View Full Version : Young, Leinart and ... Jackson?????!!??
gyldenlove
12-13-2008, 09:30 AM
NFL.com actually now stopped comparing Cutler to the other 2 and put in Tavaris Jackson. I guess they finaly realized that Cutler is head and shoulders above all the rest of that year.
Carruci story about the 2006 QB class (http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80d41b21&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true)
Link from the front page comparing Leinart, Young and Jackson, no mention of Cutler (http://www.nfl.com/stats/headtohead?player1=JAC566507&player2=LEI453701&player3=YOU617196&player4=null&position=quarterback&playerOne=Tarvaris+Jackson&playerTwo=Matt+Leinart&playerThree=Vince+Young)
Although it is a back asswards way, I think we can consider this final evidence that everybody now accepts that Cutler just is a helluva lot better than the rest of the 2006 class.
Borks147
12-13-2008, 09:31 AM
One is an MVP candidate, the other two aren't starting....hhhhhmmmmmmmm
ColoradoDarin
12-13-2008, 09:59 AM
Whaddya expect from an article quoting Rich Gannon heavily?
Paladin
12-13-2008, 10:06 AM
Don't want Cutler in that article. It was a story about losers......
Jason in LA
12-13-2008, 10:20 AM
So has Mel Kiper finally changed his opinion about who is the best QB of that draft. I remember earlier this season, could have been just before the season started, he said that he still thinks that Young and Lienart will be better, and that Cutler cost the Broncos games last year. Time for him to admit that he was dead wrong.
listopencil
12-13-2008, 10:29 AM
"The only first-round quarterback from the class of '06 starting is Jay Cutler (http://www.nfl.com/players/jaycutler/profile?id=CUT288111), who has led the Broncos to the top of the AFC West and whose 23 touchdown passes rank second in the conference."
Rock Chalk
12-13-2008, 10:55 AM
Haha one of the comments: "GO CUTLER!"
Los Broncos
12-13-2008, 11:28 AM
I remember on that Marshall TD pass last week Gannon said "Cutler made the throw of throws" that might be the best thing he has ever said.
Kaylore
12-13-2008, 11:39 AM
Haha one of the comments: "GO CUTLER!"
That was hilarious.
And JasoninLA brings up a good point. Someone needs to throw some crow at Kiper's plastic head.
Gcver2ver3
12-13-2008, 12:23 PM
One is an MVP candidate, the other two aren't starting....hhhhhmmmmmmmm
he's only an MVP candidate in our minds...
BroncoMan4ever
12-13-2008, 12:27 PM
"The only first-round quarterback from the class of '06 starting is Jay Cutler (http://www.nfl.com/players/jaycutler/profile?id=CUT288111), who has led the Broncos to the top of the AFC West and whose 23 touchdown passes rank second in the conference."
take a closer look at the QB's drafted in 2006. Not only did we get the only good QB in that draft, but we also got the only QB that has been a starter for the majority of his career (minus his first 12 games getting up to speed on the pro game)
all of the others have either been in and out of the starting lineup or been reduced to backups, or been injured too much to make any contribution.
This is the 2006 Draft Class in order of pick.
Young, Leinart, Cutler, Clemens, Jackson, Whitehurst, Croyle. Martin, Jacobs, McNeal, Gradkowski, Shockley
12 QB's drafted and 1 is good.
BroncoMan4ever
12-13-2008, 12:34 PM
he's only an MVP candidate in our minds...
actually Vegas gives him the 3rd best chance of being MVP behind Warner and Peterson.
This quote was taken from the Denver Post
here is the link for the full article
http://www.denverpost.com/sportsheadlines/ci_11200806?source=rss
"Even though the Broncos have a three-game lead in the AFC West with three to go, oddsmakers aren't quite sold. The Broncos are tied with Arizona for the 12th-best odds to win the Super Bowl, at 26-to-1, according to Bodog.com. The favorites are the New York Giants (9-to-4), followed by Pittsburgh (13-to-2), Tennessee (13-to-2) and Carolina (9-to-1). . . .
Cutler has the third-best odds to win the regular-season MVP award, at 15-to-2. Arizona quarterback Kurt Warner and Minnesota running back Adrian Peterson are the co-favorites at 6-to-5"
Gcver2ver3
12-13-2008, 01:15 PM
actually Vegas gives him the 3rd best chance of being MVP behind Warner and Peterson.
This quote was taken from the Denver Post
here is the link for the full article
http://www.denverpost.com/sportsheadlines/ci_11200806?source=rss
that's interesting...i didn't know that...
in the national media he hasn't even gotten a whimper of notice for MVP...at least i haven't seen it...
but that Vegas tidbit is cool to know...
Cito Pelon
12-13-2008, 02:51 PM
take a closer look at the QB's drafted in 2006. Not only did we get the only good QB in that draft, but we also got the only QB that has been a starter for the majority of his career (minus his first 12 games getting up to speed on the pro game)
all of the others have either been in and out of the starting lineup or been reduced to backups, or been injured too much to make any contribution.
This is the 2006 Draft Class in order of pick.
Young, Leinart, Cutler, Clemens, Jackson, Whitehurst, Croyle. Martin, Jacobs, McNeal, Gradkowski, Shockley
12 QB's drafted and 1 is good.
Ouch. Some of those other guys might still redeem themselves.
BettorFan
12-13-2008, 04:00 PM
Never heard anyone speak of Cutler as MVP.
Haroldthebarrel
12-13-2008, 04:18 PM
I don't know if the internet voters have anything to with the mvp voting.
But if they do, and if I was an internet bookie I sure as hell would have wondered about the Redskins and Broncos players voted as player of the weeks and pro bowl votes.
So if we "influence" those votings, we also can take on the MVP voting.
Of course, if fans has no say in the MVP voting, these points would be moot, but it sure as hell would be fun if they had....D)
BroncoMan4ever
12-13-2008, 07:39 PM
Ouch. Some of those other guys might still redeem themselves.
IDK, the only 2 i think could still be productive are Clemens and Jackson, and i am not sold on either.
Punisher
12-13-2008, 08:13 PM
So has Mel Kiper finally changed his opinion about who is the best QB of that draft. I remember earlier this season, could have been just before the season started, he said that he still thinks that Young and Lienart will be better, and that Cutler cost the Broncos games last year. Time for him to admit that he was dead wrong.
Kiper is a ****ing dumbass
BMF Bronco
12-13-2008, 10:15 PM
Never heard anyone speak of Cutler as MVP.
I was thinking the same thing. I havent heard anyone say much about him in the running, but I like the sound of it.
400HZ
12-13-2008, 11:43 PM
NFL.com actually now stopped comparing Cutler to the other 2 and put in Tavaris Jackson. I guess they finaly realized that Cutler is head and shoulders above all the rest of that year.
Carruci story about the 2006 QB class (http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80d41b21&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true)
Link from the front page comparing Leinart, Young and Jackson, no mention of Cutler (http://www.nfl.com/stats/headtohead?player1=JAC566507&player2=LEI453701&player3=YOU617196&player4=null&position=quarterback&playerOne=Tarvaris+Jackson&playerTwo=Matt+Leinart&playerThree=Vince+Young)
Although it is a back asswards way, I think we can consider this final evidence that everybody now accepts that Cutler just is a helluva lot better than the rest of the 2006 class.
Outside of Cutler, most of those guys will have a difficult time finding a spot as a second or third string backup. Man that ended up being a crappy QB class. All that hype surrounding it and the NFL ended up with Cutler and a bunch of replacement level scrubs.
extralife
12-14-2008, 01:02 AM
If Jay didn't lay complete eggs against NE, Miami and Oakland he'd be deserving of MVP. But he did, so he isn't. Then again, no one is really standing out so with a strong finish you never know.
PRBronco
12-14-2008, 01:24 AM
If Jay didn't lay complete eggs against NE, Miami and Oakland he'd be deserving of MVP. But he did, so he isn't. Then again, no one is really standing out so with a strong finish you never know.
Well if you wanna get right down to brass tacks it kinda shows he IS our most valuable, and we're completely ****ed without him playing up to his ability. Laying eggs kills any shots at Offensive Player of the year, of course, but not necessarily MVP.
I was thinking the same thing. I havent heard anyone say much about him in the running, but I like the sound of it.
There hasn't been much hype for him, but if he finishes the last three games off strong he'll have a strong argument.
Its a pretty weak class of MVP candidates though, so its not like Cutler is lighting the world on fire.
He should be a pro-bowler however.