What election day suprises will the Repubs do this year?

[Atlas]

Poll to follow

[ak1971]

Poll to follow

Im going to vote for Obama and then call everyone else a racist and a nazi.

[TailgateNut]

All of the above, and a few more.

[TailgateNut]

How about Sequoia not sending 11000 + absentee ballots which they said they mailed.

Right here in Denver were we also have that "Snake in the grass" Coffman.

[Hotrod]

When/If the dems lose the meltdown will be epic Ha!

[Atlas]

When/If the dems lose the meltdown will be epic Ha!

Yes it will. That will have made 3 elections in a row the Repubs have cheated their way in.

[Hotrod]

If you aint cheatin you aint tryin hard enough.

[TexanBob]

It's not the Republicans who have tried to register the roster of the Dallas Cowboys in about 20 states.

[Atlas]

If you aint cheatin you aint tryin hard enough.

Typical Republican statement. If that is the theory then why are their panties in such a wad over ACORN?

[Hotrod]

Typical Republican statement. If that is the theory then why are their panties in such a wad over ACORN?

Because you all got caught.

[Hotrod]

It's not the Republicans who have tried to register the roster of the Dallas Cowboys in about 20 states.

:thumbsup:

[Atlas]

It's not the Republicans who have tried to register the roster of the Dallas Cowboys in about 20 states.

It's not like those people would have voted. Just because they register doesn't mean they vote.

The reason all these fake people were registered was because the people who work for ACORN are typically poor. They get paid by how many peopl ethey register.... You follow?

It's not some grand democratic plot. It's just a bunch of people trying to scam themselves another $40.

[Hotrod]

It's not like those people would have voted. Just because they register doesn't mean they vote.

The reason all these fake people were registered was because the people who work for ACORN are typically poor. They get paid by how many peopl ethey register.... You follow? It's not some grand democratic plot. It's just a bunch of people trying to scam themselves another $40.

Atlas, It does matter. Probably not to the extent Fox news would like you to believe but # of registered voters is important. It could discourage some on the right from voting because "we already lost".

Hopefully all the over inflated egos on the left will cause just the opposite. We keep hearing how it is over and lets see how many young, college age new voters stand in long lines to vote.

[Bronco Bob]

It's not the Republicans who have tried to register the roster of the Dallas Cowboys in about 20 states.

And the Democrats haven't either.

[Hotrod]

The liberal owned media would have been smart to claim this race is very close. Keep the 20 something base of the socialist movement motivated.

[Bronco Bob]

Atlas, It does matter. Probably not to the extent Fox news would like you to believe but # of registered voters is important. It could discourage some on the right from voting because "we already lost".

Hopefully all the over inflated egos on the left will cause just the opposite. We keep hearing how it is over and lets see how many young, college age new voters stand in long lines to vote.

Experts who have examined the allegations against ACORN have concluded
that there is no significant threat of voter fraud. For the fraudulent
registration forms to turn into fraudulent votes, they would have had to
get through the election officials' vetting systems and make it onto the
voter rolls.

Next, someone would need to arrive at the assigned polling location with
valid identification that lists the same name and address as the fraudulent
registration. (This is fairly difficult to do if you're dead or named Mickey
Mouse.)

Then, having passed all these hurdles, that someone would cast a vote that
will cost him or her 10 years in jail. Just find me someone willing to spend
10 years in jail just for a chance to vote for Obama or McCain?

Let's look at the facts. ACORN labeled as "suspicious" the fraudulent
registration forms a few of its paid volunteers submitted. Moreover,
ACORN delivered them to election authorities under that heading.
ACORN offered to help election officials pursue prosecutions against
those who filled out the fraudulent forms.

The so-called ACORN scandal is no more than a few canvassers trying
to meet their quota and make easy money by cheating the system.

Ask yourself how likely is it that someone would go through the effort
and risk of submitting multiple false registration forms, find an accomplished
forger capable of producing IDs of sufficient quality to trick election officials,
and then spend Election Day racking up a couple extra votes at the potential
cost of spending a decade in jail?

A simple cost-benefit analysis tells us this is not a reasonable or significant
threat. The real threat here is the Republican Party using attacks on ACORN
as a calculated strategy to justify massive challenges to the votes cast in
Democratic-leaning voting precincts on Election Day. And this is what is truly
outrageous, but where is John McCain's concern when it comes to people
being harassed at the voting booth?

The same Republican Party shouting "Voter fraud!" is also furiously trying
to prevent Ohio from registering voters at early voting sites and suing to
shut down some early voting sites in Indiana.

Just as the GOP will use the so-called "Bradley effect" to explain away voting
irregularities it created through voter suppression, it will use allegations of
voter fraud to cover its efforts of voter suppression.

McCain and Republican candidates up and down the GOP ticket don't want
increased voter turnout.

[Rohirrim]

The liberal owned media would have been smart to claim this race is very close. Keep the 20 something base of the socialist movement motivated.

Is that the same media that I've watched Bush get the free ride on for eight years?

[Hotrod]

Is that the same media that I've watched Bush get the free ride on for eight years?

LOL nicely played sir

[Hotrod]

Experts who have examined the allegations against ACORN have concluded
that there is no significant threat of voter fraud. For the fraudulent
registration forms to turn into fraudulent votes, they would have had to
get through the election officials' vetting systems and make it onto the
voter rolls.

Next, someone would need to arrive at the assigned polling location with
valid identification that lists the same name and address as the fraudulent
registration. (This is fairly difficult to do if you're dead or named Mickey
Mouse.)

Then, having passed all these hurdles, that someone would cast a vote that
will cost him or her 10 years in jail. Just find me someone willing to spend
10 years in jail just for a chance to vote for Obama or McCain?

Let's look at the facts. ACORN labeled as "suspicious" the fraudulent
registration forms a few of its paid volunteers submitted. Moreover,
ACORN delivered them to election authorities under that heading.
ACORN offered to help election officials pursue prosecutions against
those who filled out the fraudulent forms.

The so-called ACORN scandal is no more than a few canvassers trying
to meet their quota and make easy money by cheating the system.

Ask yourself how likely is it that someone would go through the effort
and risk of submitting multiple false registration forms, find an accomplished
forger capable of producing IDs of sufficient quality to trick election officials,
and then spend Election Day racking up a couple extra votes at the potential
cost of spending a decade in jail?

A simple cost-benefit analysis tells us this is not a reasonable or significant
threat. The real threat here is the Republican Party using attacks on ACORN
as a calculated strategy to justify massive challenges to the votes cast in
Democratic-leaning voting precincts on Election Day. And this is what is truly
outrageous, but where is John McCain's concern when it comes to people
being harassed at the voting booth?

The same Republican Party shouting "Voter fraud!" is also furiously trying
to prevent Ohio from registering voters at early voting sites and suing to
shut down some early voting sites in Indiana.

Just as the GOP will use the so-called "Bradley effect" to explain away voting
irregularities it created through voter suppression, it will use allegations of
voter fraud to cover its efforts of voter suppression.

McCain and Republican candidates up and down the GOP ticket don't want
increased voter turnout.

Ok now did you want to touch on the fact that registered number of voters can have an effect?

[Bronco Bob]

Ok now did you want to touch on the fact that registered number of voters can have an effect?

Do you want to touch on the fact that a vast number of registered
voters are legitimate registered voters? Do you want to touch
on the fact the GOP operatives have purged thousands of legitmate
voters from the registration roles.

[Hotrod]

Do you want to touch on the fact that a vast number of registered
voters are legitimate registered voters? Do you want to touch
on the fact the GOP operatives have purged thousands of legitmate
voters from the registration roles.

Oh do tell how the hell did the GOP manage to purge legitimate voters?

[Bronco Bob]

Oh do tell how the hell did the GOP manage to purge legitimate voters?

You can't really be this ignorant, can you? To even ask such a question
leads me to think you are just trying to jerk our chains.

[Hotrod]

You can't really be this ignorant, can you? To even ask such a question
leads me to think you are just trying to jerk our chains.

I am offeneded by your accusation

[TailgateNut]

Coffman sued over voter purge
By Annette Espinoza
The Denver Post

Article Last Updated: 10/25/2008 08:39:06 PM MDT


Colorado Secretary of State Mike Coffman. (Denver Post | Brian Brainerd)Related
Oct 27:
Voter registration lawsuit set for Wednesday hearingOct 25:
Colo. secretary of state sued over voter purgesOct 10:
Colorado disputes voter purgeOct 9:
Coffman: Voter-purge article 'way off'Voters purged in Colorado, other key statesVoters purged in Colorado, other key statesA national voter protection group announced today that it is suing Colorado Secretary of State Mike Coffman for alleged illegal purging of voter rolls that has resulted in thousands of people being wrongly disenfranchised.

Advancement Project, filed the lawsuit Saturday on behalf of Colorado Common Cause, Mi Familia Vota, a voter registration group, and the Service Employees International Union (SEIU).

"These purge programs violate a federal law that is intended to protect eligible voters from being swept off the rolls," said Penda Hair, co-director of Advancement Project. "We felt that filing this action was the only way we could ensure that thousands of Colorado residents would not show up at the polls on Election Day only to find they could not participate in this historic national election."

Coffman issued a statement through his spokesman today taking issue with the lawsuit.

"Through consultation with the Attorney General's office, we believe Colorado has fully complied with all applicable voter registration laws and voter cancellation procedures," he said.

Earlier this month, the New York Times published a story saying that six swing states, including Colorado, may have illegally removed tens of thousands of voters from rolls or blocked them from registering.

Coffman said the report was "way off."But in reviewing voter rolls, he said his office discovered there were 2,454 duplicate voter registrations canceled within 90 days of the November election. Coffman asked for an opinion from Colorado Attorney General John Suthers, who said canceling the duplicate registrations did not violate the law because those voters would be eligible to vote under their current voter registrations.

Coffman also acknowledged that another 4,000 or so voters were given bad information about when their registrations had to be completed, and said they have been contacted with the correct information.

Democrats have been critcal of Coffman, saying their figures do not match the Republican official's. Suthers is a fellow Republican.

"So many names have been purged, the injunction is to get them reinstated," said Dawn Le, spokeswoman with Service Employees International Union Local No. 105. "What happens when people turn up at the polls and are turned away?"

The lawsuit seeks to "prevent any more voters from being purged from the list of eligible voters for any reason not allowed by the National Voting Rights Act (NVRA).It also seeks to "identify and reinstate any and all voters who were improperly purged from the official list of registered voters during the 90-day no-purge period, except those exempted by the NVRA."

Annette Espinoza: 303-954-1655 or aespinoza@denverpost.com

[TailgateNut]

More than 11,000 ballots went missing when the vendor in charge of printing the ballots, Sequoia Voting Systems, reported delivering 21,450 ballots to a Denver mail processing facility on Oct. 16, but the U.S. Postal Service said they only received 10,364 ballots that day.

Stephanie O'Malley, Denver's clerk and recorder, led an investigation by the Denver Elections Division that discovered Sequoia Voting Systems didn't prepare the mail-in ballots because of a technical problem with a data file.

This one little mistake represents over 5% of the 186,000 mail-in ballots requested in Denver!

But it gets worse. The Denver Elections Division doesn't even require that the out-of-state vendor Sequoia Voting Systems deliver the ballots to the Elections Division for inspection prior to mailing! The ballots are actually produced by Sequoia and delivered directly to USPS for mailing without the Denver Elections Division ever taking physical possession of the ballots to verify they are printed correctly and in the correct quantity!

These ballots are literally drop-shipped directly from Sequoia Voting Systems to voters (or not) without the Elections Division having to be bothered with any pesky details surrounding quality control of the process or the physical ballots.

Despite this ineffective hands-off approach adopted by the Elections Division, Denver County Clerk and Recorder Stephanie O'Malley refuses to accept any responsibility:

"Be patient with us. We certainly apologize for the delay, but it's certainly not one that we had any control over," said O'Malley.

There you have it folks - not only does the Elections Division never take possession of the ballots to perform even a cursory quality inspection, they actually disavow having any control over the situation. According to the Denver Clerk and Recorder, it is totally out of their hands - quite literally. This is an absolute OUTRAGE!

The problem was finally reported by the US Postal Service (not by the Elections Division nor the vendor involved) and over one week after the incomplete batch of ballots were submitted for mailing.

Now that the USPS has kindly identified the problem, Sequoia will make yet another attempt at printing and mailing the ballots while Clerk and Recorder Stephanie O'Malley reminds us to be patient and keep in mind that nobody that should have control over the process in fact does.

And according to the Denver Clerk's News Release of Oct 25, they are still not going to receive and inspect the ballots prior to mailing! Good grief.

Likewise, I can report that the Obama Campaign for Change office in Parker, Colorado told me last night that there have been numerous reports of lost mail-in ballots in nearby Douglas County, Colorado. I partially fact-checked this by briefly phone banking at their office and in just a few minutes spoke with a voter who had not received her ballot even though the public record showed it had been mailed weeks before.

Any Colorado voter who has already signed up for a mail-in ballot but has not received one, should immediately contact your county clerk's office to verify the status.

[Garcia Bronco]

A concession speech?

[Garcia Bronco]

I am offeneded by your accusation

In Robert's world, everytime the Republicans win there had to be some crime perpetuated. I noticed he didn't say that when Hilldog lost to Obama.

(No more Clinton's or Bush's)

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

It's not the Republicans who have tried to register the roster of the Dallas Cowboys in about 20 states.

ACORN doesn't register anyone to vote, dumbass - secretaries of states do.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

North Carolina's Undervote Problem (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/27/opinion/27mon2.html)

[gunns]

Atlas, It does matter. Probably not to the extent Fox news would like you to believe but # of registered voters is important. It could discourage some on the right from voting because "we already lost".

Hopefully all the over inflated egos on the left will cause just the opposite. We keep hearing how it is over and lets see how many young, college age new voters stand in long lines to vote.

Yeah, this is the reason McCain's poll numbers are lower. Bingo!

Repugs think the only way they can lose is by claiming fraud. Hint: that's how they won.

No wonder our country is in the state it is.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Yeah, this is the reason McCain's poll numbers are lower. Bingo!

Repugs think the only way they can lose is by claiming fraud. Hint: that's how they won.

No wonder our country is in the state it is.

Yep - when they lost both chambers of Congress in '06, that was someone else's fault too.

That's republi-con SOP: never, ever admit you are wrong or that you've screwed up.

[SJ Bronco]

I hope that answers the question for dork...errrr......dortch.

[Rohirrim]

Republicans? On Nov. 4th?
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[Paladin]

It's not the Republicans who have tried to register the roster of the Dallas Cowboys in about 20 states.

That's cause you're not bright enough. Not our fault.....

[orinjkrush]

we don't have enough fire brigades if the Dems loose.

torch the porch and emigrate to the caymans

[Paladin]

I am offeneded by your accusation

Ah, h3ll, hotrod, get over yourself....

[Paladin]

If McNasty actually wins, I hope they keep him healthy for the full four years. Two reasons: they will deserve what they lose, and 2, Palin would be trying to help him lose his marbles. No question there would be a very loud reaction, I would not be surprised to see some serious reactions from a number of sources.....

You think the media is biased against McNasty now, think of what it could be like then in that alternative reality......

[SJ Bronco]

Republicans? On Nov. 4th?
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LOL! someone tell me why this is still so damn funny......

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

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[BABronco]

Voter machine malfunctions ... its happening already.:welcome:

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

The Toxic GOP and Its Just Desserts

Tue, 10/28/2008 - 5:19am. P.M. Carpenter (http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/carpenter) THE FIFTH COLUMNIST by P.M. Carpenter
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Here we are, still a week to go, and analyses of why John McCain lost versus how John McCain can win are outpacing print and cable-network commentaries by at least a 10 to 1 ratio. And that's being generous.

Even the professionally poltroonish are "going rogue." For example I saw number-cruncher Charlie Cook making the rounds again last night on cable and public tv, and the man was downright dazed -- in fact, he was awestruck and reveling in the unmistakable throes of some sort of weird, statistical transubstantiation.

"Sure, it's not over," Cook drooled, "it's never over till it's actually over, but I mean, come on, on the other hand, it's over." That, at least, is a close approximation of words from an analyst I single out for a reason: Charlie makes his living by being cautious and noncommittal. He wouldn't have a political report to vend very long if he took risks. But calling this race, he no longer regards as risky.

What did the trick as much or more than anything were the numbers being beamed out of the Old Dominion. "By wide margins," reports the Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/26/AR2008102602504_pf.html) on its latest poll, "Virginia voters think that Obama is the candidate who would do more to bring needed change to Washington, who understands the economic challenges people are facing and who is the more honest and trustworthy of the two rivals."

In short, Obama beats McCain among Virginians in virtually every category of contemporary concern.

But it's the geographical twist within that tells the deeper story -- indeed, the national story.

Perhaps unsurprising is that Obama "has an almost 2 to 1 advantage over McCain in Northern Virginia." But get this: "He and McCain each drew 48 percent of the vote outside Northern Virginia."

That's stunning, and indeed it's what has stunned the Charlie Cooks of this world and has them forecasting with unaccustomed confidence and bravado. "Outside Northern Virginia" -- otherwise once known as the reliable land of George W. Bush, Protector of Real America.

Now? It's gone as rogue as Sarah Palin. Like that Saturday Night Live skit, in McCain's face Virginia at large sees the face of Bush. And it ain't pretty.
Which leads, of course, to just about the only interesting question left in this presidential campaign. And that question is: In what ways did McCain himself contribute to his impending disaster?

I have already weighed in on the potentially, politically restorative matter of the bailout bail -- in failing to demagogue against it, McCain blew it -- and have noted as well, on occasion, the McCain camp's most curious and indeed singular strategy of assiduously playing to the conservative base, which was in full and disorganized retreat well before the stock market's Black Monday, Black Tuesday, Black Wednesday and so forth.

Yet in playing to that base there came an inherent and even inexorable substrategy: Going not roguish, or mavericky, but really, really nasty. And that, I think, was as responsible for McCain's doom as George W. Bush and his catastrophic economy.

Consider for a moment the gothic mental architecture of Donna Tilley, 58, a full-fledged member in excellent standing of John McCain's Virginia base: "I honestly believe Obama is a socialist, a Chicago thug," she told the Washington Post.

Now, it almost goes without saying that Donna would not enthusiastically and honestly believe that Obama is a thuggish Chicago socialist if the McCain campaign hadn't felt compelled to inform Donna that Obama is a thuggish Chicago socialist. That much is a given.

The key word in that passage, however, is "compelled." Donna, you see -- not George W. Bush -- (and if I hereby overstate slightly, it's only to make a necessary point) has become a significant face of the conservative base: wretchedly ignorant and hopelessly malicious. Hence when McCain decided to pander to the base, the only way he could gin it up was through cranking up the volumes of ignorance and malice.

I don't think McCain wanted that. I think he sincerely desired something resembling an honorable campaign, just as he once promised. But once he committed the fatal mistake of committing to the venomous conservative core, the above substrategy naturally and ineluctably followed.

His base had come to demand red, raw meat. It's addicted to it. It doesn't just thrive on it; it now requires it for motivation, otherwise things just don't feel "right."

This wasn't the year for that. Reality intruded, and it's likely to intrude for a long, long time. Which leaves the GOP of tomorrow with two options: either remain an irrelevant, malicious minority or detoxify as well as expand its base through massive infusions of moderation.

[Hotrod]

I hope that answers the question for dork...errrr......dortch.

And I thought we were friends :nono:

[Hotrod]

Ah, h3ll, hotrod, get over yourself....

I am offended by this as well.

[Paladin]

Good.

[Garcia Bronco]

It's in the DNC handbook to claim voter intimidation of minorites.

[Hotrod]

Good.

Ha!

[Bob]

The expectation of widespread fraud is at the core of what is wrong with the loonie left. This feeling is also grwoing on the right as well -- less and less trust of the government when we may need it the most. There are cases on both sides of fraud but when we assume the worst in those of a different political stripe, then we are bound to find it.

I hope -- if the "surprise" is that more folks decide that Obama would lead this country away from what the founding Fathers wanted, and if the media was not able to snooker the American public, that the left will respect the will of the people and not assume that the election was stolen. I will do the same, and as long as Obama respects my Consititional rights I will respect him as my leader.

Some of you guys have gone down such a weird path,and have contracted BRS (Bush Rage Syndrome) that unless you get what you want you assume that everyone else sees the world the same way. If you dont like who is in charge vote them out, if one voting has become corrupted somehow, fix it -- not by constantly doing things that are going to cause riots if people become convinced they were wronged, even when not wrong was done. Things need to be cleaned up, but Not every levy is blown up by government, not every bridge, not every building, not every election is stolen. Over and Out.

[orinjkrush]

hmmm, you can fool ALL the people some of the time...

sieg heil.

[Bob]

Typical Republican statement. If that is the theory then why are their panties in such a wad over ACORN?

Fraud is on both sides, time to cleanup teh process so all can trust teh results -- I still think it is basicly fair, but one has to TRY to be consistant, as hard as that might be.

[Bronco Bob]

It's in the DNC handbook to claim voter intimidation of minorites.

It's in the RNC handbook to intimidate minorities.

[Bob]

It's in the DNC handbook to claim voter intimidation of minorites.

I do wonder what will happen if Obama does loose next week -- the media and various polls have created the expectation that if he somehow lost -- it would have to be because the R's stole it. I think that McCain has a chance but if McCain looses -- I wont be throwing any laptops, it is what it is.

[rastaman]

??? When/If the dems lose the meltdown will be epic Ha!

What's wrong, two consecutive stolen elections isn't enough for the Knuckle Dragging conservatives and GOP.

[Bob]

It's in the RNC handbook to intimidate minorities.

And at what percentage? Any percentage is too high, but I think this is again mostly a creation to make folks feel they were wronged when then they were not, again something that could increase the chances for riots if he Obama is not as popular as the media has thought.

[Bob]

???

What's wrong, two consecutive stolen elections isn't enough for the Knuckle Dragging conservatives and GOP.

Whats wrong: is your inability to conceed loss because of idology above facts.

[rastaman]

And I thought we were friends :nono:

Republicans do no have any friends.:thumbsup:

[rastaman]

Whats wrong: is your inability to conceed loss because of idology above facts.

Yo Bob....surely you don't believe Bush won in 2000 and 2004....do you???

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Vote flipping in 3 states so far

Why does an Obama vote register for McCain?

(http://machinist.salon.com/blog/2008/10/27/early_voting/index.html?source=newsletter)Link (http://machinist.salon.com/blog/2008/10/27/early_voting/index.html?source=newsletter)

Excerpt:

Voters in at least two West Virginia counties -- Jackson and Putnam -- say electronic voting machines are switching their votes from Democrats to Republicans.

The two county clerks, both Republicans, say they don't think there's a problem. But these voting problems have gotten the attention of everyone from CNN to that Hillary-hating Huffington Post.

So far, eight voters from Jackson and Putnam counties have come forward to say their electronic voting machines kept changing their votes from Democrats to Republicans -- usually, from Obama to McCain.

[Bronco Bob]

Vote flipping in 3 states so far

Why does an Obama vote register for McCain?

(http://machinist.salon.com/blog/2008/10/27/early_voting/index.html?source=newsletter)Link (http://machinist.salon.com/blog/2008/10/27/early_voting/index.html?source=newsletter)

Excerpt:

Voters in at least two West Virginia counties -- Jackson and Putnam -- say electronic voting machines are switching their votes from Democrats to Republicans.

The two county clerks, both Republicans, say they don't think there's a problem. But these voting problems have gotten the attention of everyone from CNN to that Hillary-hating Huffington Post.

So far, eight voters from Jackson and Putnam counties have come forward to say their electronic voting machines kept changing their votes from Democrats to Republicans -- usually, from Obama to McCain.

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[Bronco Bob]

The interesting thing is where I work we have a touch screen that
controls the audio/visual equipment. Tap one place on the screen
and it turns the video projector on. Tap another place and it turns
the porjector off. Tap another place and it brings up another menu
which lets you tap for a computer, a VCR, a DVD player, or even to
control a slide projector. We've had this system for 10 years now,
and it always works correctly. I don't recall anyone ever hitting
the VCR pad and turning on the DVD, and those two pads are
right next to each other. You mean to tell me that expensive
new voting machines are not as good as a cheap commercial
10 years old touch screen for controlling a video projector?
And besides, if it were merely a machine problem the law of
averages would mean an equal number of votes would go
Dem or Pub, not just always go Pub.

[baja]

Vote flipping in 3 states so far

Why does an Obama vote register for McCain?

(http://machinist.salon.com/blog/2008/10/27/early_voting/index.html?source=newsletter)Link (http://machinist.salon.com/blog/2008/10/27/early_voting/index.html?source=newsletter)

Excerpt:

Voters in at least two West Virginia counties -- Jackson and Putnam -- say electronic voting machines are switching their votes from Democrats to Republicans.

The two county clerks, both Republicans, say they don't think there's a problem. But these voting problems have gotten the attention of everyone from CNN to that Hillary-hating Huffington Post.

So far, eight voters from Jackson and Putnam counties have come forward to say their electronic voting machines kept changing their votes from Democrats to Republicans -- usually, from Obama to McCain.

I said a long time ago Mccain would appear to win the election and they will say it was due to the Brady principal.

We should have a coalition of foreign representatives to monitor the election like they do in 3rd world countries. That's how untrustworthy this election process has become, sad.

[baja]

The interesting thing is where I work we have a touch screen that
controls the audio/visual equipment. Tap one place on the screen
and it turns the video projector on. Tap another place and it turns
the porjector off. Tap another place and it brings up another menu
which lets you tap for a computer, a VCR, a DVD player, or even to
control a slide projector. We've had this system for 10 years now,
and it always works correctly. I don't recall anyone ever hitting
the VCR pad and turning on the DVD, and those two pads are
right next to each other. You mean to tell me that expensive
new voting machines are not as good as a cheap commercial
10 years old touch screen for controlling a video projector?
And besides, if it were merely a machine problem the law of
averages would mean an equal number of votes would go
Dem or Pub, not just always go Pub.

Yes the computer will do as it is programed that's the point numb skull.

HBO and other sources showed just how easy and undetectable it is to change large blocks of votes. If McCain wins it will be by DieBolt fraud.

And before you scream I am already claiming fraud if Obama does not win keep in mind it is days to the election and Obama has a double digit lead.

[Atlas]

I said a long time ago Mccain would appear to win the election and they will say it was due to the Brady principal.

We should have a coalition of foreign representatives to monitor the election like they do in 3rd world countries. That's how untrustworthy this election process has become, sad.

Now I'm worried. Can you imagine if we had about 3 or 4 thrid world countries come and monitor our elections!! LOL

[baja]

Now I'm worried. Can you imagine if we had about 3 or 4 thrid world countries come and monitor our elections!! LOL

I see your reading comprehension has not improved any. I say let the Germans do it. ;D

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

The interesting thing is where I work we have a touch screen that
controls the audio/visual equipment. Tap one place on the screen
and it turns the video projector on. Tap another place and it turns
the porjector off. Tap another place and it brings up another menu
which lets you tap for a computer, a VCR, a DVD player, or even to
control a slide projector. We've had this system for 10 years now,
and it always works correctly. I don't recall anyone ever hitting
the VCR pad and turning on the DVD, and those two pads are
right next to each other. You mean to tell me that expensive
new voting machines are not as good as a cheap commercial
10 years old touch screen for controlling a video projector?

Yep - that's about as believable as the notion that a company can make ATMs which provide customers with printed transaction receipts but can't design a voting machine that does the same thing.



And besides, if it were merely a machine problem the law of
averages would mean an equal number of votes would go
Dem or Pub, not just always go Pub.

Ding ding ding. :yep:

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

New Mexico GOP Sued For Voter Intimidation (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/27/new-mexico-gop-sued-for-v_n_138199.html)

CNN phrases it as "some" voters in Georgia purged from the rolls. Try 50,000 voters at least (http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/26/voter.suppression/index.html)

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Greg Palast: Drinking the ACORN Kool-Aid: How Cries of Voter Fraud Cover Up GOP Elections Theft 10/29 (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr-and-greg-palast/drinking-the-acorn-koolai_b_138390.html)

Stolen Elections And Media Blackouts -- an Interview with Mark Crispin Miller 10/29 (http://www.countercurrents.org/baker271008.htm)

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

GOP in action: Phony flier says Virginians vote on different days 10/29 (http://hamptonroads.com/2008/10/phony-flier-says-virginians-vote-different-days)

[rastaman]

Simply put.........2000, 2004 and 2008 will prove Republicans can't win without cheating. Nothing like moving back the goal post and getting 8 downs to score a touch down or kick a FG. Welcome to Fascist Republican Politics.

Hence:

1) Repubilcan voter caging
2) Republican voter suppression
3) Republican voter purging
4) Republican voter fraud
5) Republican Election fraud
6) Republican Diebold vote flipping machines

Sheeeesh! What won't these corrupt GOP bastards not do to steal Democracy!!!

[Play2win]

Simply put.........2000, 2004 and 2008 will prove Republicans can't win without cheating. Nothing like moving back the goal post and getting 8 downs to score a touch down or kick a FG. Welcome to Fascist Republican Politics.

Hence:

1) Repubilcan voter caging
2) Republican voter suppression
3) Republican voter purging
4) Republican voter fraud
5) Republican Election fraud
6) Republican Diebold vote flipping machines

Sheeeesh! What won't these corrupt GOP bastards not do to steal Democracy!!!

Strictly speaking, Republicans use Fascist tactic during (especially presidential) election campaigns.

[Rohirrim]

"This doesn't happen in America! Maybe in Ohio, but not in America!"
Homer Simpson

;D

[Atlas]

New Mexico GOP Sued For Voter Intimidation (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/27/new-mexico-gop-sued-for-v_n_138199.html)

CNN phrases it as "some" voters in Georgia purged from the rolls. Try 50,000 voters at least (http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/26/voter.suppression/index.html)

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Greg Palast: Drinking the ACORN Kool-Aid: How Cries of Voter Fraud Cover Up GOP Elections Theft 10/29 (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr-and-greg-palast/drinking-the-acorn-koolai_b_138390.html)

Stolen Elections And Media Blackouts -- an Interview with Mark Crispin Miller 10/29 (http://www.countercurrents.org/baker271008.htm)

Jesus ****ing christ!!

[Bronco Bob]

Yes the computer will do as it is programed that's the point numb skull.


Yes, that was my whole point, numb skull, that if a touch screen is
favoring one candidate over another, more than the laws of chance
would give, then it is because someone is manipulating the program.
The touch screens we use to control our A/V equipment are
programmed to turn on a certain piece of equipment depending on
what area of the screen is pressed. So if some pressed an area
for the Democratic candidate, and it registers for the Republican
candidate, it's been programmed to do it.

[Bronco Bob]

I see your reading comprehension has not improved any. I say let the Germans do it. ;D

Yours doesn't seem to be all that hot either.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Ohio Voters Are Wary of the Integrity of the Election

First-time Ohio voters may be forgiven if they have forgotten the problems and controversies concerning the 2004 Ohio election, but older voters rember them well (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/29/AR2008102904545.html?hpid=topnews). Republicans are worried about ineligible voters casting a ballot and Democrats are worried about eligible voters being denied the right to vote. In truth there is hardly any evidence (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/washington/12fraud.html) that many ineligible voters have ever voted. In fact, this issue was the heart of the U.S. attorneys scandal, when the Bush administration pushed many U.S. attorneys to prosecute voter fraud and the attorneys argued there really wasn't any fraud to prosecute, which prompted the administration to fire (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/14/washington/14justice.html?_r=1&oref=login&pagewanted=all) a number of them.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Republican Operatives Step Up Attempts to Purge Voters 10/30 (http://blog.aflcio.org/2008/10/27/republican-operatives-step-up-attempts-to-purge-voters/)

McCain Miami Rally, Getting Ugly Down Here (http://www.buzzflash.net/story.php?id=77170)

Sadly, racism alive and well at Palin event 10/29 (http://www.telluridenews.com/opinions/letters_to_the_editor/x270981588/Sadly-racism-alive-and-well-at-Palin-eventhttp://www.telluridenews.com/opinions/letters_to_the_editor/x270981588/Sadly-racism-alive-and-well-at-Palin-event)

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Vote-Flipping Diebold Machine Removed, Quarantined in CO 10/31 (http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6592)

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Good news:

Jason Leopold: "Despite pressure from Ohio Republicans and President George W. Bush, the Justice Department has declined to intervene in a voter dispute in Ohio that could have purged at least 200,000 voters from registration rolls." 11/1 (http://www.consortiumnews.com/2008/103108c.html)

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Exclusive: U.S. Expects Bin Laden Message Near Election

Analysts: OBL Could Speak Out in an Effort to Prove His Relevance


By PIERRE THOMAS
Oct. 30, 2008
http://a.abcnews.com/images/Site/byline_abcnews.gif

(http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/comments?type=story&id=6148984)
<script type="text/javascript">var addthis_pu</script>Multiple senior government officials tell ABC News the intelligence community is anticipating a message from Osama bin Laden before or just after the presidential election.
http://a.abcnews.com/images/Blotter/osama_bin_laden_070425_mn.jpgThe U.S. intelligence community expects to see a message from Osama bin Laden near the presidential election, multiple senior government officials tell ABC News.

As we race toward Election Day (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5968910&page=1), sources say a number of intelligence analysts have concluded it is critical for al Qaeda's top leader to be seen or heard, if only for public relations purposes. Those analysts believe that if bin Laden is not heard from, he runs the risk of being considered irrelevant or impotent. The U.S. intelligence community has some indication that there is some confusion among Islamic radicals about their leadership.

According to sources, the full weight of the intelligence electronic eavesdropping and human sourcing is right now desperately looking for any hint of a bin Laden statement. So far there is only rumor, no hard evidence a message is coming, officials said.

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=6148984&page=1

[Atlas]

Simply put.........2000, 2004 and 2008 will prove Republicans can't win without cheating. Nothing like moving back the goal post and getting 8 downs to score a touch down or kick a FG. Welcome to Fascist Republican Politics.

Hence:

1) Repubilcan voter caging
2) Republican voter suppression
3) Republican voter purging
4) Republican voter fraud
5) Republican Election fraud
6) Republican Diebold vote flipping machines

Sheeeesh! What won't these corrupt GOP bastards not do to steal Democracy!!!


Stealing elections is really the only thing they do with any real competence.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

The GOP Created Scare Tactic Myth of Virtually Non-Existent Voter Fraud. The Real Voter Fraud is the Active Republican Conspiracy to Suppress Non-GOP Votes. 11/3 (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/15155.html)

[SoCalBronco]

Exclusive: U.S. Expects Bin Laden Message Near Election

Analysts: OBL Could Speak Out in an Effort to Prove His Relevance


By PIERRE THOMAS
Oct. 30, 2008
http://a.abcnews.com/images/Site/byline_abcnews.gif

(http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/comments?type=story&id=6148984)
<script type="text/javascript">var addthis_pu</script>Multiple senior government officials tell ABC News the intelligence community is anticipating a message from Osama bin Laden before or just after the presidential election.
http://a.abcnews.com/images/Blotter/osama_bin_laden_070425_mn.jpgThe U.S. intelligence community expects to see a message from Osama bin Laden near the presidential election, multiple senior government officials tell ABC News.

As we race toward Election Day (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5968910&page=1), sources say a number of intelligence analysts have concluded it is critical for al Qaeda's top leader to be seen or heard, if only for public relations purposes. Those analysts believe that if bin Laden is not heard from, he runs the risk of being considered irrelevant or impotent. The U.S. intelligence community has some indication that there is some confusion among Islamic radicals about their leadership.

According to sources, the full weight of the intelligence electronic eavesdropping and human sourcing is right now desperately looking for any hint of a bin Laden statement. So far there is only rumor, no hard evidence a message is coming, officials said.

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=6148984&page=1


Eh, its a bit late for that. There's only one more day left. I doubt OBL says anything.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Hawaii: There Goes One Right Wing Psychotic Talking Obsession: "The state's Department of Health director on Friday released a statement verifying the legitimacy of Sen. Barack Obama birth certificate." 11/3 (http://www.wmtw.com/politics/17866059/detail.html)

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner has recently gotten death threats and the Secretary of State's Web site was hacked last week. Her office was even sent a package covered with threatening messages and containing a mysterious white powder. Brunner has had her priorities straight from the start. The motto emblazoned on the top of her campaign site says it all: "Participation is the fullest measure of democracy." (http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/honors/089)

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

The Department of Justice’s internal watchdogs are investigating who told the Associated Press that the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), a grassroots group that has registered hundreds of thousands of new voters, is under federal investigation for alleged voter registration fraud, according to John Conyers, the Democratic chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. The DOJ’s inspector general and Office of Professional Responsibility, according to Conyers, are probing the leak. We'll see. The DOJ continues to be a Bushevik whitewash operation. 11/2 (http://www.pubrecord.org/law/449-dojs-internal-watchdogs-probing-leak-of-acorn-investigation.html)

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Bogus Robocall Tells Floridians They Can Vote By Phone 11/3 (http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/10/bogus-robocall.html)

[watermock]

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[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Tool Developed to Detect Possible Fraud in Election Tabulating Software 11/3 (http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6587)