View Full Version : Did Jay Cutler have a say in this firing?
BroncoBuff
12-30-2008, 03:50 PM
Bowlen says he wants a "young, offensive" head coach to help "develop Jay Cutler."
Did Jay Cutler have a say in this firing?
elsid13
12-30-2008, 03:51 PM
He is on vaction. None of the players knew. It was the BOLT out of the Blue.
SportinOne
12-30-2008, 03:52 PM
Let's not get crazy... If there was ONE THING Mike Shanahan COULD do it was developing great QB's. If anything, I think Cutler is pretty pissed off right now. It will be interesting to see what he has to say about this, that's for sure.
bombquixote
12-30-2008, 03:53 PM
Bowlen says he wants a "young, offensive" head coach to help "develop Jay Cutler."
Source?
SportinOne
12-30-2008, 03:54 PM
Wait a second, did he REALLY say that? Are you kidding me Pat? This team needs improvements but i'm fairly certain that offense was NOT the problem... oh man..
BlaK-Argentina
12-30-2008, 03:54 PM
This is all so crazy. I don't know how I feel about this. If all our offensive talent goes to waste because of this move I might get seriously depressed. I mean SERIOUSLY depressed.
Hotrod
12-30-2008, 03:56 PM
I have no doubt Pat went to Jay and asked him to make the call. :nono:
dbfan4life
12-30-2008, 03:57 PM
LMAO at this thread. Hey, maybe Bowlen consults Jay on Mike's replacement, too!:poke:
BroncoBuff
12-30-2008, 03:58 PM
Source?
Read it in another thread ... it was a quote.
elsid13
12-30-2008, 03:59 PM
Source?
NFL network,
elsid13
12-30-2008, 04:01 PM
Wait a second, did he REALLY say that? Are you kidding me Pat? This team needs improvements but i'm fairly certain that offense was NOT the problem... oh man..
Were are the stars of his team?
BroncoBuff
12-30-2008, 04:02 PM
The way we've been drafting, I would scream if we lose Jim Goodman.... :(
SportinOne
12-30-2008, 04:08 PM
Were are the stars of his team?
I am honestly not understanding what you are asking me here.
TheReverend
12-30-2008, 04:09 PM
Checking the voting results...
:spit:
Hotrod you **** stick
Broncoman13
12-30-2008, 04:12 PM
He is on vaction. None of the players knew. It was the BOLT out of the Blue.
BULLSHIAT! I'd be willing to bet that certain players had a lot to do with this. Especially when you have players that no longer play for a coach. I know some of you didn't notice this (Taco, I'm talking to you!) but Mike Shanahan lost this team when he benched Plummer for Cutler. I personally thought it was a good move, but Shanny never recovered with several of the players.
Dexter
12-30-2008, 04:14 PM
No. CBS 4 on TV just played an interview of Cutler. He was surprised, and pretty ticked. He said "I feel its the wrong move" or something of that sort.
Just what we need, a defense that already blows, and now our franchise QB potentially getting stuck with a HC that doesn't know how to handle a QB's Talents.
Our only hope is letting Jeremy Bates remain play caller.
It is all Griese's fault.
Cutler said he just talk to Shanny on Monday and Mike did not see this coming
The Broncos have not even contacted Cutler yet to let him know the direction of the team
- Culter on CBS4
TheReverend
12-30-2008, 04:16 PM
BULLSHIAT! I'd be willing to bet that certain players had a lot to do with this. Especially when you have players that no longer play for a coach. I know some of you didn't notice this (Taco, I'm talking to you!) but Mike Shanahan lost this team when he benched Plummer for Cutler. I personally thought it was a good move, but Shanny never recovered with several of the players.
Dude... if you're not counting the rookies from that year, there's like 3 dudes left from that regime.
Ekuban. Bailey. Nalen (if you count that).
...and, uhhhhhhh?
Bowlen says he wants a "young, offensive" head coach to help "develop Jay Cutler."
Did Jay Cutler have a say in this firing?
IF Bowlen listened to a 3rd year QB on personal decisions -- that's one way to create chaos on a young team...
Lets hope that Bowlen was indeed drunk -- we dont need help on offence anyway....and how in the hell is a young guy going to be qualified on his inexperince alone -- I know it works if gunning for the presidency, but this is more important... :wiggle:
12th man
12-30-2008, 04:18 PM
Bowlen says he wants a "young, offensive" head coach to help "develop Jay Cutler."
Did Jay Cutler have a say in this firing?
you know, i think bates is going to be the head coach. he's young, aggressive, had the experience under shanny, is creative, buddy's with jay....it's gonna be bates...count on it
Kaylore
12-30-2008, 04:19 PM
This is a funny thread.
I bet you the Goodman's might have said something though...
BroncoBuff
12-30-2008, 04:20 PM
John Elway was consulted before he fired Reeves, that's a matter of record. So I didn't think this was a stretch, especially after Bowlen said he wanted a coach to "develop Cutler."
BULLSHIAT! I'd be willing to bet that certain players had a lot to do with this. Especially when you have players that no longer play for a coach. I know some of you didn't notice this (Taco, I'm talking to you!) but Mike Shanahan lost this team when he benched Plummer for Cutler. I personally thought it was a good move, but Shanny never recovered with several of the players.
Well, those players should be tossed out (unless it includes Champ he can do what he wants...)
IF the players have that much control in Denver (which I dont think is the case) then it would be another reason we imploded this year.
12th man
12-30-2008, 04:21 PM
No. CBS 4 on TV just played an interview of Cutler. He was surprised, and pretty ticked. He said "I feel its the wrong move" or something of that sort.
Just what we need, a defense that already blows, and now our franchise QB potentially getting stuck with a HC that doesn't know how to handle a QB's Talents.
Our only hope is letting Jeremy Bates remain play caller.
seriously, what the hell is bowlen thinking. If I was cutler I was be f'n pissed too. bowlens an ass.
Cutler said he just talk to Shanny on Monday and Mike did not see this coming
The Broncos have not even contacted Cutler yet to let him know the direction of the team
- Culter on CBS4
Jay needs to STFU and get ready to learn how to win games and not just load up on stats.
elsid13
12-30-2008, 04:23 PM
BULLSHIAT! I'd be willing to bet that certain players had a lot to do with this. Especially when you have players that no longer play for a coach. I know some of you didn't notice this (Taco, I'm talking to you!) but Mike Shanahan lost this team when he benched Plummer for Cutler. I personally thought it was a good move, but Shanny never recovered with several of the players.
guess it wasn't bull see the post above. Pez said Wabbit hinted something was up yesterday and it was shocker. Were the wabbit when really need him.
you know, i think bates is going to be the head coach. he's young, aggressive, had the experience under shanny, is creative, buddy's with jay....it's gonna be bates...count on it
I think you might be right -- Bates meets all the criteria -- being young. Freaking great...
guess it wasn't bull see the post above. Pez said Wabbit hinted something was up yesterday and it was shocker. Were the wabbit when really need him.
thinking the same thing...
SportinOne
12-30-2008, 04:26 PM
BULLSHIAT! I'd be willing to bet that certain players had a lot to do with this. Especially when you have players that no longer play for a coach. I know some of you didn't notice this (Taco, I'm talking to you!) but Mike Shanahan lost this team when he benched Plummer for Cutler. I personally thought it was a good move, but Shanny never recovered with several of the players.
And which players from that season that were still here this season are you referring to?
QB: Cutler? I don't think he'd have issues with the move.
RB: Tatum Bell? Hmmm, That's why he fumbles!
FB: no
TE: no
WR: no
Oline: Played at the highest level we've seen in a VERY long time.
Dline: The only one, off the top of my head, Ekuban... wait.. Dumervil... THAT'S why he regressed right? The rest are awful to begin with anyway..
LB: Williams? Well he was hurt all year so he doesn't apply.
CB: Champ was hurt, but even if he wasn't, there's no way in hell he doesn't go all out because of some stupid grudge.
S: No
No offense but.. that theory holds absolutely no water when you are talking about the 2008 season.
John Elway was consulted before he fired Reeves, that's a matter of record. So I didn't think this was a stretch, especially after Bowlen said he wanted a coach to "develop Cutler."
John Elway wasn't in his 3rd year he was the franchise at the time. Apples to oranges bro...
Wait a second, did he REALLY say that? Are you kidding me Pat? This team needs improvements but i'm fairly certain that offense was NOT the problem... oh man..
Hell, maybe Al Davis consulted Satan and put a hex on us? This sounds like something that would happen in Oakland.
Dexter
12-30-2008, 04:29 PM
And which players from that season that were still here this season are you referring to?
QB: Cutler? I don't think he'd have issues with the move.
RB: Tatum Bell? Hmmm, That's why he fumbles!
FB: no
TE: no
WR: no
Oline: Played at the highest level we've seen in a VERY long time.
Dline: The only one, off the top of my head, Ekuban... wait.. Dumervil... THAT'S why he regressed right? The rest are awful to begin with anyway..
LB: Williams? Well he was hurt all year so he doesn't apply.
CB: Champ was hurt, but even if he wasn't, there's no way in hell he doesn't go all out because of some stupid grudge.
S: No
No offense but.. that theory holds absolutely no water when you are talking about the 2008 season.
Cutler already has stated he doesn't like the move, you should watch CBS 4
I'm fairly sure most of the offense is going to be pretty disappointed with this move. The defense on the other hand.... who knows. I'm sure Slowik is pretty sad now lol. There is absolutley no way he returns next year now.
Actually rumor has it Shanahan was fired because he refused to fire slowik.
snowspot66
12-30-2008, 04:29 PM
Wait a second, did he REALLY say that? Are you kidding me Pat? This team needs improvements but i'm fairly certain that offense was NOT the problem... oh man..
We need somebody to keep the offense high powered. We have the personell for it. Mike was fired because the defense sucked and Pat wasn't having any of Slowik for next year. I'm sure he's seen the stat sheet too and wasn't impressed. I expect Pat will bring in a good offensive coach who will bring in somebody qualified to build a defense. Compared to Slowik that could be damned near anybody.
I would not be surprised to see Goldmans @ GM and Bates @ HC
Broncojef
12-30-2008, 04:33 PM
I would not be surprised to see Goldmans @ GM and Bates @ HC
We need a defensive guru not more of the same. I think Bowlen has a big name or two to drop into those slots. You don't fire Shanny for Goldman and Bates.
SportinOne
12-30-2008, 04:33 PM
Cutler already has stated he doesn't like the move,
The "move" that i'm referring to is not Bowlen firing Shanahan but Shanahan replacing Jake with Jay, which, as you could imagine (and i could be wrong), Jay probably had no problem with.
you should watch CBS 4
You should learn how to ****ing read.
...just kidding, easy mistake.
orangenblue
12-30-2008, 04:33 PM
John Elway was consulted before he fired Reeves, that's a matter of record. So I didn't think this was a stretch, especially after Bowlen said he wanted a coach to "develop Cutler."
Cutler isn't Elway. It's not even close
tsiguy96
12-30-2008, 04:35 PM
this sucks, thats for sure. if shanahan only allowed someone else to develop the defense, i gaurantee you this wouldnt have happened..
BlaK-Argentina
12-30-2008, 04:36 PM
I would not be surprised to see Goldmans @ GM and Bates @ HC
That wouldn't be so bad... or... hell I don't know what to think. I wanted Shanny one more year.
SportinOne
12-30-2008, 04:51 PM
This is the closest i will come to calling this a good move.. but.. IF Slowik is REALLY that bad, and Shanahan refused to get rid of him, i mean.. what else can you do i guess? Really really unfortunate.
Kaylore
12-30-2008, 04:56 PM
This is the closest i will come to calling this a good move.. but.. IF Slowik is REALLY that bad, and Shanahan refused to get rid of him, i mean.. what else can you do i guess? Really really unfortunate.
I thought Shanahan deserved one more year, but after Slowik's comments and especially after Shanahan said he was going to retain him, my support for Mike went way down. I don't know how anyone can see Slowik's record with the crap he put on the field and think that deserved a second showing. Pathetic all the way around.
elsid13
12-30-2008, 04:57 PM
cutler reaction
http://cbs4denver.com/video/?id=51126@kcnc.dayport.com
cutler reaction
http://cbs4denver.com/video/?id=51126@kcnc.dayport.com
Shut up Jay. You play for the Denver Broncos, not the Denver Shanahan's.
Grow up kid, and you have alot of growing you need to do, and just sit back and be the team captain you are supposed to be.
It's more than just wearing a C on your chest kid.
You (Jay) need to learn a few things about being a NFL quarterback. Your not John Elway, Joe Montana, Dan Marino, Jim Kelly. You are Jay nobody until you win.
So until then shut up and roll with it.
TheReverend
12-30-2008, 06:45 PM
Shut up Jay. You play for the Denver Broncos, not the Denver Shanahan's.
Grow up kid, and you have alot of growing you need to do, and just sit back and be the team captain you are supposed to be.
It's more than just wearing a C on your chest kid.
You (Jay) need to learn a few things about being a NFL quarterback. Your not John Elway, Joe Montana, Dan Marino, Jim Kelly. You are Jay nobody until you win.
So until then shut up and roll with it.
Yeah!
He really should just shut up and learn about the Denver Broncos organization and football team from a real insider like Heav!
How dare he!
Hotrod
12-31-2008, 07:04 AM
apparently I once again find myself in the bottom 1.64% of a OM poll :nono:
Am I the only one here that knows ****???
Hotrod
12-31-2008, 07:06 AM
LOL The forum has been renamed "Thunderdome"
Nice work Taco Ha!
elsid13
12-31-2008, 07:07 AM
apparently I once again find myself in the bottom 1.64% of a OM poll :nono:
Am I the only one here that knows ****???
I think we can all agree you ****. But beside manure were not to sure about anything else. ;D
55CrushEm
12-31-2008, 07:09 AM
One ESPN article said that it may indeed have been Mike's refusal to fire Slowik, that pushed Bowlen......that Bowlen asked Shanahan to get rid of Slow....and Shanahan said he "would not fire another d-coordinator"....
Who knows?
Lolad
12-31-2008, 07:24 AM
Cutler has already said himself that he would not be where he is today if it wasn't for mike. This might stunt his growth for sure
Yeah!
He really should just shut up and learn about the Denver Broncos organization and football team from a real insider like Heav!
How dare he!
Jay Cutler could use to learn a lot about the NFL from damn near anyone on this board.
This isn't college where you pick a program based on the coach or the academic program. This is the NFL. You get picked by an organization to win games for that organization. Doesn't matter who picked you or when, once you're drafted/signed you belong to that organization. The fans get it, we cheer for the laundry. Stop wearing our colors and we largely don't care. Fail to win when wearing our colors? We care a whole lot, in a negative way. The coach is immaterial because he's under contract to wear the laundry we all pull for on Sundays for the next three years, minimum.
If personal attachments mean more to him than a successful NFL career then good for him, throw a fit and watch yourself get black balled out of the league. Good QBs come around all the time, there are only 32 organizations that pay you great money to play football.