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SonOfLe-loLang
08-29-2014, 04:40 PM
Did Raider backups do better than Broncos starters?

Go be an asshole troll somewhere else

SouthStndJunkie
08-29-2014, 07:06 PM
Matt McCoin of the Raiders had a pretty good game last week. You have to know that Carr played against the depth of Seahawks (which we destroyed) and doesn't mean Carr = Raiders good. Schaub has two guys ready to take his job if he keeps sucking eggs. Maybe Raiders have a better future as the present and past has been the worst.

This isn't necessarily about Derek Carr or Matt McGloin being ready to go in and lead the Raiders....although I think Derek Carr has the potential to be a good NFL QB, it's about Matt Schaub being ready for the scrap heap.

stoxman
08-29-2014, 07:13 PM
ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk 10m
The Seahawks are releasing Terrelle Pryor, per league source.


Interesting. Would think his upside is a bit higher than Dysert. I say he will be claimed...St. Louis?

theAPAOps5
08-29-2014, 07:36 PM
The most shocking thing to me is the Raiders offense looked much better than the Broncos against the Seahawks.

Troll troll troll your boat

ScottXray
08-29-2014, 07:36 PM
ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk 10m
The Seahawks are releasing Terrelle Pryor, per league source.


Interesting. Would think his upside is a bit higher than Dysert. I say he will be claimed...St. Louis?

Likely...their backup for Bradford is Shyt and won't get it done. They were thinking of just not LOSING the game on O and letting their D win what they can. Pryor has a lot more upside than that.

Also it would be sweet if he took their ( Hee Hawks) playbook along and let Fisher study it.

oubronco
08-29-2014, 07:39 PM
C'mon man Pryor sucks

ScottXray
08-29-2014, 07:44 PM
C'mon man Pryor sucks


Yes, but Slightly less than ST Louis's current QB! And Pryor CAN be effective if given time, and is able to run if he isn't..

If Dysert is released Fisher will be looking our way too.

Drunken.Broncoholic2
08-29-2014, 07:46 PM
Did Raider backups do better than Broncos starters?

You do realize only one or 2 series were played by bronco starters....SERIES. Not quarters. Which by the way had no problems scoring a TD.

BroncosfanGuy
08-29-2014, 07:54 PM
Yes, but Slightly less than ST Louis's current QB!

not really

Shattuck
08-29-2014, 08:07 PM
You do realize only one or 2 series were played by bronco starters....SERIES. Not quarters. Which by the way had no problems scoring a TD.

Are you saying the Bronco starters are better than the Raiders backups?

Shattuck
08-29-2014, 08:09 PM
Troll troll troll your boat

Gently down the stream the Raiders offense is but a dream.

broncosteven
08-29-2014, 08:14 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Interesting. Only one NFL team played its starting quarterback (and most of its starters) tonight. And that team won it all last year.</p>&mdash; Vic Lombardi (@VicLombardi) <a href="https://twitter.com/VicLombardi/statuses/505198348328898560">August 29, 2014</a></blockquote>
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The Browns won the SB last year?

They had their starters out there vs duh bears deep into the game then switched over to Cocaine Timmy.

broncosteven
08-29-2014, 08:17 PM
Yeah I was scratching my head seeing the Seahawks playing their starters in the fourth preseason game. Carroll is weird. And odder still was seeing them get destroyed. Derek Carr looks legit. One of the few times I was rooting for the Raiders.

Maybe Carol was concerned about their TC and wanted to go into the RS on the right note. Sounds like it backfired, I didn't know Oakland beat them down, I was busy last night working on PTO stuff.

Drunken.Broncoholic2
08-29-2014, 08:23 PM
Are you saying the Bronco starters are better than the Raiders backups?

I'm saying our resident trolls are better than a visiting one.

Shattuck
08-29-2014, 08:32 PM
I'm saying our resident trolls are better than a visiting one.

Some of you guys put yourselves into a corner just pointing that out if that makes me a troll not much I can do about that.

LikeABoss5820
08-29-2014, 08:53 PM
<s>@</s>McClain_on_NFL (https://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL): Confirming <s>#</s>Texans (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash) have released cornerback Brandon Harris, a 2011 second-round pick. <s>@</s>JPalmerCSN (https://twitter.com/JPalmerCSN) was first to report.

Yes please, wont make it to us though.

mennonite
08-29-2014, 09:01 PM
Orton is going to need to grow his neckbeard extra thick this year - he's just signed a deal with the Bills.

oubronco
08-29-2014, 09:04 PM
Billy Goat?

Drunken.Broncoholic2
08-29-2014, 09:04 PM
Some of you guys put yourselves into a corner just pointing that out if that makes me a troll not much I can do about that.


Put ourselves into a corner? I haven't seen one logical football post from you. Just a bunch of blah blah blah. Guess I can't do much about that.

oubronco
08-29-2014, 09:05 PM
Ignore feature?

broncosteven
08-29-2014, 09:06 PM
Derek Carr had an almost flawless game for the Raiders last night....11/13 for 143 passing yards with 3 TDs and 0 INTs.

I know it was in the final preseason game against scrubs, but it's still a bright spot for the Raiders in an already bleak season lol.

Matt Schaub has a sore elbow, he's played like **** in the preseason, and his confidence is shot.

I think it's Derek Carr time already.

I'd start Derek Carr in Week One....what do the Raiders have to lose....besides more games?

The sooner Derek Carr get in there and starts getting experience, the better the Raiders will be in the future.

The Raiders took him at the top of the 2nd round to be their franchise QB.

If Matt Schaub was looking good or merely competent, it would be a different story, but he has a sore elbow and still looks shell shocked from last season, when he established himself as the King of the Pick Six.

If Matt Schaub were in the Game of Thrones, House Schaub's sigil would be a drawing of a defensive back running one of his pick sixes into an end zone of fire.

"King of the trINT, King of the trINT!"

Schaub wasn't at the team facility today due to an excused absence for something personal per NFL.com

I actually had fun watching mCloin throw last year. He reminded me of the old school Raider's QB's like Plunkett and the dude who lost to GB in the SB. They would make some head scratching type mistakes and look bad only to chuck on deep and hit a TD.

Haven't seen Carr play.

I think their GM wanted a Vet to stabilize the team then have the youth develop and push the Vet. Schaub never had a deep arm and it appears to be even worse this year. They made some odd moves this offseason, they could either be historically bad or beat out kFc for 3rd in the division at 7-9.

Shattuck
08-29-2014, 09:10 PM
Put ourselves into a corner? I haven't seen one logical football post from you. Just a bunch of blah blah blah. Guess I can't do much about that.

You have seen many logical posts from me you just choose not to admit it.

Guess Who
08-29-2014, 09:11 PM
Orton is going to need to grow his neckbeard extra thick this year - he's just signed a deal with the Bills.

Why didn't he want to be Romo's backup in Dallas?? They were paying him over $3 million a year I believe.

BroncosfanGuy
08-29-2014, 09:17 PM
Why didn't he want to be Romo's backup in Dallas?? They were paying him over $3 million a year I believe.

maybe he didn't want to compete with an 84-year-old Brandon Weeden for backup. or maybe he just didn't want to play for Dallas. I don't blame anyone for not wanting to play for Dallas.

Drunken.Broncoholic2
08-29-2014, 09:22 PM
Schaub wasn't at the team facility today due to an excused absence for something personal per NFL.com

I actually had fun watching mCloin throw last year. He reminded me of the old school Raider's QB's like Plunkett and the dude who lost to GB in the SB. They would make some head scratching type mistakes and look bad only to chuck on deep and hit a TD.

Haven't seen Carr play.

I think their GM wanted a Vet to stabilize the team then have the youth develop and push the Vet. Schaub never had a deep arm and it appears to be even worse this year. They made some odd moves this offseason, they could either be historically bad or beat out kFc for 3rd in the division at 7-9.



I've watched Carr all preseason since out here Oakland games get played. He has been making all the throws and looks legit. Problem is Oaklands Oline is trash. Some rookies with good arms have been ruined due to throwing them in too quick behind bad Olines. They have a big decision to make cause I can't see much success with schaub.

Shattuck
08-29-2014, 09:25 PM
Jerry jones has turned Dallas into a dumpster fire I'm not sure anyone wants to be there. Jerry Jones and his ego still think he will turn the boys back into a contender. Why does this remind me so much of how Al Davis and the Raiders spiraled out of control?

mennonite
08-29-2014, 09:26 PM
Why didn't he want to be Romo's backup in Dallas?? They were paying him over $3 million a year I believe.

Jerry was hogging all the best skanks.

theAPAOps5
08-29-2014, 09:32 PM
Jerry jones has turned Dallas into a dumpster fire I'm not sure anyone wants to be there. Jerry Jones and his ego still think he will turn the boys back into a contender. Why does this remind me so much of how Al Davis and the Raiders spiraled out of control?

Owners should really just come in and sign checks and fire people. They make really ****ty GM's. The rumor is he had Johnny Manziels name on the paper and ready to turn in at the draft. His son stopped it.

mennonite
08-29-2014, 09:42 PM
Here are a few comments about the Orton signing from a Bills message board:


"EJ will have a fun time picking Orton's brain. He has a wealth of football knowledge"

"He could be our starter week 3"

"Orton will be the starter, Tuel as his back up and give useless EJ a clip board! I'm loving this!"


"I bet Orton will drill into EJ how talented he is and how much work he has put in. And help install that extra bit of confidence for greatness. "

"Orton could get us to the playoffs. Now if EJ sucks by week 3 Marrone better be ready to pull the trigger. "

"Not to mention he is a student of the game and has EXCELLENT fundamentals and mechanics."

"In Orton We Trust!"

BroncosfanGuy
08-29-2014, 09:43 PM
what really sucks for Bills fans is they don't have a 1st rounder next year because they traded it away for a WR in one of the deepest WR drafts in the history of the draft

DENVERDUI55
08-29-2014, 09:43 PM
Owners should really just come in and sign checks and fire people. They make really ****ty GM's. The rumor is he had Johnny Manziels name on the paper and ready to turn in at the draft. His son stopped it.

He did override Parcells on Demarcus Ware and forced him to draft him. He also was the one who took Dez. He has some bad decisions but has made some good ones too.

DENVERDUI55
08-29-2014, 09:44 PM
Orton is going to need to grow his neckbeard extra thick this year - he's just signed a deal with the Bills.

I thought he might make his way to the Rams.

Wes Mantooth
08-29-2014, 09:45 PM
He did override Parcells on Demarcus Ware and forced him to draft him. He also was the one who took Dez. He has some bad decisions but has made some good ones too.

Dez is a good decision?

DBroncos4life
08-29-2014, 09:47 PM
Dez is a good decision?

You don't think he is elite?

theAPAOps5
08-29-2014, 09:49 PM
You don't think he is elite?

Yes, of course he is....and very unstable

DENVERDUI55
08-29-2014, 10:03 PM
Dez is a good decision?

Are you kidding me? They got a top pick in the 20's of that draft.

Drunken.Broncoholic2
08-29-2014, 10:06 PM
Dez is a good decision?

Even though he's a headcase he's an insane talent and worth every bit of his 1st round pick

mennonite
08-30-2014, 12:32 AM
Broncos Ronnie Hillman, Kayvon Webster hospitalized overnight in Dallas

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_26436135/broncos-ronnie-hillman-kayvon-webster-hospitalized


The Broncos did not disclose the nature of the illness, although the team did confirm Hillman and Webster were taken to a Dallas-area hospital for treatment and evaluation.

Both are expected to rejoin the team this weekend and be on the field for the team's first regular-season practice Monday.

Enter The Dragon
08-30-2014, 12:33 AM
Love love love DT. Dez is just a better wr when his head is right and isnt trying to beat his mom up. Its such a diff league now. Everyone is on a stupid ass media/twitter/makin it rain stage. The game is where its at.

pricejj
08-30-2014, 12:41 AM
Everyone is on a stupid ass media/twitter/makin it rain stage.

DT isn't.

Superbowl Record Most receptions, game, 13
Demaryius Thomas - Denver vs. Seattle, XLVIII


Dez would have melted down, cussed out Manning, and walked back to the locker room.

pricejj
08-30-2014, 12:44 AM
^ Dez would have quit right after the shoulder separation.

theAPAOps5
08-30-2014, 12:49 AM
DT isn't.

Superbowl Record Most receptions, game, 13
Demaryius Thomas - Denver vs. Seattle, XLVIII


Dez would have melted down, cussed out Manning, and walked back to the locker room.

So true. Dude is talented, but someone who you can count on pointing fingers and embarrassing your team when it gets rough. We dealt with that **** with Brandon Marshall, I love we have DT instead.

Enter The Dragon
08-30-2014, 12:50 AM
DT isn't.

Superbowl Record Most receptions, game, 13
Demaryius Thomas - Denver vs. Seattle, XLVIII


Dez would have melted down, cussed out Manning, and walked back to the locker room.

Thats a good point. Lets not forget DT did that with a separated shoulder. But just maybe he doesnt let Manning tuck and calls him or the team out and the game changes. Guess Im still upset with Peyton for not having a rally. Its unreal that his brother has 2 titles and totally has stunk for a couple years. Yeah lucky(helmet catch and dropped int) but he is a dif qb when its on the line.

IndelibleScribe
08-30-2014, 12:54 AM
Dez and DT are essentially of equal talent, DT comes with no drama, no issues and is a great teammate.
And this is coming from someone who was less than thrilled with us passing on Dez.

pricejj
08-30-2014, 01:05 AM
Guess Im still upset with Peyton for not having a rally.

No passing offense can succeed if the defense is allowed illegal contact all the way down the field.

Even on DT's TD reception in the 4th quarter they tried to tackle him while the ball is in the air. Why do you think we got Talib and Ward? To play the exact same way.

LikeABoss5820
08-30-2014, 07:43 AM
Its unreal that his brother has 2 titles and totally has stunk for a couple years. Yeah lucky(helmet catch and dropped int) but he is a dif qb when its on the line.

Doesnt matter when you miss the playoffs every year but 4.

Missed the playoffs in 5 or 6 years as starter, made it 4.

Glad they won those SB's but come on.

LikeABoss5820
08-30-2014, 07:46 AM
Panthers cut Tavarres King, re-claim him, cut Burse?

GoneFishin'
08-30-2014, 08:38 AM
Panthers cut Tavarres King, re-claim him, cut Burse?

Wow, if a WR hungry, starved really, team cuts you, maybe you're not cut out for NFL football.

oubronco
08-30-2014, 08:43 AM
Retweeted by Jason La Canfora (https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora)
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/446275549787201537/sPHzU7Ab_bigger.jpeg Dave Birkett ‏<S>@</S>davebirkett (https://twitter.com/davebirkett)<SMALL class=time>12m (https://twitter.com/davebirkett/status/505724174845751298) </SMALL>
The Lions have informed RB Mikel Leshoure he's being waived.

SeedReaver
08-30-2014, 09:21 AM
Dez has matured a lot since entering the league. He doesn't deserve his crazy/dramatic/headcase tag anymore.

Dez and DT are very similar in terms of skill. At this point in their careers, it's really a wash.

Gutless Drunk
08-30-2014, 09:53 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>The Jets will waive WR Stephen Hill, according to a source <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/nyj?src=hash">#nyj</a></p>&mdash; Brian Costello (@BrianCoz) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrianCoz/statuses/505743990399176704">August 30, 2014</a></blockquote>
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91BRONCO
08-30-2014, 10:01 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>The Jets will waive WR Stephen Hill, according to a source <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/nyj?src=hash">#nyj</a></p>&mdash; Brian Costello (@BrianCoz) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrianCoz/statuses/505743990399176704">August 30, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Wow, didn't see that one coming. I wanted him in the draft a couple years ago too....

DBroncos4life
08-30-2014, 10:07 AM
Wow, didn't see that one coming. I wanted him in the draft a couple years ago too....

They were trying to trade him a couple days ago. He just doesn't have the hands to go with his speed.

oubronco
08-30-2014, 10:12 AM
Patriots to cut recent trade acquisition Jerel Worthy

Posted by Darin Gantt on August 30, 2014, 12:08 PM EDT
http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/300x-1011.jpg?w=500AP

The Patriots didnít need a long look at Jerel Worthy (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7443/jerel-worthy) to decide they didnít need him.

Knee and back problems plagued the former second-round pick, part of the reason the Packers were willing to give up on him.

oubronco
08-30-2014, 10:25 AM
ProFootballTalk ‏<S>@</S>ProFootballTalk <SMALL class=time>12s (https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/505752898152968192) </SMALL>
Colts release LB Kelvin Sheppard, who started seven regular-season games last year http://wp.me/p14QSB-9yx2 (http://t.co/yex6fJtPE1)

SouthStndJunkie
08-30-2014, 10:50 AM
James Harrison, a five-time Pro Bowl linebacker and former NFL Defensive Player of the Year, is retiring from football.

Harrison, who spent 10 years with the Pittsburgh Steelers and played his final NFL season with the Cincinnati Bengals last year, announced his decision Saturday on his Facebook page.

SouthStndJunkie
08-30-2014, 10:51 AM
The Cleveland Browns cut wide receiver Nate Burleson on Saturday, a source confirmed to ESPN.com.

Drunken.Broncoholic2
08-30-2014, 10:59 AM
Broncos Ronnie Hillman, Kayvon Webster hospitalized overnight in Dallas

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_26436135/broncos-ronnie-hillman-kayvon-webster-hospitalized


The Broncos did not disclose the nature of the illness, although the team did confirm Hillman and Webster were taken to a Dallas-area hospital for treatment and evaluation.

Both are expected to rejoin the team this weekend and be on the field for the team's first regular-season practice Monday.


Wtf? What was this about.

DENVERDUI55
08-30-2014, 11:03 AM
Patriots to cut recent trade acquisition Jerel Worthy

Posted by Darin Gantt on August 30, 2014, 12:08 PM EDT
http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/300x-1011.jpg?w=500AP

The Patriots didnít need a long look at Jerel Worthy (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7443/jerel-worthy) to decide they didnít need him.

Knee and back problems plagued the former second-round pick, part of the reason the Packers were willing to give up on him.

If I remember correctly a lot of the OMANE GM's wanted this guy.

gunns
08-30-2014, 11:13 AM
what really sucks for Bills fans is they don't have a 1st rounder next year because they traded it away for a WR in one of the deepest WR drafts in the history of the draft

Yep and one that hasn't waited till the regular season to keep getting injured.

IndelibleScribe
08-30-2014, 11:14 AM
Panthers cut Tavarres King, re-claim him, cut Burse?

Good lord we ****ed up that pick. Damn.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>The Jets will waive WR Stephen Hill, according to a source <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/nyj?src=hash">#nyj</a></p>&mdash; Brian Costello (@BrianCoz) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrianCoz/statuses/505743990399176704">August 30, 2014</a></blockquote>
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He has been a tremendous disappointment. Ton of skill but between the ears he just doesn't have it.
Wouldn't mind us taking a flyer on him and seeing if Manning can make something happen.

Patriots to cut recent trade acquisition Jerel Worthy

Posted by Darin Gantt on August 30, 2014, 12:08 PM EDT
http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/300x-1011.jpg?w=500AP

The Patriots didnít need a long look at Jerel Worthy (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7443/jerel-worthy) to decide they didnít need him.

Knee and back problems plagued the former second-round pick, part of the reason the Packers were willing to give up on him.

Boy I remember the intense debates about him. So glad we avoided that.

IndelibleScribe
08-30-2014, 11:15 AM
If I remember correctly a lot of the OMANE GM's wanted this guy.

Wanted? Wanted? Wanted? There were those who declared Elway to be unworthy as a GM and as a man if he could not see the immense future pro bowl talent of Worthy.

GoneFishin'
08-30-2014, 11:21 AM
Yep and one that hasn't waited till the regular season to keep getting injured.

The Cody Latimer pick just keeps looking better and better.

gunns
08-30-2014, 11:33 AM
The Cody Latimer pick just keeps looking better and better.

I hope so

Dedhed
08-30-2014, 11:58 AM
Wtf? What was this about.
Sounds like food poisoning.

Flacko
08-30-2014, 01:06 PM
Didn't know where to put this but wow, just wow

http://youtu.be/ppjxdVNibj8

Rother8
08-30-2014, 01:25 PM
Saints cutting Champ rumor strong. Bring him back. Could see Wash too

winstoncup bronco
08-30-2014, 01:27 PM
Saints cutting Champ rumor strong. Bring him back. Could see Wash too

Why?

We already cut him once. The guy is done.

Gutless Drunk
08-30-2014, 01:35 PM
Didn't know where to put this but wow, just wow

http://youtu.be/ppjxdVNibj8

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Yep. Still a douche.

mennonite
08-30-2014, 01:38 PM
Christ, did Bill Simmons bathe in Crisco before doing that segment?

Bronco
08-30-2014, 01:46 PM
champ got cut

Gutless Drunk
08-30-2014, 01:47 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Saints release CB Champ Bailey, per league source.</p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/statuses/505803410600259585">August 30, 2014</a></blockquote>
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phibacka31
08-30-2014, 01:47 PM
Christ, did Bill Simmons bathe in Crisco before doing that segment?

You are on fire my friend

Flacko
08-30-2014, 01:49 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Saints release CB Champ Bailey, per league source.</p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/statuses/505803410600259585">August 30, 2014</a></blockquote>
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It sucks seeing one of the best go out like this.

winstoncup bronco
08-30-2014, 01:49 PM
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Yep. Still a douche.

Mind-numbingly stupid. I am a lesser person for having watched some of it.

IndelibleScribe
08-30-2014, 01:50 PM
So sad to see a all-time great go out like that. He deserved a damn ring.

TonyR
08-30-2014, 01:54 PM
He deserved a damn ring.

I like Champ and wished better for him as well. But, at the same time, the guy failed to make some plays in both of Denver's last two AFCCG appearances. An all time great who didn't come up big in some big spots.

baja
08-30-2014, 01:55 PM
Is 17 having a long lunch?

Kid A
08-30-2014, 02:01 PM
I want to see Champ play as long as he can/wants. But, honestly, there's a silver lining as a fan in not having to see him in another uniform. :(

bronco militia
08-30-2014, 02:06 PM
the turk is a bigot. Michael Sam released.

theAPAOps5
08-30-2014, 02:07 PM
The Rams waited until right at the wire to cut him, probably means he was close.

Drunken.Broncoholic2
08-30-2014, 02:07 PM
the turk is a bigot. Michael Sam released.

Chaos protests and demands for firings will begin shortly.

bronco militia
08-30-2014, 02:11 PM
Chaos protests and demands for firings will begin shortly.

http://www.abandonia.com/vbullet/images/smilies/animated/lynch

Smiling Assassin27
08-30-2014, 02:13 PM
Wow, Champ Bailey cut by the Saints

Kaylore
08-30-2014, 02:15 PM
Sorry if it's been posted EDIT I see that it is. Michael Sam is cut. He may get picked up somewhere else.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11431047/michael-sam-cut-st-louis-rams

mennonite
08-30-2014, 02:23 PM
Sorry if it's been posted EDIT I see that it is. Michael Sam is cut. He may get picked up somewhere else.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11431047/michael-sam-cut-st-louis-rams


Men's room or highway rest area?

/I apologize in advance

baja
08-30-2014, 02:26 PM
Men's room or highway rest area?

/I apologize in advance

airport stall, he's going into politics.

Arkie
08-30-2014, 02:26 PM
Saints cut both their kickers.

Kaylore
08-30-2014, 02:27 PM
Men's room or highway rest area?

/I apologize in advance

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Enter The Dragon
08-30-2014, 02:36 PM
Thompson make it?

LikeABoss5820
08-30-2014, 02:40 PM
Thompson make it?

yes

IndelibleScribe
08-30-2014, 02:43 PM
Chaos protests and demands for firings will begin shortly.

Unfortunately you are likely spot on.

Drunken.Broncoholic2
08-30-2014, 02:46 PM
Unfortunately you are likely spot on.

What they won't understand is he's likely going to Rams PS. They don't know how football and roster situations work.

Kaylore
08-30-2014, 04:40 PM
Twitter is being surprisingly ok with Michael Sam getting cut. There are a few girls whining about it, but most everyone is acknowledging it's a business move and not the end of the line for him.

IndelibleScribe
08-30-2014, 08:02 PM
What they won't understand is he's likely going to Rams PS. They don't know how football and roster situations work.

It honestly wouldn't shock me to see him get picked up on waivers.
But more than likely he will go to the PS and then make the team next year.

Traveler
08-31-2014, 09:21 AM
Ray McDonald - DL - 49ers


49ers DE Ray McDonald was arrested on felony domestic violence charges at 5:30am Sunday morning.

Sources tell NBC Bay Area news reporter Damian Trujillo that McDonald's alleged victim was pregnant. He was officially booked for "inflicting injury on a spouse or cohabitant." Furthermore, the San Jose police are reportedly saying that there were other 49ers players present at the time of the incident. Note that Roger Goodell just finished apologizing to owners about how he handled the Ray Rice situation, and promised to enforce a more stringent set of rules for domestic violence that includes a six-game ban for first offenders. McDonald, who also got a DUI in 2010, has started 45 games over the last three seasons for the Niners.

http://www.rotoworld.com/sports/nfl/football?r=1

Aug 31 - 11:11 AM

Automatic six game suspension, right?

LikeABoss5820
08-31-2014, 09:26 AM
Should be, yeah.

Losing him on top of Aldon, Bowman, and Dorsey would hurt.

They have pretty good depth but thats alot of key players.

LikeABoss5820
08-31-2014, 09:31 AM
Welp.

<s>@</s>ProFootballTalk (https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk): Report: 49ers DE Ray McDonald arrested for domestic violence, and the alleged victim is pregnant

delany
08-31-2014, 09:37 AM
Welp.

<s>@</s>ProFootballTalk (https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk): Report: 49ers DE Ray McDonald arrested for domestic violence, and the alleged victim is pregnant

I am giving Ray the 'worst timing of the year' award right now.

mennonite
08-31-2014, 09:43 AM
Unless their is incontrovertible evidence that he is guilty, or he admits to it, I still think the NFL should let it play out in the courts before suspending him.

I just don't like the idea of an accusation being able to destroy someone's career.

Rohirrim
08-31-2014, 09:43 AM
Welp.

<s>@</s>ProFootballTalk (https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk): Report: 49ers DE Ray McDonald arrested for domestic violence, and the alleged victim is pregnant

He'll now get the opportunity to be the test case for Goodell to show how tough he is on domestic violence.

What an idiot. Ha!

Traveler
08-31-2014, 09:45 AM
Unless their is incontrovertible evidence that he is guilty, or he admits to it, I still think the NFL should let it play out in the courts before suspending him.

I just don't like the idea of an accusation being able to destroy someone's career.

They've -the NFL- said no action will be taken until investigation is completed.

Kaylore
08-31-2014, 09:47 AM
A pregnant woman? Get ready, Ray. Goodell is going to show off and you're boned.

baja
08-31-2014, 09:49 AM
A pregnant woman? Get ready, Ray. Goodell is going to show off and you're boned.

Don't suspend him, make him play without a helmet. Knock some sense into him. ;D

mennonite
08-31-2014, 10:04 AM
Give him the "Junior" treatment and then lock him in an elevator with Ray Rice.

http://i.imgur.com/NOUiHSu.jpg

LikeABoss5820
08-31-2014, 10:25 AM
ProFootballTalk ‏<s>@</s>ProFootballTalk (https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk)<small class="time">[/URL] </small> Per league source, Alex Boone's salary increases from $3.7 million over two years to $6 million over two. He'll be free agent in 2016.
(https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/506114679010516992)
Jason Cole ‏<s>@</s>JasonPhilCole (https://twitter.com/JasonPhilCole)<small class="time"> </small>
Key part of revised 2-year deal for [URL="https://twitter.com/hashtag/49ers?src=hash"]<s>#</s>49ers (https://twitter.com/JasonPhilCole/status/506114075219476480) OL Alex Boone is that he can't be franchised or at the end of the deal. Absolute free agent.

Hamrob
08-31-2014, 11:10 AM
Twitter is being surprisingly ok with Michael Sam getting cut. There are a few girls whining about it, but most everyone is acknowledging it's a business move and not the end of the line for him.Sam just isn't very good and doesn't have much upside. Fisher is trying to put this thing behind them and escape the heat. You know he's not very good....when you have 10 PS spots and he's not one of them.

ScottXray
08-31-2014, 11:25 AM
Sam just isn't very good and doesn't have much upside. Fisher is trying to put this thing behind them and escape the heat. You know he's not very good....when you have 10 PS spots and he's not one of them.

Haven't seen any transactions yet...Sam maybe DOES make the PS for St Louis.

Gutless Drunk
08-31-2014, 11:28 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Ryan Mallett has been traded to the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash">#Texans</a>, source says</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/statuses/506131346646130688">August 31, 2014</a></blockquote>
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DENVERDUI55
08-31-2014, 11:35 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Ryan Mallett has been traded to the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash">#Texans</a>, source says</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/statuses/506131346646130688">August 31, 2014</a></blockquote>
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You knew a Mallet trade was coming at some point.

Rohirrim
08-31-2014, 11:36 AM
Pats knew they had the Texans on the hook. They put Mallett on their roster and drew the Texans in, hook, line and sinker.

LikeABoss5820
08-31-2014, 11:38 AM
Houston has the #1 waiver pick, so they would claim him if he was cut.

If NE got more than a 6 or 7, they won.

Mallet is garbo.

bronco militia
08-31-2014, 11:41 AM
I see another dead branch on the belicheat coaching tree.

Bronco
08-31-2014, 11:41 AM
I bet NE could've got a 2nd or 3rd if they traded him last season but after that dog crap performance he had vs the skins this preseason his stock tanked.

O'brian is doing what ex pats do best, crap on their current team with overrated ex patriots.

Gutless Drunk
08-31-2014, 11:41 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Why did the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash">#Texans</a> have to trade for Ryan Mallett instead of claim him? The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cowboys?src=hash">#Cowboys</a> were in talks with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Patriots?src=hash">#Patriots</a>, too.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/statuses/506134678664134656">August 31, 2014</a></blockquote>
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mennonite
08-31-2014, 11:43 AM
I see another dead branch on the belicheat coaching tree.

yep.

winstoncup bronco
08-31-2014, 11:48 AM
So what were the terms of the trade, Clowney and two first rounders?

Gutless Drunk
08-31-2014, 11:49 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>THIS JUST IN: The Patriots have traded QB Ryan Mallett to the Texans for a 6th round pick.

(ESPN/Media Reports) <a href="http://t.co/oOKAKHATwD">pic.twitter.com/oOKAKHATwD</a></p>&mdash; NFL on ESPN (@ESPNNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNNFL/statuses/506136432231337984">August 31, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Bronco
08-31-2014, 11:50 AM
So what were the terms of the trade, Clowney and two first rounders?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>THIS JUST IN: The Patriots have traded QB Ryan Mallett to the Texans for JJ Watt and a 1st round pick. (ESPN/Media Reports) <a href="http://t.co/oOKAKHATwD">pic.twitter.com/oOKAKHATwD</a></p>&mdash; NFL on ESPN (@ESPNNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNNFL/statuses/506136432231337984">August 31, 2014</a></blockquote>
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LikeABoss5820
08-31-2014, 11:51 AM
6th rounder.

winstoncup bronco
08-31-2014, 11:54 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>THIS JUST IN: The Patriots have traded QB Ryan Mallett to the Texans for JJ Watt and a 1st round pick.

(ESPN/Media Reports) <a href="http://t.co/oOKAKHATwD">pic.twitter.com/oOKAKHATwD</a></p>&mdash; NFL on ESPN (@ESPNNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNNFL/statuses/506136432231337984">August 31, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Hmmm, that's all? Sounds like O'Brien is a bad disciple. Guess who's not getting a job in NE after he's fired.

oubronco
08-31-2014, 11:54 AM
Albert Breer ‏<S>@</S>AlbertBreer <SMALL class=time>2m (https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/506137233301467136) </SMALL>
Sixth-round pick (as <S>@</S>taniaganguli (https://twitter.com/taniaganguli) said) going back to New England not a bad price for Mallett. Texans could recoup it, in a '16 comp pick.

Tombstone RJ
08-31-2014, 11:55 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Ryan Mallett has been traded to the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash">#Texans</a>, source says</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/statuses/506131346646130688">August 31, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Welp, another hoody minion trade, wonder how much BB got this time?

winstoncup bronco
08-31-2014, 12:00 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Why did the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash">#Texans</a> have to trade for Ryan Mallett instead of claim him? The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cowboys?src=hash">#Cowboys</a> were in talks with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Patriots?src=hash">#Patriots</a>, too.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/statuses/506134678664134656">August 31, 2014</a></blockquote>
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I call BS on this.

If HOU was forced to up the ante to a 6th round pick, I'm assuming Dallas was offering a 7th? Even so, HOU is more than likely going to have a better draft position than DAL, so their 7th would trump DAL's, so no need to sweeten the deal.

I'm so sick of Belichick's druids helping him clear his roster of trash.

Gutless Drunk
08-31-2014, 12:01 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Chargers show interest in former Broncos NT Kevin Vickerson, sources say: <a href="http://t.co/JEjs1UDKFE">http://t.co/JEjs1UDKFE</a></p>&mdash; Michael Gehlken (@UTgehlken) <a href="https://twitter.com/UTgehlken/statuses/506139381376090112">August 31, 2014</a></blockquote>
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LikeABoss5820
08-31-2014, 12:02 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Chargers show interest in former Broncos NT Kevin Vickerson, sources say: <a href="http://t.co/JEjs1UDKFE">http://t.co/JEjs1UDKFE</a></p>&mdash; Michael Gehlken (@UTgehlken) <a href="https://twitter.com/UTgehlken/statuses/506139381376090112">August 31, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Why i would have kept him.

winstoncup bronco
08-31-2014, 12:03 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Chargers show interest in former Broncos NT Kevin Vickerson, sources say: <a href="http://t.co/JEjs1UDKFE">http://t.co/JEjs1UDKFE</a></p>&mdash; Michael Gehlken (@UTgehlken) <a href="https://twitter.com/UTgehlken/statuses/506139381376090112">August 31, 2014</a></blockquote>
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In before Charger fan says this would the mother of all pick-ups.

mennonite
08-31-2014, 12:06 PM
Eh, Belichick will get a lot of accolades for the trade, but he drafted Mallet in the third round. Mallet contributed nothing to the team for three years, and was shipped out for a sixth round pick.

oubronco
08-31-2014, 12:13 PM
ProFootballTalk ‏<S>@</S>ProFootballTalk <SMALL class=time>1m (https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/506142299580276737) </SMALL>
Looks like the Texans fell for the banana in the tailpipe on Mallett.

LikeABoss5820
08-31-2014, 12:14 PM
The Belechik ball washers act like he's god.

Trades Mankins for a 4th and a TE in a SB/bust year.

Trades Mallet for a 6th.

Let's not act like he fetched a 1st here.

Gutless Drunk
08-31-2014, 12:16 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>From what I'm hearing sounds like pick Pats receive from Texans for Mallett maxes out at a 6 based on performance. Could be less</p>&mdash; Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/statuses/506143299510751233">August 31, 2014</a></blockquote>
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oubronco
08-31-2014, 12:16 PM
Jason La Canfora ‏<S>@</S>JasonLaCanfora <SMALL class=time>15s (https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/506143299510751233) </SMALL>
From what I'm hearing sounds like pick Pats receive from Texans for Mallett maxes out at a 6 based on performance. Could be less

go_broncos
08-31-2014, 12:27 PM
O'Brien will ruin texans just like how Mcd ruined our team.

mennonite
08-31-2014, 12:29 PM
It's pretty hard to ruin a 2-14 team.

LikeABoss5820
08-31-2014, 12:35 PM
Yeah, trading a 7th round pick in 2016 will ruin them, ok negative nancy.

mennonite
08-31-2014, 12:35 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Terms: The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash">#Texans</a> traded a 2016 conditional 7th round pick for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Patriots?src=hash">#Patriots</a> QB Ryan Mallett, source said.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/statuses/506145453160038400">August 31, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Only BB could be called a genius for turning a third round pick into a seventh rounder.

pricejj
08-31-2014, 12:38 PM
I bet NE could've got a 2nd or 3rd if they traded him last season but after that dog crap performance he had vs the skins this preseason his stock tanked.


No way. They've been trying to get a high draft pick for him every year. O'Brien is the only one who'd bail him out now.

baja
08-31-2014, 12:41 PM
O'Brien will ruin texans just like how Mcd ruined our team.

McD was the best thing that has ever happened to the Broncos, he brought us Elway.

mennonite
08-31-2014, 12:43 PM
I initally criticized O'Brien for this trade, but I think I've changed my mind. The Amish Rifle is his starter, and the backups he had weren't exactly worldbeaters. Mallet knows his system and he gave up practically nothing to get him. If he decided Keenan wasn't ready to be the #2 QB, who else could he bring in that knows his system at this point?

LikeABoss5820
08-31-2014, 12:44 PM
No way. They've been trying to get a high draft pick for him every year. O'Brien is the only one who'd bail him out now.

A 7th round pick is bailing him out?

ROFL!

SonOfLe-loLang
08-31-2014, 12:45 PM
A 7th round pick is bailing him out?

ROFL!

A conditional one in 2016 no less

Bronco
08-31-2014, 12:46 PM
I initally criticized O'Brien for this trade, but I think I've changed my mind. The Amish Rifle is his starter, and the backups he had weren't exactly worldbeaters. Mallet knows his system and he gave up practically nothing to get him. If he decided Keenan wasn't ready to be the #2 QB, who else could he bring in that knows his system at this point?

Future hall of famer Tom Savage.

Tombstone RJ
08-31-2014, 12:48 PM
A 7th round pick is bailing him out?

ROFL!

Mallet would have been released by pats so yah...

mennonite
08-31-2014, 12:50 PM
Mallet would have been released by pats so yah...

I thought someone tweeted that the Cowboys were showing some interest. The Texans had first pick in the waivers, but if the Cowboys were offering a seventh and they wanted him they had to make a move.


Edit: "The Texans had first pick in the waivers" doesn't sound right. I'm not sure how to use "waivers" in a sentence.

Kaylore
08-31-2014, 12:51 PM
Yeah using a third round pick to draft a player, develop him while he does literally nothing for your team, and then flipping for a conditional seventh isn't "genius" to me.

bowtown
08-31-2014, 12:55 PM
TOTAL FLEECING BY OUR DARK OVERLORD.

baja
08-31-2014, 12:57 PM
A conditional one in 2016 no less

Makes you wonder what the cowboys offered, a ham sandwich?

pricejj
08-31-2014, 12:58 PM
A 7th round pick is bailing him out?

ROFL!

It's a 6th. Yeah, Bellicheat shouldn't have gotten anything. Good thing he can't draft to save his life.

Gutless Drunk
08-31-2014, 12:59 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Depending on which way the conditional pick goes, where a potential future comp pick lands, the Texans may be getting Mallett for nothing.</p>&mdash; Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/statuses/506149402571190272">August 31, 2014</a></blockquote>
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bowtown
08-31-2014, 12:59 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Depending on which way the conditional pick goes, where a potential future comp pick lands, the Texans may be getting Mallett for nothing.</p>&mdash; Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/statuses/506149402571190272">August 31, 2014</a></blockquote>
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BB IS A GENIUS

Tombstone RJ
08-31-2014, 01:00 PM
Yeah using a third round pick to draft a player, develop him while he does literally nothing for your team, and then flipping for a conditional seventh isn't "genius" to me.

Calculated risk and well worth it IMHO and now they have Garoppollo...

baja
08-31-2014, 01:00 PM
I thought someone tweeted that the Cowboys were showing some interest. The Texans had first pick in the waivers, but if the Cowboys were offering a seventh and they wanted him they had to make a move.


Edit: "The Texans had first pick in the waivers" doesn't sound right. I'm not sure how to use "waivers" in a sentence.

See the hand waivers

http://activerain.trulia.com/image_store/uploads/5/6/2/6/6/ar124813813366265.jpg

mennonite
08-31-2014, 01:03 PM
The way these reports keep changing, I fully expect a report from Shefter in a couple of hours saying Belichick had to give O'Brien a third round pick and a conditional handy to take Mallet.

FYI: A "Conditional handy" means that during the "deed" O'Brien only gets to put a hand on one of BB's moobs if Mallet starts more than 6 games.

mennonite
08-31-2014, 01:08 PM
Calculated risk and well worth it IMHO and now they have Garoppollo...


The Patriots spent a second and third round pick in Brady's final years and have a conditional 7th round pick and a backup QB who just went 22-of-42 for 284 yards with a touchdown pass and an INT against the Giants to show for it.

Kaylore
08-31-2014, 01:14 PM
Calculated risk and well worth it IMHO and now they have Garoppollo...

If you're talking about the Patriots, you just made a case for why it was a waste of resources.

LikeABoss5820
08-31-2014, 01:22 PM
Mallet would have been released by pats so yah...

So NE drafts a QB, in the 3rd, and trades him for a 7th, possibly even gets nothing and BB is a genius.

Go be a Pats fan then.

LikeABoss5820
08-31-2014, 01:24 PM
Calculated risk and well worth it IMHO and now they have Garoppollo...

So if we traded Brock for a 7th, would you say it was a good trade?

Shananahan
08-31-2014, 01:24 PM
I don't think it was a horrible move for them to draft Mallett, or a horrible decision to keep him around all these years without moving him for something. He was a speculative gamble that at best would result in a starting QB or a high pick and at worst result in insurance for Brady. Not that different from what Denver's done with Oz, really.

I'm glad they got nothing for him, but I can't really fault them too much for trying.

Shananahan
08-31-2014, 01:25 PM
Also, Belichick is a genius. That the Mallett thing didn't pan out doesn't change that.

LikeABoss5820
08-31-2014, 01:26 PM
It's a 6th. Yeah, Bellicheat shouldn't have gotten anything. Good thing he can't draft to save his life.

It's a 7th, possibly even nothing.

They have had some good drafts lately but have sure as hell whiffed on picks too, mainly at WR.

Kaylore
08-31-2014, 01:38 PM
I don't think it was a horrible move for them to draft Mallett, or a horrible decision to keep him around all these years without moving him for something. He was a speculative gamble that at best would result in a starting QB or a high pick and at worst result in insurance for Brady. Not that different from what Denver's done with Oz, really.

I'm glad they got nothing for him, but I can't really fault them too much for trying.

I don't think anyone thinks them drafting Mallet was dumb. They just are tired of the trade being praised as some kind of coup. The media tends to treat every Bellichick move move like it's genius. If he blows his nose, ESPN is running a story about how tissue savvy he is, and Herm Edwards is predicting the Kleenex for the hall of fame on NFL live.

pricejj
08-31-2014, 01:41 PM
It's a 7th, possibly even nothing.

They have had some good drafts lately but have sure as hell whiffed on picks too, mainly at WR.

"The Patriots received a conditional 2016 seventh-round pick"


Holy crap that is funny!

mennonite
08-31-2014, 01:44 PM
Herm Edwards is predicting the Kleenex for the hall of fame on NFL live.


"Two-ply, you in the 'Fame."

elsid13
08-31-2014, 01:47 PM
NE gets credit for being a great franchise because of Brady. When he retires I have strange feeling that NE is in for rough time like Denver post Elway

NorCalBronco7
08-31-2014, 01:47 PM
I don't think it was a horrible move for them to draft Mallett.....

Yeah I agree. People don't appreciate insurance policies in the NFL unless injury to the starter occurs.....and at that point the decision is called genius.

mennonite
08-31-2014, 01:53 PM
Yeah I agree. People don't appreciate insurance policies in the NFL unless injury to the starter occurs.....and at that point the decision is called genius.

The point is that BB's every move is a "genius" move, even when he whiffs. Signing Albert Haynsworth and Chad Johnson? Genius. Cutting Albert Haynsworth and Chad Johnson? Genius. Spending a third round pick on a backup QB? Genius. Trading the same QB for a 7th round pick? Genius.

LikeABoss5820
08-31-2014, 02:00 PM
The point is that BB's every move is a "genius" move, even when he whiffs. Signing Albert Haynsworth and Chad Johnson? Genius. Cutting Albert Haynsworth and Chad Johnson? Genius. Spending a third round pick on a backup QB? Genius. Trading the same QB for a 7th round pick? Genius.

This, this, this.

BB is a great coach/GM but the media, other fans act like he's Ghandi.

People praise every move he makes.

Kaylore
08-31-2014, 02:00 PM
"Two-ply, you in the 'Fame."
Tonight on Playbook: Brian Baldinger shows how a good nose blow can make the difference. Then Brian Billick pulls out the game tape and shows what makes Kleenex so good.

mennonite
08-31-2014, 02:04 PM
Tonight on Playbook: B̶r̶i̶a̶n̶ ̶B̶a̶l̶d̶i̶n̶g̶e̶r̶ Michael Irvin shows how a good nose blow can make the difference.


Must see tv.

ScottXray
08-31-2014, 02:09 PM
"The Patriots received a conditional 2016 seventh-round pick"


Holy crap that is funny!

Very!
Basically Belli DID get a pick for keeping him on the Active roster for a day.
But he Likely would have gotten a provisional 6th in 2016 for keeping him around. It does clear cap space, so NE is doing that for some reason.

But I think Houston is getting him just to give their kid draft pick time to develope more this year in case their starter goes down, and then they'll release him next year. And get the pick back likely.

baja
08-31-2014, 02:12 PM
Tonight on Playbook: Brian Baldinger shows how a good nose blow can make the difference. Then Brian Billick pulls out the game tape and shows what makes Kleenex so good.

He probably video taped the factories before he chose his brand of tissue.

pricejj
08-31-2014, 02:23 PM
What makes it so funny is every year we have to deal with massholes in the media trying to create buzz around a "potential 1st round pick" trade for Mallett.


They got their trade all right. A conditional 2016 7th rounder. Ha ha Hilarious!

boltaneer
08-31-2014, 03:09 PM
In before Charger fan says this would the mother of all pick-ups.

Well, at this point they need any help they can get on that DL and he's clearly the best option out there right now.

IndelibleScribe
08-31-2014, 03:51 PM
I am curious to see how this works out for the Texans. Mallett has starting potential but his issue at Michigan and Arkansas was immaturity and between the ears.
Hard to be a good NFL starter with those two issues.
Maybe he has learned enough from Brady to ensure he has the complete package to be a professional.

mennonite
08-31-2014, 08:45 PM
Titans expected to sign kicker Ryan Succop

http://www.tennessean.com/story/titansinsider/2014/08/31/ryan-succop-tennessee-titans/14916037/

The Titans (http://www.tennessean.com/sports/titans/) have a strong interest in former Chiefs kicker Ryan Succop and indications are they could sign him as early as Monday, according to sources familiar with the situation.

Rohirrim
08-31-2014, 08:55 PM
Frankly, I think Tom Savage will end up being better than Fitzpatrick or Mallett, making the Mallett trade a waste.

bowtown
08-31-2014, 09:18 PM
Frankly, I think Tom Savage will end up being better than Fitzpatrick or Mallett, making the Mallett trade a waste.

Well if Mallett doesn't play they owe nothing, so not really a waste.

Drunken.Broncoholic2
08-31-2014, 09:25 PM
What makes it so funny is every year we have to deal with ma-holes in the media trying to create buzz around a "potential 1st round pick" trade for Mallett.


They got their trade all right. A conditional 2016 7th rounder. Ha ha Hilarious!


They trade him a while back and it's a higher pick. BB blew that one.

NorCalBronco7
08-31-2014, 09:32 PM
The point is that BB's every move is a "genius" move, even when he whiffs. Signing Albert Haynsworth and Chad Johnson? Genius. Cutting Albert Haynsworth and Chad Johnson? Genius. Spending a third round pick on a backup QB? Genius. Trading the same QB for a 7th round pick? Genius.

You missed my point, probaly because when it comes to the Hoodie, youre a hater! You probably sippin on that haterade errreday.

I was just making a general point about how landing a backup QB is viewed by fans. I could care less about how people view BB, and whether he's a genius or not.

pricejj
08-31-2014, 10:32 PM
They trade him a while back and it's a higher pick. BB blew that one.

He's starting to act like Shanahan did right before the end. Completely losing it.

http://www.adamriff.com/images/25pseoh.gif

Arkie
09-01-2014, 06:48 AM
BB knew he was trading Mallett. That's why he sat him out the last preseason game because he didn't want to screw anything up with an injury. He didn't trade him away last year because he didn't have an insurance policy for Brady. He took care of that in the draft before Mallett's contract expired this year. Patriots got what they wanted in a worst-case scenario and the Texans got a great deal with no risk.

Vegas_Bronco
09-01-2014, 06:56 AM
Duke notOurNacho gets signed by the Redskins...I wish him well. I hope Q Carter can stay healthy. I. Other news someone named their kid Sammy Seamster and he plays cornerback...wait till he switches to safety and covers the seam. Safety Sammy seamster.


Published: Aug. 31, 2014 at 02:56 p.m. Updated: Aug. 31, 2014 at 06:24 p.m.
Duke Ihenacho claimed by Washington Redskins


Kevin Patra
Around the NFL writer

With Brandon Meriweather set to miss the first two games of the season due to suspension, the Washington Redskins needed safety help.

On Sunday the team claimed Duke Ihenacho off waivers from the Denver Broncos.

Roster cuts tracker
NFL teams trimmed their rosters to 53 players on Saturday.

The Broncos released the safety Saturday. After Denver added T.J. Ward in the offseason and got Rahim Moore and Quinton Carter back from injury, Ihenacho -- who started 17 games last year for the Broncos, including the Super Bowl -- was squeezed off the roster.

A good in-the-box strong safety, Ihenacho should fill in for Meriweather during the suspension and could play a big role lining up next to Ryan Clark in a porous Redskins back end.

Some other notable waiver claims (not an exhaustive list):

2. Guard A.Q. Shipley returns to Indianapolis. After being traded to the Ravens last offseason, the offensive lineman was claimed by the Colts. The combo guard/center who started nine games in 2013 could be good insurance for a weak interior line that is already dinged up.

3. Desperate for help at the corner position, the New York Jets claimed Leon McFadden off waivers from the Cleveland Browns. It's interesting that Rex Ryan would lay claim to a player his former defensive coordinator, Mike Pettine, gave

4. The Browns claimed offensive tackle Ryan Seymour, who played for the 49ers and Seahawks, NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported. Cleveland also claimed running back Glenn Winston from the 49ers.

5. Niners' cuts were popular on the waiver wire as the Texans claimed corner Darryl Morris, per Rapoport. Houston also claimed offensive tackle Jeff Adams.

6. The Texans used their high waiver priority to snag former Eagles receiver Damaris Johnson. After making the claim Houston cut wide out Mike Thomas, per Rapoport.

7. The Titans claimed receiver T.J. Graham after the Bills cut him. The speedy deep threat will compete at the back end of the Titans receiving corps for playing time.

8. One player Graham will compete with is Kris Durham, who the Titans also claimed off waivers Sunday. The Detroit Lions cut the 6-foot-6 receiver on Saturday.

9. The Patriots claimed defensive tackle Kelcy Quarles, per Rapoport.

10. General manager Dennis Hickey announced that the Miami Dolphins claimed safety Brandian Ross from the Raiders and cornerback Sammy Seamster from the Ravens. Ross started 13 games for the Raiders in 2013. The Dolphins released safety Don Jones and receiver Damian Williams.

11. The Oakland Raiders claimed defensive end Benson Mayowa from the Seahawks. An undrafted free agent in 2013, Mayowa played in two games for the Seahawks. With Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie coming from the same organization Seahawks GM John Schneider got his start in (Green Bay), it's not surprising both see value in the 6-foot-3, 252-pound Mayowa.

12. The Arizona Cardinals claimed linebacker Thomas Keiser from the Chargers. The pass rusher had nine sacks in 24 NFL games, including 4.5 last year in San Diego. Arizona is in need of rotational rushers given their depleted corps.

mennonite
09-01-2014, 08:16 AM
Other news someone named their kid Sammy Seamster and he plays cornerback...wait till he switches to safety and covers the seam. Safety Sammy Seamster.

Moving from CB to safety can be tough. I can see him having a rough time making the switch in Miami.


Safety Sammy Seamster Struggles by Sea Shore

Kaylore
09-01-2014, 08:46 AM
Some of you need to be put down.

Kaylore
09-01-2014, 08:57 AM
I gotta say it's pretty lame Michael Sam still isn't signed to a practice squad. The unfortunate thing is it has more to do with the media than him being gay.

Br0nc0Buster
09-01-2014, 08:58 AM
Denver should sign him to the PS
He looked pretty good in preseason

uplink
09-01-2014, 09:08 AM
Denver should sign him to the PS
He looked pretty good in preseason Yeah you can never have too many guys who can rush the passer, I think he showed he can do that in the PS.

stoxman
09-01-2014, 09:23 AM
Yeah you can never have too many guys who can rush the passer, I think he showed he can do that in the PS.

Gotta think Sam is better than Zach Thompson who we just picked up.

Really need a DB on that practice squad (Louis Young).

uplink
09-01-2014, 09:28 AM
maybe Sam should make it clear he is not going to do that reality show and then someone might sign him. He is good enough for someones practice squad.

uplink
09-01-2014, 09:31 AM
Really need a DB on that practice squad (Louis Young).
Yeah strange as many thought he might land a spot on the 53

ScottXray
09-01-2014, 10:44 AM
Yeah strange as many thought he might land a spot on the 53

Yeah..but I guess the coaches didn't think as highly of him as some here did.

SouthStndJunkie
09-01-2014, 11:06 AM
I gotta say it's pretty lame Michael Sam still isn't signed to a practice squad. The unfortunate thing is it has more to do with the media than him being gay.

I agree....the media crush that will swarm upon any team that signs Michael Sam is a bigger deterrent to a team than Sam actually being gay.

ESPN has beat the story into the ground, picked it up and beat into the ground again, and then did it yet again.

They want to make the story their own reality TV show and cover things like this to death to the point where everyone is sick of it....same deal with Tim Tebow.

Hamrob
09-01-2014, 11:17 AM
They trade him a while back and it's a higher pick. BB blew that one.I agree....a year ago, they probably could have gotten at least a 2.

mennonite
09-01-2014, 11:20 AM
I think if Sam held a press conference, and said "I know you have a job to do, but please do not turn my career into a sideshow before it's even started just for the sake of ratings." I think it would shame a lot of the media into toning it down. Would it stop TMZ? No. But I think it would quell a lot of the over the top coverage on ESPN and similar outlets. Not becasue of the goodness of their hearts, but because it would be too easy for their competitors to crucify them for exploiting a minority.

He really shouldn't have agreed to that Oprah thing.

baja
09-01-2014, 11:21 AM
I agree....the media crush that will swarm upon any team that signs Michael Sam is a bigger deterrent to a team than Sam actually being gay.

ESPN has beat the story into the ground, picked it up and beat into the ground again, and then did it yet again.

They want to make the story their own reality TV show and cover things like this to death to the point where everyone is sick of it....same deal with Tim Tebow.

Also ESPN is controlled by Disney the gay company.

Shananahan
09-01-2014, 11:43 AM
I think if Sam held a press conference, and said "I know you have a job to do, but please do not turn my career into a sideshow before it's even started just for the sake of ratings." I think it would shame a lot of the media into toning it down. Would it stop TMZ? No. But I think it would quell a lot of the over the top coverage on ESPN and similar outlets. Not becasue of the goodness of their hearts, but because it would be too easy for their competitors to crucify them for exploiting a minority
Agreed, but you'd have to expect some blowback of equal proportion that would be just as distracting. The media is uncontrollable and destructive and evil and all-consuming.

Dude might as well just make a sex tape with a woman and say it was all a hoax for some kind of documentary, or go to Canada for a year and come back proud and straight with all the gayness frozen out of him. I think he's doomed, honestly.

SonOfLe-loLang
09-01-2014, 12:06 PM
What was so distracting about Michael Sam? He had two press conferences and you didn't hear a peep from rams camp. Manziel sucks and he gets tons more media attention

whoeey
09-01-2014, 12:12 PM
What was so distracting about Michael Sam? He had two press conferences and you didn't hear a peep from rams camp. Manziel sucks and he gets tons more media attention

What's so special about Sam?

Drunken.Broncoholic2
09-01-2014, 12:13 PM
What was so distracting about Michael Sam? He had two press conferences and you didn't hear a peep from rams camp. Manziel sucks and he gets tons more media attention

ESPN doing a report on the team and his showering habits is a little distracting. Sam might not be, but the media and groups reacting to him sure are.

mennonite
09-01-2014, 12:23 PM
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LikeABoss5820
09-01-2014, 12:29 PM
Dont see nothing.

baja
09-01-2014, 12:30 PM
Dont see nothing.

That means you see everything.

theAPAOps5
09-01-2014, 12:39 PM
ESPN doing a report on the team and his showering habits is a little distracting. Sam might not be, but the media and groups reacting to him sure are.

That's not Sam's fault

uplink
09-01-2014, 12:39 PM
49ers should put Sam on their PS, they probably have the biggest gay fan base and football is really for the fans after all. The guy should be on a team

whoeey
09-01-2014, 12:45 PM
49ers should put Sam on their PS, they probably have the biggest gay fan base and football is really for the fans after all. The guy should be on a team

Canada maybe.

mennonite
09-01-2014, 12:46 PM
Reductio ad absurdum: Let's say Tebow changes positions and becomes a TE. And lets say he's actually pretty decent at it. Decent, but not amazing. Would you want him on your team? How talented would he have to be for it to be worth the constant media b.s.?

BroncosfanGuy
09-01-2014, 12:47 PM
Reductio ad absurdum: Let's say Tebow changes positions and becomes a TE. And lets say he's actually pretty decent at it. Decent, but not amazing. Would you want him on your team? How talented would he have to be for it to be worth the constant media b.s.?

all he does is win, dude (~50% of the time)

whoeey
09-01-2014, 12:48 PM
Sure if he was the best option. I wouldn't discriminate against someone more deserving just to provide him a job though.

SonOfLe-loLang
09-01-2014, 01:03 PM
What's so special about Sam?

Nothing. If he's not a talent that's good enough for an NFL roster, then fine. But if you think the media will swarm him because he's on a practice squad they won't. The legs on this story are very short. You can't keep asking the same question over and over

SonOfLe-loLang
09-01-2014, 01:05 PM
ESPN doing a report on the team and his showering habits is a little distracting. Sam might not be, but the media and groups reacting to him sure are.

Any more distracting than ray rice or anyone who gets arrested? It's a ****ty excuse. If a team doesn't want his talent, fine. If a team doesn't want the distraction, that's BS. I think most rational people support Sam. He's not some divisive character like Johnny or tebow

Drunken.Broncoholic2
09-01-2014, 01:11 PM
Any more distracting than ray rice or anyone who gets arrested? It's a ****ty excuse. If a team doesn't want his talent, fine. If a team doesn't want the distraction, that's BS. I think most rational people support Sam. He's not some divisive character like Johnny or tebow

Who said those examples are not distracting?

But the homophobic assumptions of the rams by idiots don't help. All I've heard by the left is how anti gay the rams are. Which is beyond ridiculous. They draft a gay player so they can cut a gay player cause they hate gay people.

mennonite
09-01-2014, 01:13 PM
Nothing. The legs on this story are very short. You can't keep asking the same question over and over

I'm sure Josina has plenty of follow up stories on Sam's showering habits. Such as his bathing habits. His cleansing habits. His washing habits. His hygienic habits. The possibilities are almost endless. Six months down the line she'll cap it all off by taking a wistful look back on her groundbreaking original "shower" story in a retrospective entitled "Soap Under Scope: Michael Sam Comes Clean" or "Dopes say Nope to Dropped Soap" or something.

theAPAOps5
09-01-2014, 01:26 PM
Reductio ad absurdum: Let's say Tebow changes positions and becomes a TE. And lets say he's actually pretty decent at it. Decent, but not amazing. Would you want him on your team? How talented would he have to be for it to be worth the constant media b.s.?

If you think that Tebow wasn't a direct cause of the media circus you are crazy. He may be an honest and pure person.... But his handlers were not. They did the dirty work. The baggage that comes with Tebow is driven by Tebow the corporation

mennonite
09-01-2014, 01:34 PM
PFT right now:

Sam was in familiar surroundings in St. Louis, but he also landed with one of the deepest and most talented lines in the league. Other teams lack their depth, and Sam played well enough in the preseason that a football-simple answer seems unlikely.
That only leaves our worst suspicions, which appear more true by the minute.



Got that? Since no team in the NFL has signed him, every team must be run by homophobes. PFT can't prove that, but that won't stop them from insinuating it.


So the question remains: how talented does a player have to be , to be worth people screaming "HOMOPHOBE!" when he doesn't start?

whoeey
09-01-2014, 01:39 PM
Profootballtalk is a joke.

I noticed we picked up a DE to fill our practice squad.

SonOfLe-loLang
09-01-2014, 01:40 PM
Who said those examples are not distracting?

But the homophobic assumptions of the rams by idiots don't help. All I've heard by the left is how anti gay the rams are. Which is beyond ridiculous. They draft a gay player so they can cut a gay player cause they hate gay people.

I haven't heard much backlash at all other than some chirping on twitter. I'm as left as you get and I'm not calling them homophobic. I'm saying it wouldn't be much of a distraction. Didn't seem like a distraction for the rams

Drunken.Broncoholic2
09-01-2014, 01:45 PM
I haven't heard much backlash at all other than some chirping on twitter. I'm as left as you get and I'm not calling them homophobic. I'm saying it wouldn't be much of a distraction. Didn't seem like a distraction for the rams

Mother jones comments pretty much sum it up. "Sam, who is better at football than you will ever be at anything, has been cut".

Tombstone RJ
09-01-2014, 01:57 PM
the writing is on the wall... poor, poor Sam will just have to go and play football where he will be accepted. That's right, Canada.

Shananahan
09-01-2014, 01:57 PM
WE CAN'T STOP TALKING ABOUT HOW NOBODY WILL SIGN MICHAEL SAM BECAUSE WE CAN'T STOP TALKING ABOUT IT

oubronco
09-01-2014, 02:47 PM
Who gives a **** about Sam

baja
09-01-2014, 03:14 PM
PFT right now:

Sam was in familiar surroundings in St. Louis, but he also landed with one of the deepest and most talented lines in the league. Other teams lack their depth, and Sam played well enough in the preseason that a football-simple answer seems unlikely.
That only leaves our worst suspicions, which appear more true by the minute.



Got that? Since no team in the NFL has signed him, every team must be run by homophones. PFT can't prove that, but that won't stop them from insinuating it.


So the question remains: how talented does a player have to be , to be worth people screaming "HOMOPHOBE!" when he doesn't start?


What's a homo phone?

55CrushEm
09-01-2014, 03:19 PM
What's a homo phone?

34695

mennonite
09-01-2014, 03:37 PM
What's a homo phone?

You know, words that sound alike but are spelled in ways that would make you uncomfortable in the shower with them.


And on that note - here's something really Gaye:

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/87FjkqtK67o" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

SonOfLe-loLang
09-01-2014, 03:41 PM
Mother jones comments pretty much sum it up. "Sam, who is better at football than you will ever be at anything, has been cut".

Finding a quote off a left leaning blog isn't a media circus. You're always gonna find an opinion. I'm just saying it wouldn't be a huge circus. There's just not much of a story when you're talking about a DE on the practice squad. A small one, sure, but not some huge thing

Drunken.Broncoholic2
09-01-2014, 03:47 PM
Finding a quote off a left leaning blog isn't a media circus. You're always gonna find an opinion. I'm just saying it wouldn't be a huge circus. There's just not much of a story when you're talking about a DE on the practice squad. A small one, sure, but not some huge thing

I just pointed to one that represented the tones of the others I've seen/heard. I actually thought another team who needed a undersized DE hybrid would pick him up.

mennonite
09-01-2014, 03:47 PM
Mother jones comments pretty much sum it up. "Sam, who is better at football than you will ever be at anything, has been cut".


You know who else is better than football than me? The other 53 guys the Rams signed.

SonOfLe-loLang
09-01-2014, 03:48 PM
I just pointed to one that represented the tones of the others I've seen/heard. I actually thought another team who needed a undersized DE hybrid would pick him up.

I'd be surprised if this is the last we've heard from him. He has some pass rushing talent. If he wants to keep playing football, maybe he'll be in a camp next season

Tombstone RJ
09-01-2014, 03:58 PM
You know who else is better than football than me? The other 53 guys the Rams signed.

...and the other 46 guys the Rams cut...

Shananahan
09-01-2014, 03:59 PM
It's a stupid quote. It should have read, "Sam, who is better at football than you will ever be at anything, has been cut in favor of some players who are even better at football than he is."

broncocalijohn
09-01-2014, 04:08 PM
I am just wondering about all those SAM jerseys that were bought in haste. NFL and Rams seems to have made some nice cashe on him. If you want one, I am sure the Rams store has them for $10 each.

IndelibleScribe
09-01-2014, 04:08 PM
I just pointed to one that represented the tones of the others I've seen/heard. I actually thought another team who needed a undersized DE hybrid would pick him up.

He's not a hybrid though. He's a pure DE. That was part of the issue with him being a draft prospect. He is a DE, doesn't play special teams, isn't great against the run and isn't a huge athlete.

broncogary
09-01-2014, 04:13 PM
...and the other 46 guys the Rams cut...

36.

missingnumber7
09-01-2014, 04:18 PM
I am just wondering about all those SAM jerseys that were bought in haste. NFL and Rams seems to have made some nice cashe on him. If you want one, I am sure the Rams store has them for $10 each.

No worse than the Clarrett Jerseys people bought.

Gutless Drunk
09-01-2014, 04:20 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Breaking: Raiders players have been informed that the team is making the switch at QB and starting Derek Carr over Matt Schaub</p>&mdash; Jay Glazer (@JayGlazer) <a href="https://twitter.com/JayGlazer/statuses/506563994652803076">September 1, 2014</a></blockquote>
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ManningTebow
09-01-2014, 04:23 PM
If the Browns were smart they would bring in Tebow to compete for the backup job with Manziel as well as Michael Sam to the practice squad and have Brett Favre be one of the coaches, ESPN would move to Cleveland if that happened. Can you imagine LeBron, Tebow, Michael Sam, Manziel and Favre all in one city? ESPN would go nuts.

mennonite
09-01-2014, 04:25 PM
8 million dollars flushed away on Matt Schaub. That's gotta hurt. Not as bad as giving Alex Smith an extension, but still pretty painful.

Arkie
09-01-2014, 04:25 PM
What's so special about Sam?

11 tackles and 3 sacks during the preseason

baja
09-01-2014, 04:26 PM
8 million dollars flushed away on Matt Schaub. That's gotta hurt. Not as bad as giving Alex Smith an extension, but still pretty painful.

I look at it more as a home run on Carr.

ManningTebow
09-01-2014, 04:27 PM
11 tackles and 3 sacks during the preseason

Against Right Tackles that got cut along with him...

Br0nc0Buster
09-01-2014, 04:29 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Breaking: Raiders players have been informed that the team is making the switch at QB and starting Derek Carr over Matt Schaub</p>&mdash; Jay Glazer (@JayGlazer) <a href="https://twitter.com/JayGlazer/statuses/506563994652803076">September 1, 2014</a></blockquote>
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First smart thing that regime has done

SonOfLe-loLang
09-01-2014, 04:29 PM
Against Right Tackles that got cut along with him...

Can you imagine people here if anunike put up 11 tackles and three sacks?

Half the board would be calling him the next Simon fletcher and pricejj would be reviewing Demarcus Wares cap number

Arkie
09-01-2014, 04:29 PM
8 million dollars flushed away on Matt Schaub. That's gotta hurt. Not as bad as giving Alex Smith an extension, but still pretty painful.

It reminds me of the time Seattle flushed away 9 million on Matt Flynn only to get benched by a rookie drafted a round later than Carr was drafted.

IndelibleScribe
09-01-2014, 04:31 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Breaking: Raiders players have been informed that the team is making the switch at QB and starting Derek Carr over Matt Schaub</p>&mdash; Jay Glazer (@JayGlazer) <a href="https://twitter.com/JayGlazer/statuses/506563994652803076">September 1, 2014</a></blockquote>
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First time they will have a legit QB since Gannon.
Out of all of the QB's in the draft this year, Carr was my favorite after Bridgewater. I want to see Carr do well, but the Raiders must suffer!

pricejj
09-01-2014, 04:49 PM
Can you imagine people here if anunike put up 11 tackles and three sacks?

Half the board would be calling him the next Simon fletcher and pricejj would be reviewing Demarcus Wares cap number

Leave me out of this. I have nothing to do with it. Nobody cares about the homosexual angle except you.

You didn't make a peep when Jeremy Beal was cut, who was a WAY better college player than Michael Sam ever dreamed of being. Both are similar physically. What about Jamie Blatnick? Get a grip.

Tombstone RJ
09-01-2014, 04:53 PM
36.

that too :)

LikeABoss5820
09-01-2014, 04:55 PM
Not totally surprised by Carr but thought they might have gone with Schaub early.

Tombstone RJ
09-01-2014, 04:55 PM
8 million dollars flushed away on Matt Schaub. That's gotta hurt. Not as bad as giving Alex Smith an extension, but still pretty painful.

well sure, I guess if you are a glass half empty guy. But if you are a glass half full guy then it's an $8m insurance policy should Carr get destroyed. So the faiders have that going for them...

baja
09-01-2014, 04:57 PM
well sure, I guess if you are a glass half empty guy. But if you are a glass half full guy then it's an $8m insurance policy should Carr get destroyed. So the faiders have that going for them...

I guess the question becomes is Schaub that bad or is Carr that good

mennonite
09-01-2014, 04:58 PM
So...how will the Raiders **** this up?

baja
09-01-2014, 04:59 PM
So...how will the Raiders **** this up?

They have ruined many a QB starting them too early behind weak lines.