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Hotrod
11-04-2008, 02:03 PM
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/04/broken-machines-shortages-plague-voters-country/
DEVELOPING STORY -- Intimidation tactics, missing ballots and faulty machinery are plaguing some voters across the country as they go to polling stations to elect either John McCain or Barack Obama to be the next president of the United States.
In Philadelphia, FOX News' Rick Leventhal went to a polling station downtown where it was reported two Black Panthers had stationed themselves at the door to a polling station and were intimidating voters. One held a nightstick.
The man carrying the nightstick was reportedly escorted away from the polling station by police before FOX News arrived around noon. Outside, FOX News found another Black Panther who said he was a certified observer. Police asked him and the FOX News crew to leave the polling station.
Leventhal returned after 2 p.m. and the man said he was a certified poll watcher.
Click here to see FOX News' Rick Leventhal talk with one of the Black Panthers.
"He apparently is a certified poll watcher, so he can be her and should be here and is here. He is the only poll watcher we have seen that is a Black Panther," Leventhal said.
The McCain camp is reporting in Lancaster, Pa., that Republican voters are telling them they are receiving fake calls saying their polling places have changed.
The McCain campaign is also reporting voter intimidation in Florida. A Florida election official reportedly told a McCain-Palin voter "she could kill her for voting for [McCain] and that she didn't deserve an "I voted sticker" for voting for the Republicans, the campaign said in a press release.
In Flint, Mich., voters waiting in line were asked to produce identifications by people that may not have been certified to do so, discouraging and intimidating some voters, according to a spokesman from the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP).
Lines were long for voters in California. About 400 people were on hand in Orange County, south of Los Angeles, to keep the county's voting system running smoothly, said Brett Rowley of the registrar's office.
"We've got paper ballots as a backup," he said.
Election officials predict turnout in California could be as high as 80 percent.
During the late morning in Los Angeles four polling places experienced power outages because of rain, according to the city Department of Water and Power.
Some voters in Hillsborough County, N.C., didn't receive the second page of their ballots when they went to vote. Four precincts were missing the second page, according to Buddy Johnson, Supervisor of Elections for the county.
"It was human error on the part of a clerk who was asleep during training. The error has been corrected and if people want to go back and vote on the amendment issues they can go back and it will be a provisional ballot," Johnson said.
Federal election monitors were sent by the Department of Justice's civil rights division to Hillsborough County, N.C.
More than 800 monitors have been sent to 59 jurisdictions in 23 states. Several have had problems in the past with minority voters or with providing personnel at polling stations where Spanish or Native American languages are spoken.
FOXNews.com received complaints from voters around the country that polling stations were not prepared, that voting lists were inaccurate and some voters were worried when they were asked to cast paper ballots instead of using voting machines.
More than 100 voters wrote to FOXNews.com to report that polling stations did not ask for proof of identification. Many reported problems with missing or incorrect voter registration information, often denying them the ability to vote.
Voters that cast provisional ballots or paper ballots when voting machines were down worried their votes wouldn't be counted.
Gregory Holden reported that the voting list at his polling station in Lugoff, S.C., had problems. "Many people who have always voted in this precinct are all of a sudden not on the roll," he said. "They only have five machines and there are about 300 people in line. People are so discouraged some are leaving," he wrote.
Francesca Lourdes, in Maryland, said that she voted with three others, and the polling station where their official voter registration cards told them to vote didn't have them on the registers. She said they had to cast provisional ballots.
In Dayton, Ohio, election volunteers are asking elderly voters if they're sure they want to cast their votes and if they want to change what they picked. "I think its directly related to people voting for John McCain. I witnessed this and so did my husband and we went at two different times. If they are allowed to do this to confuse our elderly, this is a travesty," a voter in Ohio wrote to FOXNews.com.
Watchdog groups and government officials are telling FOXNews.com that voters are reporting a range of problems and that some polling places aren't able to handle the expected record turnout.
According to Wendy Weisner, of the Brennan Center for Justice and non-partisan watchdog group Election Protection Center, the group has been receiving calls from voters experiencing problems with machine breakdowns around the country.
In Virginia, there are reports from more than 40 polling stations that election officials don't have paper ballots to distribute when electronic machines break down.
In Pittsburgh and Philadelphia there are reports from voters of machines breaking down and no emergency paper ballots being distributed.
Voters in Palm Beach County, Fla., are reporting that optical scan machines are breaking down.
An increasing number of problems are being reported with voting machines in Dayton, Ohio.
Election Protection had fielded more than 12,000 calls nationwide by 9 a.m., the group reported.
In New York City, voters began lining up as early as 4 a.m. ET, even though polls didn't open until 6 a.m., said Valerie Vazquez-Rivera, a spokeswoman for the city's Board of Elections.
"We have a system that is traditionally set up for low turnout," said Tova Wang of the government watchdog group Common Cause. "We're going to have all these new voters, but not a lot of new resources. The election directors just have very little to work with."
Polls along the East Coast opened at 6 a.m. and by 8 a.m. one polling station in Atlanta had already run out of paper ballots, according to Clare Schexnyder, media spokeswoman for Georgia Election Protection, a non-partisan watchdog group.
"We had one location [in Atlanta] where all of the machines went down this morning and they didn't come back up until 8:08 a.m. They had problems with cards kicking out and a voter not getting a chance to vote," Schexnyder said.
About 2 million of Georgia's 5 million voters had cast ballots in early voting, she said, but that still leaves 3 million potential voters hitting the polls on Election Day.
An election protection volunteer helped that voter cast her ballot, she said, but there were up to 100 voters in line at one point, waiting while the six machines were down. "They were voting with paper ballots during the time they were down and they ran out of paper ballots and had to switch to provisional ballots. They are provisional ballots that will be counted, but there was craziness at that one polling place."
Virginia has also had its share of election mishaps, although the state is not yet reporting any incidences of fraud or voter intimidation.
Voters are turning out to the polls in record numbers in spite of the weather, according to Susan Pollard, a spokeswoman for the State Board of Elections. "Although a light rain is falling across the state, it does not seem to have dampened turn-out. Lines have been reported at some polling places; however, voting is proceeding quickly at many others."
The rain is causing an unexpected problem -- wet ballots don't feed properly into optical scan machines.
"Poll workers are setting the wet ballots aside and drying them out and asking voters to dry off before they handle the ballots. To make sure you don't have any problem with your ballot going through the optical scanner, be sure to dry your hands before completing your ballot," Pollard said. "All votes will be counted."
Three of the state's 2,349 polling stations opened late, two due to human error. One, at a library in Richmond, opened 25 minutes late because the librarian with the keys to the building overslept.
While the North Virginia suburb of Arlington has had one wet ballot issue, so far county registrar Linda Lindberg describes voting as "smooth sailing." She said 8,000 absentee ballots were sent to troops in Afghanistan and will be counted as a separate group "hopefully before midnight."
In Cuyahoga County, Ohio, where the Feds have sent election monitors, voters reported 58 problems voting to OurVoteLive.org.
In Ohio's Franklin County, Board of Elections spokesman Ben Piscitelli said officials again were dealing with typical glitches. "We're taking care of things like that," Piscitelli said. "But there's nothing major or systemic."
Schexnyder, from Georgia Election Protection, said she doesn't expect the problems voters are reporting to keep them from casting their ballots, although many will wait.
"We'll probably see problems all day as we see long lines, and any times you have computers connected to the equation, I think that every computer glitch we have is going to create longer lines," Schexnyder said.
FOXNews.com's Jennifer Lawinski and the Associated Press contributed to this report.
Spider
11-04-2008, 02:06 PM
we learned from the righties ....... ;D
as you guys told us ........... Get over it , your tin foil hat is too tight ..... dont look now but there are black helicopters outside of your house ..... ;D
I am so glad I am in my happy place right now
TailgateNut
11-04-2008, 02:08 PM
If it wasn't for the shenanigans during the 04 elections, I'd give a hoot.
Hotrod
11-04-2008, 02:11 PM
we learned from the righties ....... ;D
as you guys told us ........... Get over it , your tin foil hat is too tight ..... dont look now but there are black helicopters outside of your house ..... ;D
I am so glad I am in my happy place right now
LOL
Garcia Bronco
11-04-2008, 02:13 PM
we learned from the righties ....... ;D
as you guys told us ........... Get over it , your tin foil hat is too tight ..... dont look now but there are black helicopters outside of your house ..... ;D
I am so glad I am in my happy place right now
So are throats around the world.
TailgateNut
11-04-2008, 02:16 PM
the campaign said in a press release.
BAWAHAHAHAAH!
TailgateNut
11-04-2008, 02:17 PM
a voter in Ohio wrote to FOXNews.com.
More truth!
Hotrod
11-04-2008, 02:17 PM
the campaign said in a press release.
BAWAHAHAHAAH!
For once I agree with you TGN having diebold on my team I dont have to care who actually voted for what.
Kaylore
11-04-2008, 02:19 PM
If you're left wing then if Fox reports it, it didn't happen.
TailgateNut
11-04-2008, 02:21 PM
If you're left wing then if Fox reports it, it didn't happen.
No, if Fox reports anything, it's tainted BS.
barryr
11-04-2008, 02:22 PM
Silly me. Yes, we all know the major networks, all run by liberals, CNN owned by a liberal, and most of the major newspapers, which are run by liberals are unbiased sources of information.
TailgateNut
11-04-2008, 02:24 PM
Silly me. .
The first thing you've said that makes sense.
Spider
11-04-2008, 02:36 PM
Here I am in my happy place , you can see me smiling ;D
Garcia Bronco
11-04-2008, 02:49 PM
Here I am in my happy place , you can see me smiling ;D
Put that bird back in it's cage.
Smiling Assassin27
11-04-2008, 02:51 PM
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/04/broken-machines-shortages-plague-voters-country/
DEVELOPING STORY -- Intimidation tactics, missing ballots and faulty machinery are plaguing some voters across the country as they go to polling stations to elect either John McCain or Barack Obama to be the next president of the United States.
In Philadelphia, FOX News' Rick Leventhal went to a polling station downtown where it was reported two Black Panthers had stationed themselves at the door to a polling station and were intimidating voters. One held a nightstick.
The man carrying the nightstick was reportedly escorted away from the polling station by police before FOX News arrived around noon. Outside, FOX News found another Black Panther who said he was a certified observer. Police asked him and the FOX News crew to leave the polling station.
Leventhal returned after 2 p.m. and the man said he was a certified poll watcher.
Click here to see FOX News' Rick Leventhal talk with one of the Black Panthers.
"He apparently is a certified poll watcher, so he can be her and should be here and is here. He is the only poll watcher we have seen that is a Black Panther," Leventhal said.
The McCain camp is reporting in Lancaster, Pa., that Republican voters are telling them they are receiving fake calls saying their polling places have changed.
The McCain campaign is also reporting voter intimidation in Florida. A Florida election official reportedly told a McCain-Palin voter "she could kill her for voting for [McCain] and that she didn't deserve an "I voted sticker" for voting for the Republicans, the campaign said in a press release.
In Flint, Mich., voters waiting in line were asked to produce identifications by people that may not have been certified to do so, discouraging and intimidating some voters, according to a spokesman from the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP).
Lines were long for voters in California. About 400 people were on hand in Orange County, south of Los Angeles, to keep the county's voting system running smoothly, said Brett Rowley of the registrar's office.
"We've got paper ballots as a backup," he said.
Election officials predict turnout in California could be as high as 80 percent.
During the late morning in Los Angeles four polling places experienced power outages because of rain, according to the city Department of Water and Power.
Some voters in Hillsborough County, N.C., didn't receive the second page of their ballots when they went to vote. Four precincts were missing the second page, according to Buddy Johnson, Supervisor of Elections for the county.
"It was human error on the part of a clerk who was asleep during training. The error has been corrected and if people want to go back and vote on the amendment issues they can go back and it will be a provisional ballot," Johnson said.
Federal election monitors were sent by the Department of Justice's civil rights division to Hillsborough County, N.C.
More than 800 monitors have been sent to 59 jurisdictions in 23 states. Several have had problems in the past with minority voters or with providing personnel at polling stations where Spanish or Native American languages are spoken.
FOXNews.com received complaints from voters around the country that polling stations were not prepared, that voting lists were inaccurate and some voters were worried when they were asked to cast paper ballots instead of using voting machines.
More than 100 voters wrote to FOXNews.com to report that polling stations did not ask for proof of identification. Many reported problems with missing or incorrect voter registration information, often denying them the ability to vote.
Voters that cast provisional ballots or paper ballots when voting machines were down worried their votes wouldn't be counted.
Gregory Holden reported that the voting list at his polling station in Lugoff, S.C., had problems. "Many people who have always voted in this precinct are all of a sudden not on the roll," he said. "They only have five machines and there are about 300 people in line. People are so discouraged some are leaving," he wrote.
Francesca Lourdes, in Maryland, said that she voted with three others, and the polling station where their official voter registration cards told them to vote didn't have them on the registers. She said they had to cast provisional ballots.
In Dayton, Ohio, election volunteers are asking elderly voters if they're sure they want to cast their votes and if they want to change what they picked. "I think its directly related to people voting for John McCain. I witnessed this and so did my husband and we went at two different times. If they are allowed to do this to confuse our elderly, this is a travesty," a voter in Ohio wrote to FOXNews.com.
Watchdog groups and government officials are telling FOXNews.com that voters are reporting a range of problems and that some polling places aren't able to handle the expected record turnout.
According to Wendy Weisner, of the Brennan Center for Justice and non-partisan watchdog group Election Protection Center, the group has been receiving calls from voters experiencing problems with machine breakdowns around the country.
In Virginia, there are reports from more than 40 polling stations that election officials don't have paper ballots to distribute when electronic machines break down.
In Pittsburgh and Philadelphia there are reports from voters of machines breaking down and no emergency paper ballots being distributed.
Voters in Palm Beach County, Fla., are reporting that optical scan machines are breaking down.
An increasing number of problems are being reported with voting machines in Dayton, Ohio.
Election Protection had fielded more than 12,000 calls nationwide by 9 a.m., the group reported.
In New York City, voters began lining up as early as 4 a.m. ET, even though polls didn't open until 6 a.m., said Valerie Vazquez-Rivera, a spokeswoman for the city's Board of Elections.
"We have a system that is traditionally set up for low turnout," said Tova Wang of the government watchdog group Common Cause. "We're going to have all these new voters, but not a lot of new resources. The election directors just have very little to work with."
Polls along the East Coast opened at 6 a.m. and by 8 a.m. one polling station in Atlanta had already run out of paper ballots, according to Clare Schexnyder, media spokeswoman for Georgia Election Protection, a non-partisan watchdog group.
"We had one location [in Atlanta] where all of the machines went down this morning and they didn't come back up until 8:08 a.m. They had problems with cards kicking out and a voter not getting a chance to vote," Schexnyder said.
About 2 million of Georgia's 5 million voters had cast ballots in early voting, she said, but that still leaves 3 million potential voters hitting the polls on Election Day.
An election protection volunteer helped that voter cast her ballot, she said, but there were up to 100 voters in line at one point, waiting while the six machines were down. "They were voting with paper ballots during the time they were down and they ran out of paper ballots and had to switch to provisional ballots. They are provisional ballots that will be counted, but there was craziness at that one polling place."
Virginia has also had its share of election mishaps, although the state is not yet reporting any incidences of fraud or voter intimidation.
Voters are turning out to the polls in record numbers in spite of the weather, according to Susan Pollard, a spokeswoman for the State Board of Elections. "Although a light rain is falling across the state, it does not seem to have dampened turn-out. Lines have been reported at some polling places; however, voting is proceeding quickly at many others."
The rain is causing an unexpected problem -- wet ballots don't feed properly into optical scan machines.
"Poll workers are setting the wet ballots aside and drying them out and asking voters to dry off before they handle the ballots. To make sure you don't have any problem with your ballot going through the optical scanner, be sure to dry your hands before completing your ballot," Pollard said. "All votes will be counted."
Three of the state's 2,349 polling stations opened late, two due to human error. One, at a library in Richmond, opened 25 minutes late because the librarian with the keys to the building overslept.
While the North Virginia suburb of Arlington has had one wet ballot issue, so far county registrar Linda Lindberg describes voting as "smooth sailing." She said 8,000 absentee ballots were sent to troops in Afghanistan and will be counted as a separate group "hopefully before midnight."
In Cuyahoga County, Ohio, where the Feds have sent election monitors, voters reported 58 problems voting to OurVoteLive.org.
In Ohio's Franklin County, Board of Elections spokesman Ben Piscitelli said officials again were dealing with typical glitches. "We're taking care of things like that," Piscitelli said. "But there's nothing major or systemic."
Schexnyder, from Georgia Election Protection, said she doesn't expect the problems voters are reporting to keep them from casting their ballots, although many will wait.
"We'll probably see problems all day as we see long lines, and any times you have computers connected to the equation, I think that every computer glitch we have is going to create longer lines," Schexnyder said.
FOXNews.com's Jennifer Lawinski and the Associated Press contributed to this report.
Meh, Republicans are just ticked that the Dems are now officially better than they are at fixing elections on the national stage. It just goes to show you which side wants it more. :wiggle:
Atlas
11-04-2008, 03:19 PM
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/04/broken-machines-shortages-plague-voters-country/
DEVELOPING STORY -- Intimidation tactics, missing ballots and faulty machinery are plaguing some voters across the country as they go to polling stations to elect either John McCain or Barack Obama to be the next president of the United States.
In Philadelphia, FOX News' Rick Leventhal went to a polling station downtown where it was reported two Black Panthers had stationed themselves at the door to a polling station and were intimidating voters. One held a nightstick.
The man carrying the nightstick was reportedly escorted away from the polling station by police before FOX News arrived around noon. Outside, FOX News found another Black Panther who said he was a certified observer. Police asked him and the FOX News crew to leave the polling station.
Leventhal returned after 2 p.m. and the man said he was a certified poll watcher.
Click here to see FOX News' Rick Leventhal talk with one of the Black Panthers.
"He apparently is a certified poll watcher, so he can be her and should be here and is here. He is the only poll watcher we have seen that is a Black Panther," Leventhal said.
The McCain camp is reporting in Lancaster, Pa., that Republican voters are telling them they are receiving fake calls saying their polling places have changed.
The McCain campaign is also reporting voter intimidation in Florida. A Florida election official reportedly told a McCain-Palin voter "she could kill her for voting for [McCain] and that she didn't deserve an "I voted sticker" for voting for the Republicans, the campaign said in a press release.
In Flint, Mich., voters waiting in line were asked to produce identifications by people that may not have been certified to do so, discouraging and intimidating some voters, according to a spokesman from the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP).
Lines were long for voters in California. About 400 people were on hand in Orange County, south of Los Angeles, to keep the county's voting system running smoothly, said Brett Rowley of the registrar's office.
"We've got paper ballots as a backup," he said.
Election officials predict turnout in California could be as high as 80 percent.
During the late morning in Los Angeles four polling places experienced power outages because of rain, according to the city Department of Water and Power.
Some voters in Hillsborough County, N.C., didn't receive the second page of their ballots when they went to vote. Four precincts were missing the second page, according to Buddy Johnson, Supervisor of Elections for the county.
"It was human error on the part of a clerk who was asleep during training. The error has been corrected and if people want to go back and vote on the amendment issues they can go back and it will be a provisional ballot," Johnson said.
Federal election monitors were sent by the Department of Justice's civil rights division to Hillsborough County, N.C.
More than 800 monitors have been sent to 59 jurisdictions in 23 states. Several have had problems in the past with minority voters or with providing personnel at polling stations where Spanish or Native American languages are spoken.
FOXNews.com received complaints from voters around the country that polling stations were not prepared, that voting lists were inaccurate and some voters were worried when they were asked to cast paper ballots instead of using voting machines.
More than 100 voters wrote to FOXNews.com to report that polling stations did not ask for proof of identification. Many reported problems with missing or incorrect voter registration information, often denying them the ability to vote.
Voters that cast provisional ballots or paper ballots when voting machines were down worried their votes wouldn't be counted.
Gregory Holden reported that the voting list at his polling station in Lugoff, S.C., had problems. "Many people who have always voted in this precinct are all of a sudden not on the roll," he said. "They only have five machines and there are about 300 people in line. People are so discouraged some are leaving," he wrote.
Francesca Lourdes, in Maryland, said that she voted with three others, and the polling station where their official voter registration cards told them to vote didn't have them on the registers. She said they had to cast provisional ballots.
In Dayton, Ohio, election volunteers are asking elderly voters if they're sure they want to cast their votes and if they want to change what they picked. "I think its directly related to people voting for John McCain. I witnessed this and so did my husband and we went at two different times. If they are allowed to do this to confuse our elderly, this is a travesty," a voter in Ohio wrote to FOXNews.com.
Watchdog groups and government officials are telling FOXNews.com that voters are reporting a range of problems and that some polling places aren't able to handle the expected record turnout.
According to Wendy Weisner, of the Brennan Center for Justice and non-partisan watchdog group Election Protection Center, the group has been receiving calls from voters experiencing problems with machine breakdowns around the country.
In Virginia, there are reports from more than 40 polling stations that election officials don't have paper ballots to distribute when electronic machines break down.
In Pittsburgh and Philadelphia there are reports from voters of machines breaking down and no emergency paper ballots being distributed.
Voters in Palm Beach County, Fla., are reporting that optical scan machines are breaking down.
An increasing number of problems are being reported with voting machines in Dayton, Ohio.
Election Protection had fielded more than 12,000 calls nationwide by 9 a.m., the group reported.
In New York City, voters began lining up as early as 4 a.m. ET, even though polls didn't open until 6 a.m., said Valerie Vazquez-Rivera, a spokeswoman for the city's Board of Elections.
"We have a system that is traditionally set up for low turnout," said Tova Wang of the government watchdog group Common Cause. "We're going to have all these new voters, but not a lot of new resources. The election directors just have very little to work with."
Polls along the East Coast opened at 6 a.m. and by 8 a.m. one polling station in Atlanta had already run out of paper ballots, according to Clare Schexnyder, media spokeswoman for Georgia Election Protection, a non-partisan watchdog group.
"We had one location [in Atlanta] where all of the machines went down this morning and they didn't come back up until 8:08 a.m. They had problems with cards kicking out and a voter not getting a chance to vote," Schexnyder said.
About 2 million of Georgia's 5 million voters had cast ballots in early voting, she said, but that still leaves 3 million potential voters hitting the polls on Election Day.
An election protection volunteer helped that voter cast her ballot, she said, but there were up to 100 voters in line at one point, waiting while the six machines were down. "They were voting with paper ballots during the time they were down and they ran out of paper ballots and had to switch to provisional ballots. They are provisional ballots that will be counted, but there was craziness at that one polling place."
Virginia has also had its share of election mishaps, although the state is not yet reporting any incidences of fraud or voter intimidation.
Voters are turning out to the polls in record numbers in spite of the weather, according to Susan Pollard, a spokeswoman for the State Board of Elections. "Although a light rain is falling across the state, it does not seem to have dampened turn-out. Lines have been reported at some polling places; however, voting is proceeding quickly at many others."
The rain is causing an unexpected problem -- wet ballots don't feed properly into optical scan machines.
"Poll workers are setting the wet ballots aside and drying them out and asking voters to dry off before they handle the ballots. To make sure you don't have any problem with your ballot going through the optical scanner, be sure to dry your hands before completing your ballot," Pollard said. "All votes will be counted."
Three of the state's 2,349 polling stations opened late, two due to human error. One, at a library in Richmond, opened 25 minutes late because the librarian with the keys to the building overslept.
While the North Virginia suburb of Arlington has had one wet ballot issue, so far county registrar Linda Lindberg describes voting as "smooth sailing." She said 8,000 absentee ballots were sent to troops in Afghanistan and will be counted as a separate group "hopefully before midnight."
In Cuyahoga County, Ohio, where the Feds have sent election monitors, voters reported 58 problems voting to OurVoteLive.org.
In Ohio's Franklin County, Board of Elections spokesman Ben Piscitelli said officials again were dealing with typical glitches. "We're taking care of things like that," Piscitelli said. "But there's nothing major or systemic."
Schexnyder, from Georgia Election Protection, said she doesn't expect the problems voters are reporting to keep them from casting their ballots, although many will wait.
"We'll probably see problems all day as we see long lines, and any times you have computers connected to the equation, I think that every computer glitch we have is going to create longer lines," Schexnyder said.
FOXNews.com's Jennifer Lawinski and the Associated Press contributed to this report.
Well, this comes from FoxSpews so it must be true.
Needa Pass Rush
11-04-2008, 03:23 PM
we learned from the righties ....... ;D
as you guys told us ........... Get over it , your tin foil hat is too tight ..... dont look now but there are black helicopters outside of your house ..... ;D
I am so glad I am in my happy place right now
Times like this you're glad you have that "hose-and-go" cab, ay Spider? ;D
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-04-2008, 03:46 PM
Ha ha ha! :laugh:
The knuckle draggers are already preparing their excuses.
Priceless! :laugh:
Paladin
11-04-2008, 03:48 PM
Well, h3ll. Like Hotrod said: if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying....
GO BLUE!!!!!
Spider
11-04-2008, 03:52 PM
Times like this you're glad you have that "hose-and-go" cab, ay Spider? ;D
;D thats why I am smiling
Atlas
11-04-2008, 03:57 PM
Ha ha ha! :laugh:
The knuckle draggers are already preparing their excuses.
Priceless! :laugh:
LABF it's not going to be much of an excuse when Obama gets over 300 elector votes
The Black Panther story is amazing, but I think that both sides cheat a tad -- hope the number is very, very small and people can trust whatever outcome we get -- even if it is not the one we want.
rastaman
11-04-2008, 05:29 PM
Meh, Republicans are just ticked that the Dems are now officially better than they are at fixing elections on the national stage. It just goes to show you which side wants it more. :wiggle:
Now only if the the Supreme Court can weigh in on the side of the Democrats to restore their integrity after their colossal screw up in 2000!!!:thumbsup:
Breaker
11-04-2008, 05:44 PM
No, if Fox reports anything, it's tainted BS.
Like CNN calling Pennsylvania for Obama with 0% of the precincts reporting. But that is totally believable huh :thanku:
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-04-2008, 05:52 PM
LABF it's not going to be much of an excuse when Obama gets over 300 elector votes
But I'm sure these ignoramuses will still try to use it as an excuse. Ha!
colonelbeef
11-04-2008, 05:57 PM
Silly me. Yes, we all know the major networks, all run by liberals, CNN owned by a liberal, and most of the major newspapers, which are run by liberals are unbiased sources of information.
CNN is owned by TimeWarner. TimeWarner is a liberal?
Bronco Yoda
11-04-2008, 05:57 PM
If it wasn't for the shenanigans during the 04 elections, I'd give a hoot.
Two wrongs don't make a right TGN.
I'm so sick of this **** from both sides.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-04-2008, 06:39 PM
Like CNN calling Pennsylvania for Obama with 0% of the precincts reporting. But that is totally believable huh :thanku:
http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/41/7a/963f224b9da0b62a8697c010._AA240_.L.jpg
Meh, Republicans are just ticked that the Dems are now officially better than they are at fixing elections on the national stage. It just goes to show you which side wants it more. :wiggle:
I'm sure some jesting...
But seriously without making free-fair elections the whole system breaks down, and we all loose our freedoms. Too much blood has been spilt to not take it seriously. Again the root is mistrust, and those on both sides who are willing to cheat to get ahead. In both cases it is evil and needs to be stopped.
But in all fairness I think that fraud is limited to very small numbers, and perhaps things will cancel each other out -- I see more positioning, than actual fraud, but that is my rose-colored view of things.
Breaker
11-05-2008, 03:52 AM
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Just like in 04 when they called a couple states for Kerry with 1% of the precincts reporting and then had to retract it because Bush won?
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-05-2008, 04:04 AM
Just like in 04 when they called a couple states for Kerry with 1% of the precincts reporting and then had to retract it because Bush won?
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gunns
11-05-2008, 04:21 AM
Just like in 04 when they called a couple states for Kerry with 1% of the precincts reporting and then had to retract it because Bush won?
Go dry your tears and become an American again. You're just not used to a President being elected based on what needs to be done instead of fear. It has been a long time but I think you'll enjoy it.
Breaker
11-05-2008, 06:47 AM
Go dry your tears and become an American again. You're just not used to a President being elected based on what needs to be done instead of fear. It has been a long time but I think you'll enjoy it.
The difference between myself and you is that I will dry my "tears" in a couple days. I will not still be complaining and crying about it 8 years later.
Paladin
11-05-2008, 06:53 AM
The difference between myself and you is that I will dry my "tears" in a couple days. I will not still be complaining and crying about it 8 years later.
That's probably true because Obama will help bring about more rational and sane policies. By then, you will even think about getting your GED......
The days of the culture of corruption in Washington should be numbered, and that will help you feel better......
YES WE CAN!!!!!
Breaker
11-05-2008, 06:57 AM
That's probably true because Obama will help bring about more rational and sane policies. By then, you will even think about getting your GED......
The days of the culture of corruption in Washington should be numbered, and that will help you feel better......
YES WE CAN!!!!!
Doubt you can match my education background punk, but keep trying.
footstepsfrom#27
11-05-2008, 07:08 AM
Recount! ;D
Garcia Bronco
11-05-2008, 07:10 AM
The difference between myself and you is that I will dry my "tears" in a couple days. I will not still be complaining and crying about it 8 years later.
Agreed. Not that I am crying about in the first place. I support or Governemnt and our President , but I've seen it here from some for over 9 years tracing back to other forums with the bitching and complaining. And when governemnt still doesn't cure their ills, I wonder if they'll still complain and cry about it. Interesting times are ahead.
Garcia Bronco
11-05-2008, 07:12 AM
That's probably true because Obama will help bring about more rational and sane policies. By then, you will even think about getting your GED......
The days of the culture of corruption in Washington should be numbered, and that will help you feel better......
YES WE CAN!!!!!
2 years from now when the lobbists are still there and the spoil system is still alive and well what will you say then? What do you define as a culture of corruption?
epicSocialism4tw
11-05-2008, 09:02 AM
If it wasn't for the shenanigans during the 04 elections, I'd give a hoot.
Typical response.
Joe Democrat:
"Well...whatever it takes for us to win power is okay." + "You all should adhere to our morals (gay marriage, legal abortions, affirmative action, etc) !" = generic democrat ethical confliction
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-05-2008, 07:08 PM
Typical response.
Joe Democrat:
"Well...whatever it takes for us to win power is okay." + "You all should adhere to our morals (gay marriage, legal abortions, affirmative action, etc) !" = generic democrat ethical confliction
I'm surprised you haven't already started a thread claiming that ACORN stole the election with the help of Mickey Mouse and Tony Romo.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-05-2008, 07:11 PM
Doubt you can match my education(sic) background punk, but keep trying.
Your writing skills are what we would expect from a high school sophomore - not someone with post-graduate training.
Makes your claims sound more than a little fishy.
Breaker
11-06-2008, 01:12 PM
Your writing skills are what we would expect from a high school sophomore - not someone with post-graduate training.
Makes your claims sound more than a little fishy.
You rag on me for my writing skills? This coming from a guy who posts nothing but cartoons and articles from other people!!! Now that is classic.
TailgateNut
11-06-2008, 01:16 PM
Typical response.
Joe Democrat:
"Well...whatever it takes for us to win power is okay." + "You all should adhere to our morals (gay marriage, legal abortions, affirmative action, etc) !" = generic democrat ethical confliction
I'm not the one who tries to pass moral judgements. I don't give a **** what people do behind closed doors, or in your case in bathroom stalls.
I also don't shove religious **** down other peoples' throats.
FOAD!
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-06-2008, 05:14 PM
You rag on me for my writing skills? This coming from a guy who posts nothing but cartoons and articles from other people!!! Now that is classic.
:stupid:
You forgot to add "Al Gore invented the Internet" and "Obama is a Muslim."
Breaker
11-06-2008, 10:47 PM
:stupid:
You forgot to add "Al Gore invented the Internet" and "Obama is a Muslim."
Find the post when I said that you ignorant little tool. Go ahead find it right this very second. I am waiting for it.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-06-2008, 11:18 PM
Find the post when I said that you ignorant little tool. Go ahead find it right this very second. I am waiting for it.
The point, you drooling half-wit, is that your last two claims about me are on a par with such right-wing canards as the Al Gore/Internet story. :welcome:
Breaker
11-06-2008, 11:23 PM
The point, you drooling half-wit, is that your last two claims about me are on a par with such right-wing canards as the Al Gore/Internet story. :welcome:
Are you ****ing serious you brainless wonder? I can point to hundred of posts in which you use an internet cartoon, post others work, or simply say QFT, High Five, etc. Those claims are entirely accurate as even your most ardent supporters would admit. You are a ****ing joke of a person, a true idiot that has zero value in a discussion and should be banned for pure stupidity.
I mean for ****'s sake I asked you in one thread for an OPINION and you could only post an article that was written by another person. Get a freaking life janitor, or find a girl or guy that will put up with you incompetent ass.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-06-2008, 11:58 PM
Are you ****ing serious you brainless wonder? I can point to hundred of posts in which you use an internet cartoon, post others work, or simply say QFT, High Five, etc. Those claims are entirely accurate as even your most ardent supporters would admit.
But that's not what you said, sh*t wit.
You claimed I posted nothing but cartoons and articles.
Is it any surprise that no one here takes you seriously when you make such demonstrably false, idiotic claims?
In any event, it's good to know that political satire at your expense still has the power to compel you to dance like a trained monkey. Ha!
You are a ****ing joke of a person, a true idiot that has zero value in a discussion and should be banned for pure stupidity.
ROFL!
Being called "stupid" by an weak-minded, inarticulate boob who has been shilling for another weak-minded inarticulate boob in the WH for the past eight years is like being called "ugly" by a frog.
Get a freaking life janitor, or find a girl or guy that will put up with you incompetent ass.
See?
There you go with another demonstration of your ignorance and lack of education, i.e., your attempt to use a big word like "incompetent" in a sentence where it isn't really appropriate.
You're a pretender.
SprintRightOption
11-07-2008, 12:55 AM
These incidents should not be allowed to happen, and any election worker guilty of supressing votes should spend years in jail.
But I have a problem with this article. In the last 3 elections, at least 90% of the vote suppression and tricks were done by Republicans, but this article tries to make it seem like it is all done by Democrats.
What about the documented cases of tens of thousands of flyer bearing the state seal appearing on cars, houses, signs and elsewhere in only heavily democratic areas that say "Due to high turnout this year, Republicans will vote on Tuesday and Democrats will vote on Wednesday". Or the thousands of robocalls saying the same thing in battleground states.
What about the allocation of voting machines in many states so that there are 3-5 hours waits in Democratic areas and 20 minute waits in Republican areas? What about the Republican challenges of thousands of college students on the basis that they are not registered where they live because they get mail at a campus PO box and not at the physical address of their dorm?
What about the removal of thousands of voters from the voter rolls that seem to be 80% democrats and minorities? What about the signs in minority neighborhoods saying "If you have ever been arrested or gotten a speeding ticket, you cannot vote." Or "Anyone trying to vote who has a parking ticket will be arrested at the voting location". Or the GOP operatives challenging thousands of legitimate voters in 2004 to make the wait in line longer for everyone?
It is documented that the overwhelming number of voter suppression incidents targeted Democratic voters the last 3 elections. There are also a small percentage of Democrats cheating by bribing homeless people to vote, or trying to register a few illegal aliens (and succeeding for a few), or trying to show up and vote for a voter who died in the last year, or intimidating Republican voters in heavily Democratic precincts.
In 2004 voter supression yielded a loss of over a million Democratic votes and about 50000-100000 Republican votes by several nonpartisan estimates.
This year the Republican Noise Machine is targeting ACORN, who registered hundreds of thousands of new voters legitimately, but also had a few workers (paid by the registered voter) who tried to register ineligible people, but were not able to register them. Getting 500000 new legitimate voters registered and 600 non citizens who are signed up by commissoned workers but not registered to vote in the end is twisted. Twisted by republicans into a massive, evil effort to only sign up every illegal alien possible and cheat the system with millions of people who aren't Americans.
This kind of article helps muddle things up. Like in 2000 in Florida. The networks projected the state for Gore when the western tip of the panhandle, heavily Bush voters, still had 40 minutes to vote. Maybe as many as 3000 people didn't bother to vote after seeing the projection. And articles like this one were written, only mentioning this one situation, with the implication that Bush should've had 2000 extra votes. But it didn't mention that Bush's Florida campaign chair who was also Secretary of State, removed 19000 people from the voter rolls who had a similar name to a convicted felon, but were different people than them and legitimate voters (obviously). Analysis showed that 75% of them were democrats, meaning Gore lost over 5000 votes from this.
The fox article in 2000 about votes lost in Florida was all about the theoretical 2200 lost votes for Bush in the tip of the panhandle, hoping to give people the impression about vote suppression that was actually the opposite of what really happened, without mentioning the larger number of Gore votes purposefully dropped. It's the same here.
All voter suppression needs to end, with penalties for the perpetrators of years in prison. And if it does, Republicans will see fewer net votes.
barryr
11-07-2008, 06:12 AM
Since Obama won, the democrats will continue to use inferior equipment and will only worry about the machines not working when they get results they don't like. That's their typical way of doing things.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-07-2008, 06:25 AM
Since Obama won, the democrats will continue to use inferior equipment and will only worry about the machines not working when they get results they don't like. That's their typical way of doing things.
Are you trying to set some kind of new special olympics record for most clueless and idiotic posts in a row?
The "inferior equipment" you mentioned is manufactured by companies (like Diebold) with close ties to the GOP.
And if you're seriously trying to claim that the Dems have ever stopped worrying about the machines - no matter what the outcome - then you are even more uninformed than I thought.
At any rate, if you really gave a sh*t about the integrity of elections then you'd be asking Diebold why they had no trouble making an ATM that dispenses a paper receipt but, for some strange reason, couldn't do the same thing with a voting machine.
Rohirrim
11-07-2008, 07:47 AM
Recount! ;D
I doubt they want to do a recount. That would probably just give Obama more states.
Breaker
11-09-2008, 08:42 AM
But that's not what you said, sh*t wit.
You claimed I posted nothing but cartoons and articles.
Is it any surprise that no one here takes you seriously when you make such demonstrably false, idiotic claims?
In any event, it's good to know that political satire at your expense still has the power to compel you to dance like a trained monkey. Ha!
You DON'T post anything that is not a cartoon, the thoughts of another person, or a QFT, High Five, +1, or something of that ilk. Wait, once in awhile you attack another poster, I guess I left that one out. You never express an opinion, or even attempt to debate anything yourself you clown. You run like a little girl from a discussion until Rho, Spider, or someone else comes in to save you. You didn't even attempt to deny that when I asked for your opinion on an issue you simply posted an article written by another.
Being called "stupid" by an weak-minded, inarticulate boob who has been shilling for another weak-minded inarticulate boob in the WH for the past eight years is like being called "ugly" by a frog.
I didn't vote for Bush in 2004, as you well know so I guess my defending the boob in the White House is a complete and utter lie. I didn't support going into Iraq, or hundred of other things he did. Bush is not a Republican in any traditional sense of the word and he ruined the party I support with his idiotic actions.
There you go with another demonstration of your ignorance and lack of education, i.e., your attempt to use a big word like "incompetent" in a sentence where it isn't really appropriate.
Definitions of Incompetent:
1: not legally qualified
2: inadequate to or unsuitable for a particular purpose
The particular purpose mentioned would be your ability to think
3 a: lacking the qualities needed for effective action b: unable to function properly
The bold part also applies to your inability to think. Now in context of the sentence, I am suggesting you find a girl or guy who is willing to put up with your inability to think, for your own welfare, so that they may take care of you like one would an especially retarded individual. That means that the word incompetent is being used correctly in the sentence, janitor.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-09-2008, 05:12 PM
You DON'T post anything that is not a cartoon, the thoughts of another person, or a QFT, High Five, +1, or something of that ilk.
See?
These kinds of demonstrably false, idiotic statements are what make you such a laughingstock around here.
They are right up there with "Obama is a Muslim" and "Al Gore invented the Internet."
See?
These kinds of demonstrably false, idiotic statements are what make you such a laughingstock around here.
They are right up there with "Obama is a Muslim" and "Al Gore invented the Internet."
And LABF's claims that he isn't a socialist.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-09-2008, 05:31 PM
W*GS is just another right-wing straw man artist who uses "socialist" as an epithet without understanding its meaning.
McCain's supporters picked up on this same meme and tried to run with it - and look what happened to them.
You'd think W*GS would learn from their mistakes.
I don't use it as an epithet.
It's an entirely accurate word to describe your ideology, LABF.
How else do you explain being to the left of at least two honest-to-goodness self-admitted socialists and not being a socialist yourself?
Let me put it this way - if someone was as close to McCain as you are to Brian Moore, and yet claimed not to be a Republican, you'd rightfully call him out. I'm applying your own standards to you. That's all.
It's funny watching you try to pirouette.