Obama voters well informed? Hmm..

[barryr]

Must have asked questions of Obama supporters in these forums.

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.cfm?ID=1642


Also, a documentary is out about how little Obama supporters knew, well, anything.

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/223033.html

[frerottenextelway]

Zogby is a hack.

<a href='http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/11/zogby-engages-in-apparent-push-polling.html'>Zogby Engages in Apparent Push Polling for Right-Wing Website</a>
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<p>The conservative website <a href="http://howobamagotelected.com/">HowObamaGotElected.com</a> reports that it has commissioned <a href="http://www.zogby.com/">Zogby International</a> to conduct a poll of 512 Barack Obama voters as part of what can best be described as a viral marketing effort to discredit the intelligence of Obama supporters.<br /><br />The website, created by former radio talk show host <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ziegler_%28talk_show_host%29#Controversies">John Ziegler</a> to promote a forthcoming documentary, features a YouTube clip of interviews with 12 Obama voters who "were chosen for their apparent intelligence/verbal abilities and willingness to express their opinions to a large audience". The clip portrays the Obama supporters as giving "incorrect" answers to political questions such as "which candidate said his policies would likely bankrupt the coal industry and make energy rates skyrocket". Of the 12 Obama supporters interviewed for the clip, 7 (58%) are black; nationwide, about 23% of Obama supporters were black according to the <a href="http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#USP00p1">national exit poll</a>.<br /><br />In connection with the YouTube clip, Ziegler describes that he "also commissioned a Zogby telephone poll which asked the very same questions (as well as a few others) with similarly amazing results." Partial results of the survey from among 512 Obama voters are reported on the website. It is not clear if voters for non-Obama candidates were screened out by the survey, or Ziegler has chosen not to report their results.<br /><br />Most of the questions on the survey take the form of a multiple choice political knowledge test, stating a "fact" to the respondent and asking them which of the four major candidates (Obama, McCain, Biden, Palin) the statement applies to. Questions include the following:<br /><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">"Which of the four [candidates] said his policies would likely bankrupt the coal industry and make energy rates skyrocket?"</span><br /><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">"Which of the four [candidates] started his political career at the home of two former members of the Weather Underground?"</span><br /><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">"Which of the four [candidates] quit a previous campaign because of plagiarism?"</span><br /><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">"Which of the four [candidates] won his first election by getting opponents kicked off the ballot?"</span><br /><br />As should be obvious, the veracity of several of these claims is -- at best -- debatable, yet they are apparently represented as factual to the respondent. It is not clear whether the respondent is informed of the "correct" response after having had the question posed to him.<br /><br />Not all of the items in the poll are intended to apply to Obama or Biden. Several apply to Sarah Palin, although the items about Palin, while probably unflattering ("which of the four [candidates] has a pregnant teenage daughter?") are nevertheless apparently true. The exception is a "twist" question about Palin in which the respondent is asked "which candidate said that they can see Russia from their house?". Ziegler claims in the video that none of the four answers is correct because the statement was made by Tina Fay rather than Sarah Palin. (In her interview with Charlie Gibson, Palin said that "you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska", not that she can see Russia from her house.)<br /><br />To my mind, this survey meets the definition of a "push poll", which the <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/push+poll&amp;">Random House Dictionary</a> defines as "a seemingly unbiased telephone survey that is actually conducted by supporters of a particular candidate and disseminates negative information about an opponent." That (i) several of the items on the survey contain information which, in addition to being negative, is arguably also untrue; (ii) Ziegler brags that the survey includes a trick question to which no correct answer can be provided, and that (iii) apparently only Obama voters were targeted by the survey (although this is not 100 percent clear), also inform my opinion that the survey can fairly be described as a "push poll".<br /><br />In an item on his <a href="http://www.johnziegler.com/">personal website</a> dated today, 11/18, Ziegler claims that Zogby will officially release the results of the survey tomorrow. Ziegler also appeared on Fox's Hannity &amp; Colmes news program yesterday (11/17) to promote his documentary, on which clips from the YouTube video were shown.<br /><br />Why Zogby International has decided to accept this client and conduct a survey in this fashion is not clear. I would hope, however, that any and all clients that need legitimate polling work conducted would take their business elsewhere. These clients include C-SPAN and Reuters, two organizations with longstanding and well-deserved reputations for accuracy and neutrality; contact information for C-SPAN and Reuters can be found at their respective webpages.</span></p>

[Crushaholic]

I thought this tidbit was funny...:rofl:

When asked which candidate said they could "see Russia from their house," 87% chose Palin, although the quote actually is attributed to Saturday Night Live's Tina Fey during her portrayal of Palin during the campaign

Who knew Saturday Night Live would ever be relevant, again?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Must have asked questions of Obama supporters in these forums.

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.cfm?ID=1642


Also, a documentary is out about how little Obama supporters knew, well, anything.

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/223033.html

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/41/7a/963f224b9da0b62a8697c010._AA240_.L.jpg

[theAPAOps5]

Loser

[peacepipe]

Must have asked questions of Obama supporters in these forums.

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.cfm?ID=1642


Also, a documentary is out about how little Obama supporters knew, well, anything.

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/223033.htmlGet over it,your boy lost. Nothing will change that.

[Drek]

Nice to see Zogby's true colors showing. H-A-C-K.

[Spider]

The inside of my truck smells like Vanilla

[stugotsII]

The inside of my truck smells like Vanilla

Vanilla, and Wendy's wrappers.

By the way, how did tonights attempt at under age solicitation go?

[stugotsII]

I'm sure that a documentary could be made about uninformed McCain voters as well, however this is untra disturbing.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

By the way, how did tonights attempt at under age solicitation go?

That would be your area of expertise...

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=26393&highlight=idea+family+values

[stugotsII]

That would be your area of expertise...

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=26393&highlight=idea+family+values

???

You actually don't get it. Spider admittedly hit on fast food employees on the road.

[Spider]

Vanilla, and Wendy's wrappers.

By the way, how did tonights attempt at under age solicitation go?

LOL . this comming from someone that pussed out , then when I was far away he jumps bad ......... Dude , just so you know I forward those pm's ........ the word clown got used alot , specially the part where you wanted to meet at your work ........ I dont think McDonalds would enjoy that much ........but alot of people find it funny you kept your pie hole shut when I was Near Columbus .....

[Spider]

???

You actually don't get it. Spider admittedly hit on fast food employees on the road.

LOL ... Lying wont get you far http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=2127988&postcount=72
but you dont have anything else in your bag ....... Just another little coward on the net actin big ........

[Dudeskey]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2250/2422091678_cb7bacb29b.jpg

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

:laugh:

[shakenbake]

I don't think either party has an exclusivity on ignorance

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I don't think either party has an exclusivity on ignorance

But yours accounts for a good 90%.

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/EPH/7762~You-Can-t-Fix-Stupid-Posters.jpg

[watermock]

Basically, despite the presense of the internet and press of every distinction, most Americans are not educated to think logically in a prima faci sense. They see consequences instead of inherent flaws.

Ignorance is the best weapon to manipulate the masses.

No LABF, you can't fix stupid, but you can educate in a manner that forces student how to think rationally and logically.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

• "Put The Off Button On."
• "Our Priorities Is Our Faith."
• "It's Your Money. You Paid For It."
• "I Think War Is A Dangerous Place."
• "I Don't Need To Be Subliminabable."
• "I'm A Follower Of American Politics."
• "I Think We Agree- The Past Is Over."
• "I'm The Master Of Low Expectations."
• "For NASA, Space Is Still A High Priority." http://www.plattbridger.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/glasses.gif
• "They Have Miscalculated Me As A Leader."
• "I Am A Pitbull On The Pantleg Of Opportunity."
• "This Foreign Policy Stuff Is A Little Frustrating."
• "I Understand Small Business Growth. I Was One."
• "Welcome To Mrs. Bush And My Fellow Astronauts."
• "The French Don't Have A Word For 'Entrepreneur'."
• "It's Clearly A Budget. It's Got A Lot Of Numbers In It"
• "Will The Highways On The Internet Become More Few?"
• "We Need An Energy Bill That Encourages Consumption."
• "In My Sentences I Go Where No Man Has Gone Before."
• "I Am A Person Who Recognises The Fallacy Of Humans."
• "Rarely Is The Question Asked: Is Our Children Learning?"
• "Sometimes When I Sleep At Night I Think Of 'Hop On Pop'."
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• "The Indians And The Paki's Should Learn To Live In Peace."
• "I Know How Hard It Is For You To Put Food On Your Family."
• "We Are Ready For Any Unforeseen Event That May Not Occur"
• "I Hope You Leave Here And Walk Out And Say, 'What Did He Say?'"
• "Families Is Where Our Nation Finds Hope, Where Wings Take Dream."
• "It's A World Of Madmen And Uncertainty And Potential Mental Losses."
• "We're Going To Have The Best Educated American People In The World"
• "Low Voter Turnout Is An Indication Of Fewer People Going To The Polls."
• "Sure, I Know About Europe. I've Seen The TV Shows. I'm A Fan, Definite."
• "The Most Important Job Is Not To Be Governor, Or First Lady In My Case."
• ''I Had No Idea We Had So Many Weapons ... What Do We Need Them For?''
• "A Dictatorship Would Be A Hell Of A Lot Easier, There's No Question About It."
• "If Affirmative Action Means What I Just Described What I'm For, Then I'm For It."
• "We're Concerned About AIDS Inside Our White House- Make No Mistake About It." http://www.plattbridger.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/glasses.gif
• "It's No Exaggeration To Say That The Undecideds Could Go One Way Or Another."
• "The Point Is, This Is A Way To Help Inoculate Me About What Has Come And Is Coming."
• "One Of The Great Things About Books Is, Sometimes There Are Some Fantastic Pictures."
• "A Surplus Means There'll Be Money Left Over. Otherwise, It Wouldn't Be Called A Surplus."
• "Like You, I Have Been Disgraced About What I've Seen On TV That Took Place In Prison."
• "I Wish I Wasn't The War President. Who In The Heck Wants To Be A War President? I Don't."
• "We Cannot Let Terriers And Rogue Nations Hold This Nation Hostile Or Hold Our Allies Hostile.''
• "I Mentioned Early On That I Recognise There Are Hurdles, And We're Going To Achieve Those Hurdles."
• "I'm Honored To Shake The Hand Of A Brave Iraqi Citizen Who Had His Hand Cut Off By Saddam Hussein."
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• "Our Enemies Are Innovative And Resourceful - And So Are We. They Never Stop Thinking About New Ways To Harm Our Country And Our People - And Neither Do We."
• "I Do Not Believe We Have Put A Guilty- I Mean Innocent- Person To Death In The State Of Texas." http://www.plattbridger.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/glasses.gif
• "God Loves You, And I Love You. And You Can Count On Both Of Us As A Powerful Message That People Who Wonder About Their Future Can Hear."
• "It Is Clear Our Nation Is Reliant Upon Big Foreign Oil. More And More Of Our Imports Are Coming From Overseas."
• "They Said This Issue Wouldn't Resignate With The People. They've Been Proved Wrong, It Does Resignate."
• "We're Going To Have A White House Forum There In Washington, D.C., Obviously- That's Where The White House Is ..."
• "First, Let Me Make It Very Clear, Poor People Aren't Necessarily Killers. Just Because You Happen To Be Not Rich Doesn't Mean You're Willing To Kill."
• "We Spent A Lot Of Time Talking About Africa, As We Should. Africa Is A Nation That Suffers From Incredible Disease."
• "For Every Fatal Shooting, There Were Roughly Three Non-Fatal Shootings. And, Folks, This Is Unacceptable In America. It's Just Unacceptable. And We're Going To Do Something About It."
• "Natural Gas Is Hemispheric. I Like To Call It Hemispheric In Nature Because It Is A Product That We Can Find In Our Neighbourhoods."
• "We Ended The Rule Of One Of History's Worst Tyrants, And In So Doing, We Not Only Freed The American People, We Made Our Own People More Secure."
• "I Want To Thank The Astronauts Who Are With Us, The Courageous Spacial Entrepreneurs Who Set Such A Wonderful Example For The Young Of Our Country."
• "This Is Preservation Month. I Appreciate Preservation. It's What You Do When You Run For President. You Gotta Preserve."
• "The War On Terror Involves Saddam Hussein Because Of The Nature Of Saddam Hussein, The History Of Saddam Hussein, And His Willingness To Terrorise Himself."
• "States Should Have The Right To Enact Reasonable Laws And Restrictions Particularly To End The Inhumane Practice Of Ending A Life That Otherwise Could Live."
• "Mr. Vice President, In All Due Respect, It Is- I'm Not Sure 80% Of The People Get The Death Tax. I Know This: 100% Will Get It If I'm The President." http://www.plattbridger.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/glasses.gif
• "I've Been Talking To Vincente Fox, The President Of Mexico... I Know Him.. To Have Gas And Oil Sent To Us... So We'll Not Depend On Foreign Oil."
• "I Have Said That The Sanction Regime [On Iraq] Is Like Swiss Cheese, That Meant That They Weren't Very Effective."
• "This Campaign Not only Hears The Voices Of the Entrepreneurs And The Farmers And The Entrepreneurs, We Hear The Voices Of Those Struggling To Get Heard."
• "Actually, I-This Might Sound A Little West Texan To You, But I Like It. When I'm Talking About- When I'm Talking About Myself, And When He's Talking About Myself, All Of Us Are Talking About Me."
• "It's Important For Us To Explain To Our Nation That Life Is Important. It's Not Only Life Of Babies, But It's Life Of Children Living In, You Know, The Dark Dungeons Of The Internet."
• "Well, I Think If You Know What You Believe, It Makes It A Lot Easier To Answer Questions: I Cant Answer Your Question."
• "We Have A Firm Commitment To NATO, We Are A Part Of NATO. We Have A Firm Commitment To Europe. We Are A Part Of Europe." http://www.plattbridger.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/glasses.gif
• "The Fundamental Question Is, 'Will I Be A Successful President When It Comes To Foreign Policy?' I Will Be, But Until I'm The President, It's Going To Be Hard For Me To Verify That I Think I'll Be More Effective."
• "More Muslims Have Died At The Hands Of Killers Than — I Say More Muslims — A Lot Of Muslims Have Died — I Don't Know The Exact Count — At Istanbul. Look At These Different Places Around The World Where There's Been Tremendous Death And Destruction Because Killers Kill."
• "You Know, Let Me Talk About Al-Qaeda Just For A Second. I Made The Statement That We're Dismantling Senior Management, And We Are. Our People Have Done A Really Good Job Of Hauling In A Lot Of The Key Operators. Khalid Shaikh Mohammed. Abu Zubaida. Ramzi-Ramzi Alshibh Or Whatever That Guy's Name Was."
• "The Recession Started Upon My Arrival. It Could Have Been — Some Say February, Some Say March, Some Speculate Maybe Earlier It Started — But Nevertheless, It Happened As We Showed Up Here. The Attacks On Our Country Affected Our Economy. Corporate Scandals Affected The Confidence Of People And Therefore Affected The Economy. My Decision On Iraq, This Kind Of March To War, Affected The Economy."
• "The March To War Affected The People's Confidence. It's Hard To Make Investment. See, If You're A Small Business Owner Or A Large Business Owner And You're Thinking About Investing, You've Got To Be Optimistic When You Invest. Except When You're Marching To War, It's Not A Very Optimistic Thought, Is It? In Other Words, It's The Opposite Of Optimistic When You're Thinking You're Going To War."
• "We Will Make Sure Our Troops Have All That Is Necessary To Complete Their Missions. That's Why I Went To The Congress Last September And Proposed Fundamental — Supplemental Funding, Which Is Money For Armor And Body Parts And Ammunition And Fuel."
"Public Speaking Is Very Easy"
http://www.plattbridger.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/bushbook.jpg (http://www.toostupidtobepresident.com/)

[stugotsII]

LOL . this comming from someone that pussed out , then when I was far away he jumps bad ......... Dude , just so you know I forward those pm's ........ the word clown got used alot , specially the part where you wanted to meet at your work ........ I dont think McDonalds would enjoy that much ........but alot of people find it funny you kept your pie hole shut when I was Near Columbus .....

Didn't you say you wanted to meet me at a truck stop?

If you knew where I worked my friend, you would know why I said that.

You have my contact info...

Use it.

[stugotsII]

LOL . this comming from someone that pussed out , then when I was far away he jumps bad ......... Dude , just so you know I forward those pm's ........ the word clown got used alot , specially the part where you wanted to meet at your work ........ I dont think McDonalds would enjoy that much ........but alot of people find it funny you kept your pie hole shut when I was Near Columbus .....

PS. What does "jumps bad" mean?

I honestly want to know. I've asked you a million times...

I ask because like most things you type, it makes no sense.

[stugotsII]

• "Put The Off Button On."
• "Our Priorities Is Our Faith."
• "It's Your Money. You Paid For It."
• "I Think War Is A Dangerous Place."
• "I Don't Need To Be Subliminabable."
• "I'm A Follower Of American Politics."
• "I Think We Agree- The Past Is Over."
• "I'm The Master Of Low Expectations."
• "For NASA, Space Is Still A High Priority." http://www.plattbridger.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/glasses.gif
• "They Have Miscalculated Me As A Leader."
• "I Am A Pitbull On The Pantleg Of Opportunity."
• "This Foreign Policy Stuff Is A Little Frustrating."
• "I Understand Small Business Growth. I Was One."
• "Welcome To Mrs. Bush And My Fellow Astronauts."
• "The French Don't Have A Word For 'Entrepreneur'."
• "It's Clearly A Budget. It's Got A Lot Of Numbers In It"
• "Will The Highways On The Internet Become More Few?"
• "We Need An Energy Bill That Encourages Consumption."
• "In My Sentences I Go Where No Man Has Gone Before."
• "I Am A Person Who Recognises The Fallacy Of Humans."
• "Rarely Is The Question Asked: Is Our Children Learning?"
• "Sometimes When I Sleep At Night I Think Of 'Hop On Pop'."
"• Iran Would Be Dangerous If They Have A Nuclear Weapon."
http://www.plattbridger.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/bushthink.jpg (http://www.toostupidtobepresident.com/)• "I Know The Human Being And Fish Can Coexist Peacefully."
• "The Indians And The Paki's Should Learn To Live In Peace."
• "I Know How Hard It Is For You To Put Food On Your Family."
• "We Are Ready For Any Unforeseen Event That May Not Occur"
• "I Hope You Leave Here And Walk Out And Say, 'What Did He Say?'"
• "Families Is Where Our Nation Finds Hope, Where Wings Take Dream."
• "It's A World Of Madmen And Uncertainty And Potential Mental Losses."
• "We're Going To Have The Best Educated American People In The World"
• "Low Voter Turnout Is An Indication Of Fewer People Going To The Polls."
• "Sure, I Know About Europe. I've Seen The TV Shows. I'm A Fan, Definite."
• "The Most Important Job Is Not To Be Governor, Or First Lady In My Case."
• ''I Had No Idea We Had So Many Weapons ... What Do We Need Them For?''
• "A Dictatorship Would Be A Hell Of A Lot Easier, There's No Question About It."
• "If Affirmative Action Means What I Just Described What I'm For, Then I'm For It."
• "We're Concerned About AIDS Inside Our White House- Make No Mistake About It." http://www.plattbridger.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/glasses.gif
• "It's No Exaggeration To Say That The Undecideds Could Go One Way Or Another."
• "The Point Is, This Is A Way To Help Inoculate Me About What Has Come And Is Coming."
• "One Of The Great Things About Books Is, Sometimes There Are Some Fantastic Pictures."
• "A Surplus Means There'll Be Money Left Over. Otherwise, It Wouldn't Be Called A Surplus."
• "Like You, I Have Been Disgraced About What I've Seen On TV That Took Place In Prison."
• "I Wish I Wasn't The War President. Who In The Heck Wants To Be A War President? I Don't."
• "We Cannot Let Terriers And Rogue Nations Hold This Nation Hostile Or Hold Our Allies Hostile.''
• "I Mentioned Early On That I Recognise There Are Hurdles, And We're Going To Achieve Those Hurdles."
• "I'm Honored To Shake The Hand Of A Brave Iraqi Citizen Who Had His Hand Cut Off By Saddam Hussein."
• "Let Me Put It To You Bluntly. In A Changing World, We Want More People To Have Control Over Your Own Life."
http://www.plattbridger.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/georgewpope2.jpg (http://www.toostupidtobepresident.com/)
• "Our Enemies Are Innovative And Resourceful - And So Are We. They Never Stop Thinking About New Ways To Harm Our Country And Our People - And Neither Do We."
• "I Do Not Believe We Have Put A Guilty- I Mean Innocent- Person To Death In The State Of Texas." http://www.plattbridger.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/glasses.gif
• "God Loves You, And I Love You. And You Can Count On Both Of Us As A Powerful Message That People Who Wonder About Their Future Can Hear."
• "It Is Clear Our Nation Is Reliant Upon Big Foreign Oil. More And More Of Our Imports Are Coming From Overseas."
• "They Said This Issue Wouldn't Resignate With The People. They've Been Proved Wrong, It Does Resignate."
• "We're Going To Have A White House Forum There In Washington, D.C., Obviously- That's Where The White House Is ..."
• "First, Let Me Make It Very Clear, Poor People Aren't Necessarily Killers. Just Because You Happen To Be Not Rich Doesn't Mean You're Willing To Kill."
• "We Spent A Lot Of Time Talking About Africa, As We Should. Africa Is A Nation That Suffers From Incredible Disease."
• "For Every Fatal Shooting, There Were Roughly Three Non-Fatal Shootings. And, Folks, This Is Unacceptable In America. It's Just Unacceptable. And We're Going To Do Something About It."
• "Natural Gas Is Hemispheric. I Like To Call It Hemispheric In Nature Because It Is A Product That We Can Find In Our Neighbourhoods."
• "We Ended The Rule Of One Of History's Worst Tyrants, And In So Doing, We Not Only Freed The American People, We Made Our Own People More Secure."
• "I Want To Thank The Astronauts Who Are With Us, The Courageous Spacial Entrepreneurs Who Set Such A Wonderful Example For The Young Of Our Country."
• "This Is Preservation Month. I Appreciate Preservation. It's What You Do When You Run For President. You Gotta Preserve."
• "The War On Terror Involves Saddam Hussein Because Of The Nature Of Saddam Hussein, The History Of Saddam Hussein, And His Willingness To Terrorise Himself."
• "States Should Have The Right To Enact Reasonable Laws And Restrictions Particularly To End The Inhumane Practice Of Ending A Life That Otherwise Could Live."
• "Mr. Vice President, In All Due Respect, It Is- I'm Not Sure 80% Of The People Get The Death Tax. I Know This: 100% Will Get It If I'm The President." http://www.plattbridger.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/glasses.gif
• "I've Been Talking To Vincente Fox, The President Of Mexico... I Know Him.. To Have Gas And Oil Sent To Us... So We'll Not Depend On Foreign Oil."
• "I Have Said That The Sanction Regime [On Iraq] Is Like Swiss Cheese, That Meant That They Weren't Very Effective."
• "This Campaign Not only Hears The Voices Of the Entrepreneurs And The Farmers And The Entrepreneurs, We Hear The Voices Of Those Struggling To Get Heard."
• "Actually, I-This Might Sound A Little West Texan To You, But I Like It. When I'm Talking About- When I'm Talking About Myself, And When He's Talking About Myself, All Of Us Are Talking About Me."
• "It's Important For Us To Explain To Our Nation That Life Is Important. It's Not Only Life Of Babies, But It's Life Of Children Living In, You Know, The Dark Dungeons Of The Internet."
• "Well, I Think If You Know What You Believe, It Makes It A Lot Easier To Answer Questions: I Cant Answer Your Question."
• "We Have A Firm Commitment To NATO, We Are A Part Of NATO. We Have A Firm Commitment To Europe. We Are A Part Of Europe." http://www.plattbridger.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/glasses.gif
• "The Fundamental Question Is, 'Will I Be A Successful President When It Comes To Foreign Policy?' I Will Be, But Until I'm The President, It's Going To Be Hard For Me To Verify That I Think I'll Be More Effective."
• "More Muslims Have Died At The Hands Of Killers Than — I Say More Muslims — A Lot Of Muslims Have Died — I Don't Know The Exact Count — At Istanbul. Look At These Different Places Around The World Where There's Been Tremendous Death And Destruction Because Killers Kill."
• "You Know, Let Me Talk About Al-Qaeda Just For A Second. I Made The Statement That We're Dismantling Senior Management, And We Are. Our People Have Done A Really Good Job Of Hauling In A Lot Of The Key Operators. Khalid Shaikh Mohammed. Abu Zubaida. Ramzi-Ramzi Alshibh Or Whatever That Guy's Name Was."
• "The Recession Started Upon My Arrival. It Could Have Been — Some Say February, Some Say March, Some Speculate Maybe Earlier It Started — But Nevertheless, It Happened As We Showed Up Here. The Attacks On Our Country Affected Our Economy. Corporate Scandals Affected The Confidence Of People And Therefore Affected The Economy. My Decision On Iraq, This Kind Of March To War, Affected The Economy."
• "The March To War Affected The People's Confidence. It's Hard To Make Investment. See, If You're A Small Business Owner Or A Large Business Owner And You're Thinking About Investing, You've Got To Be Optimistic When You Invest. Except When You're Marching To War, It's Not A Very Optimistic Thought, Is It? In Other Words, It's The Opposite Of Optimistic When You're Thinking You're Going To War."
• "We Will Make Sure Our Troops Have All That Is Necessary To Complete Their Missions. That's Why I Went To The Congress Last September And Proposed Fundamental — Supplemental Funding, Which Is Money For Armor And Body Parts And Ammunition And Fuel."
"Public Speaking Is Very Easy"
http://www.plattbridger.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/bushbook.jpg (http://www.toostupidtobepresident.com/)

Soooo, what does this have to do with the OP?

[stugotsII]

LOL ... Lying wont get you far http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=2127988&postcount=72
but you dont have anything else in your bag ....... Just another little coward on the net actin big ........

The post you quoted is a great indicator of the type of dirtbag you really are.

[Spider]

Didn't you say you wanted to meet me at a truck stop?

If you knew where I worked my friend, you would know why I said that.

You have my contact info...

Use it.

LOL still doesnt explain why you shut your pie hole when I was close by ...... But anyhoo ....I doubt you do work ,you lie so much ........ but yeah as soon as I can i will be through Columbus again ........

[Spider]

PS. What does "jumps bad" mean?

I honestly want to know. I've asked you a million times...

I ask because like most things you type, it makes no sense.

LOL too stupid to use google ? Google urban dictionary genius

[watermock]

Highjacked.

What does LABF's spam have to do about the thread?

[Spider]

The post you quoted is a great indicator of the type of dirtbag you really are.

LOL it shows that you are a liar .......Cant believe a damn word you say .........

[stugotsII]

LOL still doesnt explain why you shut your pie hole when I was close by ...... But anyhoo ....I doubt you do work ,you lie so much ........ but yeah as soon as I can i will be through Columbus again ........

You weren't close by. You were 296 miles away.

Unlike you, I have a wife to consider. You may have a wife, but from the sound of it, you don't consider her much.

Use the contact info I gave you when you are in Columbus and I'll make sure I'm standing face to face with you.

[stugotsII]

LOL too stupid to use google ? Google urban dictionary genius

The only thing I found was this picture with your name on it.

http://www.ahoffman.com/humor/images/Redneck.jpg

Were you trying to call another Burger King cashier?

[Spider]

You weren't close by. You were 296 miles away. For a trucker that is close by , and when i got to Columbus , you wimp, you was nowhere to be found on line ....... Poosy

Unlike you, I have a wife to consider. You may have a wife, but from the sound of it, you don't consider her much. and I am sure your wife is a nice guy .........

Use the contact info I gave you when you are in Columbus and I'll make sure I'm standing face to face with you.Yeah , you been busted in a few lies already , now all of the sudden you are telling the truth ....... sure thing , I will call , but I doubt your punk ass will show .....you jumped bad, i tried to get the info when I was close , your punk ass went off and Hid , now you jump bad again ......

[Spider]

The only thing I found was this picture with your name on it.


Were you trying to call another Burger King cashier?

LOl cant spell jump bad ? or is google that hard for you

[stugotsII]

For a trucker that is close by , and when i got to Columbus , you wimp, you was nowhere to be found on line ....... Poosy

and I am sure your wife is a nice guy .........

Yeah , you been busted in a few lies already , now all of the sudden you are telling the truth ....... sure thing , I will call , but I doubt your punk ass will show .....you jumped bad, i tried to get the info when I was close , your punk ass went off and Hid , now you jump bad again ......

Sorry, I don't have a GPS tracking system entitled "douche bag" for you. I don't live on this website. I have a great family, great friends and a great job...

You on the other hand have a cold truck and McDonalds fry cooks to gaulk at. No wonder you're on here all the time.

PS. I'd have more trouble re-arranging my sock drawer than I would with you...

PPS. My wife is the kinduv girl you think of when your trying to get your 2 inch dick up for your fat, unshaven beast of a wife.

PPPS. Have fun tonight shivering yourself to sleep after whacking off with a cheeseburger wrapper in your truck.

[Spider]

Sorry, I don't have a GPS tracking system entitled "douche bag" for you. I don't live on this website. I have a great family, great friends and a great job...

You on the other hand have a cold truck and McDonalds fry cooks to gaulk at. No wonder you're on here all the time.

PS. I'd have more trouble re-arranging my sock drawer than I would with you...

PPS. My wife is the kinduv girl you think of when your trying to get your 2 inch dick up for your fat, unshaven beast of a wife.

PPPS. Have fun tonight shivering yourself to sleep after whacking off with a cheeseburger wrapper in your truck.

LOL that still doesnt explain why you didnt give me your contact info when I told you i would make it a point to swing through Columbus ..... you was online long enough to argue with me , could have done it then .......Lies and excuses .......

[Spider]

Fat wife ? :rofl: you are an idiot .........

[stugotsII]

Fat wife ? :rofl: you are an idiot .........

Sorry...

Your fat UGLY wife.

[stugotsII]

LOL that still doesnt explain why you didnt give me your contact info when I told you i would make it a point to swing through Columbus ..... you was online long enough to argue with me , could have done it then .......Lies and excuses .......

You have it now...

Use it.

[Spider]

You have it now...

Use it.

LOL yeah now that i am in back in wyoming ..tough guy ..i wonder why you didnt step up back then ?
I will use it .........

[Spider]

Sorry...

Your fat UGLY wife.

I am sure youres is still a nice guy despite you being a coward ......i wonder what he sees in you ?

[stugotsII]

LOL yeah now that i am in back in wyoming ..tough guy ..i wonder why you didnt step up back then ?
I will use it .........

Do you look as dumb as you are?

You were 296 miles away. I'm not driving nearly 600 miles to get into a 3 minute fight with some fat trucker from Wyoming.

[Spider]

Do you look as dumb as you are?

You were 296 miles away. I'm not driving nearly 600 miles to get into a 3 minute fight with some fat trucker from Wyoming.

LOL I guess the part that I would swing through Columbus was too tough for you grasp genius ....... you didnt have to drive Einstein..

[stugotsII]

LOL I guess the part that I would swing through Columbus was too tough for you grasp genius ....... you didnt have to drive Einstein..

You actually never said that. What you said was that you WERE in Columbus.

No mention of coming back through...

Anyway...

Have fun sticking your dick in a jar of cold mayo tonight!

[Spider]

You actually never said that. What you said was that you WERE in Columbus.

No mention of coming back through...

Anyway...

Have fun sticking your dick in a jar of cold mayo tonight!
you have a serious problem with the truth dont you ?
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Where are you right now?
flying J truckstop wytheville VA

It's not worth the 296 mile drive.
then shut the Fúck up about it ....... I was in Columbus a few days ago give me your # I will make it a point to look you up when I go back through ........... you want some I will give you some ...... Just step up tough guy

[stugotsII]

I am sure youres is still a nice guy despite you being a coward ......i wonder what he sees in you ?

Just so you know...my wife is the one on the right...

[Spider]

LOL stu busted in another lie ........ I doubt he even has a wife , or a job

[stugotsII]

you have a serious problem with the truth dont you ?
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Where are you right now?
flying J truckstop wytheville VA

It's not worth the 296 mile drive.
then shut the Fúck up about it ....... I was in Columbus a few days ago give me your # I will make it a point to look you up when I go back through ........... you want some I will give you some ...... Just step up tough guy

...and that is why you now have my contact info...for when you "go back through."

[Spider]

Just so you know...my wife is the one on the right...

On the right of what ?

[Spider]

...and that is why you now have my contact info...for when you "go back through."

LOL you lying sack of **** , I told you ....here wait , your number will get exposed , but since you insist on lying , you leave me no choice .......
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/private.php?do=showpm&pmid=378850

[stugotsII]

On the right of what ?

God you're dumb.

[theAPAOps5]

LOL you lying sack of **** , I told you ....here wait , your number will get exposed , but since you insist on lying , you leave me no choice .......
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/private.php?do=showpm&pmid=378850

Wow his number is:

Invalid Private Message specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator

Man that is one long ****ing number to memorize.

[Spider]

you didnt post that # until a week and a half later , you lying piece of ****

[stugotsII]

you didnt post that # until a week and a half later , you lying piece of ****

Sorry, but my life doesn't revolve around a loser truck driver from Wyoming.

You have it now...so like I said....use it.

[Spider]

Wow his number is:

Invalid Private Message specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator

Man that is one long ****ing number to memorize.

;D too bad , he didnt post his Number until a week and half later ......

[stugotsII]

Wow his number is:

Invalid Private Message specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator

Man that is one long ****ing number to memorize.

Yup, that's my number....it's in Hebrew.

[stugotsII]

;D too bad , he didnt post his Number until a week and half later ......

Keep grinning "Spider"

I'm gonna enjoy scrapping that smirk right off your fat face.

[Spider]

Sorry, but my life doesn't revolve around a loser truck driver from Wyoming.

You have it now...so like I said....use it.

LOL so yo usay now , you jumped bad in a pm , then tried to hide from it , Lied , I will use your # , but I doubt it is valid .....

[Spider]

Keep grinning "Spider"

I'm gonna enjoy scrapping that smirk right off your fat face.

LOL let me guess you will wait a week and half later after I call to do it right ....

[stugotsII]

LOL so yo usay now , you jumped bad in a pm , then tried to hide from it , Lied , I will use your # , but I doubt it is valid .....

I'm sure you have a phone handy...

My phone is always on...just like your wifes vibrator.

[Spider]

I'm sure you have a phone handy...

My phone is always on...just like your wifes vibrator.
Yeah .........I wont use my phone to call you , you idiot , been there done that before , Pay phone from Columbus will do ........

[stugotsII]

Yeah .........I wont use my phone to call you , you idiot , been there done that before , Pay phone from Columbus will do ........

Just trying to prove my number is legit...

Still waiting for that call.

[Needa Pass Rush]

What are you BAMF's quarralin' about? ???

[Spider]

Just trying to prove my number is legit...

Still waiting for that call.

I will find out soon enough ........patience is a virtue....

[stugotsII]

What are you BAMF's quarralin' about? ???

Ummm,

I don't remember.

[Spider]

What are you BAMF's quarralin' about? ???

he jumped bad in a PM ....... when I was out there i asked for his info , he wouldnt give it , Now all of the sudden he is tough guy again

[Odysseus]

Loser

I wonder if that is Hotrod posting? :approve:

[Needa Pass Rush]

Let there be peace. :peace:

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[Spider]

Let there be peace. :peace:



;D I am at peace ........... just another mother ****er i got to deal with .......no worries

[cutthemdown]

I'm sure you have a phone handy...

My phone is always on...just like your wifes vibrator.

You will probably get banned for this just so you know. At least I know Blueflame would come and ban me for it. Funny thing was I was arguing with Spider when it happened as well.

[cutthemdown]

This thread sucks without pictures

[Spider]

who are those guys ?

[Spider]

This thread sucks without pictures

not my fault , you guys cant attack me and bring my wife into it ........

[Needa Pass Rush]

who are those guys ?


Nickelback, jack.

[Spider]

Nickleback, jack.

;D never heard of them before , but they seem pretty good

[Needa Pass Rush]

;D never heard of them before , but they seem pretty good


You probably know this tune of theirs.

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[JCMElway]

Here's an interview that Nate Silver did with the pollster John Ziegler. Hilarious stuff!

Link: http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

An Interview with John Ziegler on the Zogby "Push Poll"

I had the chance this afternoon to speak with John Ziegler, a documentary filmmaker and former radio talk show host who built the website HowObamaGotElected.com and is promoting a forthcoming documentary of the same name.

Ziegler was responsible for commissioning a Zogby International survey of Barack Obama supporters, which took the form of a multiple choice political knowledge test, stating a "fact" to the respondent and asking them which of the four major candidates (Obama, McCain, Biden, Palin) the statement applied to. Because I believe that many of the statements on the survey are questionable or false but are misleadingly presented as factual to the respondent, I characterized the survey as a "push poll" in an article posted early this morning.

Ziegler had contacted me by e-mail, asking if I'd like to interview him; the interview itself was conducted by telephone. Ziegler asked, among other conditions, that I post a full transcript of the interview, which I have. The transcript below is intended to be representative as possible from my shorthand transcript, with the exception of two or three rapid-fire ad-hominem exchanges being edited out. The transcript, however, is not safe for work.

Nate Silver [NS]: Were only Obama supporters interviewed for the [Zogby] survey, or was everyone interviewed?
John Ziegler [JZ]: The reason why I interviewed Obama supporters only is because I’m doing a documentary on the media coverage of the campaign and how the media coverage of the campaign impacted what Obama supporters knew or thought they knew about the campaign. I had planned from day one because I knew that no one would take seriously any random sampling of interviewees that I was going to commission a scientific poll of these questions. I also knew that it would be a lot cheaper for me to do a nationwide survey of Obama voters than the nation as a whole because basically I’d only have to do half the number of people to get a representative sample. When I went on FOX last night, I made a deal that if anyone on the left -- you're more than willing to take me up on this -- wants to ask the exact same deal of the McCain supporters and you get examples that are equal to or worse than the Obama supporters, then I’ll pay for your expense. The point here was not to show that Obama supporters were idiots -- there are plenty of idiots on both sides of the aisle -- but what information they got from the media that they were able to consume.

NS: Do you stand by all the statements in the survey as being unambiguously true?
JZ: I stand one hundred percent by the notion that there is absolutely zero ambiguity as to what the right answer is to any of the questions. With the one exception of the Palin-Russia-Alaska question which we asked the way we did for a very specific purpose which was to try and gauge the Tina Fey Effect which I think we did in a very effective manner which was what was actually said by Tina Fey, everyone attributed to Sarah Plain. But for purposes of scoring Obama supporters’ answers we counted Palin as a correct response.

NS: What was the right answer to that [Palin] question?
JZ: The technically accurate question [sic] is that none of the four people said that, but we counted it as correct if they said Sarah Palin.

NS: Why would you commission a survey question with no correct response?
JZ: The purpose of the question, you pinhead, was we wanted to determine the Tina Fey Effect.

NS: Were the interviews conducted by telephone or online?
JZ: How can you ask a question like that and pretend that you have any clue what you're writing about! That's unbelievable that someone could write what you did! That is unbelievable that you wouldn't know that it's a telephone or an online poll and that you went on my summaries of the questions before the questions were even released!

NS: We’ve heard reports from our readers that very similar questions had been asked in an online format. There was no online component at all?
JZ: That is correct, which you would have known if you had looked at the information. Before you called this a push poll -- you don't seem to know the definition of a push poll. How do you have this website?

NS: Is the complete interview available anywhere -- complete results for the interview?
JZ: Yeah if you had done your research it is all online, every question, all the cross-tabs. Man, you're never going to post this [transcript], are you?

NS: Were the respondents informed of the 'correct' response during the telephone interviews?
JZ: No.

NS: Did Zogby have a chance to preview the questions before agreeing to accept your business?
JZ: John Zogby himself or the company?

NS: Either/Or.
JZ: I am quite certain that if I asked a question they deemed inappropriate they would have not allowed the question to be asked.

NS: What questions were removed from the survey?
JZ: We didn't remove any, we edited some.

NS: What questions were edited?
JZ: Nothing was substantially edited but there was some wording on some that we went over with them. For instance, I think I had inadvertently said “See Russia from my home” instead of “See Russia from my house”. There was a distinction about Obama talking about energy prices versus electricity prices so we corrected that. That’s all that I can recollect.

NS: What did Zogby charge you -- what did you pay for this survey?
JZ: I'm not going to tell you that, I'm not a ****ing idiot.

NS: Did he charge you at his usual rates or did he ask you for extra?
JZ: You'll have to ask them. I'm not going to respond how much money I paid for this. It was substantial but I’m not going to say anything more than that.

NS: In the Youtube video, how were the Obama supporters identified for the Youtube video?
JZ: I had nothing to do with it. I had a person who was working with me who happens to be a black female since you seem to think I’m a racist who was the one that chose all of the respondents based on conversations we’d had prior, people who were well-spoken, thought they were informed, willing to come on camera and [who] voted for Barack Obama.

NS: What was the location of the polling place where the interviews were conducted?
JZ: They were both in Los Angeles.

NS: Okay, that's what I kind of guessed. How many Obama supporters did you speak with in total?
JZ: All twelve we spoke with are in the video.

NS: Was there any significance to the fact that in the YouTube video, seven of the twelve Obama supporters were black?
JZ: [Laughs]. The reason why we had more black supporters – that might surprise some of the people that we spoke to -- if we go by your apparent ability to determine race -- the first location happened to be in a black section of town and we were able to get our interviews faster there because of they way that was set up, because of the logistics. We had a second location but it got dark and we didn't have any lights. So, that's it, it was no grand racial conspiracy.

NS: How did you represent yourself to John Zogby?
JZ: As private company, Death-of-Free-Speech-dot-inc which is the name of a book that I wrote.

NS: Did Zogby give you sign-off on the press release that he released on his website?
JZ: I'm not sure what you mean by sign-off. The press release I had input into, yes.

NS: Did you have financing for the project or was it paid for out of pocket?
JZ: It is not self-financed.

NS: Who paid for it?
JZ: You think I'm going to tell you that? When you've already shown yourself to be the enemy?

NS: Was it paid for by the RNC?
JZ: [Laughs]. In your world, the question that I would ask you is what question [in the survey] is there any ambiguity as to what the answer is?

NS: Well, that Obama 'launched his career' at the home of two former members of the Weather Underground --
JZ: That happens to be one of the questions that Obama supporters did the best on! They did better on that question than on any other Obama-related answers! And here you’re telling me that it’s not true?

NS: What do you mean by "launched his career"?
JZ: The first campaign as told by the person whose position he took in the State Senate, as told by her admission, his first campaign event was in the home of Bill Ayers and his wife. [Laughs] Unless you live in the Obama kool-aid world! That is astonishing to me that you would not accept that! And by the way, when you're given four responses to that question, what else was the response going to be? Sarah Palin?

NS: Well, her husband was a member of a secessionist party.
JZ: You are such a hack! That's a very good analogy.

NS: Do you think that certain types of voters are less well informed?
JZ: I think anyone that looks rationally at these poll results would have to conclude that Obama voters are incredibly poorly informed about major issues that occurred during the campaign -- my guess is because McCain voters got their information from different types of media than Obama voters did.

NS: What types of media would you consider credible?
JZ: I think you need a variety of sources, but I do not accept the notion that if it's not in the New York Times it's not true and if it is in the New York Times it is. Just because Sean Hannity says something doesn't mean it’s not true.

NS: What is Barack Obama’s religion?
JZ: You'll have to ask him. But I do know that he never claimed to be a Christian until he met Reverend Wright. And I do believe -- and I’ve never held this against him -- that it would have been highly unlikely for him not to have been registered as a Muslim as a child in Indonsesia but who cares. He did change his website based on that reality –- he was far more ambiguous about that issue on Fight The Smears. I’m an agnostic so I couldn't care less what his religion is. I just care that he lied about it.

NS: When do you think Obama was a Muslim?
JZ: I think he was likely -- registered as a Muslim between the ages of 6 and 10 while he was going to school in Indonesia. It would have been highly unusual for him not to be.

NS: But would you personally consider Obama a Muslim?
JZ: No, because he was a child. We're talking about two totally different things. There's what religion you're born into and there's what religion you become because of your own decisions

NS: Would you consider Obama a Christian?
JZ: You'd have to ask him. There was never any evidence that he was a Christian until he decided to join the church of a racist hate-monger for political purposes.

NS: Would you not believe Barack Obama if he told you he was a Christian?
JZ: Does he believe that Jesus Christ was the son of God who died and was raised from the dead later?

NS: Do you think he’s a believer in Jesus Christ?
JZ: I have no way of knowing that. I don't think there's any evidence that he is, either.

NS: Do you have doubts about Barack Obama's birth certificate?
JZ: I couldn’t care less about that. I accept he was born in Hawaii.

NS: Would you consider yourself well-informed
JZ: I’d consider myself extremely well-informed.

NS: Who are the two senators from South Dakota
JZ: Thune and, uh, Johnson.

NS: Very good. South Carolina?
JZ: Go **** yourself. I'm done with this interview if you're going to ask me stupid questions like that. Obviously I know who Lindsay Graham is.

NS: Well, since you’re running a website calling people misinformed, I’d like to see if -- there are certain things you’ve said that I would consider misinformed.
JZ: Misinformed? You're a piece of work! You are never going to have the guts to post a representative transcript on your website! I thought you actually ran a legitimate website!

NS: Thank you, have a good day.
JZ: Go **** yourself.

[Odysseus]

Eric Schmidt is part of Obama's economic advisory committee. I would have to assume on some level he is an Obama supporter. He's a pretty smart guy and is pretty aggressive and smart business leader that Google went out to recruit.

http://www.google.com/corporate/execs.html#eric

You don't have to be a genius to understand you need to support a smart guy who is connecting with the best and brightest in our nation to fix some very complicated and brutal financial problems.

Look up some of his speeches instead of digging up these idiot links. Try to think. I know it hurts but in the end you might learn something. He is a very exciting business free market innovator.

[TDmvp]

O god please , not Pickle Sack . those guys are just terrible .
They are to Music , what Van Gogh was to Audiology health .

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Soooo, what does this have to do with the OP?

It was a response to this:

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=2171856&postcount=17

[cutthemdown]

not my fault , you guys cant attack me and bring my wife into it ........

Not me man I only think insults about peoples wives and then laugh on the inside, but I don't share them with the board anymore because I don't want to get banned!!!!!!Hilarious!

[TailgateNut]

PPS. My wife is the kinduv girl you think of when your trying to get your 2 inch dick up for your fat, unshaven beast of a wife.

.


Needing a vacation???

Family IS OFF LIMITS!

[Northman]

???

You actually don't get it. Spider admittedly hit on fast food employees on the road.

Yea, but doesnt your mom work there? ;D

[Needa Pass Rush]

In this video which rabbit is Spider and which one is StugotsII? I am obviously the large...errr... rooster. ;)

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[barryr]

I thought Siper(or is it Spider?), whatever, hit on those toothless hookers, oh well. Maybe Obama plans to give prostitutes a health plan and a 401k.

[Spider]

I thought Siper(or is it Spider?), whatever, hit on those toothless hookers, oh well. Maybe Obama plans to give prostitutes a health plan and a 401k.

Thinking and you ? :rofl: if you say so

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Maybe Obama plans to give prostitutes a health plan and a 401k.

Maybe you'll get lucky and whores for the GOP and corporate special interest sock puppets will be covered.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Just so you know...my wife is the one on the right...
Wow dude...I don't really give a crap about this stupid pissing match between the two of you, so this is not an editorial about whose side I'm on...but here's some VERY good advice; if that IS in fact a pix of your actual wife...that's not very smart posting her pix on the web.

I'm married to a woman who makes Hale Berry look plain by comparison...a flat out show stopper...and I would NEVER post her pix on the web, especially on a site like this that's frequented by all kinds of nutjobs looking for reasons to get angry over something as idiotic as a football game...or in this case...something even dumber than that.

If I'm not mistaken some wacko tried to burn down a dudes house a year or so ago over the same kind of juvenile thing going on here...

Just some food for thought...

[TailgateNut]

Wow dude...I don't really give a crap about this stupid pissing match between the two of you, so this is not an editorial about whose side I'm on...but here's some VERY good advice; if that IS in fact a pix of your actual wife...that's not very smart posting her pix on the web.

I'm married to a woman who makes Hale Berry look plain by comparison...a flat out show stopper...and I would NEVER post her pix on the web, especially on a site like this that's frequented by all kinds of nutjobs looking for reasons to get angry over something as idiotic as a football game...or in this case...something even dumber than that.

If I'm not mistaken some wacko tried to burn down a dudes house a year or so ago over the same kind of juvenile thing going on here...

Just some food for thought...


No one ever said or thought that he was the brightest bulb in the room.

[footstepsfrom#27]

No one ever said or thought that he was the brightest bulb in the room.
OK but still...this place is loaded with photoshop hacks and porn addicts...I'd think this would be pretty much self explanatory wouldn't it? ???

[TailgateNut]

OK but still...this place is loaded with photoshop hacks and porn addicts...I'd think this would be pretty much self explanatory wouldn't it? ???


I'm not disagreeing with you. I was just as "flabbergasted" to see his post/pix as you probably were.

[footstepsfrom#27]

I'm not disagreeing with you. I was just as "flabbergasted" to see his post/pix as you probably were.
Right...I'm always VERY leery of posting anything revealing anything of a highly personal identification nature on any internet site, especially one where the mental stability element is questionable. A few years ago some dude hacked into my account on a blog and sent me an email death threat...weird. Once something's on the web you have no idea whose doing what with it.

On another note though...he kind of boxed himself in with this...I mean it's more or less a choice of admitting to stupidity or dishonesty at this point...I think I'd pick dishonesty, but that's just me.

[Smiling Assassin27]

Zogby looks like a moron. Funding was there for a poll of McCain voters and Zogby pulled the plug. What a chump. Consider that Zogby's a Democrat, and it becomes more curious that he didn't jump at the chance to poll the Repubs. Maybe he did a small sample and didn't like what he was finding in terms of their knowledge in relation to Obama voters?

Pollster John Zogby has rejected a conservative commentator’s offer to sponsor a poll to test the knowledge of people who voted for John McCain.

The commentator was proposing to mirror a poll of Obama voters that caused a political uproar when it suggested that Obama supporters didn’t know what they were voting for.

John Ziegler, a Burbank-based documentary filmmaker, had commissioned the poll of 512 Obama voters. The results delighted the right and inflamed the left, drawing widespread coverage on the Web, cable news and radio.

Zogby International said in its summary of the results: “Just 2 percent of voters who supported Barack Obama on Election Day obtained perfect or near-perfect scores on a post-election test which gauged their knowledge of statements and scandals associated with the presidential tickets during the campaign, a new Zogby International telephone poll shows.”

Ziegler posted the results and a video of Obama voter interviews at HowObamaGotElected.com.