Well who else is crying?

[baja]

Mike Shanahan is a great man and we will all miss him.

I am proud to be a broncos fan.

A place for random thoughts about the press conference.

[rugbythug]

+1

[BlaK-Argentina]

Almost, but I'm not alone right now. I think I would be if I was alone.

[theAPAOps5]

Felt the tears coming, I am at work so I had to think of tanks, guns, and other guy stuff to keep them at bay. Man its a sad day.

[Steve Sewell]

I did. Got my office door closed though.

[baja]

so much to talk about.

Pat will never win an award for public speaking.

How hard that must have been

I was shocked to see Pat has no ral plan to move forward with.

Shanahan is all class and will be very hard to replace

No way to know if pat made the right decision but I do believe mike when he said Pat Bowlen is the best owner in sports.

Goodmans stay Great news!

[Kaylore]

I didn't but I was pretty close and totally understand why someone else would. What a sad and yet cool day.

[lazarus4444]

I cried like a baby. What a momentous day for this organization. I hope they pick the right coach.

[baja]

Wish Pat had followed my desire to give Mike one more year but I respect the hell out of him for having the courage it obviously took to do what he felt was in the best interest of the Broncos.

At least we know Mike is not going to KC, he said he will coach for an owner that wants to win.

[BlaK-Argentina]

What a way to end the year, huh?

[cartel]

that was tough to watch, just like when john at his retirement. he spoke about the offense often. it's too bad he could never get the defense right. i'll hate slowik forever because of this.

[no-pseudo-fan]

Pat is funny without meaning to be sometimes. He is not a public speaker at all. I think he has people on the hiring of coaches front. Today is tough on everybody. Next year will be better.

[sirhcyennek81]

Fags.

Kidding. It is a sad day.


:Broncos:

[Meck77]

I was shocked to see Pat has no ral plan to move forward with.


I admit that was interesting but it's not like Pat is going to say who he's targeting as coach. That would be foolish.

I kinda liken this situation to breaking up with a girlfriend you actually love. You can't exactly explain why you do it, she may be hot, she may have "been a champion" but you know she's not the gal you want to marry. ;D

There is certainly more to this story but Pat and Shanny's friendship runs too deep to air it out to the public. It's better that way.

[theAPAOps5]

Baja, Bowlen may not have considered the next coach and/or GM but I bet you anything his personnel have. There is planning and a list probably on Bowlens desk right now.

[broncosteven]

Wish Pat had followed my desire to give Mike one more year but I respect the hell out of him for having the courage it obviously took to do what he felt was in the best interest of the Broncos.

At least we know Mike is not going to KC, he said he will coach for an owner that wants to win.

I don't want to start anything but I thought you were fed up and wanted this change after the SD loss. I could have misinterpreted.

I was hoping for one year also. It would have been clear in 09 that Shanny was done and sucked or could get us deep in playoffs. I guess Bowlen didn't have the patience to see.

[cabronco]

It was tough not to. Even in Bowlen's robotic nature & seeing him get choked up about the decision. Mike was all class as usual and he getting choked up talking about his relationship with Bowlen, Peronnel, players, and families, but he could relate Pat's thinking, because Mikes' had to make tough decisions. Some team will get a very good coach with Shanahan , I hope we get the right coaches as well. Like Adam Shefter said, I think this works out well for both sides.

[llayne]

+ 1. Could not help myself. seem like Pat and Shanny were on the verge too.

[Rohirrim]

Happy New Year, my fellow Bronco fans.


Weird, eh?

[baja]

I admit that was interesting but it's not like Pat is going to say who he's targeting as coach. That would be foolish.

I kinda liken this situation to breaking up with a girlfriend you actually love. You can't exactly explain why you do it, she may be hot, she may have "been a champion" but you know she's not the gal you want to marry. ;D

There is certainly more to this story but Pat and Shanny's friendship runs too deep to air it out to the public. It's better that way.

I really don't get the feeling there is more to the story but who knows. That's a good analogy about breaking up with the GF you still love. That was so hard for them both. You almost wish they could kiss and make up 'D

[BroncoMan4ever]

Pat isn't tupping his hand. you don't fire the best coach in the league on a whim. you have replacements in mind and with the front office staying with the team, they are already at work in finding a new guy.

[Kid A]

I'm not crying. It's just been raining...



on my face.

[EmpireOrange]

Sack up you bunch of pansies It is this kind of bs nostalgia that got this team in this mess. Hey Pat!, (Tumbs Up)

[baja]

Happy New Year, my fellow Bronco fans.


Weird, eh?

ya this all has a surreal feel to it.

I think we are going to win the SB next season.

[SoCalBronco]

I definitely did. I just finished watching that whole thing. I'm glad they had it on here. I am still VERY BITTER and VERY UPSET with Bowlen, but its obvious that it was extremely painful for him. I thought Shanahan was a complete class act. I feel really bad that he will not be able to enjoy the fruits of his labor (i.e. the development of Cutler, Marshall, Royal, Scheffler, Hillis etc. his offense). It was obvious that this was something he really wanted to see, and in my view DESERVED to see.

This is really, really heartbreaking for me and it was so hard to watch that.

This is just too sad to bear, really. I am so depressed right now. I don't even care about the draft and that's saying something when it comes to me. I don't care about anything. I'm just pissed, depressed, sad, I can't really comprehend this. At least not fully.

I can't really say anything more.

[ludo21]

It used to be "Its Griese's fault"

Now it will be "It's Slowicks Fault!"

[bloodsunday]

Like a baby....

Pat Bowlen is an amazing owner and I respect him immensely for having the fortitude to make this decision and follow his "instincts". It must have torn him apart.

That said, Mike Shanahan is equally amazing and I doubt we'll have another head coach like him. EVERYONE else in the organization will have to step up their games going forward.

Thanks for 14 years Mike!

[MplsBronco]

Baja, you nailed it. As ashamed as I was at 52-21, my pride in this organization has been restored by the class displayed today by both men.

[bloodsunday]

I am still VERY BITTER and VERY UPSET with Bowlen, but its obvious that it was extremely painful for him.

That's the part we have to focus on. Bowlen didn't WANT to do this. He felt like it was in the best interest of the team. We are spoiled as fans to have an owner like him. In fact, Shanahan himself said that multiple times. I have great confidence that Bowlen knows what he's doing.

But make no mistake, this is a historically tough day for Bronco fans.

[baja]

Mike Shanahan, "I didn't get it done" = pure class

He didn't say Pat give me one more year no he said I understand.

It's rare anymore when sports is a metaphor for life this has been very impressive. It's great to be a fan of this collection of people called the Denver Broncos.

[broncosteven]

I definitely did. I just finished watching that whole thing. I'm glad they had it on here. I am still VERY BITTER and VERY UPSET with Bowlen, but its obvious that it was extremely painful for him. I thought Shanahan was a complete class act. I feel really bad that he will not be able to enjoy the fruits of his labor (i.e. the development of Cutler, Marshall, Royal, Scheffler, Hillis etc. his offense). It was obvious that this was something he really wanted to see, and in my view DESERVED to see.

This is really, really heartbreaking for me and it was so hard to watch that.

This is just too sad to bear, really. I am so depressed right now. I don't even care about the draft and that's saying something when it comes to me. I don't care about anything. I'm just pissed, depressed, sad, I can't really comprehend this. At least not fully.

I can't really say anything more.

The Sun will come out, Tomorrow, bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow, there will be sun.

I was that depressed after the Jag loss, took me 2-3 weeks to get over it.

I took me a couple hours last night to get over this. Live in the present, realize this is nothing you can control and hope that Bowlen was talking **** about not having a plan.

[Dexter]

Tears were shed in this house by a few people..

[bloodsunday]

At least we know Mike is not going to KC, he said he will coach for an owner that wants to win.

That rule out Oakland to!

(What a way to get in a dig!)

[Meck77]

It's rare anymore when sports is a metaphor for life this has been very impressive. It's great to be a fan of this collection of people called the Denver Broncos.

Bingo. And that's just it. A collection of people. The organization is bigger than any one QB, coach, or even owner but at the end of the day one guy has to make the tough decision and Pat has been doing it masterfully for decades now. His business instincts will get us back on top.

Now if Pat would only do a symbolic slashing of ticket prices he'd certainly win major props from Broncomaniacs excited to get back to the stadium next year!;D

[Broncoman13]

I admit that was interesting but it's not like Pat is going to say who he's targeting as coach. That would be foolish.

I kinda liken this situation to breaking up with a girlfriend you actually love. You can't exactly explain why you do it, she may be hot, she may have "been a champion" but you know she's not the gal you want to marry. ;D

There is certainly more to this story but Pat and Shanny's friendship runs too deep to air it out to the public. It's better that way.

Kind of what I was thinking too.

I shed a tear or two. I was moved by the mutual respect of both men. I was moved at how much Mike Shanahan likes it here in Denver. I was moved at how much Pat Bowlen takes care of his people. Even if his coaches get fired they will have a pay check for another year. Not every owner would do that. To me, that is why Denver is such a good place to play and coach. I mentioned the little things in a post yesterday and I'm glad Mike touched on those things. He said that Pat allowed him to do those things. I would say it's safe to assume that Pat will allow the future GM (Goodman) and/or HC/VP to do the same thing. This is both a sad day and exciting day. I love the Denver Broncos and watch football b/c it's like drama for men. I love the offseason b/c of the unknown, the draft, the free agent possibilities, etc. It's exciting not knowing who are future coach will be, but also knowing that Pat Bowlen will bring in somebody that can take this team to the next level. I have a newfound respect for Pat Bowlen knowing that he will do whatever it takes to bring a Superbowl to Denver. I would feel completely different if this move was easy for him to make. Thank goodness it was tough for him and Shanny and Pat will eventually return to being good friends for life.

[baja]

Sack up you bunch of pansies It is this kind of bs nostalgia that got this team in this mess. Hey Pat!, (Tumbs Up)

Glad I'm not you...

[bloodsunday]

Mike Shanahan, "I didn't get it done" = pure class

You know what else it tells you about him? He walks the talk. He fires coaches, GMs, and players all the time for not getting it done. He holds himself to that same standard.

I also appreciated how he reference that it was more difficult for Pat than for him.

For the two of them to speak for only 5 minutes and obviously completely understand on another is amazing. They must have some great relationship!

[KCStud]

At least we know Mike is not going to KC, he said he will coach for an owner that wants to win.

KC doesn't want any part of that piece of **** Rat. No thanks to chopblocking. Ratty isn't that good of a coach people. He can't fend for himself without Elway and it showed for about 10 years

[baja]

I don't want to start anything but I thought you were fed up and wanted this change after the SD loss. I could have misinterpreted.

I was hoping for one year also. It would have been clear in 09 that Shanny was done and sucked or could get us deep in playoffs. I guess Bowlen didn't have the patience to see.

No look at my poll on Shanny I'm in there with the vast group that wanted to give him one more year. I felt he had earned that with the rebuild of the O.

[Smiling Assassin27]

Damn Nancies...

[SoDak Bronco]

this thread is why we have the best team in the NFL!!! I didn't but def. was really emoitional watching a class act in Shanny. I am proud as hell to be a Broncos fan. no other organization would do it like this.

[Steve Sewell]

KC doesn't want any part of that piece of **** Rat. No thanks to chopblocking. Ratty isn't that good of a coach people. He can't fend for himself without Elway and it showed for about 10 years

Show me on the little dolly where Shanny touched you...

[theAPAOps5]

KCDud would rejoice at the signing of the best football mind in the NFL. He just loaths that he secretly loves a Bronco. In fact all KC fans loath that they secretly wish they were in our shoes.

[baja]

I definitely did. I just finished watching that whole thing. I'm glad they had it on here. I am still VERY BITTER and VERY UPSET with Bowlen, but its obvious that it was extremely painful for him. I thought Shanahan was a complete class act. I feel really bad that he will not be able to enjoy the fruits of his labor (i.e. the development of Cutler, Marshall, Royal, Scheffler, Hillis etc. his offense). It was obvious that this was something he really wanted to see, and in my view DESERVED to see.

This is really, really heartbreaking for me and it was so hard to watch that.

This is just too sad to bear, really. I am so depressed right now. I don't even care about the draft and that's saying something when it comes to me. I don't care about anything. I'm just pissed, depressed, sad, I can't really comprehend this. At least not fully.

I can't really say anything more.

It is very hard right now bro but Mike Shanahan will go on to great things because he is a great man and we have an owner that is willing to give everything to win. Things are good all around.

I know you will be sizing up those draft picks like a pro scout very soon

Enjoy your vacation life is short and vacations are shorter.

[Jens1893]

Mike can´t go to KC because he can´t win at Arrowhead. :)

[theAPAOps5]

I used to let the Broncos effect me way more than they do now. I was a grouch when they lost, a stress ball on Sundays. Then my little girl was born and things got put into perspective.

SoCal something is going to come along and put things in perspective one day or maybe it won't. But a little advise from someone who has been there, don't let something that is your passion and hobby dictate your whole life. It makes your hobby start to suck.

[Garcia Bronco]

I am cryed out from my mother. Naturally this doesn't even compare, but it's still very depressing.

[wolf754life]

Pat Bowlen is the greatest owner of our time....
ask a lion fan, ask a ROCKIES fan....

When they asked him about cost, when they asked him about the business side of this move, he said:

"its all about winning, if your concerned about cost, get in another line of business"

its cold, its hard, but it is the way its supposed to be!

That is why we LIVE and DIE every sunday, that is why we bleed orange and blue, thats why we LOVE our Broncos. Thats what makes the superbowls so special..........thats what makes winning so great, because its so damn hard!

Mike is a class act, he WILL go forward and WIN somewhere else....
But Bowlen knew it was over here........enough was enough. It was time to let go, time to grow, time to attack the future. When you love someone and you know its time you have to let them go because you LOVE them and Respect them. Its real LEADERSHIP, the hard gut decisions that define the price of success.

Make no mistake, Bowlen knows how great Mike Shanahan is...........

The Greats are all Ghosts now, Elway, McCaffery, Atwater, TD, Zimmerman, Sharpe, Al Wilson, T-Bone, Nalen, Stink, Rod Smith, Romo, Elam, they are all gone, its all over, when Shanny walks out of that building he closes the book on the greatest chapter of Broncos History and it is up to us to cherish and keep their memories alive.

The Broncos will only grow from this. It was so sad today, emotions just like when D.Will was lost, when John, Eddie Mac, Rod, when they all retired and walked away, today closes the book forever on the broncos we all loved.

Tears, of course, too many to count, look back at the names, the tradition, how rich it is, how much it meant, and how each year it continues to mean even more. Most of thought we would never WIN a superbowl, most of us thought Elway would never get his RING. Well he did, thanks to Mike Shanahan, and for that we will always love him, we will honor him, he delivered the impossible to Denver.

Good luck Mike, you were the best, but it was time, time for you to move on, and time for the Broncos to move forward................

[baja]

KC doesn't want any part of that piece of **** Rat. No thanks to chopblocking. Ratty isn't that good of a coach people. He can't fend for himself without Elway and it showed for about 10 years

Because of your classless nature you can not understand these things of real men, you lose much.

[Broncoman13]

I used to let the Broncos effect me way more than they do now. I was a grouch when they lost, a stress ball on Sundays. Then my little girl was born and things got put into perspective.

SoCal something is going to come along and put things in perspective one day or maybe it won't. But a little advise from someone who has been there, don't let something that is your passion and hobby dictate your whole life. It makes your hobby start to suck.

Same thing for me. My wife told my oldest daughter last night (as I ignored her questions) that I would be on the computer for the next several weeks talking about the Broncos firing Mike Shanahan. Put things into perspective for me and I went and watched AFV with them for an hour... One day SoCal will have someone that occupies his time and he'll learn to enjoy the time he spends on his hobby rather than allowing it to totally consume him. SoCal my friend, I hope you come out next year for camp so we can watch whoever our new coach is, whip whoever our new players are into shape. Know that I'll be there and you have a place to stay if need be!

[theAPAOps5]

Yeah after talking to you, Montrose, and my other friends I turned the phone off and took a break too.

[Broncoman13]

Pat Bowlen is the greatest owner of our time....
ask a lion fan, ask a ROCKIES fan....

When they asked him about cost, when they asked him about the business side of this move, he said:

"its all about winning, if your concerned about cost, get in another line of business"

its cold, its hard, but it is the way its supposed to be!

That is why we LIVE and DIE every sunday, that is why we bleed orange and blue, thats why we LOVE our Broncos. Thats what makes the superbowls so special..........thats what makes winning so great, because its so damn hard!

Mike is a class act, he WILL go forward and WIN somewhere else....
But Bowlen knew it was over here........enough was enough. It was time to let go, time to grow, time to attack the future. When you love someone and you know its time you have to let them go because you LOVE them and Respect them. Its real LEADERSHIP, the hard gut decisions that define the price of success.

Make no mistake, Bowlen knows how great Mike Shanahan is...........

The Greats are all Ghosts now, Elway, McCaffery, Atwater, TD, Zimmerman, Sharpe, Al Wilson, T-Bone, Nalen, Stink, Rod Smith, Romo, Elam, they are all gone, its all over, when Shanny walks out of that building he closes the book on the greatest chapter of Broncos History and it is up to us to cherish and keep their memories alive.

The Broncos will only grow from this. It was so sad today, emotions just like when D.Will was lost, when John, Eddie Mac, Rod, when they all retired and walked away, today closes the book forever on the broncos we all loved.

Tears, of course, too many to count, look back at the names, the tradition, how rich it is, how much it meant, and how each year it continues to mean even more. Most of thought we would never WIN a superbowl, most of us thought Elway would never get his RING. Well he did, thanks to Mike Shanahan, and for that we will always love him, we will honor him, he delivered the impossible to Denver.

Good luck Mike, you were the best, but it was time, time for you to move on, and time for the Broncos to move forward................


Good post Wolf... hope to see some more good posts from you in the future now.

[kcfanxiii]

i'd love to have him in kc. not for one second would i pass up the chance for that offensive mind to be calling plays for my offense. i feel for you guys, really. kinda like when schottenheimer left the chiefs. only your guy won you a couple super bowls.

[Broncoman13]

Yeah after talking to you, Montrose, and my other friends I turned the phone off and took a break too.

Same here. Man I was in shock for a little while. Had been talking about it all day. I can't tell you how much I wish we could have retained Shanny in a HC role while bringing in a good DC. Don't know if that was an option or not and at this point it's moot. I look forward to our new coach knowing the Pat Bowlen's bottom line is get to the Superbowl, I'll fund it, you coach it.

[broncosteven]

Good post Wolf... hope to see some more good posts from you in the future now.

Now that this team has shed it's 2 lightning rods, Shanny and Plummer, it is a new dawn here at the Mane.

think about it. People have to find someone else to blame.

[theAPAOps5]

Now that this team has shed it's 2 lightning rods, Shanny and Plummer, it is a new dawn here at the Mane.

think about it. People have to find someone else to blame.

It won't take long. I predict, Cutler.

[24champ]

I don't even care about the draft

whoooaaaaaaahhh

Words that you never thought would be typed by socal....

[baja]

Originally Posted by broncosteven
Now that this team has shed it's 2 lightning rods, Shanny and Plummer, it is a new dawn here at the Mane.

think about it. People have to find someone else to blame.

It won't take long. I predict, Cutler.


no it will be pat bowlen for firing god

[SouthStndJunkie]

I admit that was interesting but it's not like Pat is going to say who he's targeting as coach. That would be foolish.

I kinda liken this situation to breaking up with a girlfriend you actually love. You can't exactly explain why you do it, she may be hot, she may have "been a champion" but you know she's not the gal you want to marry. ;D

There is certainly more to this story but Pat and Shanny's friendship runs too deep to air it out to the public. It's better that way.

Solid take.

[brncobrett]

+1 hard not to... I've lived and died orange and blue my whole life...Mike was and is a great coach and a good man!!!

[Popps]

I'm at work and couldn't watch it live. I may watch it later, but I'm not sure I want to get that choked up. Change isn't easy... even when it's necessary.

[~Crash~]

Good post Wolf... hope to see some more good posts from you in the future now.

I don't don't quote the ****er !

[baja]

I'm at work and couldn't watch it live. I may watch it later, but I'm not sure I want to get that choked up. Change isn't easy... even when it's necessary.

You should watch is bro it's great stuff, it'll make you proud to be a Broncos fan

[baja]

I don't don't quote the ****er !

Feeling any better today?

[~Crash~]

Taco is there a way you can make Quotes from people on ignore disaper

If not can you buy a better version of V bulletin that would if so that you would like to up grade I would like you to let me know in a PM and let me know the cost .

I sick harping ****ers

[~Crash~]

Feeling any better today?

yes and no .

[theAPAOps5]

No version of V Bulletin is capabable of that I think. It would have to sort through everyones account to see who has who ignored then filter based on that. Way to tedious.

Pretty simple solution when you see who was quoted either move on or read it.

[Orange_Beard]

When I heard the news yesterday it brought a tear to my eyes.
I kept checking cnn hoping that it was just a rumor.

We have been through a lot with Shanny. In a way I feel like a family member is gone.

[baja]

neg rep the quoter every time that might work or don't be so sensitive ha ha

[baja]

I think Shanny had become too much of a tyrant around Dove Valley you know the old "Too much power corrupts" adage.

[MagicHef]

I'm not crying. It's just been raining...



on my face.

I'm not crying. I've just been cutting an onion. I'm making a lasagna...



for one.

[Florida_Bronco]

KCDud would rejoice at the signing of the best football mind in the NFL. He just loaths that he secretly loves a Bronco. In fact all KC fans loath that they secretly wish they were in our shoes.

The fact that he doesn't know the difference between a chop block (illegal) and a cut block (legal) is pretty telling. Then it gets funnier when he rails on about "chop blocking" (I can only assume he means cut blocking) when his Chiefs do it too...just like every team in the league.

[oubronco]

everyone should cry the little man upstairs has no upstairs anymore




at least not Broncos Headquarters

[Jens1893]

The fact that he doesn't know the difference between a chop block (illegal) and a cut block (legal) is pretty telling. Then it gets funnier when he rails on about "chop blocking" (I can only assume he means cut blocking) when his Chiefs do it too...just like every team in the league.

I admire your tenacity in fighting guys like KCDud.

[Florida_Bronco]

I admire your tenacity in fighting guys like KCDud.

Thanks, although I don't think it's all that productive. I'd much rather TJ crack down on them or quarantine them to a "smack talk" forum, but it doesn't appear as thought it was happen anytime soon, so the only other alternative is to call them out for their stupidity and make fools of them.

[rbackfactory80]

The Darrent death last year, now this, hopefully a better next. Oh my bad, that was two years ago.

[Los Broncos]

Watching and hearing Bowlen talk was tough, had to happen at some point.

He will be missed but being a Bronco fan never ends.

[ORANGEJARHEAD]

Still In Shock. Don't know how to feel yet.

[stevieray]

I can understand crying about winning/losing the SB, but over losing a coach?

wow.

[theAPAOps5]

I can understand crying about winning/losing the SB, but over losing a coach?

wow.

Yeah you clearly aren't a Broncos fan and are just trolling or you have a much different perspective than most on here. Saying goodbye to Shanahan is much harder than those Superbowl losses. Its the end of a 14 year era not the end of a season.

[stevieray]

Yeah you clearly aren't a Broncos fan and are just trolling or you have a much different perspective than most on here. Saying goodbye to Shanahan is much harder than those Superbowl losses. Its the end of a 14 year era not the end of a season.


It just seems silly. it's not llike you really know the guy...he'll land on his feet and the Broncos will change...time marches on.

[Cito Pelon]

The drama and the emotion displayed by Bowlen and Shanahan got to me. It was good to see they respect each other so much.

I thought Bowlen handled it well. He hasn't spoken that long in public for 15 years.

It was clear yesterday this would be an amicable deal. Scheduling a joint press-conference pointed toward that.

Bowlen I think was right. He said 'it's a tough decision, but the best decision for the Broncos and for Mike.'

[Cito Pelon]

I don't want to start anything but I thought you were fed up and wanted this change after the SD loss. I could have misinterpreted.

I was hoping for one year also. It would have been clear in 09 that Shanny was done and sucked or could get us deep in playoffs. I guess Bowlen didn't have the patience to see.

Even I thought Shanny deserved one more year since he was under contract already.

Bowlen said he sensed the mood around town was not one of excitement. It's true. Here in the heart of Broncoland there's been a LOT of grumbling about the stagnant nature of Bronco football. It's been the same thing many have been saying on the Mane - something had to be shook up, be it 'football operations', HC, or both.

[Cito Pelon]

Happy New Year, my fellow Bronco fans.


Weird, eh?

Well, Bowlen apparently had been contemplating shaking things up for 'some time', I don't think he actually said how long that 'time' had been.

It's weird I guess that Bowlen didn't do it half-assed by discussing it with Shanny and laying out some options. Bowlen just called him in and said pretty much, that's it, it's over. But I don't know what those guys relationship is like. Apparently, that was the best way to do it, because Shanny respected the decisiveness of the decision.

[rastaman]

Sack up you bunch of pansies It is this kind of bs nostalgia that got this team in this mess. Hey Pat!, (Tumbs Up)

Okay Sgt "Rock".....have you not ever heard of a period of mourning!!!!;D

[Cito Pelon]

Glad I'm not you...

Mpls has a good point Baja.

[MileHighMagic]

I have so much respect for Mike Shanahan. He has been the coach of the team I love since I was 15 years old. I absolutely got choked up. Really tough to see him get emotional because I have never seen that before. Plus the finality of the whole situation. It is probably for the best but it doesn't make it any easier.

[baja]

Yeah you clearly aren't a Broncos fan and are just trolling or you have a much different perspective than most on here. Saying goodbye to Shanahan is much harder than those Superbowl losses. Its the end of a 14 year era not the end of a season.

Not to mention two grown men struggling to keep their emotions in check while doing something painful in the extreme in order to to what is best for an organization they both love. It's real life heroics, an example of total commitment you are watching and for those of you that do not see that well know you are living a shallow life.

[Meck77]

Not to mention two grown men struggling to keep their emotions in check while doing something painful in the extreme in order to to what is best for an organization they both love. It's real life heroics, an example of total commitment you are watching and for those of you that do not see that well know you are living a shallow life.

I tried explaining that to some of my family members in SD today. It didn't go over well. They laughed their ****ing asses off actually. There was a big rally in National City the other day. Charger flags everywhere. Charger fans partying in their yards. *sigh*

[baja]

Mpls has a good point Baja.

I was refering to this guy Cito,

Originally Posted by EmpireOrange
Sack up you bunch of pansies It is this kind of bs nostalgia that got this team in this mess. Hey Pat!, (Tumbs Up)

[baja]

I have so much respect for Mike Shanahan. He has been the coach of the team I love since I was 15 years old. I absolutely got choked up. Really tough to see him get emotional because I have never seen that before. Plus the finality of the whole situation. It is probably for the best but it doesn't make it any easier.

QFT

[Cito Pelon]

I was refering to this guy Cito,

Originally Posted by EmpireOrange
Sack up you bunch of pansies It is this kind of bs nostalgia that got this team in this mess. Hey Pat!, (Tumbs Up)

Thats who I meant, I said Mpls by mistake. I'll try again:

Empire has a point, Baja. The feel good stuff over the Lombardi's lasted too long, I'm not gonna wallow in misery over Shanny too long. Shanny wouldn't want it that way. ;D

[baja]

So is two day too long to feel sentimental about our HOF coach getting fired?

Did you watch the press conference? That's what this thread is about.

[Cito Pelon]

So is two day too long to feel sentimental about our HOF coach getting fired?

Did you watch the press conference? That's what this thread is about.

Ok, one day.

Yeah I listened to it, I just posted about it above. I said it got to me. I went out to the car and took a drive to listen to it. I knew it was gonna be emotional. Seeing yesterday it was a joint presser at Dove Valley I knew it was gonna be amicable and emotional, it wasn't gonna be some terse statement and leave the podium. But these are the Denver Broncos, it's not the Denver Bowlens, it's not the Denver Shanahans. Both of them said so.

One day. No more. You get yourself together mister.

[baja]

lol

[Banana Pants]

Wish Pat had followed my desire to give Mike one more year but I respect the hell out of him for having the courage it obviously took to do what he felt was in the best interest of the Broncos.

At least we know Mike is not going to KC, he said he will coach for an owner that wants to win.

Clark Hunt's father was the founding father of the AFL. You don't think Clark wants to honor his father's legacy? How hated will he be if he ends up there............

[baja]

Clark Hunt's father was the founding father of the AFL. You don't think Clark wants to honor his father's legacy? How hated will he be if he ends up there............

How hated will who be if he ends up where???

[Banana Pants]

How hated will who be if he ends up where???

Sorry. Shannahan would be a hated man if he ends up in KC.

[baja]

Hated by whom

[Banana Pants]

Hated by whom

Everybody in Denver, and Oakland. Probably a few folks in San Diego as well. Hell, there are Chiefs fans who would be angry. They're idiots though, they'd be lucky to have him.

[TheDave]

I definitely did. I just finished watching that whole thing. I'm glad they had it on here. I am still VERY BITTER and VERY UPSET with Bowlen, but its obvious that it was extremely painful for him. I thought Shanahan was a complete class act. I feel really bad that he will not be able to enjoy the fruits of his labor (i.e. the development of Cutler, Marshall, Royal, Scheffler, Hillis etc. his offense). It was obvious that this was something he really wanted to see, and in my view DESERVED to see.

This is really, really heartbreaking for me and it was so hard to watch that.

This is just too sad to bear, really. I am so depressed right now. I don't even care about the draft and that's saying something when it comes to me. I don't care about anything. I'm just pissed, depressed, sad, I can't really comprehend this. At least not fully.

I can't really say anything more.

Oddly i feel much better after watching this. I'm still sad this happened and agree it would of been wonderful to watch shanahan develop this Offense to it's end... BUT... after watching this it became appearent to me that Shanahan has a complete blind spot when it comes to the defense. Him saying that they were a couple of FA's and a draft away from getting the talent needed told me that he was not seeing the reality of this situation. I have no doubt this offense would of always been top 5 in the league. Problem is this defense would of always been beneath what they needed to make it to the promised land.

I wish him the best and and will always remmber his years coaching as a wonderful time in Broncos history... but I now agree this had to happen.

[baja]

That's a big donut for Dave's 10,000 post... ;D

[dEADmANwALKING]

Tears from laughter,we just elected a Messiah,and you guys seemed to have just fired one,but i'm sure you'll get over it when your new Coach drops his pants at his first press conference and you guys start blowing...lol

[theAPAOps5]

Who is this Fag? Never seen this cum stain post before.

[TheDave]

That's a big donut for Dave's 10,000 post... ;D

Just more proof that I have absolutely no life... ;D

[baja]

It only took you 4 years and 8 months to get there

[baja]

that's 5.83 posts a day

[baja]

That's 1 post every 4 hours.

This is medicine for you.

[ZONA]

cmon guys - a thread about who cried? That makes me want to cry.

[baja]

It was worse than when Bambi died

[watermock]

We can only hope that when Shanny raids our coaching staff, he takes Slowick with him.

[Atwater His Ass]

I just watched the pressers today, and yeah, it was tough. I do not support this decision, but on the flip side you can see how hard this was for Bowlen.

I don't envy his position and responsibility to make those decisions.

[crawdad]

Once again I say, Who in the hell is a better option at this point? Pat will be sorry he made this move. I am pissed!

[ShutDownPoster]

Dear Fellow Maners,

I don't post a ton - but been here for a while now. I did not cry, but I feel choked up thinking about all the memories, and how it applies to my own life. A couple of things stand out:

When Mike came aboard I just started grad school and my mom was suffering from bone cancer so was too stressed to catch any of the games, but I'd always look at the stats in the papers. I remember reading USA today and looking at a certain stat and say to myself ' who is this T. Davis guy with 1100 yards rushing?

'96 was awesome, as I had more time to watch the games and see TD for myself as we ran all over people, but like all of us flipped out when we lost to the Jags.

'97 - I had just finished grad school, on my way to my current career. I had just made my first trip to asia (now living here in Shanghai). I remember walking into an airport lounge and seeing the Jags game live - I was going ballistic watching us run it down their throats (Derrick Loville for christs' sake!). I fondly remember a kid tell his father - obviously a non-bronco fan ( about T.D.) ' wow, he's good'. By the time I got back to the states, the SB was on, and I remember jumping up and screaming like a madman when we won. I never did this before for any sports event - not even when the '86 Mets won the world series. I remember buying that SI issue where they covered the SB and how they explained Mike's game plan and how they knew they were going to win. Brilliant I thought! And went on to impose these principals of hard work and preparation into my own life and career....

More to post later - still recovering from my new year hangover :-)

[KCStud]

KCDud would rejoice at the signing of the best football mind in the NFL. He just loaths that he secretly loves a Bronco. In fact all KC fans loath that they secretly wish they were in our shoes.

Loath the Broncos? :rofl:

Why would anybody want to be in your shoe's? I'm sure everybody loath's the Brokeback "I have a 3 game lead and lost it in 3 weeks for the division" Mt. Donkos

[theAPAOps5]

Says the supposed KC fan with over 1200 posts here. Even at our worst we are better than your tired old team.

[Bronco Yoda]

No way was a boob'n.... I had dust in my eye, my contacts were dry, I had allergies! ...and that's the story I'm stick'n to...

[Cito Pelon]

Hated by whom

Me. Shanny already defected from the Broncos in 1988 to the Raiders. I stilll hold a grudge against him for that. Following that up by going to the Chiefs would not go down well with me.

[Old No. 7]

Wish Pat had followed my desire to give Mike one more year but I respect the hell out of him for having the courage it obviously took to do what he felt was in the best interest of the Broncos.

At least we know Mike is not going to KC, he said he will coach for an owner that wants to win.

They wouldn't want him.

[Eldorado]

Still puking....hang on....will cry later...

[Old No. 7]

Loath the Broncos? :rofl:

Why would anybody want to be in your shoe's? I'm sure everybody loath's the Brokeback "I have a 3 game lead and lost it in 3 weeks for the division" Mt. Donkos


But Taco John says it's the most "prestigious" position in the NFL!