bcs Is A Pathetic Joke

[bombay]

Beyond Florida/Oklahoma, which should be an interesting game, the bcs games pretty much suck. Texas/Ohio st, meh, could be alright -although I don't know how Ohio St jumped Boise, who was ahead of them in the last bcs poll. Alabama/Utah, who cares? USC/Penn St, can't imagine SC doesn't just toy with them. Cincinati/VaTech? At least a half dozen people will watch that one. Especially if Hawaii finishes off Cincy.

bcs is truly pathetic.

[lex]

Beyond Florida/Oklahoma, which should be an interesting game, the bcs games pretty much suck. Texas/Ohio st, meh, could be alright -although I don't know how Ohio St jumped Boise, who was ahead of them in the last bcs poll. Alabama/Utah, who cares? USC/Penn St, can't imagine SC doesn't just toy with them. Cincinati/VaTech? At least a half dozen people will watch that one. Especially if Hawaii finishes off Cincy.

bcs is truly pathetic.

I think the non-BCS conferences (like the ACC, Big East, Big 12, Pac 10, SEC, Big 10) only get one team and since Utah is that team, Boise St is SOL.

[theAPAOps5]

Well OK shouldn't even be playing in the title game. The Big 12 needs to change the tie-breaker so this doesn't happen. Texas is the number 2 team. Oklahoma is going to have an * this season win or lose.

[Doggcow]

Texas should be ahead of Oklahomo. PERIOD. END OF STORY. They beat them on NEUTRAL turf, and lost AWAY at TTU and they get ****ed? Thats ****ing rediculous.

[Play2win]

Oklahoma would kill Texas right now, as would Florida (kill texas)

OK vs. Florida might be one of the greatest College football game anyone has seen in a very long, long time...

[Doggcow]

Oklahoma would kill Texas right now, as would Florida (kill texas)

OK vs. Florida might be one of the greatest College football game anyone has seen in a very long, long time...

And Oklahomo would destroy boise state----- OH WAIT! Texas should be there due to head to head period, they beat Oklahomo, they're better.

[TheChamp24]

It was a 3-way freakin tie, geez. OU has shown they deserve where they are anyways.

[chickennob2]

What I personally would love to see:

BCS Championship Game - Oklahoma vs Florida
Rose Bowl - USC vs Penn State
Sugar Bowl - Alabama vs Texas
Orange Bowl - VaTech vs Cincinnati
Fiesta Bowl - Utah vs Boise State

First two are a given. Bama vs Texas in Nawlins? That would be a great game! Utah vs Boise State, the battle of the unbeatens, in the game that launched Boise State to prominence two seasons ago.

[Play2win]

And Oklahomo would destroy boise state----- OH WAIT! Texas should be there due to head to head period, they beat Oklahomo, they're better.

Who is the better team right NOW. And its not even close.

I bet OK would hang 20 on texas...

I think head to head matters, but really only if it is happening right now... you know in something they call a "Playoff"... ;D

[Play2win]

What I personally would love to see:

BCS Championship Game - Oklahoma vs Florida
Rose Bowl - USC vs Penn State
Sugar Bowl - Alabama vs Texas
Orange Bowl - VaTech vs Cincinnati
Fiesta Bowl - Utah vs Boise State

First two are a given. Bama vs Texas in Nawlins? That would be a great game! Utah vs Boise State, the battle of the unbeatens, in the game that launched Boise State to prominence two seasons ago.

but cincy... for the love of god, they almost lost to Hawaii...

[Jens1893]

I think the non-BCS conferences (like the ACC, Big East, Big 12, Pac 10, SEC, Big 10) only get one team and since Utah is that team, Boise St is SOL.

Non-BCS Conferences could easily get more than one team in the BCS. The Bowls just pick eligible teams and in order to be eligible for an at-large selection you have to win 9 games and be ranked in the top 14 of the BCS.

A team from a non-BCS Conference is guaranteed a BCS berth if it´s ranked in the top 12. If more than one team from a non-BCS Conference is in the top 12, the highest ranked team gets an automatic berth whereas the other are eligible to be selected as an at-large, but the Bowls usually prefer teams from a BCS Conference and therefore the non-BCS teams usually are SOL.

[Jens1893]

but cincy... for the love of god, they almost lost to Hawaii...

Cincy won the Big East and is therefore guaranteed an automatic berth.

[Jens1893]

Beyond Florida/Oklahoma, which should be an interesting game, the bcs games pretty much suck. Texas/Ohio st, meh, could be alright -although I don't know how Ohio St jumped Boise, who was ahead of them in the last bcs poll. Alabama/Utah, who cares? USC/Penn St, can't imagine SC doesn't just toy with them. Cincinati/VaTech? At least a half dozen people will watch that one. Especially if Hawaii finishes off Cincy.

bcs is truly pathetic.

Boise jumping OSU doesn´t matter for the selection of BCS Bowls. Hell, the 4th ranked team in the nation didn´t make it to a BCS Bowl last season. The Bowls just pick the at-large teams out of a pool of all teams that are eligible to be selected as an at-large.

[Rohirrim]

All this year will do is prove, once again, that a playoff system is mandatory and deciding standings by computer is moronic. The computer cannot take into account the possibility of a wild turnover, a fumbled kick off, or all the other myriad calamities that can take place in a game. Until there is a playoff system, the NCAA will always be a joke. Why play any games at all? Decide the entire season based on a computer program. Line up the squads of every team, feed their stats into the computer, and then come up with results for simulated match-ups. Who's to say Boise State wouldn't beat Florida in a playoff game? Or Utah? Or Penn State? Your conjecture is as good as anyone else's (like they say about aholes and opinions, everybody's got one). Who's to say USC couldn't sweep an 8 team playoff? Or Oklahoma? Maybe Alabama makes a comeback in a playoff? We'll never know.

[Kid A]

I was just talking to someone about how Missouri, a team that got rocked by several teams in their own conference, probably could have won the ACC, Big East, and been right in the mix for the Big 10.

I mean, I'm not taking anything away from the seasons that VT and Cincy had, but the BCS obviously is more of a reward for conference champions than a matter of putting all the best teams in the best bowls. You'd have 4-5 teams in the Big XII and several in the SEC that most people would agree are better than a lot of those automatic bids. I love seeing the little guy get in, but at what cost to really good teams that play in brutal conferences?

[lex]

All this year will do is prove, once again, that a playoff system is mandatory and deciding standings by computer is moronic. The computer cannot take into account the possibility of a wild turnover, a fumbled kick off, or all the other myriad calamities that can take place in a game. Until there is a playoff system, the NCAA will always be a joke. Why play any games at all? Decide the entire season based on a computer program. Line up the squads of every team, feed their stats into the computer, and then come up with results for simulated match-ups. Who's to say Boise State wouldn't beat Florida in a playoff game? Or Utah? Or Penn State? Your conjecture is as good as anyone else's (like they say about aholes and opinions, everybody's got one). Who's to say USC couldn't sweep an 8 team playoff? Or Oklahoma? Maybe Alabama makes a comeback in a playoff? We'll never know.


Yeah, or who is to say Utah wouldnt have won the NC in 2004...or Auburn.

[Northman]

Oklahoma would kill Texas right now, as would Florida (kill texas)

OK vs. Florida might be one of the greatest College football game anyone has seen in a very long, long time...


Yea, i was impressed with Texas beating OK earlier in the year but playing OK now might prove to be a different story. As they say, its all about how you play towards the END of the year and i believe Texas's loss came after OU's. It's all about what have you done for me lately.

[DenverBrit]

;D
BCS DECLARES GERMANY WINNER OF WORLD WAR II
US Ranked 4th!!!!

After determining the Big-12 championship game participants the BCS computers were put to work on other major contests and today the BCS declared Germany to be the winner of World War II.

"Germany put together an incredible number of victories beginning with the annexation of Austria and the Sudetenland and continuing on into conference play with defeats of Poland, France, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Belgium and the Netherlands. Their only losses came against the US, UK and Russia; however considering their entire body of work--including an incredibly tough Strength of Schedule--our computers deemed them worthy of the #1 ranking."

Questioned about the #4 ranking of the United States the BCS commissioner stated "The US only had two major victories--Japan and Germany. The computer models, unlike humans, aren't influenced by head-to-head contests--they consider each contest to be only a single, equally-weighted event."

German Chancellor Adolph Hiter said "Yes, we lost to the US; but we defeated #2 ranked France in only 6 weeks." Herr Hitler has been criticized for seeking dramatic victories to earn 'style points' to enhance Germany's rankings. Hitler protested "Our contest with Poland was in doubt until the final day and the conditions in Norway were incredibly challenging and demanded the application of additional forces."

The French ranking has also come under scrutiny. The BCS commented " France had a single loss against Germany and following a preseason #1 ranking they only fell to #2."

Japan was ranked #3 with victories including Manchuria, Borneo and the Philippines.

[lex]

;D
BCS DECLARES GERMANY WINNER OF WORLD WAR II
US Ranked 4th!!!!

After determining the Big-12 championship game participants the BCS computers were put to work on other major contests and today the BCS declared Germany to be the winner of World War II.

"Germany put together an incredible number of victories beginning with the annexation of Austria and the Sudetenland and continuing on into conference play with defeats of Poland, France, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Belgium and the Netherlands. Their only losses came against the US, UK and Russia; however considering their entire body of work--including an incredibly tough Strength of Schedule--our computers deemed them worthy of the #1 ranking."

Questioned about the #4 ranking of the United States the BCS commissioner stated "The US only had two major victories--Japan and Germany. The computer models, unlike humans, aren't influenced by head-to-head contests--they consider each contest to be only a single, equally-weighted event."

German Chancellor Adolph Hiter said "Yes, we lost to the US; but we defeated #2 ranked France in only 6 weeks." Herr Hitler has been criticized for seeking dramatic victories to earn 'style points' to enhance Germany's rankings. Hitler protested "Our contest with Poland was in doubt until the final day and the conditions in Norway were incredibly challenging and demanded the application of additional forces."

The French ranking has also come under scrutiny. The BCS commented " France had a single loss against Germany and following a preseason #1 ranking they only fell to #2."

Japan was ranked #3 with victories including Manchuria, Borneo and the Philippines.

LOL. Did yuo do that? That was classic.

[Rohirrim]

;D
BCS DECLARES GERMANY WINNER OF WORLD WAR II
US Ranked 4th!!!!

After determining the Big-12 championship game participants the BCS computers were put to work on other major contests and today the BCS declared Germany to be the winner of World War II.

"Germany put together an incredible number of victories beginning with the annexation of Austria and the Sudetenland and continuing on into conference play with defeats of Poland, France, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Belgium and the Netherlands. Their only losses came against the US, UK and Russia; however considering their entire body of work--including an incredibly tough Strength of Schedule--our computers deemed them worthy of the #1 ranking."

Questioned about the #4 ranking of the United States the BCS commissioner stated "The US only had two major victories--Japan and Germany. The computer models, unlike humans, aren't influenced by head-to-head contests--they consider each contest to be only a single, equally-weighted event."

German Chancellor Adolph Hiter said "Yes, we lost to the US; but we defeated #2 ranked France in only 6 weeks." Herr Hitler has been criticized for seeking dramatic victories to earn 'style points' to enhance Germany's rankings. Hitler protested "Our contest with Poland was in doubt until the final day and the conditions in Norway were incredibly challenging and demanded the application of additional forces."

The French ranking has also come under scrutiny. The BCS commented " France had a single loss against Germany and following a preseason #1 ranking they only fell to #2."

Japan was ranked #3 with victories including Manchuria, Borneo and the Philippines.

LOL Fantastic. Rep.

[Garcia Bronco]

Do you guys realize that the statistical formula's account for the least amount of the sum? Subjective choice driven polls account for the most. About 66.66 percent.

[Garcia Bronco]

I was just talking to someone about how Missouri, a team that got rocked by several teams in their own conference, probably could have won the ACC, Big East, and been right in the mix for the Big 10.


Maybe they could. While the ACC isn't toughest conference this year, Missouri would have just a tough of time anywhere else. They played inconsistently this year. Last year's team might have gotten it done, but not this years.

[DenverBrit]

LOL. Did yuo do that? That was classic.

Fraid not. It was sent by an old friend (OU Fan) living in Dallas. ;D

[DenverBrit]

Texas should be ahead of Oklahomo. PERIOD. END OF STORY. They beat them on NEUTRAL turf, and lost AWAY at TTU and they get ****ed? Thats ****ing rediculous.

Nah, Texas padded it's schedule with high school teams.
While OU was playing TCU and Cincinnati, Texas was playing patsies.
They also could have easily been been beaten at home by OSU and were way behind in the TT game until they finally lost.
Did Texas stick 60 plus points on TT? or OSU in their house?? Not even close.

Texas is no more deserving than Tech....or Alabama, or Penn state, FL or OU....all one loss teams. Someone had to be left out.

But when it comes to whining, Texas are the National Champs! ;D

[DenverBrit]

Good advice. Ha!


Banner flying over the University of Texas advises Mack to "quit whining"
http://photos.newsok.com/2/showimage/523455/lead620/

[Kid A]

Maybe they could. While the ACC isn't toughest conference this year, Missouri would have just a tough of time anywhere else. They played inconsistently this year. Last year's team might have gotten it done, but not this years.

Mizzou was a weird team this year. When they played Nebraska the killed us partly because we played so awful, but they were also playing some good football. If they had played like that the whole year they would have beaten Kansas and played OU a lot tougher. The loss next week to OSU, though, really threw them off and they never got the mojo back. Definitely got worse as the season wore on, especially defensively.

You could be right, they might not have won the ACC (VT and BC played pretty strong at the end), but I think they could have been right in it given they wouldn't have had any really good offenses to contend with and they can put up a lot of points of their own.

I do think Okie St was as good as anyone in the ACC, maybe the Big Ten. One ugly TT loss, but otherwise they played OU and Texas very tough and beat everyone else convincingly. OSU gets lost in the three-way-tie discussion, but that was a very good football team this year. The 4th place team in the South was clearly better than anyone in the North.

[Play2win]

Cincy won the Big East and is therefore guaranteed an automatic berth.

The premise is flawed...

If Hawaii beat them, should freaking Hawaii have gone to the bowl instead, because you know, they would be the better team, you because they beat them head-to-head, yada, yada, yada...

[Play2win]

All this year will do is prove, once again, that a playoff system is mandatory and deciding standings by computer is moronic. The computer cannot take into account the possibility of a wild turnover, a fumbled kick off, or all the other myriad calamities that can take place in a game. Until there is a playoff system, the NCAA will always be a joke. Why play any games at all? Decide the entire season based on a computer program. Line up the squads of every team, feed their stats into the computer, and then come up with results for simulated match-ups. Who's to say Boise State wouldn't beat Florida in a playoff game? Or Utah? Or Penn State? Your conjecture is as good as anyone else's (like they say about aholes and opinions, everybody's got one). Who's to say USC couldn't sweep an 8 team playoff? Or Oklahoma? Maybe Alabama makes a comeback in a playoff? We'll never know.

I don't know how good they are compare to the top two teams, but they do have THAT DEFENSE...

The X factor would be the speed on that defense. It could possible counter-act alot of what Florida or OK do... But we will never know...

It sure would have been fun to watch if we had BCS PLAYOFFS... oh well...


OK vs FLORIDA is still going to be one heck of a game to watch!! :thumbsup:

[Play2win]

I was just talking to someone about how Missouri, a team that got rocked by several teams in their own conference, probably could have won the ACC, Big East, and been right in the mix for the Big 10.

I mean, I'm not taking anything away from the seasons that VT and Cincy had, but the BCS obviously is more of a reward for conference champions than a matter of putting all the best teams in the best bowls. You'd have 4-5 teams in the Big XII and several in the SEC that most people would agree are better than a lot of those automatic bids. I love seeing the little guy get in, but at what cost to really good teams that play in brutal conferences?

Yeah, really, when we have teams that BARELY beat Hawaii like Cincy, and in the past teams like Illinois, playing in MAJOR Bowls... it hurts the sport...

Along with, you know, NO FREAKING PLAYOFF!!!! ~Popps~

[Jens1893]

The premise is flawed...

If Hawaii beat them, should freaking Hawaii have gone to the bowl instead, because you know, they would be the better team, you because they beat them head-to-head, yada, yada, yada...

Hawaii and Cincy are in different conferences, but the rules are the rules and the Big East Champ is guaranteed an automatic BCS berth. Live with it.

[Play2win]

Yea, i was impressed with Texas beating OK earlier in the year but playing OK now might prove to be a different story. As they say, its all about how you play towards the END of the year and i believe Texas's loss came after OU's. It's all about what have you done for me lately.

Exactly! :thumbsup:

[Play2win]

Hawaii and Cincy are in different conferences, but the rules are the rules and the Big East Champ is guaranteed an automatic BCS berth.

Or maybe I can laugh it off as a complete joke, because the people that design these contests are out of touch, and be happy that we get at least on great game out of this "Post Season"...


OK vs FLORIDA should be outstanding...

[gunns]

And Oklahomo would destroy boise state----- OH WAIT! Texas should be there due to head to head period, they beat Oklahomo, they're better.


Who knows? That's what they said when Boise St played in 2006. The BCS is a bunch of bull and looks to give the money to the big named schools. The fact that Ohio St. jumped Boise St. is a travesty and their schedule wasn't **** either. The good teams (2) they did play they lost to. Right now the only two undefeated teams in college football are Boise St. and Utah. As a Utah fan I would have no problem with Utah playing Boise St. They are consistently better than most of the big name schools.

[SoonerBronco]

And Oklahomo would destroy boise state----- OH WAIT! Texas should be there due to head to head period, they beat Oklahomo, they're better.

Oklahomo? What are you, a 4th grader?

Funny, in a two way tie, head to head is relevant....

a three way tie means three teams beat each other. You forget that Tech Beat Texas, and with this logic, should be playing Ohio State in the Fiesta. Tech fans should be the most pissed of anyone. BTW, that banner picture ealier in this thread was bought and paid for by Texas Tech Alumni.

[ohiobronco2]

Who knows? That's what they said when Boise St played in 2006. The BCS is a bunch of bull and looks to give the money to the big named schools. The fact that Ohio St. jumped Boise St. is a travesty and their schedule wasn't **** either. The good teams (2) they did play they lost to. Right now the only two undefeated teams in college football are Boise St. and Utah. As a Utah fan I would have no problem with Utah playing Boise St. They are consistently better than most of the big name schools.

The real tragedy is that people actually believe that Boise St. automatically deserves the nod over OSU simply because they finished the year undefeated. Their opponents combined record is 64-81. If they want to play the big boys in the post season, they should schedule some of them during the regular season. Say what you want about OSU, they don't duck anybody. Sure their conference has been down in recent years, but they try to make up for it by playing the likes of USC and Texas in the regular season. OSU's opponents BTW had a record of 82-62.

[Jens1893]

The real tragedy is that people actually believe that Boise St. automatically deserves the nod over OSU simply because they finished the year undefeated. Their opponents combined record is 64-81. If they want to play the big boys in the post season, they should schedule some of them during the regular season. Say what you want about OSU, they don't duck anybody. Sure their conference has been down in recent years, but they try to make up for it by playing the likes of USC and Texas in the regular season. OSU's opponents BTW had a record of 82-62.

I believe people are just tired of OSU after their showings in the last 2 BCS Bowls they played in.

The record of Alabama´s regular season opponents is 66-76, btw.

[ohiobronco2]

I believe people are just tired of OSU after their showings in the last 2 BCS Bowls they played in.

The record of Alabama´s regular season opponents is 66-76, btw.

Jens, trust me, nobody is more tired of the poor showings than us OSU fans.;D It's not a perfect system, as a matter of fact it is terrible. OSU is going to have their hands full, Texas will want to prove to the rest of the country that it belongs in the national championship game, so you know OSU will get their best. We may be in line for another BCS massacre, but I don't think that Boise would be any better, simply because they are undefeated.

[DenverBrit]

Oklahomo? What are you, a 4th grader?



Eventually. ;D

[Jens1893]

Jens, trust me, nobody is more tired of the poor showings than us OSU fans.;D It's not a perfect system, as a matter of fact it is terrible. OSU is going to have their hands full, Texas will want to prove to the rest of the country that it belongs in the national championship game, so you know OSU will get their best. We may be in line for another BCS massacre, but I don't think that Boise would be any better, simply because they are undefeated.

Texas will either come out all guns blazing because they are pissed and because they believe they should have had a chance to play for it all (not to mention that there might be a small chance the title could be split) or they´ll come out flat because they are disappointed.

I don´t know if BSU is better than OSU or if they are more deserving and quite honestly I don´t even care. Last season´s BCS selections showed me how things worked and the Bowls care about TV ratings, butts in the seats and appeasing cronies more than the actual game that´s taking place, so it was pretty clear to me that BSU had no chance getting selected over a school with the fanbase of OSU. It´s the way things work and I guess we´ll have to live with it.

[ohiobronco2]

Texas will either come out all guns blazing because they are pissed and because they believe they should have had a chance to play for it all (not to mention that there might be a small chance the title could be split) or they´ll come out flat because they are disappointed.

I don´t know if BSU is better than OSU or if they are more deserving and quite honestly I don´t even care. Last season´s BCS selections showed me how things worked and the Bowls care about TV ratings, butts in the seats and appeasing cronies more than the actual game that´s taking place, so it was pretty clear to me that BSU had no chance getting selected over a school with the fanbase of OSU. It´s the way things work and I guess we´ll have to live with it.

Unfortunately, you are 100% correct.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Good advice. Ha!


Banner flying over the University of Texas advises Mack to "quit whining"
http://photos.newsok.com/2/showimage/523455/lead620/

LOL

classic

[epicSocialism4tw]

I don´t know if BSU is better than OSU or if they are more deserving and quite honestly I don´t even care. Last season´s BCS selections showed me how things worked and the Bowls care about TV ratings, butts in the seats and appeasing cronies more than the actual game that´s taking place, so it was pretty clear to me that BSU had no chance getting selected over a school with the fanbase of OSU. It´s the way things work and I guess we´ll have to live with it.

This is true.

Now that the media has given up on trying to get it changed, there will be increasingly less opposition to what is purely a system based on rewarding the good ol' boys. The "Bowl Championship Series" allows them to choose which teams they want in the "playoffs". Has there ever been another sport so rigged (even the NBA isnt that obvious about it)?

Boise State and Utah are both excellent football programs and deserving of a legitimate shot at a national title. They will have to go the route of adding top DI schools from the major conferences to their schedule to have a better shot at getting in. Unfortunately for them, nobody will want to play them. Its too risky for most to consider.

[DBroncos4life]

Why do you people feel that Texas should go over a team they lost too but won't agree that OU should go over Texas? The BCS F'd up it should be Texas vs OU for the NC and TTU should be playing Florida who lost to a much lesser team then any of the B12 teams. Texas, OU and TTU all lost to a top 5team and Florida lost to a unranked team.

[Garcia Bronco]

Why do you people feel that Texas should go over a team they lost too but won't agree that OU should go over Texas? The BCS F'd up it should be Texas vs OU for the NC and TTU should be playing Florida who lost to a much lesser team then any of the B12 teams. Texas, OU and TTU all lost to a top 5team and Florida lost to a unranked team.

You can't blast the system and then use the system to qualify acceptance over a team taht was beat by an unranked team. I think we have an excellent NCS game putting the two best teams in country settling it on the field. It's too bad TT and UT can't be in it as well. They had excellent seasons and are just as deserving, IMO. But it is what it is. Even in an 8 team playoff with conference champs Texas and TT would not be involved.

[DBroncos4life]

You can't blast the system and then use the system to qualify acceptance over a team taht was beat by an unranked team. I think we have an excellent NCS game putting the two best teams in country settling it on the field. It's too bad TT and UT can't be in it as well. They had excellent seasons and are just as deserving, IMO. But it is what it is. Even in an 8 team playoff with conference champs Texas and TT would not be involved.

If you get points for beating ranked teams then you should lose points for losing games that you should win. (Maybe set it losing to a top five is worth x amount and so on) Maybe they do it that way with the strength of schedule but I just feel that Florida shouldn't be in it.

[stugotsII]

Beyond Florida/Oklahoma, which should be an interesting game, the bcs games pretty much suck. Texas/Ohio st, meh, could be alright -although I don't know how Ohio St jumped Boise, who was ahead of them in the last bcs poll. Alabama/Utah, who cares? USC/Penn St, can't imagine SC doesn't just toy with them. Cincinati/VaTech? At least a half dozen people will watch that one. Especially if Hawaii finishes off Cincy.

bcs is truly pathetic.

Can someone please give college football playoffs already?

Imagine if the NFL adopted a bowl system? Mass hysteria would break out.

[Garcia Bronco]

I think what you guys need to understand is the college bowls are for the students and alumni. Not for you. :P