Is Denver the most attractive job available?

[no-pseudo-fan]

I know that there are a million threads, but here is my spin.

With the job's that are out there now, is Denver going to get the pick of the litter? Why? Why Not?

I think Denver has a lot of pieces in place to be very good, very soon unlike the Lions for example.

The new Coach wouldn't have to deal with the media circus, a la NY.

The new Coach doesn't need to reverse a losing tradition, Cleveland/Oak/Det.

The new Coach will not have a owner that will stick his nose in everything.

In my mind there isn't a better position out there.

Go Broncos

[elsid13]

Yes it really is.

Young Franchise QB - Check
Young Franchise LT - Check
Young Dynamic WRs/TE - Check
Young talented Oline Check
Ten draft choices - Check
Cap Room to get FA

[spdirty]

biggest one: the coach has the best young offense in the league.

And the coach gets to look at mountains.

Dont know how we arent the cream of the crop, especially considering when the ne guy in New York will have to put up with.

[CSU Husker]

I think the Jets job is pretty close too, but at least here you wont have Favre holding you hostage.

[bronco militia]

franchise QB...check

franchise LT...check

owner that will spend money....check

colorado....check

[Hotrod]

I agree only problem is the need of 6-8 new Dlinemen, 2-4 new LBers, 2-3 new Safetys, 1-2 new CB's and a partridge in a pair tree.

[elsid13]

I think the Jets job is pretty close too, but at least here you wont have Favre holding you hostage.

Not me, the Jets are very old team and don't have a lot of talent floating around on both side of the ball.

[Smiling Assassin27]

Denver is definitely the best job out there now. In NYC, you have to deal with the Favre circus, the most cut throat media in the world, and well, New Yorkers. In Oakland, you get...well, no need to kick a dog when he's down. Cleveland, though attractive, breeds a culture of losing in its ownership, its fan base, and its players. Plus it's sh!t-all cold in December and January. Detroit: see Oakland.

Denver wins by default, but really is a plum job. An owner who will make winning his first and only mission. A fan base that is unique and rabid. A city that is beautiful and an short flight from anywhere in the country. A franchise QB, WR's, and O-Line in place already. A franchise that NFL players WANT to come to. A top 15 draft spot + 8 picks. A team in a division that is ripe for the taking--9 wins may win it.

[lex]

The only bad thing is that Shanahan left big footprints. Id say though that there are enough Shanahan detractors by now that he kind of has a clean slate.

[Steve Sewell]

Yes, Denver is hands down the best job in the league because of Jay Cutler and an ownership willing to do whatever it takes to win championships. As a coach that has to be incredibly attractive.

[elsid13]

The only bad thing is that Shanahan left big footprints. Id say though that there are enough Shanahan detractors by now that he kind of has a clean slate.

I don't that. As much crap as people give Shanahan now, year from now he won't have done anything wrong on the field. See Elway. See Rod Smith See Sharpe

[montrose]

No question. The Broncos are one of the league's top franchises with a new stadium, stable owner and a good core of talent headed by a franchise-caliber QB, LT and WR.

I can't think of one negative any aspiring coach or GM could have about the Broncos organization so - as long as Bowlen is willing to pay the money - they should be able to get any GM or Coach they want.

[rastaman]

I agree only problem is the need of 6-8 new Dlinemen, 2-4 new LBers, 2-3 new Safetys, 1-2 new CB's and a partridge in a pair tree.

Those aren't unrealistic moves/fills to be made. What's important is bringing in a GM who can evaluate the personnel in the Draft and FA over the next two or three years. It can happen...but then again it fail just as well.

[Rohirrim]

Whoever takes the Jets job better have thick skin. You're joining the AFCE. The Pats own it and they will be very pissed next year that their 11-5 record didn't get them in the playoffs (with Brady back, probably). Miami is now kicking ass. You have to come out swinging and the press and fans aren't going to give you a honeymoon that lasts beyond preseason (probably not even that).

In Denver, you have an eight state fan base and you're the only game in town. The fan base is like no other in America. You're in the AFCW. Put a middling defense together and you could take the division in your first year. You have one of the best owners in the game and the best facilities, not to mention a pretty nice stadium. It's the plum job in the NFL right now.

[theAPAOps5]

Seriously Denver is the jewel of the bunch right now. Thats why I don't TJ's and SoCal's concerns of this becoming a revolving door coaching team.

Teams like Detroit, San Fran, KC, and others are revolving door teams. Teams like the Patriots, Ravens, Pittsburgh lost coaches only to bring in great coaches. I think Denver does the same thing.

[Broncoman13]

franchise QB...check

franchise LT...check

owner that will spend money....check

colorado....check

BINGO!!!

Being able to focus on fixing one main aspect of a game has to be appealing. Knowing that almost all of the pieces are in place on offense... appealing as well.

I'm willing to bet that whomever comes in gets some good players in FA for the defense, then drafts Mlb, Center, and safety.

-Rey Rey
-Mack
-Chung

Welcome to Denver!!!

[elsid13]

Seriously Denver is the jewel of the bunch right now. Thats why I don't TJ's and SoCal's concerns of this becoming a revolving door coaching team.
Teams like Detroit, San Fran, KC, and others are revolving door teams. Teams like the Patriots, Ravens, Pittsburgh lost coaches only to bring in great coaches. I think Denver does the same thing.

The reason that this team is such attractive job opperunity is due to a lot of the work Shanahan has done over the last three years. Getting a young franchise QB and LT let anyone coming in here look real good in thier first couple of years.

[theAPAOps5]

The reason that this team is such attractive job opperunity is due to a lot of the work Shanahan has done over the last three years. Getting a young franchise QB and LT let anyone coming in here look real good in thier first couple of years.

Can't deny that Shanny brought in great offensive talent. Thats not where he failed.

[Broncobuddy7]

The only bad thing is that Shanahan left big footprints. Id say though that there are enough Shanahan detractors by now that he kind of has a clean slate.

Good point. I'm really sick and tired of the national media still talking about Elways shadow. I hope there isn't another 10 years of hearing about Shanahans footprints and how "no Denver coach since Shanahan...blah, blah, blah."

[sirhcyennek81]

Young offense with a potentially great offensive line, and even banged up, talent at running back. Franchise QB, Game breaking WR's and TEs. Its easier to give this team a potentially solid defense then rebuilding everything from scratch.

:Broncos:

[phillybroncosnut]

Be careful. People are failing to see one major negative in taking the Denver job.... PREASURE!!!

I think veteran coaches would be foaming at the mouth to get this Denver job. Marty, Cowher, etc. They've been through the ups and downs and they know what it takes to win in the NFL.

A brand new coach might not want the preasure to win NOW surrounded by their first NFL head coaching job. They might sooner want to take the 0-16 Lions job and get their feet wet there rather then having the expectations of making it deep in the playoffs in their first season. No one expects the Lions to even be competitive next season so winning just 4 games would be a pretty good campaign.

[When Lightning Strikes]

I think its the most attractive coaching position by far. Who wouldnt want to coach a team with talented players and a team with such great history. If anything, this could be a negative thing because too many will want to come and apply. Including Marty Shotherhymen, Yikes.

Seriously though, Denver would be the best position for a new coaching job. There is a path to the AFC west set up and a path to the SB if it is done right.

[no-pseudo-fan]

I am almost positive that we are bringing in a Defensive Coach, and leaving all the offensive guys in place.

If I were a coach I do not want to go to a place with little to no talent, no fan support, and a losing tradition.

[When Lightning Strikes]

Mangenius to Jets and Crennel to Detroit.

Rod Marinelli (SP?) to Denver!!

[HEAV]

Yes Denver is the number one job available right now.

Granted the defense is crap, but has TJ loves to say, the offense is set...minus a running back and possible new center.

The cap number is solid, draft picks are set and many of the turds on defense are freeagents!

This situation is set for instant success for the right guy with solid defensive skills!

[enjolras]

I think Jerry Jones is shopping for a coach, I really do. We may be second in line behind the Cowboys.

[ZONA]

New coach can make quick impact in $hitty AFC West Division - check

[crowebomber]

I think Jerry Jones is shopping for a coach, I really do. We may be second in line behind the Cowboys.

Well you do have to throw in the TO factor there. Any coach is going to have to consider having to deal with that. That being said, the Cowboys probably has to be the best coaching job in the NFL.

[rastaman]

Good point. I'm really sick and tired of the national media still talking about Elways shadow. I hope there isn't another 10 years of hearing about Shanahans footprints and how "no Denver coach since Shanahan...blah, blah, blah."

Until the new Bronco coach wins a SB or two! The Shanahan footprint/shadow will hang over the heads of any new coach Bowlen brings in.

And should Shanahan become successful as coach elsewhere and returns those teams to dominance while Denver continuous to struggle, the comparisons will always be there.

Should Shanahan go to lets say the KC's and wins and even goes the SB and wins then it only magnifies the situation. Imagine an AFC west Title game btwn the Broncos and KC.....and Shanahan KC wins and also wins the SB. Now Bowlen and his newly hired coach are in the shadow of Mike Shanahan.

NEVER-SAY-NEVER!!!

[rastaman]

Well you do have to throw in the TO factor there. Any coach is going to have to consider having to deal with that. That being said, the Cowboys probably has to be the best coaching job in the NFL.

True....but Jerry Jones is a "Bitch" to work for thats for sure.

[Rock Chalk]

Until the new Bronco coach wins a SB or two! The Shanahan footprint/shadow will hang over the heads of any new coach Bowlen brings in.

And should Shanahan become successful as coach elsewhere and returns those teams to dominance while Denver continuous to struggle, the comparisons will always be there.

Should Shanahan go to lets say the KC's and wins and even goes the SB and wins then it only magnifies the situation. Imagine an AFC west Title game btwn the Broncos and KC.....and Shanahan KC wins and also wins the SB. Now Bowlen and his newly hired coach are in the shadow of Mike Shanahan.

NEVER-SAY-NEVER!!!

What if the opposite happens?

WTF is with your negativity?

[HEAV]

Until the new Bronco coach wins a SB or two! The Shanahan footprint/shadow will hang over the heads of any new coach Bowlen brings in.

And should Shanahan become successful as coach elsewhere and returns those teams to dominance while Denver continuous to struggle, the comparisons will always be there.

Should Shanahan go to lets say the KC's and wins and even goes the SB and wins then it only magnifies the situation. Imagine an AFC west Title game btwn the Broncos and KC.....and Shanahan KC wins and also wins the SB. Now Bowlen and his newly hired coach are in the shadow of Mike Shanahan.

NEVER-SAY-NEVER!!!


Dude it's over. Let it go.

Go find another team if all you care about the past and the ex-coach.

I'm a BRONCOS fan, the BRONCOS are a TEAM, Shanny was just a man.

[crowebomber]

True....but Jerry Jones is a "b****" to work for thats for sure.

He does like to have his hands in things, but he's never been afraid to open up the checkbook, and coaches like that.

[dbfan4life]

The biggest challege any new coach will have is unifying the locker room. This was probably an unpopular move with the players (mostly the offensive players I would imagine), and whoever the new guy is has a tough task ahead of him. Ideally, I would hope that everyone act as a professional but we all know that's not always what happens.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

no kc is

[Steve Sewell]

no kc is

I just laughed out loud in real life.

[ohiobronco2]

no kc is

LOL ROFL! Ha! :spit:

[Bob's your Information Minister]

ve haff more cap rooom

and uh

no jackass qb!!!

[no-pseudo-fan]

ve haff more cap rooom

and uh

no qb!!!

No QB is right.

[Jens1893]

ve haff more cap rooom

and uh

no jackass qb!!!

The Broncos have $30m in cap room.

[sirhcyennek81]

ve haff more cap rooom

and uh

no qb!!!

Cant argue with this...heh heh


:Broncos:

[Steve Sewell]

ve haff more cap rooom

and uh

no jackass qb!!!

I'm sure you think Thigpen is going to be something special LOL

[driver]

All the arguements that Bowlen was wrong for firing Shanahan seem to be: But what if he goes here and beats us? Bull, that isn't a good enough reason to retain anyone, the only valid reason is performance! Shanahan had everything he wanted for 14 years, a good run. and was sucessful for a long time. His philosiphy seems to have become "So let them score 40 we'll pass 60 times run 20 time and win by scoring 50 points. We don't need a defense!

[Tom A Hawk]

without a doubt Denver is the most attractive for coach.

We will do what we can to send Herm your way.;D

Seriously, Denver will probably have their pick over the rest of the teams with vacancies.

[Don Flamenco]

The biggest challege any new coach will have is unifying the locker room. This was probably an unpopular move with the players (mostly the offensive players I would imagine), and whoever the new guy is has a tough task ahead of him. Ideally, I would hope that everyone act as a professional but we all know that's not always what happens.

Especially when you got so many young guys on the team and their captain on the offensive side of the ball is Mr. Professional Jay Cutler.

I really want this offense to keep maturing into what it could be and leave the staff intact, but for a new headcoach to keep them intact is just asking for trouble with the locker room.

[Bronco X]

Denver's the most attractive of the current open coaching gigs, but if Dallas or San Diego opens up either could make a case (SD because as of now, they've got more balanced talent on both sides of the ball). Of course, Shanahan probably has his pickin' of the top spots outside of Denver if he wants it, so that in affect eliminates one destination for the rest of the pool of candidates.

[Rock Chalk]

Denver's the most attractive of the current open coaching gigs, but if Dallas or San Diego opens up either could make a case (SD because as of now, they've got more balanced talent on both sides of the ball). Of course, Shanahan probably has his pickin' of the top spots outside of Denver if he wants it, so that in affect eliminates one destination for the rest of the pool of candidates.

SD also is a nice location, fans that aren't fanatics and dont care one way or the other and decent ownership. As far as jobs go, SD wouldnt be a bad place.

As much as most outside of football hate Jerry Jones, common belief among this in NFL circles is that the guy is a great man to play and work for, but Dallas the city sucks balls.

[Jens1893]

SD also is a nice location, fans that aren't fanatics and dont care one way or the other and decent ownership. As far as jobs go, SD wouldnt be a bad place.

As much as most outside of football hate Jerry Jones, common belief among this in NFL circles is that the guy is a great man to play and work for, but Dallas the city sucks balls.

I do have the same impression after reading "Boys Will Be Boys". Jones just DESPERATELY wants the best for his players and the Cowboys.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I'm sure you think Thigpen is going to be something special LOL

I loathe the slimy little midget.

Bring me Stafford.

[tnedator]

Seriously Denver is the jewel of the bunch right now. Thats why I don't TJ's and SoCal's concerns of this becoming a revolving door coaching team.

Teams like Detroit, San Fran, KC, and others are revolving door teams. Teams like the Patriots, Ravens, Pittsburgh lost coaches only to bring in great coaches. I think Denver does the same thing.

Don't forget SF was the best of the best at one point.

I share the concern about this becoming a revolving door situation, where we could see 3-4 coaches in the next 10 years.

It has nothing to do with how good the franchise is, it has to do with how rarely a head coach takes over a coaching job and is successful vs. how often a coach comes in, the team struggles and in a few years the coach is replaced.

Personally, I think there are enough pieces in place on offense, and even some on defense, that if Bowlen gets a solid coach, the team could be a winner for years, but when looking at NFL history, the odds are against that happening.

[Headless Hessian Rider]

Should Shanahan go to lets say the KC's and wins and even goes the SB and wins then it only magnifies the situation. Imagine an AFC west Title game btwn the Broncos and KC.....and Shanahan KC wins and also wins the SB. Now Bowlen and his newly hired coach are in the shadow of Mike Shanahan.

NEVER-SAY-NEVER!!!

Won't happen as Mike wants to win and choose the team which offers him the best chance to win the superbowl again as he said at the press conference yesterday. Therefore KC is out of race !! Watch him winding up in Dallas or any other Playoffteam which fires his coach in the next few weeks.:wiggle:

[Cito Pelon]

Denver is absolutely the best job opportunity right now in the NFL. The question is how long Bowlen listens and interviews before deciding. I heard speculation from Pete Caroll to Ron Rivera yesterday. I don't even know if there will be a 'GM' interview before hiring a HC.

[Rohirrim]

ve haff more cap rooom

and uh

no jackass qb!!!

You'll have to go back down along the river and flush all those mulletheads out of their trailers. In case you didn't notice, nobody is showing up.