL
You have a lot of demands for someone who doesn't own stock.

You must admit....those are some good points!!!

[DenverBrit]

You must admit....those are some good points!!!

Only if you think Bowlen is an incompetent retard. ;D

Seriously. Bowlen is running a business, an $800 million franchise.
He's a smart man who just made a very tough decision that he knew would garner criticism from the Broncos fan base and NFL talking heads.
There really is no need to talk down to him, it's his franchise and so far he's made a lot of sound decisions.

Telluride has spent most of his time here demanding Shanahan be fired.
Now that it's happened, he wants to dictate who the next HC will be and who will be the new GM and insists the front office be fired.
You only get to make those demands when you own stock.
Telluride owns no stock.

Oh, and there was no need to start another thread on the topic....it's being beaten to death elsewhere.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Sweet, another new thread with your opinion to go with everyone else's new thread with their opinion on the coaching/GM search.

Maybe someone in the future should just make a single thread with everyone's opinion on the direction they think the franchise should go?

[Steve Sewell]

That means:

No cronies. Which means no GM or HC with old ties to the Broncos. No Fassel. No 'Dinger. No Kubiak. We need new blood.

No amateurs as GM. Which means no Elway. No Goodmans. We need a real, proven, experienced GM to rework our front office. Let the Goodmans learn under a Pioli or Parcells.

No, "we're just one person away" approach. Which means not simply hiring a HC and leaving the front office essentially as is. We need a clean break from past debacles. Keep Turner and maybe Dennison; the rest of the coaching and training staff must go. Keep the Goodmans as asst. GMs; the rest of the front office must go.

My fear is that Bowlen tries to do this on the cheap. Hires a HC and then lets Elway play GM. Which would be a disaster. This franchise needs a full reboot, not a tweak. And Bowlen needs to seize this opportunity. A Pioli or a Parcells as GM. Plus a Spags or Ferentz. Be bold.

I stopped taking this post seriously when you commented that Goodman is an amateur.

Oh and according to your standards, Bowlen has already screwed up because he said, emphatically, that the front office would remain intact.

[watermock]

I'll do it right now!

[oubronco]

Aw, cumrag, just be happy shannys gone! give it a rest will ya!??!
Now your acting like a freakin whiner about the next GM and HC already.
just relax, go have some chips and dip. Jeez.

:spit:

[Taco John]

I am a stockholder. We all are. Anyone who cares enough about the Broncos to spend time on this board owns a piece of them. We're invested.


You should have used the word "stakeholder." People will quibble over the word "stockholder." But they can't say anything about the word "stakeholder."

[Bronx33]

I am a stockholder. We all are. Anyone who cares enough about the Broncos to spend time on this board owns a piece of them. We're invested.


Holy****!

[Taco John]

Sweet, another new thread with your opinion to go with everyone else's new thread with their opinion on the coaching/GM search.

Maybe someone in the future should just make a single thread with everyone's opinion on the direction they think the franchise should go?



People are dreaming if they think a single thread is going to be able to contain the thoughts of such a diverse fan base. I'd be here 24 hours a day merging threads. People are going to have to get used to the idea that it's going to be very "stream of consciousness" around here (and everywhere else for that matter) until we get some solid ground back under us.

[Dagmar]

John Goodman will probably be the GM

An LSU fan?
hmmmm.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/John_Goodman_1989.jpg

[enjolras]

Reading between the lines of Bowlens presser yesterday, Goodman is the GM. That's why he's looking for a coach, not a GM.

[Steve Sewell]

People are dreaming if they think a single thread is going to be able to contain the thoughts of such a diverse fan base. I'd be here 24 hours a day merging threads. People are going to have to get used to the idea that it's going to be very "stream of consciousness" around here (and everywhere else for that matter) until we get some solid ground back under us.

If 50% of the stream of consciousness posts weren't generated by complete buffoons who don't take the time to research their facts and present well thought out opinions, this would be a much more informative board.

[Taco John]

If 50% of the stream of consciousness posts weren't generated by complete buffoons who don't take the time to research their facts and present well thought out opinions, this would be a much more informative board.


Public scorn pretty much does most of the moderating around here. I'm just the guy with the broom, a spray bottle, and a squeege.

[Bronx33]

If 50% of the stream of consciousness posts weren't generated by complete buffoons who don't take the time to research their facts and present well thought out opinions, this would be a much more informative board.


Just being smart enough to use the search function would help and changing the title a little doesn't make it different fact is people don't care if they are posting the same thing over and over and over.

[elsid13]

Public scorn pretty much does most of the moderating around here. I'm just the guy with the broom, a spray bottle, and a squeege.

Don't look now but I am sure Popps is starting a thread why you suck as a janitor, based upon his 30 years of watching cleaning staffs.

[theAPAOps5]

I don't think Elway will be the GM. He may help in the Operations but not the main gig.

[tnedator]

I am a stockholder. We all are. Anyone who cares enough about the Broncos to spend time on this board owns a piece of them. We're invested.

You're customers, not stockholders. If you own a Chevy truck, a hat, jacket and bumper sticker, it doesn't make you a stockholder, it makes you a customer.

If you own GM stock, you are a stockholder.

Same here. You are a 'customer' of the Denver Broncos, not a stockholder.

[go_broncos]

John Goodman will probably be the GM

Why everyone wants Goodman to be GM??

I understand that the Drafts are good for the past 2 years.

But, it is good only on offensive side.

He and Mike are horrible in drafting Defensive players.

We need to hire experienced GM.

[telluride]

Man, you people are literal. I merely mean that we're all invested in the team, as a result of our allegiances and affections.

[telluride]

Why everyone wants Goodman to be GM??

I understand that the Drafts are good for the past 2 years.

But, it is good only on offensive side.

He and Mike are horrible in drafting Defensive players.

We need to hire experienced GM.

Exactly. And the Goodmans' track record for FAs in the last three years has been awful.

[SportinOne]

That means:

No cronies. Which means no GM or HC with old ties to the Broncos. No Fassel. No 'Dinger. No Kubiak. We need new blood.

No amateurs as GM. Which means no Elway. No Goodmans. We need a real, proven, experienced GM to rework our front office. Let the Goodmans learn under a Pioli or Parcells.

No, "we're just one person away" approach. Which means not simply hiring a HC and leaving the front office essentially as is. We need a clean break from past debacles. Keep Turner and maybe Dennison; the rest of the coaching and training staff must go. Keep the Goodmans as asst. GMs; the rest of the front office must go.

My fear is that Bowlen tries to do this on the cheap. Hires a HC and then lets Elway play GM. Which would be a disaster. This franchise needs a full reboot, not a tweak. And Bowlen needs to seize this opportunity. A Pioli or a Parcells as GM. Plus a Spags or Ferentz. Be bold.

I would like to add "No Former Patriots" to this list. First it was Weiss. Then it was "Man Genius" and Crennell... Now it's McDaniels. It's fairly likely, at this point, that the Patriots success has been due to Belichick all along.

[DenverBrit]

Man, you people are literal. I merely mean that we're all invested in the team, as a result of our allegiances and affections.

No, you stated:
I am a stockholder.

That would mean YOU were being literal.
But hey, I'm just busting your chops.
Shanny's gone so relax and let those who have a clue get on with their jobs. ;D

[Drek]

Why everyone wants Goodman to be GM??

I understand that the Drafts are good for the past 2 years.

But, it is good only on offensive side.

He and Mike are horrible in drafting Defensive players.

We need to hire experienced GM.

Jim Goodman has a diverse and strong resume in every aspect of football, he's been our VP of Football Operations/Player Personnel since Sundquist was fired.

Also, Larsen, Woodyard, and Barrett look like real good value for where they were taken. You can't blame the FO for Shanahan being unwilling to spend high picks on D, or (like in 2007) making a pick based on what a coach wanted.

Goodman has experience and he's got two young, experienced assistant GMs behind him. The FO is as qualified as it gets, no need to screw with it.

[TheManeMan]

John Goodman will probably be the GM

http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/John-Goodman---The-Big-Lewbowski-Photograph-C10040204.jpeg

[MechanicalBull]

All I've heard is that Goodman has a huge ego and won't take any input from anyone. I mean just look at this pic of him in his office.

http://www.gomog.com/images/Kingralph.jpg

[bloodsunday]

He may or he may not.

But the level of difficulty that it took to fire Shanahan tells you how serious he takes this obligation. We cannot ask for more.

[Taco John]

Bah. His firing of Shanahan was flippant. The fact that he doesn't really have a plan in place to seat a GM shows that.

There's no reason to praise Bowlen for firing a HOF coach until we see what he does with it.

[Rohirrim]

Bah. His firing of Shanahan was flippant. The fact that he doesn't really have a plan in place to seat a GM shows that.

There's no reason to praise Bowlen for firing a HOF coach until we see what he does with it.

I'm under the impression he intends to move Jim Goodman into the GM seat, given that he hasn't made any overt effort to find a GM.

[oubronco]

I'm under the impression he intends to move Jim Goodman into the GM seat, given that he hasn't made any overt effort to find a GM.

kinda looks that way you would think he would be interviewing GM's first Coaches second but it's his team

[cabronco]

I'm under the impression he intends to move Jim Goodman into the GM seat, given that he hasn't made any overt effort to find a GM.

I thought I heard Bowlen already mention this !?

[orinjkrush]

Bah. His firing of Shanahan was flippant. The fact that he doesn't really have a plan in place to seat a GM shows that.

There's no reason to praise Bowlen for firing a HOF coach until we see what he does with it.

a little presumptive, doncha think? Shanny ended up a little above AVERAGE.

[Raidersbane]

That means:

No cronies. Which means no GM or HC with old ties to the Broncos. No Fassel. No 'Dinger. No Kubiak. We need new blood.

No amateurs as GM. Which means no Elway. No Goodmans. We need a real, proven, experienced GM to rework our front office. Let the Goodmans learn under a Pioli or Parcells.

No, "we're just one person away" approach. Which means not simply hiring a HC and leaving the front office essentially as is. We need a clean break from past debacles. Keep Turner and maybe Dennison; the rest of the coaching and training staff must go. Keep the Goodmans as asst. GMs; the rest of the front office must go.

My fear is that Bowlen tries to do this on the cheap. Hires a HC and then lets Elway play GM. Which would be a disaster. This franchise needs a full reboot, not a tweak. And Bowlen needs to seize this opportunity. A Pioli or a Parcells as GM. Plus a Spags or Ferentz. Be bold.


Damn son, why stop there? Why not demand that Bowlen sell the team and have the new owner move em to another town? Oh and change the team colors to silver and pink while yer at it......