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[cmhargrove]

Paymah ready to fill in for Champ
By Lindsay H. Jones
The Denver Post
Article Last Updated: 10/31/2008 01:17:22 AM MDT


Broncos cornerback Karl Paymah, left, with Wesley Woodyard, excels in "man" coverage. (Lisa Blumenfeld, Getty Images )

Say this for Karl Paymah: He's not going to back down from a challenge.
Not from the prospect of filling in for star cornerback Champ Bailey, and certainly not from a rookie challenging him to a footrace.
The latter happened during summer conditioning, when rookie running back Anthony Alridge insinuated that he was faster than Paymah, a high school track star who was clocked at 4.36 in the 40-yard dash at the NFL combine in 2005.
Alridge ran a 4.36 at the combine last spring.
"He called me out, and obviously I had to teach him his lesson. I beat him," Paymah said. "There's a lot of fast guys on this team. I'm not going to say I'm the fastest. Just don't call me out."
But outsprinting a rookie is nothing like the quest
Paymah will face Sunday against Miami when he is expected to make his first start of the season in place of Bailey, an eight-time Pro Bowler who is out for at least three more weeks with a partially torn groin. Paymah started three games as the nickel corner in 2007.
"Just a chance to be in there, starting, with all the fellas, just flying around having fun, is something I haven't done this year," Paymah said.
"It's exciting, and that's what keeps me going."
That it was Paymah, 25, who was tapped to start at corner opposite Dre Bly, initially was surprising considering rookie Jack Williams had supplanted Paymah as the nickel corner after three games, relegating Paymah's role primarily to special teams. It was Williams who initially replaced Bailey after the stalwart was injured in the first half against New England on Oct. 20.
Paymah said he spoke to coaches after Williams' promotion, promising them he was committed to doing whatever they wanted in order to get back on the field.
"I just had to have a good attitude through the whole process and let them know I wanted to get back out there, let them know I wanted to help the team out however I can and I wanted to be in Denver," said Paymah, who is in the final year

Denver's Karl Paymah, playing against San Diego's Chris Chambers this season, has the speed to keep up with top wide receivers. (Steve Nehf, The Denver Post)
of his four-year contract. "So I think they believe that and they gave me another shot."
Broncos defensive coordinator Bob Slowik, who coached the defensive backs from 2005-07, said Paymah moved back ahead of Williams through his work in practice.
"The biggest thing is that he never got down, he kept practicing hard, trying to get better and waiting for his next opportunity, which is here," Slowik said.
Also in Paymah's favor is that his strength is in man-to-man coverage, where he can use his combination of size and speed against the opposition's better receivers. At 6-feet and 195 pounds, Paymah is the biggest of Denver's healthy corners and the closest in build to Bailey, who is 6-0 and 192 pounds and is consistently mentioned as being the team's fastest player.
"I'm the kind of guy that when he has his head right can be one of the best guys out there, the most dominant," Paymah said. "But it's more mental, just knowing what you've got to do and going out and executing. I feel that's the only thing that's holding me back."
Playing well against Miami would be just the boost Paymah needs, even if being asked to replace Bailey seems to be an impossible task.
"He's been out there in game situations, and he's played well," coach Mike Shana-han said of Paymah. "He had a little bit of a rough preseason, but he's made some plays since he's been here, and we're counting on him playing well this game."
Lindsay H. Jones: 303-954-1262 or ljones@denverpost.com

His time has come

Cornerback Karl Paymah is the only member of the 2005 draft class still on the Broncos' roster. He is expected to make his first start of the season Sunday against Miami in place of Champ Bailey. Paymah had two interceptions in 2007.
PAYMAH'S VITALS
Age: 25
Height/weight: 6-feet, 195 pounds
College: Washington State
How acquired: Third-round draft pick by Denver in 2005, No. 76 overall
Experience: 51 games, three starts
2008 stats: Eight total tackles (three on special teams), one pass defense

[TheReverend]

I'm extremely hopeful the reps in practice and maybe a game plan that can assist deficiencies will elevate his play substantially this week.

[socalorado]

The most i got out of this article is the name "Wesley Woodyard" in there!

Please someone tell me he is inked in to play this weekend!??!??!

[cmhargrove]

I'm extremely hopeful the reps in practice and maybe a game plan that can assist deficiencies will elevate his play substantially this week.

In all honesty, his best chance to shine is in tight, physical man coverage. He's just not a zone cushion guy.

Hopefully, they let him play to his strengths and he might just make something happen.

[bowtown]

http://www.nebraskaprevlink.ne.gov/library/alcoholism.gif

[GoHAM]

Over/under on number of penalties Paymah commits this weekend 2.5


I'm taking the over.

[lex]

I like how these pieces always spin it as positively as they can. Its like theyre always, such and such is ready to answer the call. Its always, the starter is a great player (which is sometimes debatable) and it will be hard but Im willing to give it a shot. Where is the follow up piece when they were clearly not ready to answer the call?

[Ratboy]

I really like Paymah and think he will be just fine.

Look at it this way, Paymah isn't replacing Champ. Bly is actually replacing Champ and Paymah is replacing Bly.

Paymah can't be as bad as Bly, :)

[Garcia Bronco]

Fork Zone coverage

[crawdad]

Fork Zone coverage

Rep, I am with you on that one!

[maher_tyler]

Over/under on number of penalties Paymah commits this weekend 2.5


I'm taking the over.

or plays over 20 yards!! I hope i'm wrong...i'd really like to see him excel for once!!

[RaiderH8r]

I love my Broncos but I'm starting Ted Ginn Jr. this week in FF.

[bronco militia]

http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/denver/drew/S6CL_DREW1031.gif

[dbfan4life]

http://www.nebraskaprevlink.ne.gov/library/alcoholism.gif

Can I have some of that?!

[Kaylore]

Fork Zone coverage

:thumbs:

[Smiling Assassin27]

I'm the kind of guy that when he has his head right can be one of the best guys out there, the most dominant," Paymah said.

So this guy hasn't had his head right since, like, EVER...bonus.

[FantomForce]

CMHARGROVE please never get a job at the suicide hotline, I'm afraid you would lose ALL of your clients

[BlaK-Argentina]

Oh ****.

[rovolution]

"PI" Paymah.


its either guaranteed to be a big completion against him or a big completion with a PI call tacked on.

[OOJack]

http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/denver/drew/S6CL_DREW1031.gif

We get it, you already sold your tickets to a Miami fan...cause you made money...cause you're a fare weather

[Flex Gunmetal]

I love my Broncos but I'm starting Ted Ginn Jr. this week in FF.

I just picked up Ricky Williams from FA cause most of my backs are on byes.

[bronco militia]

We get it, you already sold your tickets to a Miami fan...cause you made money...cause you're a fare weather


:vermeil: :vermeil: :vermeil: :vermeil: :vermeil:

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[cmhargrove]

CMHARGROVE please never get a job at the suicide hotline, I'm afraid you would lose ALL of your clients

However, it would reduce my workload.

[FantomForce]

However, it would reduce my workload.

:rofl: :rofl:

[OOJack]

:vermeil: :vermeil: :vermeil: :vermeil: :vermeil:

It's ok fare weather, don't cry. You can still call yourself a broncos fan, but it doesn't mean you are...

[PLOWHORSE]

It's ok fare weather, don't cry. You can still call yourself a broncos fan, but it doesn't mean you are...

What does "fare" weather even mean? Are they charging money for rain storms now??LOL

[Natedog24]

It's ok fare weather, don't cry. You can still call yourself a broncos fan, but it doesn't mean you are...

http://nickmilne.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/facepalm2sn8.jpg

[TDmvp]

no living in Cincinnati is as far as i have to look...

[bronco militia]

LOL

keep posting OOjackass.errrrrrrrrrrrrr OODonkey ...ehh what ever

...come on over to section 128 and say high (Ha! ). The blue hairs have got my back

:spit:

[OOJack]

LOL

keep posting OOjackass.errrrrrrrrrrrrr OODonkey ...ehh what ever

...come on over to section 128 and say high (Ha! ). The blue hairs have got my back

:spit:

like i've told you before, how can i come by and say hi when you've already sold your tickets to an opposing fan for profit? You're the one who said that's what you do?!?!?

[bronco militia]

like i've told you before, how can i come by and say hi when you've already sold your tickets to an opposing fan for profit? You're the one who said that's what you do?!?!?

is this my Mother?

Mom, you still can't go to the game!

[Eldorado]

I really like Paymah and think he will be just fine.

Look at it this way, Paymah isn't replacing Champ. Bly is actually replacing Champ and Paymah is replacing Bly.

Paymah can't be as bad as Bly, :)

Bly can't be as good as Champ.

[OOJack]

is this my Mother?

Mom, you still can't go to the game!

nope, but I'll let her know...

[Rock Chalk]

LOL

keep posting OOjackass.errrrrrrrrrrrrr OODonkey ...ehh what ever

...come on over to section 128 and say high (Ha! ). The blue hairs have got my back

:spit:

Hey thats like 5 seats down from where OSKIE was sitting when we went to the Saints game.

[BroncoBuff]

Over/under on number of penalties Paymah commits this weekend 2.5
Paymah is a flag magnet, no doubt ... but he is excellent in man coverage. It's his below-average ball recognition skills that get him.

[cmhargrove]

Paymah is a flag magnet, no doubt ... but he is excellent in man coverage. It's his below-average ball recognition skills that get him.

I'm writing this down BroncoBuff, wait a second...

"Excellent...


Man...


Coverage."

There, got it.

[_Oro_]

I really like Paymah and think he will be just fine.

Look at it this way, Paymah isn't replacing Champ. Bly is actually replacing Champ and Paymah is replacing Bly.

Paymah can't be as bad as Bly, :)

lol I was worried about Paymah starting but now feel quite good about the whole situation. Could you do the same for Iraq and the Economy?

[BroncoBuff]

I'm writing this down BroncoBuff, wait a second...

"Excellent...


Man...


Coverage."

There, got it.
I'll stand by that .... with the "terrible ball recognition" proviso.

Think about it ... get a mental picture of when the flags fly at Brother Paymah ... he's always right on the receiver - body to body - he just never seems to know where the ball is. Half his flags would've never have been thrown if he swung his neck around toward the ball a time or two.



(BTW, changing the font was a nice touch :thumbs:)

[cmhargrove]

I'll stand by that .... with the "terrible ball recognition" proviso.

Think about it ... get a mental picture of when the flags fly at Brother Paymah ... he's always right on the receiver - body to body - he just doesn't know where the ball is.

Hold on a second,

"Can't...


Find...


Balls."

There, got it!

[Broncojef]

lol I was worried about Paymah starting but now feel quite good about the whole situation. Could you do the same for Iraq and the Economy?

Slowik should have tried it before, get rid of our only real player on defense and replace him with Paymah, this should turn out well. In a fitting solution either Obama or McCain will be an equal solution to your Iraq/Economy problem...feel better?

[cutthemdown]

Paymah may be fast but he is a crappy football player.

[Schism]

Shanny should do the 'Chase and Tackle' drill with Paymah in training camp next year and the year after that.

His awareness is his biggest problem, but with his size and speed he can be molded into an elite corner if we could get a gold on all-madden a couple of years in a row with him.

[cutthemdown]

Shanny should do the 'Chase and Tackle' drill with Paymah in training camp next year and the year after that.

His awareness is his biggest problem, but with his size and speed he can be molded into an elite corner if we could get a gold on all-madden a couple of years in a row with him.

you just can't teach instincts.

[bronco militia]

Hey thats like 5 seats down from where OSKIE was sitting when we went to the Saints game.

oskie bought 2 of my seats for the season

[Cito Pelon]

So with the two-headed monster JMFW and Karl Paymah, what we have his Karl-Jack Paymahfocking Williams.

[Florida_Bronco]

Paymah may be fast but he is a crappy football player.

I don't think it's that he is a crappy player as much as he's being used in a way that doesn't suit him. He's similar to Bly as he's a very physical corner yet they are being forced to play off the receiver. Last year when we were playing Bates' scheme and the corners were being aggressive, Bly and Paymah were playing really well.

[footstepsfrom#27]

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[HILife]

Hold on a second,

"Can't...


Find...


Balls."

There, got it!

hahahah yall are sillyROFL! Changing the font is a nice touch.

[lex]

I don't think it's that he is a crappy player as much as he's being used in a way that doesn't suit him. He's similar to Bly as he's a very physical corner yet they are being forced to play off the receiver. Last year when we were playing Bates' scheme and the corners were being aggressive, Bly and Paymah were playing really well.

I wouldnt say really well but compared to what Slowik has turned them into now, it seems like he was awesome.

[~Crash~]

we should be playing press with this bunch.

[cutthemdown]

we should be playing press with this bunch.

with no safety help to speak of I'm afraid what press coverage would bring. It's really hard to scheme a defense that has as many weak players as the Broncos do.

[lex]

with no safety help to speak of I'm afraid what press coverage would bring. It's really hard to scheme a defense that has as many weak players as the Broncos do.


Whats to fear? Its not like whats happening now is stopping anything. Yeah, we'd give up more big plays but we'd also have a better chance at creating turnovers. As it is now, theyre on pace to give up more yardage than any Broncos defense in history...and with 2 INTs after 7 games--one coming from a DT and one on a controversial play in that SD game. And youre defending this scheme. Unbelievable! I cant believe youre such a Slowik apologist.

[lazarus4444]

No, this article didn't make me feel any better at all. I already picked up tedd ginn jr. and will start him over TO or Braylon Edwards, just have to decide which one. I'm trying to put myself in the right frame of mind to watch the debacle that is our defense on Sunday.

[Hamrob]

Here's the quote of the day:

"He's a field general," Broncos safety Marquand Manuel said. "You have to go out there and play ball and understand he's going to make the correct throws. You've got to cut down on the (after-catch) yards."

So, hey..eh, Marquand....do you think that...just maybe...you could try to knock the ball down or even....hey what do you think....eh, intercept it?

Just a thought.

[cutthemdown]

Whats to fear? Its not like whats happening now is stopping anything. Yeah, we'd give up more big plays but we'd also have a better chance at creating turnovers. As it is now, theyre on pace to give up more yardage than any Broncos defense in history...and with 2 INTs after 7 games--one coming from a DT and one on a controversial play in that SD game. And youre defending this scheme. Unbelievable! I cant believe youre such a Slowik apologist.

I'm not really a Slowik guy. I would love a more proven D coach. I just think Broncos talent wise on defense the worst I have ever seen the team.

I record the games watch one or 2 players per play. Then rewind watch another player etc etc. When I do that on the defense I see some bad things. I watch players being dominated physically. So many of them seem to get pushed around or easily blocked that I wonder if any scheme or coach would make us much better.

I'm not a Slowik apologist. I'm saying I'm not in the meetings at practice getting the type of information that would let me make a decision on Slowik.

I haven't read any articles about him that would let me see how other NFL experts I admire think about his scheme. When I get more information I will then decide what I think about Slowik.

[cutthemdown]

No, this article didn't make me feel any better at all. I already picked up tedd ginn jr. and will start him over TO or Braylon Edwards, just have to decide which one. I'm trying to put myself in the right frame of mind to watch the debacle that is our defense on Sunday.

Pennington likes to throw to rbs and TE a lot. Ginn May not see as many looks as you think. He did break out last week though. I picked up Pennington and started him over Cassal. My 1 QB on a bye this week.

[oubronco]

I'm not really a Slowik guy. I would love a more proven D coach. I just think Broncos talent wise on defense the worst I have ever seen the team.

I record the games watch one or 2 players per play. Then rewind watch another player etc etc. When I do that on the defense I see some bad things. I watch players being dominated physically. So many of them seem to get pushed around or easily blocked that I wonder if any scheme or coach would make us much better.

I'm not a Slowik apologist. I'm saying I'm not in the meetings at practice getting the type of information that would let me make a decision on Slowik.

I haven't read any articles about him that would let me see how other NFL experts I admire think about his scheme. When I get more information I will then decide what I think about Slowik.

to add to this the players have NO idea what kind of scheme they are attempting to play either