Where is the deep threat?

[RobBronco1977]

Have I missed it, or has Cutler not thrown a pass over 20 yards in a couple of games now. It seems like they've forgotten that Eddie can run. The control pass game is fine, but some times you just gotta air it out.

[Inkana7]

That hasn't been our passing game at all this year. We tried airing it out downfield. Know what happened? Oakland beat us by 21.

[cutthemdown]

teams are playing a lot of deep zones with the safety's. So much cover 2 it's hard to get deep outside.

Since Scheff got dinged we don't have the down the seem deep threat to keep the safety's off Royal and Marshall when the run 9 routes.

[BroncoMan4ever]

defenses are playing their Safeties deep, and dropping more guys into coverage making Jay have to settle for shorter passes. they are keeping everything in front of them

[PaintballCLE]

we need more 4 and 5 wr sets.........it seems like all we ever use is marshall, royal, stokely, and a TE how about throwingin some matchup problems with 4 wr's or even 5 once in a while

[watermock]

They know we can't run. period.

If our line wasn't so good at pass blocking nd Cutler didn't have a cannon, we would be completely impotent on offense.

The loss of Hillis makes us a sub .500 team. MAYBE we win the division by default.

[RobBronco1977]

but some times you gotta go deep just to keep them honest. The raiders beat our passing game because we kept throwing the exact same mid range pass to marshall all night long.
But if the safeties are all playing deep, shouldn't we be able to run easier?

[ludo21]

Once Putz gets in the flow and controls the middle of the field the outside deep zones will be open.

[elsid13]

Once Putz gets in the flow and controls the middle of the field the outside deep zones will be open.

I can not believe you just called "JACKED UP" the key to offense. Uhh

[TheDave]

Have I missed it, or has Cutler not thrown a pass over 20 yards in a couple of games now. It seems like they've forgotten that Eddie can run. The control pass game is fine, but some times you just gotta air it out.

6 RB's are on IR and your wondering where the deepball is???

[cutthemdown]

we need more 4 and 5 wr sets.........it seems like all we ever use is marshall, royal, stokely, and a TE how about throwingin some matchup problems with 4 wr's or even 5 once in a while

Problem is Stokely isn't 100% D.Jackson either. Throw in Sheff limping around and it's tough to go 4-5 wr.

[RobBronco1977]

6 RB's are on IR and your wondering where the deepball is???

Oh, i must have missed the rule about not throwing deep if your rbs are on ir. shame on me. you're right. if you don't have a run threat then by all means you should make the pass offense one dimensional as well.

darn dave, you are a genius

[ludo21]

I can not believe you just called "JACKED UP" the key to offense. Uhh

Thats what happens when injuries happen...

[broncs2bowl]

Oh, i must have missed the rule about not throwing deep if your rbs are on ir. shame on me. you're right. if you don't have a run threat then by all means you should make the pass offense one dimensional as well.

darn dave, you are a genius

without a running threat y should defenses keep guys up at the line. THey send safeties back preventing us from going deeep.

u r nething but a genius

[TheDave]

Oh, i must have missed the rule about not throwing deep if your rbs are on ir. shame on me. you're right. if you don't have a run threat then by all means you should make the pass offense one dimensional as well.

darn dave, you are a genius

Football 101...

if there is no running game then your linebackers and safties are free to take deeper drops. It makes the deep ball a lot less realistic when your recievers are essentially double covered.

Force teams to play a safety in the box and your deep routes will open up.

Now good luck on your 14th post... :thumbs:

[BabyTO]

Has Cutler ever completed a pass over 50 yards? And im not talking about a 5yd throw that Marshall turned into a 70 yard touchdown by breaking 7 tackles. But yeah lets blame the RBs, the O-Line, the receivers and the coaches. It couldn't be that Cutler might be the issue here. No way.

[TheDave]

Has Cutler ever completed a pass over 50 yards? And im not talking about a 5yd throw that Marshall turned into a 70 yard touchdown by breaking 7 tackles


Royal against the Browns...

[broncs2bowl]

Has Cutler ever completed a pass over 50 yards? And im not talking about a 5yd throw that Marshall turned into a 70 yard touchdown by breaking 7 tackles. But yeah lets blame the RBs, the O-Line, the receivers and the coaches. It couldn't be that Cutler might be the issue here. No way.


marshall san diego, Javon Walker his rookie year 65 yars he can throw the deep ball thats for sure

[Bronx33]

Has Cutler ever completed a pass over 50 yards? And im not talking about a 5yd throw that Marshall turned into a 70 yard touchdown by breaking 7 tackles. But yeah lets blame the RBs, the O-Line, the receivers and the coaches. It couldn't be that Cutler might be the issue here. No way.


Pay attention....

[BroncoMan4ever]

marshall san diego, Javon Walker his rookie year 65 yars he can throw the deep ball thats for sure

eddie royal 93 yards this year.

[broncosteven]

Has Cutler ever completed a pass over 50 yards? And im not talking about a 5yd throw that Marshall turned into a 70 yard touchdown by breaking 7 tackles. But yeah lets blame the RBs, the O-Line, the receivers and the coaches. It couldn't be that Cutler might be the issue here. No way.

Do you jamokes watch any Bronco football?

What about the 93 yarder to Royal Vs Browns or was it Atlanta? I think it was vs Browns because I think the Atlanta game he threw a 58 yarder all air no YAK to Marshall to comeback and win that one.

Or the 59 yarder beating the 2 deep zone vs Jets?


The answer is above, Cover 2 with safety's deep takes away the deep ball not our Probowl QB. We have no legit run game before or after Hillis. At best we are one and done and book the experience for next year after we draft a couple Safety's, an MLB and another RB late.

[broncolife]

were to busy throwing reciever screens

[Blart]

we need more 4 and 5 wr sets.........it seems like all we ever use is marshall, royal, stokely, and a TE how about throwingin some matchup problems with 4 wr's or even 5 once in a while

Agreed 100%. Why even fake that we have a run game? We're not fooling anyone.

[DarkHorse]

That hasn't been our passing game at all this year. We tried airing it out downfield. Know what happened? Oakland beat us by 21.

Agreed, however, during that game we threw deep every other pass for some odd reason.

[Peoples Champ]

We have 2 deep threats, Royal and Marshall, we just dont use both at one time. We use only one, and cutler stares them down the entire time, so the DBs have it read. If cutler could look off a DB or two it would work.

[oubronco]

Problem is Stokely isn't 100% D.Jackson either. Throw in Sheff limping around and it's tough to go 4-5 wr.

then put chad jackson in and sit D jack

[Smiling Assassin27]

Have I missed it, or has Cutler not thrown a pass over 20 yards in a couple of games now. It seems like they've forgotten that Eddie can run. The control pass game is fine, but some times you just gotta air it out.

He's wearing #87 for the Raiders currently...

[cmhargrove]

then put chad jackson in and sit D jack

He might be exactly the guy for the deep ball.

Watch some of the double moves the Eagles run all the time, there is our chance for the deep ball. If the first move gets the safety to bite, the WR can "split the seam" and be open deep. Chad Jackson looks like he has the speed, but I don't know if he can sell the route.

Hell, even a slow Rod Smith could make a really good double move and get open over the top. He may not outrun anyone to the end zone, but he could get open.

I would like to see about 2-3 deep balls a game thrown to a guy not named Marshall (because he is always double covered).

[kamakazi_kal]

easy one..... tatum bell means nobody has to respect the run and can drop deep.

[Beantown Bronco]

Do you jamokes watch any Bronco football?

What about the 93 yarder to Royal Vs Browns or was it Atlanta? I think it was vs Browns because I think the Atlanta game he threw a 58 yarder all air no YAK to Marshall to comeback and win that one.

Or the 59 yarder beating the 2 deep zone vs Jets?


The answer is above, Cover 2 with safety's deep takes away the deep ball not our Probowl QB. We have no legit run game before or after Hillis. At best we are one and done and book the experience for next year after we draft a couple Safety's, an MLB and another RB late.

I actually see where he's coming from with the original post. Sort of.

I have noticed that on the deep post patterns in particular, Cutler loses quite a bit of accuracy. He can't seem to hit a WR in stride very well over 30 yards or so. I'm not saying it's easy, but there are a handful of guys that excel at this. So far this season, he hasn't. He seemed to do it well a few times last year, but for some reason seems to have lost a little bit of it this year for whatever reason.

The 93 yarder to Royal vs the Browns? It wasn't really a deep throw. Royal caught it at the 35 and ran 65 for the TD.

The deep Marshall pass vs. Atlanta? Was underthrown by a good 5 yards. Marshall adjusted and made the catch. Should have been a TD if it was thrown to him in stride.

The 59 yarder vs the Jets? Not really a deep throw. He caught it about 15-20 yards from the LOS and ran it in from around the 40.

[RobBronco1977]

Dave, your second post to this thread made sense. Then you had to be a smartass again. Guess you just can't help it, it's the way you are. Way to keep the good spirit on the board.
In the Carolina game the defense did not play deep. They played middle because they felt we weren't going deep. And they were right and shut us down. I still feel that you have to make a team respect the deep threat. And the only way to do that is to take a shot some times.

[Broncobiv]

Has Cutler ever completed a pass over 50 yards? And im not talking about a 5yd throw that Marshall turned into a 70 yard touchdown by breaking 7 tackles. But yeah lets blame the RBs, the O-Line, the receivers and the coaches. It couldn't be that Cutler might be the issue here. No way.
Are you retarded?

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The video is pretty sorry, but that's the play at least. I know I've seen it A LOT better in the past, but maybe the video has been taken down for some reason.

[Malcontent]

Dave, your second post to this thread made sense. Then you had to be a smartass again. Guess you just can't help it, it's the way you are. Way to keep the good spirit on the board.
In the Carolina game the defense did not play deep. They played middle because they felt we weren't going deep. And they were right and shut us down. I still feel that you have to make a team respect the deep threat. And the only way to do that is to take a shot some times.

Good point Rob1977..but your Avy has Champs thighs and calves looking like my 87 year old Uncle Barneys'.;D

[TheDave]

Dave, your second post to this thread made sense. Then you had to be a smartass again. Guess you just can't help it, it's the way you are. Way to keep the good spirit on the board.
In the Carolina game the defense did not play deep. They played middle because they felt we weren't going deep. And they were right and shut us down. I still feel that you have to make a team respect the deep threat. And the only way to do that is to take a shot some times.

Actually according to Cutler they mixed up their coverages so much that they had him confused... My guess is that if they had him confused your assumption that they played "middle" and just ignored the deep ball is wrong. Without a running game teams are not going to waste much time stacking the line and leave themselves open to deep outs, posts, etc. Trust me the coaching staff isn't avoiding the longball on purpose.

Having said that, good luck on post 15. ;)

[cutthemdown]

then put chad jackson in and sit D jack

Ok so Marshall/Royal/C.Jackson but still you got Stokely limping around and also Scheff limping around. By doing this you take Graham and his physical blocking out of the game.

[Beantown Bronco]

I actually see where he's coming from with the original post. Sort of.

I have noticed that on the deep post patterns in particular, Cutler loses quite a bit of accuracy. He can't seem to hit a WR in stride very well over 30 yards or so. I'm not saying it's easy, but there are a handful of guys that excel at this. So far this season, he hasn't. He seemed to do it well a few times last year, but for some reason seems to have lost a little bit of it this year for whatever reason.

*cough*

[Rock Chalk]

Q: Where is the deep threat?
A: 10 yards past the receiver :)