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HEAV
11-09-2008, 09:19 AM
The Broncos have a dilemma with the Class of 2006.

They know what they have. Now they have to figure out how much they’re willing to spend to keep the group together.

“Fortunately for me, I don’t have to have the answer to it,” team owner Pat Bowlen said. “I sign the checks but I don’t have to put the formula together on how we do it.”

That will be up to coach Mike Shanahan, pro personnel head Jim Goodman, assistant general manager Jeff Goodman and others.

Four of the team’s ’06 standouts are signed through next season: Brandon Marshall, Elvis Dumervil, Tony Scheffler and Chris Kuper. All originally signed four-year deals. Quarterback Jay Cutler’s deal runs through 2011.

“That’s a lot of ability to deal with ... But I think we’re worth it to keep us together,” Dumervil said. “We all came in together, and I think we’re the core of the team. You don’t want to lose that.”

Keeping the group together is a priority for Cutler, who is set to receive considerable roster bonuses in 2010 ($4 million) and 2011 ($12 million).

“It means a lot to me. And if it means me pushing back some stuff, I’ll wait and, hopefully, we can get Brandon and ‘Kupe’ signed, and also Tony and E.D. But we’ve got a group, offensively, I’d love to see stay together for a while.”

Long-term deals for Marshall and Dumervil might be the most difficult to close.

Marshall has had some missteps off the field, and the club will want to be protected contractually. At the same time, the receiver has emerged as one of the league’s best at his position and will command hefty money.

Dumervil has been among the league leaders in sacks the past two-plus seasons, which is a skill that commands big bucks. But Dumervil’s body type won’t fit every system. And the Broncos might, in the long term, look for him to be a pass-rush specialist, which might affect the type of contract they’re willing to offer.


http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/nov/08/how-keep-class-06-together/

lex
11-09-2008, 09:23 AM
The Broncos have a dilemma with the Class of 2006.

They know what they have. Now they have to figure out how much they’re willing to spend to keep the group together.

“Fortunately for me, I don’t have to have the answer to it,” team owner Pat Bowlen said. “I sign the checks but I don’t have to put the formula together on how we do it.”

That will be up to coach Mike Shanahan, pro personnel head Jim Goodman, assistant general manager Jeff Goodman and others.

Four of the team’s ’06 standouts are signed through next season: Brandon Marshall, Elvis Dumervil, Tony Scheffler and Chris Kuper. All originally signed four-year deals. Quarterback Jay Cutler’s deal runs through 2011.

“That’s a lot of ability to deal with ... But I think we’re worth it to keep us together,” Dumervil said. “We all came in together, and I think we’re the core of the team. You don’t want to lose that.”

Keeping the group together is a priority for Cutler, who is set to receive considerable roster bonuses in 2010 ($4 million) and 2011 ($12 million).

“It means a lot to me. And if it means me pushing back some stuff, I’ll wait and, hopefully, we can get Brandon and ‘Kupe’ signed, and also Tony and E.D. But we’ve got a group, offensively, I’d love to see stay together for a while.”

Long-term deals for Marshall and Dumervil might be the most difficult to close.

Marshall has had some missteps off the field, and the club will want to be protected contractually. At the same time, the receiver has emerged as one of the league’s best at his position and will command hefty money.

Dumervil has been among the league leaders in sacks the past two-plus seasons, which is a skill that commands big bucks. But Dumervil’s body type won’t fit every system. And the Broncos might, in the long term, look for him to be a pass-rush specialist, which might affect the type of contract they’re willing to offer.


http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/nov/08/how-keep-class-06-together/

I think we should sign Suggs or Peppers and if we do, we should trade Doom. If Doom is such a liability in the run that it prevents Moss from getting on the field because that would mean both are liabilities, then one of them is expendable and since Doom would get more in trade value, its something we should really look at. Plus, I like what Ive been seeing from Moss lately.

Hercules Rockefeller
11-09-2008, 09:26 AM
I think we should sign Suggs or Peppers and if we do, we should trade Doom. If Doom is such a liability in the run that it prevents Moss from getting on the field because that would mean both are liabilities, then one of them is expendable and since Doom would get more in trade value, its something we should really look at. Plus, I like what Ive been seeing from Moss lately.

I wouldn't be heartbroken either if they find a taker for Dumervil this offeason. Just never been a huge fan of his.

bpc
11-09-2008, 09:29 AM
The Broncos have a dilemma with the Class of 2006.

They know what they have. Now they have to figure out how much they’re willing to spend to keep the group together.

“Fortunately for me, I don’t have to have the answer to it,” team owner Pat Bowlen said. “I sign the checks but I don’t have to put the formula together on how we do it.”

That will be up to coach Mike Shanahan, pro personnel head Jim Goodman, assistant general manager Jeff Goodman and others.

Four of the team’s ’06 standouts are signed through next season: Brandon Marshall, Elvis Dumervil, Tony Scheffler and Chris Kuper. All originally signed four-year deals. Quarterback Jay Cutler’s deal runs through 2011.

“That’s a lot of ability to deal with ... But I think we’re worth it to keep us together,” Dumervil said. “We all came in together, and I think we’re the core of the team. You don’t want to lose that.”

Keeping the group together is a priority for Cutler, who is set to receive considerable roster bonuses in 2010 ($4 million) and 2011 ($12 million).

“It means a lot to me. And if it means me pushing back some stuff, I’ll wait and, hopefully, we can get Brandon and ‘Kupe’ signed, and also Tony and E.D. But we’ve got a group, offensively, I’d love to see stay together for a while.”
Long-term deals for Marshall and Dumervil might be the most difficult to close.

Marshall has had some missteps off the field, and the club will want to be protected contractually. At the same time, the receiver has emerged as one of the league’s best at his position and will command hefty money.

Dumervil has been among the league leaders in sacks the past two-plus seasons, which is a skill that commands big bucks. But Dumervil’s body type won’t fit every system. And the Broncos might, in the long term, look for him to be a pass-rush specialist, which might affect the type of contract they’re willing to offer.


http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/nov/08/how-keep-class-06-together/

I frickin love Jay. He gets "it".

I'll push back money to get people under the cap. Elway got that part of the business too... the less money he took despite still getting paid well could then go into the pockets of other players we might need to turn this team into possible super bowl contenders.

tsiguy96
11-09-2008, 09:30 AM
marshall, cutler, scheffler and royal need to retire as broncos... almost everyone else is expendable.

lex
11-09-2008, 09:34 AM
marshall, cutler, scheffler and royal need to retire as broncos... almost everyone else is expendable.

I also like what Kuper has given us, especially for where he was drafted. He's been a solid player. You need guys like that too. As long as he's not crazy expensive, I think they should try to keep him as well. I think keeping guys like him would be cheaper and more beneficial than trying to replace him with FAs.

Br0nc0Buster
11-09-2008, 09:40 AM
I think we should sign Suggs or Peppers and if we do, we should trade Doom. If Doom is such a liability in the run that it prevents Moss from getting on the field because that would mean both are liabilities, then one of them is expendable and since Doom would get more in trade value, its something we should really look at. Plus, I like what Ive been seeing from Moss lately.

Why not just start Moss at RE and bring in Doom for passing downs?

And when Doom comes in move Moss over to LE

montrose
11-09-2008, 10:20 AM
Cutler - Under contract for years, won't be let go unless he struggles.

Scheffler - Plays TE which is an inexpensive position. Combine that with the fact he's not a starter, has an injury history and a good rapport with Cutler - and he shouldn't be a tough one at all.

Marshall - Toughest one, he'll require a huge deal this offseason. No other way around it.

Dumervil - Has shown pass-rush ability which is valuable around the league but he's a liability against the run and hasn't even garnered much a pass-rush this year. He's not worth a big contract at all. I'd wait until he's a RFA and tender him at a 1st and 3rd and pray someone matches. Moss is already playing at a higher level and getting better while Dumervil is regressing. Assuming no one will, pickup the tender and then move him at the trade deadline in 2010 for a mid-round pick.

Kuper - Get him done now as guards come cheaper before they hit the market and can drive up their price.

TonyR
11-09-2008, 11:08 AM
Agree with the sentiments that Cutler, Marshall and Kuper must be kept, and Scheffler and Dumervil should only be kept at the right price.

NFLBRONCO
11-09-2008, 11:32 AM
Cutler Marshall longterm
Tony S Maybe it would be yes if he wasn't so injury prone
Elvis Dumerville NO I know DE is a touchy subject but, he hasn't dominated enough imo to longterm him for big $$$.

Atlas
11-09-2008, 11:51 AM
Sing Kupper and Scheffler. Than offer what you can to Marshall. If he decides to test FA, you then you go and sign Doomervile and the best Available FA WR.

rovolution
11-09-2008, 11:56 AM
Sing Kupper and Scheffler. Than offer what you can to Marshall. If he decides to test FA, you then you go and sign Doomervile and the best Available FA WR.

letting Marshall even sniff FA would be one of Shanahans greatest blunders, and thats saying something

Hercules Rockefeller
11-09-2008, 12:21 PM
All the threads about how Denver can't draft/develop WRs, then they find a true #1 and now they're supposed to let him test the market?

BroncoMan4ever
11-09-2008, 02:35 PM
Cutler - Under contract for years, won't be let go unless he struggles.

Scheffler - Plays TE which is an inexpensive position. Combine that with the fact he's not a starter, has an injury history and a good rapport with Cutler - and he shouldn't be a tough one at all.

Marshall - Toughest one, he'll require a huge deal this offseason. No other way around it.

Dumervil - Has shown pass-rush ability which is valuable around the league but he's a liability against the run and hasn't even garnered much a pass-rush this year. He's not worth a big contract at all. I'd wait until he's a RFA and tender him at a 1st and 3rd and pray someone matches. Moss is already playing at a higher level and getting better while Dumervil is regressing. Assuming no one will, pickup the tender and then move him at the trade deadline in 2010 for a mid-round pick.

Kuper - Get him done now as guards come cheaper before they hit the market and can drive up their price.

I am sorry but i disagree with that. Doom is not getting sacks this season because he bagan the year with an injured hand, also, the reason Moss looks better rushing the passer is because he is on the opposite side of Doom in one on ones because Doom is commanding double teams. I think it would be better to trade Moss and keep Doom. if we are going to keep one pass rush specialist who is a liability against the run, I would rather keep the proven one.

Inkana7
11-09-2008, 02:38 PM
Doom has looked good the past 3 weeks. Not many sacks, but good pressure. He's beating his guys.

BroncoMan4ever
11-09-2008, 02:42 PM
Sing Kupper and Scheffler. Than offer what you can to Marshall. If he decides to test FA, you then you go and sign Doomervile and the best Available FA WR.

Are you high? Marshall's deal needs to be the 1st one addressed. He needs to get his money, and then we resign Kuper and Scheffler.

This team finally has a number 1 receiver and we are supposed to let him test FA? and signing the best available FA WR. we did that this year with Colbert and Jackson and they suck. FA WR hit the market because they are not very good. Do you honestly think Indy would let Wayne test the market if they were in the situation we are in with Marshall. Every team in the league knows you get your top receiver resigned.

Royal is very good, but he does benefit from having Marshall line up opposite side of the field. Marshall helps in every part of the offense, it would be a huge mistake on this organizations part if they let him even sniff FA.

also, with the huge increase in the Salary Cap, we should have the money to take care of our own and then bring in some top-tier talent in FA.

kappys
11-09-2008, 02:52 PM
Sing Kupper and Scheffler. Than offer what you can to Marshall. If he decides to test FA, you then you go and sign Doomervile and the best Available FA WR.

They'll franchise tag Marshall before they let him test the waters. At worst he might get away via trade.

kappys
11-09-2008, 02:53 PM
Why not just start Moss at RE and bring in Doom for passing downs?

And when Doom comes in move Moss over to LE

Against the Browns they were putting Doom at LDE on passing downs and leaving Moss on the right side. Actually they looked pretty decent in that formation with Peterson and Ekuban in the middle. Quinn had a quick release and they didn't run any deep routes so while our guys didn't look like they were getting a ton of pressure they did allright

broncoblue
11-09-2008, 03:13 PM
shouldnt even contemplate trading mr m.

WolfpackGuy
11-09-2008, 03:17 PM
Any dead money players no longer with the team eating up cap space?

cutthemdown
11-09-2008, 03:32 PM
We can always franchise Marshall one yr if we aren't ready to offer a long term deal. Try to sign Kuper, Sheff, but don't worry about Doom if he wants a ton of money.

Cutler obviously you offer a long term deal to you have no choice.

PRBronco
11-09-2008, 03:46 PM
I think we should sign Suggs or Peppers and if we do, we should trade Doom. If Doom is such a liability in the run that it prevents Moss from getting on the field because that would mean both are liabilities, then one of them is expendable and since Doom would get more in trade value, its something we should really look at. Plus, I like what Ive been seeing from Moss lately.

This is how it would go if we had Suggs or Peppers here for an interview:
"yeah we'd like if you line up between the guard and tackle in a 4 point stance on every play."
Suggs or Peppers: "are you f'ing kidding me? I'm out of here."

chaz
11-09-2008, 04:01 PM
We can always franchise Marshall one yr if we aren't ready to offer a long term deal. Try to sign Kuper, Sheff, but don't worry about Doom if he wants a ton of money.

Cutler obviously you offer a long term deal to you have no choice.

agree but cutler is signed thru 2011 so i dont think he'll be a priority this year unless we need to rearrange things

RunSilentRunDeep
11-09-2008, 04:05 PM
This is so easy. You extend Scheffler and Kuper after this season. Both guys would probably take nice, reasonable money since in truth, they're tied down for two years due to the CBA uncertainty (and they're not prima donnas).

In the coming offseason, you sign one free agent. His name is Albert Haynesworth and you give him $30M upfront if that's what it takes. You use every draft pick on defense, maybe throw 1-2 and a center and/or guard.

After next year, you evaluate Doom and see what the market is. Don't overpay and deal him if the CBA gives you an extra year of ownership.

DON'T EXTEND Marshall. Make him play out his deal and franchise him after the 2010 season (assuming the CBA makes him stay a 5th year). Franchise him and make him play year-to-year until he caves to a deal of your liking. If not, he can be the Walter Jones of receivers and earn great money while the team never has to worry about a monster payout or cap hit. If some team gives him crazy money, you take the two first rounders and wish him well.

Paying Marshall ahead of time is stupid. If he excels, he'll just ask for more money after a year or two. He is a receiver after all.

Denver724
11-09-2008, 04:28 PM
Cutler Marshall longterm
Tony S Maybe it would be yes if he wasn't so injury prone
Elvis Dumerville NO I know DE is a touchy subject but, he hasn't dominated enough imo to longterm him for big $$$.

Scheffler is key. Our offense is not the same without him. I think a lot of people are selling him short.

Archer81
11-09-2008, 04:31 PM
Denver will figure it out. I am pretty sure Cutler, Marshall and Sheffler will be together for quite awhile. Doom is another story.


:Broncos:

HEAV
11-09-2008, 05:30 PM
We also have to consider the current state of the economy and more important the pending labor stopage with the owners locking out the players (possibly) in 2011.

2009 will be the last Salary Cap year (under the current deal) in 2010 we will have zero cap to worry about, then 2011 there very well could be zero NFL.

So with that looming many players/agents will be pushing for deal front loaded and players that haven't hit the big dollars (rookie deals) will be looking for deals before 2010.

I can see B-Marsh holding out next summer in an attempt to force managments hand.

maher_tyler
11-09-2008, 05:39 PM
I like Doom but if there was one guy that i didn't sign it would have to be him!! I like his heart but he's just not big enough to stop the run on a consistent basis!!

tsiguy96
11-09-2008, 07:08 PM
This is so easy. You extend Scheffler and Kuper after this season. Both guys would probably take nice, reasonable money since in truth, they're tied down for two years due to the CBA uncertainty (and they're not prima donnas).

In the coming offseason, you sign one free agent. His name is Albert Haynesworth and you give him $30M upfront if that's what it takes. You use every draft pick on defense, maybe throw 1-2 and a center and/or guard.

After next year, you evaluate Doom and see what the market is. Don't overpay and deal him if the CBA gives you an extra year of ownership.

DON'T EXTEND Marshall. Make him play out his deal and franchise him after the 2010 season (assuming the CBA makes him stay a 5th year). Franchise him and make him play year-to-year until he caves to a deal of your liking. If not, he can be the Walter Jones of receivers and earn great money while the team never has to worry about a monster payout or cap hit. If some team gives him crazy money, you take the two first rounders and wish him well.

Paying Marshall ahead of time is stupid. If he excels, he'll just ask for more money after a year or two. He is a receiver after all.

marshall is a rare talent that opens up teh passing game for teh rest of the receivers, while still hauling in 6-8 catches a game. you sign him as long as you can with a deal that hes worth, dont jack him around just because you can. hes worth the money, you have to pay it.

BroncoMan4ever
11-09-2008, 07:34 PM
i think signing Marshall now would be a better situation until waiting until after next season.
Think about it, right now he is coming off a season and a half season as a top flight WR in the league but also has had disipline problems and run-ins with the law.
if we wait another year and he plays like he has been, and stays clean he will command even more money than he could right now. Right now we could still low-ball him a little.

And we have to resign Scheff. Look at our offense without him, we were averaging 15 points a game and everyone looked off. He comes back and even hobbled has a big game and the offense exploded. he needs to be given a long term deal.

Jay has the right attitude of pushing his money back a little to make sure everyone gets signed and we have him signed til 2011 anyway, so we still have time with him, but i don;t think we should wait too long on him either.

Hogan11
11-09-2008, 09:11 PM
Jay has the right attitude of pushing his money back a little to make sure everyone gets signed and we have him signed til 2011 anyway, so we still have time with him, but i don;t think we should wait too long on him either.

I agree...everyone should be down with the backloading idea as I believe it's the only way it's going to get done.

DBroncos4life
11-09-2008, 09:24 PM
lol at the cap.

tsiguy96
11-09-2008, 09:27 PM
lol at the cap.

people dont realize how huge the cap is anymore...this is the least of our problems.

BroncoMan4ever
11-09-2008, 09:50 PM
people dont realize how huge the cap is anymore...this is the least of our problems.

true, i mean for example look at Indy. Peyton, Wayne, Harrison, Clark, Sanders, Freeney. that team has a lot of guys with huge money deals, it shouldn;t be too hard in the current cap to get all our guys resigned and still bring in major help.

montrose
11-09-2008, 10:34 PM
I am sorry but i disagree with that. Doom is not getting sacks this season because he bagan the year with an injured hand, also, the reason Moss looks better rushing the passer is because he is on the opposite side of Doom in one on ones because Doom is commanding double teams. I think it would be better to trade Moss and keep Doom. if we are going to keep one pass rush specialist who is a liability against the run, I would rather keep the proven one.

The hand may have something to do with it but he IS NOT commanding double teams. I've been to every game this season and have yet to see him command more than a chip from a RB. With that, I'm not arguing Moss has been better tushing the passer (although it's debatable) but rather Moss is already a better, more complete player. We wouldn't get any value for Moss anyway while Dumervil provides a nice 3rd down pass-rush ability for another team on the cheap. Considering our other FA's, and the fact I expect Moss (who is already under contract for a few more year) will continue his progression - I see no reason in throwing money at Doom.

In the coming offseason, you sign one free agent. His name is Albert Haynesworth and you give him $30M upfront if that's what it takes. You use every draft pick on defense, maybe throw 1-2 and a center and/or guard.

There's no way Tennessee lets Albert hit the open market, they'll franchise him. The only Pro Bowl caliber FA that is likely to be available is Nnamdi Asomugha.

DON'T EXTEND Marshall. Make him play out his deal and franchise him after the 2010 season (assuming the CBA makes him stay a 5th year). Franchise him and make him play year-to-year until he caves to a deal of your liking. If not, he can be the Walter Jones of receivers and earn great money while the team never has to worry about a monster payout or cap hit. If some team gives him crazy money, you take the two first rounders and wish him well.

Paying Marshall ahead of time is stupid. If he excels, he'll just ask for more money after a year or two. He is a receiver after all.

The thing is, I highly doubt Brandon will show up for camp without a new deal. This isn't Chad Johnson or Brian Urlacher trying to redo their deals to effect a change in the market; this is a 4th round pick who is arguably the best WR in football.

Beantown Bronco
11-10-2008, 05:32 AM
There's no way Tennessee lets Albert hit the open market, they'll franchise him.

They can't. It was written into his franchise tag agreement this year that he could only be tagged once.

Denver724
11-10-2008, 06:34 AM
They can't. It was written into his franchise tag agreement this year that he could only be tagged once.

Only if he makes the Pro Bowl (which he will).

Drek
11-10-2008, 06:38 AM
A smart team extends Marshall this winter. They start talks the first day it is even legal to do so.

In the grand scheme of #1 WRs Marshall is less a trouble maker than Chad Jackson or Terrell Owens, and the only other WRs even in his class outside of that are Reggie Wayne (never leaving Indy) and Randy Moss (finishing his career in NE, getting up there in years). We need an elite #1 to go with out elite QB, or its all for naught. Do it now before he's got multiple pro-bowls and an inflating franchise tag value to leverage against us.

He's also a young and impressionable kid who looks up to Rod Smith (as he should) and is close with Cutler. Strike while the iron is hot and show him some team loyalty and you could drastically change his outlook on his career.

Scheffler is a recieving TE who gets a heavier workload than most #2's, but he'll be a cost effective resigning. Kuper is 1. a guard and 2. only a two year starter after this season. We'll be able to extend him for reasonable money as well.

The hard choice is Dumervil. He's starting to get it going again this season but he's obviously not an elite DE at this point and so we'd be stupid to give elite money. He'd need to take a smaller deal than what the Colts gave Mathis if you ask me, and that isn't a real bank breaker.

The real challenge will come when we've got to start resigning guys from the '08 class. By then the '06 class will have mostly (if not completely) been re-upped and Ryan Harris will have probably gotten a new deal, possibly Moss or Crowder if one of them breaks through. We'd then need to get something squared away with Royal, Woodyard, Hillis, and if anyone else breaks out (Barrett, Torain, Larsen, etc.) them as well.

Beantown Bronco
11-10-2008, 06:54 AM
A smart team extends Marshall this winter. They start talks the first day it is even legal to do so.

He's already on the team, so the first legal day would be today. There is no March 15th type "trigger date" for extending guys already under contract.

Rock Chalk
11-10-2008, 08:02 AM
The hand may have something to do with it but he IS NOT commanding double teams. I've been to every game this season and have yet to see him command more than a chip from a RB. With that, I'm not arguing Moss has been better tushing the passer (although it's debatable) but rather Moss is already a better, more complete player. We wouldn't get any value for Moss anyway while Dumervil provides a nice 3rd down pass-rush ability for another team on the cheap. Considering our other FA's, and the fact I expect Moss (who is already under contract for a few more year) will continue his progression - I see no reason in throwing money at Doom.



There's no way Tennessee lets Albert hit the open market, they'll franchise him. The only Pro Bowl caliber FA that is likely to be available is Nnamdi Asomugha.



The thing is, I highly doubt Brandon will show up for camp without a new deal. This isn't Chad Johnson or Brian Urlacher trying to redo their deals to effect a change in the market; this is a 4th round pick who is arguably the best WR in football.

Re; Haynesworth.

I want this guy so bad it gives me a woody everytime I think about it. However, the reality is Tennessee will pay him whatever amount of money he wants and that's the end of it. Fisher is not stupid like Shanahan when it comes to D-linemen

PaintballCLE
11-10-2008, 08:13 AM
watching every play of every game Ekuban is outperforming Dum by a long shot

tsiguy96
11-10-2008, 09:25 AM
watching every play of every game Ekuban is outperforming Dum by a long shot

ekuban has been a beast of a lineman this year...

rovolution
11-10-2008, 11:17 AM
Re; Haynesworth.

I want this guy so bad it gives me a woody everytime I think about it. However, the reality is Tennessee will pay him whatever amount of money he wants and that's the end of it. Fisher is not stupid like Shanahan when it comes to D-linemen

something we actually agree on!

Haynesworth is a flat out monster.

He forces nearly every running play to the outside b/c of his outstanding penetration.

if we go with a big ticket FA this offseason, we would be foolish not to jump into the Albert sweepstakes.

montrose
11-10-2008, 11:35 AM
They can't. It was written into his franchise tag agreement this year that he could only be tagged once.

Didn't know that.

Re; Haynesworth.

I want this guy so bad it gives me a woody everytime I think about it. However, the reality is Tennessee will pay him whatever amount of money he wants and that's the end of it.

Haynesworth will be the highest paid player in football after this offseason. The Titans have plenty of cap room to make it happen, I highly doubt they'll let him hit the market.

ekuban has been a beast of a lineman this year...

That might be a stretch. More accurate would be the best of a bad bunch, although I thought Moss outplayed him Thursday.

if we go with a big ticket FA this offseason, we would be foolish not to jump into the Albert sweepstakes.

If Albert hits the market, you can bet every team in the league with the funds will come knocking.

Kaylore
11-10-2008, 01:29 PM
We also have to consider the current state of the economy and more important the pending labor stopage with the owners locking out the players (possibly) in 2011.

2009 will be the last Salary Cap year (under the current deal) in 2010 we will have zero cap to worry about, then 2011 there very well could be zero NFL.

So with that looming many players/agents will be pushing for deal front loaded and players that haven't hit the big dollars (rookie deals) will be looking for deals before 2010.

I can see B-Marsh holding out next summer in an attempt to force managments hand.

Once again, this idea that a lack of a cap = big $$$ is totally bogus.


Most teams are more than ten million under the cap as is. The idea that more cap = more money for players has already been disproved.
Because of several provisions, an uncapped year would mean most teams would actually have less cap room than they have now. They will also have less to spend then they have now because of how revenue sharing would unwind. The provisions for uncapped years were made to make things difficult for both parties to force labor and ownership to try and have a salary cap. Many players contracts would automatically be extended and they would no longer be free agents as well. Basically an uncapped year would mean less money to go around and fewer free agents. This will affect what players can make.
Most contracts anymore are including language in their contracts that have provisions for a capped and uncapped year.
Lets not forget that most people know if there is an uncapped year and an eventual work stoppage that contracts signed under those conditions would be reworked anyway. Any benefit that someone were to glean (and there would only be a few) in an uncapped year would be eliminated once a new CBA was formed.


People hear the word "uncapped" and think its a free for all. It's not. It becomes more difficult for both the owners and the free agents. People negotiating with limited cash to work with and provisions preventing who they can sign and how many free agents hit the market. Factor in the knowledge that those conditions will be temporary, where it will either get resolved into a new CBA or worse, a work stoppage, and its not hard to see why Owners will be extremely gun-shy and an uncapped year isn't going to be this big spending bonanza.

worm
08-21-2009, 04:34 PM
What a difference nine months can make. ;D

Bronco LB52
08-21-2009, 04:39 PM
marshall, cutler, scheffler and royal need to retire as broncos... almost everyone else is expendable.

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3047/simpsonsnelsonhaha2c.jpg (http://img149.imageshack.us/i/simpsonsnelsonhaha2c.jpg/)

DBroncos4life
08-21-2009, 04:45 PM
I wouldn't do anything crazy like fire Mike and bring in McD.

TheDave
08-21-2009, 04:46 PM
Now this thread is funny... LOL

mr007
08-21-2009, 05:01 PM
Now this thread is funny... LOL

Now where's that hypocrite definition when you need it? Hilarious!

Dukes
08-21-2009, 05:04 PM
Ha! Best bump ever!

DBroncos4life
08-21-2009, 05:07 PM
Ha! Best bump ever!

Not for super fan.

Bronco LB52
08-21-2009, 05:09 PM
http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showpost.php?p=2460735&postcount=2

Though Cutler is still awesome. http://forums.denverbroncos.com/images/smilies/th_smile.gif

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3047/simpsonsnelsonhaha2c.jpg (http://img149.imageshack.us/i/simpsonsnelsonhaha2c.jpg/)

Willynowei
08-21-2009, 07:06 PM
And then...
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And now we are all obsessed with the bears.

tsiguy96
08-21-2009, 07:08 PM
marshall, cutler, scheffler and royal need to retire as broncos... almost everyone else is expendable.

haha!

bye cutler :D

~Crash~
08-21-2009, 07:47 PM
marshall, cutler, scheffler and royal need to retire as broncos... almost everyone else is expendable.

oh reallllllllllllllllllllllllllllly:thumbsup:

~Crash~
08-21-2009, 07:50 PM
Agree with the sentiments that Cutler, Marshall and Kuper must be kept, and Scheffler and Dumervil should only be kept at the right price.

nope that cutler guy sucks lol

SouthStndJunkie
08-21-2009, 07:54 PM
marshall, cutler, scheffler and royal need to retire as broncos... almost everyone else is expendable.

bwahaha