Pro Bowl rosters will be revealed Tuesday

[Bronco LB 59]

The Pro Bowl rosters will be announced at 2 p.m. MST on Tuesday.

Five NFL.com writers put together their Pro Bowl squads and here are the results:

Jay Cutler was listed on all 5 teams.

Brandon Marshall was on 4 of 5 teams.

Ryan Clady was on all 5 teams.

Ben Hamilton was on 1 of 5 teams.

http://www.nfl.com/probowl/story?id=09000d5d80d5a10d&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true

[BroncoDoug]

I hope Clady get in!!! He deserves it more then any other Bronco

[broncolife]

I wonder if Burger will make it. :)

[BroncoMan4ever]

Clady's work against Peppers has to get him some notice.

Clady is performing like a 10 year vet.

[Bronco Bob]

So how many Redskins players will be in the Pro Bowl?

[CHANGSTER]

Interesting. I just noticed how underwhelming the AFC pro bowl QB options are this year. No offense to Cutler, theirs just not a no brainier at the position this year. That goes for the RB's too.

It wouldn't kill me if Marshall didn't make it, but I'll be plenty pissed if Clady doesn't.

[DB_champ24]

Interesting. I just noticed how underwhelming the AFC pro bowl QB options are this year. No offense to Cutler, theirs just not a no brainier at the position this year. That goes for the RB's too.

It wouldn't kill me if Marshall didn't make it, but I'll be plenty pissed if Clady doesn't.

QB's just missing Tom Brady...If he would have played it would be Brady, Manning and Cutler.

[Taco John]

My prediction (along with probably everyone else):

Cutler
Marshall
Clady
Bailey

[CHANGSTER]

QB's just missing Tom Brady...If he would have played it would be Brady, Manning and Cutler.

True, but even Manning hasn't exactly been Manning this season.

[tsiguy96]

bailey wont make it cuz coaches and players wont vote him in.

[tsiguy96]

i pray that both cutler and rivers are on the same sideline.

[DB_champ24]

True, but even Manning hasn't exactly been Manning this season.

Manning has turned it on as of late. The colts aren't the same team, that's a huge factor to why he isn't amazing during this regular season. The oline isn't what it use to be and the run game is worse than ours. Colts are 10-4 but do have a better Defense than us as they can put pressure on the QB.

[DomCasual]

I can't believe none of them have anyone from our defense making it? ???

In all seriousness, I hate Pat Kirwan.

[BroncoMan4ever]

QB's just missing Tom Brady...If he would have played it would be Brady, Manning and Cutler.

I am sorry, but if Cassell has proven anything this year it is this, Tom Brady is not as good as everyone seems to think he is.

and i will defend why i say this. Cassell hasn't played as more than a mop-up duty QB since his high school days around 8 years ago, yet he has led that team to a 9-5 record and possibly a playoff berth. If Brady were playing the Cheatriots are what 11-3 at this point in the season. The point i am making is that an average QB who hasn't played in 8 years until this season has the team still in contention. By that reasoning an actual QB who has played in recent seasons, who knew the system could easily duplicate what Brady had done. Brian Griese could get the job done. Similar skills to Brady, intelligent, doesn't take a lot of risks, gets the job done. Put him in at QB for the Cheatriots and his numbers match Brady's

[DB_champ24]

I am sorry, but if Cassell has proven anything this year it is this, Tom Brady is not as good as everyone seems to think he is.

and i will defend why i say this. Cassell hasn't played as more than a mop-up duty QB since his high school days around 8 years ago, yet he has led that team to a 9-5 record and possibly a playoff berth. If Brady were playing the Cheatriots are what 11-3 at this point in the season. The point i am making is that an average QB who hasn't played in 8 years until this season has the team still in contention. By that reasoning an actual QB who has played in recent seasons, who knew the system could easily duplicate what Brady had done. Brian Griese could get the job done. Similar skills to Brady, intelligent, doesn't take a lot of risks, gets the job done. Put him in at QB for the Cheatriots and his numbers match Brady's

Never said Tom Brady was god but if he would have played he would have made the pro bowl. That's all I'm saying. I agree with a lot that your saying but Tom Brady is a very good QB and no Brian Griese would not match his numbers. Thats going way too far...Patriots would be close to undefeated right now and would most likely be the favorites to win the Super Bowl with Brady.

[richpjr]

I am sorry, but if Cassell has proven anything this year it is this, Tom Brady is not as good as everyone seems to think he is.

and i will defend why i say this. Cassell hasn't played as more than a mop-up duty QB since his high school days around 8 years ago, yet he has led that team to a 9-5 record and possibly a playoff berth. If Brady were playing the Cheatriots are what 11-3 at this point in the season. The point i am making is that an average QB who hasn't played in 8 years until this season has the team still in contention. By that reasoning an actual QB who has played in recent seasons, who knew the system could easily duplicate what Brady had done. Brian Griese could get the job done. Similar skills to Brady, intelligent, doesn't take a lot of risks, gets the job done. Put him in at QB for the Cheatriots and his numbers match Brady's

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's see what Cassell does IF they even make the playoffs before you go anointing Brady the product of a system.

[BroncoMan4ever]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's see what Cassell does IF they even make the playoffs before you go anointing Brady the product of a system.

I don't care what Cassel does in the playoffs. HE HAS NOT PLAYED COMPETITIVE FOOTBALL SINCE HIGH SCHOOL and he still has that team in a position to get into the playoffs.

does anyone honestly think now, that an NFL veteran QB could not have duplicated Brady's work? just don't make any stupid mistakes, make good reads, and throw a catchable ball and you could lead the Pats to the playoffs.

Guys like Pennington, Griese, Delhomme and Warner could easily have matched Brady's accomplishments, smart QB's who don't put the team in position to lose.

Brady is this generations Montana. marginally talented QB who lucked out and played for a really talented team and a good coach.

[BroncoMan4ever]

Never said Tom Brady was god but if he would have played he would have made the pro bowl. That's all I'm saying. I agree with a lot that your saying but Tom Brady is a very good QB and no Brian Griese would not match his numbers. Thats going way too far...Patriots would be close to undefeated right now and would most likely be the favorites to win the Super Bowl with Brady.

ok, maybe not Griese, but the point i am making is a QB with only high school playing experience and practices in college and the pros has that team competing. that right there says that any QB that doesn't put the team in a position to lose, could win in NE.
had Cassel had real game experience in the pros and not just High School game experience i truly think there would have been no drop off in wins or stats from when Brady played to him not playing.

[broncofan7]

I don't care what Cassel does in the playoffs. HE HAS NOT PLAYED COMPETITIVE FOOTBALL SINCE HIGH SCHOOL and he still has that team in a position to get into the playoffs.

does anyone honestly think now, that an NFL veteran QB could not have duplicated Brady's work? just don't make any stupid mistakes, make good reads, and throw a catchable ball and you could lead the Pats to the playoffs.

Guys like Pennington, Griese, Delhomme and Warner could easily have matched Brady's accomplishments, smart QB's who don't put the team in position to lose.

Brady is this generations Montana. marginally talented QB who lucked out and played for a really talented team and a good coach.

Montana led the Chiefs to their only AFCG in 3 plus decades........Brady won 3 SB's prior to Moss & Welker arriving. I respectfully disagree that Brady is just an average QB, as I do regarding Joe Montana. Now, I do think that Cassel did walk into a fortunate situation for him--but I certainly think that the Pats are better of with Brady than Cassel.

[Kaylore]

I was listening to Jay Cutler Live last night and Jay said his gut told him he wasn't going to get. He said he felt it would be Brett, Manning, and Big Ben. He did say he would love to go but didn't like his chances.

I think Marshall will get in and Clady will be an alternate. Jay will end up being wrong, too. ;D

[lookin' glass]

As far as Broncos go I think Harris should have been considered before Marshall.

[Peoples Champ]

I swear Philup Rivers better not get it.

[PRBronco]

Cool to see someone give Hamilton some love; kind of odd though, I'd say he's been the least impressive of our linemen this year (dont' get me wrong, I'm a big Hamilton fan, but the other 4 have been outstanding).

I'd be at peace with Marshall not getting in, I think he could probably use a kick in the pants like that to keep him grounded, sometimes I worry his head's not in it (see: drops).

[toad]

I swear Philup Rivers better not get it.

Beyond being a Bronco fan, why?

In the AFC, he's:

#1 in Passer Rating
#1 in TDs thrown
#3 in Yards thrown
#6 in Completion %

And, although SD has been pretty dissappointing, Rivers has had some very gutsy performances.

He easily should be on the AFC squad....

[Kaylore]

Rivers should get in instead of Favre but Green Bay fans and New York fans will make sure Favre goes.

[Peoples Champ]

Beyond being a Bronco fan, why?

In the AFC, he's:

#1 in Passer Rating
#1 in TDs thrown
#3 in Yards thrown
#6 in Completion %

And, although SD has been pretty dissappointing, Rivers has had some very gutsy performances.

He easily should be on the AFC squad....


Ya , i guess I take that whole MVP arguement too much into account. You have to make your team better with wins. A sub 500 team not going to the playoffs doesnt cut it.

Lets say Detriot Lions had a amazing QB that was #1 passer rating and TD's but still were 0-14, should he make it? I know thats a highly unlikely scenario, but what if?

[Beantown Bronco]

Ya , i guess I take that whole MVP arguement too much into account. You have to make your team better with wins. A sub 500 team not going to the playoffs doesnt cut it.

Lets say Detriot Lions had a amazing QB that was #1 passer rating and TD's but still were 0-14, should he make it? I know thats a highly unlikely scenario, but what if?

This isn't MVP voting....this is Pro Bowl voting. 2 completely different criteria for 2 completely different post season awards.

[mr007]

I don't care what Cassel does in the playoffs. HE HAS NOT PLAYED COMPETITIVE FOOTBALL SINCE HIGH SCHOOL and he still has that team in a position to get into the playoffs.

does anyone honestly think now, that an NFL veteran QB could not have duplicated Brady's work? just don't make any stupid mistakes, make good reads, and throw a catchable ball and you could lead the Pats to the playoffs.

Guys like Pennington, Griese, Delhomme and Warner could easily have matched Brady's accomplishments, smart QB's who don't put the team in position to lose.

Brady is this generations Montana. marginally talented QB who lucked out and played for a really talented team and a good coach.


Are you kidding me? Marginally talented? Brady has done more with less than pretty much any quarterback in the NFL. He has been blessed with a pretty solid offensive line, but has had a mediocre receiving corps for the majority of his career. Surround him with the offensive prowess that Manning has been blessed with and I'd bet his stats would be off the charts.

I freakin' hate the Patriots, but to call Brady marginally talented is completely retarded.

[Peoples Champ]

This isn't MVP voting....this is Pro Bowl voting. 2 completely different criteria for 2 completely different post season awards.


You are right, but I said I use the MVP voting for my opinion too much then I should. Which is why i dont think Rivers should make it, but that is not the realcriteria, so he probably will. I was just talking about my opinion.

[socalorado]

This isn't MVP voting....this is Pro Bowl voting. 2 completely different criteria for 2 completely different post season awards.

Yes, yes and yes. Rivers should go to the Pro Bowl.

[Beantown Bronco]

You are right, but I said I use the MVP voting for my opinion too much then I should. Which is why i dont think Rivers should make it, but that is not the realcriteria, so he probably will. I was just talking about my opinion.

Understood....but you have to take into account how your logic would affect GREAT players on piss poor or mediocre teams. Look at the past few seasons. Guys like Patrick Willis and Frank Gore, TJ Housyamama, Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Drew Brees, Steve Slaton and Joey Porter might not even get consideration for the Pro Bowl just because their teams might not be that good....even though they are absolutely dominating their positions.

One guy can only do so much for an NFL team in the grand scheme of things. This isn't basketball, where only 5 guys are on the field/court at the same time and one guy CAN make a real difference.

[Peoples Champ]

Understood....but you have to take into account how your logic would affect GREAT players on piss poor or mediocre teams. Look at the past few seasons. Guys like Patrick Willis and Frank Gore, TJ Housyamama, Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Drew Brees, Steve Slaton and Joey Porter might not even get consideration for the Pro Bowl just because their teams might not be that good....even though they are absolutely dominating their positions.

One guy can only do so much for an NFL team in the grand scheme of things. This isn't basketball, where only 5 guys are on the field/court at the same time and one guy CAN make a real difference.



Yep, good point.

There are many arguements against mine that make sense and are right.

Like if a WR was the best blocker on the team and was the major reason the team was 16-0, but he only had 10 catches all year. He shouldnt make the pro bowl. But if the WR had 120 Catches and didnt do anything else all year, and his team is 2-14, he should make the pro bowl

I am just interested how many probowlers come from teams 2-14, or 0-16, or even 5-11.

[400HZ]

Are you kidding me? Marginally talented? Brady has done more with less than pretty much any quarterback in the NFL. He has been blessed with a pretty solid offensive line, but has had a mediocre receiving corps for the majority of his career. Surround him with the offensive prowess that Manning has been blessed with and I'd bet his stats would be off the charts.

I freakin' hate the Patriots, but to call Brady marginally talented is completely retarded.

Brady made it to the AFCCG in 2006 with Reche Caldwell as his leading receiver and broken down Corey Dillon doing most of the rushing. Think of their Superbowl teams and who they had as offensive weapons. Most of those guys were out of the league within a couple years of getting big contracts from other teams.

[Dagmar]

What time is this announced?

[Garcia Bronco]

Brady made it to the AFCCG in 2006 with Reche Caldwell as his leading receiver and broken down Corey Dillon doing most of the rushing. Think of their Superbowl teams and who they had as offensive weapons. Most of those guys were out of the league within a couple years of getting big contracts from other teams.

And they were also cheating by recording defensive signals of the opposing team

[Bronco LB 59]

What time is this announced?

4 p.m. EST

3 p.m. CST

2 p.m. MST

1 p.m. PST

NFL Network will televise the selections.

[PRBronco]

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/default.htm

Front page Clady love!

[Peoples Champ]

Are you kidding me? Marginally talented? Brady has done more with less than pretty much any quarterback in the NFL. He has been blessed with a pretty solid offensive line, but has had a mediocre receiving corps for the majority of his career. Surround him with the offensive prowess that Manning has been blessed with and I'd bet his stats would be off the charts.

I freakin' hate the Patriots, but to call Brady marginally talented is completely retarded.



Matt Cassel is doing the same thing with a worse defense this year. I bet if you but in Cassels backup the same thing will happen. Plus, they tape defensive signals so Brady knows whats coming. Kinda like if you show me your play in Madden.

[TheReverend]

Antonio Pierce is an alternate... that's all I got so far really.

[Dagmar]

4 p.m. EST

3 p.m. CST

2 p.m. MST

1 p.m. PST

NFL Network will televise the selections.

http://forum.football365.com/images/smiley_icons/5.gif

[bowtown]

Antonio Pierce is an alternate... that's all I got so far really.

No, you must have misread. Pretty sure it said Antonio Pierce is an accomplice.

[Bronco LB 59]

Six Giants made the Pro Bowl

http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/ny-spgpro1217,0,7658530.story

QB: Eli Manning
G: Chris Snee
C: Shaun O'Hard
DE: Justin Tuck
K: John Carney
P: Jeff Feagles

[HILife]

My prediction (along with probably everyone else):

Cutler
Marshall
Clady
Bailey
Cooked Crack!!!!111!!!!!

Fixed it

[pink_feet]

I was listening to Jay Cutler Live last night and Jay said his gut told him he wasn't going to get. He said he felt it would be Brett, Manning, and Big Ben. He did say he would love to go but didn't like his chances.

I think Marshall will get in and Clady will be an alternate. Jay will end up being wrong, too. ;D

Rothelisberger sucks, so I dont understand Jay's logic here. Ben is completely overrated. He has a ring, but he played like dog **** in the Super Bowl.

[BroncoBuff]

15 minutes to go ... I'm betting all three get it, Marshall a starter.

[bowtown]

I bet at least 6 of our safeties will not go.

[bronco militia]

I bet at least 6 of our safeties will not go.

I'll see your 6 safeties and raise you our 8 RB's

:giggle:

[montrose]

Marquand Manual for Honolulu!

[oubronco]

I'll see your 6 safeties and raise you our 8 RB's

:giggle:

and I'll raise you our front seven and backups

[Kaylore]

I'm posting to make you all scroll down. I'm a bastard.

[BroncoBuff]

I bet at least 6 of our safeties will not go.
Pretty sad, but all is not lost .... If we find some way to get Taylor Mays in the first round. We'll be slotted at pick #26 or so, but we have assets to move up and safeties are slightly undervalued in the draft. So if we slide Mays in at FS and team him with Josh Barrett at SS, we'll be set for 10+ years there.

ONE MINUTE TO GO!

[Old Dude]

We'll probably be shut out.

[Conklin]

jason peters, what a crock of ****

[Rulon Velvet Jones]

Bull****.

[Kaylore]

We'll probably be shut out.

Hey now, let's be optimistic. Marshall and Cutler have a decent shot.

[Dandaman]

http://www.nfl.com/probowl/story?id=09000d5d80d60467&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true

Clady didn't make it!!

Jay as a reserve, Marshall is a starter

[Kaylore]

I'm ok with Clady missing it as long as Jake long does too.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Awwwww, little Philip didn't make the team, that just tears me up inside.

[SoDak Bronco]

wow can't believe champ didn't make it..

[gyldenlove]

How the hell does Clady not make it? The only 2 players in the AFC you could argue ahead of him are Michael Roos and Joe Thomas.

[Kaylore]

Yeah! Jay made it! And so did Marshall! Good for both of them!

Also good to see Nnamdi finally get it and Cromartie get shut out.

[oubronco]

2009 Pro Bowl rosters

NFL.com

<TABLE class=standard_table cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR class=BUFcolors><TD colSpan=3>NFC</TD></TR><TR class=major_header><TD colSpan=3>Offense</TD></TR><TR><TH align=middle>Pos.</TH><TH align=middle>Starter(s)</TH><TH align=middle>Reserves</TH></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>Quarterback</TD><TD vAlign=top>Kurt Warner, Arizona</TD><TD vAlign=top>Drew Brees, New Orleans
Eli Manning, New York Giants</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>Running back</TD><TD vAlign=top>Adrian Peterson, Minnesota</TD><TD vAlign=top>Michael Turner, Atlanta
Clinton Portis, Washington</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>Fullback</TD><TD vAlign=top>Mike Sellers, Washington</TD><TD vAlign=top> </TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>Wide receiver</TD><TD vAlign=top>Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona
Anquan Boldin, Arizona</TD><TD vAlign=top>Steve Smith, Carolina
Roddy White, Atlanta</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>Tight end</TD><TD vAlign=top>Jason Witten, Dallas</TD><TD vAlign=top>Chris Cooley, Washington</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>Tackle</TD><TD vAlign=top>Jordan Gross, Carolina
Walter Jones, Seattle</TD><TD vAlign=top>Chris Samuels, Washington</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>Guard</TD><TD vAlign=top>Steve Hutchinson, Minnesota
Chris Snee, New York Giants</TD><TD vAlign=top>Leonard Davis, Dallas</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>Center</TD><TD vAlign=top>Andre Gurode, Dallas</TD><TD vAlign=top>Shaun O'Hara, New York Giants</TD></TR><TR class=major_header><TD colSpan=3>Defense</TD></TR><TR><TH align=middle>Pos.</TH><TH align=middle>Starter(s)</TH><TH align=middle>Reserves</TH></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>Defensive end</TD><TD vAlign=top>Julius Peppers, Carolina
Justin Tuck, New York Giants</TD><TD vAlign=top>Jared Allen, Minnesota</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>Defensive tackle</TD><TD vAlign=top>Kevin Williams, Minnesota
Jay Ratliff, Dallas</TD><TD vAlign=top>Pat Williams, Minnesota</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>Outside linebacker</TD><TD vAlign=top>DeMarcus Ware, Dallas
Lance Briggs, Chicago</TD><TD vAlign=top>Derrick Brooks, Tampa Bay</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>Inside linebacker</TD><TD vAlign=top>Patrick Willis, San Francisco</TD><TD vAlign=top>Jon Beason, Carolina</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>Cornerback</TD><TD vAlign=top>Charles Woodson, Green Bay
Antoine Winfield, Minnesota</TD><TD vAlign=top>Asante Samuel, Philadelphia</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>Free safety</TD><TD vAlign=top>Nick Collins, Green Bay</TD><TD vAlign=top>Brian Dawkins, Philadelphia</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>Strong safety</TD><TD vAlign=top>Adrian Wilson, Arizona</TD><TD vAlign=top> </TD></TR><TR class=major_header><TD colSpan=3>Special teams</TD></TR><TR><TH align=middle>Pos.</TH><TH align=middle>Starter(s)</TH><TH align=middle>Reserves</TH></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>Punter</TD><TD vAlign=top>Jeff Feagles, New York Giants</TD><TD vAlign=top> </TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>Placekicker</TD><TD vAlign=top>John Carney, New York Giants</TD><TD vAlign=top> </TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>Kick returner</TD><TD vAlign=top>Clifton Smith, Tampa Bay</TD><TD vAlign=top> </TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>Special teamer</TD><TD vAlign=top>Sean Morey, Arizona</TD><TD vAlign=top> </TD></TR><TR class=KCcolors><TD colSpan=3>AFC</TD></TR><TR class=major_header><TD colSpan=3>Offense</TD></TR><TR><TH align=middle>Pos.</TH><TH align=middle>Starter(s)</TH><TH align=middle>Reserves</TH></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>Quarterback</TD><TD vAlign=top>Peyton Manning, Indianapolis</TD><TD vAlign=top>Brett Favre, New York Jets
Jay Cutler, Denver</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>Running back</TD><TD vAlign=top>Thomas Jones, New York Jets</TD><TD vAlign=top>Chris Johnson, Tennessee
Ronnie Brown, Miami</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>Fullback</TD><TD vAlign=top>Le'Ron McClain, Baltimore</TD><TD vAlign=top> </TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>Wide receiver</TD><TD vAlign=top>Andre Johnson, Houston
Brandon Marshall, Denver</TD><TD vAlign=top>Reggie Wayne, Indianapolis
Wes Welker, New England</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>Tight end</TD><TD vAlign=top>Tony Gonzalez, Kansas City</TD><TD vAlign=top>Antonio Gates, San Diego
</TD><TD vAlign=top> </TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>Tackle</TD><TD vAlign=top>Joe Thomas, Cleveland
Jason Peters, Buffalo</TD><TD vAlign=top>Michael Roos, Tennessee
</TD><TD vAlign=top> </TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>Guard</TD><TD vAlign=top>Alan Faneca, New York Jets
Kris Dielman, San Diego</TD><TD vAlign=top>Brian Waters, Kansas City</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>Center</TD><TD vAlign=top>Kevin Mawae, Tennessee</TD><TD vAlign=top>Nick Mangold, New York Jets</TD></TR><TR class=major_header><TD colSpan=3>Defense</TD></TR><TR><TH align=middle>Pos.</TH><TH align=middle>Starter(s)</TH><TH align=middle>Reserves</TH></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>Defensive end</TD><TD vAlign=top>Mario Williams, Houston
Dwight Freeney, Indianapolis</TD><TD vAlign=top>Robert Mathis, Indianapolis</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>Defensive tackle</TD><TD vAlign=top>Albert Haynesworth, Tennessee
Kris Jenkins, New York Jets</TD><TD vAlign=top>Shaun Rogers, Cleveland</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>Outside linebacker</TD><TD vAlign=top>James Harrison, Pittsburgh
Joey Porter, Miami</TD><TD vAlign=top>Terrell Suggs, Baltimore</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>Inside linebacker</TD><TD vAlign=top>Ray Lewis, Baltimore</TD><TD vAlign=top>James Farrior, Pittsburgh</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>Cornerback</TD><TD vAlign=top>Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland
Cortland Finnegan, Tennessee</TD><TD vAlign=top>Darrelle Revis, New York Jets</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>Free safety</TD><TD vAlign=top>Ed Reed, Baltimore</TD><TD vAlign=top> </TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>Strong safety</TD><TD vAlign=top>Troy Polamalu, Pittsburgh</TD><TD vAlign=top>Chris Hope, Tennessee</TD></TR><TR class=major_header><TD colSpan=3>Special teams</TD></TR><TR><TH align=middle>Pos.</TH><TH align=middle>Starter(s)</TH><TH align=middle>Reserves</TH></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>Punter</TD><TD vAlign=top>Shane Lechler, Oakland</TD><TD vAlign=top> </TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>Placekicker</TD><TD vAlign=top>Stephen Gostkowski, New England</TD><TD vAlign=top> </TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>Kick returner</TD><TD vAlign=top>Leon Washington, New York Jets</TD><TD vAlign=top> </TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>Special teamer</TD><TD vAlign=top>Brendon Ayanbadejo, Baltimore</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

[BroncoBuff]

I'm ok with Clady missing it as long as Jake long does too.
Your hatred of Jake Long is equal to your love of Ryan Clady? I knew it!

Peters of Buffalo ... we were forgetting about him....

[HooptyHoops]

I don't understand how Clady doesn't make it...he is a left tackle and only given up .5 sacks all year!! I don't think another left tackle has those kind of stats....absolutely crazy!!

[SpringStein]

wow can't believe champ didn't make it..

Maybe John Lynch did? :thumbs:

[DB_champ24]

I'm so pissed Clady didn't make it

[Kaylore]

Clady still has a shot at all-pro and we can pad votes for the Diet Pepsi rookie of the year for him. It's ok, people. We knew this was coming.

[Kaylore]

Your hatred of Jake Long is equal to your love of Ryan Clady? I knew it!

Peters of Buffalo ... we were forgetting about him....

It's more a reflection of my hatred of fans who have no idea what they're looking at and just post the first name they can remember because he was the first overall pick.

[SoDak Bronco]

How do you know if Clady is the first alternate? Just if someone pulls out of the ProBowl?

[Flex Gunmetal]

I know PB is a joke, but I'm still surprised about Clady.

[Peoples Champ]

wow can't believe champ didn't make it..

Ya that sucks it ends his consecutive pro bowl streak. what was it 8?

[SoDak Bronco]

Maybe John Lynch did? :thumbs:

haha no doubt. I am surprised typically guys get in, not saying he deserves it more than those guys, but he is typically just given the nod.

[oubronco]

How do you know if Clady is the first alternate? Just if someone pulls out of the ProBowl?

and they will they always do

[PRBronco]

Holy crap the AFC front 7 on defense is going to be devestating.

[gyldenlove]

how the HELL does Peters get starter? he has given up 11.5 sacks, that is more than the ENTIRE Denver offense! He also has 8 penalties!

Holy ****, this is a bigger travesty of justice than if OJ had gotten off AGAIN!

[Peoples Champ]

Yes, yes and yes. Rivers should go to the Pro Bowl.



I guess Rivers didnt make it after all. I guess I was right


http://www.nfl.com/probowl/story?id=09000d5d80d60467&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true

[oubronco]

Holy crap the AFC front 7 on defense is going to be devestating.

the whole defense is stout

[Kaylore]

Here are some comments from Buffalo fans on Peters.
http://www.buffalorange.com/forumdisplay.php?f=5
He should be going to the toilet bowl.

WTF?

1 Pro Bowler and it's Jason Peters!!!??? WTF!!

for the 2nd time total bull****.

Looks like the fat sack of **** has leverage again

Farce.

Just goes to show it's based on past reputation.

Peters has allowed 11 sacks and been penalized 8 times. Hilarious!

[Peoples Champ]

Understood....but you have to take into account how your logic would affect GREAT players on piss poor or mediocre teams. Look at the past few seasons. Guys like Patrick Willis and Frank Gore, TJ Housyamama, Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Drew Brees, Steve Slaton and Joey Porter might not even get consideration for the Pro Bowl just because their teams might not be that good....even though they are absolutely dominating their positions.

One guy can only do so much for an NFL team in the grand scheme of things. This isn't basketball, where only 5 guys are on the field/court at the same time and one guy CAN make a real difference.



I think if San Diego had the same record as Denver, Rivers might had made it in the pro bowl over Cutler, so i think record might have a small amount to do with it.

[jutang]

The Bills forum comments on Peters is similar to my thinking when Deltha O'Neil made it to the probowl... all thanks to the KC game.

[Man-Goblin]

Holy crap the AFC front 7 on defense is going to be devestating.

Yeah. Those NFC posers better watch out. The AFC is gonna be BRINGING THE PAIN on Pro Bowl Sunday!!@!!!1

[SoDak Bronco]

Here are some comments from Buffalo fans on Peters.
http://www.buffalorange.com/forumdisplay.php?f=5










Peters has allowed 11 sacks and been penalized 8 times. Hilarious!

Wow that is even more disappointing...what a freaking joke!!

[Garcia Bronco]

HTF is Thomas ahead of ROOS and Clady. That's just nuts.

[Boss Man]

how many penalties has clady had?

[Jens1893]

Favre over Rivers, Brown over Slaton and Peters over Clady is just plain madness.

[SpringStein]

how many penalties has clady had?

Three. One hold, one motion and one chop block.

[Bronco LB 59]

Here are some comments from Buffalo fans on Peters.
http://www.buffalorange.com/forumdisplay.php?f=5

Peters has allowed 11 sacks and been penalized 8 times. Hilarious!

Good thing Peters is coming to town this Sunday. I encourage all Bronco fans to show up early to pregame warmups and rip into this chump. Low blows and family smack are highly encouraged.

I hope Dumervil uses this as motivation to have his best game of the year. Humiliate this guy for the bum he is.

[Garcia Bronco]

We shouldn't rip him, but tell him how great he is

[Dexter]

IIRC, 3 penalties and half a sack in his rookie year vs a vet that had 8 penalties 11 sacks.


Makes a lot of sense doesn't it?

[Bronco LB 59]

We shouldn't rip him, but tell him how great he is

Better idea:thumbs:

[400HZ]

It should have been Rivers over Favre, but who didn't see that one coming? Statistically he's blown Favre out of the water. The Jest didn't even start winning games until they stopped letting Favre throw and started giving T.Jones 30 carries a game.

Jason Peters is a joke, as has been pointed out.

I don't see how you send Kris Dielman when his team is averaging like 2 yards a rush.

Sending Robert Mathis isn't the third best DE in the AFC. He's not top ten.

[Kaylore]

The Bills fans are hilarious.
Jason Peters getting named to the pro bowl this year is like someone bronzing their turds..it just doesn't make any sense.

[Beantown Bronco]

Only one Pat starter (kicker) and one reserve (Welker)....

So much for East Coast bias.

[PRBronco]

I'm not sure if I'm comfortable with Cutler playing in this game with such questionable protection. Especially with Jared "lol I'm rolling" Allen on the other side. Let's let a handicapped kid go instead. A handicapped kid who throws side arm.

[Kaylore]

It should have been Rivers over Favre, but who didn't see that one coming? Statistically he's blown Favre out of the water. The Jest didn't even start winning games until they stopped letting Favre throw and started giving T.Jones 30 carries a game.

Jason Peters is a joke, as has been pointed out.

I don't know how to send Kris Dielman when his team is averaging like 2 yards a rush.

Sending Robert Mathis isn't the third best DE in the AFC. He's not top ten.

It's the Green Bay fans that worship Favre with the New York homers. All Favre does is throw screen passes and interceptions. It's pathetic.

[Kaylore]

Only one Pat starter (kicker) and one reserve (Welker)....

So much for East Coast bias.

That's because everyone hates them.

[Inkana7]

Bull****.

Isn't Peters hurt, though?

[Peoples Champ]

I like this one from the Bills message board

Quote " Looks like the fat sack of s*** has leverage again"

[boltaneer]

<!-- / icon and title --> <!-- message --> Favre over Rivers is a joke.

Dielman didn't deserve to be a backup much less a starter. Gates isn't really having a great year either. The only other Charger snub is Mike Scifres. I know, who cares about punters but he's the best one in the NFL today IMO.

As for the Broncos, Clady should have made it. I'm surprised with the way the illogical voting went this year that Bailey didn't make it in.

BTW, Cromartie is a 2nd alternate. Dude should have been a 32nd alternate. The Cromartie and Favre thing says it all.

[Inkana7]

How do you know that he's a 2nd alternate?

[boltaneer]

Favre over Rivers, Brown over Slaton and Peters over Clady is just plain madness.

Ronnie Brown!

Do I get sympathy points in my FF league for him getting voted in? Because he sure didn't do much for me except for week three.

[TheReverend]

Peters blows this season and Joe Thomas just got beat like a ****ing drum by Trent Cole last night.

This is beyond bull****.

Congrats to Brandon and Jay. Though in Jay's case, you should be starting.

[boltaneer]

How do you know that he's a 2nd alternate?

Saw it here: http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2008/dec/16/chargers-gates-dielman-pro-bowl/?chargers

Rivers was named a first alternate for the February game, while kick returner Darren Sproles, cornerback Antonio Cromartie and special teams standout Kassim Osgood were named second alternates.

[Inkana7]

Saw it here: http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2008/dec/16/chargers-gates-dielman-pro-bowl/?chargers

Thanks. I was just wondering if maybe it was from an official source. Maybe Clady's a 2nd alternate?

[Bronco LB 59]

Read this PR nonsense from the Buffalo Bills. Chris Brown sure knows how to polish a turd.


http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-1/peters-returning-to-pro-bowl/3c24831c-9dab-431d-aea7-3d58786f75ee


Peters returning to Pro Bowl

Chris Brown, Lead Journalist

Posted 47 minutes ago

For the second straight year Buffalo’s most talented offensive lineman will be making a trip to Hawaii in February. Left tackle Jason Peters was named to his second consecutive Pro Bowl and will be Buffalo’s only representative on the AFC roster.

It’s the first time a Bills offensive lineman has been named to consecutive Pro Bowls since Ruben Brown, who went to eight consecutive from 1996-2003.

Peters missed the entire offseason and preseason due to a contract dispute in which he chose not to report to the team. The holdout ended just before the regular season, but he did not dress for the first regular season.

Slowly but surely Peters rounded his game back into form as the season wore on and the production in Buffalo’s running game improved as a result. Peters wasn’t the sole reason Buffalo’s ground attack was better, but it certainly didn’t hurt to have their athletic left tackle driving defenders off the ball with regularity.

The fifth-year pro helped Marshawn Lynch eclipse the 1,000-yard plateau this past week against the Jets as Buffalo had its highest rushing output of the season (187 yards). Lynch now ranks fourth in the AFC in rushing.

Since the AFL-NFL merger there have been four other times the Bills have had a lone Pro Bowl representative (1970, 1978, 1979, 1984).

[Beantown Bronco]

Gates isn't really having a great year either.

It's been a down year for TEs all across the board. Even though he's been hurt, he's still been putting up better numbers than anyone else in the AFC not named Gonzo. The only other comparable performer was Dallas Clark, but Gates has 1 more TD than him, so I don't have a problem with this selection.

Given that the probowl doesn't reward blocking TEs, who would you select instead of Gates?

[Peoples Champ]

<!-- / icon and title --> <!-- message --> Favre over Rivers is a joke.

Dielman didn't deserve to be a backup much less a starter. Gates isn't really having a great year either. The only other Charger snub is Mike Scifres. I know, who cares about punters but he's the best one in the NFL today IMO.

As for the Broncos, Clady should have made it. I'm surprised with the way the illogical voting went this year that Bailey didn't make it in.

BTW, Cromartie is a 2nd alternate. Dude should have been a 32nd alternate. The Cromartie and Favre thing says it all.



You are right, Cromartie did get torched by a rookie Eddie Royal. And the TERRIBLE Bronco Defense held farve and the Jets to 17 points, while Brett had 0 TD and 1 INT

[Mediator12]

The AFC DT position selected Haynesworth and Kris Jenkins as starters with Shaun Rodgers the backup. That means guys like Haloti Ngata, Richard Seymour, Vince Woolfork, Jamal Williams, and Casey Hampton are all sitting at home. All are deserving. And, it means John Henderson and Marcus Stroud had huge down years for JAX and BUF.

Dominant DT's are what make a stout Defense. DEN needs one somewhere near that Caliber and right now that player is not on the roster, despite the average play of Robertson and Thomas. Both are OK, But neither are in the league of the above players on their best days. You want a real defense In DEN, Get a real DT to play up front.

[Bronco LB 59]

It sounds like we might not know who the Pro Bowl alternates are until tomorrow.

Adam Zinser of denverbroncos.com

Alternates have not been officially announced yet. I’m sure Head Coach Mike Shanahan will have more to say about Cutler and Marshall tomorrow, and if there’s any news about alternates from the Broncos, he may announce that tomorrow as well. That is what he has typically done.

[boltaneer]

It's been a down year for TEs all across the board. Even though he's been hurt, he's still been putting up better numbers than anyone else in the AFC not named Gonzo. The only other comparable performer was Dallas Clark, but Gates has 1 more TD than him, so I don't have a problem with this selection.

Given that the probowl doesn't reward blocking TEs, who would you select instead of Gates?

No, you're right. Gonzo and Gates were the right choices IMO.

[Bronco LB 59]

It's been a down year for TEs all across the board. Even though he's been hurt, he's still been putting up better numbers than anyone else in the AFC not named Gonzo. The only other comparable performer was Dallas Clark, but Gates has 1 more TD than him, so I don't have a problem with this selection.

Given that the probowl doesn't reward blocking TEs, who would you select instead of Gates?

Owen Daniels had a good season too, but he didn't score TDs.

[BroncoMan4ever]

Montana led the Chiefs to their only AFCG in 3 plus decades........Brady won 3 SB's prior to Moss & Welker arriving. I respectfully disagree that Brady is just an average QB, as I do regarding Joe Montana. Now, I do think that Cassel did walk into a fortunate situation for him--but I certainly think that the Pats are better of with Brady than Cassel.

Jake Plummer led us to our only playoff win and Championship game appearance in a decade, does that nmake him good?

[BroncoMan4ever]

Beyond being a Bronco fan, why?

In the AFC, he's:

#1 in Passer Rating
#1 in TDs thrown
#3 in Yards thrown
#6 in Completion %

And, although SD has been pretty dissappointing, Rivers has had some very gutsy performances.

He easily should be on the AFC squad....

him being a dikwad is what kept players and coaches from voting for him

the pro bowl is a popularity game, and Favre is likable and will go as long as he plays, Jay is a fiery competitor who carried his team all year, gained respect and put up good numbers and Peyton is always getting into the pro bowl for as long as he plays.

maybe if Rivers weren't such an a-hole the league would have looked at his merits instead of his antics.

[Jens1893]

The AFC DT position selected Haynesworth and Kris Jenkins as starters with Shaun Rodgers the backup. That means guys like Haloti Ngata, Richard Seymour, Vince Woolfork, Jamal Williams, and Casey Hampton are all sitting at home. All are deserving. And, it means John Henderson and Marcus Stroud had huge down years for JAX and BUF.

Dominant DT's are what make a stout Defense. DEN needs one somewhere near that Caliber and right now that player is not on the roster, despite the average play of Robertson and Thomas. Both are OK, But neither are in the league of the above players on their best days. You want a real defense In DEN, Get a real DT to play up front.

The very same Kris Jenkins and the very same Shaun Rodgers who were available last offseason and changed employers?

[400HZ]

him being a dikwad is what kept players and coaches from voting for him

the pro bowl is a popularity game, and Favre is likable and will go as long as he plays, Jay is a fiery competitor who carried his team all year, gained respect and put up good numbers and Peyton is always getting into the pro bowl for as long as he plays.

maybe if Rivers weren't such an a-hole the league would have looked at his merits instead of his antics.

You think Jay Cutler and Dre Bly launched a smear campaign against Rivers or something? Rivers isn't going because his team hasn't won very many games. If the Chargers were at 10 wins right now Phillip Rivers would be the first one in. As it is, he's the figurehead of a very disappointing team. You can look at the individual performance of a runningback or linebacker or wide receiver and separate it pretty easily from the overall performance of their team. Not a quarterback.

[Smiling Assassin27]

Rivers has thrown some untimely INT's. His passer rating is good, but those INT's at crucial times may have played into some voters' minds.

[Beantown Bronco]

You think Jay Cutler and Dre Bly launched a smear campaign against Rivers or something?

More likely that it was LT.

[400HZ]

More likely that it was LT.

Maybe. He's screwed Phillip and the rest of team enough times this year that it wouldn't surprise me.

[Mediator12]

The very same Kris Jenkins and the very same Shaun Rodgers who were available last offseason and changed employers?

Do not forget Stroud went to BUF in a Trade as well.

Solid, Game changing DT's allow the rest of the defense to operate as designed. Average DT's with Below Average DE's means the defense can not create the Necessary Balance in the front 7 to play how you wish to play, but must create a scheme that covers this weakness. History has shown that it can not be effective for long until teams start exploiting it in the second half of the season and games.

DEN has not had a game changing DT since Pryce in 2002. The defenses have reflected that.

[oubronco]

The very same Kris Jenkins and the very same Shaun Rodgers who were available last offseason and changed employers?

and could've been had for a 3rd i believe

[BroncoMan4ever]

You think Jay Cutler and Dre Bly launched a smear campaign against Rivers or something? Rivers isn't going because his team hasn't won very many games. If the Chargers were at 10 wins right now Phillip Rivers would be the first one in. As it is, he's the figurehead of a very disappointing team. You can look at the individual performance of a runningback or linebacker or wide receiver and separate it pretty easily from the overall performance of their team. Not a quarterback.

the Raiders are 2-12 right now and Asomughua is going to Hawaii. Drew Brees leads a disappointing Saints team, Tony Ganzales, Kris Dielman, all are players for underachieving or bad teams that went to the pro bowl regardless of the fact their team sucks.

the point i am making is that Rivers has his attitude that pisses people off. He was deserving this season regardless of record, but when the voters(players and coaches) think you're a dick, they are not going vote for you anyway. it had nothing to do with his record this season

[Jens1893]

I disagree, I think Rivers would be in if he was on the Jets. Favre over Rivers is a farce and I hate Philip Rivers as much as some others do on here. The only 2 things Favre has going for him compared to Rivers are a better completion percentage and 9 wins instead of 6. Rivers deserves it way more than Favre. Plain and simple.

And Jay Cutler can be a bit of a dick sometimes also.