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Gort
08-26-2015, 02:34 PM
Possibly the most unprofessional handling short of telling the guy to GFY. I mean, first you give the guy who doesn't get the job that news in private. You don't speechify how you "have to be a professional" and be ready to play and handle this well crap. What a dick move frankly. It was really patronizing. The coach is an asshat. Just because these guys aren't Tom Brady or Peyton Manning or a top tier QB, doesn't mean you talk to them like they are in high school.

I'm already imaginging someone having this conversation with Manning, "Hey Peyton, you need to be a professional. You're 87 years old and the Orange Mane wants to see Brock play so go sit your butt on the bench and be professional and hold Brock's clip board and shine Siemian's helmet.. Now GTFO.

the only question the Mane would need answered first is... what's gonna be his cap hit in 2064?

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Shananahan
08-26-2015, 02:39 PM
Possibly the most unprofessional handling short of telling the guy to GFY. I mean, first you give the guy who doesn't get the job that news in private.
Yeah this. I hope this kinda stuff never, ever comes to Denver.

Gort
08-26-2015, 02:40 PM
Yeah this. I hope this kinda stuff never, ever comes to Denver.

http://www.stateofthesport.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/joshmcdaniels4.jpg

ColoradoDarin
08-26-2015, 03:30 PM
http://www.stateofthesport.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/joshmcdaniels4.jpg

At least it didn't stay long and Elway shoveled that sh*t outta here.

Shananahan
08-26-2015, 04:06 PM
I like that Williams trade for New England. Savvy. I wish Denver constantly explored outside-the-box thinking like that more often.

DENVERDUI55
08-26-2015, 05:21 PM
Awwwwwkward and handled poorly IMO.

Another mediocre Hoody wannabe coach. I didn't really have a problem with it though.

Maleficent
08-26-2015, 06:40 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I believe <a href="https://twitter.com/Recovery_Water">@Recovery_Water</a> helped prevent me from getting a concussion based on a bad hit! 😇 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NanoBubbles?src=hash">#NanoBubbles</a></p>&mdash; Russell Wilson (@DangeRussWilson) <a href="https://twitter.com/DangeRussWilson/status/636649695952039936">August 26, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Shameful and unethical

Gutless Drunk
08-26-2015, 06:45 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">49ers’ Ahmad Brooks charged with sexual battery; Ray McDonald indicted on rape charge <a href="http://t.co/A0PYUbdSgq">http://t.co/A0PYUbdSgq</a></p>&mdash; Around The NFL (@AroundTheNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AroundTheNFL/status/636697937406525440">August 27, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Agamemnon
08-26-2015, 07:04 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I believe <a href="https://twitter.com/Recovery_Water">@Recovery_Water</a> helped prevent me from getting a concussion based on a bad hit! 😇 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NanoBubbles?src=hash">#NanoBubbles</a></p>&mdash; Russell Wilson (@DangeRussWilson) <a href="https://twitter.com/DangeRussWilson/status/636649695952039936">August 26, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Shameful and unethical

Does he have a stake in the company or something?

ColoradoDarin
08-26-2015, 07:13 PM
Another mediocre Hoody wannabe coach. I didn't really have a problem with it though.

He basically handled it the worst possibly way he could:

Hey Ryan - I'm not gonna say you suck, even though you do, but he's just a bit better. So be ready in case he sucks for 8 games.

Hey Brian - You're just a very tiny bit better than that cheese d*ck over there, but I'm going slam your confidence right now because I don't really believe in you. Hope that helps your play next week.

IndelibleScribe
08-26-2015, 07:16 PM
Watching this in the moment makes you realize just how tough a situation like this can be:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HardKnocks?src=hash">#HardKnocks</a> takes you behind-the-scenes as Bill O’Brien tells his QBs who won the <a href="https://twitter.com/HoustonTexans">@HoustonTexans</a>’ starting gig. <a href="http://t.co/VdXJJLQRBQ">http://t.co/VdXJJLQRBQ</a></p>&mdash; NFL (@NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL/status/636565028359942144">August 26, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Too many like's used by O'Brien. As if he doesn't know quite how sure of his decision he is.
Probably has more to do with the potential reaction of the QB's involved.

IndelibleScribe
08-26-2015, 07:18 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">49ers’ Ahmad Brooks charged with sexual battery; Ray McDonald indicted on rape charge <a href="http://t.co/A0PYUbdSgq">http://t.co/A0PYUbdSgq</a></p>&mdash; Around The NFL (@AroundTheNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AroundTheNFL/status/636697937406525440">August 27, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Yeah, Harbaugh was the problem. Hilarious!

DENVERDUI55
08-26-2015, 07:18 PM
Too many like's used by O'Brien. As if he doesn't know quite how sure of his decision he is.
Probably has more to do with the potential reaction of the QB's involved.

I think he thinks they are both dog ****.

IndelibleScribe
08-26-2015, 07:22 PM
I think he thinks they are both dog ****.

It's obvious to anyone that Hoyer is a stop gap measure unless he wows during the season.
Savage is the guy they are hanging their hats on, he needs so much seasoning that they cannot rely on him yet.

Drunken.Broncoholic2
08-26-2015, 07:42 PM
Yeah, Harbaugh was the problem. Hilarious!




What's hilarious is York stressed they wanted to win with class. Then goes and gets a player like Jerome Simpson. It's been nothing but class this entire offseason.

Maleficent
08-26-2015, 07:43 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I believe <a href="https://twitter.com/Recovery_Water">@Recovery_Water</a> helped prevent me from getting a concussion based on a bad hit! 😇 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NanoBubbles?src=hash">#NanoBubbles</a></p>&mdash; Russell Wilson (@DangeRussWilson) <a href="https://twitter.com/DangeRussWilson/status/636649695952039936">August 26, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Shameful and unethical

Russell Wilson credits water with his recovery from big hit

The Seattle Seahawks' improbable comeback in last season's NFC Championship Game was even more improbable considering the hit to the head quarterback Russell Wilson took in the second quarter.

Green Bay Packers linebacker Clay Matthews' blindside block on Wilson looked bad enough to knock the quarterback out of the game. But, Wilson returned on the next series and led the Seahawks to an overtime victory. He didn’t miss a practice leading up to the Super Bowl.

How'd he do it?

According to Wilson, it was the healing properties of a sports drink, one in which he invests. The story, presented without commentary, goes like this:

In a feature that appears in the latest issue of Rolling Stone, Wilson credits his recovery from that head injury to Reliant Recovery Water.

"I banged my head during the Packers game in the playoffs, and the next day I was fine," Wilson said in the story. "It was the water."

The story notes that Wilson, who is an investor in the product, mentioned an unnamed teammate whose knee injury healed "miraculously" thanks to the product.

Wilson's agent Mark Rodgers, who was present at the time of the conversation between Wilson and the story's author, pumped the breaks a bit by saying, "Well, we're not saying we have real medical proof."

But Wilson said he's a believer.

"I know it works," he said, according to the story. "Soon you're going to be able to order it straight from Amazon."
http://espn.go.com/blog/seattle-seahawks/post/_/id/14011/russell-wilson-credit-water-with-his-recovery-from-big-hit

Gort
08-26-2015, 07:46 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I believe <a href="https://twitter.com/Recovery_Water">@Recovery_Water</a> helped prevent me from getting a concussion based on a bad hit! 😇 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NanoBubbles?src=hash">#NanoBubbles</a></p>&mdash; Russell Wilson (@DangeRussWilson) <a href="https://twitter.com/DangeRussWilson/status/636649695952039936">August 26, 2015</a></blockquote>
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now with electrolytes! ...it's what plants crave!!

:welcome:

Agamemnon
08-26-2015, 08:09 PM
Russell Wilson, snake oil salesman. Huh, I didn't expect that...

Guess Who
08-26-2015, 08:17 PM
What's hilarious is York stressed they wanted to win with class. Then goes and gets a player like Jerome Simpson. It's been nothing but class this entire offseason.

All these guys were brought in by Harbough though.... Just because he left doesn't mean the problems he brought to the team will disappear.

KCStud
08-26-2015, 08:20 PM
I feel bad for JJ Watt. The Patriot way bull**** put the Chiefs, Broncos and Browns at some of their lowest points in years, and now he has to endure it. Even the Falcons are ****ed with Pioli in town. The Patriot way is a plague that will destroy anything outside of New England.

The Texans are ****ed

Paladin
08-26-2015, 08:20 PM
Snake oil........

Guess Who
08-26-2015, 08:26 PM
I feel bad for JJ Watt. The Patriot way bull**** put the Chiefs, Broncos and Browns at some of their lowest points in years, and now he has to endure it. Even the Falcons are ****ed with Pioli in town. The Patriot way is a plague that will destroy anything outside of New England.

The Texans are ****ed

Best post ever by you.... congrats

IndelibleScribe
08-26-2015, 08:36 PM
All these guys were brought in by Harbough though.... Just because he left doesn't mean the problems he brought to the team will disappear.


Kaep, Miller, Smith & Culliver are Harbaugh's guys.
Kilgore and Dobbs were Harbaugh guys as well.


Brooks & McDonald were drafted well before Harbaugh.

Drunken.Broncoholic2
08-26-2015, 08:37 PM
All these guys were brought in by Harbough though.... Just because he left doesn't mean the problems he brought to the team will disappear.

Some not all. Brooks is Singletarys guy. I just find it amusing that York keeps having his team in the SF Chronicle for all the wrong reasons.

broncocalijohn
08-26-2015, 08:38 PM
Best post ever by you.... congrats

Too bad it took almost 6600 posts to do it....and I mean a good post not just the best.

Drunken.Broncoholic2
08-26-2015, 08:40 PM
I've gone to blows with KCStud a lot but he's far better than the new Chiefs dude who I had to put on ignore.

bronco militia
08-26-2015, 08:43 PM
Russell Wilson credits water with his recovery from big hit

The Seattle Seahawks' improbable comeback in last season's NFC Championship Game was even more improbable considering the hit to the head quarterback Russell Wilson took in the second quarter.

Green Bay Packers linebacker Clay Matthews' blindside block on Wilson looked bad enough to knock the quarterback out of the game. But, Wilson returned on the next series and led the Seahawks to an overtime victory. He didn’t miss a practice leading up to the Super Bowl.

How'd he do it?

According to Wilson, it was the healing properties of a sports drink, one in which he invests. The story, presented without commentary, goes like this:

In a feature that appears in the latest issue of Rolling Stone, Wilson credits his recovery from that head injury to Reliant Recovery Water.

"I banged my head during the Packers game in the playoffs, and the next day I was fine," Wilson said in the story. "It was the water."

The story notes that Wilson, who is an investor in the product, mentioned an unnamed teammate whose knee injury healed "miraculously" thanks to the product.

Wilson's agent Mark Rodgers, who was present at the time of the conversation between Wilson and the story's author, pumped the breaks a bit by saying, "Well, we're not saying we have real medical proof."

But Wilson said he's a believer.

"I know it works," he said, according to the story. "Soon you're going to be able to order it straight from Amazon."
http://espn.go.com/blog/seattle-seahawks/post/_/id/14011/russell-wilson-credit-water-with-his-recovery-from-big-hit

move over tebow

bowtown
08-26-2015, 08:50 PM
Possibly the most unprofessional handling short of telling the guy to GFY. I mean, first you give the guy who doesn't get the job that news in private. You don't speechify how you "have to be a professional" and be ready to play and handle this well crap. What a dick move frankly. It was really patronizing. The coach is an asshat. Just because these guys aren't Tom Brady or Peyton Manning or a top tier QB, doesn't mean you talk to them like they are in high school.

I'm already imaginging someone having this conversation with Manning, "Hey Peyton, you need to be a professional. You're 87 years old and the Orange Mane wants to see Brock play so go sit your butt on the bench and be professional and hold Brock's clip board and shine Siemian's helmet.. Now GTFO.

Meh... I didn't think it was too bad.

IndelibleScribe
08-26-2015, 10:39 PM
IK Enemkpali was catfished (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25281660/report-geno-smith-puncher-was-involved-in-catfish-type-incident-in-2011)

The situation started on Sept. 1, 2011 when Enemkpali started exchanging Facebook messages with a woman named "Missy Lee." After a series of messages, the woman offered to perform oral sex on Enemkpali, so he headed over to her house.

Enemkpali would later tell police that he felt "uneasy" about the situation because the woman wouldn't turn on the lights or take off a blanket she was wearing that covered her entire body.

Dafuq?

After taking time to think about it, Enemkpali left the house, but ended up returning later after talking with "Missy Lee" on the phone.

Once Enemkpali was back at the house, he entered the same room as "Missy Lee," but still couldn't see her because the lights were off. At some point, a cell phone rang, and that lit up the room enough for Enemkpali to see that "Missy Lee" had facial hair.

I guess we know what Geno said to get punched. Hilarious!

69bronco
08-26-2015, 10:56 PM
IK Enemkpali was catfished (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25281660/report-geno-smith-puncher-was-involved-in-catfish-type-incident-in-2011)



Dafuq?



I guess we know what Geno said to get punched. Hilarious!

LOL Now he won't be known as the dude who cold clocked geno, he'll be the dude that let a dude blow him.. What an idiot for not keeping his lips zipped.

Shananahan
08-26-2015, 11:00 PM
'Catfish-type' incident, huh.

Terrible reporting.

Castinkas
08-26-2015, 11:04 PM
LOL Now he won't be known as the dude who cold clocked geno, he'll be the dude that let a dude blow him.. What an idiot for not keeping his lips zipped.

You say that like its a bad thing...
Lights off, enough alcohol and a close enough shave.....

IndelibleScribe
08-26-2015, 11:07 PM
'Catfish-type' incident, huh.

Terrible reporting.

It was a sort of catfish situation. Guy talks to girl online, girl offers oral rewards, guy accepts, girl hinds completely under blankets and darkness while fulfilling promise of oral rewards.

Of course my simple question is this. How the **** did you not feel the facial hair to begin with?
I would have never gone over there to begin with in the alleged scenario but once over there why would you allow "her" to hide completely and "service" you?
You don't know what the person might have. They could have been HIV positive with a ton of bloody mouth sores or hiding a razor under their tongue to slice off IK Jr.

IndelibleScribe
08-26-2015, 11:11 PM
You say that like its a bad thing...
Lights off, enough alcohol and a close enough shave.....

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/3698225/ron-simmons-damn-o.gif

huh??
08-27-2015, 11:28 AM
Russell Wilson, snake oil salesman. Huh, I didn't expect that...

Dude's got a divorce to pay for...

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Shananahan
08-27-2015, 11:39 AM
I'm trying to wrap my head around this Wilson thing.

Seems like a completely unnecessary way to torpedo your spotless image.

Shananahan
08-27-2015, 11:40 AM
How long until the first customer reports a concussion? Should we maybe get in on that first?

Gort
08-27-2015, 11:59 AM
I'm trying to wrap my head around this Wilson thing.

Seems like a completely unnecessary way to torpedo your spotless image.

you think all of his philandering while married to his first wife didn't already tarnish his spotless image? ???

EDIT: ^^^ oops! looks like i misremembered. apparently his wife was cheating on him with a teammate. i could swear i read that he was plowing his way through an army of coeds though. maybe that happened after he split from his wife.

DENVERDUI55
08-27-2015, 12:07 PM
IK Enemkpali was catfished (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25281660/report-geno-smith-puncher-was-involved-in-catfish-type-incident-in-2011)



Dafuq?



I guess we know what Geno said to get punched. Hilarious!

I find this absolutely hilarious. Guys getting catfished is funny ****.

SouthStndJunkie
08-27-2015, 12:25 PM
I'm trying to wrap my head around this Wilson thing.

Seems like a completely unnecessary way to torpedo your spotless image.

Dude has been coming off as kind of a flake as of late.

oubronco
08-27-2015, 12:27 PM
ProFootballTalk ‏<S>@</S>ProFootballTalk <SMALL class=time>3m3 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/636967456951549952) </SMALL>
Report: Several Washington offensive linemen dislike RG3 http://wp.me/p14QSB-9PQk (http://t.co/88z6CTfZPQ)

Drunken.Broncoholic2
08-27-2015, 12:56 PM
ProFootballTalk ‏<S>@</S>ProFootballTalk <SMALL class=time>3m3 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/636967456951549952) </SMALL>
Report: Several Washington offensive linemen dislike RG3 http://wp.me/p14QSB-9PQk (http://t.co/88z6CTfZPQ)




Racists! Cannot dislike RG3 without being a racist. Ask the Shanny family.

cousinal11
08-27-2015, 01:13 PM
Pittsburgh Martavias Bryant facing 4 game suspension.

ludo21
08-27-2015, 01:15 PM
yet again why i am glad I draft after this week of preseason.

IndelibleScribe
08-27-2015, 01:26 PM
you think all of his philandering while married to his first wife didn't already tarnish his spotless image? ???

EDIT: ^^^ oops! looks like i misremembered. apparently his wife was cheating on him with a teammate. i could swear i read that he was plowing his way through an army of coeds though. maybe that happened after he split from his wife.

I think you are remembering Kiffin and Bret B on the coeds thing.

DENVERDUI55
08-27-2015, 01:43 PM
you think all of his philandering while married to his first wife didn't already tarnish his spotless image? ???



What was his name?

bronco militia
08-27-2015, 03:16 PM
It was a sort of catfish situation. Guy talks to girl online, girl offers oral rewards, guy accepts, girl hinds completely under blankets and darkness while fulfilling promise of oral rewards.

Of course my simple question is this. How the **** did you not feel the facial hair to begin with?
I would have never gone over there to begin with in the alleged scenario but once over there why would you allow "her" to hide completely and "service" you?
You don't know what the person might have. They could have been HIV positive with a ton of bloody mouth sores or hiding a razor under their tongue to slice off IK Jr.

http://gifatron.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/its_a_trap.gif

oubronco
08-27-2015, 03:26 PM
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pricejj
08-27-2015, 03:53 PM
I feel bad for JJ Watt. The Patriot way bull**** put the Chiefs, Broncos and Browns at some of their lowest points in years, and now he has to endure it. Even the Falcons are ****ed with Pioli in town. The Patriot way is a plague that will destroy anything outside of New England.

The Texans are ****ed

Completely agree.

tsmarine5
08-27-2015, 04:13 PM
Like burning crosses while wearing a hood....... Terrorizing black folk in the South.....like hanging some black kid for whistling at a white gal....While burning a bus of college kids who just want to help people vote....

Yeah. Great Christian values like that.......

"Religion is the Opiate of the masses." Marx But we digress.........

Ignronace is bliss.Said group of racist you're talking about taught the Bible was not the word of "God" and they had the real teachings.The Klan taught "Racial Identity" everything is painted with a white brush...much like the black "Hebrew" nitwits.Jesus wasn't a Jew..all Jews should be killed...blacks are black because their skin was turned that way from coming out of hell(sounds like Mormon doctrine).Very little to do with what you read in a Christian Bible.

I'm not even Christian, but it's naive to group that hate cult into Biblical Christianity.Pick up a book sometimes..might learn a thing or two.

BossChief
08-27-2015, 04:17 PM
Dude's got a divorce to pay for...

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I was always enamored at how big her mouth is...

DENVERDUI55
08-27-2015, 04:27 PM
I feel bad for JJ Watt. The Patriot way bull**** put the Chiefs, Broncos and Browns at some of their lowest points in years, and now he has to endure it. Even the Falcons are ****ed with Pioli in town. The Patriot way is a plague that will destroy anything outside of New England.

The Texans are ****ed
I got a 100 million reasons that you should not feel bad for JJ Watt.

SouthStndJunkie
08-27-2015, 04:32 PM
I was always enamored at how big her mouth is...

I know where you're going with that....she looks like she could deep throat Shaq's fist and forearm....but that mouth also looks like it is annoying and never shuts up.

baja
08-27-2015, 04:45 PM
I know where you're going with that....she looks like she could deep throat Shaq's fist and forearm....but that mouth also looks like it is annoying and never shuts up.

Looks like a circumcision machine to me.

IndelibleScribe
08-27-2015, 06:06 PM
I know where you're going with that....she looks like she could deep throat Shaq's fist and forearm....but that mouth also looks like it is annoying and never shuts up.

She can't talk with her mouth full though.

Rohirrim
08-27-2015, 08:22 PM
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:spit:

DenverBound
08-27-2015, 08:55 PM
I feel bad for JJ Watt. The Patriot way bull**** put the Chiefs, Broncos and Browns at some of their lowest points in years, and now he has to endure it. Even the Falcons are ****ed with Pioli in town. The Patriot way is a plague that will destroy anything outside of New England.

The Texans are ****ed

Holy ****, dud. What a great post! When I saw it actually came from you my jaw damn near hit the floor!:thumbsup:

Maleficent
08-27-2015, 11:46 PM
Russell Wilson: The Chosen One

Wilson's July 5th appearance at the Rock Church, a megachurch in San Diego. It was there that he dropped two bombs exponentially more interesting than anything he has ever said in an interview.

First, he mentioned that his Super Bowl interception was all part of God's plan: "The play happens, I take three steps, and God says to me, 'I'm using you.' My sixth step, God says to me, 'I want to see how you respond, but more importantly I want [the world] to see how you respond.' "


At the church, Wilson told the congregation and minister Miles McPherson, a former NFL defensive back, that he and Ciara were not doing the deed. God had speed-dialed Wilson again, this time backstage at his girlfriend's show.


"She was on tour," Wilson said, "and I was looking at her in the mirror 15 minutes before she went onstage. God said, 'I need you to lead her.' " Wilson smiled. "I was like, 'Really? Right now?' " Right away, Wilson asked her if she would be OK with taking all "that extra stuff off the table." She agreed.


"I knew God had brought me into her life to bless her and for her to bless me and to bless so many people with the impact that she has and I have," said Wilson. "He has anointed both of us — he's calling for us to do something miraculous and special." Wilson then quoted the book of Romans: "For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace."


Full article http://www.rollingstone.com/sports/features/russell-wilson-the-chosen-one-20150826

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ludo21
08-28-2015, 08:35 AM
exactly.

http://www.salon.com/2015/08/26/its_not_just_michael_vick_the_steelers_still_have_ a_rape_culture_problem_too/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Atwater His Ass
08-28-2015, 08:41 AM
Wilson going full Tebow.

SonOfLe-loLang
08-28-2015, 09:03 AM
Russell Wilson: The Chosen One

Wilson's July 5th appearance at the Rock Church, a megachurch in San Diego. It was there that he dropped two bombs exponentially more interesting than anything he has ever said in an interview.

First, he mentioned that his Super Bowl interception was all part of God's plan: "The play happens, I take three steps, and God says to me, 'I'm using you.' My sixth step, God says to me, 'I want to see how you respond, but more importantly I want [the world] to see how you respond.' "


At the church, Wilson told the congregation and minister Miles McPherson, a former NFL defensive back, that he and Ciara were not doing the deed. God had speed-dialed Wilson again, this time backstage at his girlfriend's show.


"She was on tour," Wilson said, "and I was looking at her in the mirror 15 minutes before she went onstage. God said, 'I need you to lead her.' " Wilson smiled. "I was like, 'Really? Right now?' " Right away, Wilson asked her if she would be OK with taking all "that extra stuff off the table." She agreed.


"I knew God had brought me into her life to bless her and for her to bless me and to bless so many people with the impact that she has and I have," said Wilson. "He has anointed both of us — he's calling for us to do something miraculous and special." Wilson then quoted the book of Romans: "For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace."


Full article http://www.rollingstone.com/sports/features/russell-wilson-the-chosen-one-20150826

http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/2015/article/russell-wilson-the-chosen-one-20150826/206829/medium_rect/1440180578/720x405-R1243_NFL_Wilson_D.jpg

Sometimes people are put into mental institutions for this sort of thing

Wes Mantooth
08-28-2015, 09:17 AM
Wilson going full Tebow.

I disagree. When did Tebow ever use his platform to endorse energy water? Tebows belief and faith were not articulated in a magazine about how it was God's design to throw a pick?

Kaylore
08-28-2015, 09:18 AM
I believe in higher power, but I don't believe he controls us. God didn't make Wilson throw that pick to teach us. Wilson made a mistake. I do think we need to learn from our mistakes and it is how respond to mistakes that make us who we are. But I don't believe God or the Devil or whoever "makes" anyone do anything.

alkemical
08-28-2015, 09:18 AM
God told me to = Devil made me do it

alkemical
08-28-2015, 09:19 AM
I disagree. When did Tebow ever use his platform to endorse energy water? Tebows belief and faith were not articulated in a magazine about how it was God's design to throw a pick?

Holy Water perhaps?

CHEF LUIGI
08-28-2015, 09:27 AM
I honestly don't care if RW is a religious whack-job, as long as he doesn't start preaching !
I still think he is an outstanding QB 'destined" to be a top 5 amongst his peers
if he want to call DESTINED ordained or chosen, whatever.
GOD hasn't made a QB out of TT yet...

DENVERDUI55
08-28-2015, 09:29 AM
Yeah I'm sure the almighty cares about a football game.

CHEF LUIGI
08-28-2015, 09:29 AM
I disagree. When did Tebow ever use his platform to endorse energy water? Tebows belief and faith were not articulated in a magazine about how it was God's design to throw a pick?

tebow has endorsed energy products and underwear.
He will be endorsing adult diapers before he ever becomes a legitimate NFL QB !

CHEF LUIGI
08-28-2015, 09:30 AM
Yeah I'm sure the almighty cares about a football game.

only at notre dam, they have an exclusive, no cut contract

Brohemoth
08-28-2015, 09:37 AM
How hilarious would it be if the devil staged the bible, parables, and other moral lessons that give rise to faith? Everyone believes their faith connects them to "God" or some spiritual web, but instead they could be voluntarily entangling themselves in this illusionary net that was cast by devil. Talk about a brilliant endgame.

;)

Would suck for y'all.

Kaylore
08-28-2015, 09:56 AM
How hilarious would it be if the devil staged the bible, parables, and other moral lessons that give rise to faith? Everyone believes their faith connects them to "God" or some spiritual web, but instead they could be voluntarily entangling themselves in this illusionary net that was cast by devil. Talk about a brilliant endgame.

;)

Would suck for y'all.

Except everyone has to live with faith or they wouldn't be able function.

Read David Hume. Don't worry. He's an atheist.

Shananahan
08-28-2015, 10:22 AM
I expected that Seattle would implode eventually under the weight of its personalities and media slobbery, but I didn't expect its star QB to lose all forms of social awareness/tact/his mind before the season even started.

Agamemnon
08-28-2015, 10:31 AM
How hilarious would it be if the devil staged the bible, parables, and other moral lessons that give rise to faith? Everyone believes their faith connects them to "God" or some spiritual web, but instead they could be voluntarily entangling themselves in this illusionary net that was cast by devil. Talk about a brilliant endgame.

;)

Would suck for y'all.

You more or less just described Luciferianism's view of the Christian God. The world is full of crazy belief systems, Christianity included.

IndelibleScribe
08-28-2015, 10:45 AM
I believe in higher power, but I don't believe he controls us. God didn't make Wilson throw that pick to teach us. Wilson made a mistake. I do think we need to learn from our mistakes and it is how respond to mistakes that make us who we are. But I don't believe God or the Devil or whoever "makes" anyone do anything.

^ This.
I think that human beings have the ability to make any choice they see fit. There are inherent issues with either choice you deem correct to make.
I have said it many times before about football and sports in general, I don't think God is sitting around and deciding on choosing one fan bases prayer's over the other. That is just silly, there are far more important matters in the world.

God didn't make him throw a pick to teach him a lesson, he threw that pick because he stared down his ****ing receiver which is the cardinal sin of being a QB.

How hilarious would it be if the devil staged the bible, parables, and other moral lessons that give rise to faith? Everyone believes their faith connects them to "God" or some spiritual web, but instead they could be voluntarily entangling themselves in this illusionary net that was cast by devil. Talk about a brilliant endgame.

;)

Would suck for y'all.

Don't think he would have the patience for the long game.
Of course it is interesting that some will purport the non existence of God then follow it up by claiming the devil.
You cannot have one without the other, there is a balance that must be struck.

Great, look at what you did. Now I am reverting back to the days in which I was with my parents in church 5 out of the 7 days and reading the bible constantly.
This is why I attempt to steer clear of religious debates. It brings out my inner Christian and makes me feel all weird.

IndelibleScribe
08-28-2015, 10:55 AM
You more or less just described Luciferianism's view of the Christian God. The world is full of crazy belief systems, Christianity included.

Almost every belief system has something illogical attached to the basis of it.
Believing in a higher power requires reasoning beyond the normal spectrum.
For some that is lunacy, for others it is faith.

If you research any of them you will also find atrocities attributed to it and reason for them to commit such acts was due to non believers being evil in some form.

Religion as a whole is a fairly simply concept. The problem lies within the dissemination of the information relative to the religion.
There are a lot of people who choose to disseminate the information to fit their narrative. Which is why you have around 30 forms of every religion as it stands now.

alkemical
08-28-2015, 12:17 PM
How hilarious would it be if the devil staged the bible, parables, and other moral lessons that give rise to faith? Everyone believes their faith connects them to "God" or some spiritual web, but instead they could be voluntarily entangling themselves in this illusionary net that was cast by devil. Talk about a brilliant endgame.

;)

Would suck for y'all.

OR - Just humor me for a minute... OR -

By subscribing to any "faith" - tunes you into a frequency. That then allows that deity to drive you like a car when the needs and purpose suits. So we have conflicts that are hundreds/thousands of years old. For "something" that lives a lot longer, we could just be pawns and our destiny is manipulated with our consent.

IndelibleScribe
08-28-2015, 12:22 PM
OR - Just humor me for a minute... OR -

By subscribing to any "faith" - tunes you into a frequency. That then allows that deity to drive you like a car when the needs and purpose suits. So we have conflicts that are hundreds/thousands of years old. For "something" that lives a lot longer, we could just be pawns and our destiny is manipulated with our consent.

http://media.giphy.com/media/vjwACwDxB0hZ6/giphy.gif

oubronco
08-28-2015, 12:48 PM
That "Recovery Water" Russ Wilson sells is amazing! 7 mths ago this baby couldn't even live outside his mother's womb pic.twitter.com/PmYYIjxyBZ (http://t.co/PmYYIjxyBZ)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNXKMIXUAAEXlnz.jpg
(https://twitter.com/BigHeadSports/status/636637232552652800/photo/1)

Maleficent
08-28-2015, 02:08 PM
Russell Wilson says his miracle water comments were 'perceived wrong'

Russell Wilson told reporters on Thursday that Recovery Water, the supposed miracle water he invests in, didn't actually heal a concussion. Now, Wilson claims he never suffered a concussion, and he believes it's because his Recovery Water helped prevent one.

In a Rolling Stone feature on the Seattle Seahawks quarterback, Wilson said that he was hit by Green Bay Packers linebacker Clay Matthews in the NFC Championship Game, but was fine the next day because of the water. Wilson is an investor in Reliant Recovery Water, which Rolling Stone described as "a $3-per-bottle concoction with nanobubbles and electrolytes."

Wilson still maintains that the water may have helped him avoid concussions, but says that it was more of a case of prevention than recovery.

"I didn't have a concussion," Wilson said. "I guess it was perceived wrong. I did not have a concussion. I was saying that I had been consistently drinking the water for a month and a half -- five, seven times a day. And I was like, 'Man, maybe this stuff is helping me out.'"


While Wilson is most definitely not a doctor, he has his own line of logic to explain why Recovery Water helped him avoid head injuries.

"I didn't have a head injury, but what I was trying to say is I think it helped prevent it," he said. "I think your brain consists of like 75, 80 percent water, so I think that just being hydrated, drinking the recovery water really does help."


http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/8/28/9219911/russell-wilson-seattle-seahawks-recovery-water

Backpedalling.

Gort
08-28-2015, 02:16 PM
before Recovery Water:

<img src="http://occupyilluminati.com/wp-content/plugins/rss-poster/cache/85094_120720015036-drought-09-horizontal-gallery.jpg">

after Recovery Water:

<img src="http://imagecache6.allposters.com/LRG/36/3609/IH5EF00Z.jpg">

ah-maize-ing!

<img src="http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140829235648/walkingdead/images/thumb/3/3f/Shut-up-and-take-my-money.jpg/640px-Shut-up-and-take-my-money.jpg">

Gort
08-28-2015, 02:22 PM
Sometimes people are put into mental institutions for this sort of thing

Hillary Clinton claimed in one of her books that she regularly talked to ghosts in the White House, and used to seek counsel from the ghost of Eleanor Roosevelt.

instead of being thrown in the looney bin... the dems made her a senator from NY, the secretary of state under Obama, and now she's running for president.

R O T F L M A O

bronco militia
08-28-2015, 02:22 PM
LOL!

bowtown
08-28-2015, 02:26 PM
I believe in higher power, but I don't believe he controls us. God didn't make Wilson throw that pick to teach us. Wilson made a mistake. I do think we need to learn from our mistakes and it is how respond to mistakes that make us who we are. But I don't believe God or the Devil or whoever "makes" anyone do anything.

Wilson throws INTs for our sins.

IndelibleScribe
08-28-2015, 02:31 PM
Russell Wilson says his miracle water comments were 'perceived wrong'

Russell Wilson told reporters on Thursday that Recovery Water, the supposed miracle water he invests in, didn't actually heal a concussion. Now, Wilson claims he never suffered a concussion, and he believes it's because his Recovery Water helped prevent one.

In a Rolling Stone feature on the Seattle Seahawks quarterback, Wilson said that he was hit by Green Bay Packers linebacker Clay Matthews in the NFC Championship Game, but was fine the next day because of the water. Wilson is an investor in Reliant Recovery Water, which Rolling Stone described as "a $3-per-bottle concoction with nanobubbles and electrolytes."

Wilson still maintains that the water may have helped him avoid concussions, but says that it was more of a case of prevention than recovery.

"I didn't have a concussion," Wilson said. "I guess it was perceived wrong. I did not have a concussion. I was saying that I had been consistently drinking the water for a month and a half -- five, seven times a day. And I was like, 'Man, maybe this stuff is helping me out.'"


While Wilson is most definitely not a doctor, he has his own line of logic to explain why Recovery Water helped him avoid head injuries.

"I didn't have a head injury, but what I was trying to say is I think it helped prevent it," he said. "I think your brain consists of like 75, 80 percent water, so I think that just being hydrated, drinking the recovery water really does help."


http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/8/28/9219911/russell-wilson-seattle-seahawks-recovery-water

Backpedalling.

Oh man. I know this is all kinds of wrong to say. I know it is horrible to even think.
But when you make statements like this and then backpedal once readers or viewers with a actual brain know you are full of it.
It makes me want to wish that someone hits him so damn hard that he in fact suffers a concussion so that he could never make such a bold and outlandish statement ever again.
"How's that recovery water working out for you now bitch?"

Again, forgive me because that is so very hostile. The Devil made me think it.

IndelibleScribe
08-28-2015, 02:34 PM
Hillary Clinton claimed in one of her books that she regularly talked to ghosts in the White House, and used to seek counsel from the ghost of Eleanor Roosevelt.

instead of being thrown in the looney bin... the dems made her a senator from NY, the secretary of state under Obama, and now she's running for president.

R O T F L M A O

Imagine that, a politician who is either morally bankrupt, insane, corrupt or deceitful.
It is almost as if it is confined this is a revelation. Like when a politician preaches about honesty and then has to keep state secrets.

orangeatheist
08-28-2015, 02:35 PM
Oh man. I know this is all kinds of wrong to say. I know it is horrible to even think.
But when you make statements like this and then backpedal once readers or viewers with a actual brain know you are full of it.
It makes me want to wish that someone hits him so damn hard that he in fact suffers a concussion so that he could never make such a bold and outlandish statement ever again.
"How's that recovery water working out for you now b****?"

Again, forgive me because that is so very hostile. The Devil made me think it.

Don't want to come across as a complete Johnson, although I know I will, but I have the exact same feeling about "prayer".

IndelibleScribe
08-28-2015, 02:41 PM
Don't want to come across as a complete Johnson, although I know I will, but I have the exact same feeling about "prayer".

As is your right. I do not have a problem with atheists, non believers or etc.
Because honestly it is the one trait in humans that I find fascinating.
Our ability to perceive certain aspects in a different light than another.
I have friends and co-workers on both sides of the spectrum. Again, I find the differences to be fascinating, though my friends and co-workers find my fascination with it to be weird.


Like right now, I think Russell Wilson is getting close to becoming coo coo for cocoa puffs. Whereas others are lauding his belief in his faith and for being a champion for Christianity.

oubronco
08-28-2015, 03:06 PM
No he's fruitier than a box of Fruit Loops

69bronco
08-28-2015, 03:46 PM
I haven't heard from Ciara in a long time, wasn't she a he at some point?

BossChief
08-28-2015, 04:11 PM
A few years ago, I made a series of posts on CP where I outlined how "The Patriot way" stretches further than just the Patriots winning the games on their schedule.

They groom coaches to send out to destroy other competing football teams from the inside out.

Think about it.

I wouldn't be one bit surprised to find out each of those guys stayed on the Patriots payroll after leaving NE and they were on covert missions to destroy from within.

SouthStndJunkie
08-28-2015, 04:53 PM
As is your right. I do not have a problem with atheists, non believers or etc.
Because honestly it is the one trait in humans that I find fascinating.
Our ability to perceive certain aspects in a different light than another.
I have friends and co-workers on both sides of the spectrum. Again, I find the differences to be fascinating, though my friends and co-workers find my fascination with it to be weird.


Like right now, I think Russell Wilson is getting close to becoming coo coo for cocoa puffs. Whereas others are lauding his belief in his faith and for being a champion for Christianity.

The mere fact that Russell Wilson thinks he's got a direct connection to 'God' is arrogant, amazingly self centered, and delusional.

There are over 7 billion people in the world and 'God' got on the horn to let you know your trINT to lose the Super Bowl was all a part of a bigger plan....and he told you this while you were walking off the field?

This dude is a fake flake.

Broncojef
08-28-2015, 05:09 PM
The mere fact that Russell Wilson thinks he's got a direct connection to 'God' is arrogant, amazingly self centered, and delusional.

There are over 7 billion people in the world and 'God' got on the horn to let you know your trINT to lose the Super Bowl was all a part of a bigger plan....and he told you this while you were walking off the field?

This dude is a fake flake.

Actually all Christians believe we have a personal relationship with the God of the universe, we pray to him and he talks to us through his word (the Bible) and continues to work in the day to day lives of people. Not sure the Wilson example but everything happens for a reason whether we see it at the time or years later.

Brohemoth
08-28-2015, 05:12 PM
LOL

gunns
08-28-2015, 05:18 PM
Phillips to be charged in death of cellmate. Wow, dude just could not turn it around the right way, went the extreme way.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/phillips-will-be-prosecuted-for-death-of-cellmate/ar-BBmcblS

SonOfLe-loLang
08-28-2015, 05:50 PM
Tom Brady first two possessions were 3 and outs.

In other words, he's "done"

-- The mane

Miss I.
08-28-2015, 05:58 PM
Tom Brady first two possessions were 3 and outs.

In other words, he's "done"

-- The mane

And that's an interception. See what happens when you fully inflate your balls.

Miss I.
08-28-2015, 06:00 PM
Also Brady tried to make a tackle. Priceless. Thats what that was.

Bronco
08-28-2015, 06:10 PM
And that's an interception. See what happens when you fully inflate your balls.

I may be the minority here but I actually think him fully inflating his balls will expose his weak arm and small hands and eventually lead to his career ending after this year.

IndelibleScribe
08-28-2015, 06:17 PM
Actually all Christians believe we have a personal relationship with the God of the universe, we pray to him and he talks to us through his word (the Bible) and continues to work in the day to day lives of people. Not sure the Wilson example but everything happens for a reason whether we see it at the time or years later.

Not all, you forget that there are around 33 different types of Christianity. Some believe in the holy trinity. other do not, some follow only the old testament, others only the new, some believe the bible is a perfect text and must be followed to the letter, others believe it to be only a guide and unfinished.

The mere fact that Russell Wilson thinks he's got a direct connection to 'God' is arrogant, amazingly self centered, and delusional.

There are over 7 billion people in the world and 'God' got on the horn to let you know your trINT to lose the Super Bowl was all a part of a bigger plan....and he told you this while you were walking off the field?

This dude is a fake flake.

Most religions believe in a direct connection through prayer. But the whole "God had me throw the INT to teach me." Is beyond extreme.

Broncojef
08-28-2015, 07:54 PM
Not all, you forget that there are around 33 different types of Christianity. Some believe in the holy trinity. other do not, some follow only the old testament, others only the new, some believe the bible is a perfect text and must be followed to the letter, others believe it to be only a guide and unfinished.


We can talk about this off-line but by its definition a follower of Christ believes Jesus Christ was the Son of God and there is but one way to heaven through him and having a relationship with him. All Christians believe in a God who listens to his people and speaks through his word. The fact most people now days laugh at that thought doesn't make it in someway wrong or extreme only a picture of how far our country has fallen. I didn't hear the Wilson statement from his lips so don't know the context in which he spoke. The thought God tests people and puts them in non-optimal situations from time to time to forge a stronger Christian is not a new concept and perhaps what Russell was trying to convey.

Inkana7
08-28-2015, 08:00 PM
I'm glad we've fallen as a nation to the point where we we're skeptical of a man who says the magic ruler of everything says it's ok that he failed and that you should drink his magic healing water, it's got nanobubbles!

I've never seen a bigger fraud of a person than Russel Wilson. Either he's dumb as ****ing hell or much more sociopathic than his 7 pictures/hour with kids at Seattle General wants us to believe.

IndelibleScribe
08-28-2015, 10:38 PM
We can talk about this off-line but by its definition a follower of Christ believes Jesus Christ was the Son of God and there is but one way to heaven through him and having a relationship with him. All Christians believe in a God who listens to his people and speaks through his word. The fact most people now days laugh at that thought doesn't make it in someway wrong or extreme only a picture of how far our country has fallen. I didn't hear the Wilson statement from his lips so don't know the context in which he spoke. The thought God tests people and puts them in non-optimal situations from time to time to forge a stronger Christian is not a new concept and perhaps what Russell was trying to convey.

Every religion has different sects, Christianity is no different in it's voluminous amount of alternative takes.
You have Baptist, Methodist, Pentecostal, Lutheran, Adventist, Evangelical and etc. Each one of those has a further expansion of beliefs inside of it's sect. You have Christian Theology, Trinitarian, non-Trinitarian, Seventh Day Adventists & etc.
Christianity is not a one size fits all. All of them have either subtle or not so subtle differences.

Him saying God speaks to him and tests him is not why people are skeptical or finding his claims to be absolutely ridiculous.
It's the statement claiming that his mistake was somehow constructed by God as a test of his faith that has so many seeing the claim as outlandish.

God working through people, testing your perseverance through adversity and blessing you is nothing new in concept or thought.
Someone standing up and saying "Hey, I screwed up on my job but it is all a part of God's plan to test me."
That is why so many find it to be a ridiculous.
You have people dying in the world every day, hunger and famine throughout, homeless people begging on a corner or killing themselves with drugs, babies being born, disease spreading, marital vows being violated, heinous crimes being committed, soldiers fighting for freedom and dying then coming home in caskets and having idiot buffoons showing up to their funerals to protest their memory as nothing more than that of murderers, people tested to their limits every day.

So yes, I can fully understand why someone, be it religious or not would have the perception that Russell Wilson is moronic in his would be attempt to compare his having committed an egregious error in a football game to a test of his character and faith by God.

oubronco
08-29-2015, 09:15 AM
Also Brady tried to make a tackle. Priceless. Thats what that was.

Looked like he was getting down on his knees to you know the rest

Miss I.
08-29-2015, 11:27 AM
Looked like he was getting down on his knees to you know the rest

He was Tebowing?

Gutless Drunk
08-29-2015, 01:45 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Redskins?src=hash">#Redskins</a> made LT Trent Williams the highest paid T in history. $13.2M avg. $34.25M in guarantees. $32M at signing, per agent Vincent Taylor</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/637712108499697664">August 29, 2015</a></blockquote>
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redrage
08-29-2015, 05:00 PM
Anyone catching the end of this Buffalo/Pitt game? Apparently Buffalo marched up and down the field with all of their QBs. The Buffalo announcers were talking about the abundance of QB riches that the Bills had and that they needed to trade one to keep it from becoming a QB controversy.

This was not tongue in cheek. They were serious.

On another note, Pittsburghs secondary was awful last season and it doesn't took as though it has improved if Buffalo is putting up 40+ and 500 yards.

Drunken.Broncoholic2
08-29-2015, 05:06 PM
Julio Jones gets a bigger contract than DT.


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000517695/article/julio-jones-signs-5year-extension-47m-in-guarantees

Drunken.Broncoholic2
08-29-2015, 05:06 PM
Anyone catching the end of this Buffalo/Pitt game? Apparently Buffalo marched up and down the field with all of their QBs. The Buffalo announcers were talking about the abundance of QB riches that the Bills had and that they needed to trade one to keep it from becoming a QB controversy.

This was not tongue in cheek. They were serious.

On another note, Pittsburghs secondary was awful last season and it doesn't took as though it has improved if Buffalo is putting up 40+ and 500 yards.




Those announcers are ridiculous. But they get paid to homer.

Agamemnon
08-29-2015, 05:21 PM
Actually all Christians believe we have a personal relationship with the God of the universe, we pray to him and he talks to us through his word (the Bible) and continues to work in the day to day lives of people. Not sure the Wilson example but everything happens for a reason whether we see it at the time or years later.

All Christians do not believe that. You should study up on the subject.

Miss I.
08-29-2015, 05:51 PM
Crap are we in the Warped room now? Or did they offiicially declare the NFL a church? ;D

DBroncos4life
08-29-2015, 06:10 PM
I wish Randy Greogry wasn't an idiot. 3 sacks so far this preseason. He is going to do well for awhile.

Rocket 7
08-29-2015, 06:17 PM
John Harbaugh got in a shouting match with Jay Gruden on the Redskins sideline

Rocket 7
08-29-2015, 06:18 PM
Steve Smith thrown out of game.

D.B.
08-29-2015, 06:19 PM
Steve Smith thrown out of game.

Way to stick up for his teammate. That tacke could have broke the recievers neck.

BroncosfanGuy
08-29-2015, 06:26 PM
The Packers decide it's a good idea to roll Randall Cobb out with Hundley and Cobb gets hurt now too. sometimes NFL head coach logic is mind blowing

Drunken.Broncoholic2
08-29-2015, 06:47 PM
Meanwhile John Fox still doesn't know how to stop Jeremy Hill.

swaiy
08-29-2015, 06:53 PM
Tyler Lockett is one fast mofo

TonyR
08-29-2015, 06:54 PM
Eagles dominated Indy week 1, Ravens week 2, Packers week 3. They look legit.

Action
08-29-2015, 10:31 PM
Packers are so ****ed...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Packers WR Randall Cobb has left game with an apparent shoulder injury.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/637788281069944832">August 30, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Four of the Packers' five starting offensive linemen are now hurt. Right tackle Bryan Bulaga left Saturday's... <a href="http://t.co/CwKwvAm9Fx">http://t.co/CwKwvAm9Fx</a></p>&mdash; Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) <a href="https://twitter.com/RobDemovsky/status/637794529014185984">August 30, 2015</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Packers?src=hash">#Packers</a> DB Micah Hyde is now leaving on a cart.</p>&mdash; Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) <a href="https://twitter.com/RobDemovsky/status/637793973105504256">August 30, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Agamemnon
08-29-2015, 10:45 PM
Eagles dominated Indy week 1, Ravens week 2, Packers week 3. They look legit.

Call me when they do that in the regular season...

IndelibleScribe
08-29-2015, 11:41 PM
Julio Jones gets a bigger contract than DT.


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000517695/article/julio-jones-signs-5year-extension-47m-in-guarantees

The guaranteed money is the big news in the extension. 47 of 71 mil guaranteed.

swaiy
08-29-2015, 11:45 PM
It's also 6 years since he still had a year on his rookie deal.

Enter The Dragon
08-30-2015, 12:54 AM
Meanwhile John Fox still doesn't know how to stop Jeremy Hill.

Fox couldn't stop Sesame Street sir

TonyR
08-30-2015, 10:02 AM
Call me when they do that in the regular season...

Yeah, you have to take preseason results with a grain of salt. But they've done it in all three games now. Their 1's just dominated in all 3 games, and their O rolled down the field almost every time they had the ball. With GB torn up with injuries and Seattle in disarray, I'm not sure who's better in the NFC right now.

orangeatheist
08-30-2015, 10:17 AM
Yeah, you have to take preseason results with a grain of salt. But they've done it in all three games now. Their 1's just dominated in all 3 games, and their O rolled down the field almost every time they had the ball. With GB torn up with injuries and Seattle in disarray, I'm not sure who's better in the NFC right now.

2008 Detroit Lions.
Unbeaten in the preseason.
Winless in the regular season.
Just sayin'.

Tombstone RJ
08-30-2015, 10:19 AM
Sam Bradford looks legit in that offense...

TonyR
08-30-2015, 10:24 AM
2008 Detroit Lions.
Unbeaten in the preseason.
Winless in the regular season.
Just sayin'.

Ignore wins and losses. Look at how the 1's performed. Again, it might mean nothing. But their starting offense has been ridiculously good in all three games, and their starting D also very good. And Bradford was pretty much perfect last night. Don't sleep on this team.

Drunken.Broncoholic2
08-30-2015, 10:34 AM
Ignore wins and losses. Look at how the 1's performed. Again, it might mean nothing. But their starting offense has been ridiculously good in all three games, and their starting D also very good. And Bradford was pretty much perfect last night. Don't sleep on this team.



I'm a fan of the quick no huddle. It just drains defenses and gives the offense more possessions in a game if it's complimented by a decent defense. They will average more than 30 a game.

LikeABoss5820
08-30-2015, 10:35 AM
Eagles dominated Indy week 1, Ravens week 2, Packers week 3. They look legit.

your Eagles look good for sure.

Gort
08-30-2015, 11:54 AM
typical Wisconsin RB struggles once they get to the NFL...

Melvin Gordon's transition to the NFL hasn't been easy. The Chargers rookie running back and first-round pick had 11 yards on six carries in the preseason opener, sat out the second game, then didn't look confident against Seattle. Struggling to find and hit the hole, Gordon had just 34 yards on 14 carries with a long run of 8 yards.

Drunken.Broncoholic2
08-30-2015, 12:20 PM
typical Wisconsin RB struggles once they get to the NFL...




They can't all be Ron Dayne! Oh wait, yes they can.

IndelibleScribe
08-30-2015, 12:30 PM
Sam Bradford looks legit in that offense...

It is similar to what he ran in college, obviously more QB read option but still similar.
I drafted him in one of my fantasy leagues as the back up(I think it's to Manning) so I am curious to see what he can do.

Gort
08-30-2015, 12:31 PM
They can't all be Ron Dayne! Oh wait, yes they can.

i know he's a rookie and all that, but drafting a WI RB in the early rounds is a surefire way to ruin a draft.

subtract his single 8-yard run and he's averaging 2 yards per carry this pre-season.

that's not good.

thankfully he's a Sparkler, so his struggles are all the more satisfying. :)

winstoncup bronco
08-30-2015, 12:35 PM
i know he's a rookie and all that, but drafting a WI RB in the early rounds is a surefire way to ruin a draft.

subtract his single 8-yard run and he's averaging 2 yards per carry this pre-season.

that's not good.

thankfully he's a Sparkler, so his struggles are all the more satisfying. :)

In before Charger fan yells "BUT BUT...PRESEASON!"

Agamemnon
08-30-2015, 01:55 PM
Ignore wins and losses. Look at how the 1's performed. Again, it might mean nothing. But their starting offense has been ridiculously good in all three games, and their starting D also very good. And Bradford was pretty much perfect last night. Don't sleep on this team.

From what I've seen it's looked like Chip Kelly is actually gameplanning while his opponents run vanilla packages. The Eagles are solid but they are nowhere near as good as they've looked in the preseason.

Zealot
08-30-2015, 02:02 PM
assuming 66% 2 point conversion success vs. 90% PAT kicking success...

66 x 2 = 132
132 - 90 = 42 more points
42/16 = 2.6 more points per game

assuming 50% 2 point conversion success vs. 90% PAT kicking success...

50 x 2 = 100
100 - 90 = 10 more points
10/16 = 0.6 more points per game

therefore, if you have a 2-yard goal line offense that can convert 2/3rds of the time, it makes a difference.

Might have to back off that 66% conversion rate. 0/2 yesterday if I read the box score correctly.

Tombstone RJ
08-30-2015, 02:22 PM
From what I've seen it's looked like Chip Kelly is actually gameplanning while his opponents run vanilla packages. The Eagles are solid but they are nowhere near as good as they've looked in the preseason.

If CK is game planning then that is one thing, however, if he's not, then his team looks real good.

BossChief
08-30-2015, 02:43 PM
You guys do know that NFL coaches actually talk to each other before preseason games to discuss things they want to get out of the game from certain parts of their team, don't you?

Some of you are going to laugh at that, butI assure you that happens before more than half the games played in preseason.

I would be willing to bet Kubiak and Tomsulu spoke about Denver's newly formed O line and agreed to have the 49ers send a few blitzes to give your coaches things to coach.

Agamemnon
08-30-2015, 02:49 PM
If CK is game planning then that is one thing, however, if he's not, then his team looks real good.

He is. I'm 90% sure of it. His team is good mind you, but so are the teams they've beaten this preseason. Also keep in mind that his offense is kind of weird to defend without a proper gameplan oriented towards stopping it.

Tombstone RJ
08-30-2015, 02:59 PM
You guys do know that NFL coaches actually talk to each other before preseason games to discuss things they want to get out of the game from certain parts of their team, don't you?

Some of you are going to laugh at that, butI assure you that happens before more than half the games played in preseason.

I would be willing to bet Kubiak and Tomsulu spoke about Denver's newly formed O line and agreed to have the 49ers send a few blitzes to give your coaches things to coach.

Well the Broncos practiced all week with the Niners so it's not out or the realm of possibility that this type of stuff was discussed. That being said, I've never heard anything about coaches discussing things before preseason games, at least, not the third preseason game.

oubronco
08-30-2015, 03:59 PM
Adam Schefter ‏<S>@</S>AdamSchefter <SMALL class=time>9m9 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/638106318474088448) </SMALL>
First surprise cut of the week: Bears are releasing veteran CB Tim Jennings, per source.

Boltjolt
08-30-2015, 05:04 PM
Well the Broncos practiced all week with the Niners so it's not out or the realm of possibility that this type of stuff was discussed. That being said, I've never heard anything about coaches discussing things before preseason games, at least, not the third preseason game.

A preseason game is a preseason game. We have been trying DJ Fluker at RG where he has never played before and yes he played there in their 3rd PREseason game. Franklin did not play and they had a RT playing LG last night as well(and it didnt go very well) in place of Franklin.

Preseason is where you try things put. As soon as a player gets dinged at all, McCoy pulls them if it isnt serious and he can save some more injury to them. Rivers dinged his finger on a defender and out he came after that.

Action
08-30-2015, 05:06 PM
You guys do know that NFL coaches actually talk to each other before preseason games to discuss things they want to get out of the game from certain parts of their team, don't you?

Some of you are going to laugh at that, butI assure you that happens before more than half the games played in preseason.

I would be willing to bet Kubiak and Tomsulu spoke about Denver's newly formed O line and agreed to have the 49ers send a few blitzes to give your coaches things to coach.

Not in the 3rd preseason game you, where game planning is actually there.

And, no, you can't assure anything because you have no proof.

Boltjolt
08-30-2015, 05:12 PM
Not in the 3rd preseason game you, where game planning is actually there.

And, no, you can't assure anything because you have no proof.

I dont think there is anymore game planning than the other preseason games. Its just a game to get the starters more time and then they dont play at all in game four to then rest up/heal up.

Action
08-30-2015, 05:17 PM
I dont think there is anymore game planning than the other preseason games. Its just a game to get the starters more time and then they dont play at all in game four to then rest up/heal up.

...3rd pre season games usually have the team go through a normal game planning simulation if you will, considering first team plays a lot, and it's their last time they get to before regular season.

Kubiak, Fox, McDaniels have been on record talking about this.

It's their final chance to simulate a real game week.

Week 1 almost has 0 game planning...week 2 is up in air ...

Boltjolt
08-30-2015, 05:24 PM
Maybe a game plan for what THEY want to do. Not against the opponent. You hear all the time coaches saying how they want to get so and so a lot of work in those games to be ready. if a player is already dinged up, they most likely wont play.
Some teams still hold out starters in preseason. Tomlinson rarely played in the preseason for us after his rookie year. One year he only had 1 carry and he went for 50 yards and a TD against the Rams and took a seat till the opener. Marty never played him, didnt even suit up.

SonOfLe-loLang
08-30-2015, 05:25 PM
I don't think there's much game planning either. Did we even spy kaep yesterday?

Action
08-30-2015, 05:32 PM
Maybe a game plan for what THEY want to do. Not against the opponent. You hear all the time coaches saying how they want to get so and so a lot of work in those games to be ready. if a player is already dinged up, they most likely wont play.
Some teams still hold out starters in preseason. Tomlinson rarely played in the preseason for us after his rookie year. One year he only had 1 carry and he went for 50 yards and a TD against the Rams and took a seat till the opener.

It's a "soft" game plan. This week, since niners and broncos practiced all week I'm sure they were able to install a decent game plan against that defense and vice versa. When I say soft and decent, I'm saying they'll stay vanilla for the most part...most the time. Patriots don't though.

They asked Manning yesterday about if Niners knew their plays which led Niners to giving the Broncos a tough time on offense, and Manning said they had plays where they didn't run in practice.

I will say this again, coaches, players, have said time and time again that they try to simulate a real week as much as possible prior to week 3. It's the same **** every year, yet some of you just don't understand.

Not sure you understand what it is like to operate at the professional level.

Action
08-30-2015, 05:34 PM
I don't think there's much game planning either. Did we even spy kaep yesterday?

What do you mean much game planning?

Rewatch the game and look at Kubiak's laminated playcall sheet.

TonyR
08-30-2015, 05:39 PM
It is similar to what he ran in college, obviously more QB read option but still similar.
I drafted him in one of my fantasy leagues as the back up(I think it's to Manning) so I am curious to see what he can do.

4 TD's in 4 possessions this preseason. You'll be starting him within a few weeks, provided he hasn't blown out an ACL by then.

Boltjolt
08-30-2015, 05:49 PM
It's a "soft" game plan. This week, since niners and broncos practiced all week I'm sure they were able to install a decent game plan against that defense and vice versa. When I say soft and decent, I'm saying they'll stay vanilla for the most part...most the time. Patriots don't though.

They asked Manning yesterday about if Niners knew their plays which led Niners to giving the Broncos a tough time on offense, and Manning said they had plays where they didn't run in practice.

I will say this again, coaches, players, have said time and time again that they try to simulate a real week as much as possible prior to week 3. It's the same **** every year, yet some of you just don't understand.

Not sure you understand what it is like to operate at the professional level.
I didnt realize i was replying to one of the coaches of the Broncos.

What i understand is its not nearly the same thing and saying it is a soft game plan, you agree it isnt the same thing.

BossChief
08-30-2015, 05:55 PM
Not in the 3rd preseason game you, where game planning is actually there.

And, no, you can't assure anything because you have no proof.

I actually do know where to look for proof if you'd like.

All you have to do is ask nicely.

BossChief
08-30-2015, 06:00 PM
Todd Haley said so in an interview during preseason in 2010 or 2011.

Said that basically the only time it doesn't happen is if the coaches have bad blood between each other, but that otherwise it's commonplace for coaches to call each other before preseason games to try to help each other make progress in ps games.

Kaylore
08-30-2015, 06:55 PM
BossChief and BoltJolt are both right. There is game planning, and they try simulate some realistic scenarios, but it really means nothing and both coaching staffs agree to try and simulate certain scenarios, or avoid others if the option is there. That doesn't mean bad execution is OK. Just that preseason really means very little.

Really we won't know until week 6 what this or any team will look like.

DENVERDUI55
08-30-2015, 07:55 PM
Denny Green says the 3rd preseason games mean a lot. He found out who the bears were who he thought they were.

LongDongJohnson
08-30-2015, 09:00 PM
i dont care if its preseason, broncos are 3-0

broncosteven
08-30-2015, 09:15 PM
They can't all be Ron Dayne! Oh wait, yes they can.

Ron Dayne was money on Thanksgiving.

broncosteven
08-30-2015, 09:19 PM
Adam Schefter ‏<S>@</S>AdamSchefter <SMALL class=time>9m9 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/638106318474088448) </SMALL>
First surprise cut of the week: Bears are releasing veteran CB Tim Jennings, per source.

He has been bad for a long time. This is the reason duh bears hired Fox. They know he will evaluate the roster while still trying to win some games. I think even duh bears know that they will need to hire a coach to replace him once he improves said roster if they want to win a SB though. Fox is going to get taken apart by the dude up in GB, if they can field a team that is, lots of tough injuries for GB this PS.

bowtown
08-30-2015, 09:35 PM
Adam Schefter ‏<S>@</S>AdamSchefter <SMALL class=time>9m9 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/638106318474088448) </SMALL>
First surprise cut of the week: Bears are releasing veteran CB Tim Jennings, per source.

Wasn't he the guy that beat the computer at Jeopardy? It's not surprising to me that he wasn't a great football player.

IndelibleScribe
08-30-2015, 11:53 PM
He has been bad for a long time. This is the reason duh bears hired Fox. They know he will evaluate the roster while still trying to win some games. I think even duh bears know that they will need to hire a coach to replace him once he improves said roster if they want to win a SB though. Fox is going to get taken apart by the dude up in GB, if they can field a team that is, lots of tough injuries for GB this PS.

The Bears roster has been ****ty for a long time. They need a infusion of youth and talent to help rebuild.

Kaylore
08-31-2015, 07:43 AM
Wasn't he the guy that beat the computer at Jeopardy? It's not surprising to me that he wasn't a great football player.

That'll only get you a camp spot, usually. Probably picked up the playbook well.

Smiling Assassin27
08-31-2015, 08:19 AM
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SouthStndJunkie
08-31-2015, 12:44 PM
The race to be the Buffalo Bills' starting quarterback is over, as coach Rex Ryan has chosen Tyrod Taylor to start Week 1 against the Indianapolis Colts, a source told ESPN Insider Adam Schefter.

Taylor won the job over EJ Manuel and Matt Cassel. Taylor is 24-for-31 for 236 yards in the preseason.

SouthStndJunkie
08-31-2015, 12:45 PM
Kirk Cousins will be the Washington Redskins' starting quarterback for the upcoming 2015 season, coach Jay Gruden announced Monday.

ESPN reported earlier Monday that Washington's coaching staff had informed players that Cousins would start in the Redskins' regular-season opener against the Miami Dolphins.

Br0nc0Buster
08-31-2015, 12:45 PM
wow tyrod taylor

Im rooting for him but that has to be the worst collection of qbs in the league up buffalo

Drunken.Broncoholic2
08-31-2015, 12:53 PM
Kirk Cousins will be the Washington Redskins' starting quarterback for the upcoming 2015 season, coach Jay Gruden announced Monday.

ESPN reported earlier Monday that Washington's coaching staff had informed players that Cousins would start in the Redskins' regular-season opener against the Miami Dolphins.

He must be racist!

CHEF LUIGI
08-31-2015, 01:33 PM
Kirk Cousins will be the Washington Redskins' starting quarterback for the upcoming 2015 season, coach Jay Gruden announced Monday.

ESPN reported earlier Monday that Washington's coaching staff had informed players that Cousins would start in the Redskins' regular-season opener against the Miami Dolphins.this was common knowledge on SUNDAY !

CHEF LUIGI
08-31-2015, 01:34 PM
Wasn't he the guy that beat the computer at Jeopardy? It's not surprising to me that he wasn't a great football player.

aaron Rodgers smoked the competition in celebrity jeopardy.

kid70
08-31-2015, 02:32 PM
Julius Thomas needs surgery now on his finger. Will this guy ever play again?

Gort
08-31-2015, 02:46 PM
Julius Thomas needs surgery now on his finger. Will this guy ever play again?

why should he? he's already been PAID! mo' money... mo' money..

http://i.imgur.com/PoBwE.gif

LikeABoss5820
08-31-2015, 03:30 PM
Travis Kelce left practice early today, details on Tuesday.

Would be massive blow to KC.

Shananahan
08-31-2015, 03:32 PM
Maybe he was just trying to have 'The KC Fan Experience'.

BroncoBeavis
08-31-2015, 04:06 PM
Travis Kelce left practice early today, details on Tuesday.

Would be massive blow to KC.

Losing Gronkdeux in the Red Zone where all KC's WR's go on smoke break would be particularly rough.

KCStud
08-31-2015, 04:42 PM
Phew

@RapSheet: Sounds like he rolled his ankle. Should be OK. #Chiefs RT @barretta816: @RapSheet how is @tkelce ?!?!?!

IndelibleScribe
08-31-2015, 04:46 PM
Kirk Cousins will be the Washington Redskins' starting quarterback for the upcoming 2015 season, coach Jay Gruden announced Monday.

ESPN reported earlier Monday that Washington's coaching staff had informed players that Cousins would start in the Redskins' regular-season opener against the Miami Dolphins.

I get the feeling that Washington will be looking for a new QB of the future next season.

oubronco
08-31-2015, 04:48 PM
Ian Rapoport ‏<S>@</S>RapSheet <SMALL class=time>1m1 minute ago (https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/638483049450217472) </SMALL>
A show of RB depth. But brutal for Trent. RT <S>@</S>BWilliamsonESPN (https://twitter.com/BWilliamsonESPN): Sources: Raiders have cut Trent Richardson. http://espn.go.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0430134215116332224-4 … (http://t.co/YIJ7zVrR5M)

Rabb
08-31-2015, 04:57 PM
Maybe he was just trying to have 'The KC Fan Experience'.

:kiss:

IndelibleScribe
08-31-2015, 05:05 PM
Ian Rapoport ‏<S>@</S>RapSheet <SMALL class=time>1m1 minute ago (https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/638483049450217472) </SMALL>
A show of RB depth. But brutal for Trent. RT <S>@</S>BWilliamsonESPN (https://twitter.com/BWilliamsonESPN): Sources: Raiders have cut Trent Richardson. http://espn.go.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0430134215116332224-4 … (http://t.co/YIJ7zVrR5M)

After the vision shown by him, not at all surprised.

Arkie
09-01-2015, 05:33 AM
Peyton Manning's longest run is 33 yards. Trent Richardson's longest run is 32 yards.

TonyR
09-01-2015, 08:45 AM
Broncos ranked 4th on the first Football Power Index. Seems to me it over ranks our offense and under ranks our defense...

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13550051/espn-nfl-football-power-index-rankings-august-31

SonOfLe-loLang
09-01-2015, 09:27 AM
Peyton Manning's longest run is 33 yards. Trent Richardson's longest run is 32 yards.

Not for nothing, but CJ's longest run is like 27 yards.

SouthStndJunkie
09-01-2015, 09:40 AM
Fred Jackson and Marshawn Lynch are about to be reunited.

Jackson is flying to Seattle today and is expected to sign with the Seahawks, Ian Rapoport of NFL Network reports.

SouthStndJunkie
09-01-2015, 09:42 AM
That will be a tough 1-2 combination for the Seahawks.

Robert Turbin and Christine Michael can't be happy about the Fred Jackson signing.

ColoradoDarin
09-01-2015, 09:47 AM
Not for nothing, but CJ's longest run is like 27 yards.

Yep, because this was a catch:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/br-cdn/temp_images/2014/11/09/2014-11-0914_22_03.gif

2KBack
09-01-2015, 09:53 AM
Not for nothing, but CJ's longest run is like 27 yards.

yeah, but does have a 51 yard catch and run on his resume of 7 starts

69bronco
09-01-2015, 09:59 AM
yeah, but does have a 51 yard catch and run on his resume of 7 starts

And 7 rushes of 20+ yards which is better than both Richardson and our own 'speedster' Hillman.

IndelibleScribe
09-01-2015, 11:20 AM
And 7 rushes of 20+ yards which is better than both Richardson and our own 'speedster' Hillman.

A bit different though. CJ can run over people as well as around them. Hillman can run around them but not over them.
I suspect this OL will open some gaping holes and he will have some seriously long runs this year.

That will be a tough 1-2 combination for the Seahawks.

Robert Turbin and Christine Michael can't be happy about the Fred Jackson signing.

Well, if they had played better in the past there would have been no FJ signing.

Gutless Drunk
09-01-2015, 11:31 AM
POWER RANKINGS!!!!

#3 - Broncos: John Fox is gone which isn't a positive, but Gary Kubiak is attempting to take some pressure off Peyton Manning with a better run game. My prediction is Manning will still throw over 550 passes this season. The defense is good enough to win games if the offense struggles.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/pat-kirwan/25286313/nfl-preseason-power-rankings-pack-on-top-but-seahawks-team-to-beat

IndelibleScribe
09-01-2015, 11:35 AM
POWER RANKINGS!!!!

#3 - Broncos: John Fox is gone which isn't a positive, but Gary Kubiak is attempting to take some pressure off Peyton Manning with a better run game. My prediction is Manning will still throw over 550 passes this season. The defense is good enough to win games if the offense struggles.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/pat-kirwan/25286313/nfl-preseason-power-rankings-pack-on-top-but-seahawks-team-to-beat

This does not compute. Granted we had some stellar regular seasons under his reign.

55CrushEm
09-01-2015, 11:44 AM
This does not compute. Granted we had some stellar regular seasons under his reign.

Oh, please. Giving Fox credit for our regular season records is the same as giving Trent Dilfer the credit for Baltimore winning the Superbowl in 2000....

.....both guys were just along for the ride.

IndelibleScribe
09-01-2015, 11:55 AM
Oh, please. Giving Fox credit for our regular season records is the same as giving Trent Dilfer the credit for Baltimore winning the Superbowl in 2000....

.....both guys were just along for the ride.

Fox certainly squandered talent. But we had some of the best seasons in franchise history under his watch and had what 3 assistants who took NFL head coaching jobs.

As much as he failed to secure us a championship, he was still key to our recent success. The man won a division title with Tim Tebow at QB and a playoff game too.

55CrushEm
09-01-2015, 11:58 AM
Fox certainly squandered talent. But we had some of the best seasons in franchise history under his watch and had what 3 assistants who took NFL head coaching jobs.

As much as he failed to secure us a championship, he was still key to our recent success. The man won a division title with Tim Tebow at QB and a playoff game too.

Again.....prove the cause and effect relationship.

Any QB in the league would've won a Superbowl on that 2000 Ravens team......just like most any coach in the league could've gotten Denver to a Superbowl with the offense we had in 2013.

To say John Fox was "key" to our success is overstating his abilities.....just my opinion.

Another silly comparison......I may fly out to Denver for a game this year. If they win, I'll come home and say they won BECAUSE I attended.......

IndelibleScribe
09-01-2015, 12:35 PM
Again.....prove the cause and effect relationship.

Any QB in the league would've won a Superbowl on that 2000 Ravens team......just like most any coach in the league could've gotten Denver to a Superbowl with the offense we had in 2013.

To say John Fox was "key" to our success is overstating his abilities.....just my opinion.

Another silly comparison......I may fly out to Denver for a game this year. If they win, I'll come home and say they won BECAUSE I attended.......

There are plenty of QB's who would not have won the SB for that 2000 Raven teams. They needed a game manager and he was exactly that. Perfect fit for that team.
Dominant defense alone doesn't win you a SB, mixing that dominant defense with a QB who fits your needs can.

We were 4-12 before Fox came in, Elway helped infuse talent in the roster and Fox coached them to a 8-8 season in his first year and a division title.
It had been 6 years previous to that since we had won a division title and made the playoffs.

He has a proven track record of turning around down trodden franchises.
He did it with the Panthers, he did it here and he will likely do so with the Bears as well.

The talent got better and so did our record under Fox, nabbing Manning was a coup no doubt but Manning alone did not get us to the SB.
He was the coach we needed to right the ship and then he moved on.

I see no reason why fans cannot acknowledge that whilst he had his major faults and cost us in certain playoff games that he also was a big reason as to why we were able to get there.

Your opinion does not outweigh 46-18 with 4 division titles.

ColoradoDarin
09-01-2015, 12:44 PM
There are plenty of QB's who would not have won the SB for that 2000 Raven teams. They needed a game manager and he was exactly that. Perfect fit for that team.
Dominant defense alone doesn't win you a SB, mixing that dominant defense with a QB who fits your needs can.

We were 4-12 before Fox came in, Elway helped infuse talent in the roster and Fox coached them to a 8-8 season in his first year and a division title.
It had been 6 years previous to that since we had won a division title and made the playoffs.

He has a proven track record of turning around down trodden franchises.
He did it with the Panthers, he did it here and he will likely do so with the Bears as well.

The talent got better and so did our record under Fox, nabbing Manning was a coup no doubt but Manning alone did not get us to the SB.
He was the coach we needed to right the ship and then he moved on.

I see no reason why fans cannot acknowledge that whilst he had his major faults and cost us in certain playoff games that he also was a big reason as to why we were able to get there.

Your opinion does not outweigh 46-18 with 4 division titles.

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broncosteven
09-01-2015, 12:46 PM
Not for nothing, but CJ's longest run is like 27 yards.

Small sample size as well.

KM went his whole career with a long of only 36 yards. BTW is he on a team? Didn't see him listed as active.

Gort
09-01-2015, 12:52 PM
There are plenty of QB's who would not have won the SB for that 2000 Raven teams. They needed a game manager and he was exactly that. Perfect fit for that team.
Dominant defense alone doesn't win you a SB, mixing that dominant defense with a QB who fits your needs can.

We were 4-12 before Fox came in, Elway helped infuse talent in the roster and Fox coached them to a 8-8 season in his first year and a division title.
It had been 6 years previous to that since we had won a division title and made the playoffs.

He has a proven track record of turning around down trodden franchises.
He did it with the Panthers, he did it here and he will likely do so with the Bears as well.

The talent got better and so did our record under Fox, nabbing Manning was a coup no doubt but Manning alone did not get us to the SB.
He was the coach we needed to right the ship and then he moved on.

I see no reason why fans cannot acknowledge that whilst he had his major faults and cost us in certain playoff games that he also was a big reason as to why we were able to get there.

Your opinion does not outweigh 46-18 with 4 division titles.

what was his record against the Patriots? what was his record against the SeaChickens? how about the Ravens? Colts? i am afraid we have to judge him against the teams we need to beat to become champions. getting meaningless wins against the Raiders or Browns or Jaguars is not the measure of a coach in my opinion. it's how they prepare their team to face teams that are in their path for a championship. i don't think the latter assessment works in Fox's favor. we came up small in big games under him.

off the top of my head, i think we were 1-2 against the Colts. 2-1 against the Ravens. 0-2 against the SeaChickens. 1-5 against the Patriots. somebody else can check those records out for accuracy, but the fact is that Fox is just a mediocre coach who has success against mediocre teams. when presented with challenges against year-in-year-out playoff contenders, he didn't fare well at all.

55CrushEm
09-01-2015, 12:56 PM
There are plenty of QB's who would not have won the SB for that 2000 Raven teams. They needed a game manager and he was exactly that. Perfect fit for that team.
Dominant defense alone doesn't win you a SB, mixing that dominant defense with a QB who fits your needs can.

We were 4-12 before Fox came in, Elway helped infuse talent in the roster and Fox coached them to a 8-8 season in his first year and a division title.
It had been 6 years previous to that since we had won a division title and made the playoffs.

He has a proven track record of turning around down trodden franchises.
He did it with the Panthers, he did it here and he will likely do so with the Bears as well.

The talent got better and so did our record under Fox, nabbing Manning was a coup no doubt but Manning alone did not get us to the SB.
He was the coach we needed to right the ship and then he moved on.

I see no reason why fans cannot acknowledge that whilst he had his major faults and cost us in certain playoff games that he also was a big reason as to why we were able to get there.

Your opinion does not outweigh 46-18 with 4 division titles.

I guess we just disagree. And yes, I still contend that just about any QB could've won with the 2000 Ravens. Most QBs can be effective "game managers" when that is all they NEED to be. And most QBs could've handed off to Jamaal Lewis and thrown 3 yard passes all day.....and let that defense do the rest.

Shananahan
09-01-2015, 01:05 PM
I see no reason why fans cannot acknowledge that whilst he had his major faults and cost us in certain playoff games that he also was a big reason as to why we were able to get there.
Are you just trying to start an argument, or do you actually mean this?

SonOfLe-loLang
09-01-2015, 01:12 PM
Small sample size as well.

KM went his whole career with a long of only 36 yards. BTW is he on a team? Didn't see him listed as active.

i know, i was more or less saying it to be a pain in the ass.

Requiem
09-01-2015, 01:32 PM
Small sample size as well.

KM went his whole career with a long of only 36 yards. BTW is he on a team? Didn't see him listed as active.

Not on a team. However, he is done for the season because of his knee. It was reported on DraftDiamonds a week or two ago. His career is probably over.

BroncoBeavis
09-01-2015, 01:45 PM
Not on a team. However, he is done for the season because of his knee. It was reported on DraftDiamonds a week or two ago. His career is probably over.

Man that would suck. Glad he saw at least one payday.

CHEF LUIGI
09-01-2015, 02:22 PM
There are plenty of QB's who would not have won the SB for that 2000 Raven teams. They needed a game manager and he was exactly that. Perfect fit for that team.
Dominant defense alone doesn't win you a SB, mixing that dominant defense with a QB who fits your needs can.

We were 4-12 before Fox came in, Elway helped infuse talent in the roster and Fox coached them to a 8-8 season in his first year and a division title.
It had been 6 years previous to that since we had won a division title and made the playoffs.

He has a proven track record of turning around down trodden franchises.
He did it with the Panthers, he did it here and he will likely do so with the Bears as well.

The talent got better and so did our record under Fox, nabbing Manning was a coup no doubt but Manning alone did not get us to the SB.
He was the coach we needed to right the ship and then he moved on.

I see no reason why fans cannot acknowledge that whilst he had his major faults and cost us in certain playoff games that he also was a big reason as to why we were able to get there.

Your opinion does not outweigh 46-18 with 4 division titles.after the immature and insecure josh mc dumbass, FOX was exactly the right guy for the job.
as a HC he was not too shabby.
But now we want someone who only understands the pursuit of championships, and that's why we have KUBES !

SouthStndJunkie
09-01-2015, 02:27 PM
Not on a team. However, he is done for the season because of his knee. It was reported on DraftDiamonds a week or two ago. His career is probably over.

That's a shame for Knowshown.

He looked like he was poised to have a good season with the Dolphins last year....of course he only played in a couple of games, in which he only carried the ball a few times, after getting hurt in the regular season opener against New England, when he ran for 134 yards.

SouthStndJunkie
09-01-2015, 02:32 PM
Knowshon still played for 6 seasons as a RB, which is not the position you want to play if you want a long and healthy career.

I'll always remember stepping up down the stretch in 2012 and during the 2013 season after being basically forgot about for a few seasons.

I'll give him credit for working hard and taking advantage of his second chance when he finally got it.

CHEF LUIGI
09-01-2015, 02:34 PM
Again.....prove the cause and effect relationship.

Any QB in the league would've won a Superbowl on that 2000 Ravens team......just like most any coach in the league could've gotten Denver to a Superbowl with the offense we had in 2013.

To say John Fox was "key" to our success is overstating his abilities.....just my opinion.

Another silly comparison......I may fly out to Denver for a game this year. If they win, I'll come home and say they won BECAUSE I attended.......Any QB in the league would've won a Superbowl on that 2000 Ravens
tony banks, akili smith
ryan leaf?
DIFER was not a game changer but he was hardly an innocent bystander.
Fox, although I agree , just along for the ride did influence our team on D and collectively with a positive self image and professionalism in our foundation.
stability and structure.

crush17
09-01-2015, 03:19 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Raiders?src=hash">#Raiders</a> placed starting RT Menelik Watson on IR.</p>&mdash; Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) <a href="https://twitter.com/caplannfl/status/638823471980523521">September 1, 2015</a></blockquote>
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crush17
09-01-2015, 03:21 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bears?src=hash">#Bears</a> add QB Zac Dysert off waivers, will release Shane Carden: <a href="http://t.co/RrAWb4SrCm">http://t.co/RrAWb4SrCm</a></p>&mdash; Adam Jahns (@adamjahns) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamjahns/status/638814805109903360">September 1, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Action
09-01-2015, 03:28 PM
Knowshon still played for 6 seasons as a RB, which is not the position you want to play if you want a long and healthy career.

I'll always remember stepping up down the stretch in 2012 and during the 2013 season after being basically forgot about for a few seasons.

I'll give him credit for working hard and taking advantage of his second chance when he finally got it.

He was on the SB team..and started. He was huge in beating the Patriots.

Ragnar
09-01-2015, 03:29 PM
There are plenty of QB's who would not have won the SB for that 2000 Raven teams. They needed a game manager and he was exactly that. Perfect fit for that team.
Dominant defense alone doesn't win you a SB, mixing that dominant defense with a QB who fits your needs can.

We were 4-12 before Fox came in, Elway helped infuse talent in the roster and Fox coached them to a 8-8 season in his first year and a division title.
It had been 6 years previous to that since we had won a division title and made the playoffs.

He has a proven track record of turning around down trodden franchises.
He did it with the Panthers, he did it here and he will likely do so with the Bears as well.

The talent got better and so did our record under Fox, nabbing Manning was a coup no doubt but Manning alone did not get us to the SB.
He was the coach we needed to right the ship and then he moved on.

I see no reason why fans cannot acknowledge that whilst he had his major faults and cost us in certain playoff games that he also was a big reason as to why we were able to get there.

Your opinion does not outweigh 46-18 with 4 division titles.

Ridiculous. That Ravens team would have won the Superbowl with more than half of the QB's starting on NFL teams. at the time.

Jake Plummer
Chris Chandler
Rob Johnson
Steve Beuerlein
Cade McNown
Akili Smith
Tim Couch
Randal Cunningham
Brian Griese
Stoney Case
Brett Farve
David Carr
Peyton Manning
Mark Brunell
Elvis Grbac
Jay Fielder
Daunte Culpepper
Drew Bledsoe
Kerry Collins
Vinny Testeverde
Jeff Blake
Rich Gannon
Donovan McNabb
Kent Graham
Ryan Leaf
Jeff Garcia
Jon Kitna
Kurt Warner
Shaun King
Steve McNair
Brad Johnson

Lots of names on that list that could have done what Dilfer did, only better.

GreatBronco16
09-01-2015, 03:37 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bears?src=hash">#Bears</a> add QB Zac Dysert off waivers, will release Shane Carden: <a href="http://t.co/RrAWb4SrCm">http://t.co/RrAWb4SrCm</a></p>&mdash; Adam Jahns (@adamjahns) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamjahns/status/638814805109903360">September 1, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Can't say I'm shocked.

Rohirrim
09-01-2015, 05:19 PM
Can't say I'm shocked.

Cutler's dad on the way to Bears' HQ with Jay's playbook.

SouthStndJunkie
09-01-2015, 06:00 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/01/browns-cut-former-first-rounder-phil-taylor/

Browns cut former first-rounder Phil Taylor

SouthStndJunkie
09-01-2015, 06:01 PM
That's a surprising cut....Phil Taylor played well at times in Cleveland.

Shananahan
09-01-2015, 06:17 PM
I read he asked for it after he lost his starting spot or something.

Denver should sign him and have him learn under Kilgo for a year or two.

Action
09-01-2015, 06:23 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Browns got 5 picks in Julio deal:
* Phil Taylor
* Greg Little
* Owen Marecic
* Brandon Weeden
* 4th rder to move up 1 slot to draft T-Rich</p>&mdash; Field Yates (@FieldYates) <a href="https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/638813422147211264">September 1, 2015</a></blockquote>
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factory of sadness

KCStud
09-01-2015, 06:28 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Browns got 5 picks in Julio deal:
* Phil Taylor
* Greg Little
* Owen Marecic
* Brandon Weeden
* 4th rder to move up 1 slot to draft T-Rich</p>&mdash; Field Yates (@FieldYates) <a href="https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/638813422147211264">September 1, 2015</a></blockquote>
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factory of sadness

They also gave their 3rd round pick to KC to move up for Phil Taylor. The Chiefs used that draft pick on Justin Houston.

Shattuck
09-01-2015, 07:32 PM
I'm amazed at how one organization can be that bad at everything. I can't help but think if their goal was to draft the worst available player with their picks the success rate would be better.

CHEF LUIGI
09-01-2015, 07:49 PM
Cutler's dad on the way to Bears' HQ with Jay's playbook.thanks for the laugh !

Traveler
09-01-2015, 08:52 PM
Kick returner Trindon Holliday, the 5-foot-5 former track star who has made some big plays but also had some costly fumbles in his NFL career, was among the veterans the Raiders cut today.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/01/trindon-holliday-among-the-cuts-as-raiders-get-down-to-75/


Any takers?

BroncosfanGuy
09-01-2015, 09:19 PM
Stoney Case


rep for the Stoney Case reference

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
09-01-2015, 09:52 PM
I saw Phil Taylor. Should we keep him up on a 1 year vet and just cut ties with Sly Williams?

NFL Roster Cuts Tracker
402

NFL.com
Published: Aug. 31, 2015 at 04:05 p.m. Updated: Sept. 1, 2015 at 07:19 p.m.
Cut day is looming with NFL teams required to trim the roster to 75 players by Tuesday, Sept. 1, and down to 53 by Saturday, Sept. 5. Here are the players who were released before the deadline:



Arizona Cardinals
Cuts: P Dave Zastudil, LB Lorenzo Alexander, LB Glenn Carson, T Rob Crisp, G Nate Isles, LB Edwin Jackson, LB Andrae Kirk, S Shaquille Richardson, TE Gannon Sinclair, WR Ryan Spadola, S Darren Woodard



Atlanta Falcons
Cuts: LB Boris Anyama, LB Jonathon Mincy, WR Marquez Clark, RB Michael Ford, WR John Harris, DT Warren Herring, NT Derrick Hopkins, OT Matt Huffer, CB Mike Lee, G Eric Lefeld, LB Terrell Manning, DE Sam Meredith, C Valerian Ume-Ezeoke



Baltimore Ravens
Cuts: G Leon Brown, WR DeAndre Carter, CB Tramain Jacobs, G/T Marcel Jones, P Justin Manton, WR Aldrick Robinson, LS Patrick Scales, WR Trent Steelman



Buffalo Bills

Cuts: RB Fred Jackson, DE Michael Buchanan, CB Ross Cockrell, DT Justin Hamilton, LB Andrew Hudson, OT Terren Jones, CB Ellis Lankster, S Kenny Ladler, S Wesley Miller, G D.J. Morrell, DE Cedric Reed, RB Ricky Seale



Carolina Panthers

Cuts: WR Jarrett Boykin, OT Tony Hills, WR Paul Browning, WR Avius Capers, DE Steve Miller, LB Kevin Reddick, TE Dallas Walker, FB Lee Ward, P Matt Wile, DT Kenneth Horsley, S Robert Lester, WR/CB De'Andre Presley



Chicago Bears
Cuts: CB Tim Jennings, DB Malcolm Bronson, QB Shane Carden, TE Kevin Greene, T Cameron Jefferson, WR Jeremy Kelley, CB Al Louis-Jean, LS Rick Lovato, G Lucas Nix, WR Levi Norwood, DE Olsen Pierre, TE Chris Pantale, WR John Chiles




Cincinnati Bengals
Cuts: WR Denarius Moore, DT Kwame Geathers, LB Nico Johnson, WR Onterio McCalebb, DE Sam Montgomery




Cleveland Browns
Cuts: DT Phil Taylor, TE Anthony Ezeakunne, WR Shane Wynn, LB Everette Brown, LB Moise Fokou, RB Jalen Parmele, DB Aaron Ross




Dallas Cowboys
Cuts: TE Brandon Barden, WR Phil Bates, DE Kenneth Boatright, LB Jonathan Brown, T R.J. Dill, WR Antwan Goodley, RB Michael Hill, P Tom Hornsey, LS Casey Kreiter, WR David Porter, CB Robert Steeples, DT Carlif Taylor




Denver Broncos
Cuts: TE Dan Light, LB Danny Mason, WR Nathan Palmer




Green Bay Packers
Cuts: QB Matt Blanchard, WR James Butler, LB Tavarus Dantzler, T Fabbians Ebbele, LB Josh Francis, DT Lavon Hooks, LB Adrian Hubbard, T Vince Kowalski, TE Harold Spears




Houston Texans
Cuts: T Aaron Adams, LB Jason Ankrah, WR Alan Bonner, WR Jace Davis, P Will Johnson, WR Travis Labhart, DE Cam McLeod, NT Chris Neild, LB Jeff Tarpinian, G Cody White, T Bryan Witzmann




Indianapolis Colts
Cuts: G Donald Thomas, G Harland Gunn, LB Nicklas Haag, LB Zack Hodges, OT Tyler Hoover, WR Ryan Lankford, DT Jeris Pendleton, WR Ezell Ruffin, LB Justin Shirk, RB Abou Toure, C Brandon Vitabile




Jacksonville Jaguars
Cuts: WR Greg Jenkins, LB Mister Alexander, DE Camaron Beard, OL Cody Booth, CB Tommie Campbell, S Desmond Cooper, DT Eric Crume, WR Tandon Doss, LB Khairi Fortt, TE Connor Hamlett, K/P Kasey Redfern, OL Jack Rummells, QB Jeff Tuel




Kansas City Chiefs
Cuts: WR Kenny Cook, OT Anthony Dima, LS Andrew East, WR Junior Hemingway, CB Aaron Hester, DE Vaughn Martin, CB Kenneth Penny, OG Marcus Reed, T Tavon Rooks, TE Adam Schiltz, WR Jeret Smith, OL Charles Tuaau, WR L'Damian Washington




Miami Dolphins
Cuts: DT Calvin Barnett, RB Demitrius Bronson, G Bryant Browning, WR LaRon Byrd, WR Kevin Cone, DE Ray Drew, P Brandon Fields, WR Tyler McDonald, DE Kendall Montgomery, TE Gerell Robinson, CB Sammy Seamster, S Phillip Thomas, C/G J.D. Walton




Minnesota Vikings
Cuts: RB Joe Banyard, TE Brandon Bostick, OT Carter Bykowski, CB Jalil Carter, CB Justin Coleman, WR DaVaris Daniels, T Stephen Goodin, LB Josh Kaddu, QB Mike Kafka, WR Jordan Leslie, DE Caesar Rayford, DT Chrishon Rose, CB DeMarcus Van Dyke




New England Patriots
Cuts: WR Josh Boyce, WR Jonathan Krause, TE Jimmay Mundine, DL Joe Vellano, LB Dekoda Watson




New Orleans Saints
Cuts: Wr Nick Toon, CB Terrence Frederick, WR R.J. Harris, DT David Hunter, OT Antonio Johnson, WR Lance Lewis, G Cole Manhart, CB Travis Manning, DE Markus Pierce-Brewster, LB Chris Young, FB Erik Lorig, LB Ronald Powell, S Vinnie Sunseri




New York Giants
Cuts: OL Michael Bamiro, WR Juron Criner, G Eric Herman, S Justin Halley, RB Akeem Hunt, WR Derrick Johnson, P Robert Malone, OL Brandon Mosley, DL Jordan Stanton, DL Jimmy Staten, TE Will Tye




New York Jets
Cuts: CB Javier Arenas, OL James Brewer, CB Curtis Brown, C Dalton Freeman, WR T.J. Graham, WR Saalim Hakim, WR Austin Hill, LB Bryan Johnson, TE Matt LaCosse, CB Keith Lewis, WR DeVier Posey, WR Jonathon Rumph




Oakland Raiders
Cuts: P Steven Clark, CB Robertson Daniel, CB James Dockery, DB Ras-I Dowling, QB Cody Fajardo, WR Josh Harper, WR Trindon Holliday, G Lamar Mady, RB Trent Richardson, WR Kenbrell Thompkins, WR Milton Williams III




Philadelphia Eagles
Cuts: CB Marc Anthony, S Brandan Bishop, OL Mike Coccia, OL Kevin Graf, DE Alfy Hill, WR Mike Johnson, WR G.J. Kinne, LB Dasman McCullum, RB Kevin Monangai, WR Josh Reese, DE Jeremy Towns, TE Justin Tukes, OL Jared Wheeler




Pittsburgh Steelers
G Miles Dieffenbach, WR Kenzel Doe, WR C.J. Goodwin, RB Braylon Heard, DE Joe Kruger, DT Joe Okafor, OL Collin Rahrig, CB Jordan Sullen, OT Kevin Whimpey, S Ian Wild




St. Louis Rams
Cuts: T Steven Baker, T Travis Bond, CB Imoan Claiborne, S Jay Hughes, LB Keshaun Malone, LS Tyler Ott, K/P Michael Palardy, WR Tyler Slavin, C David Wang, WR Damian Williams, DT Doug Worthington




San Diego Chargers
Cuts: CB Manny Asprilla, DL Cameron Botticelli, WR Titus Davis, RB Jahwan Edwards, LB Curtis Grant, LB Brock Hekking, T Forrestal Hickman, TE David Paulson, QB Chase Rettig, DL Luther Robinson, TE Logan Stokes, WR Torrence Allen, CB Chris Davis, S Gordon Hill, G Melvin Meggs




San Francisco 49ers
Cuts: K Corey Acosta, LB Steve Beauharnais, CB Mylan Hicks, T Sean Hooey, WR Mario Hull, WR Chuck Jacobs, WR Nigel King, LB Shawn Lemon, FB Trey Millard, DL Lawrence Okoye




Seattle Seahawks
Cuts: T Jesse Davis, CB George Farmer, WR Deshon Foxx, WR Deontay Greenberry, C Lemuel Jeanpierre, CB Keelan Johnson, LB Quayshawn Nealy, DE Greg Scruggs, DT D'Anthony Smith, S Ty Zimmerman




Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Cuts: RB Dominique Brown, DT Quayshawne Buckley, OL Antoine Everett, LS Brandon Hartson, FB Joey Iosefa, S Kimario McFadden, P Karl Schmitz, CB Al-Hajj Shabazz, DE George Uko, DE Jamal Young, P Michael Koenen, WR Robert Herron, CB Leonard Johnson, C Josh Allen




Tennessee Titans
Cuts: LB Nate Askew, CB Will Brown, LB Dezmond Johnson, WR Tebucky Jones, WR Deon Long, DE Derrick Lott, G Justin McCray, K Mike Meyer, LB Chaz Sutton, C Fernando Velasco, TE Tevin Westbrook, S Josh Aubrey




Washington Redskins
Cuts: TE Ernst Brun, LB Dyshawn Davis, TE Chase Dixon, CB Tajh Hasson, LB Alonzo Highsmith, CB DreQuan Hoskey, WR Tony Jones, K Ty Long, TE Devin Mahina, G Bryce Quigley, OT Willie Smith, CB Thomas Wolfe, CB Bryan McCann

pricejj
09-01-2015, 09:54 PM
I saw Phil Taylor. Should we keep him up on a 1 year vet and just cut ties with Sly Williams?

Will never happen. Sly costs more to cut than he does to keep.

Requiem
09-01-2015, 09:55 PM
Pretty sure Phil Taylor was given an injury settlement too. Why the **** would we pick him up?

Rocket 7
09-01-2015, 10:02 PM
rep for the Stoney Case reference

Go Lobos!

underrated29
09-01-2015, 10:58 PM
Isn't lb Kevin reddick a guy everyone was losing their testicles for? Or was that just me...


I know we are more than good at wr, but I like Jordan Leslie a fair amount. Good size, real fast.

IndelibleScribe
09-01-2015, 11:14 PM
Ridiculous. That Ravens team would have won the Superbowl with more than half of the QB's starting on NFL teams. at the time.

Jake Plummer
Chris Chandler
Rob Johnson
Steve Beuerlein
Cade McNown
Akili Smith
Tim Couch
Randal Cunningham
Brian Griese
Stoney Case
Brett Farve
David Carr
Peyton Manning
Mark Brunell
Elvis Grbac
Jay Fielder
Daunte Culpepper
Drew Bledsoe
Kerry Collins
Vinny Testeverde
Jeff Blake
Rich Gannon
Donovan McNabb
Kent Graham
Ryan Leaf
Jeff Garcia
Jon Kitna
Kurt Warner
Shaun King
Steve McNair
Brad Johnson

Lots of names on that list that could have done what Dilfer did, only better.

Graham, Carr, Case, Couch, Smith, McNown and Rob Johnson would have never won a SB even with that defense. Saying so is damn near absurd.

Mentioning Leaf period is absurd.

Cunningham was pure **** from 1999 on, Grbac was the QB the year after Dilfer with essentially the same team and sucked ass.
Vinny T, not going to happen. Starting throwing too many picks. Fielder was always crappy.

Almost all of the QB's you mentioned had turnover issues in 2000 aside from the obvious superstars.

SonOfLe-loLang
09-01-2015, 11:21 PM
Cut our starting nose tackle for some dude just cut by the Browns.

The Mane

2KBack
09-02-2015, 06:29 AM
Graham, Carr, Case, Couch, Smith, McNown and Rob Johnson would have never won a SB even with that defense. Saying so is damn near absurd.

Mentioning Leaf period is absurd.

Cunningham was pure **** from 1999 on, Grbac was the QB the year after Dilfer with essentially the same team and sucked ass.
Vinny T, not going to happen. Starting throwing too many picks. Fielder was always crappy.

Almost all of the QB's you mentioned had turnover issues in 2000 aside from the obvious superstars.

Dilfer had Turnover issues too man, he threw 11 ints in only 8 games. It just didn't matter with that defense. The difference in the next season was the defense allowing 6 more points per game and Losing Jamal Lewis for the year, the QB play was a wash.

Johnykbr
09-02-2015, 07:00 AM
Graham, Carr, Case, Couch, Smith, McNown and Rob Johnson would have never won a SB even with that defense. Saying so is damn near absurd.

Mentioning Leaf period is absurd.

Cunningham was pure **** from 1999 on, Grbac was the QB the year after Dilfer with essentially the same team and sucked ass.
Vinny T, not going to happen. Starting throwing too many picks. Fielder was always crappy.

Almost all of the QB's you mentioned had turnover issues in 2000 aside from the obvious superstars.

Well David Carr wouldn't have won because he wasn't in the league in 2000...

Ragnar
09-02-2015, 08:21 AM
Graham, Carr, Case, Couch, Smith, McNown and Rob Johnson would have never won a SB even with that defense. Saying so is damn near absurd.

Mentioning Leaf period is absurd.

Cunningham was pure **** from 1999 on, Grbac was the QB the year after Dilfer with essentially the same team and sucked ass.
Vinny T, not going to happen. Starting throwing too many picks. Fielder was always crappy.

Almost all of the QB's you mentioned had turnover issues in 2000 aside from the obvious superstars.

My bad. I only mentioned EVERY quarterback that was available at the time as a starter. I should have articulated that it was your job to pick the more than half that would have won.

SonOfLe-loLang
09-02-2015, 09:29 AM
This "which QB could have won a Super Bowl with the Ravens" argument might be one of the dumber we've had on the Mane recently.

2KBack
09-02-2015, 09:39 AM
This "which QB could have won a Super Bowl with the Ravens" argument might be one of the dumber we've had on the Mane recently.

Dumb or not, it takes 2 sides to make an argument.

DENVERDUI55
09-02-2015, 09:43 AM
This "which QB could have won a Super Bowl with the Ravens" argument might be one of the dumber we've had on the Mane recently.

It'd just one of those should have, would have, could have, but didn't convo.

SonOfLe-loLang
09-02-2015, 09:43 AM
Dumb or not, it takes 2 sides to make an argument.

Why not just frame it like you really mean it:

In a vacuum, QBs I'd prefer over Trent Dilfer.

Eldorado
09-02-2015, 09:53 AM
Why not just frame it like you really mean it:

In a vaccum, QBs I'd prefer over Trent Dilfer.

Uhh none? They'd all be dead.

uplink
09-02-2015, 10:02 AM
I'd go with Brady in a vacuum, because I wouldn't hear his girly crying.

SouthStndJunkie
09-02-2015, 10:17 AM
The Saints will reportedly be starting the regular season without one of their starting cornerbacks.

Ian Rapoport of NFL Media reports that Keenan Lewis had hip surgery on Tuesday. Lewis is expected to miss 4-6 weeks as a result of the operation, which would put his return sometime in October. The Saints face the Cardinals, Buccaneers, Panthers and Cowboys in the first four weeks of the season.

Maleficent
09-02-2015, 10:55 PM
Redskins GM’s Wife Tweets ESPN Reporter Used Oral Sex to Get Scoops

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“I deeply apologize for the disparaging remarks about an ESPN reporter on my personal Twitter account. The comment was unfounded and inappropriate, and I have the utmost respect for both the reporter and ESPN.
I regret that my actions have brought undeserved negative attention to the Redskins organization and its leadership. My comments in no way reflect the opinions or attitudes of the organization and I regret that my behavior has in any way negatively impacted the team and its loyal fan base.”
– Jessica McCloughan

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BroncsCheer
09-02-2015, 10:59 PM
Redskins GM’s Wife Tweets ESPN Reporter Used Oral Sex to Get Scoops

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“I deeply apologize for the disparaging remarks about an ESPN reporter on my personal Twitter account. The comment was unfounded and inappropriate, and I have the utmost respect for both the reporter and ESPN.
I regret that my actions have brought undeserved negative attention to the Redskins organization and its leadership. My comments in no way reflect the opinions or attitudes of the organization and I regret that my behavior has in any way negatively impacted the team and its loyal fan base.”
– Jessica McCloughan

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Hahahahahaha!!!! The old backpedal in all its glory right there. Hahahahaha!!

Rocket 7
09-02-2015, 11:06 PM
Redskins GM’s Wife Tweets ESPN Reporter Used Oral Sex to Get Scoops

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“I deeply apologize for the disparaging remarks about an ESPN reporter on my personal Twitter account. The comment was unfounded and inappropriate, and I have the utmost respect for both the reporter and ESPN.
I regret that my actions have brought undeserved negative attention to the Redskins organization and its leadership. My comments in no way reflect the opinions or attitudes of the organization and I regret that my behavior has in any way negatively impacted the team and its loyal fan base.”
– Jessica McCloughan

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She was doing her job by giving a job.

IndelibleScribe
09-02-2015, 11:13 PM
As they say, for every hot woman. There is a guy that is tired of her ****.
Is it ****ed up that I immediately assumed it was Josina Anderson before I saw the twitter name?

delany
09-02-2015, 11:33 PM
Why anybody in the public eye or related to anyone in the public eye, has a twitter account is beyond me.

Agamemnon
09-02-2015, 11:40 PM
I love how she's scoffing at a five figure income when all she did was marry a rich dude. That's hilarious.

stopgap
09-03-2015, 12:15 AM
I love how she's scoffing at a five figure income when all she did was marry a rich dude. That's hilarious.

Ha!


Don't know her history but good point.

IndelibleScribe
09-03-2015, 09:38 AM
Why anybody in the public eye or related to anyone in the public eye, has a twitter account is beyond me.

People feel the need to have their opinion heard. Same reason anonymous people sign up for a website to talk about sports.

IndelibleScribe
09-03-2015, 09:39 AM
I love how she's scoffing at a five figure income when all she did was marry a rich dude. That's hilarious.

Even more hilarious is that the financial demographic she just scoffed it is how her husband stays gainfully employed.

Drunken.Broncoholic2
09-03-2015, 07:41 PM
Philly may keep tebow for 2 pt conversions cause their kickers keep missing extra points.

Smiling Assassin27
09-04-2015, 08:56 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">49ers released DT Darnell Dockett, per league source.</p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/639813880189841409">September 4, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Kaylore
09-04-2015, 09:02 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">49ers released DT Darnell Dockett, per league source.</p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/639813880189841409">September 4, 2015</a></blockquote>
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He used to be really good.

yerner
09-04-2015, 09:14 AM
wow. i wonder if dockett sorts out his rib injury if he could help. he was playing at a fairly high level not too long ago.