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Broncos_OTM
12-22-2012, 08:31 PM
CJ needs 108 now for 2000

SouthStndJunkie
12-23-2012, 12:09 AM
If Calvin Johnson gets 214 yards receiving next week (he had 225 yards this week), he would end up with 2,106 yards receiving, which would best Eric Dickerson's single season rushing record of 2,105, set in 1984.

Of course, Adrian Peterson is going to be gunning for that record as well.

SouthStndJunkie
12-23-2012, 12:58 PM
Adrian Peterson had 25 carries for 86 yards today.

That gives him 1,898 yards on the season.

102 yards away from 2,000 yards, 208 yards away from breaking Eric Dickerson's record of 2,105 yards.

Minnesota plays Green Bay next week.

lonestar
12-23-2012, 01:53 PM
Adrian Peterson had 25 carries for 86 yards today.

That gives him 1,898 yards on the season.

102 yards away from 2,000 yards, 208 yards away from breaking Eric Dickerson's record of 2,105 yards.

Minnesota plays Green Bay next week.

That could be questionable if he gets his 2K. Greenbay is looking pretty damned good right now.

But by then MIN has nothing to lose other than push him to do so.

SouthStndJunkie
12-23-2012, 05:59 PM
Records/Milestones (Updated):

Passing attempts: Drew Bledsoe owns the single season record of 691, set in 1994. Matt Stafford has 685 attempts, with 1 game left to play. With 7 attempts next week, Matthew Stafford will have the record.

Steven Jackson went over 10,000 career rushing yards a few weeks back. Jackson has 990 yards rushing on the season and only needs 10 yards next week to notch his 8th straight season of rushing for 1,000+ yards.

Adrian Peterson has 1,898 yards rushing on the season and is 102 yards away from 2,000 yards, and 208 yards away from breaking Eric Dickerson's record of 2,105 yards. Minnesota plays Green Bay next week.

Calvin Johnson (117) and Brandon Marshall (113) have a chance to finish the season with 2nd most receptions in a single season. They won't reach Marvin Harrison's all time record of 143 receptions, set in 2002, but they could reach the 2nd spot, of 123 receptions, set by Herman Moore in 1995 and Wes Welker in 2009.

Speaking of Wes Welker, he has 100 receptions on the season, his 5th season of 100+ receptions, which is a new NFL record.

Calvin Johnson has 1,892 receiving yards on the season and passed Jerry Rice's single season mark of 1,848 yards, set in 1995. Calvin Johnson only needs 108 receiving yards to hit the 2,000 yard mark. If Calvin Johnson gets 214 yards receiving next week (he had 225 yards this week), he would end up with 2,106 yards receiving, which would best Eric Dickerson's single season rushing record of 2,105, set in 1984.

On a Denver related note, it would be nice to see Demaryius Thomas and Eric Decker both end up with 1,000+ receiving yard seasons with 10+ TDs. Denver has never had 2 receivers notch 1,000+ yards receiving and 10+ TDs in the same season. DMT has 87 receptions for 1,312 yards and 9 TDs. Eric Decker has 78 receptions for 988 yards and 11 TDs.

Peyton Manning is 377/554 (68.1%) for 4,355 yards with 34 TDs and 11 INTs.

The single season passing marks for the Denver Broncos are: completions (384 Jay Cutler in 2008), attempts (616 Jay Cutler in 2008), completion percentage (68.1%) by Peyton Manning in 2012 with Brian Griese at 66.7% in 2002), 4,526 yards (Jay Cutler in 2008), and 34 TDs (34 TDs Peyton Manning in 2012). I look for Peyton Manning to break all of them this season, except the passing attempts mark, which is fine, as it means Denver starting running the ball well down the stretch run.

All purpose yards: Darren Sproles set the record with 2,696 all purpose yards in 2011. Randall Cobb has 2,342 all purpose yards with 1 game left to play. With only 101 all purpose yards today from Cobb, Sproles will probably keep the record.

The single season sack mark of 22.5 was set by Michael Strahan in 2001. 3 players have a chance to reach that mark. J.J. Watt had 1 sack today, to give him 20.5 sacks with 1 game left to play. Aldon Smith has 19.5 sacks with tonight's game being played right now, as well as next week's game. Von Miller had 1.5 sacks today, to give him 17.5 on the season, which surpassed Elvis Dumervil's club record of 17.0 sacks, set in 2009. Von Miller won't break the NFL record, but props on the team record and a shot at 20 sacks. One a side note, Elvis Dumervil had 2 sacks today, which gives him 11.0 sacks on the season.

The punting yards record in a season could fall as well. The record of 4,968 yards was set by Andy Lee in 2007. Dave Zastudil of Arizona has 4,904 punting yards with 1 game left to play.

The forced fumbles in a season mark could be topped. Keep in mind, the record hasn't been closely tracked until the last 12 or so seasons, so I'm sure one of the old timers has topped this mark. Osi Umenyiora holds the record of 10 forced fumbles in 2010, but Charles Tillman has 10 forced fumbles this season to tie the record, with 1 game left to play.

SouthStndJunkie
12-23-2012, 07:37 PM
Including playoff games, Denver is 22-5 overall versus Cleveland, including 10 wins in a row.

Denver hasn't lost to Cleveland in over 22 years....since October 8th, 1990.

SouthStndJunkie
12-23-2012, 07:37 PM
They might be the mistake by the lake, but we've got the deed to that bitch.

Beantown Bronco
12-23-2012, 07:51 PM
Steven Jackson went over 10,000 career rushing yards a few weeks back. Jackson has 990 yards rushing on the season and only needs 10 yards next week to notch his 8th straight season of rushing for 1,000+ yards.

He's my Ed Reeeeeeeed.

SouthStndJunkie
12-24-2012, 02:23 AM
Broncos single-season sack leaders

2012 Von Miller ... 17 1/2
2009 Elvis Dumervil ... 17
1992 Simon Fletcher ... 16
1993 Simon Fletcher ... 13 1/2
1991 Simon Fletcher ... 13 1/2
1986 Rulon Jones ... 13 1/2
1999 Trevor Pryce ... 13
1996 Alfred Williams ... 13
1985 Karl Mecklenburg ... 13

RedskinBronco
12-24-2012, 06:24 AM
I wonder how Mara is taking these Giants whippings.

Oh well, time for him to regroup this offseason and "make things fair" for his precious Giants. What a piece of ****; I wonder what outrageous bull **** he will come out with next.

Maybe he will stop philly from getting a high draft pick. Jackass.

Kaylore
12-24-2012, 11:59 AM
I wanted to check to see if there is some kind of trend for playing well late in the season and winning the SB.

Going back to 2000 SB winners are 35-13 in December and 18-6 the last two games of the year.

The Saints are the only team to have a losing record in December and win the SB in that time frame. Only three teams have split the month and won the SB. The Packers, Colts and Giants. Packers and Giants got hot and the Colts wanted to rest their starters.

Basically playing well in December can be one indicator of being a SB team.

DENVERDUI55
12-24-2012, 12:25 PM
He's my Ed Reeeeeeeed.

I agree we stole Champ and had a chance at the best RB in the draft when he fell to us and took an underachieving LB.

CEH
12-24-2012, 12:53 PM
Records/Milestones (Updated):

Passing attempts: Drew Bledsoe owns the single season record of 691, set in 1994. Matt Stafford has 685 attempts, with 1 game left to play. With 7 attempts next week, Matthew Stafford will have the record.

Steven Jackson went over 10,000 career rushing yards a few weeks back. Jackson has 990 yards rushing on the season and only needs 10 yards next week to notch his 8th straight season of rushing for 1,000+ yards.

Adrian Peterson has 1,898 yards rushing on the season and is 102 yards away from 2,000 yards, and 208 yards away from breaking Eric Dickerson's record of 2,105 yards. Minnesota plays Green Bay next week.

Calvin Johnson (117) and Brandon Marshall (113) have a chance to finish the season with 2nd most receptions in a single season. They won't reach Marvin Harrison's all time record of 143 receptions, set in 2002, but they could reach the 2nd spot, of 123 receptions, set by Herman Moore in 1995 and Wes Welker in 2009.

Speaking of Wes Welker, he has 100 receptions on the season, his 5th season of 100+ receptions, which is a new NFL record.

Calvin Johnson has 1,892 receiving yards on the season and passed Jerry Rice's single season mark of 1,848 yards, set in 1995. Calvin Johnson only needs 108 receiving yards to hit the 2,000 yard mark. If Calvin Johnson gets 214 yards receiving next week (he had 225 yards this week), he would end up with 2,106 yards receiving, which would best Eric Dickerson's single season rushing record of 2,105, set in 1984.

On a Denver related note, it would be nice to see Demaryius Thomas and Eric Decker both end up with 1,000+ receiving yard seasons with 10+ TDs. Denver has never had 2 receivers notch 1,000+ yards receiving and 10+ TDs in the same season. DMT has 87 receptions for 1,312 yards and 9 TDs. Eric Decker has 78 receptions for 988 yards and 11 TDs.

Peyton Manning is 377/554 (68.1%) for 4,355 yards with 34 TDs and 11 INTs.

The single season passing marks for the Denver Broncos are: completions (384 Jay Cutler in 2008), attempts (616 Jay Cutler in 2008), completion percentage (68.1%) by Peyton Manning in 2012 with Brian Griese at 66.7% in 2002), 4,526 yards (Jay Cutler in 2008), and 34 TDs (34 TDs Peyton Manning in 2012). I look for Peyton Manning to break all of them this season, except the passing attempts mark, which is fine, as it means Denver starting running the ball well down the stretch run.

All purpose yards: Darren Sproles set the record with 2,696 all purpose yards in 2011. Randall Cobb has 2,342 all purpose yards with 1 game left to play. With only 101 all purpose yards today from Cobb, Sproles will probably keep the record.

The single season sack mark of 22.5 was set by Michael Strahan in 2001. 3 players have a chance to reach that mark. J.J. Watt had 1 sack today, to give him 20.5 sacks with 1 game left to play. Aldon Smith has 19.5 sacks with tonight's game being played right now, as well as next week's game. Von Miller had 1.5 sacks today, to give him 17.5 on the season, which surpassed Elvis Dumervil's club record of 17.0 sacks, set in 2009. Von Miller won't break the NFL record, but props on the team record and a shot at 20 sacks. One a side note, Elvis Dumervil had 2 sacks today, which gives him 11.0 sacks on the season.

The punting yards record in a season could fall as well. The record of 4,968 yards was set by Andy Lee in 2007. Dave Zastudil of Arizona has 4,904 punting yards with 1 game left to play.

The forced fumbles in a season mark could be topped. Keep in mind, the record hasn't been closely tracked until the last 12 or so seasons, so I'm sure one of the old timers has topped this mark. Osi Umenyiora holds the record of 10 forced fumbles in 2010, but Charles Tillman has 10 forced fumbles this season to tie the record, with 1 game left to play.

I think with 3 more TDs Manning will hold the record for most TDs in a season for a QB over 35 years old (Farve/S Young)

SouthStndJunkie
12-24-2012, 05:17 PM
The Bears cut second-year wide receiver Dane Sanzenbacher, who played in five games this season. He had one reception for seven yards.

Sanzenbacher, an undrafted free agent from Ohio State in 2011, led all Bears wide receivers with three touchdown catches as a rookie in 2011. He was Cutler’s go-to receiver after Earl Bennett was injured, catching 19 passes for 166 yards and three touchdowns in six games.

But his playing time diminished once Bennett returned, and he finished his rookie year with 27 receptions for 276 yards.

SouthStndJunkie
12-24-2012, 05:18 PM
I know it's late in the season, but Dane Sanzenbacher would be an upgrade over Matthew Willis.

He'd the kind of guy Peyton Manning could count on in the slot, as Brandon Stokley can't play forever and needs to be use on a limited basis.

Dane Sanzenbacher is a precise route runner and is known for being where he needs to be and making the tough catches....all attributes that Peyton Manning loves in his WRs.

I doubt it will happen, but I know he is an upgrade over Matthew Willis.

SouthStndJunkie
12-24-2012, 05:19 PM
Matthew Willis is a player I've been looking to upgrade on the roster for the last few seasons.

Action
12-24-2012, 05:31 PM
I know it's late in the season, but Dane Sanzenbacher would be an upgrade over Matthew Willis.

He'd the kind of guy Peyton Manning could count on in the slot, as Brandon Stokley can't play forever and needs to be use on a limited basis.

Dane Sanzenbacher is a precise route runner and is known for being where he needs to be and making the tough catches....all attributes that Peyton Manning loves in his WRs.

I doubt it will happen, but I know he is an upgrade over Matthew Willis.

You really think a WR getting cut on a team that has one of the worst WR corps in the league would be an upgrade?

SouthStndJunkie
12-24-2012, 06:21 PM
You really think a WR getting cut on a team that has one of the worst WR corps in the league would be an upgrade?

Yes....I wouldn't exactly call the Bears one of the more competent teams in terms of offensive team roster evaluation, look at the offensive line they've assembled.

Besides, do you really see Matthew Willis as being a valuable asset?

Name a few plays in particular that have given you this notion.

I see him as a player on the roster begging for an upgrade to be brought in.

I'm not saying signing Dane Sanzenbacher would be a roster shattering, difference making move. I'm saying I think it would be one of those in season shrewd moves that John Elway and company have made this season that would be a minor upgrade on the roster.

If they don't do it this season, as it's probably a little late to bring him in and get him acclimated to the offense in such a short time frame, they should sign him when the season is over if nobody has claimed him.

Sanzenbacher is the kind if of player who would attach himself at the hip to Peyton Manning in the offseason and get on the same page with and come into training camp and have some chemistry and cohesiveness right off the bat.

SouthStndJunkie
12-24-2012, 06:36 PM
I'd envision Dane Sanzenbacher playing the same role as Anthony Gonzalez filled with the Colts for a few years before injuries derailed his career.

SouthStndJunkie
12-24-2012, 06:52 PM
The San Francisco 49ers are still assessing the damage a day after a thorough defeat at the hands of the division rival Seattle Seahawks, but the early returns are not good.

Wide receiver Mario Manningham tore both the ACL and PCL in his left knee, sources told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

BroncoBuff
12-25-2012, 01:51 AM
You serious about Sanzenbauer ... he's a fringe performer. I think Gonzalez is from Ohio State too, but I can't see much else to compare. Gonzalez was pretty good his forst couple years.

And is Willis that bad? He's just #4 WR, plus Dreesen and Tamme, couldn't have expected much production from him.

Action
12-25-2012, 02:19 AM
Yes....I wouldn't exactly call the Bears one of the more competent teams in terms of offensive team roster evaluation, look at the offensive line they've assembled.

Besides, do you really see Matthew Willis as being a valuable asset?

Name a few plays in particular that have given you this notion.

I see him as a player on the roster begging for an upgrade to be brought in.

I'm not saying signing Dane Sanzenbacher would be a roster shattering, difference making move. I'm saying I think it would be one of those in season shrewd moves that John Elway and company have made this season that would be a minor upgrade on the roster.

If they don't do it this season, as it's probably a little late to bring him in and get him acclimated to the offense in such a short time frame, they should sign him when the season is over if nobody has claimed him.

Sanzenbacher is the kind if of player who would attach himself at the hip to Peyton Manning in the offseason and get on the same page with and come into training camp and have some chemistry and cohesiveness right off the bat.

I agree that we need to get some more help at the WR position, but I don't think Dane Sazenbacher is the solution. Bring him in to compete?

He's white I'm sure they'll heavily consider it :rofl:

SouthStndJunkie
12-25-2012, 07:42 AM
I'm not saying Dane Sanzenbacher would be a stud for Denver....I'm saying he would be an upgrade on the roster from the spot that is currently occupied by Matthew Willis. Small upgrades like that on the back end of your roster can make a difference at some point and time.

Matthew Willis never looks like he is in synch with Peyton Manning and has caused at least one INT this year by running the wrong route and not being where Peyton Manning was expecting him to be.

SouthStndJunkie
12-25-2012, 07:49 AM
You serious about Sanzenbauer ... he's a fringe performer. I think Gonzalez is from Ohio State too, but I can't see much else to compare. Gonzalez was pretty good his forst couple years.

And is Willis that bad? He's just #4 WR, plus Dreesen and Tamme, couldn't have expected much production from him.

Compare?

Same college, both All-Big Ten 1st Team, both white, same slot WR role, one is 6'0 and 190 pounds, the other is 5'11 and 180 pounds. Both known for running precise routes and making the tough catch with traffic around them. Sanzenbacher can also return punts, which Gonzalez never did.

SouthStndJunkie
12-25-2012, 07:51 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/25/for-manning-broncos-success-begins-with-tamme/

For Manning, Broncos’ success begins with Tamme

SouthStndJunkie
12-25-2012, 07:52 AM
Jacob Tamme is having a nice season:

51 receptions for 542 yards and 2 TDs.

Factor in Joel Dreessen's season: 39 receptions for 341 yards and 5 TDs and Denver has had excellent production from the TE position.

Jacob Tamme: 51-542-2 TDs
Joel Dreessen: 39-341-5 TDs
Virgil Green: 3-44-0 TDs
Juius Thomas: 1-5-0 TDs

Total Tight End Production: 94 receptions for 932 yards and 7 TDs.

errand
12-25-2012, 10:05 AM
Jacob Tamme is having a nice season:

51 receptions for 542 yards and 2 TDs.

Factor in Joel Dreessen's season: 39 receptions for 341 yards and 5 TDs and Denver has had excellent production from the TE position.

Jacob Tamme: 51-542-2 TDs
Joel Dreessen: 39-341-5 TDs
Virgil Green: 3-44-0 TDs
Juius Thomas: 1-5-0 TDs

Total Tight End Production: 94 receptions for 932 yards and 7 TDs.

Who would have thunk it right?

lonestar
12-25-2012, 11:00 AM
Jacob Tamme is having a nice season:

51 receptions for 542 yards and 2 TDs.

Factor in Joel Dreessen's season: 39 receptions for 341 yards and 5 TDs and Denver has had excellent production from the TE position.

Jacob Tamme: 51-542-2 TDs
Joel Dreessen: 39-341-5 TDs
Virgil Green: 3-44-0 TDs
Juius Thomas: 1-5-0 TDs

Total Tight End Production: 94 receptions for 932 yards and 7 TDs.

Right up their with the super bowl teams with Sharpe on them. Perhaps not as many over the middle catches but almost the same numbers.

SouthStndJunkie
12-25-2012, 06:50 PM
The Bengals claimed WR Dane Sanzenbacher off waivers from the Bears and placed rookie CB Dre Kirkpatrick on injured reserve.

RedskinBronco
12-25-2012, 08:08 PM
Some interesting stats. The bolded ones are pretty amazing IMO.

Stats of the Week No. 1: Denver and Washington are on a combined 16-0 streak.

Stats of the Week No. 2: Detroit and Tampa are on a combined 0-12 streak.

Stats of the Week No. 3: Cam Newton is on a streak of 11 touchdown passes and just one interception.

Stats of the Week No. 4: Chicago and San Diego have combined for 17 return touchdowns.

Stats of the Week No. 5: Cleveland has not defeated Denver in 23 years.

Stats of the Week No. 6: Tennessee has won a game by 34 points and lost a game by 48 points.

Stats of the Week No. 7: New Orleans has not fumbled on a rushing play; Philadelphia has 17 fumbles on runs.

Stats of the Week No. 8: New Orleans is on a pace to allow 6,946 yards of offense, the worst total ever.

Stats of the Week No. 9: Kansas City gained 507 yards on offense at home, including a 262-yard edge in yards rushing, and lost.

Stats of the Week No. 10: Last week Baltimore lost, and made the playoffs. This week Miami won, and was eliminated.

http://espn.go.com/espn/playbook/story/_/id/8775315/tmq-hopes-gifts-nfl-team-christmas-tree

oubronco
12-26-2012, 07:50 PM
49ers' WR Manningham Out for Season with Torn ACL (http://b.bm324.com/public/?q=ulink&fn=Link&ssid=10573&id=0b2sksb6torjc161a0b5r7jjmfo2k&id2=2brh4hj4fqjljugfbgw284nbr5e9s&subscriber_id=bxjxvysfpjynctexhjvxdpwyxibubae&delivery_id=aogsdjcccjlowthepuirldynejpsbpg&tid=3.KU0.BZh5QQ.DD8b.Po8f..eWrg.b..l.Aprx.a.UNtZ_ A.UNtZ_A.wWcxfw)

SouthStndJunkie
12-28-2012, 01:24 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/28/terrelle-pryor-to-start-for-raiders-on-sunday/

Terrelle Pryor to start for Raiders on Sunday

SouthStndJunkie
12-28-2012, 01:25 PM
Smart move....no better time than right now for Oakland to get a chance to evaluate Terrelle Pryor in a regular season game.

Kaylore
12-28-2012, 02:15 PM
Smart move....no better time than right now for Oakland to get a chance to evaluate Terrelle Pryor in a regular season game.

Palmer has actually had a decent year, given the circumstances. I imagine this is as much about showing the fans how crappy Pryor is so when they cut him in the offseason they aren't all up in arms and realize he's just another wasted pick by Al Davis.

SouthStndJunkie
12-28-2012, 03:48 PM
Palmer has actually had a decent year, given the circumstances. I imagine this is as much about showing the fans how crappy Pryor is so when they cut him in the offseason they aren't all up in arms and realize he's just another wasted pick by Al Davis.

Carson Palmer is out with cracked ribs and a bruised lung.

Matt Leinart came in and stunk last week.

The staff can game plan for a full week around Terrelle Pryor and then see what he can do.

I bet he plays a little better than most people think he will.

Pryor will make some mistakes I'm sure, but I bet he makes a few big plays as well.

From what I've been hearing, Oakland might void the final 2 years of Palmer's contract and look in another direction next season.

SouthStndJunkie
12-28-2012, 04:48 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/28/sean-payton-agrees-to-multi-year-contract-with-saints/

Sean Payton agrees to multi-year contract with Saints

baja
12-28-2012, 07:11 PM
smart of them

broncosteven
12-28-2012, 07:30 PM
The Bengals claimed WR Dane Sanzenbacher off waivers from the Bears and placed rookie CB Dre Kirkpatrick on injured reserve.

Sanzenbacher is terrible, but he was a duh bear fan TC favorite.

broncosteven
12-28-2012, 07:32 PM
Carson Palmer is out with cracked ribs and a bruised lung.

Matt Leinart came in and stunk last week.

The staff can game plan for a full week around Terrelle Pryor and then see what he can do.

I bet he plays a little better than most people think he will.

Pryor will make some mistakes I'm sure, but I bet he makes a few big plays as well.

From what I've been hearing, Oakland might void the final 2 years of Palmer's contract and look in another direction next season.

All I saw out of Pryor when they played him a couple series vs kFc was dinking and dunking. I don't see this guy as a legit NFL QB. I wonder if Oakland doesn't keep Palmer one more year and try to find 2 more QB's.

RedskinBronco
12-28-2012, 07:36 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/28/sean-payton-agrees-to-multi-year-contract-with-saints/

Sean Payton agrees to multi-year contract with Saints

I'll take that. I don't want his ass in Dallas and building that team up the right way.

Payton is a top notch, elite coach.

lonestar
12-28-2012, 09:58 PM
I'll take that. I don't want his ass in Dallas and building that team up the right way.

Payton is a top notch, elite coach.

It is not the HC hat builds the team in DAL. It is Jerry Jones and his EGO that builds and directs his team.

SouthStndJunkie
12-28-2012, 10:16 PM
All I saw out of Pryor when they played him a couple series vs kFc was dinking and dunking. I don't see this guy as a legit NFL QB. I wonder if Oakland doesn't keep Palmer one more year and try to find 2 more QB's.

Hard to judge a QB on his first few series playing in the NFL.

Not saying Terrelle Pryor is going to be awesome or anything, but that is a fairly small sample size.

Carson Palmer hasn't been the same QB between when Kimo von Oelhoffen of the Steelers blew up his knee in the 2005 playoffs and then the 2008 elbow injury that sidelined him for most of the season.

Palmer can still sling it around the yard, but since the injuries he's gotten happy feet any time there is any activity around his legs. He turns the ball over a lot. His arrival in Oakland certainly hasn't resulted in a lot of wins.

Mike Brown should have been arrested for robbery for getting all the draft picks he did out of that deal.

Back to Terrelle Pryor....at least he is the one QB on their roster that has the ability to pull the ball down and make a play on his own with his feet. If the other offensive players are on the same page as Pryor he might be able to parlay that athletic ability into some big plays.

peacepipe
12-29-2012, 04:50 AM
Carson hasn't had much of a team around him.

SouthStndJunkie
12-29-2012, 06:51 AM
Carson hasn't had much of a team around him.

The NFL is a QB driven league....if Carson were anything above average these days, Oakland would be better than 4-11.

Everyone said Indianapolis had no talent last season when they were 2-14.

The season before they were 10-6 with Peyton Manning slinging the rock and this season they are 10-5 with Andrew Luck.

Carson Palmer has over 4,000 yards passing this season, but he's been a stat accumulator in Oakland....a lot of yardage in the 4th quarters of blowout losses.

Palmer has turned the ball over 19 times (14 INTs and 5 lost fumbles) this season.

He's due a base salary of $13 million next season.

Since he's been in Oakland he has 35 TD passes and 30 INTs with 6 lost fumbles....more turnovers than TDs is never a good thing.

I will admit that Oakland is thin talent wise, but a good to great QB raises the level of play of those around him.

baja
12-29-2012, 06:54 AM
Wonder what the Broncos record would if we has an average QB playing instead of Manning?

SouthStndJunkie
12-29-2012, 07:32 AM
Wonder what the Broncos record would if we has an average QB playing instead of Manning?

I know one thing....it wouldn't be 12-3.

Kaylore
12-29-2012, 07:52 AM
Wonder what the Broncos record would if we has an average QB playing instead of Manning?

We were 8-8.

baja
12-29-2012, 07:59 AM
I know one thing....it wouldn't be 12-3.


Having Manning this year after all the disappointing seasons preceding his arrival has really brought home the value of an elite QB. Of course it has always been the most important position but in todays game I don't think you can win a championship without one.

I don't think there will be a Trent Dilfer type QB winning the super bowl ever again.

baja
12-29-2012, 08:01 AM
We were 8-8.

I loved watching TT work his will in the games late but really is he even average?

Kaylore
12-29-2012, 08:56 AM
I loved watching TT work his will in the games late but really is he even average?

He was below average. As a running QB he was above average. Depends on how you look at it, I guess.

Broncoman13
12-29-2012, 09:06 AM
Tebow is probably my favorite player in the league... But definitely below average as a QB. Hope he doesn't remain stubborn and decides one day that he can have a long productive career at a different position.

Cito Pelon
12-29-2012, 09:23 AM
Russell Wilson is one badass dude. Dude is one of the best NFL players I've seen in a long time.

misturanderson
12-29-2012, 12:22 PM
He was below average. As a running QB he was above average. Depends on how you look at it, I guess.

I would argue that the 8-8 record was a huge overachievement for that team as well. How many miraculous finishes did we have that required an onside recovery, a running back running out of bounds when all he needed to do was stay in bounds to run out the clock, etc. to get to that record?

Last year's team was a mirage like the 2008 team that had a negative point differential, neither team was truly an 8-8 team, they just got lucky.

This team without Manning could easily be a sub-500 team depending on who ended up at QB. The defense wouldn't have as many chances to tee-off and rush the QB (affecting both sacks and turnovers) and the offense clearly wouldn't be as good.

With how turnovers have worked this season, we have been UNlucky this year (which seems to have turned around somewhat) and still sit at 12-3 with a shot at the #1 seed.

swaiy
12-29-2012, 12:29 PM
Any team could be sub .500 depending on the QB.

misturanderson
12-29-2012, 03:54 PM
Any team could be sub .500 depending on the QB.

I was responding to the idea that since we were 8-8 last year with Tebow, that was the bar and we are maybe +5 wins from that team.

I think that last year was a huge, miraculous fluke and that the team was more realistically a 5-win or less team had they not had everything bounce their way at the end of their wins. So the idea that Manning only improved this team from 8 to 12-13 wins is somewhat inaccurate.

This is also the argument that I feel makes Manning more valuable to the Broncos than AP to the vikings.

SouthStndJunkie
12-29-2012, 08:05 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/29/report-browns-will-fire-shurmur-heckert-after-sundays-game/

Report: Browns will fire Shurmur, Heckert after Sunday’s game

SouthStndJunkie
12-31-2012, 10:48 AM
Records/Milestones after Week 17:

Passing attempts: Drew Bledsoe owned the single season record of 691, set in 1994. Matt Stafford passed him up on Sunday and ended up with 727 passing attempts and now owns the single season record.

Steven Jackson went over 10,000 career rushing yards a few weeks back. Jackson ended up with 1,042 yards rushing, giving him 8 straight seasons with over 1,000 yards rushing.

Adrian Peterson broke the 2,000 yard barrier and ended up with 2,097 yards rushing, falling 9 yards short of breaking Eric Dickerson's single season rushing record.

Calvin Johnson (122), Brandon Marshall (118), and Wes Welker (118) had a chance to finish the season with 2nd most receptions in a single season. Marvin Harrison's all time record of 143 receptions, set in 2002, is still intact, as is the 2nd spot, of 123 receptions, set by Herman Moore in 1995 and Wes Welker in 2009.

Speaking of Wes Welker, he had 118 receptions on the season, his 5th season of 100+ receptions, which is a new NFL record.

Calvin Johnson finished the season with 1,964 receiving yards on the season and passed Jerry Rice's single season mark of 1,848 yards, set in 1995. Calvin Johnson missed being the first WR to break 2,000 receiving yards in a single season by 36 yards.

Demaryius Thomas and Eric Decker both ended up with 1,000+ receiving yard seasons with 10+ TDs. Denver had never had 2 receivers notch 1,000+ yards receiving and 10+ TDs in the same season. DMT finished up with 94 receptions for 1,434 yards yards and 10 TDs. Eric Decker finished up with 85 receptions for 1,064 yards and 13 TDs.

Peyton Manning finished the season with these stats: 400/583 (68.6%) for 4,659 yards with 37 TDs and 11 INTs.

Peyton Manning broke the single season team records for all the major passing categories except passing attempts. Jay Cutler still owns that record with 616 passing attempts in 2008.

All purpose yards: Darren Sproles set the record with 2,696 all purpose yards in 2011. Randall Cobb had 2,342 all purpose yards with 1 game left to play. Cobb was injured and missed Green Bay's last game, so Sproles will keep the record.

The single season sack mark of 22.5 was set by Michael Strahan in 2001. 3 players had a chance to reach that mark. J.J. Watt finished the season with 20.5 sacks, Aldon Smith finished the season with 19.5 sacks, and Von Miller finished the season with 18.5 sacks, which broke the single season franchise record of 17.0 sacks, set by Elvis Dumervil in 2009.

The punting yards record in a season was broken this season. The record of 4,968 yards was set by Andy Lee in 2007. Dave Zastudil broke the record with 5,209 punting yards this season. Dave Zastudil also broke the single season punting record for most punts downed inside the 20 yard line with 46 punts.

The forced fumbles in a season mark was tied, but not broken. Keep in mind, the record hasn't been closely tracked until the last 12 or so seasons, so I'm sure one of the old timers has topped this mark. Osi Umenyiora held the record of 10 forced fumbles in 2010, but Charles Tillman forced fumbles this season to tie the record.

broncosteven
12-31-2012, 11:47 AM
Devin Hester heartbroken about Lovie Smith being fired, Per a sound bite on Chicago's AM670 The Score and NFL Network he said he was not sure that he wanted to play football any more.

Talk about overreacting...

Boltjolt
12-31-2012, 11:53 AM
Tebow is probably my favorite player in the league... But definitely below average as a QB. Hope he doesn't remain stubborn and decides one day that he can have a long productive career at a different position.

I predict next season will be Tebows last in the NFL.

TheReverend
01-01-2013, 09:24 AM
I would argue that the 8-8 record was a huge overachievement for that team as well. How many miraculous finishes did we have that required an onside recovery, a running back running out of bounds when all he needed to do was stay in bounds to run out the clock, etc. to get to that record?

Last year's team was a mirage like the 2008 team that had a negative point differential, neither team was truly an 8-8 team, they just got lucky.

This team without Manning could easily be a sub-500 team depending on who ended up at QB. The defense wouldn't have as many chances to tee-off and rush the QB (affecting both sacks and turnovers) and the offense clearly wouldn't be as good.

With how turnovers have worked this season, we have been UNlucky this year (which seems to have turned around somewhat) and still sit at 12-3 with a shot at the #1 seed.

Tim wasn't 8-8. Tim was 7-4 or 8-5 if you include postseason

errand
01-01-2013, 09:33 AM
Wonder what the Broncos record would if we has an average QB playing instead of Manning?

We'd have finished 8-8 if that...but you'd have been happy, because in your mind they wouldn't have been a classless organization.

broncosteven
01-01-2013, 12:36 PM
Tim wasn't 8-8. Tim was 7-4 or 8-5 if you include postseason

or 8-6 / 9-6 if you count 2010.

DBroncos4life
01-01-2013, 03:44 PM
Brandon Jacobs was waived by the 49ers. Awesome timing LOL

maher_tyler
01-01-2013, 04:42 PM
Brandon Jacobs was waived by the 49ers. Awesome timing LOL

What does this mean? Can other teams claim him?

DBroncos4life
01-01-2013, 04:49 PM
What does this mean? Can other teams claim him?

Yeah they can but he can't play.

RedskinBronco
01-01-2013, 04:57 PM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8800439/andy-reid-favorite-become-arizona-cardinals-coach-sources

per Schefter

SouthStndJunkie
01-08-2013, 04:53 PM
The Dallas Cowboys have fired defensive coordinator Rob Ryan, sources have told FOXSports.com.

Lestat
01-08-2013, 05:10 PM
but when is the OC getting fired though. that's the real question.

lolcopter
01-08-2013, 05:17 PM
but when is the QB getting fired though. that's the real question.

also this

errand
01-08-2013, 05:18 PM
but when is the OC getting fired though. that's the real question.

Dallas needs to fire the GM....but since he owns the team, guess that'll never happen

Lestat
01-08-2013, 05:29 PM
also this

i'm not going to say you're right, but... you're not wrong. Hilarious!

Dallas needs to fire the GM....but since he owns the team, guess that'll never happen
this is what happens when Parcells turns your team around and then you get a big head.
Cowboys haven't drafted or developed for **** since Parcells put up two deuces and headed for south beach.

DBroncos4life
01-08-2013, 07:19 PM
@johnpboyle
Re: espn.go.com/community/twitter/...
As @RapSheet reported, #Seahawks will sign DE Patrick Chukwurah to replace Clemons. They're looking at him as 3rd-down rusher/special teams

crush17
01-08-2013, 07:19 PM
Seahawks sign ol' pal Chukwurah

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000124042/article/seattle-seahawks-to-sign-defensive-end-patrick-chukwurah

Tim
01-08-2013, 08:26 PM
Seahawks sign ol' pal Chukwurah

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000124042/article/seattle-seahawks-to-sign-defensive-end-patrick-chukwurah

I always get him and nate webster mixed up cause they both sucked and had the same haircut but then I remember nate raped an underage girl and he's locked up for a few years.

g6matty
01-08-2013, 08:40 PM
what ever happen to that Odom guy from cincinatti hes supposed to be a pass rusha

SouthStndJunkie
01-09-2013, 07:05 PM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8830219/brian-kelly-notre-dame-fighting-irish-interviews-philadelphia-eagles-coaching-vacancy-sources

Brian Kelly interviews with Eagles

Lestat
01-09-2013, 07:12 PM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8830219/brian-kelly-notre-dame-fighting-irish-interviews-philadelphia-eagles-coaching-vacancy-sources

Brian Kelly interviews with Eagles

oh wow, if he left ND i would almost die laughing at the golden domers.

DBroncos4life
01-09-2013, 07:36 PM
oh wow, if he left ND i would almost die laughing at the golden domers.

They have the number one recruiting class in college as well.

RedskinBronco
01-09-2013, 07:37 PM
oh wow, if he left ND i would almost die laughing at the golden domers.

Sneaky guy.

He was saying a few days back how leaving Notre Dame is "not an option"

Lestat
01-09-2013, 07:39 PM
They have the number one recruiting class in college as well.

depends on the site you look at. most have A&M,Bama or Michigan #1.
of course A&M has 36 commits.

ColoradoBuff
01-10-2013, 09:21 AM
Mularkey fired after one season with the Jags

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8831771/mike-mularkey-jacksonville-jaguars-fired-2-14-season

bronco militia
01-10-2013, 09:23 AM
Mularkey fired after one season with the Jags

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8831771/mike-mularkey-jacksonville-jaguars-fired-2-14-season

Tebow is a coach killer :~ohyah!:

Tim
01-10-2013, 09:24 AM
Mularkey fired after one season with the Jags

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8831771/mike-mularkey-jacksonville-jaguars-fired-2-14-season

Turning down Elway for that interview 2 years ago was a big mistake for that jerk

Kaylore
01-10-2013, 09:26 AM
Turning down Elway for that interview 2 years ago was a big mistake for that jerk

And a blessing for us.

winstoncup bronco
01-10-2013, 09:30 AM
Turning down Elway for that interview 2 years ago was a big mistake for that jerk

He didn't just turn down Elway, he basically told him to go eff himself.

Mularkey claimed he was "too busy" to interview, even though he had already interviewed elsewhere. Granted, Elway didn't do himself any favors by forgetting Mularkey's name, but who says they're too busy to interview for an NFL head coaching position?

Lestat
01-10-2013, 10:10 AM
He didn't just turn down Elway, he basically told him to go eff himself.

Mularkey claimed he was "too busy" to interview, even though he had already interviewed elsewhere. Granted, Elway didn't do himself any favors by forgetting Mularkey's name, but who says they're too busy to interview for an NFL head coaching position?

fools who get fired.

DBroncos4life
01-10-2013, 11:15 AM
depends on the site you look at. most have A&M,Bama or Michigan #1.
of course A&M has 36 commits.

Some reason I prefer Rivals. Maybe I shouldn't since Scout has NU at 12 and Rivals has NU at 21. It's funny that both sites flip the amount of 5 stars both Mich and ND have. 3 to 1 vs 1 to 3.

Smiling Assassin27
01-10-2013, 12:31 PM
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

Steelers announced they waived RB Chris Rainey following his arrest for a domestic battery incident this morning in Gainesville, Fla

But Ben still pulls a check.

DBroncos4life
01-10-2013, 12:35 PM
#Steelers took a stronger stand than Urban Meyer ever did. Team announces Chris Rainey has been waived following his arrest in Gainesville




Pittsburgh Steelers waive Chris Rainey after arrest


By Gregg Rosenthal
Around The League editor
Published: Jan. 10, 2013 at 12:55 p.m. Updated: Jan. 10, 2013 at 03:31 p.m.

Pittsburgh Steelers running back Chris Rainey was arrested Thursday morning and charged with one count of simple battery (dating violence), the Gainesville, Fla., police department confirmed.

The Steelers later announced they have waived Rainey.

The police received a call at 8:26 am ET about a verbal altercation between Rainey and his girlfriend that turned physical. Rainey also went to school in Gainesville at the University of Florida.

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"Witnesses told officers that Rainey and the victim got into an argument over Rainey's cellphone. The female victim entered the vehicle of Rainey's roommate, and Rainey confronted her on the passenger side of the vehicle, and began pulling her out of the vehicle," the statement read. "Witnesses then observed Rainey slap the victim across the face with an open hand.

"Both Rainey and the female victim then fell to the ground. The victim was able to run away, but Rainey chased after her because his cellphone was in a bag the victim was carrying. Rainey grabbed the bag again and they both fell to the ground again. Neither party suffered visible injuries from the encounter. Multiple witnesses confirmed the incident."

Rainey denied hitting the victim at the scene of the crime. He remains in custody.

"He did admit to some of the altercation. He admitted he grabbed her bag, which caused both of them to fall and he admitted to chasing her. He denied slapping her, but we had several witnesses to that," Gainesville police public information officer Ben Tobias said in a telephone interview.

This is not the first arrest for Rainey, who pleaded guilty to to misdemeanor stalking while at Florida. Another Steelers rookie, Alameda Ta'amu was also arrested on 18 charges following a wild, drunk car chase earlier in the season.

http://www.google.com/#sclient=tablet-gws&hl=en&tbo=d&q=chris+rainey+arrested&oq=chris+rainey+&gs_l=tablet-gws.1.2.0l3.3960.6296.2.7891.3.2.1.0.0.0.872.1009. 0j1j6-1.2.0.les%3Bepsugrpq1high..0.0...1.1.noJV85kd6g8&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.&bvm=bv.1357700187,d.aWM&fp=675d598f47eaa401&biw=1280&bih=752

Kaylore
01-10-2013, 12:39 PM
Wow. Rainey is really good.

DBroncos4life
01-10-2013, 12:49 PM
Wow. Rainey is really good.

Yeah part of me is like pick him up then I saw the stalking charges and soured on that. Steelers have big question marks at RBs going into the draft. Redman is a RFA, Mendehall is a UFA, and Jonathan Dwyer is a RFA as well. I know they have control of two of those guys but I would't be shocked to see them draft Lacy.

TheReverend
01-10-2013, 01:09 PM
Wow. Rainey is really good.

Yet they kept Ben and Harrison...

Kaylore
01-10-2013, 01:31 PM
Yet they kept Ben and Harrison...

Hilarious! So true.

oubronco
01-10-2013, 03:14 PM
Wow. Rainey is really good.

Sounds like he got tackled twice by the woman, maybe she was a big woman

Requiem
01-10-2013, 03:26 PM
Sounds like he is crazy. (http://deadspin.com/5974921/steelers-rb-chris-rainey-who-once-texted-time-to-die-bitch-to-a-woman-arrested-for-allegedly-slapping-his-girlfriend)

DBroncos4life
01-10-2013, 07:27 PM
Cowboys are going to hire Monte Kiffin and blow up the 3-4 D they have been running.

SouthStndJunkie
01-10-2013, 07:33 PM
The Cleveland Browns have hired Rob Chudzinski as their new coach, a source told ESPN.

Chudzinski has spent the past two seasons as the Carolina Panthers' offensive coordinator. He also served two stints as an assistant with the Browns, the team he rooted for while growing up in Toledo, Ohio.

SouthStndJunkie
01-10-2013, 07:34 PM
I think Rob Chudzinski was a good choice for the Browns.

I know he didn't have the greatest season with Carolina this season, but there were a lot of people that contributed to that.

SouthStndJunkie
01-10-2013, 07:50 PM
It looks like Chudzinski will hire Norv Turner as his offensive coordinator.

Solid move, Norv Turner is similar to Wade Phillips....both very good coordinators when able to concentrate on their respective sides of the ball, but in a little over their heads when asked to run the entire show as a head coach.

orange crusher
01-10-2013, 08:17 PM
Mularkey fired after one season with the Jags

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8831771/mike-mularkey-jacksonville-jaguars-fired-2-14-season

That must be Mark Mularke they're talking about.

Tombstone RJ
01-10-2013, 08:22 PM
It looks like Chudzinski will hire Norv Turner as his offensive coordinator.

Solid move, Norv Turner is similar to Wade Phillips....both very good coordinators when able to concentrate on their respective sides of the ball, but in a little over their heads when asked to run the entire show as a head coach.


Weeden should really benefit from Norv Turners offense.

TheReverend
01-11-2013, 04:46 AM
Weeden should really benefit from Norv Turners offense.

Norv really benefits YOUNG QBs though...

Lestat
01-11-2013, 03:29 PM
Norv really benefits YOUNG QBs though...

he's young in experience though. like a 40 year old virgin.

DBroncos4life
01-11-2013, 06:58 PM
Rob Ryan is the new Rams DC. I'm not a fan of Ryan, but this could be a good move for them.

Tim
01-11-2013, 07:03 PM
Rob Ryan is the new Rams DC. I'm not a fan of Ryan, but this could be a good move for them.

I guess Gregg Williams' career is over

Lestat
01-11-2013, 08:02 PM
Rob Ryan is the new Rams DC. I'm not a fan of Ryan, but this could be a good move for them.

he wasn't wrong, he wasn't out of work long.
him and Fisher should make a very nice pairing in St Louis.

DBroncos4life
01-11-2013, 08:12 PM
he wasn't wrong, he wasn't out of work long.
him and Fisher should make a very nice pairing in St Louis.

Do they make the move to a 3-4 now though?

Lestat
01-11-2013, 10:45 PM
that's what he normally runs but Fisher is a 4-3 guy and the Rams are set up for a 4-3.

SouthStndJunkie
01-16-2013, 06:08 AM
CHICAGO -- The Chicago Bears ended their search for a new coach early Wednesday morning when they made the decision to bring aboard the Montreal Alouettes' Marc Trestman as the franchise's 14th head coach.

Ray Finkle
01-16-2013, 06:39 AM
CHICAGO -- The Chicago Bears ended their search for a new coach early Wednesday morning when they made the decision to bring aboard the Montreal Alouettes' Marc Trestman as the franchise's 14th head coach.

and Socal firmly hops on the Trestman bandwagon.....until he bad mouths ****ler and is intern forever in Socal's scorn list.

TheReverend
01-16-2013, 06:49 AM
CHICAGO -- The Chicago Bears ended their search for a new coach early Wednesday morning when they made the decision to bring aboard the Montreal Alouettes' Marc Trestman as the franchise's 14th head coach.

Bold move, but a litany of experience and I think he'll do great.

Fun fact: He took over as OC for Shanny in SF after he became HC in Denver.

Tombstone RJ
01-16-2013, 08:53 AM
Doesn't Trestman have a coaching relationship with Cutler too?

Smiling Assassin27
01-16-2013, 09:02 AM
Chris Mortensen ‏@mortreport

Chip Kelly is the new coach of the Philadelphia Eagles, according to league sources. No announcement yet.

BroncoInferno
01-16-2013, 09:06 AM
Chris Mortensen ‏@mortreport

Chip Kelly is the new coach of the Philadelphia Eagles, according to league sources. No announcement yet.

Whoa. If true, that came out of left field. I thought he'd put the NFL talk to rest, for this season at least. They must have thrown a pile of cash at him.

broncosteven
01-16-2013, 09:06 AM
Doesn't Trestman have a coaching relationship with Cutler too?

Dunno, He was an OC for the 9ers and Raiders before going to Canada

He missed out and lost the CFL's Annis Stukus Award. If my name was Annis I would spell it Anus.

Tombstone RJ
01-16-2013, 09:08 AM
Dunno, He was an OC for the 9ers and Raiders before going to Canada

He missed out and lost the CFL's Annis Stukus Award. If my name was Annis I would spell it Anus.

I heard on the lightrail that Trestman was a QB coach for Jay Cutty while he was in college, or something along those lines. Can anyone confirm this?

BroncoInferno
01-16-2013, 09:10 AM
Doesn't Trestman have a coaching relationship with Cutler too?

He hasn't had an NFL job since 2004, so unless he was Cutler's private coach or something, then no. Odd hire. I remember him from the late-90s, but he's an anachronism at this point. I mean, he worked with Bernie Kosar and Rich Gannon when he was with Minnesota, for chrissakes. Literally 20 years ago!

broncosteven
01-16-2013, 09:11 AM
I heard on the lightrail that Trestman was a QB coach for Jay Cutty while he was in college, or something along those lines. Can anyone confirm this?

NCAA
He entered football coaching at the University of Miami in 1981 as a volunteer coach. In 1983 he was named quarterbacks coach. That year quarterback Bernie Kosar passed for 2,329 yards and Miami won the national championship. The next year Kosar completed 262 passes for 3,642 yards, both school records.
In 2005, he returned to college football as the North Carolina State Wolfpack offensive coordinator, guiding the Wolfpack to a win in the Meineke Car Care Bowl.

BroncoInferno
01-16-2013, 09:12 AM
I heard on the lightrail that Trestman was a QB coach for Jay Cutty while he was in college, or something along those lines. Can anyone confirm this?

According to wiki, after leaving the NFL, he was with NC State in 2005-06, then took the CFL job.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Trestman

Tombstone RJ
01-16-2013, 09:18 AM
According to wiki, after leaving the NFL, he was with NC State in 2005-06, then took the CFL job.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Trestman

fair enough. Hey, he HAS worked with Twilight! :yayaya:

TheReverend
01-16-2013, 09:50 AM
fair enough. Hey, he HAS worked with Twilight! :yayaya:

...what?

TonyR
01-16-2013, 01:38 PM
I thought Trestman and Cutler were going to be a good match until I read this, and now I think just the opposite could be true:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/16/tim-brown-shocked-trestman-got-bears-head-coach-job/

Rohirrim
01-16-2013, 01:52 PM
I thought Trestman and Cutler were going to be a good match until I read this, and now I think just the opposite could be true:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/16/tim-brown-shocked-trestman-got-bears-head-coach-job/

I sense another episode in the saga of JAY CUTLER: COACH KILLER!
(cue the organ music)

Cito Pelon
01-16-2013, 01:54 PM
Trestman is one of those nerdy type coaches NFL players and analysts like to pick on.

I remember he was bagged on because he dropped out of coaching for a while and became a stock broker. He hasn't been with a team for very long that I've seen, seems to get kicked out after a year or two. Strikes me as a June Jones, Cam Cameron kind of guy.

broncosteven
01-16-2013, 01:59 PM
I thought Trestman and Cutler were going to be a good match until I read this, and now I think just the opposite could be true:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/16/tim-brown-shocked-trestman-got-bears-head-coach-job/

I was in the car listening to Carmen, Jurko, Harry (the show after Waddle and Silvy) and they mentioned Tim Brown and also went on for an hour about what Jerry Rice said when Trestman was fired from the 49ers in 1997. They found an article on line where Rice piled on Trestman for making him run under routes and take hits all year.

I think Marshall is Trestman's type of WR, more of a YAC guy who can get open quickly and make a guy miss.

I doubt Cutler buys into him though...

Cito Pelon
01-16-2013, 03:04 PM
Marc Trestman & Jay Cutler.
June Jones & Jeff George.

Sound similar?

Lestat
01-16-2013, 05:31 PM
should be an interesting fit for Cutler.

TheReverend
01-17-2013, 06:24 AM
Guess since it hasn't been posted yet, I'll say it:

Gus Bradley (Seahawks DC) becomes Jacksonville's new HC

Broncoman13
01-17-2013, 06:47 AM
I think Gus Bradley will do a pretty good job, but not sure anyone can be successful in Jax. Kind of like Cleveland South!

Kaylore
01-17-2013, 07:04 AM
Jacksonville has had some decent teams and some good players.

Over the last decade J-Ville has had 6 seasons .500 or above to the Browns who have had just one. And the Browns usually only win 5-6 games. The Jags usually are somewhere around .500 at least. It's just Mularkey is a horrible coach.

TheReverend
01-17-2013, 07:09 AM
Jacksonville has had some decent teams and some good players.

Over the last decade J-Ville has had 6 seasons .500 or above to the Browns who have had just one. And the Browns usually only win 5-6 games. The Jags usually are somewhere around .500 at least. It's just Mularkey is a horrible coach.

And Gabbert's not doing anyone any favors either...

lonestar
01-17-2013, 09:41 AM
Marc Trestman & Jay Cutler.
June Jones & Jeff George.

Sound similar?

Matches made in heaven.

Wonder how long the new regime gets before cutlet gets them fired. Ahahahahaha

bronco militia
01-17-2013, 10:47 AM
I don't get the Bears new hire...I remember Trestmen pissing everyone off in San Fran and Oakland.

Cito Pelon
01-17-2013, 03:01 PM
Trestman already moved along DC Rod Marinelli, or it was Marinelli's choice to move along. Trestman is bringing in his coaching staff from Montreal. The Bears ST coach Dave Toub I think went to KC. New GM hired last year, Phil Emery, new HC this year Trestman, new ST coach, new DC, new OC, new OL coach, new RB coach.

Marinelli should get a job pretty fast. Mike Tice? who knows.

Cito Pelon
01-17-2013, 03:06 PM
I don't get the Bears new hire...I remember Trestmen pissing everyone off in San Fran and Oakland.

Trestman never stayed long at any NFL job he had. Supposedly did well, but never seemed to stick around. Now with CHI it's like Jerry Glanville North, except he doesn't have Warren Moon. Maybe he can make Cutler into a Moon, I guess that's what they're counting on.

Tombstone RJ
01-17-2013, 03:15 PM
Trestman already moved along DC Rod Marinelli, or it was Marinelli's choice to move along. Trestman is bringing in his coaching staff from Montreal. The Bears ST coach Dave Toub I think went to KC. New GM hired last year, Phil Emery, new HC this year Trestman, new ST coach, new DC, new OC, new OL coach, new RB coach.

Marinelli should get a job pretty fast. Mike Tice? who knows.

Is Cutler the next one to leave?

Cito Pelon
01-17-2013, 03:30 PM
Is Cutler the next one to leave?

I think Cutler has a couple years left on his contract, so who knows? There's some upheaval going on there, and I guess we'll see how Cutler does. He's supposed to be the franchise guy, but he disses everybody they try to bring in to work with him. I think Jeremy Bates is still there, his old pal from Denver, but maybe Cutler wanted Bates as the OC, so he'll disrespect the new guy Kromer. Who knows, it's a soap opera like a lot of NFL teams.

TheReverend
01-17-2013, 03:30 PM
Is Cutler the next one to leave?

With a couple Lombardis in tow in 2020? Yup.

SouthStndJunkie
01-17-2013, 06:02 PM
The Arizona Cardinals have hired Bruce Arians as their new head coach, a team source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

TheReverend
01-17-2013, 06:29 PM
The Arizona Cardinals have hired Bruce Arians as their new head coach, a team source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

Color me stunned.

/sarcasm

Lestat
01-17-2013, 07:46 PM
And Gabbert's not doing anyone any favors either...

Gabbert was a bad pick at the spot he was taken.
but the talent on that team is horrible outside of MJD & Lewis, Blackmon is showing flashes but not consistent yet(which is normal for a 1st year WR).
Mularkey is a horrible HC, good OC but after the Buffalo disaster he should never have again been a HC.

TonyR
01-18-2013, 06:10 AM
Jeremy Bates out in Chicago. Cutler will probably have his dad dropping off his playbook any day now...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/17/jeremy-bates-out-in-chicago/

Rohirrim
01-18-2013, 06:29 AM
The fuse is burning on the frown cannon.

yerner
01-18-2013, 06:42 AM
Lombardi to Cleveland? Steamer.

Gutless Drunk
01-18-2013, 07:15 AM
"The Jets have interviewed no fewer than nine candidates, only two of whom have GM experience -- Jerry Angelo and Ted Sundquist"

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/8855002/john-idzik-seattle-seahawks-emerges-front-runner-new-york-jets-general-manager-according-sources

No Xanders?

Rohirrim
01-18-2013, 07:17 AM
"The Jets have interviewed no fewer than nine candidates, only two of whom have GM experience -- Jerry Angelo and Ted Sundquist"

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/8855002/john-idzik-seattle-seahawks-emerges-front-runner-new-york-jets-general-manager-according-sources

No Xanders?

In NY, they deliver.

SouthStndJunkie
01-18-2013, 08:49 AM
Lombardi to Cleveland? Steamer.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/18/mike-lombardi-interviews-with-browns-today/

Mike Lombardi becomes the Browns’ V.P. of player personnel

SouthStndJunkie
01-18-2013, 08:50 AM
I liked the hiring of Rob Chudzinski as head coach, as well as Norv Turner as offensive coordinator....but Mike Lombardi is a douchebag.

Tombstone RJ
01-18-2013, 08:55 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/18/mike-lombardi-interviews-with-browns-today/

Mike Lombardi becomes the Browns’ V.P. of player personnel

Hilarious! fail!

SouthStndJunkie
01-18-2013, 08:56 AM
This comment on PFT was funny:

trollhammer20 says: Jan 18, 2013 9:13 AM

Memo to Browns new owner: When you tell fans it’s your goal to bring a Lombardi to Cleveland, this isn’t what they were expecting.

Kaylore
01-18-2013, 09:40 AM
The Browns have never gotten over letting Belichik go. They keep trying to re-do that. It's the Cubs who keep bringing a goat to the stadium instead of getting good players, good pitcing and seeing it through.

Rascal
01-18-2013, 09:40 AM
I feel sorry for Brown fans. They are destined for mediocrity.

SouthStndJunkie
01-18-2013, 10:10 AM
Living in NW Ohio, I know a lot of Browns fans.

As much as I used to dislike the team back in the day when Denver was beating them in the AFC Championship Games, they deserve a winning team.

Those fans had to endure getting their team yanked out from under them in 1995 to Baltimore (and then had to watch them become good and win a Super Bowl), go without a team for 3 season, until the Browns were brought back in 1999....and they've stunk to the tune of:

73 wins and 151 losses.....that's a .325 winning percentage.

Averaged 5.2 wins a year since getting back into the league in 1999.

1 playoff appearance, which was a loss.

Their fans have stuck with them and still support them and they deserve better than the **** sandwiches they've been served up the last 14 seasons.

Lestat
01-18-2013, 10:13 AM
good lord, they really hired Lombardi as GM? this is a damn travesty for Browns fans.

Rohirrim
01-18-2013, 10:22 AM
Living in NW Ohio, I know a lot of Browns fans.

As much as I used to dislike the team back in the day when Denver was beating them in the AFC Championship Games, they deserve a winning team.

Those fans had to endure getting their team yanked out from under them in 1995 to Baltimore (and then had to watch them become good and win a Super Bowl), go without a team for 3 season, until the Browns were brought back in 1999....and they've stunk to the tune of:

73 wins and 151 losses.....that's a .325 winning percentage.

Averaged 5.2 wins a year since getting back into the league in 1999.

1 playoff appearance, which was a loss.

Their fans have stuck with them and still support them and they deserve better than the **** sandwiches they've been served up the last 14 seasons.

I felt that way about the Bills when I used to live there. Four SBs in a row? Norwood? And they still pile into Orchard Park and root for that team. In bad weather too. I'm thankful for Pat Bowlen. ;D

TheReverend
01-18-2013, 10:24 AM
The factory of sadness rolls on.

DBroncos4life
01-18-2013, 10:52 AM
The Browns have never gotten over letting Belichik go. They keep trying to re-do that. It's the Cubs who keep bringing a goat to the stadium instead of getting good players, good pitcing and seeing it through.

Or its like Pedro Cerrano needed to sacrifice a live chicken to hit a curve ball and Jake Taylor gets him KFC instead.

SouthStndJunkie
01-18-2013, 02:05 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/18/browns-hire-ray-horton-as-defensive-coordinator/

Browns hire Ray Horton as defensive coordinator

broncosteven
01-18-2013, 02:26 PM
The Browns have never gotten over letting Belichik go. They keep trying to re-do that. It's the Cubs who keep bringing a goat to the stadium instead of getting good players, good pitcing and seeing it through.

They had good pitching, Maddox was a stud.

They ground Wood and that other bum down though, the a-hole who lost the Bartman game.

They have spent money recently, I think coaching has let them down more than the talent. Dusty Baker should haw won with those teams.

Lestat
01-18-2013, 03:15 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/18/browns-hire-ray-horton-as-defensive-coordinator/

Browns hire Ray Horton as defensive coordinator

2 mil a year to be the DC and a 4 season contract. they weren't ****ing around.
and Chicago just hired Mel Tucker as their DC.
Indy is snagging Pep Hamilton for their OC job(he was Luck's OC in college after Shaw became HC)

though i do find it funny that the Jets hired Mornhinweg as OC. he's going to be in the same situation as with Philly. except far less weapons and a QB who can't stop screwing up.

SoCalBronco
01-18-2013, 10:56 PM
Good article on Frank Gore.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/18/sports/football/49ers-frank-gore-was-a-special-back-at-miami.html?pagewanted=1&_r=0

If he never got injured in the summer of 2002, he would be an absolute lock for the HOF. He was as sick as it gets as a freshman. He still may get there, anyway, with another couple years of good production.

lonestar
01-19-2013, 02:42 PM
Living in NW Ohio, I know a lot of Browns fans.

As much as I used to dislike the team back in the day when Denver was beating them in the AFC Championship Games, they deserve a winning team.

Those fans had to endure getting their team yanked out from under them in 1995 to Baltimore (and then had to watch them become good and win a Super Bowl), go without a team for 3 season, until the Browns were brought back in 1999....and they've stunk to the tune of:

73 wins and 151 losses.....that's a .325 winning percentage.

Averaged 5.2 wins a year since getting back into the league in 1999.

1 playoff appearance, which was a loss.

Their fans have stuck with them and still support them and they deserve better than the **** sandwiches they've been served up the last 14 seasons.

Considering the browns @.325% is bad it is probably more than the city of Cleveland deserves.

Those loyal fans are simply to dumb to move to a southern state, where live is better.

That One Guy
01-19-2013, 07:54 PM
Good article on Frank Gore.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/18/sports/football/49ers-frank-gore-was-a-special-back-at-miami.html?pagewanted=1&_r=0

If he never got injured in the summer of 2002, he would be an absolute lock for the HOF. He was as sick as it gets as a freshman. He still may get there, anyway, with another couple years of good production.

I think he's a lock for the hall of pretty decent.

I don't think anything about him stands out as elite. Just very solid.

2KBack
01-20-2013, 05:37 AM
I think he's a lock for the hall of pretty decent.

I don't think anything about him stands out as elite. Just very solid.

Didn't you know? All Miami players are HOF it's just coaching and injuries get in the way sometimes.

DBroncos4life
01-20-2013, 03:40 PM
Jason La Canfora said that Balt is prepared to pay Joe Flacco 17 million dollars next year. So he will be tagged if no deal is reached.

peacepipe
01-21-2013, 03:27 PM
http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=8865345

former Broncos GM Ted Sundquist, who interviewed for the job nine days ago, said Johnson told him it wasn't his idea. Sundquist said it was his impression that the trade was "forced" on Johnson and team president Neil Glat, who also participated in the interview.

Sundquist's description of the interview makes it sound as though Johnson was blaming former GM Mike Tannenbaum for the Tebow debacle; in a sense, Johnson did exactly that, firing Tannenbaum one day after the regular season ended.

The Jets hired former Seahawks executive John Idzik as their new general manager last week. He will be introduced at a news conference Thursday.

Johnson also said, according to Sundquist, that he eventually "jumped on board" with the Tebow idea, deferring to his football people.

"They realized it was divisive and hard on the locker room, and they wanted an exit strategy," Sundquist told ESPNNewYork.com, sharing the vibe he received from Johnson and Glat.

Lestat
01-21-2013, 06:11 PM
i saw that earlier and laughed. what football people sold the owner on Tebow exactly?

SouthStndJunkie
01-27-2013, 02:02 PM
http://www.gq.com/sports/profiles/201302/nfl-anthony-smith-oakland-raiders-murder?currentPage=1

Raider. QB Crusher. Murderer?

This is kind of a long read, but interesting.

SouthStndJunkie
01-29-2013, 09:22 AM
Did Ray Lewis use banned deer-antler spray to return from triceps injury?

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/trending/Ray-Lewis-SWATS-doping-Sports-Illustrated-banned-substance.html

The zany story of two self ordained sports science entrepreneurs

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20130129/the-strange-lab-that-lured-numerous-athletes/

Lestat
01-29-2013, 10:35 AM
every time Ray is in the SB some **** comes up.

oubronco
01-29-2013, 04:40 PM
The NFL says "Look the other way please"

Ross prescribed a deluxe program, including holographic stickers on the right elbow; copious quantities of the powder additive; sleeping in front of a beam-ray light programmed with frequencies for tissue regeneration and pain relief; drinking negatively charged water; a 10-per-day regimen of the deer-antler pills that will "rebuild your brain via your small intestines" (and which Lewis said he hadn't been taking, then swallowed four during the conversation); and spritzes of deer-antler velvet extract (the Ultimate Spray) every two hours.

"Spray on my elbow every two hours?" Lewis asked.

"No," Ross said, "under your tongue."

Toward the end of the talk, Lewis asked Ross to "just pile me up and just send me everything you got, because I got to get back on this this week."

broncosteven
01-29-2013, 05:15 PM
every time Ray is in the SB some **** comes up.

Only stuff like cheating/doping, murder, and obstruction of justice.

TonyR
02-09-2013, 09:37 AM
Anquan Boldin says he'll retire if the Ravens release him...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000137458/article/anquan-boldin-says-hell-retire-if-released-by-ravens


Ravens cap situation (not good):

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000137425/article/baltimore-ravens-eye-seismic-changes-to-counter-cap-squeeze

Tombstone RJ
02-09-2013, 09:42 AM
The ravens need to let some players go like Ray Rice. The the Broncos need to pick up Ray Rice.

TheReverend
02-09-2013, 10:54 AM
Anquan Boldin says he'll retire if the Ravens release him...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000137458/article/anquan-boldin-says-hell-retire-if-released-by-ravens

...Until someone knocks on his agent's door with 40 million dollars.

s0phr0syne
02-10-2013, 01:42 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/10/spielman-tiptoes-around-the-percy-harvin-problem/

Can we just acquire Harvin and fulfill a fanboy dream?

:-P

Play2win
02-10-2013, 01:58 PM
Peyton + Percy = Match made in heaven.

DBroncos4life
02-10-2013, 03:31 PM
The Broncos would save $6 million in salary cap space by releasing LB D.J. Williams.
It's the same number as his $6M base salary. Williams served two NFL suspensions in 2012, appearing in only seven games and starting just one. We'd look for the Broncos to cut ties with Williams as soon as this week.
Source: Denver Post Feb 10 - 6:04 PM

Rohirrim
02-10-2013, 05:18 PM
The question is, how would Harvin and PMFM get along? Would Percy come in and join the team, or would he expect everybody to kiss his ass?

broncosteven
02-10-2013, 06:18 PM
The Broncos would save $6 million in salary cap space by releasing LB D.J. Williams.
It's the same number as his $6M base salary. Williams served two NFL suspensions in 2012, appearing in only seven games and starting just one. We'd look for the Broncos to cut ties with Williams as soon as this week.
Source: Denver Post Feb 10 - 6:04 PM

Unless they move DJ back to MLB and start him there, I don't see him on the team next year.

Someone like Chicago would be sure to swoop in and pick him up the minute he gets cut.

That One Guy
02-10-2013, 06:47 PM
Unless they move DJ back to MLB and start him there, I don't see him on the team next year.

Someone like Chicago would be sure to swoop in and pick him up the minute he gets cut.

Chicago for DJ? I thought they still had WLB covered but were in the same boat as us - a need for MLB?

Smiling Assassin27
02-11-2013, 08:53 AM
Schefty:

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

Michael Vick and the Eagles needed each other for 2013. It's a win-win. They succeed, they stay together. They don't they break up.

Josina:

Josina Anderson ‏@JosinaAnderson

----->RT @mortreport: Eagles and QB Michael Vick agree to terms on a restructured contract

Tombstone RJ
02-11-2013, 10:43 AM
Kelly is going to do good things with Vick... pistol offense anyone?

SpringStein
02-11-2013, 11:00 AM
Chiefs and Titans being visited by Canty.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/11/chris-canty-draws-interest-from-titans-and-chiefs/

BroncoInferno
02-11-2013, 11:05 AM
Kelly is going to do good things with Vick... pistol offense anyone?

Vick can't stay healthy in a traditional pro-style offense. He'll be lucky to make it through 5 games in Kelly's offense.

s0phr0syne
02-11-2013, 11:08 AM
https://twitter.com/NickBarnett/status/301039612426592257


MLB Nick Barnett released by the Bills.


I wanted the dude when he was released from GB, not sure if he's too old for us or not, but he's a great 4-3 MLB. Maybe great is a bit of a stretch, but IMO he's still playing at an above average level.

Tombstone RJ
02-11-2013, 11:51 AM
Vick can't stay healthy in a traditional pro-style offense. He'll be lucky to make it through 5 games in Kelly's offense.

I guess we will have to just wait and see...

Wes Mantooth
02-11-2013, 03:52 PM
I guess we will have to just wait and see...

There's a storied history of how Kelly goes through qb's. Vick is not 20 anymore.

DENVERDUI55
02-11-2013, 04:16 PM
Unless they move DJ back to MLB and start him there, I don't see him on the team next year.

Someone like Chicago would be sure to swoop in and pick him up the minute he gets cut.

Yeah the only place that DJ would beat Briggs out is on Madden being played by a Bronco Homer.

broncosteven
02-11-2013, 04:32 PM
Chicago for DJ? I thought they still had WLB covered but were in the same boat as us - a need for MLB?

They have Nick Roach playing SAM They have zero depth at LB.

DJ has played mike for us before, no reason they couldn't ask him to move back inside just like we would ask him to do if they don't cut him.

Tombstone RJ
02-11-2013, 04:54 PM
There's a storied history of how Kelly goes through qb's. Vick is not 20 anymore.

well it should be fun to watch anyway! As for Vick's health, he's just got to protect himself better. I think he will benefit for the pistol as it will keep the defense guessing on whether he is gonna pass or run. If he runs (and we know he will) he's got to get the yards he can and get down or get out of bounds.

DBroncos4life
02-11-2013, 05:10 PM
There's a storied history of how Kelly goes through qb's. Vick is not 20 anymore.
Dennis Dixon to the rescue.

That One Guy
02-11-2013, 06:00 PM
They have Nick Roach playing SAM They have zero depth at LB.

DJ has played mike for us before, no reason they couldn't ask him to move back inside just like we would ask him to do if they don't cut him.

Hmm.. I thought Briggs had extended or something and was still playing decent. If they need to get a WLB and MLB in the same offseason, I could see them going for a vet like DJ, I guess.

Any team that wants to build around DJ as MLB, though... well.. good luck with that.

Wes Mantooth
02-11-2013, 06:46 PM
Dennis Dixon to the rescue.

Who was one of Kellys victims. He went through 4 or 5 qb's one year.

TonyR
02-11-2013, 06:51 PM
Vick can't stay healthy in a traditional pro-style offense. He'll be lucky to make it through 5 games in Kelly's offense.

This whole Chip Kelly thing has fail written all over it. I liked this quote:

"The Eagles have some fast players, no doubt, but everybody has fast players and the difference between the Eagles and the rest of the league isn’t that great," one head coach said. "The other thing is there were probably only four or five games where Oregon really got tested physically. When you have that kind of talent, you can put a game plan together in 15 minutes, practice for a day and be ready to roll up 50 points." http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--eagles--chip-kelly-could-use-jimmy-johnson-s-tenure-with-cowboys-as-blueprint-220456153.html

That One Guy
02-11-2013, 08:34 PM
This whole Chip Kelly thing has fail written all over it. I liked this quote:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--eagles--chip-kelly-could-use-jimmy-johnson-s-tenure-with-cowboys-as-blueprint-220456153.html

The sucky part is if this backfires, it could set back offensive innovation bigtime.

And as for the quote, I think that's a bit overboard. How many Oregon players have gone on to become anyone in the NFL? The guy wasn't stacked with talent compared to some of the big dogs yet was still in the mix every year. If he could get that out of role players, imagine what he can do with NFL talent.

He might not but I'll definitely say I'm excited to see what could happen.

DBroncos4life
02-11-2013, 08:35 PM
Redskins | Keith Burns hired
Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:42:35 -0800

The Washington Redskins have hired Denver Broncos assistant special teams coach Keith Burns as their new special teams coach.

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Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz2KekVAKYQ

broncosteven
02-11-2013, 09:00 PM
Redskins | Keith Burns hired
Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:42:35 -0800

The Washington Redskins have hired Denver Broncos assistant special teams coach Keith Burns as their new special teams coach.

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Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz2KekVAKYQ

Good for him!

broncosteven
02-11-2013, 09:04 PM
Hmm.. I thought Briggs had extended or something and was still playing decent. If they need to get a WLB and MLB in the same offseason, I could see them going for a vet like DJ, I guess.

Any team that wants to build around DJ as MLB, though... well.. good luck with that.

Brigg's play is falling off. He can't rush the passer anymore, is still solid against the run but he is getting burned in coverage. Roach was Urlacker's backup but they needed a SAM so they moved him there. Roach should not be starting, they are hurting at LB. DJ would be a stop gap who should be cheaper than Urlacker and even if they signed him cheap they need the depth, he would be an excellent backup for Briggs. I don't see teams passing DJ over just because of the Wizz, hell Vick just got a new deal!

KipCorrington25
02-12-2013, 06:25 PM
We need cap space? Cut Rahim Moore. Wait, what, it won't save up much, it's not worth it? Cut him anyway.

errand
02-12-2013, 06:38 PM
The sucky part is if this backfires, it could set back offensive innovation bigtime.

And as for the quote, I think that's a bit overboard. How many Oregon players have gone on to become anyone in the NFL? The guy wasn't stacked with talent compared to some of the big dogs yet was still in the mix every year. If he could get that out of role players, imagine what he can do with NFL talent.

He might not but I'll definitely say I'm excited to see what could happen.

Or one could argue that once he has to play a real team he gets beat.....and that he can't develop NFL talent

That One Guy
02-12-2013, 06:39 PM
Or one could argue that once he has to play a real team he gets beat.....and that he can't develop NFL talent

Very good point.

Not that it necessarily stops Texas, though.

errand
02-12-2013, 06:40 PM
We need cap space? Cut Rahim Moore. Wait, what, it won't save up much, it's not worth it? Cut him anyway.

LOL...says the guy named Kip Corrington. What ever happened to him?

Lestat
02-12-2013, 06:52 PM
Or one could argue that once he has to play a real team he gets beat.....and that he can't develop NFL talent

Oregon up until the past 3-4 years or so recruited lower tier guys and coached them up to their system. only recently have they started landing big stud type players and doing it consistently. Dion Jordan being one of them.

they've put out some solid RB's and a couple of nice TE's and DB's.

Lestat
02-12-2013, 06:58 PM
Very good point.

Not that it necessarily stops Texas, though.

Texas gets their pick of any top guy in Texas every year. they have most of their class wrapped up by fall practice. they rarely land less than a 4 star player.

Mack Brown had just got too damn comfortable and turned his staff into a country club instead of keeping his foot on the gas and keeping the Texas product elite.

same thing happened to Frank Beamer this year.

Smiling Assassin27
02-15-2013, 01:40 PM
anything here?

Bob Kravitz ‏@bkravitz

CONFIRMED: The Colts today have released Dwight Freeney and Austin Collie. More to come on http://indystar.com

lonestar
02-15-2013, 02:59 PM
Texas gets their pick of any top guy in Texas every year. they have most of their class wrapped up by fall practice. they rarely land less than a 4 star player.

Mack Brown had just got too damn comfortable and turned his staff into a country club instead of keeping his foot on the gas and keeping the Texas product elite.

same thing happened to Frank Beamer this year.

Word on the street is Texas A&M is the place to go now and is beating Mack to a lot of 4-5 star kids.

pricejj
02-15-2013, 03:22 PM
Word on the street is Texas A&M is the place to go now and is beating Mack to a lot of 4-5 star kids.

SEC vs. the crumbling Big 12. Easy decision. Add in Von Miller, Luke Joeckel, and Damontre Moore as top 5 draft picks...there ya go.

Austin is 3 hours from both Dallas and Houston. College Station is also closer to Dallas and real close to Houston.

Tombstone RJ
02-15-2013, 08:59 PM
Word on the street is Texas A&M is the place to go now and is beating Mack to a lot of 4-5 star kids.

There's simply no reason in the world Texas shouldn't be in the top 10, if not the top 5 rankings every single year in football. I'm not sure why Mack Brown hasn't been fired yet.

lonestar
02-15-2013, 09:13 PM
There's simply no reason in the world Texas shouldn't be in the top 10, if not the top 5 rankings every single year in football. I'm not sure why Mack Brown hasn't been fired yet.

Hey I agree, while I'm a huge Buff fan seeing them get their asses kicked each time almost made me into a longhorn fan. But they always fold in crunch time.

My daughter went to school in OK, used to hate them also but both OSU and OU have eaten into the wins of UT. Both have outstanding programs built with ltsnof Texas talent.

Football in TX is almost a religion, how Mack is still here is beyond me.

SouthStndJunkie
02-19-2013, 04:02 PM
The cap-strapped New York Jets began their anticipated salary dump Tuesday, releasing linebacker Bart Scott and three other veterans.

In other expected moves, the Jets also cut linebacker Calvin Pace, safety Eric Smith and tackle Jason Smith. Just like that, the Jets created $30.7 million in cap relief. It puts them about $5.7 million under the cap.

SlyEli
02-19-2013, 05:10 PM
The cap-strapped New York Jets began their anticipated salary dump Tuesday, releasing linebacker Bart Scott and three other veterans.

In other expected moves, the Jets also cut linebacker Calvin Pace, safety Eric Smith and tackle Jason Smith. Just like that, the Jets created $30.7 million in cap relief. It puts them about $5.7 million under the cap.

wonder if bart scott has anything left. I think elway and co. are thinking of sticking with the current group of guys at 'backer though.

SouthStndJunkie
02-19-2013, 08:37 PM
The Chiefs announced today that they have released wide receiver Steve Breaston and tight end Kevin Boss.

DBroncos4life
02-21-2013, 12:30 PM
Browns | Chip Kelly was not close to becoming head coach
Thu, 21 Feb 2013 11:30:04 -0800

Cleveland Browns head coach Chip Kelly said it was not accurate that he was close to becoming the head coach of the team.


Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz2LZFBnBRR

TonyR
02-21-2013, 12:45 PM
^ I'm thinking the Browns dodged a bullet.

DBroncos4life
02-21-2013, 03:21 PM
Broncos | Knowshon Moreno underwent surgery
Thu, 21 Feb 2013 12:25:40 -0800

Denver Broncos RB Knowshon Moreno (knee) underwent arthroscopic knee surgery after the season. He is rehabbing the knee at the team's facility.


Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz2LZwtOTBe

crush17
02-21-2013, 04:27 PM
what the eff knowshon

g6matty
02-21-2013, 04:29 PM
wonder if bart scott has anything left. I think elway and co. are thinking of sticking with the current group of guys at 'backer though.

http://lolsnaps.com/upload_pic/WhenMyFriendSaysShesNeverBoughtPepperSprayBecauseS heDoesntLikeSpicyFoods-26944.gif

BroncoInferno
02-22-2013, 07:18 AM
Michael Turner faces release

The Atlanta Falcons are likely to release running back Michael Turner, who is scheduled to make $6.9 million this season, league sources told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter on Friday.

Turner, 31, rushed for 800 yards and 10 touchdowns this past season as the Falcons reached the NFC Championship Game. It marked the fifth straight season in which he reached double figures in TDs.

Turner split time in 2012 with with second-year pro Jacquizz Rodgers. According to ESPN Stats & Information, Turner was on the field for 503 snaps and Rodgers took part in 502.

A two-time Pro Bowler, Turner has spent the last five seasons with the Falcons after playing his first four years with the San Diego Chargers. He has rushed for 7,338 yards and 66 TDs in 134 career games.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8973985/atlanta-falcons-likely-release-michael-turner-sources

SlyEli
02-22-2013, 08:30 AM
Michael Turner faces release

The Atlanta Falcons are likely to release running back Michael Turner, who is scheduled to make $6.9 million this season, league sources told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter on Friday.

Turner, 31, rushed for 800 yards and 10 touchdowns this past season as the Falcons reached the NFC Championship Game. It marked the fifth straight season in which he reached double figures in TDs.

Turner split time in 2012 with with second-year pro Jacquizz Rodgers. According to ESPN Stats & Information, Turner was on the field for 503 snaps and Rodgers took part in 502.

A two-time Pro Bowler, Turner has spent the last five seasons with the Falcons after playing his first four years with the San Diego Chargers. He has rushed for 7,338 yards and 66 TDs in 134 career games.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8973985/atlanta-falcons-likely-release-michael-turner-sources

does he have anything left? They rode him hard the last few years

DBroncos4life
02-22-2013, 09:51 AM
Ravens | Matt Birk retires
Fri, 22 Feb 2013 05:15:57 -0800

Baltimore Ravens C Matt Birk has retired. He played 15 seasons in the league and was a six-time Pro Bowler. His retirement saves the Ravens $2.05 million against the salary cap.


Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz2LeS9Pdif

SouthStndJunkie
02-22-2013, 12:26 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/22/nfl-eyes-signing-day-for-free-agency/

NFL eyes “signing day” for free agency

SlyEli
02-22-2013, 12:44 PM
Does anyone know when the team is gonna start making cuts? It'll be interesting to see who all gets cut, and how much money is available after. Noticed Moreno, Dj Williams, and Joe mays are all top 7 on the team in salary.

DBroncos4life
02-25-2013, 01:56 PM
Patriots | Tom Brady agrees to extension
Mon, 25 Feb 2013 13:27:10 -0800

The New England Patriots have agreed to terms with QB Tom Brady on a three-year contract extension that will run through the 2017 season. Brady will receive a $3 million signing bonus and is scheduled to make $7 million in 2015, $8 million in 2016 and $9 million in 2017. Brady was scheduled to count $43.6 million against the salary cap in 2013 and 2014 before the extension but now will count $28.6 million in 2013 and 2014.


Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/NFL?page=0#ixzz2LwzLNpMb

Bmore Manning
02-25-2013, 02:33 PM
I want to know what the later cap figures are for his new deal..

broncosteven
02-25-2013, 03:09 PM
I want to know what the later cap figures are for his new deal..

We shouldn't bend over backwards to turn Brady into a good samaritan, however. The extension, which is guaranteed, a source told NFL.com's Ian Rapoport, gives Brady the security of at least $41 million that won't be ripped up by the Patriots at a later date.

As NFL.com's Albert Breer points out, the Patriots build their organization with two-year windows in mind. A Patriots source told Breer that the Brady extension creates "well over" $30 million in salary-cap space over the next two years and $20 million for 2013 alone.

More here: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000145159/article/tom-brady-new-england-patriots-agree-to-extension

DBroncos4life
02-25-2013, 03:20 PM
We shouldn't bend over backwards to turn Brady into a good samaritan, however. The extension, which is guaranteed, a source told NFL.com's Ian Rapoport, gives Brady the security of at least $41 million that won't be ripped up by the Patriots at a later date.

As NFL.com's Albert Breer points out, the Patriots build their organization with two-year windows in mind. A Patriots source told Breer that the Brady extension creates "well over" $30 million in salary-cap space over the next two years and $20 million for 2013 alone.

More here: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000145159/article/tom-brady-new-england-patriots-agree-to-extension

The deal helps the Pats cap out but from what they are saying on TV in isn't near that amount that Breer is saying here, almost 13 million dollars difference.

In 2015 the cap will jump so that works out for both NE and TB.

DBroncos4life
02-25-2013, 03:32 PM
Patriots | Tom Brady's extension guaranteed
Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:25:55 -0800

Updating a previous report, New England Patriots QB Tom Brady's three-year, $27 million contract extension is guaranteed.


Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz2LxNbPDSw

rbackfactory80
02-25-2013, 03:51 PM
Good for him. He could have went to a team like Denver and charged 20 mill per season...

Bmore Manning
02-25-2013, 03:53 PM
It may create room upfront, but again what does it do on the back end? That's gotta be a hefty price tag after the next two years..

Good I hope they use it all on Vollmer, Welker, and Talib. I don't want them to go get any talented players.. Watch they will go hard after Jennings and resign Welker..

DBroncos4life
02-25-2013, 04:24 PM
It may create room upfront, but again what does it do on the back end? That's gotta be a hefty price tag after the next two years..

Good I hope they use it all on Vollmer, Welker, and Talib. I don't want them to go get any talented players.. Watch they will go hard after Jennings and resign Welker..

I bet they are paying for him after he is retired.

Bmore Manning
02-26-2013, 06:07 AM
I bet they are paying for him after he is retired.

Apparently not..

There is all kinds of speculation about this deal. The thing is, if the games bests don't accept market value it keeps others who are due from getting market value..

I hate New England.. They are going to try to load up on free agents..

rbackfactory80
02-26-2013, 07:01 AM
Apparently not..

There is all kinds of speculation about this deal. The thing is, if the games bests don't accept market value it keeps others who are due from getting market value..

I hate New England.. They are going to try to load up on free agents..

This deal is majorly about getting Welker inked.

CEH
02-26-2013, 07:11 AM
This deal is majorly about getting Welker inked.

Wouldn't this be cool if NE is freakiing about Welker going to Denver.
We'll see but Denver has the cap space to play the game. No need for Manning to start freaking out like Brady is doing in NE

I love it.

Rohirrim
02-26-2013, 10:35 AM
Steven Jackson is on the market. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/26/steven-jackson-to-void-final-year-of-contract-test-free-agency/related/

DBroncos4life
02-26-2013, 11:01 AM
Apparently not..

There is all kinds of speculation about this deal. The thing is, if the games bests don't accept market value it keeps others who are due from getting market value..

I hate New England.. They are going to try to load up on free agents..

While Tom Brady's contract extension lowers his average base salary and creates significant salary-cap space for the New England Patriots to surround him with a team capable of challenging for a Super Bowl, the quarterback also nearly doubled the guaranteed money owed him over the next five seasons, according to a league source who has reviewed the documents.



Until the agreement was revealed yesterday, Brady was under contract to the Patriots for two seasons with a contract containing $30 million in guarantees. Now he's under contract for five seasons with $57 million guaranteed for injury.

Brady's deal includes a $30 million signing bonus, which will be paid out over a period that extends to Feb. 15, 2015, according to a league source. Brady will earn $10 million of that signing bonus during the 2013 season, $5 million in a payment on Feb. 15, 2014, $10 million during the 2014 season, and $5 million on Feb. 15, 2015.

Brady's salaries for 2013 and 2014 are now $1 million and $2 million, respectively, and are fully guaranteed. His old deal was scheduled to pay him $9.75 million in base salary for each of those seasons.

Brady's salaries for 2015, 2016 and 2017 are $7 million, $8 million and $9 million, respectively, and are fully guaranteed for injury only, which means that if Brady is released because of an injury, he will still be paid that money. In the unlikely event that he were released due to skill considerations, he would not be paid that money.


Regarding Brady's salary cap charges, the breakdown is as follows:

2013: $13.8 million

2014: $14.8 million

2015: $13 million

2016: $14 million

2017: $15 million

The new contract also provides Brady more financial protection in the event he suffers a career-ending injury in 2013, increasing the money guaranteed to him from $25 million to $57 million. Brady has already suffered one catastrophic injury in his career, at the beginning of the 2008 season.

While the Patriots save $15 million in cap space, there is nothing preventing the team and Brady from restructuring this deal again if necessary before the quarterback retires
http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/8990773/tom-brady-guarantees-nearly-doubled-deal-source

Do you really think a 36 year old QB should have 57 million dollars left in guaranteed money left on his contract?

SouthStndJunkie
02-26-2013, 03:38 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/26/report-patriots-got-tired-of-brandon-lloyds-behavior/

Report: Patriots got tired of Brandon Lloyd’s behavior

DBroncos4life
02-26-2013, 03:49 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/26/report-patriots-got-tired-of-brandon-lloyds-behavior/

Report: Patriots got tired of Brandon Lloyd’s behavior

Yeah it sounds like he is on his way out and they are going to make a play for Bowe.

Rother8
02-26-2013, 04:00 PM
If they get Bowe/Welker, Tavon would be a decent counter for us. Or, if Minny was dumb enough, Percy would do the trick.

Drunken.Broncoholic
02-26-2013, 04:07 PM
Yeah it sounds like he is on his way out and they are going to make a play for Bowe.

So Brady gets a new shiny toy after being such a "team player"

Lestat
02-26-2013, 04:25 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/26/report-patriots-got-tired-of-brandon-lloyds-behavior/

Report: Patriots got tired of Brandon Lloyd’s behavior

lol, not at all shocking. all he does is suck on McDaniels private parts like he was the wifey.

oubronco
02-27-2013, 06:43 PM
The Jets are clearly looking to upgrade the QB position Hilarious!

Jets | Interested in Brady Quinn? (http://www.kffl.com/hotw/gnews.php?id=841393-jets-interested-in-brady-quinn?)

Wed, 27 Feb 2013 17:05:00 -0800

The New York Jets (http://www.kffl.com/team/27/nfl/new-york-jets) could be an option to try to sign impending free-agent QB Brady Quinn (http://www.kffl.com/player/13456/nfl/brady-quinn) (Chiefs). Quinn and quarterbacks coach David Lee (http://www.kffl.com/player/11610/nfl/david-lee) have a strong relationship after Lee has tutored Quinn in recent years. "I'm going to tell you this right now: Brady Quinn (http://www.kffl.com/player/13456/nfl/brady-quinn) has a stronger arm than both the Manning brothers," Lee told the Denver Post (http://www.kffl.com/link/184) in 2011. "No question. I worked them all out." Lee reportedly spoke highly of Quinn during his interview with the Jets.


Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz2M9q1d2VF

Jets | Could show interest in Matt Cassel (http://www.kffl.com/hotw/gnews.php?id=841348-jets-could-show-interest-in-matt-cassel)

Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:28:28 -0800

The New York Jets (http://www.kffl.com/team/27/nfl/new-york-jets) could show interest in QB Matt Cassel (http://www.kffl.com/player/12088/nfl/matt-cassel) if he is released in the off season.


Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/NFL?page=1#ixzz2M9qmpnX7

Rohirrim
02-27-2013, 07:08 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/26/report-patriots-got-tired-of-brandon-lloyds-behavior/

Report: Patriots got tired of Brandon Lloyd’s behavior

What a shame. The guy has killer skills. Just keeps moving from team to team until the whole league is sick of him.

Br0nc0Buster
02-27-2013, 07:13 PM
How is Brady Quinn still in the league?

BroncoBuff
02-27-2013, 09:22 PM
Brady's salary shouldn't impress us, he's not even the top earner in his own household.

What kind of man can he be? His wife's payload is THREE TIMES LARGER than his. No wonder he doesn't go deep into the postseason anymore.

broncosteven
02-28-2013, 01:08 PM
Danny Amendola going to hit FA market

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000146007/article/danny-amendola-might-be-hitting-freeagent-market

This is the guy I would like to go after. He has missed some games but he is a big time WR who can make the common and spectacular catches. He is likely the 2013 version of Wes Welker if Welker wasn't also the 2013 version of Wes Welker...nevermind...

Requiem
02-28-2013, 01:19 PM
No sense to pay a WR big bucks in FA when this draft is loaded out the rear with guys in the first four rounds who are going to be exceptional NFL players and over a half dozen guys who would be murder in the slot. Even good outside receivers who would allow Decker to get inside and do magic as well. NO WAY TO A WR IN FA.

The only thing we need to do is not sign Matt Willis and kick Caldwells ass to the curb.

broncosteven
02-28-2013, 01:43 PM
No sense to pay a WR big bucks in FA when this draft is loaded out the rear with guys in the first four rounds who are going to be exceptional NFL players and over a half dozen guys who would be murder in the slot. Even good outside receivers who would allow Decker to get inside and do magic as well. NO WAY TO A WR IN FA.

The only thing we need to do is not sign Matt Willis and kick Caldwells ass to the curb.

Willis can play ST's Is he up for a new contract? If not keep him, I agree with kicking Caldwell to the curb.

I don't want to see them pay Welker 8-10Mil but Amendola might come cheaper because of his injury history. The dude can ball. If we cut Caldwell, signed Amendola and then picked up a WR you like later then it is all good.

Requiem
02-28-2013, 01:53 PM
Willis can play ST's Is he up for a new contract? If not keep him, I agree with kicking Caldwell to the curb.

I don't want to see them pay Welker 8-10Mil but Amendola might come cheaper because of his injury history. The dude can ball. If we cut Caldwell, signed Amendola and then picked up a WR you like later then it is all good.

I guess you can keep Willis for ST. We have some PS guys who I think have more NFL potential than he does.

Demaryius, Decker, Stokely, ROOKIE, Willis/FA/PS guy.

I think we are gonna get another WR in the top 4 rounds. Sure hope we do. Great draft to do so. I think at least 15 will get drafted by round 4.

TonyR
03-01-2013, 11:39 AM
Atlanta released RB Michael Turner, DE John Abraham, and CB Dunta Robinson.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9002220/michael-turner-john-abraham-dunta-robinson-released-atlanta-falcons