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DarkHorse
12-31-2008, 08:28 PM
Sorry if this is a repost

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80dcae10

Finger Roll
12-31-2008, 08:38 PM
fassell is on the list. yuck

NFLBRONCO
12-31-2008, 08:40 PM
Dinger yuck

DarkHorse
12-31-2008, 08:45 PM
Throw gobs of money at Pete Carroll and force him to pull away from USC


:thanku:


He's got the NFL experience, albeit not very good, and he's the perfect candidate to relate to the leagues 2nd youngest team.

:thumbsup:

HooptyHoops
12-31-2008, 08:45 PM
fassell is on the list. yuck

Fassell SUCKS...he has proven that he can't be a head coach....

theAPAOps5
12-31-2008, 08:45 PM
Neither will be the coach. Adam is speculating, especially on Dinger. He is the guy who told Marshall he would never be a number 1 WR in this league.

HooptyHoops
12-31-2008, 08:47 PM
Yeah, most of the guys they mentioned....no thankyou!! Although, I like the 'so called expert': 'This is going to be a long research from offensive minded coaches to defensive minded coaches, even down to the college level.' Wow, really?

TheDave
12-31-2008, 08:48 PM
Neither will be the coach. Adam is speculating, especially on Dinger. He is the guy who told Marshall he would never be a number 1 WR in this league.

Are you serious? I never heard that.

theAPAOps5
12-31-2008, 08:48 PM
Notice he says not one candidate they hgve zeroed in. In the end they will have crossed Fassel and Dinger off that list. Why fire Shanny to bring in those hacks.

theAPAOps5
12-31-2008, 08:49 PM
Are you serious? I never heard that.

I hadn't either and then on the phone today Montrose told me about it. It was Marshall who said it in an interview. Montrose doesn't make stuff up so I trust he said it.

HooptyHoops
12-31-2008, 08:52 PM
Notice he says not one candidate they hgve zeroed in. In the end they will have crossed Fassel and Dinger off that list. Why fire Shanny to bring in those hacks.

I hear ya...they just mentioned them because they were 'former' Bronco coaches....wow, almost anybody could name drop those guys. Nice work Adam!!

Finger Roll
12-31-2008, 08:52 PM
I could only imagine the outrage on this site if they brought in one of those 2 guys to be the coach. Theirs a reason no other team in the league wants Fassell.

DarkHorse
12-31-2008, 08:54 PM
I hear ya...they just mentioned them because they were 'former' Bronco coaches....wow, almost anybody could name drop those guys. Nice work Adam!!


Shefter has ties with the organization, i'm willing to bet money that when they DO choose a coach, he will be the one of the first if not the first media guys to know.

ZONA
12-31-2008, 09:01 PM
Adam spent about 5 minutes talking and had nothing to say. I hate when all they do is tell you crap you already know.

They are looking for a winner (really?)
The search will not be short, but they will look at every option (really?)
They will look at Offensive and Defensive minded coaches (as compared to what other kind of coaches?)

I mean, he literally spoke for 5 minutes and said nothing.

slyinky
12-31-2008, 09:02 PM
Yeah, most of the guys they mentioned....no thankyou!! Although, I like the 'so called expert': 'This is going to be a long research from offensive minded coaches to defensive minded coaches, even down to the college level.' Wow, really?
Adam Schefter is usually pretty good but I have to agree. What I was shaking my head at was 'the Broncos will come up with a coach that they feel is the best candidate to replace Mike Shanahan.' Ya think?

NFLBRONCO
12-31-2008, 09:04 PM
Only name that scares me is Jason Garrett

DarkHorse
12-31-2008, 09:11 PM
Wow.

The firing is a big deal, in the media ring it's great for publicity. Do you really think Shefter or anyone else wanted to go on camera with absolutely nothing to say?

The only reason they do that ''news'' report by Shefter is because there's people out there that actually believe that the Broncos have a HC in place 8 hrs after the official press conference.

To say that Shefter is a dumbass for that bit is crazy - it's a news outlet and this is a hot topic.

Of course nobody believed he was going to say that Bowlen has a coach in the works.

Sheesh

NFLBRONCO
12-31-2008, 09:16 PM
Can we really rule out Cowher then if they really only started TODAY looking for a new coach.

BroncoMan4ever
12-31-2008, 09:18 PM
Throw gobs of money at Pete Carroll and force him to pull away from USC


:thanku:


He's got the NFL experience, albeit not very good, and he's the perfect candidate to relate to the leagues 2nd youngest team.

:thumbsup:

i think Carroll is a product of having the best players in the country playing for the weakest conference in college football. Put him in the SEC and he doesn't have near as much success as he has had in the PAC 10

So HELL NO!!!

Rock Chalk
12-31-2008, 09:24 PM
i think Carroll is a product of having the best players in the country playing for the weakest conference in college football. Put him in the Big 12 or even SEC and he doesn't have near as much success as he has had in the PAC 10

So HELL NO!!!

Fixed it for you

baja
12-31-2008, 09:41 PM
Are you serious? I never heard that.

Ya he's the same guy that told Watts he had the best hands he had ever seen.

Meck77
12-31-2008, 09:47 PM
Can we really rule out Cowher then if they really only started TODAY looking for a new coach.

Exactly. I heard from a pretty good source the Broncos have been interested in Cowher for over a year now.

cabronco
12-31-2008, 10:02 PM
Really surprised Adam left "Burger Bill" off that list. Thought he's be a shoe in..;D

Taco John
12-31-2008, 10:25 PM
But but but... That Internet rumor this morning told us all that Schefter was going to assure us that Jim fricken Harbaugh was our next coach!

I can't trust the Internet anymore!

Wes Mantooth
12-31-2008, 10:27 PM
Shefter has ties with the organization, i'm willing to bet money that when they DO choose a coach, he will be the one of the first if not the first media guys to know.

I think Schefter's tie just got fired.

Kid A
12-31-2008, 10:28 PM
But but but... That Internet rumor this morning told us all that Schefter was going to assure us that Jim fricken Harbaugh was our next coach!

I can't trust the Internet anymore!

I can almost guarantee that we will have "hired" five different people before this search is up. This is going to be a long month.

Yes, I said month. Hopefully I'm wrong.

BigPlayShay
12-31-2008, 10:29 PM
HC: Jim Schwartz
OC: Jeremy Bates
VP/GM: Jim Goodman

NFLBRONCO
12-31-2008, 10:35 PM
HC: Kisla
DC: Woody Paige

SouthStndJunkie
12-31-2008, 11:16 PM
There is no reason that Denver can't do their research and choose a talented young defensive mind to be the next head coach and have him be successful.

Pittsburgh seems to have hit with Mike Tomlin.

If we don't go with a proven commodity, I want someone with youth, high energy, and enthusiasm.

The kind of coach players will run through a wall for.

DarkHorse
12-31-2008, 11:17 PM
HC: OMane armchair experts
OC: The KC Trolls
DC: The SD Trolls



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Doggcow
12-31-2008, 11:29 PM
Fixed it for you

Yah, Oklahoma really showed USC up in that NC where they were like 7 point favorites over Carroll ;)

bombquixote
01-01-2009, 12:13 AM
Exactly. I heard from a pretty good source the Broncos have been interested in Cowher for over a year now.

A pretty good source, a source so deep throat that even Mike Shanahan didn't know about it. So...I'm guessing your source is Woody Paige.

Natedog24
01-01-2009, 01:06 AM
Fixed it for you

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

In your dreams big 12 homers

BTW: Pac 10 4-0 this bowl season, soon to be 5-0 after the Rose Bowl

Pretty weak alright ;D

BroncoBuff
01-01-2009, 01:29 AM
I mean, he literally spoke for 5 minutes and said nothing.Good point. But the worst guys at that - the champions of talking without saying anything are - Eugene Robinson, a talking head for MSNBC, and Sam Adams on FSRM. Sam Adams talks in endless run-on sentences that have neither beginnings nor endings.

Bob's your Information Minister
01-01-2009, 02:01 AM
You guys oughta bring back Kubiak. He's basically Shanny Lite. Offense tastes great, ego less filling.

cutthemdown
01-01-2009, 02:37 AM
Notice he says not one candidate they hgve zeroed in. In the end they will have crossed Fassel and Dinger off that list. Why fire Shanny to bring in those hacks.

They hire either of those dudes and I don't think I can care much about football anymore. Broncos will friggin stink for yrs.

cutthemdown
01-01-2009, 02:38 AM
You guys oughta bring back Kubiak. He's basically Shanny Lite. Offense tastes great, ego less filling.

We wish we could believe that.

Steve Prefontaine
01-01-2009, 08:06 AM
HC: Kisla
DC: Woody Paige

VP/GM: Stephen A. Smith

Steve Sewell
01-01-2009, 08:21 AM
Fassell SUCKS...he has proven that he can't be a head coach....

You have proven that you don't know **** about football.

Steve Sewell
01-01-2009, 08:32 AM
VP/GM: Stephen A. Smith

I laughed out loud, very nice.

Cito Pelon
01-01-2009, 08:36 AM
Nobody has a clue what's going on in the NFl coaching carousel right now. I heard Skippy Bayless say Dan Reeves is trying to get back into coaching in the NFL. Who's been interviewed for the HC opportunities? Mangini in CLE, that's the only one I've heard. Cowher has only returned phone calls to say no.

Rohirrim
01-01-2009, 08:39 AM
If Bowlen wants to talk to anybody whose team is still playing, he has to wait a while. The press has to keep filling space. So what we get for a month is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah... ad infinitum.

lex
01-01-2009, 08:46 AM
Only name that scares me is Jason Garrett

Jason Garrett might make a better HC than OC. Some guys are like that. As long as he puts good people in place that know what theyre doing, he could be ok.

lex
01-01-2009, 08:50 AM
But but but... That Internet rumor this morning told us all that Schefter was going to assure us that Jim fricken Harbaugh was our next coach!

I can't trust the Internet anymore!]

Harbaugh might not be bad. I wouldnt say he is the best but he has one foot in the pro game and one foot in college and that could help with such a young team. Plus, in Denver he probably has more talent relative to other teams than he does at Stanford. In spite of that, theyve been playing USC tough the last couple of years so he can get his guys up for "big games".

Cito Pelon
01-01-2009, 08:59 AM
If Bowlen wants to talk to anybody whose team is still playing, he has to wait a while. The press has to keep filling space. So what we get for a month is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah... ad infinitum.

Yeah, blah blah blah. I've heard every name from Billick and Carroll through Reeves and Shottenheimer for all the vacancies.

HooptyHoops
01-01-2009, 09:00 AM
You have proven that you don't know **** about football.

So I'm guessing you know everything about football? So, Fassal is the best HC available in you invident wisdom?

Cito Pelon
01-01-2009, 09:12 AM
I think I lost a handful or so of brain cells last nite along with every cent of cash I have playing poker - actually just attempting to play poker. I think I lost every pot I made a stab at. Did Bowlen say yesterday the 'personnel staff' would stay in place?

If so, that means the next HC is not a guy that wants overall power. That leads me to think a younger man is on the list, maybe Spagnuolo?

theAPAOps5
01-01-2009, 09:28 AM
I think I lost a handful or so of brain cells last nite along with every cent of cash I have playing poker - actually just attempting to play poker. I think I lost every pot I made a stab at. Did Bowlen say yesterday the 'personnel staff' would stay in place?

If so, that means the next HC is not a guy that wants overall power. That leads me to think a younger man is on the list, maybe Spagnuolo?

Yes Bowlen said the personnel staff would stay in tact. But that doesn't necessarily mean they will be the GM. They might have a new boss. Not sure how that will work though.

Bowlen also said he will not give absolute power again. That rules out Cowher and to another degree a GM candidate in Pioli(SP?). Its up in the air though.

MechanicalBull
01-01-2009, 09:44 AM
VP/GM: Stephen A. Smith

He can eat his cheese doodles all day long when making important decisions and wipe off his fingers on his orange bronco shirt and no one will notice. It's a win/win.

Cito Pelon
01-01-2009, 10:01 AM
Yes Bowlen said the personnel staff would stay in tact. But that doesn't necessarily mean they will be the GM. They might have a new boss. Not sure how that will work though.

Bowlen also said he will not give absolute power again. That rules out Cowher and to another degree a GM candidate in Pioli(SP?). Its up in the air though.

Also, if I remember right, the only time Bowlen chuckled during the presser was when he was asked if Elway might have a place in the organization. Elway is an intriguing possibility. Dude has business experience galore, he once owned like 15 auto dealerships in the Denver metro area, sold them all and now they're Go, right? Bowlen said something about how Elway is way too busy handling their joint interest in the Crush, but the Crush is out of business last I heard.

socalorado
01-01-2009, 10:30 AM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

In your dreams big 12 homers

BTW: Pac 10 4-0 this bowl season, soon to be 5-0 after the Rose Bowl

Pretty weak alright ;D

OH! Dont tell that to the SC haters here! Someone might cry your talking bout his family and whine to the mods!
Record vs year ranked opponents 2002-2008
1. USC 23-6 .793
7. LSU 18-15 .545
8. Georgia 15-15 .500
10. Auburn 14-16 .467
12. Florida 15-20 .429
27. Tennessee 9-22 .290

Record vs game ranked opponents 2002-2008
1. USC 30-4 .882
5. Georgia 25-14 .641
8. LSU 23-14 .622
13. Florida 22-17 .564
14. Auburn 17-15 .531
31. Alabama 13-20 .394

Record vs year ranked top 10 opponents 2002-2008
1. USC 9-3 .750
5. LSU 6-9 .400
5. Auburn 6-9 .400
8. Florida 7-11 .389
16. Tenn 4-13 .235
18. Georgia 2-7 .222

USC has been far better than any SEC team against the best competition over the last 7 years . In it is nothing but speculation how they would do if they were a member of the SEC . The record indicates they would do quite well . USC has a better record against ranked opponents than Alabama had during their SEC run from 1971-1979 .

socalorado
01-01-2009, 10:30 AM
The PAC 10 has a much better record against other conferences top 10 teams than the SEC , and an almost identical record against all ranked teams . BCS bowl games and bowl games against BCS teams are almost dead even . Where is the weakness the SEC homers speak of ? The PAC 10 has a better performance than the SEC this decade against BCS teams . Do you also believe that the SEC is a weak conference ?

Now let's look at USC's " poor " schedule and results . Stats that follow are for the period of 2002-2008 , when USC became a national player again .

Best winning percentage : 1. USC 81-9 .900
Most games vs BCS teams : 1. USC - 83
Best winning % vs BCS teams : 1. USC 74-9 .892
OOC games vs year ranked opponents : 1. USC -15
OOC games vs year ranked opponents ( no bowls ) 1. FSU - 10 2. USC - 9

Let's look at games vs ranked teams . Included are overall rankings of USC and the top 5 SEC teams in each catagory .


Record vs year ranked opponents 2002-2008
1. USC 23-6 .793
7. LSU 18-15 .545
8. Georgia 15-15 .500
10. Auburn 14-16 .467
12. Florida 15-20 .429
27. Tennessee 9-22 .290

Record vs game ranked opponents 2002-2008
1. USC 30-4 .882
5. Georgia 25-14 .641
8. LSU 23-14 .622
13. Florida 22-17 .564
14. Auburn 17-15 .531
31. Alabama 13-20 .394

Record vs year ranked top 10 opponents 2002-2008
1. USC 9-3 .750
5. LSU 6-9 .400
5. Auburn 6-9 .400
8. Florida 7-11 .389
16. Tenn 4-13 .235
18. Georgia 2-7 .222

Clearly , USC plays a schedule that is comparable to the top SEC teams , yet they perform much better . Contrary to popular opinion , USC gets no love from polls . USC has only made the BCS championship game when they were undefeated . Contrast that with Florida , LSU and Oklahoma , all of whom have multiple appearances with losses on their record .
Looking at this year specifically , USC defeated the # 10 and #13 ranked teams . Contrast that to Alabama who defeated #17 and #24 , and Florida who defeated #4 and #17 . I don't see much difference . USC is penalized because the 2 Washington schools are beyond pathetic . Not much they can do about that . USC scheduled 12 BCS opponents , being the only school in the country to do that . There is not much else they can do about their OOC schedule . It is as good or better , than any other team over the last 7 years . Any suggestion that USC would be improving their OOC scheduling this year by replacing OSU with Oklahoma St , Missouri , LSU or Mississippi shows SEC homer, ignorance and bias .

socalorado
01-01-2009, 10:33 AM
And i think PENN ST gives SC a run for their money today. Best game of all the bowl games. I think it will be close. Far closer than anyone else thinks.

HooptyHoops
01-01-2009, 10:41 AM
And i think PENN ST gives SC a run for their money today. Best game of all the bowl games. I think it will be close. Far closer than anyone else thinks.

Yep, I'm really looking forward to this game!! Great match-up!!

Sodak
01-01-2009, 10:41 AM
So I'm guessing you know everything about football? So, Fassal is the best HC available in you invident wisdom?

Infinite wisdom? You?

HooptyHoops
01-01-2009, 10:47 AM
Infinite wisdom? You?

Nope, I've just been a dumb Broncos fan my whole life....

tsiguy96
01-01-2009, 10:50 AM
now everyone gets why the BCS is the biggest joke in sports. but the "chick-fil-a-bowl" and "tostitos fiesta bowl" and the millions of dollars it brings makes every game matter.

lex
01-01-2009, 10:51 AM
The PAC 10 has a much better record against other conferences top 10 teams than the SEC , and an almost identical record against all ranked teams . BCS bowl games and bowl games against BCS teams are almost dead even . Where is the weakness the SEC homers speak of ? The PAC 10 has a better performance than the SEC this decade against BCS teams . Do you also believe that the SEC is a weak conference ?

Now let's look at USC's " poor " schedule and results . Stats that follow are for the period of 2002-2008 , when USC became a national player again .

Best winning percentage : 1. USC 81-9 .900
Most games vs BCS teams : 1. USC - 83
Best winning % vs BCS teams : 1. USC 74-9 .892
OOC games vs year ranked opponents : 1. USC -15
OOC games vs year ranked opponents ( no bowls ) 1. FSU - 10 2. USC - 9

Let's look at games vs ranked teams . Included are overall rankings of USC and the top 5 SEC teams in each catagory .


Record vs year ranked opponents 2002-2008
1. USC 23-6 .793
7. LSU 18-15 .545
8. Georgia 15-15 .500
10. Auburn 14-16 .467
12. Florida 15-20 .429
27. Tennessee 9-22 .290

Record vs game ranked opponents 2002-2008
1. USC 30-4 .882
5. Georgia 25-14 .641
8. LSU 23-14 .622
13. Florida 22-17 .564
14. Auburn 17-15 .531
31. Alabama 13-20 .394

Record vs year ranked top 10 opponents 2002-2008
1. USC 9-3 .750
5. LSU 6-9 .400
5. Auburn 6-9 .400
8. Florida 7-11 .389
16. Tenn 4-13 .235
18. Georgia 2-7 .222

Clearly , USC plays a schedule that is comparable to the top SEC teams , yet they perform much better . Contrary to popular opinion , USC gets no love from polls . USC has only made the BCS championship game when they were undefeated . Contrast that with Florida , LSU and Oklahoma , all of whom have multiple appearances with losses on their record .
Looking at this year specifically , USC defeated the # 10 and #13 ranked teams . Contrast that to Alabama who defeated #17 and #24 , and Florida who defeated #4 and #17 . I don't see much difference . USC is penalized because the 2 Washington schools are beyond pathetic . Not much they can do about that . USC scheduled 12 BCS opponents , being the only school in the country to do that . There is not much else they can do about their OOC schedule . It is as good or better , than any other team over the last 7 years . Any suggestion that USC would be improving their OOC scheduling this year by replacing OSU with Oklahoma St , Missouri , LSU or Mississippi shows SEC homer, ignorance and bias .

Thats great but they dont have to go through the grind of an SEC season. The losses like the one to Oregon State and Stanford would be more routine. The SEC is brutal. Its a physical league with great athletes and recruiting is incredibly competitive.

Sodak
01-01-2009, 10:53 AM
Nope, I've just been a dumb Broncos fan my whole life....

:thumbs:

socalorado
01-01-2009, 11:30 AM
Thats great but they dont have to go through the grind of an SEC season. The losses like the one to Oregon State and Stanford would be more routine. The SEC is brutal. Its a physical league with great athletes and recruiting is incredibly competitive.

Balderdash! Its not that brutal. Sorry excuse.

rastaman
01-01-2009, 01:27 PM
Can we really rule out Cowher then if they really only started TODAY looking for a new coach.

Cowher is a system Coach. He benefited from how the Rooney's ran a tight ship. While with the Steelers he never had to turn the entire team around, Denver maybe too big of a challenge for him.

Bronx33
01-01-2009, 01:32 PM
Cowher is a system Coach. He benefited from how the Rooney's ran a tight ship. While with the Steelers he never had to turn the entire team around, Denver maybe too big of a challenge for him.


Yep bill is another shanahan ( full control) i think pat want's to get away from that.

rastaman
01-01-2009, 01:39 PM
There is no reason that Denver can't do their research and choose a talented young defensive mind to be the next head coach and have him be successful.

Pittsburgh seems to have hit with Mike Tomlin.

If we don't go with a proven commodity, I want someone with youth, high energy, and enthusiasm.

The kind of coach players will run through a wall for.

That sound like a college coach in a college environment! That won't work in the pros. Professional players making millions of dollars a year won't want to hear that crap.....why do you think they left college in the first place!! Also, there aren't any professional players who will go thru the wall with any coach.....they want to make the big bucks and play long careers, you can't do that if you're the injured list b/c you foolishly went thru the wall for your "YOUNG - HIGH ENERGY COACH"

Dark Helmet
01-02-2009, 04:32 AM
HC: Kisla
DC: Woody Paige

That would be awesome. I would love to see Woody's chalk board behind him in news conferences.

Career Goals: writer (checked), ninja (checked)

elsid13
01-02-2009, 05:28 AM
Harbaugh contract extension being 'finalized'
Michelle Smith, Chronicle Staff Writer

Wednesday, December 31, 2008

(12-30) 23:05 PST -- All signs still point to Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh signing a contract extension with the Cardinal, despite the fact that his name has surfaced as a potential candidate for the Raiders' head-coaching job.

Harbaugh, who was not available for comment Tuesday, has not been contacted by the Raiders, according to his agent, Jack Bechta. Bechta, responding by e-mail, said the work on Harbaugh's extension at Stanford is ongoing.

Stanford athletic director Bob Bowlsby said via e-mail that Harbaugh's extension is in the process of being "finalized."

"We have agreed to all terms and we are in the process of finalizing the documents," Bowlsby said. "I have not been contacted by the Raiders, nor have Jim or his agent."

Harbaugh, who is 9-15 in two seasons as the Cardinal's head coach, said in November that he intended to sign a three-year extension at Stanford at the end of the season. The extension would put him under contract with Stanford through 2014.

The Chronicle reported Tuesday that Harbaugh could be interviewed by Raiders owner Al Davis for the head-coaching position.


E-mail Michelle Smith at msmith@sfchronicle.com.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/12/31/SPPJ151ALE.DTL

This article appeared on page D - 2 of the San Francisco Chronicle

Wes Mantooth
01-02-2009, 05:41 AM
Thats great but they dont have to go through the grind of an SEC season. The losses like the one to Oregon State and Stanford would be more routine. The SEC is brutal. Its a physical league with great athletes and recruiting is incredibly competitive.

Oregon State is underrated while also being a consistent overacheiver.

They are what, 9-0 in bowl games under Coach Riley.