U.S. Ships 800 Billion "AMEROS" to China; prepares to De-Monetize U.S. Dollar

[baja]

U.S. Ships 800 Billion "AMEROS" to China; prepares to De-Monetize U.S. Dollar

The US Secretary of the Treasury has informed the China Development Bank that the US has shipped $800 Billion of a new currency called the Amero, which is to be based upon the merging of the economies of The United States, Mexico and Canada into what is termed as The North American Union.

The current American debt obligation to China, currently based on the US Dollar, is now estimated to be the staggering sum of $2.5 Trillion, and which this new Amero will be exchanged for $400 Billion of this debt as the current American currency is set to be devalued by 50 percent before the end of the year.

Virtually unknown to the American people is that their current leader of the US Department of Treasury, Henry M. Paulson, Jr., has been tasked by President Bush to lead the efforts to join the economies of the US, Canada and Mexico and is also the head of the North American Development Bank, the bi-national financial institution established by the United States and Mexico to further the merging of their economies, and the leader of the Border Environment Cooperation Commission (BECC), the organization created by the governments of the United States and Mexico to further the implementation of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).

This is important to note as the final provisions of the NAFTA Agreement were implemented on January 1, 2008, leaving only the final merging of the economies of the US, Mexico and Canada into a North American Union to be accomplished, of which we can read:

“President Bush is pursuing a globalist agenda to create a North American Union, effectively erasing our borders with both Mexico and Canada. This was the hidden agenda behind the Bush administration's true open borders policy.

Secretly, the Bush administration is pursuing a policy to expand NAFTA politically, setting the stage for a North American Union designed to encompass the U.S., Canada, and Mexico. What the Bush administration truly wants is the free, unimpeded movement of people across open borders with Mexico and Canada.

President Bush intends to abrogate U.S. sovereignty to the North American Union, a new economic and political entity which the President is quietly forming, much as the European Union has formed.”

It is also interesting to note that American economists have been warning about the replacing of the US Dollar with the Amero, due to pressure from China, for nearly two years, and as we can read in this December, 2006 report titled Analysts: Dollar collapse would result in 'amero', and which says:

“As WND reported earlier this week, in an unusual move, the Bush administration is sending virtually the entire economic "A-team" to visit China for a "strategic economic dialogue" in Beijing Thursday and Friday. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke are leading the delegation, along with five other cabinet-level officials, including Secretary of Commerce Carlos Gutierrez. Also in the delegation will be Labor Secretary Elaine Chao, Health and Human Services Secretary Mike Leavitt, Energy Secretary Sam Bodman, and U.S. Trade Representative Susan Schwab.

But Chapman doubts the trip will help the Fed to engineer a slow dollar slide.

“The Chinese are going to do what the Chinese want to do, not what we want them to do," he said. "I believe the Chinese are going to send Treasury Secretary Paulson and Fed Chairman Bernanke home packing, with little or nothing to show for the trip."

How severe will the coming dollar collapse be?

"People in the U.S. are going to be hit hard," Chapman warned. "In the severe recession we are entering now, Bush will argue that we have to form a North American Union to compete with the Euro."

"Creating the amero," Chapman explained, "will be presented to the American public as the administration's solution for dollar recovery. In the process of creating the amero, the Bush administration just abandons the dollar.”

The prophetic warnings of these American economists are, indeed, coming to pass as during the month of September alone, 10 years worth of gains on US stock markets have been wiped out in their entirety and bank runs are now occurring in the United States for the first time since the days of the Great Depression leading to the failure of 13 banks, some of their largest, and the imminent failure of 117 more forecasted by the US government.

US Treasury Secretary Paulson, however, continues leading the charge attempting to force upon the American people the ‘final peg’ to their own demise by completely bankrupting the United States leaving no other choice but to completely discard the almost totally worthless US Dollar and its replacement with the Amero.

It goes without saying that the American people will greatly resist the replacement of their Dollar, but this cannot be said when tens of millions of them are without jobs and their life savings have become worthless leaving them with no other choice but accept what their own leaders have planned for them all along.

For myself, I think that the day such an announcement of the Amero replacing the Dollar is made, is the day I may be left with no choice but to start killing the people involved in destroying my nation.

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[cutthemdown]

what a bunch of BS.

[Play2win]

Just another "Stab" at America...

[baja]

Ya that's right saying George Bush has dastardly plans to wipe out USA's sovereignty is a stab at America. Are you really this fuucking stupid.

[watermock]

That link did not work but I found this from Reuters.


U.S. has plundered world wealth with dollar: China paper
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Trading will never be the same.BEIJING (Reuters) - The United States has plundered global wealth by exploiting the dollar's dominance, and the world urgently needs other currencies to take its place, a leading Chinese state newspaper said on Friday.

The front-page commentary in the overseas edition of the People's Daily said that Asian and European countries should banish the U.S. dollar from their direct trade relations for a start, relying only on their own currencies.

A meeting between Asian and European leaders, starting on Friday in Beijing, presented the perfect opportunity to begin building a new international financial order, the newspaper said.

The People's Daily is the official newspaper of China's ruling Communist Party. The Chinese-language overseas edition is a small circulation offshoot of the main paper.

Its pronouncements do not necessarily directly voice leadership views. But the commentary, as well as recent comments, amount to a growing chorus of Chinese disdain for Washington's economic policies and global financial dominance in the wake of the credit crisis.

"The grim reality has led people, amidst the panic, to realize that the United States has used the U.S. dollar's hegemony to plunder the world's wealth," said the commentator, Shi Jianxun, a professor at Shanghai's Tongji University.

Shi, who has before been strident in his criticism of the U.S., said other countries had lost vast amounts of wealth because of the financial crisis, while Washington's sole concern had been protecting its own interests.

"The U.S. dollar is losing people's confidence. The world, acting democratically and lawfully through a global financial organization, urgently needs to change the international monetary system based on U.S. global economic leadership and U.S. dollar dominance," he wrote.

Shi suggested that all trade between Europe and Asia should be settled in euros, pounds, yen and yuan, though he did not explain how the Chinese currency could play such a role since it is not convertible on the capital account.

A two-day Asia-Europe Meeting (ASEM) of 27 EU member states and 16 Asian countries was set to open on Friday. Though few analysts expect much in the way of concrete agreements, Shi said it could prove momentous.

"How can Europe and Asia grasp each other's hands and together confront the once-in-a-century global financial crisis sparked by the U.S.; how can they construct a new equitable and safe international financial order?" he said.

"The world is waiting for this Asian-European meeting to achieve big results in financial cooperation."

(Reporting by Simon Rabinovitch; Editing by Ken Wills)




© Thomson Reuters 2008 All rights reserved

http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-CreditCrisis/idUSTRE49N1XX20081024

[baja]

"The grim reality has led people, amidst the panic, to realize that the United States has used the U.S. dollar's hegemony to plunder the world's wealth," said the commentator, Shi Jianxun, a professor at Shanghai's Tongji University.

Yep USA has become thieves and bullies on a grand scale but don't mention it cause it is a stab to America.

America has so many self inflicted stab wounds they are hard to count. Wake up fools the ship is sinking and all some of you do is wave the flag.

[TheReverend]

For myself, I think that the day such an announcement of the Amero replacing the Dollar is made, is the day I may be left with no choice but to start killing the people involved in destroying my nation.

That quote should've destroyed the credibility for any reader.

This nutjob belongs in gitmo.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

U.S. Ships 800 Billion "AMEROS" to China; prepares to De-Monetize U.S. Dollar

http://halturnershow.blogspot.com/20...-to-china.html
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Link ain't workin' for me, brah.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Link ain't workin' for me, brah.Doesn't matter, this tripe isn't real anyway.

[Needa Pass Rush]

Ya that's right saying George Bush has dastardly plans to wipe out USA's sovereignty is a stab at America. Are you really this fuucking stupid.

Paranoia: a symptom in which an individual feels as if the world is "out to get" him or her. When people are paranoid, they feel as if others are always talking about them behind their backs. Paranoia causes intense feelings of distrust, and can sometimes lead to overt or covert hostility.

[baja]

Link ain't workin' for me, brah.

Doesn't work for me either I got this as an email and copied it here now I can't find the email. Sorry

[Miss I.]

Doesn't work for me either I got this as an email and copied it here now I can't find the email. Sorry

The reason it doesn't work is that this article is from some blog on the blogspot or something and you need to be a member I think to access it. I logged in with my gmail account and found his blog, but as far as I can tell this is mostly some guy's personal opinion on a bunch of stuff.

[baja]

Ya, you get that from the way it is written the thing is this story has been floating around for a while now. I surly don't know if it is true or false but the point is we live it times that this stuff gets speculated about all the time now, pre GWB this kind of talk was basically unheard of.

[Miss I.]

Well the good and the bad of the internet age. It is a great way to get access to data, but how valid some of the data is floating out there is questionable.

[baja]

Well the good and the bad of the internet age. It is a great way to get access to data, but how valid some of the data is floating out there is questionable.

Yes you're right I suppose it's mostly a fuction of the internet leap in popularity

[baja]

Well the good and the bad of the internet age. It is a great way to get access to data, but how valid some of the data is floating out there is questionable.

Yes you're right I suppose it's mostly a function of the internet's leap in popularity.

[ak1971]

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[TheReverend]

Ya, you get that from the way it is written the thing is this story has been floating around for a while now. I surly don't know if it is true or false but the point is we live it times that this stuff gets speculated about all the time now, pre GWB this kind of talk was basically unheard of.

I'm hardly a Bush fan, I'm not a liberal or a conservative, but that statement makes no sense. Paranoia of unseen powers, and fear of everything has been a constant throughout American history and the history of man in general. For Christ's sake, the first "third party" to take place in an American election was the Anti Masonic party. People are always going to drub up **** to be afraid of, or create some special insight so they can attain some make believe individuality or pretend they're special, and there's never any shortage of idiots to fall for it.

[baja]

I'm hardly a Bush fan, I'm not a liberal or a conservative, but that statement makes no sense. Paranoia of unseen powers, and fear of everything has been a constant throughout American history and the history of man in general. For Christ's sake, the first "third party" to take place in an American election was the Anti Masonic party. People are always going to drub up **** to be afraid of, or create some special insight so they can attain some make believe individuality or pretend they're special, and there's never any shortage of idiots to fall for it.

We are talking volume here but ginita makes a good point that the proliferation of the internet is a big factor but I think the climate of the times also comes into play. The Bush administration has been fertile soil for these speculations and theories

[alkemical]

I'm hardly a Bush fan, I'm not a liberal or a conservative, but that statement makes no sense. Paranoia of unseen powers, and fear of everything has been a constant throughout American history and the history of man in general. For Christ's sake, the first "third party" to take place in an American election was the Anti Masonic party. People are always going to drub up **** to be afraid of, or create some special insight so they can attain some make believe individuality or pretend they're special, and there's never any shortage of idiots to fall for it.

Actually Rev., I find that the operating status that the Government is choosing to use now, validates the conspiratorial mentality of many people. In a democratic type of government, it requires the people be knowledgeable of the governments actions, it's a currency based on trust. With the legislation passed by congress, coupled with the Executive Orders written by Bush (albeit, other presidents as well - i mean Reagen with his REX84 programme, etc), there's much validation to the paranoia that the government is indeed after you.

Some of the other points, about how it's always existed, etc - Does have merit. It's not that it's invalid at all. Just when you put things in a vacuum, things are more nefarious. It's also a point that, maybe it's a gut feeling by people. That ominous dread that THEY are conspiring against us. I mean, conspiracies happen all the time, and everyday. Conspiracy has taken a very negative meaning in the scope of how it's applied. But make no doubt, there are conspiracies, and some of them indeed are against you, me, etc.

You just have to get over the paranoia - it's an extension of fear and allows you to be manipulated. For me, what's the worst that happens. World turns to ****, and i am classified as a dissident and interned? So be it, i wasn't free* anyway if that happens. :)


*Free isn't defined by the laws of man for myself. I do however hold contempt to legislation for the betterment, to be disastrous and the most crippling. I'm already free myself - i just want to make sure that we aren't coerced into giving up our own sovereignty as individuals.

[TheReverend]

Actually Rev., I find that the operating status that the Government is choosing to use now, validates the conspiratorial mentality of many people. In a democratic type of government, it requires the people be knowledgeable of the governments actions, it's a currency based on trust. With the legislation passed by congress, coupled with the Executive Orders written by Bush (albeit, other presidents as well - i mean Reagen with his REX84 programme, etc), there's much validation to the paranoia that the government is indeed after you.

Some of the other points, about how it's always existed, etc - Does have merit. It's not that it's invalid at all. Just when you put things in a vacuum, things are more nefarious. It's also a point that, maybe it's a gut feeling by people. That ominous dread that THEY are conspiring against us. I mean, conspiracies happen all the time, and everyday. Conspiracy has taken a very negative meaning in the scope of how it's applied. But make no doubt, there are conspiracies, and some of them indeed are against you, me, etc.

You just have to get over the paranoia - it's an extension of fear and allows you to be manipulated. For me, what's the worst that happens. World turns to ****, and i am classified as a dissident and interned? So be it, i wasn't free* anyway if that happens. :)


*Free isn't defined by the laws of man for myself. I do however hold contempt to legislation for the betterment, to be disastrous and the most crippling. I'm already free myself - i just want to make sure that we aren't coerced into giving up our own sovereignty as individuals.

But not a shred of this is new. Obviously there are shreds of substance here and there to fuel conspirators and their beliefs, but this is certainly nothing new.

McCarthy and the red scare... do you think the government wasn't suspending civil liberties and american rights then? Japanese interment camps before that. And then there's panics over creations of central banks. Thomas Jefferson was probably the original American conspiracy theorist.

**** happens. We're a corrupt species. Give someone a shred of power and every once in a while, they'll use it to personal advantage.

People need to get over it. Evolution isn't just a genetic thing. It's a social thing, as well.

[The Lone Bolt]

Can we just rename this forum the "Paranoia and Conspiracy Theory Forum" and be done with it?

[Rohirrim]

Can we just rename this forum the "Paranoia and Conspiracy Theory Forum" and be done with it?

Can we just rename you "The Guy Who Makes Ridiculous, Broad, Sweeping Generalizations" and be done with it?

[baja]

Can we just rename this forum the "Paranoia and Conspiracy Theory Forum" and be done with it?

attendance is not required.

[Hotrod]

http://www.2spare.com/item_43133.aspx

Christine Fitzgerald, a confidante of Diana, Princess of Wales, claims that Diana told her that the Royal Family were Reptilian aliens, and that they could shapeshift.

David Icke's --BBC reporter-- claims that humanity is actually under the control of dinosauroid-like alien reptiles who must consume human blood to maintain their human appearance.

"Evidence" goes from Sumerian tablets describing the "Anunnaki" (which he translates as "those who from heaven to earth came"), to the serpent in the Biblical Garden of Eden, to child abuse, fluoridation, and the genealogical connections between the Bush family and the House of Windsor.

Icke theorizes that the reptilians came here from the constellation Draco. Like most conspiracy theories, falsification of Icke's hypotheses is nearly impossible, but Icke continues to sell books and give speaking engagements based on concepts ranging from the New Age to his political opinions.

[alkemical]

But not a shred of this is new. Obviously there are shreds of substance here and there to fuel conspirators and their beliefs, but this is certainly nothing new.

McCarthy and the red scare... do you think the government wasn't suspending civil liberties and american rights then? Japanese interment camps before that. And then there's panics over creations of central banks. Thomas Jefferson was probably the original American conspiracy theorist.

**** happens. We're a corrupt species. Give someone a shred of power and every once in a while, they'll use it to personal advantage.

People need to get over it. Evolution isn't just a genetic thing. It's a social thing, as well.

While i agree with you about evolution not being just a matter of biology, with an inclusion of a social construct (I have a crazy view on that too BTW), i feel that we have to move passed the Darwinian thought of social pecking orders in order to accomplish this.

While, i also do agree with you that "these things have been going on forever", I also feel the threat in these times is graver due to the technological advancement. It creates an even more transparent hand to oppress with.

It's funny you know: I had this idea that the mark of the beast was when man treated fellow man like a #, and not a human. :)

[The Lone Bolt]

attendance is not required.

Apparently neither is any semblance of rationality.

[alkemical]

http://www.2spare.com/item_43133.aspx

Christine Fitzgerald, a confidante of Diana, Princess of Wales, claims that Diana told her that the Royal Family were Reptilian aliens, and that they could shapeshift.

David Icke's --BBC reporter-- claims that humanity is actually under the control of dinosauroid-like alien reptiles who must consume human blood to maintain their human appearance.

"Evidence" goes from Sumerian tablets describing the "Anunnaki" (which he translates as "those who from heaven to earth came"), to the serpent in the Biblical Garden of Eden, to child abuse, fluoridation, and the genealogical connections between the Bush family and the House of Windsor.

Icke theorizes that the reptilians came here from the constellation Draco. Like most conspiracy theories, falsification of Icke's hypotheses is nearly impossible, but Icke continues to sell books and give speaking engagements based on concepts ranging from the New Age to his political opinions.


http://www.thecrimson.com/printerfriendly.aspx?ref=510772

Supersymmetry and Parallel Dimensions
Harvard Physicst Randall among world’s leading string theorists
Published On 1/6/2006 1:00:46 AM
By ADRIAN J. SMITH
Crimson Staff Writer

Professor of Physics Lisa Randall ’83 saw how strong gravity could be during a climbing fall in New Hampshire two years ago.

She was performing a “challenging” move when she took a surprising fall, she says. Instead of stopping the fall, her support ropes pulled her at the wrong moment and her heel slammed into the rock.

The accident that put her on crutches for several months should not have happened, Randall says.

“It was bad luck. It was a hard climb and I was just trying out a move,” Randall says.

Although the accident prevented her from rock climbing for a while, it did not stop her ascent in the field of theoretical physics. Randall has gathered the attention of scientists and the media for possibly answering a question that has long baffled physicists—why gravity is so much weaker than other forces.

Randall believes the answer to what physicists call the hierarchy problem may lie outside our visible world. Gravity may be weak compared to forces such as electromagnetism, because it is concentrated in another dimension.

Along with Raman Sundrum of Johns Hopkins University, she published two papers in 1999 that have changed how physicists think about the structure of space. Randall proposed that the universe has more than four dimensions (three of space and one of time) and that these extra dimensions could be infinitely large.

Randall has influenced string theorists, who also claim that extra dimensions exist. String theory is a model of physics in which building blocks are one-dimensional objects called strings instead of zero-dimensional particles like electrons.

Until now, string theorists have accounted for the fact that we can detect only three dimensions by claiming that the extra dimensions are curled up into infinitesimal loops and thus imperceptible.

Randall claims that these dimensions could be infinitely large provided that space has a warped geometry. In effect, we could be living in a three-dimensional pocket of higher dimensional space. Randall refers to these pockets in space as branes. Like a bead on a wire that can only move along one dimension, a brane may restrict our motion to three dimensions although other dimensions exist.

With branes, Randall discovered a way to explain how extra dimensions could be hidden and infinitely large. Because the math behind her theory works, theoretical physicists have paid close attention to her research.

In an article profiling the most influential people of 2006, Newsweek calls her “one of the most promising theoretical physicists of her generation.” From 1999 to 2004, she was the most cited theoretical physicist in the world.

[alkemical]

Can we just rename this forum the "Paranoia and Conspiracy Theory Forum" and be done with it?

hey, conspiracies do exist - and they happen every day. Conspiracy is just cooperation in another way. :)

[baja]

Apparently neither is any semblance of rationality.

You tell me....

Twelve Virtues of Rationality

The first virtue is curiosity. A burning itch to know is higher than a solemn vow to pursue truth. To feel the burning itch of curiosity requires both that you be ignorant, and that you desire to relinquish your ignorance. If in your heart you believe you already know, or if in your heart you do not wish to know, then your questioning will be purposeless and your skills without direction. Curiosity seeks to annihilate itself; there is no curiosity that does not want an answer. The glory of glorious mystery is to be solved, after which it ceases to be mystery. Be wary of those who speak of being open-minded and modestly confess their ignorance. There is a time to confess your ignorance and a time to relinquish your ignorance.

The second virtue is relinquishment. P. C. Hodgell said: “That which can be destroyed by the truth should be.” Do not flinch from experiences that might destroy your beliefs. The thought you cannot think controls you more than thoughts you speak aloud. Submit yourself to ordeals and test yourself in fire. Relinquish the emotion which rests upon a mistaken belief, and seek to feel fully that emotion which fits the facts. If the iron approaches your face, and you believe it is hot, and it is cool, the Way opposes your fear. If the iron approaches your face, and you believe it is cool, and it is hot, the Way opposes your calm. Evaluate your beliefs first and then arrive at your emotions. Let yourself say: “If the iron is hot, I desire to believe it is hot, and if it is cool, I desire to believe it is cool.” Beware lest you become attached to beliefs you may not want.

The third virtue is lightness. Let the winds of evidence blow you about as though you are a leaf, with no direction of your own. Beware lest you fight a rearguard retreat against the evidence, grudgingly conceding each foot of ground only when forced, feeling cheated. Surrender to the truth as quickly as you can. Do this the instant you realize what you are resisting; the instant you can see from which quarter the winds of evidence are blowing against you. Be faithless to your cause and betray it to a stronger enemy. If you regard evidence as a constraint and seek to free yourself, you sell yourself into the chains of your whims. For you cannot make a true map of a city by sitting in your bedroom with your eyes shut and drawing lines upon paper according to impulse. You must walk through the city and draw lines on paper that correspond to what you see. If, seeing the city unclearly, you think that you can shift a line just a little to the right, just a little to the left, according to your caprice, this is just the same mistake.

The fourth virtue is evenness. One who wishes to believe says, “Does the evidence permit me to believe?” One who wishes to disbelieve asks, “Does the evidence force me to believe?” Beware lest you place huge burdens of proof only on propositions you dislike, and then defend yourself by saying: “But it is good to be skeptical.” If you attend only to favorable evidence, picking and choosing from your gathered data, then the more data you gather, the less you know. If you are selective about which arguments you inspect for flaws, or how hard you inspect for flaws, then every flaw you learn how to detect makes you that much stupider. If you first write at the bottom of a sheet of paper, “And therefore, the sky is green!”, it does not matter what arguments you write above it afterward; the conclusion is already written, and it is already correct or already wrong. To be clever in argument is not rationality but rationalization. Intelligence, to be useful, must be used for something other than defeating itself. Listen to hypotheses as they plead their cases before you, but remember that you are not a hypothesis, you are the judge. Therefore do not seek to argue for one side or another, for if you knew your destination, you would already be there.

The fifth virtue is argument. Those who wish to fail must first prevent their friends from helping them. Those who smile wisely and say: “I will not argue” remove themselves from help, and withdraw from the communal effort. In argument strive for exact honesty, for the sake of others and also yourself: The part of yourself that distorts what you say to others also distorts your own thoughts. Do not believe you do others a favor if you accept their arguments; the favor is to you. Do not think that fairness to all sides means balancing yourself evenly between positions; truth is not handed out in equal portions before the start of a debate. You cannot move forward on factual questions by fighting with fists or insults. Seek a test that lets reality judge between you.

The sixth virtue is empiricism. The roots of knowledge are in observation and its fruit is prediction. What tree grows without roots? What tree nourishes us without fruit? If a tree falls in a forest and no one hears it, does it make a sound? One says, “Yes it does, for it makes vibrations in the air.” Another says, “No it does not, for there is no auditory processing in any brain.” Though they argue, one saying “Yes”, and one saying “No”, the two do not anticipate any different experience of the forest. Do not ask which beliefs to profess, but which experiences to anticipate. Always know which difference of experience you argue about. Do not let the argument wander and become about something else, such as someone’s virtue as a rationalist. Jerry Cleaver said: “What does you in is not failure to apply some high-level, intricate, complicated technique. It’s overlooking the basics. Not keeping your eye on the ball.” Do not be blinded by words. When words are subtracted, anticipation remains.

The seventh virtue is simplicity. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry said: “Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.” Simplicity is virtuous in belief, design, planning, and justification. When you profess a huge belief with many details, each additional detail is another chance for the belief to be wrong. Each specification adds to your burden; if you can lighten your burden you must do so. There is no straw that lacks the power to break your back. Of artifacts it is said: The most reliable gear is the one that is designed out of the machine. Of plans: A tangled web breaks. A chain of a thousand links will arrive at a correct conclusion if every step is correct, but if one step is wrong it may carry you anywhere. In mathematics a mountain of good deeds cannot atone for a single sin. Therefore, be careful on every step.

The eighth virtue is humility. To be humble is to take specific actions in anticipation of your own errors. To confess your fallibility and then do nothing about it is not humble; it is boasting of your modesty. Who are most humble? Those who most skillfully prepare for the deepest and most catastrophic errors in their own beliefs and plans. Because this world contains many whose grasp of rationality is abysmal, beginning students of rationality win arguments and acquire an exaggerated view of their own abilities. But it is useless to be superior: Life is not graded on a curve. The best physicist in ancient Greece could not calculate the path of a falling apple. There is no guarantee that adequacy is possible given your hardest effort; therefore spare no thought for whether others are doing worse. If you compare yourself to others you will not see the biases that all humans share. To be human is to make ten thousand errors. No one in this world achieves perfection.

The ninth virtue is perfectionism. The more errors you correct in yourself, the more you notice. As your mind becomes more silent, you hear more noise. When you notice an error in yourself, this signals your readiness to seek advancement to the next level. If you tolerate the error rather than correcting it, you will not advance to the next level and you will not gain the skill to notice new errors. In every art, if you do not seek perfection you will halt before taking your first steps. If perfection is impossible that is no excuse for not trying. Hold yourself to the highest standard you can imagine, and look for one still higher. Do not be content with the answer that is almost right; seek one that is exactly right.

The tenth virtue is precision. One comes and says: The quantity is between 1 and 100. Another says: the quantity is between 40 and 50. If the quantity is 42 they are both correct, but the second prediction was more useful and exposed itself to a stricter test. What is true of one apple may not be true of another apple; thus more can be said about a single apple than about all the apples in the world. The narrowest statements slice deepest, the cutting edge of the blade. As with the map, so too with the art of mapmaking: The Way is a precise Art. Do not walk to the truth, but dance. On each and every step of that dance your foot comes down in exactly the right spot. Each piece of evidence shifts your beliefs by exactly the right amount, neither more nor less. What is exactly the right amount? To calculate this you must study probability theory. Even if you cannot do the math, knowing that the math exists tells you that the dance step is precise and has no room in it for your whims.

The eleventh virtue is scholarship. Study many sciences and absorb their power as your own. Each field that you consume makes you larger. If you swallow enough sciences the gaps between them will diminish and your knowledge will become a unified whole. If you are gluttonous you will become vaster than mountains. It is especially important to eat math and science which impinges upon rationality: Evolutionary psychology, heuristics and biases, social psychology, probability theory, decision theory. But these cannot be the only fields you study. The Art must have a purpose other than itself, or it collapses into infinite recursion.

Before these eleven virtues is a virtue which is nameless.

Miyamoto Musashi wrote, in The Book of Five Rings:

“The primary thing when you take a sword in your hands is your intention to cut the enemy, whatever the means. Whenever you parry, hit, spring, strike or touch the enemy’s cutting sword, you must cut the enemy in the same movement. It is essential to attain this. If you think only of hitting, springing, striking or touching the enemy, you will not be able actually to cut him. More than anything, you must be thinking of carrying your movement through to cutting him.”

Every step of your reasoning must cut through to the correct answer in the same movement. More than anything, you must think of carrying your map through to reflecting the territory.

If you fail to achieve a correct answer, it is futile to protest that you acted with propriety.

How can you improve your conception of rationality? Not by saying to yourself, “It is my duty to be rational.” By this you only enshrine your mistaken conception. Perhaps your conception of rationality is that it is rational to believe the words of the Great Teacher, and the Great Teacher says, “The sky is green,” and you look up at the sky and see blue. If you think: “It may look like the sky is blue, but rationality is to believe the words of the Great Teacher,” you lose a chance to discover your mistake.

Do not ask whether it is “the Way” to do this or that. Ask whether the sky is blue or green. If you speak overmuch of the Way you will not attain it.

You may try to name the highest principle with names such as “the map that reflects the territory” or “experience of success and failure” or “Bayesian decision theory”. But perhaps you describe incorrectly the nameless virtue. How will you discover your mistake? Not by comparing your description to itself, but by comparing it to that which you did not name.

If for many years you practice the techniques and submit yourself to strict constraints, it may be that you will glimpse the center. Then you will see how all techniques are one technique, and you will move correctly without feeling constrained. Musashi wrote: “When you appreciate the power of nature, knowing the rhythm of any situation, you will be able to hit the enemy naturally and strike naturally. All this is the Way of the Void.”

These then are twelve virtues of rationality:

Curiosity, relinquishment, lightness, evenness, argument, empiricism, simplicity, humility, perfectionism, precision, scholarship, and the void.

[SJ Bronco]

http://www.2spare.com/item_43133.aspx

Christine Fitzgerald, a confidante of Diana, Princess of Wales, claims that Diana told her that the Royal Family were Reptilian aliens, and that they could shapeshift.

David Icke's --BBC reporter-- claims that humanity is actually under the control of dinosauroid-like alien reptiles who must consume human blood to maintain their human appearance.

"Evidence" goes from Sumerian tablets describing the "Anunnaki" (which he translates as "those who from heaven to earth came"), to the serpent in the Biblical Garden of Eden, to child abuse, fluoridation, and the genealogical connections between the Bush family and the House of Windsor.

Icke theorizes that the reptilians came here from the constellation Draco. Like most conspiracy theories, falsification of Icke's hypotheses is nearly impossible, but Icke continues to sell books and give speaking engagements based on concepts ranging from the New Age to his political opinions.

Considering Palin thinks dinosaurs had saddles, I'm thinking these are her theories.

[Hotrod]

Considering Palin thinks dinosaurs had saddles, I'm thinking these are her theories.

Do you have evidence they didnt?

[SJ Bronco]

Do you have evidence they didnt?

Yes, it's called carbon dating...look it up

[Hotrod]

Yes, it's called carbon dating...look it up

It is a flawed science. The bible would tell you the world was created in 6 days look it up

[SJ Bronco]

The bible is a book written by man. It's horse **** stories. Tell me how Radiocarbon dating is a flawed science? Do you even know what it is?

[Hotrod]

The bible is a book written by man. It's horse **** stories. Tell me how Radiocarbon dating is a flawed science? Do you even know what it is?

The bible was written by guidance from the holy spirit bub.

carbon dating is a tool of the devil that is all you need to know about that.

[The Lone Bolt]

The bible was written by guidance from the holy spirit bub.

carbon dating is a tool of the devil that is all you need to know about that.

And just when you thought this forum couldn't get any loonier . . . ::)

[SJ Bronco]

The bible was written by guidance from the holy spirit bub.

carbon dating is a tool of the devil that is all you need to know about that.

Well, as long as you have that rock solid proof, I guess I've been told!!Booya! :rofl:

[Hotrod]

Well, as long as you have that rock solid proof, I guess I've been told!!Booya! :rofl:

Well I guess you are one of the lucky ones that will be given a second chance during the great tribulation.

[Meck77]

I go in the woods for a week and not a damn thing has changed. Broncos are still struggling and Baja comes up with bigger lies to spread. Actually one thing has changed. I realized how much time I waste trying to rationalize with deranged individuals in this particular forum but I do have one statement to make.

BajaAbudulah is losing his mind. He's officially gone on record saying that the American government isn't even his anymore? Why bother calling yourself an American? With all it's flaws our government is still ours and it's our responsibility as Americans to stay involved and help fix it. Hiding in other countries is not American.

As much as I disagree with LABF at least the guy lives in America, works in America, and I believe he wants to see America prosper. I can't say the same thing about Baja and it's sad to see a grown man believe and spread lies even if it's on the internet.

Lastly Baja did you stop to realize that Bush is leaving office very soon and it would take Obama to carry on this great conspiracy living in your head?

You've paid John of God to heal you, you've soaked in the dead sea, but what you really need is a good dose of lithium or something to balance your mind sir. You've knocked some newly registered posters for not knowing the vibe of this forum but I'm no noob here and your paranoia is growing. I hope you can find the cure to whatever it is you are trying to fix.

Life is simply too good to be a bitter, paranoid, angry individual. There are two worlds. The real world where people speak to one another face to face and then there is Baja's internet world of paranoia. Baja you wouldn't last 10 minutes around 100 omaners running your mouth like you do here.

You have the nerve to differentiate yourself from us Americans by telling us that it's "YOUR GOVERNMENT". I say you go on record and just say death to American and be done with it you ****ing sackless prick. *spit*

GOD BLESS AMERICA

[alkemical]

I go in the woods for a week and not a damn thing has changed. Broncos are still struggling and Baja comes up with bigger lies to spread. Actually one thing has changed. I realized how much time I waste trying to rationalize with deranged individuals in this particular forum but I do have one statement to make.

BajaAbudulah is losing his mind. He's officially gone on record saying that the American government isn't even his anymore? Why bother calling yourself an American? With all it's flaws our government is still ours and it's our responsibility as Americans to stay involved and help fix it. Hiding in other countries is not American.

As much as I disagree with LABF at least the guy lives in America, works in America, and I believe he wants to see America prosper. I can't say the same thing about Baja and it's sad to see a grown man believe and spread lies even if it's on the internet.

Lastly Baja did you stop to realize that Bush is leaving office very soon and it would take Obama to carry on this great conspiracy living in your head?

You've paid John of God to heal you, you've soaked in the dead sea, but what you really need is a good dose of lithium or something to balance your mind sir. You've knocked some newly registered posters for not knowing the vibe of this forum but I'm no noob here and your paranoia is growing. I hope you can find the cure to whatever it is you are trying to fix.

Life is simply too good to be a bitter, paranoid, angry individual. There are two worlds. The real world where people speak to one another face to face and then there is Baja's internet world of paranoia. Baja you wouldn't last 10 minutes around 100 omaners running your mouth like you do here.

You have the nerve to differentiate yourself from us Americans by telling us that it's "YOUR GOVERNMENT". I say you go on record and just say death to American and be done with it you ****ing sackless prick. *spit*

GOD BLESS AMERICA


http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/2/24/Lewis_Prothero.JPG

[Rohirrim]

I think you're being unfair to Baja. After all, the Jordanians love him. ;D

[alkemical]

Oh and for the record. it's not my government either. It's...for the people by the people...well it isn't. In fact, in some of those documents i swear it tells us that if the government no longer affords the needs of the people - it is the people's right to do away with such.

[Meck77]

Oh and for the record. it's not my government either. It's...for the people by the people...well it isn't. In fact, in some of those documents i swear it tells us that if the government no longer affords the needs of the people - it is the people's right to do away with such.

Do you vote?

[baja]

I go in the woods for a week and not a damn thing has changed. Broncos are still struggling and Baja comes up with bigger lies to spread. Actually one thing has changed. I realized how much time I waste trying to rationalize with deranged individuals in this particular forum but I do have one statement to make.

BajaAbudulah is losing his mind. He's officially gone on record saying that the American government isn't even his anymore? Why bother calling yourself an American? With all it's flaws our government is still ours and it's our responsibility as Americans to stay involved and help fix it. Hiding in other countries is not American.

As much as I disagree with LABF at least the guy lives in America, works in America, and I believe he wants to see America prosper. I can't say the same thing about Baja and it's sad to see a grown man believe and spread lies even if it's on the internet.

Lastly Baja did you stop to realize that Bush is leaving office very soon and it would take Obama to carry on this great conspiracy living in your head?

You've paid John of God to heal you, you've soaked in the dead sea, but what you really need is a good dose of lithium or something to balance your mind sir. You've knocked some newly registered posters for not knowing the vibe of this forum but I'm no noob here and your paranoia is growing. I hope you can find the cure to whatever it is you are trying to fix.

Life is simply too good to be a bitter, paranoid, angry individual. There are two worlds. The real world where people speak to one another face to face and then there is Baja's internet world of paranoia. Baja you wouldn't last 10 minutes around 100 omaners running your mouth like you do here.

You have the nerve to differentiate yourself from us Americans by telling us that it's "YOUR GOVERNMENT". I say you go on record and just say death to American and be done with it you ****ing sackless prick. *spit*

GOD BLESS AMERICA

It's not my fault people don't like you That's what this post is really about isn't it Muck77. The Bush government is your government, you voted for him twice. He stopped being my leader when he attacked Iraq. Aren't you the guy that told me to not take this internet business too serious you fuucking phony. You should see the rep comments I get when I point out to you what a contrived individual you are. Lets see, first you are the #1 Bronco fan with your 100,000 dollar bus than you find out you even with the shiny bus and buying all the beer you can't buy friends at tailgate parties so you stomp off and buy a ranch and become a cowboy. Bet the real cowboys don't like you either do they. I love it when I piss you off you phony. Hey I know, want to pay me to leave too. ha ha ha. Patch had your number.

[TheReverend]

I like both of you

[Meck77]

I love life in America. It's obviously not for everyone though. Baja like I said I hope you find the healing you are so desperately seeking somewhere out there. All the money in the world cannot buy mental, physical, or spiritual health. I've said it to you many times. Lifes too short to be a bitter old man.

[baja]

I love life in America. It's not for everyone.

Do you even know what a pompous ass you are?

Hey can I call you Ben Cartwright?

[Hotrod]

Do you even know what a pompous ass you are?

Hey can I call you Ben Cartwright?

Oh no you didnt. Ben is the freaking man

[ak1971]

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[baja]

I love life in America. It's obviously not for everyone though. Baja like I said I hope you find the healing you are so desperately seeking somewhere out there. All the money in the world cannot buy mental, physical, or spiritual health. I've said it to you many times. Lifes too short to be a bitter old man.

So you show up and blast me for disavowing the Bush government than when you see the response by others is luke warm you try the high road condescending post. You're a piece of work Muck, are you McCain's campaign manager? As for bitter you need to reread your own post it's not I that is the bitter & angry one. Here I'll repost it for your connivence.

[Hotrod]

http://www.brianmicklethwait.com/images/uploads/WrongOnInternet.jpg

[baja]

I go in the woods for a week and not a damn thing has changed. Broncos are still struggling and Baja comes up with bigger lies to spread. Actually one thing has changed. I realized how much time I waste trying to rationalize with deranged individuals in this particular forum but I do have one statement to make.

BajaAbudulah is losing his mind. He's officially gone on record saying that the American government isn't even his anymore? Why bother calling yourself an American? With all it's flaws our government is still ours and it's our responsibility as Americans to stay involved and help fix it. Hiding in other countries is not American.

As much as I disagree with LABF at least the guy lives in America, works in America, and I believe he wants to see America prosper. I can't say the same thing about Baja and it's sad to see a grown man believe and spread lies even if it's on the internet.

Lastly Baja did you stop to realize that Bush is leaving office very soon and it would take Obama to carry on this great conspiracy living in your head?

You've paid John of God to heal you, you've soaked in the dead sea, but what you really need is a good dose of lithium or something to balance your mind sir. You've knocked some newly registered posters for not knowing the vibe of this forum but I'm no noob here and your paranoia is growing. I hope you can find the cure to whatever it is you are trying to fix.

Life is simply too good to be a bitter, paranoid, angry individual. There are two worlds. The real world where people speak to one another face to face and then there is Baja's internet world of paranoia. Baja you wouldn't last 10 minutes around 100 omaners running your mouth like you do here.

You have the nerve to differentiate yourself from us Americans by telling us that it's "YOUR GOVERNMENT". I say you go on record and just say death to American and be done with it you ****ing sackless prick. *spit*

GOD BLESS AMERICA

Here you go Bozo now you tell me who is the angry up tight one here. ;D

[baja]

http://www.brianmicklethwait.com/images/uploads/WrongOnInternet.jpg

That's pretty funny BTW are you Hotrod or Angry llama.

[Hotrod]

Here you go Bozo now you tell me who is the angry up tight one here. ;D

Honestly I am a little uptight and angry about your mud slinging at Ben.

[Hotrod]

That's pretty funny BTW are you Hotrod or Angry llama.

Depends on if I have taken my meds or not.

[Rohirrim]

Honestly I am a little uptight and angry about your mud slinging at Ben.

Those three "boys" of his were an exercise in genetics.

I wonder if Hop Sing had his green card?

[baja]

Honestly I am a little uptight and angry about your mud slinging at Ben.

Sorry!

That answers my other question, Hi Hotrod.

[alkemical]

Do you vote?

Does the government have your interests at heart Meck? is it YOUR government.

PS - yes i do vote. But i don't have any flags. Sorry i'm not a good american.

[The Lone Bolt]

That's pretty funny BTW are you Hotrod or Angry llama.

Try his name backwards.

[Meck77]

Anyone that wishes the demise of America just isn't someone I hold in high regard. I guess the truth hurts.

[baja]

Those three "boys" of his were an exercise in genetics.

I wonder if Hop Sing had his green card?

No SAG card that's better.

[baja]

Anyone that wishes the demise of America just isn't someone I hold in high regard. I guess the truth hurts.

Do you know someone like that?

[Hotrod]

Sorry!

That answers my other question, Hi Hotrod.

:wave:

Now that all the mean has worn off in this thread what is soaking in that salt tub feel like?

[alkemical]

Anyone that wishes the demise of America just isn't someone I hold in high regard. I guess the truth hurts.

Ya, i'm not the one that voted for corrupt politicians. People that do should be shot in the name of treason (after a military tribunal of course).

[Rohirrim]

Ya, i'm not the one that voted for corrupt politicians. People that do should be shot in the name of treason (after a military tribunal of course).

Ya mean, like if they outted an undercover American agent?

[ak1971]

:wave:

Now that all the mean has worn off in this thread what is soaking in that salt tub feel like?

yeah..do you get salt in your pecker?LOL

[Hotrod]

yeah..do you get salt in your pecker?LOL

OH sumbitch I never thought about that. Holy hell that would hurt.

[baja]

:wave:

Now that all the mean has worn off in this thread what is soaking in that salt tub feel like?

[B]To tell ya the truth Hotrod I feel like soaking in the Dead Sea has changed me in some way.


http://gallery.me.com/getsmart1#100043/DSC02044&bgcolor=black

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Can you guys & gals see this.

What kind of salt would be good ginita?

[ak1971]

OH sumb**** I never thought about that. Holy hell that would hurt.

can you imagine getting a piece of salt right down the middle?

[Miss I.]

OH sumb**** I never thought about that. Holy hell that would hurt.

Yeah, well try being a girl, we have way more places salt would not be good, at least not that kind of salt.

[Hotrod]

Talk about burning if that sucker got stuck you would need medical attention of some kind. I wonder if having sex would solve the issue???

[Hotrod]

Yeah, well try being a girl, we have way more places salt would not be good, at least not that kind of salt.

You have a point no doubt

[ak1971]

Talk about burning if that sucker got stuck you would need medical attention of some kind. I wonder if having sex would solve the issue???

This kind of comes to mind

[baja]

[B]To tell ya the truth Hotrod I feel like soaking in the Dead Sea has changed me in some way.


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Can you guys & gals see this.

BTW What kind of salt would be good ginita

[Rohirrim]

[B]To tell ya the truth Hotrod I feel like soaking in the Dead Sea has changed me in some way.


Maybe you're turning Jewish?

[Hotrod]

Can you guys & gals see this.

BTW What kind of salt would be good ginita

Dude wtf is that oil?

[baja]

Soaking in the Dead Sea is very strange it's like you are a cork. Once you figure it out you can actually walk along in the water it's very weird. My first time in I got water in my eyes stung so bad I could not open my eyes for about 5 minutes. I heard later some people do than and panic get turned over on their belly and drown.

[Meck77]

So you show up and blast me for disavowing the Bush government than when you see the response by others is luke warm you try the high road condescending post. You're a piece of work Muck, are you McCain's campaign manager? As for bitter you need to reread your own post it's not I that is the bitter & angry one. Here I'll repost it for your connivence.

The irony of it all is we both supported Ron Paul so spare me the mccain crap.

Baja I feel sorry for you and like I said I hope you find the healing you are looking for because you are certainly missing something in your life. Couldn't imagine being in my 60's and living such a paranoid life.

I always seem to end these little discussions with you the same way and I'll do it again with a little twist.

Life is good and the American people will overcome the disaster/end of times you predict for us.

[baja]

Maybe you're turning Jewish?

Hope not I'm on the wrong shore.

[Needa Pass Rush]

[B]To tell ya the truth Hotrod I feel like soaking in the Dead Sea has changed me in some way.


Where did you get the picture of Bill Ayers covered in mud??

[Rohirrim]

Hope not I'm on the wrong shore.

Do you suddenly have the overwhelming desire to put sour cream on your food?

[baja]

The irony of it all is we both supported Ron Paul so spare me the mccain crap.

Baja I feel sorry for you and like I said I hope you find the healing you are looking for because you are certainly missing something in your life. Couldn't imagine being in my 60's and living such a paranoid life.

I always seem to end these little discussions with you the same way and I'll do it again with a little twist.

Life is good and the American people will overcome the disaster/end of times you predict for us.

You fuucking douche bag I've been in Europe for over a month and I'm now in the Middle East where the hell is paranoia.

You don't live in a third world country for 20 years travel all over Asia, Europe and the Middle East while being paranoid.Just because you live where you have always lived does not make you somehow brave. With your money it probably means you are afraid to travel course if I had your personality I'd stay home, You are the poster child for Ugly American you should stay home in your case it probably is safer.

[ak1971]

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[Hotrod]

You fuucking douche bag I've been in Europe for over a month and I'm now in the Middle East where the hell is paranoia.

You don't live in a third world country for 20 years travel all over Asia, Europe and the Middle East while being paranoid.Just because you live where you have always lived does not make you somehow brave. With your money it probably means you are afraid to travel course if I had your personality I'd stay home, You are the poster child for Ugly American you should stay home in your case it probably is safer.

Geez dude lighten up. I mean you do collect seeds that could certainly be a sign of paranoia.

[alkemical]

Geez dude lighten up. I mean you do collect seeds that could certainly be a sign of paranoia.

ya, but he also has farmland... sooo...it's not like he just has bags of seeds.

[Miss I.]

Can you guys & gals see this.

BTW What kind of salt would be good ginita

Well I was going to say, well the joke from Sex and the City about spunk being salty. But evidently it is mostly made of sugar, so apparently boys are the ones made with sugar and spice. I learn the weirdest things sometimes. Some of it is from this board.

[ak1971]

Well I was going to say, well the joke from Sex and the City about spunk being salty. But evidently it is mostly made of sugar, so apparently boys are the ones made with sugar and spice. I learn the weirdest things sometimes. Some of it is from this board.

what about snowballing?

[Rank&File]

You fuucking douche bag I've been in Europe for over a month and I'm now in the Middle East where the hell is paranoia.

You don't live in a third world country for 20 years travel all over Asia, Europe and the Middle East while being paranoid.Just because you live where you have always lived does not make you somehow brave. With your money it probably means you are afraid to travel course if I had your personality I'd stay home, You are the poster child for Ugly American you should stay home in your case it probably is safer.

Poster child for ugly American...wow you are amazing. You just can't contain your self righteousness can you? Your blazing sense of self worth goes over like a 300lb canary.

[Miss I.]

what about snowballing?

I, sadly, do not know what that is. If I type that into my browser am I going to get Rickrolled? :)

[ak1971]

I, sadly, do not know what that is. If I type that into my browser am I going to get Rickrolled? :)

just dont at work..its disgusting.

[baja]

Geez dude lighten up. I mean you do collect seeds that could certainly be a sign of paranoia.

I think it is called planning ahead. Ya know I don't want these hard times I believe are descending on us but I do want to be ready if they do come.

I am traveling these two months because I do enjoy life and don't mind taking chances and I resent some judgmental prick like meck calling me out as if I am some un-American fear ridden person hiding out. I am a USA vet that served my country for 3 years of my life and it pisses me off when some personality challenged rich boy that would not know the business end of an M-16 calls me un American.

[Meck77]

ya, but he also has farmland... sooo...it's not like he just has bags of seeds.

Don't forget the hand tools! How many times has Baja told us we'll all be in trouble if we don't have seeds and hand tools! :rofl:

Baja you are right. I was born in Colorado, live in Colorado, and might even die here on my little ole ranch. Yeee haww!

Glad I could get under your skin. Peace. ;D

Got to love the net.

[Miss I.]

just dont at work..its disgusting.

Well luckily I am not at work or unluckily now that I have seen the drawing in Wikpedia. This is the strangest thread ever. But I am learning stuff they didn't teach me in school, probably for a reason. :)

[Rank&File]

Baja you are a coward. A twisted silly old man. You send a **** you to me in private? What the hell is "rep" anyways? Every other post of yours is patting yourself on the back, putting someone else down, or touting yourself as some kind of intellectual superior. You send a "neg rep" as though it in some way "hurts" me? Silly old fart...

[baja]

Don't forget the hand tools! How many times has Baja told us we'll all be in trouble if we don't have seeds and hand tools! :rofl:

Baja you are right. I was born in Colorado, live in Colorado, and might even die here on my little ole ranch. Yeee haww!

I always ignore your posts unless you go off on me so here's an idea since you don't like me and I don't like you why don't you do the same and not respond to any of my posts cause when you call me out you will get it back so back off nancy boy.

BTW What was your address and phone number again I missed it last time.

[baja]

Baja you are a coward. A twisted silly old man. You send a **** you to me in private? What the hell is "rep" anyways? Every other post of yours is patting yourself on the back, putting someone else down, or touting yourself as some kind of intellectual superior. You send a "neg rep" as though it in some way "hurts" me? Silly old fart...

so why are you whining about it, oh and here is a public F you.

[ak1971]

random fact ..The Deep Throat director died today.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gzz5DrcnBKR0FVJSoHf1Azqt7jPQD9438OIO0

[Rank&File]

so why are you whining about it, oh and here is a public F you.

Where I'm from, that's not called whining, it's called outing a coward. That coward is you.

[ak1971]

Well luckily I am not at work or unluckily now that I have seen the drawing in Wikpedia. This is the strangest thread ever. But I am learning stuff they didn't teach me in school, probably for a reason. :)

I pretty sure this is turning out to be the best thread ever

[Hotrod]

random fact ..The Deep Throat director died today.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gzz5DrcnBKR0FVJSoHf1Azqt7jPQD9438OIO0

RIP Mr. Deep throat.............wait that does not sound right does it???

[baja]

Don't forget the hand tools! How many times has Baja told us we'll all be in trouble if we don't have seeds and hand tools! :rofl:

Baja you are right. I was born in Colorado, live in Colorado, and might even die here on my little ole ranch. Yeee haww!

Glad I could get under your skin. Peace. ;D

Got to love the net.

Just don't say you respect the vets because you don't. You are probable the most un American guy here You support the Bush tyranny , flag waver. There is a time to go against your government, it's when it no longer serves your best interests with your land grab I'd of thought you might of figured it out. Guess not.

[ak1971]

RIP Mr. Deep throat.............wait that does not sound right does it???

maybe if John Holmes was involved

[Meck77]

I always ignore your posts unless you go off on me so here's an idea since you don't like me and I don't like you why don't you do the same and not respond to any of my posts cause when you call me out you will get it back so back off nancy boy.

BTW What was your address and phone number again I missed it last time.

And there it is. The tough guy internet threat. Baja your old ass wouldn't make it past my attack goat Lucy.

It's been fun. I have some seeds to plant with my hand tools. :welcome:



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[Miss I.]

maybe if John Holmes was involved

It's an interesting thread, it appears there are at least 2 conversations going on all at once, and not all of them are the voices in my head talking to me. Interesting. I think I wil stick to the porn portion of this thread. I am learning much from you Obi Wan.

[ak1971]

It's an interesting thread, it appears there are at least 2 conversations going on all at once, and not all of them are the voices in my head talking to me. Interesting. I think I wil stick to the porn portion of this thread. I am learning much from you Obi Wan.

I met Jenna Jameson in July, kind of turned me off of porn..she needs to eat

[baja]

And there it is. The tough guy internet threat. Baja your old ass wouldn't make it past my attack goat Lucy.

It's been fun. I have some seeds to plant with my hand tools. :welcome:



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First you attack me with a half page rant than you end with this It is no wonder you can't buy a friend.

If you were a good American you would have gladly sold your lot to the city of Denver for the common good of the American people for their public transportation but like most flag waver you are patriotic only when it is convenient

[Miss I.]

I met Jenna Jameson in July, kind of turned me off of porn..she needs to eat

Oh come on, I bet she eats something, probably salty, oh wait it's sugary, that's it.

Do you watch Family Guy? She was in an episode of that one time.

[ak1971]

Oh come on, I bet she eats something, probably salty, oh wait it's sugary, that's it.

Do you watch Family Guy? She was in an episode of that one time.

yeah..I heard she was pregnant too! Her arm was about as big as my..well :~ohyah!:

[Miss I.]

yeah..I heard she was pregnant too! Her arm was about as big as my..well :~ohyah!:

You have a well?

[Meck77]

First you attack me with a half page rant than you end with this

Ah but that is the beauty of this forum Columbus. It doesn't have to make sense. (See thread title)

[Miss I.]

Ah but that is the beauty of this forum Columbus. It doesn't have to make sense. (See thread title)

Yeah, whatever happened to that thread? I mean I am enjoying my tutorial on adult film terminology, but it seems this thread was Hijacked. Though to be fair, the original topic really just came from some random blog site, so not a lot to really go on with that.

[ak1971]

You have a well?

no Im a dude.

[ak1971]

Yeah, whatever happened to that thread? I mean I am enjoying my tutorial on adult film terminology, but it seems this thread was Hijacked. Though to be fair, the original topic really just came from some random blog site, so not a lot to really go on with that.

good look up 'blumpkin'

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk298/AK7745/tagteam2.gif

[Hotrod]

You have a well?


LOL I like her

[Miss I.]

good look up 'blumpkin'

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk298/AK7745/tagteam2.gif

1. That is disgusting.
2. That is really disgusting.
3. Now I must lose my lunch.

And oh yes, BTW, your avatar is causing a heat wave over here, lol.

[Needa Pass Rush]

no Im a dude.

A dude with a frontal system! (avatar) ROFL!

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/image.php?u=1714&dateline=1225221725

[Needa Pass Rush]

A dude with a frontal system! (avatar) ROFL!

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/image.php?u=1714&dateline=1225221725

That must be a democrat weatherman given what he's doing to Ohio! (and those racist rednecks in western PA!) ;)

[TheReverend]

A dude with a frontal system! (avatar) ROFL!

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/image.php?u=1714&dateline=1225221725

The tip is banging my birthplace... (NO mom jokes, please)

[ak1971]

The tip is banging my birthplace... (NO mom jokes, please)

I think WV is going to give him a nasty cut

[Miss I.]

A dude with a frontal system! (avatar) ROFL!

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/image.php?u=1714&dateline=1225221725

To quote a wisea%%, I mean wiseman I met at OM, "I'd hit that." ;D

[Needa Pass Rush]

To quote a wisea%%, I mean wiseman I met at OM, "I'd hit that." ;D

You like a good storm ???

[ak1971]

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk298/AK7745/bad_ass.gif

[Miss I.]

You like a good storm ???

Not exactly, but you know what they say, it isn't the color that matters, but the size that counts....Oh wait did I get that wrong... Probably need more adult film training. Darn.

[baja]

http://video.google.com/videosearch?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=ameros&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title#

[baja]

http://video.google.com/videosearch?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=ameros&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title#client=safari&rls=en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title&q=hal%20turner%20ameros&src=3

[baja]

http://www.amerocurrency.com/

[Miss I.]

http://www.amerocurrency.com/
Seems like a better source then the first thing, though I don't know how I feel about an Amero. I mean the Euro is pretty strong, but I don't know.

[ak1971]

Seems like a better source then the first thing, though I don't know how I feel about an Amero. I mean the Euro is pretty strong, but I don't know.

How about the Africano, or the Asino, or the Antarticao..

[Miss I.]

How about the Africano, or the Asino, or the Antarticao..

Dude, is this another google search that is going to send me to adult sites, because I blush very easily.:giggle:

[TheDave]

It not everyday that you can learn about Financial conspiracies, Pornstars weight, Blumpkins, people and their issues with friendship, and view a goat picture all in a couple of pages.

[Hotrod]

It not everyday that you can learn about Financial conspiracies, Pornstars weight, Blumpkins, people and their issues with friendship, and view a goat picture all in a couple of pages.

Let me guess you are here to tell us that carbon dating is real science???

Pft

[TheDave]

Let me guess you are here to tell us that carbon dating is real science???

Pft

Huh...


Sorry I was still mesmerized by the goat pic...;D

[Play2win]

Ya that's right saying George Bush has dastardly plans to wipe out USA's sovereignty is a stab at America. Are you really this fuucking stupid.

Anything to promote something that is critical (READ: Negative) of the USA, right... Keep on with your postings...

I just can't wait until Obama gets Elected, so then, maybe... you might say something, sort of, kinda, positive about AMERICA...

[orinjkrush]

so is it true Bush just bought a big ass ranch in paraguay (sp)?

[ak1971]

so is it true Bush just bought a big ass ranch in paraguay (sp)?

yes..that is where Baja and Meck are going to have the final reckoning.

[Miss I.]

It not everyday that you can learn about Financial conspiracies, Pornstars weight, Blumpkins, people and their issues with friendship, and view a goat picture all in a couple of pages.

It really is a unique thread, but can you imagine a title that ecapsulates all those things?

[watermock]

The coin pictured is 100 Ameros is, and shows 1oz. .999 troy silver.

Silver coins are priced around 25$ 100Ameros25$ 1 amero=25cents.

I guess we'll get around 25 cents on the dollar?

Better than paper, or is that just temporary, like 1964 siver quarters?

[baja]

Anything to promote something that is critical (READ: Negative) of the USA, right... Keep on with your postings...

I just can't wait until Obama gets Elected, so then, maybe... you might say something, sort of, kinda, positive about AMERICA...

Come on Dude there are many very great things about the USA even with all it's faults it is still the most open and cutting edge place on the planet. My problem has never been with American my problem is with the hijacked government we now have, for the life of me I can't understand why that is so hard to comprehend for some of you guys.


AMERICA = GOOD


BUSH GOVERNMENT = BAD FOR AMERICA & MOST AMERICANS

[baja]

so is it true Bush just bought a big ass ranch in paraguay (sp)?

Yes thousands of acres.

n Argentine official regarded the intention of the George W. Bush family to settle on the Acuifero Guarani (Paraguay) as surprising, besides being a bad signal for the governments of the region. Luis D Elia, undersecretary for the Social Habitat in the Argentine Federal Planning Ministry, issued a memo partially reproduced by digital INFOBAE.com, in which he spoke of the purchase by Bush of a 98,842-acre farm in northern Paraguay, between Brazil and Bolivia.

[DenverBrit]

Let me guess you are here to tell us that carbon dating is real science???

Pft


Who needs carbon dating when the earth is only 6000 years old?

[24champ]

It not everyday that you can learn about Financial conspiracies, Pornstars weight, Blumpkins, people and their issues with friendship, and view a goat picture all in a couple of pages.

I think our Currency should be in gold...what do you think Dave?:spit:

[watermock]

That Bush ranch is on top of the biggest aquifer in the world over the Amazon basin.

[baja]

That Bush ranch is on top of the biggest aquifer in the world over the Amazon basin.

Good observation someone is advising numb nuts bush wisely

[cutthemdown]

Dollar is getting stronger not weaker. The Amero is like some concept that is in total fantasyland. It is not going to happen people so just put your decoder books away and enjoy life spending dollars you don't have.

Just remember to make your monthly payments!!!!!!

Amero? Give me a break. Economic slowdown and maybe a couple quarters of recession does not a depression make. The world govt will do what they need to keep the economies growing. We are going to have bumps like this everyonce in awhile but until there is no food at the grocery store and the govt releases the killer virus Baja is still wrong.

This isn't total economic collapse and the end of the dollar.

[watermock]

Look at my post ne the previous page about the amero baja...

[watermock]

Our federal debt has doubled under Bush...

[baja]

Dollar is getting stronger not weaker. The Amero is like some concept that is in total fantasyland. It is not going to happen people so just put your decoder books away and enjoy life spending dollars you don't have.

Just remember to make your monthly payments!!!!!!

Amero? Give me a break. Economic slowdown and maybe a couple quarters of recession does not a depression make. The world govt will do what they need to keep the economies growing. We are going to have bumps like this everyonce in awhile but until there is no food at the grocery store and the govt releases the killer virus Baja is still wrong.

This isn't total economic collapse and the end of the dollar.

Wow that's good news thanks god.

[baja]

Our federal debt has doubled under Bush...

ya I saw that Mock. Maybe we should go squat on Bush's land in Paraguay and I'm only half joking. ;D

[watermock]

No, that Hal bit showed the 100 amero as 1oz.troy silver

[baja]

No, that Hal bit showed the 100 amero as 1oz.troy silver

Oh sorry I quoted the wrong post yes I saw that and it would make since, the consensus of articles say that one Amero would have only a fraction of the value that the current dollar has.

[Play2win]

Come on Dude there are many very great things about the USA even with all it's faults it is still the most open and cutting edge place on the planet. My problem has never been with American my problem is with the hijacked government we now have, for the life of me I can't understand why that is so hard to comprehend for some of you guys.


AMERICA = GOOD


BUSH GOVERNMENT = BAD FOR AMERICA & MOST AMERICANS

Yeah, I know... I can't stand BUSH at freakin' all either. I think he's the worst president the USA has ever had. He has done things to this country we are going to have work through for some time.

But have some faith, America has gone through way tougher times, and I am sure we will persevere this time too. As a matter of a fact, maybe some things that needed getting done will finally get done. Its a shame it had to take all this for them to get done, but we might better for it, in the long term. It might actually be in our eventual longterm best interests. That was part of the Framers' design, that this nation would have the ability to self-correct its own government. I have the faith and the optimism that it will.

I hope I wasn't too harsh (on these serious internets! ;D ), but its like, if you go each week to watch the Broncos game with the same crew, and one guy, a hard-core Broncos fan, all he seems to be doing lately is b!tchin' about how they suck, and everybody on the team sucks, and how all the coaches suck-- basically going Telluride on everybody's arse... Well at some point, its driving everybody sooo crazy. Everybody knows he a Die-Hard Bronco fan, but everyone is just sick of his crap. Everybody just want to say cut the crap out and just Root For the TEAM. Root for the Broncos Again!!

I guess thats kinda how I felt...

[baja]

Yeah, I know... I can't stand BUSH at freakin' all either. I think he's the worst president the USA has ever had. He has done things to this country we are going to have work through for some time.

But have some faith,<b> America has gone through way tougher times, </b>and I am sure we will persevere this time too. As a matter of a fact, maybe some things that needed getting done will finally get done. Its a shame it had to take all this for them to get done, but we might better for it, in the long term. It might actually be in our eventual longterm best interests. That was part of the Framers' design, that this nation would have the ability to self-correct its own government. I have the faith and the optimism that it will.

I hope I wasn't too harsh (on these serious internets! ;D ), but its like, if you go each week to watch the Broncos game with the same crew, and one guy, a hard-core Broncos fan, all he seems to be doing lately is b!tchin' about how they suck, and everybody on the team sucks, and how all the coaches suck-- basically going Telluride on everybody's arse... Well at some point, its driving everybody sooo crazy. Everybody knows he a Die-Hard Bronco fan, but everyone is just sick of his crap. Everybody just want to say cut the crap out and just Root For the TEAM. Root for the Broncos Again!!

I guess thats kinda how I felt...

I disagree with that bolded line I think the Bush administration is posing the greatest afront to our constitution ever.

As for the rest of you post concerning the future of the USA I sure hope you are right.

Well look at it this way I am only going to rail on the government for 83 more days ;D

[cutthemdown]

I disagree with that bolded line I think the Bush administration is posing the greatest afront to our constitution ever.

As for the rest of you post concerning the future of the USA I sure hope you are right.

Well look at it this way I am only going to rail on the government for 83 more days ;D

So that proves it. You are giving Obama a free ride no matter what. Good to know.

[baja]

So that proves it. You are giving Obama a free ride no matter what. Good to know.

No I am going to support him and watch what he does and if he screws up as Bush did I will be on him just as hard. What you don't get about me is I don't care about party I care about my country, it's precious constitution and how we conduct ourselves around the world.

[ak1971]

dont hijack this thread..todays sick term of the day is Davey Crockett

[Bronco Bob]

dont hijack this thread..todays sick term of the day is Davey Crockett

Speaking of mini-nukes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_(nuclear_device)

[Play2win]

I disagree with that bolded line I think the Bush administration is posing the greatest afront to our constitution ever.

As for the rest of you post concerning the future of the USA I sure hope you are right.

Well look at it this way I am only going to rail on the government for 83 more days ;D

Fair enough :)

Like I said before I can't wait until this page of our history has been turned and its on into the future.

I just hope a certain faction of the Repli-CON party just decays away. This has been a really UGLY period of our nation's history. It has brought out ugliness in many people. I just want the ugliness to cease! Like Obama says, "ENOUGH!!"...

I really think there were some darker day in this nation's past, most notably the week, months and years that both preceeded and followed the Civil War.

It is all relative to the time in which it took place. Like the old blues song, "Compared to What"...

I am just ready to move on and as soon as possible...

Here's to the USA regaining its standing in the world and good times ahead... (have a ginger ale on me :thumbsup:)

[ak1971]

Speaking of mini-nukes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_(nuclear_device)

its way nastier (its that a word??) than that

[ak1971]

ok ginta...heres the term of the day Arabian Goggles

[TheReverend]

Formal request that tomorrow's term of the day be: Pink Sock

[Rank&File]

I vote for The Cleveland Steamer on Sunday then.


I just gagged.ugh!~