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broncosteven
08-17-2012, 03:50 PM
His years in Miami were good (not great). *shrug*

I think teams catching on to the Wildcat hurt his effectiveness as well. And don't forget that Ricky Williams guy he was splitting carries with. I'd like to see what he can do in Norv's offense before I write him off.

He's a proven RB who is now a backup and will have to carry the load for a couple of games (possibly). What's the big deal? Not that this is a winning team anyway.

Fixed it for you

Tombstone RJ
08-17-2012, 03:55 PM
Brown will bust off 2k in Norv's system... :)

broncosteven
08-17-2012, 04:00 PM
Brown will bust off 2k in Norv's system... :)

and miss the playoffs.

boltaneer
08-17-2012, 05:22 PM
Your right he was very average. His 1 1000 yd season was it. He has been very Slowshon Moreno like.

I guess DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart are very average as well.

DBroncos4life
08-17-2012, 05:56 PM
I guess DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart are very average as well.

They might not be but you can make a pretty good case that their careers have been in respect to the talent they have.

boltaneer
08-17-2012, 06:10 PM
They might not be but you can make a pretty good case that their careers have been in respect to the talent they have.

Why? They're very good players. Maybe a little injury prone but otherwise, they're arguably the greatest RB duo on the league.

DENVERDUI55
08-17-2012, 06:16 PM
I guess DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart are very average as well.

They are a lot better than brown. Wiliams has done 1500 yds and 15 TD s while Stewart has rushed for more than Brown as a backup. You can decide for yourself. Brown has never been close to his draft status and been below average last 2 to 4 years.

DBroncos4life
08-17-2012, 06:57 PM
Why? They're very good players. Maybe a little injury prone but otherwise, they're arguably the greatest RB duo on the league.

You don't think that if they had been on separate teams each would be putting up way highernnumbers? I don't think their career numbers match their abilities at all.

SouthStndJunkie
08-18-2012, 01:32 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/17/tommy-kelly-on-kevin-kolb-that-boys-scared/

Tommy Kelly on Kevin Kolb: “That boy’s scared”

SouthStndJunkie
08-18-2012, 01:36 AM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/conversations/_/id/8278886/nfl-require-ejected-fans-take-online-fan-conduct-course

NFL gets serious about fan conduct

boltaneer
08-18-2012, 03:27 AM
You don't think that if they had been on separate teams each would be putting up way highernnumbers? I don't think their career numbers match their abilities at all.

That was exactly my point.

Think about it.

SouthStndJunkie
08-18-2012, 12:48 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/18/levi-brown-has-torn-triceps-team-awaits-mri-results/

Levi Brown has torn triceps, Arizona awaits MRI results

SouthStndJunkie
08-18-2012, 10:01 PM
At my fantasy football draft tonight, I talked to a bud who is involved with Toledo's football program.

He told me that the Broncos told Eric Page that they would be bringing him back next year to give him another opportunity.

They were pleased with what they saw from him in the OTAs and the mini-camps and were pretty bummed out when he blew out his ACL right before training camp.

I'm still pissed about that....nobody has stood out in these preseason games and come close to claiming the return job as theirs....Eric Page would have made some plays in the return game and locked a roster spot down.

Page doesn't have speed to burn and he depends on his lateral movement to make plays, so I'm hoping the knee injury doesn't rob him of that fraction of a second of speed and special lateral movement he needs to have a chance in the NFL.

Now it's time for someone else to step up and make some plays in the return game to help us this season.

SouthStndJunkie
08-19-2012, 01:48 AM
49ers running back Brandon Jacobs suffered what at first appeared to be a severe left knee injury in Saturday night’s preseason game against the Texans. ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports that his X-rays came back negative, though, and Jacobs is scheduled for an MRI on Sunday.

Coach Jim Harbaugh explained in his post-game press conference that Jacobs’ ACL and patellar tendon are intact, which is a very promising thing. While Harbaugh conceded that Jacobs will miss time, he said the injury is “not [of] the you-don’t-come-back-from variety.”

SouthStndJunkie
08-19-2012, 05:08 PM
San Diego Chargers wide receiver Vincent Brown will be out at least eight weeks with a broken left ankle, a source told ESPN.com's John Clayton.

lonestar
08-19-2012, 07:32 PM
San Diego Chargers wide receiver Vincent Brown will be out at least eight weeks with a broken left ankle, a source told ESPN.com's John Clayton.

glad we play them in game 6, Hell might not be in game shape in week 11 or one could hope..

Boltjolt
08-19-2012, 11:52 PM
I guess DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart are very average as well.

Ronnie Brown isnt what he was. I hope he can be effective but it will be a RB by committie for about 4 games. Brown doesnt have near the explosiveness of Mathews.

Mathews getting dinged too often is a concern because he is just nails when he is able to play and he was in great shape and ready to go.

Losing Vincent Brown is going to sting too. Just hope Royal can stay healthy.

Boltjolt
08-19-2012, 11:54 PM
glad we play them in game 6, Hell might not be in game shape in week 11 or one could hope..

Hoping Mathews is ready to go by then and do his usual 120+ against you ;)

lonestar
08-20-2012, 12:12 AM
Hoping Mathews is ready to go by then and do his usual 120+ against you ;)

You might not have noticed but we have a REAL DC now, who is dedicated to stopping the run.. acquired several for lack of a better term Biggies to play on the DL something this franchise has never done.. Save the browncos what a cluster **** that was..

I guess we will see if y'all can run on us..

lonestar
08-20-2012, 12:15 AM
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SouthStndJunkie
08-20-2012, 09:48 AM
The Tennessee Titans reportedly will start quarterback Jake Locker in their Sept. 9 season opener against the New England Patriots.

bronco militia
08-20-2012, 10:22 AM
The Tennessee Titans reportedly will start quarterback Jake Locker in their Sept. 9 season opener against the New England Patriots.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/zjnZXSFOXCw/0.jpg

broncocalijohn
08-20-2012, 10:27 AM
Merriman has been cut by the Bills.

SouthStndJunkie
08-20-2012, 04:52 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/ndamukong-suh-says-his-stomp-was-not-intentional/

Ndamukong Suh says his stomp was not intentional

SouthStndJunkie
08-20-2012, 04:52 PM
I like Ndamukong Suh and think he is a heck of a player....but enough of saying the stomp wasn't intentional.

Tell the truth....you lost you cool for a moment and stomped on someone.

You make yourself look like a liar....and a dumb one at that by saying you didn't mean to stomp on that dude.

BroncoBuff
08-20-2012, 06:40 PM
Jake Locker named Titans' starter

Ryan Tannehill Dolphins' starter

errand
08-20-2012, 06:51 PM
Michael Vick left game early (injured) vs Pats...imagine my shock.

cutthemdown
08-20-2012, 06:54 PM
Vick may have a broken rib or something. Not good for Eagles.

rmsanger
08-20-2012, 07:04 PM
lol (terrible I know) but these douches just can't keep their mouths shut long enough to make a play on the field.

This is why you don't do FF drafts until near the end of PS.

vancejohnson82
08-20-2012, 07:07 PM
lol (terrible I know) but these douches just can't keep their mouths shut long enough to make a play on the field.

This is why you don't do FF drafts until near the end of PS.

its exactly what I was telling all my idiot friends last night.....my co-commissioner would rather do the early draft in person than have the later date draft online....

in poetic justice he ended up grabbing vick

SouthStndJunkie
08-20-2012, 08:44 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/saints-acquire-barrett-ruud-from-seahawks/

Saints acquire Barrett Ruud from Seahawks

DBroncos4life
08-20-2012, 09:00 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/saints-acquire-barrett-ruud-from-seahawks/

Saints acquire Barrett Ruud from Seahawks

Didn't they pick every LB up in the off-season as well?

dbfan21
08-22-2012, 11:56 AM
Shaun Smith released by Titans. I wonder if he could help with depth in Denver.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp12/story/_/id/8292290/tennessee-titans-deep-dt-spot-release-veteran-shaun-smith

Bmore Manning
08-22-2012, 12:03 PM
Shaun Smith released by Titans. I wonder if he could help with depth in Denver.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp12/story/_/id/8292290/tennessee-titans-deep-dt-spot-release-veteran-shaun-smith

I mentioned that a few hours ago, very interesting.. He's apparently just a cap casualty. If they want a veteran NT good in run support, Smith could be your guy.

SouthStndJunkie
08-22-2012, 01:23 PM
Dallas Cowboys doctors informed tight end Jason Witten he will not need surgery on his spleen that would have ended his season, according to a source familiar with the situation.

cmhargrove
08-22-2012, 02:04 PM
Dallas Cowboys doctors informed tight end Jason Witten he will not need surgery on his spleen that would have ended his season, according to a source familiar with the situation.

Yes Mr. Witten, as your doctor I would like to inform you that you will be just fine to play this season. If your spleen erupts, hopefully it will do so while scoring the winning touchdown in the Superbowl. Go get 'em pal!

Sincerely,
Dr. Jerry Jones

broncosteven
08-22-2012, 04:40 PM
Yes Mr. Witten, as your doctor I would like to inform you that you will be just fine to play this season. If your spleen erupts, hopefully it will do so while scoring the winning touchdown in the Superbowl. Go get 'em pal!

Sincerely,
Dr. Jerry Jones

I was thinking the same thing. I hope he gets it checked out by a non team Dr.

Drunken.Broncoholic
08-24-2012, 06:45 PM
Cutler to Marshall... Looks as crisp as ever.

oubronco
08-24-2012, 06:55 PM
Cutler to Marshall... Looks as crisp as ever.

It was a sweet pass

Drunken.Broncoholic
08-24-2012, 06:55 PM
These refs are ridiculous. Giants bears they run a play after time of 1st quarter ended. You do not run a play after time has run out on a defensive penalty in the first quarter. That is only for a half. Also in another game a punt was downed at the 4 yard line. They bring it out to the 20. Then they have to review their stupidity and realize it was downed at the 4! Games will be blown by the incompetent refs.

As we saw last broncos game they also like to swallow the flags for fear they make a mistake. Their assumption is if it's not called it won't get scrutinized.

DBroncos4life
08-24-2012, 08:23 PM
http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=8300889

The packers cut Hargrove.

DENVERDUI55
08-24-2012, 08:29 PM
Cutler to Marshall... Looks as crisp as ever.

Looked like crap rest of the night though.

broncosteven
08-24-2012, 08:54 PM
Looked like crap rest of the night though.

Cutler looked bad outside that one pass and if the Safety reads it and reacts that should have been an INT.

SouthStndJunkie
08-24-2012, 09:09 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/24/bucs-fear-davin-joseph-will-miss-entire-season/

Bucs fear Davin Joseph will miss entire season

SouthStndJunkie
08-25-2012, 11:00 AM
The Colts and Redskins play today at 4 pm (Eastern Time) on NFL Network.

Luck versus RG III....about as intriguing as it gets for a preseason game.

TheReverend
08-25-2012, 11:11 AM
The Colts and Redskins play today at 4 pm (Eastern Time) on NFL Network.

Luck versus RG III....about as intriguing as it gets for a preseason game.

I'm so in for this one.

...Especially after Luck's backhanded comments at Giff's endorsement endeavors.

Gort
08-25-2012, 11:57 AM
Cutler looked bad outside that one pass and if the Safety reads it and reacts that should have been an INT.

i'm so glad he's Chicago's problem. the guy is not a winner. i wonder who he threw under the bus in the postgame interview after yesterday's game. obviously somebody else is to blame for his lousy performance.

:~ohyah!:

SouthStndJunkie
08-25-2012, 01:23 PM
Jacksonville rookie WR Justin Blackmon looks like he is going to be a stud....as long as he doesn't get popped for any more DUIs.

Jacksonville has needed a weapon like him at the WR position for some time.

ozomulsion
08-25-2012, 01:34 PM
Jacksonville rookie WR Justin Blackmon looks like he is going to be a stud....as long as he doesn't get popped for any more DUIs.

Jacksonville has needed a weapon like him at the WR position for some time.

He looks like he'll be absolutly dominant for years to come. He came in right after his holdout, and didn't miss a beat. The DUI was a surprise to me and the rest of the Poke alum.

SouthStndJunkie
08-25-2012, 04:21 PM
I think Reggie Wayne has another 80 reception 1,000+ yard and 8+TD season or two in him with Andrew Luck slinging him the rock.

DENVERDUI55
08-25-2012, 04:31 PM
I think Reggie Wayne has another 80 reception 1,000+ yard and 8+TD season or two in him with Andrew Luck slinging him the rock.

I am thinking the same. I think he will be a good fantasy player this year just like how I got Steve Smith last year late.

SouthStndJunkie
08-25-2012, 06:05 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/25/david-decastro-isaac-redman-out-early-for-the-steelers/

David DeCastro carted off early for the Steelers

oubronco
08-25-2012, 06:46 PM
Man this Saints texans game is pretty entertaining

extralife
08-25-2012, 07:13 PM
50 year old Roger Clemens pitched tonight for the Sugar Land Skeeters of the Atlantic League.

Sounds like his fastball topped out at 88 mph.

His line from the game was very solid:

3 1/3 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K, 37 pitches.

I didn't know the sugar land skeeters were an NFL team

SouthStndJunkie
08-25-2012, 07:14 PM
I didn't know the sugar land skeeters were an NFL team

I deleted the post when I realized it was in the wrong thread, but you replied in about 10 seconds.

SouthStndJunkie
08-25-2012, 07:19 PM
Texans rookie WR Keshawn Martin (Michigan State) is going to have to learn to secure the ball a lot better in the NFL....he's lost 2 fumbles in the first half tonight against the Saints.

DENVERDUI55
08-25-2012, 08:01 PM
Couple more INT's for pick 6 Palmer.

SouthStndJunkie
08-25-2012, 10:21 PM
It was nice to see Terrelle Pryor play well for Oakland tonight.

Kid has done nothing but keep quiet and work hard since he has gotten into the NFL.

3/5 tonight for 137 yards passing with 2 TDs and 0 INTs.

5 carries for 90 yards rushing and a TD on the ground.

At Ohio State, I was always in awe of his deceptive speed....dude is about 6'5 and 230 pounds and runs a 4.38 in the 40.

He looks like is not running fast, but that long stride of his eats up yards.

It's weird, I dislike Ohio State and dislike the Raiders, but I'd like to see the kid do well and have a nice NFL career.

If it isn't as a QB, I strongly believe he could be red zone weapon as a WR or a TE.

SouthStndJunkie
08-26-2012, 12:08 PM
Pittsburgh Steelers right guard David DeCastro dislocated his knee cap, tore his medial collateral ligament and suffered some damage to his patellar tendon. But his anterior cruciate ligament is intact, according to sources.

The team is unsure if the 2012 first-round draft pick will be able to return this season after receiving the results of his MRI on Sunday.

SouthStndJunkie
08-26-2012, 12:10 PM
The Baltimore Ravens released former Pro Bowl kicker Billy Cundiff Sunday morning, a league source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

SouthStndJunkie
08-26-2012, 12:13 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/26/terrell-owens-tweets-that-hes-been-released-by-seahawks/

Terrell Owens tweets that he’s been released by Seahawks

Bacchus
08-26-2012, 12:13 PM
Texans vs Saints 24 - 24 at halftime. Wow, must have been an exciting game.

SouthStndJunkie
08-26-2012, 12:24 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/26/dolphins-trade-vontae-davis-to-colts-for-second-round-pick/

Dolphins trade Vontae Davis to Colts for second-round pick

SouthStndJunkie
08-26-2012, 04:51 PM
Looks like Seattle is close to trading Tarvaris Jackson to the Buffalo Bills.

SouthStndJunkie
08-26-2012, 05:33 PM
Carolina and the New York Jets on tonight at 8 PM (Eastern Time) on NBC.

SouthStndJunkie
08-26-2012, 08:16 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/26/seahawks-name-russell-wilson-starting-quarterback/

Seahawks name Russell Wilson their starting quarterback

broncosteven
08-26-2012, 08:39 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/26/seahawks-name-russell-wilson-starting-quarterback/

Seahawks name Russell Wilson their starting quarterback

Meanwhile Flynn gets to cash those checks.

errand
08-26-2012, 08:45 PM
Jets still haven't scored a TD yet....unbelievable

Kaylore
08-26-2012, 10:09 PM
Meanwhile Flynn gets to cash those checks.

That's a great gig, backup QB on a starter's contract, if you can get it.

oubronco
08-27-2012, 07:48 AM
Patriots | Donte' Stallworth released (http://www.kffl.com/hotw/gnews.php?id=806288-patriots-donte'-stallworth-released)
Mon, 27 Aug 2012 06:26:24 -0700
The New England Patriots (http://www.kffl.com/team/24/nfl/new-england-patriots) have released WR Donte' Stallworth (http://www.kffl.com/player/1261/nfl/donte-stallworth), according to a source.

Redskins | Neil Rackers released (http://www.kffl.com/hotw/gnews.php?id=806283-redskins-neil-rackers-released)
Mon, 27 Aug 2012 06:13:11 -0700
The Washington Redskins (http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl/washington-redskins) released PK Neil Rackers (http://www.kffl.com/player/389/nfl/neil-rackers) Monday, Aug. 27, according to a league source.

Bills | Eight cut (http://www.kffl.com/hotw/gnews.php?id=806230-bills-eight-cut)
Sun, 26 Aug 2012 22:32:03 -0700
The Buffalo Bills (http://www.kffl.com/team/9/nfl/buffalo-bills) waived WR David Clowney (http://www.kffl.com/player/16100/nfl/david-clowney), RB Rodney Ferguson (http://www.kffl.com/player/21121/nfl/rodney-ferguson), CB Prince Miller (http://www.kffl.com/player/23393/nfl/prince-miller), TE Fendi Onobun (http://www.kffl.com/player/23066/nfl/fendi-onobun), DL Jay Ross (http://www.kffl.com/player/22623/nfl/jay-ross), WR Derek Session (http://www.kffl.com/player/26940/nfl/derek-session), FS Nick Sukay (http://www.kffl.com/player/26656/nfl/nick-sukay) and OG Jake Vermiglio (http://www.kffl.com/player/25178/nfl/jake-vermiglio) Sunday, Aug. 26.

oubronco
08-27-2012, 07:51 AM
Steelers | Release 15 players (http://www.kffl.com/hotw/gnews.php?id=806292-steelers-release-15-players)
Mon, 27 Aug 2012 06:46:11 -0700
The Pittsburgh Steelers (http://www.kffl.com/team/30/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers) announced Monday, Aug. 27, they have released LB Ryan Baker (http://www.kffl.com/player/21191/nfl/ryan-baker), DT Mike Blanc (http://www.kffl.com/player/24495/nfl/mike-blanc), WR Paul Cox (http://www.kffl.com/player/26721/nfl/paul-cox), CB Andre Freeman (http://www.kffl.com/player/26923/nfl/andre-freeman), PK Daniel Hrapmann, LB Mortty Ivy (http://www.kffl.com/player/21068/nfl/mortty-ivy), OL Kyle Jolly (http://www.kffl.com/player/22679/nfl/kyle-jolly), LS Matt Katula (http://www.kffl.com/player/12404/nfl/matt-katula), TE Jamie McCoy (http://www.kffl.com/player/22874/nfl/jamie-mccoy), CB Walter McFadden (http://www.kffl.com/player/23063/nfl/walter-mcfadden), TE Justin Peelle (http://www.kffl.com/player/1662/nfl/justin-peelle), FS Myron Rolle (http://www.kffl.com/player/22471/nfl/myron-rolle), WR Juamorris Stewart (http://www.kffl.com/player/23025/nfl/juamorris-stewart), DT Kade Weston (http://www.kffl.com/player/22506/nfl/kade-weston) and WR Jimmy Young (http://www.kffl.com/player/24525/nfl/jimmy-young).


Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz24kptHtPT

oubronco
08-27-2012, 07:55 AM
The Colts announced they waived 11 players Sunday, trimming their roster ahead of Monday's roster-cut deadline.

Indianapolis waived CB Cameron Chism, CB Antonio Fenelus, CB Terrence Johnson, CB Chris Rucker, S Matt Merletti, S David Caldwell, LB Mike Balogun, WR Quan Cosby, RB Alvester Alexander, OG Jason Foster and P Brian Stahovich.

oubronco
08-27-2012, 07:57 AM
The Chiefs have released 14 players ahead of the NFL's deadline to reach the 75-man roster limit, including former Kansas tight end Tim Biere.

Other players released by the Chiefs were fullback Shane Bannon; defensive backs Dominique Ellis and Jean Fanor; linebackers Caleb Campbell and Dexter Heyman; offensive linemen Justin Cheadle and Cam Holland; defensive end Ethan Johnson; kicker Matt Szymanski; and wide receivers Jeremy Horne, Brandon Kinnie, Zeke Markshausen and Aaron Weaver.

oubronco
08-27-2012, 07:58 AM
Tennessee released the following 11 players: QB Nick Stephens, RB Herb Donaldson, TE Joey Haynos, WR Laquinton Evans, WR Chase Deadder, WR Marcus Harris, OL William Vlachos, OL George Bias, OL Jonathan Palmer, S Christian Scott and PK William Batson.

oubronco
08-27-2012, 08:00 AM
The Bears terminated the contract of veteran DT John McCargo and waived/injured LB Adrien Cole and OG Nick Pieschel. LB K.C. Asiodu, QB Matt Blanchard, S Trevor Coston, WR Terriun Crump, WR Chris Summers and DE Derek Walker were also waived.

oubronco
08-27-2012, 08:02 AM
The Eagles released WR Elvis Akpla, S Wade Bonner, DE Xavier Brown, WR Brian Hernandez, WR McKay Jacobson, WR Tiger Jones, OG Alfred McCullough, S Tom Nelson, CB Kevin Thomas and OT Thomas Welch.

oubronco
08-27-2012, 08:45 AM
The Cowboys released OT Levy Adcock, P Delbert Alvarado, TE Harry Flaherty, WR David Little, OT Tyrone Novikoff, WR Raymond Radway, RB Javarris Williams and CB C.J. Wilson. The team also waived/injured WR Donavon Kemp and LB Caleb McSurdy.

oubronco
08-27-2012, 08:46 AM
According to various media reports Monday, the Patriots have released several notable veterans.

ProFootballTalk.com says the Patriots have cut veteran WR Donte’ Stallworth, other sources say that the team has cut veteran DL Tim Bulman and the Boston Globe reports that DL Gerard Warren, S Josh Barrett and S Ross Ventrone have been let go. The team will be officially announcing its cuts Monday.

oubronco
08-27-2012, 08:49 AM
Ravens | Announce roster moves (http://www.kffl.com/hotw/gnews.php?id=806296-ravens-announce-roster-moves)
Mon, 27 Aug 2012 07:22:50 -0700
The Baltimore Ravens (http://www.kffl.com/team/8/nfl/baltimore-ravens) announced Monday, Aug. 27, they have placed LB Steve Baggs (http://www.kffl.com/player/9744/nfl/steve-baggs) (leg), LB Darryl Blackstock (http://www.kffl.com/player/11276/nfl/darryl-blackstock) (leg), SS Emanuel Cook (http://www.kffl.com/player/20845/nfl/emanuel-cook) (leg) and DT Ryan McBean (http://www.kffl.com/player/16114/nfl/ryan-mcbean) (ankle) on Injured Reserve. They have also placed WR David Reed (http://www.kffl.com/player/22729/nfl/david-reed) (knee) and LB Terrell Suggs (http://www.kffl.com/player/5951/nfl/terrell-suggs) (Achilles') on the Physically Unable to Perform list.


Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz24l4WwFrx

oubronco
08-27-2012, 08:55 AM
Bills | Vince Young released (http://www.kffl.com/hotw/gnews.php?id=806300-bills-vince-young-released)
Mon, 27 Aug 2012 07:51:00 -0700
Buffalo Bills (http://www.kffl.com/team/9/nfl/buffalo-bills) QB Vince Young (http://www.kffl.com/player/13206/nfl/vince-young) said via Twitter that he has been released by the team.


Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz24l5z9DW6

Tombstone RJ
08-27-2012, 08:57 AM
VY released by the Bills, didn't the Bills also pick up Tavaras Jackson too?

oubronco
08-27-2012, 08:58 AM
Bills | Tarvaris Jackson deal complete (http://www.kffl.com/hotw/gnews.php?id=806301-bills-tarvaris-jackson-deal-complete)
Mon, 27 Aug 2012 07:54:28 -0700
The Buffalo Bills (http://www.kffl.com/team/9/nfl/buffalo-bills) have reached an agreement with QB Tarvaris Jackson (http://www.kffl.com/player/13686/nfl/tarvaris-jackson), according to a person familiar with the deal. The person said a deal to restructure the final year of Jackson's contract was reached early Monday, Aug. 27, and that the quarterback was already traveling to Buffalo.


Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz24l6nBW5q

oubronco
08-27-2012, 09:10 AM
Raiders | Make roster moves (http://www.kffl.com/hotw/gnews.php?id=806303-raiders-make-roster-moves)
Mon, 27 Aug 2012 08:02:13 -0700
The Oakland Raiders (http://www.kffl.com/team/28/nfl/oakland-raiders) have waived LB Korey Bosworth (http://www.kffl.com/player/23259/nfl/korey-bosworth), DE Wayne Dorsey, DE Mason Brodine (http://www.kffl.com/player/25121/nfl/mason-brodine), S Aaron Henry (http://www.kffl.com/player/26229/nfl/aaron-henry), S Chaz Powell, WR Thomas Mayo (http://www.kffl.com/player/26053/nfl/thomas-mayo), WR Dre Muhammad (http://www.kffl.com/player/27187/nfl/dre-muhammad), CB Terrail Lambert (http://www.kffl.com/player/21365/nfl/terrail-lambert), QB Kyle Newhall-Caballero, FB Manase Tonga (http://www.kffl.com/player/22605/nfl/manase-tonga), FB Rashawn Jackson (http://www.kffl.com/player/22465/nfl/rashawn-jackson) and OL Ed Wang (http://www.kffl.com/player/22545/nfl/ed-wang).


Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz24l9bXcfW

Tombstone RJ
08-27-2012, 09:13 AM
who doesn't need an Ed Wang on their team? I'm baffled by this move, everyone needs a little Ed Wang Chung tonight...

Beantown Bronco
08-27-2012, 09:23 AM
who doesn't need an Ed Wang on their team? I'm baffled by this move, everyone needs a little Ed Wang Chung tonight...

Put him next to Eugene Chung (ex Patriot 1st round bust at OLine) on the bench and you'd have your wish.

Requiem
08-27-2012, 09:28 AM
Don't even see one player worth bringing in from the trash heap cuts listed. Clowney, for speed and return reasons, but I'm guessing if he was cut that he sucks da big one. Always impressed me at VT.

Beantown Bronco
08-27-2012, 09:29 AM
Wow. Pats just extended TE Hernandez for more "real" money than Gronk got:

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/extra_points/2012/08/hernandez_locke.html

Tombstone RJ
08-27-2012, 09:29 AM
Put him next to Eugene Chung (ex Patriot 1st round bust at OLine) on the bench and you'd have your wish.

Brilliant! ^5

Tombstone RJ
08-27-2012, 09:32 AM
Don't even see one player worth bringing in from the trash heap cuts listed. Clowney, for speed and return reasons, but I'm guessing if he was cut that he sucks da big one. Always impressed me at VT.

These guys are the ones who obviously suck, or are the vets like VY. The better guys won't get cut until the final round of cuts. Philly didn't cut one of their RBs and I seriously doubt they keep all 4 RBs.

Requiem
08-27-2012, 09:36 AM
Before Stewart (Carolina) got hurt, I was hoping maybe they'd cut one of their other backs so we could get them. Philly and Carolina have the goods at RB.

oubronco
08-27-2012, 09:36 AM
Patriots | Three players released (http://www.kffl.com/hotw/gnews.php?id=806306-patriots-three-players-released)
Mon, 27 Aug 2012 08:26:27 -0700
New England Patriots (http://www.kffl.com/team/24/nfl/new-england-patriots) DT Gerard Warren (http://www.kffl.com/player/441/nfl/gerard-warren), CB Ross Ventrone (http://www.kffl.com/player/23306/nfl/ross-ventrone) and FS Josh Barrett (http://www.kffl.com/player/18629/nfl/josh-barrett) have been released by the team.


Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz24lGStSJn

oubronco
08-27-2012, 09:47 AM
Wow. Pats just extended TE Hernandez for more "real" money than Gronk got:

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/extra_points/2012/08/hernandez_locke.html

Patriots | Aaron Hernandez contract details
Mon, 27 Aug 2012 08:35:17 -0700

New England Patriots TE Aaron Hernandez's five-year contract extension is worth $40 million with a $12.5 million signing bonus and $16.4 million guaranteed.


Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz24lIunx1C

Dendave
08-27-2012, 10:14 AM
The Detroit Lion released Kicker Derek Dimke, receivers Jarett Dillard and Terrence Toliver, fullback James Bryant, running back Stephfon Green, safety Sean Jones, guards Jacques McClendon and J.C. Oram, linebacker Slade Norris and defensive tackle Bobby Skinner

lonestar
08-27-2012, 10:19 AM
We all know that 24 other teams get to take players that are waived before we get to get them. So all the better cuts are going to wind up on NON playoff winning teams.

Just one more reason to lose that PIT playoff game instead of win it.

oubronco
08-27-2012, 10:32 AM
Saints | Make roster moves (http://www.kffl.com/hotw/gnews.php?id=806317-saints-make-roster-moves)
Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:23:42 -0700
The New Orleans Saints (http://www.kffl.com/team/25/nfl/new-orleans-saints) have released DT Remi Ayodele (http://www.kffl.com/player/14185/nfl/remi-ayodele), QB Luke McCown (http://www.kffl.com/player/9124/nfl/luke-mccown), TE Jake Byrne (http://www.kffl.com/player/26081/nfl/jake-byrne), WR Marques Clark (http://www.kffl.com/player/27180/nfl/marques-clark), OT Hutch Eckerson (http://www.kffl.com/player/27265/nfl/hutch-eckerson), OG Paul Fenaroli (http://www.kffl.com/player/25186/nfl/paul-fenaroli), C Brian Folkerts (http://www.kffl.com/player/26794/nfl/brian-folkerts), WR Kevin Hardy (http://www.kffl.com/player/513/nfl/kevin-hardy), CB Kamaal Mcllwain (http://www.kffl.com/player/27266/nfl/kamaal-mcllwain), DT Swanson Miller (http://www.kffl.com/player/23321/nfl/swanson-miller), WR Derek Moye (http://www.kffl.com/player/26037/nfl/derek-moye), CB Cord Parks (http://www.kffl.com/player/21291/nfl/cord-parks), DE Donavan Robinson (http://www.kffl.com/player/26716/nfl/donavan-robinson), LB Aaron Tevis (http://www.kffl.com/player/26802/nfl/aaron-tevis) and S Johnny Thomas (http://www.kffl.com/player/7011/nfl/johnny-thomas).


Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz24lUHlxSd

oubronco
08-27-2012, 10:32 AM
Giants | Waive 11 players (http://www.kffl.com/hotw/gnews.php?id=806313-giants-waive-11-players)
Mon, 27 Aug 2012 08:50:54 -0700
The New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/nfl/new-york-giants) have waived TE Ryan Purvis (http://www.kffl.com/player/20971/nfl/ryan-purvis), DT Carlton Powell (http://www.kffl.com/player/18753/nfl/carlton-powell), DB Chris Horton (http://www.kffl.com/player/18695/nfl/chris-horton), WR Julian Talley (http://www.kffl.com/player/26791/nfl/julian-talley), WR Brandon Collins (http://www.kffl.com/player/26900/nfl/brandon-collins), TE Chris Hopkins (http://www.kffl.com/player/19215/nfl/chris-hopkins), CB Brandon Bing (http://www.kffl.com/player/25145/nfl/brandon-bing), FS JoJo Nicolas (http://www.kffl.com/player/26345/nfl/jojo-nicolas), RB Joe Martinek (http://www.kffl.com/player/26461/nfl/joe-martinek), OT Joel Reinders (http://www.kffl.com/player/23322/nfl/joel-reinders) and DT Oren Wilson (http://www.kffl.com/player/27264/nfl/oren-wilson).


Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz24lURxwyR

oubronco
08-27-2012, 10:56 AM
Lions | Release 10 players (http://www.kffl.com/hotw/gnews.php?id=806328-lions-release-10-players)
Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:50:42 -0700
The Detroit Lions (http://www.kffl.com/team/16/nfl/detroit-lions) will release PK Derek Dimke (http://www.kffl.com/player/25816/nfl/derek-dimke), FB James Bryant (http://www.kffl.com/player/26899/nfl/james-bryant), WR Jarett Dillard (http://www.kffl.com/player/20836/nfl/jarett-dillard), RB Stephfon Green (http://www.kffl.com/player/26432/nfl/stephfon-green), SS Sean Jones (http://www.kffl.com/player/9183/nfl/sean-jones), OG Jacques McClendon (http://www.kffl.com/player/22938/nfl/jacques-mcclendon), LB Slade Norris (http://www.kffl.com/player/21147/nfl/slade-norris), OG J.C. Oram (http://www.kffl.com/player/26515/nfl/j.c.-oram), DT Bobby Skinner (http://www.kffl.com/player/27230/nfl/bobby-skinner) and WR Terrence Toliver (http://www.kffl.com/player/24235/nfl/terrence-toliver).


Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz24laVHpbP

Tombstone RJ
08-27-2012, 10:57 AM
Carlton Powell has been release but the Gmen...

Kaylore
08-27-2012, 11:04 AM
Carlton Powell has been release but the Gmen...

Ah, Carlton Powell.

cmhargrove
08-27-2012, 11:18 AM
Not sure why the Cowboys released Levy Adcock, but that kid can play. He would make a great #2 swing tackle if given a year on the practice squad.

Much, much better than the Tackles and Guards on our second team O-line. The kid can play, and i'm not sure if he has been fighting injuries or what.

Requiem
08-27-2012, 12:26 PM
We all know that 24 other teams get to take players that are waived before we get to get them. So all the better cuts are going to wind up on NON playoff winning teams.

Just one more reason to lose that PIT playoff game instead of win it.

Dumb.

bronco militia
08-27-2012, 12:30 PM
wat the fudge?

cmhargrove
08-27-2012, 01:15 PM
Not sure why the Cowboys released Levy Adcock, but that kid can play. He would make a great #2 swing tackle if given a year on the practice squad.

Much, much better than the Tackles and Guards on our second team O-line. The kid can play, and i'm not sure if he has been fighting injuries or what.

SouthStndJunkie
08-27-2012, 01:38 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/27/mike-wallace-to-sign-tender-report-to-steelers-on-tuesday/

Mike Wallace to sign tender, report to Steelers on Tuesday

menonite
08-27-2012, 01:51 PM
Not sure why the Cowboys released Levy Adcock,

Is that what Chasity Bono is calling herself these days?

Requiem
08-27-2012, 01:54 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/27/mike-wallace-to-sign-tender-report-to-steelers-on-tuesday/

Mike Wallace to sign tender, report to Steelers on Tuesday

Because he's getting traded to the Miami Dolphins. :~ohyah!:

Bob's your Information Minister
08-27-2012, 03:17 PM
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/191071_448847605138156_628367814_o.jpg

bronco militia
08-27-2012, 03:18 PM
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/191071_448847605138156_628367814_o.jpg

POW POW!! :rofl:

SouthStndJunkie
08-27-2012, 08:02 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/27/jets-send-wayne-hunter-to-st-louis-for-jason-smith/

Jets send Wayne Hunter to St. Louis for Jason Smith

Tim
08-27-2012, 08:09 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/27/jets-send-wayne-hunter-to-st-louis-for-jason-smith/

Jets send Wayne Hunter to St. Louis for Jason Smith

that is a ryan leaf caliber bust.

bowtown
08-28-2012, 05:57 AM
We all know that 24 other teams get to take players that are waived before we get to get them. So all the better cuts are going to wind up on NON playoff winning teams.

Just one more reason to lose that PIT playoff game instead of win it.

You do understand that not all players pass through waivers, right?

SouthStndJunkie
08-28-2012, 12:37 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/redskins-release-chris-cooley/

Redskins release Chris Cooley

cmhargrove
08-28-2012, 12:39 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/redskins-release-chris-cooley/

Redskins release Chris Cooley

Insert gratuitous pic of Cooley's weenie here. Or don't.

2KBack
08-28-2012, 12:42 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/redskins-release-chris-cooley/

Redskins release Chris Cooley

Wow, I've always liked his game. One of the few Redskins I could stand

uplink
08-28-2012, 01:22 PM
speculation Lions may inquire about trade for Knowshon Moreno

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/report-lions-trying-to-trade-for-running-back/

Beantown Bronco
08-28-2012, 01:32 PM
speculation Lions may inquire about trade for Knowshon Moreno

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/report-lions-trying-to-trade-for-running-back/

Straight up for one of those young first round DLinemen. We might have to throw in a 6th to even it up, but I think we should do it. :)

lolcopter
08-28-2012, 01:35 PM
Straight up for one of those young first round DLinemen. We might have to throw in a 6th to even it up, but I think we should do it. :)

wtf u can't be serious

broncosteven
08-28-2012, 01:50 PM
speculation Lions may inquire about trade for Knowshon Moreno

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/report-lions-trying-to-trade-for-running-back/

Like trading for KM is going to solve their issues...

...wait! Yes Detroit Lions KM is the Answer to any question your asking just give us a low round pick and he will surely break off 2K...er 1K...mmmm maybe .900K in your system.

If nothing else all your Exercycles will get a full work out.

bronco militia
08-28-2012, 02:02 PM
Like trading for KM is going to solve their issues...

...wait! Yes Detroit Lions KM is the Answer to any question your asking just give us a low round pick and he will surely break off 2K...er 1K...mmmm maybe .900K in your system.

If nothing else all your Exercycles will get a full work out.

shhhhhhhhhhhhh! put on your poker face!! The Lions GM might be lurking!

Jekyll15Hyde
08-28-2012, 07:47 PM
Surprised there isnt more talk in here about Cooley. We have several TE already but with Jthomas not panning out, green about to suspended, and you know we will carry at least 3 guys...

cmhargrove
08-28-2012, 08:36 PM
Surprised there isnt more talk in here about Cooley. We have several TE already but with Jthomas not panning out, green about to suspended, and you know we will carry at least 3 guys...

Now we all know Shanahan loves a good pass catching TE and he has a young, inexperienced QB that needs short range targets. So why is Shanny dumping him? I think his injuries are mounting and he isn't what he used to be.

uplink
08-28-2012, 09:50 PM
So why is Shanny dumping him?

Maybe he doesn't measure up

Jekyll15Hyde
08-28-2012, 10:18 PM
Now we all know Shanahan loves a good pass catching TE and he has a young, inexperienced QB that needs short range targets. So why is Shanny dumping him? I think his injuries are mounting and he isn't what he used to be.

This article seems to indicate that this the classic veteran 1st cut to let him catch on somewhere else.

"Coach Mike Shanahan said the decision came down to a matter of playing time. Fred Davis, who had a breakout year in 2011, has emerged as the new starting tight end, relegating Cooley to utility duty as a backup at both fullback and tight end during preseason.
"He wants to start. He wants to play," Shanahan said. "And we'll see if he gets that opportunity.... Shanahan said Cooley's release wasn't about health or money.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8310808/washington-redskins-release-tight-end-chris-cooley

He was hurt a lot last year so I am not saying that isnt involved here. But if this is to be believed, then we should have a look. He can be our starting FB all day and, if healthy, pushes Tamme and Dreesen as a #1 TE as well

lolcopter
08-28-2012, 11:14 PM
Surprised there isnt more talk in here about Cooley. We have several TE already but with Jthomas not panning out, green about to suspended, and you know we will carry at least 3 guys...

He sucks and he is injured often

. He can be our starting FB all day and, if healthy, pushes Tamme and Dreesen as a #1 TE as well

lol no

SoCalBronco
08-28-2012, 11:16 PM
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/191071_448847605138156_628367814_o.jpg

:rofl:

Poor Bob, he's going through his own version of the McD era with Pioli over there.

colorado jones
08-28-2012, 11:33 PM
We all know that 24 other teams get to take players that are waived before we get to get them. So all the better cuts are going to wind up on NON playoff winning teams.

Just one more reason to lose that PIT playoff game instead of win it.

Are you part of the South Korean badminton team?

Jekyll15Hyde
08-28-2012, 11:38 PM
He sucks and he is injured often

Really? 2x Pro Bowl, 1x All Pro and in 5 of the past 7 years he has hauled in ~70-80 rec for 700-800 yards, all with nothing to speak of at QB. You and I must have different definitions of 'he sucks.' You dont think a QB like PFM who loves the TE could use him?

Now the 2 times he didnt hit those numbers, he was injured so I buy the injury concern. BUT, If the report is true that his release wasnt about injury, and that is a big if, then absolutely he can compete with Tamme and Dressen, neither of whom have had a pro bowl year yet.

ZONA
08-28-2012, 11:41 PM
We all know that 24 other teams get to take players that are waived before we get to get them. So all the better cuts are going to wind up on NON playoff winning teams.

Just one more reason to lose that PIT playoff game instead of win it.

Hard to tell if you are joking or not. I don't think you are being serious. What Broncos fan, or any fan for that matter, hopes his team loses a playoff game, or any game for that matter. The ONLY game you could even think about wishing to lose is if you were 1-13 or something and a loss would give your the 1st overall pick and somebody like Andrew Luck was sitting there waiting for you. But you're talking about losing a playoff game. That's insane dude. The only way you get one of these......
http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2010_01_25__06_43_59/VinceLombardi_Trophy_Prime_New.jpgcb1fb91d-a873-46be-8b77-44a3a84f026fSmall.jpg
.......is to WIN playoff games to reach the Superbowl. Cmon dude.

lolcopter
08-29-2012, 06:33 AM
Really? 2x Pro Bowl, 1x All Pro and in 5 of the past 7 years he has hauled in ~70-80 rec for 700-800 yards, all with nothing to speak of at QB. You and I must have different definitions of 'he sucks.' You dont think a QB like PFM who loves the TE could use him?

Now the 2 times he didnt hit those numbers, he was injured so I buy the injury concern. BUT, If the report is true that his release wasnt about injury, and that is a big if, then absolutely he can compete with Tamme and Dressen, neither of whom have had a pro bowl year yet.

Yeah all pro 7 YEARS AGO, and pro bowl is 07/08... big whoop

2KBack
08-29-2012, 07:09 AM
Yeah all pro 7 YEARS AGO, and pro bowl is 07/08... big whoop

Hey Smart guy, you do realize that he actually had an arguably better year in 2010 than in his last pro-bowl year, just didn't win the annual popularity contest. Beyond being a complete tight-end, he is considered a fantastic leader, teammate, and is incredible with the fans.

Educate yourself on a player before you make such in-depth analysis as "He sucks"

lolcopter
08-29-2012, 07:23 AM
Hey Smart guy, you do realize that he actually had an arguably better year in 2010 than in his last pro-bowl year, just didn't win the annual popularity contest. Beyond being a complete tight-end, he is considered a fantastic leader, teammate, and is incredible with the fans.

Educate yourself on a player before you make such in-depth analysis as "He sucks"

Sure thing bud. You left out that he only played 7 games in 09 and 5 games in 2011. 6 TDs in the last 4 years WOW(!)

Too old, too expensive, and not needed



And he also sucks

2KBack
08-29-2012, 07:37 AM
Sure thing bud. You left out that he only played 7 games in 09 and 5 games in 2011. 6 TDs in the last 4 years WOW(!)

Too old, too expensive, and not needed



And he also sucks

Too expensive? He doesn't have a freakin contract!

Too old? Aren't you the guy you freaked out about getting MJD because we are in win now mode? Because we have an All-pro QB who is Old, expensive, and was injured all of last year? Cooley is better than Tamme right now, Who has 5 CAREER TD's by the way. Dreesseen and Cooley are the same age and Dreesseen has never shown half the ability of Cooley.

Now....do you happen to have a rebuttal that involves facts or analysis?

Or are you going to stick with, he was hurt twice, and despite being a superior football player to both of our tight ends...he sucks?

lolcopter
08-29-2012, 07:42 AM
His last contract was for $3.8m. We just locked up Tamme and Dreessen for far less than that, but if you really think an oft-injured 30yo TE is needed for Peyton to run an efficient offense, then be my guest.

I don't think we need him, I don't want him. And in typical orange mane fashion, let's add some scrub but pass on truly elite talent at the RB position (because we're so stacked in that area too!)

Tamme lines up in the slot constantly and has history/rapport with Peyton, Dreessen is the inline blocker, and whoever the third TE we keep is, they'll be far cheaper than Cooley.

2KBack
08-29-2012, 07:50 AM
His last contract was for $3.8m. We just locked up Tamme and Dreessen for far less than that, but if you really think an oft-injured 30yo TE is needed for Peyton to run an efficient offense, then be my guest.

I don't think we need him, I don't want him. And in typical orange mane fashion, let's add some scrub but pass on truly elite talent at the RB position (because we're so stacked in that area too!)

and he got cut, you really think he is going to make 3.8 million?

If you can't see the difference between signing a probowl talent on the cheap (with no cost in draft picks or players) and trading away valuable resources for a top tier player that will want a top tier contract extension as well, not to mention based on the career spans of the 2 positions likely has the same number of effective years left in his career.... Then I don't know how to help you.

lolcopter
08-29-2012, 07:56 AM
There has been no indication the broncos are even interested in Cooley, so it doesn't really matter what any of us think

2KBack
08-29-2012, 08:12 AM
There has been no indication the broncos are even interested in Cooley, so it doesn't really matter what any of us think

Not in the grand scheme, but someone thought they would like to share that they thought Cooley would be a great cheap upgrade for us.

and then somebody apparently took offense and decided to dump on that player, yet without reasoned discussion.

They could have said....I would like to see how they guys we have perform. It's late in the preseason at this point, Cooley may not be a big enough upgrade to thrust him into the lineup without knowing the offense. Our current guys have a relationship with Manning now, I'd rather just stand pat.

lolcopter
08-29-2012, 08:23 AM
If this board wasnt so damn predictable about wanting subpar players added to the team maybe I would have chosen my words better. Next time I'll be sure to be more politically correct when dumping on a washed up TE who was cut by a crappy team with a rookie QB, lest everyone get their panties in a bunch

swaiy
08-29-2012, 09:26 AM
I think Cooley would be a waste. The injuries have slowed him down alot. The guy isn't a scrub though. He's accomplished alot more than every TE on our roster but I think we are pretty set at the position.

If we lost a guy due to injury I'd def say sign him but I'm betting Cooley retires. Dude looked pretty hurt in his press conference that he won't be a Redskin anymore.

DENVERDUI55
08-29-2012, 09:30 AM
I think Cooley would be a waste. The injuries have slowed him down alot. The guy isn't a scrub though. He's accomplished alot more than every TE on our roster but I think we are pretty set at the position.

If we lost a guy due to injury I'd def say sign him but I'm betting Cooley retires. Dude looked pretty hurt in his press conference that he won't be a Redskin anymore.

He would probably come to Denver because it's closer to his hometown and where he went to College. He could probably be a cheap bandaid. I'm surprised NE didnt' sign him yet.

lolcopter
08-29-2012, 09:32 AM
He would probably come to Denver because it's closer to his hometown and where he went to College. He could probably be a cheap bandaid. I'm surprised NE didnt' sign him yet.

They just gave huge contracts to their 2 studs they already have.. why would they want Cooley?

swaiy
08-29-2012, 09:35 AM
He would probably come to Denver because it's closer to his hometown and where he went to College. He could probably be a cheap bandaid. I'm surprised NE didnt' sign him yet.

It's possible. Football is unpredictable as hell. If it came down to it and we needed him, I'd be for it.

As for NE, I'm starting to think they sign people for ****s and gigs

2KBack
08-29-2012, 09:37 AM
He would probably come to Denver because it's closer to his hometown and where he went to College. He could probably be a cheap bandaid. I'm surprised NE didnt' sign him yet.

NE is stacked at that position, I don't see the draw for Cooley. I don't think he is a ring chaser. Honestly Swaiy may be right, Cooley was a Diehard Redskin, I could honestly see him retiring and working as a broadcaster locally.

DENVERDUI55
08-29-2012, 09:40 AM
NE is stacked at that position, I don't see the draw for Cooley. I don't think he is a ring chaser. Honestly Swaiy may be right, Cooley was a Diehard Redskin, I could honestly see him retiring and working as a broadcaster locally.

I was joking about NE but look at all the TE's they have signed.

2KBack
08-29-2012, 09:42 AM
I was joking about NE but look at all the TE's they have signed.

They do love tight ends...

...but who doesn't

broncocalijohn
08-29-2012, 10:17 AM
Hard to tell if you are joking or not. I don't think you are being serious. What Broncos fan, or any fan for that matter, hopes his team loses a playoff game, or any game for that matter. The ONLY game you could even think about wishing to lose is if you were 1-13 or something and a loss would give your the 1st overall pick and somebody like Andrew Luck was sitting there waiting for you. But you're talking about losing a playoff game. That's insane dude. The only way you get one of these......
http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2010_01_25__06_43_59/VinceLombardi_Trophy_Prime_New.jpgcb1fb91d-a873-46be-8b77-44a3a84f026fSmall.jpg
.......is to WIN playoff games to reach the Superbowl. Cmon dude.

Where were you when so called fans wanted to lose against the Vikings so we would end up 7-9 (we didnt know what subpar 8-8 was before this in a long time) and get a better Top 10 draft pick? Well, we ended up winning that game and picked #12. Instead of top 10 quality, we get that scrub Clady.

He was being serious. Our whole season was saved by that big victory. He is an idiot.

Drek
08-29-2012, 10:49 AM
If this board wasnt so damn predictable about wanting subpar players added to the team maybe I would have chosen my words better. Next time I'll be sure to be more politically correct when dumping on a washed up TE who was cut by a crappy team with a rookie QB, lest everyone get their panties in a bunch

Not posting like **** isn't being politically correct. It just requires using that lump of soft tissue positioned between your ears a bit more.

When you arguments against a guy are:
1. "he sucks" when in fact the guy has made a couple pro-bowls and when healthy has still been an effective all around TE.
2. "too old" at 30 years of age when all we need is one season out of him.
3. "too expensive" when he doesn't have a contract and is likely to sign for the vet minimum.

You aren't being politically incorrect. You're just incorrect, which is entirely a product of your own ignorance.

Tamme hasn't looked very good this pre-season at catching the ball and he's never been a good blocker. Virgil Green is out for 4 games to start the year due to his suspension. By most all accounts both Thomas and Ingram have looked like dog **** all camp and pre-season. So that leaves us Dreessen as the only healthy and well rounded TE we can even put on the field.

We need a 3rd TE while we wait for Green to get healthy anyway, why let Thomas or Ingram get the job by default when a vet FA signing has higher upside AND a higher floor?

Tombstone RJ
08-29-2012, 10:59 AM
They do love tight ends...

...but who doesn't

lol, you're a sick man.

canadianbroncosfan
08-29-2012, 11:04 AM
I wasn't too sure about Cooley however I have to say that Drek and 2Kback have swayed me on this, I actually wouldn't be opposed to it and think it has more upside then down.

As for will it happen? Well probably not but there's also a 21 page thread about the unlikely possibility that MJD signs here. Is it the typical Mane? Yes, absolutely. And that's not a bad thing. I come here to read and write about football. This whole Cooley conversation has actually made some good points about how weak our Denver Broncos, the team we come here to discuss, may actually be at TE.

lolcopter
08-29-2012, 11:12 AM
Tamme has a bad preseason, he's worthless. Cooley has no preseason, let's sign him!

Knee injuries be damned! Who cares if he was only relegated to a blocking FB while still with the Skins? He was cut and will be lucky to be picked up by ANY team at this point.

Get off Cooley's jock, he is done, and would not make any worthwhile contribution to this team that would warrant a roster spot.

Rabb
08-29-2012, 11:42 AM
Tamme has a bad preseason, he's worthless. Cooley has no preseason, let's sign him!

Knee injuries be damned! Who cares if he was only relegated to a blocking FB while still with the Skins? He was cut and will be lucky to be picked up by ANY team at this point.

Get off Cooley's jock, he is done, and would not make any worthwhile contribution to this team that would warrant a roster spot.

I don't really have a take on the Cooley deal one way or another, but we signed Keith ****ing Brooking who has yet to do anything in the preseason yet...I am not sure he has even had a practice.

Your argument is invalid.

Drunken.Broncoholic
08-29-2012, 11:45 AM
I dont understand the fascination with obsessing over every player that gets cut should become a bronco. The percentages that we even get any of these players is minimal to zero.

lolcopter
08-29-2012, 11:46 AM
I don't really have a take on the Cooley deal one way or another, but we signed Keith ****ing Brooking who has yet to do anything in the preseason yet...I am not sure he has even had a practice.

Your argument is invalid.

Fair enough. I wouldn't be against signing Cooley, I just don't see it happening and I don't get the big draw to him that maners seem to have. Both him and Brooking would be lucky to make the final roster imo

Rabb
08-29-2012, 11:49 AM
Fair enough. I wouldn't be against signing Cooley, I just don't see it happening and I don't get the big draw to him that maners seem to have. Both him and Brooking would be lucky to make the final roster imo

I would rather just keep someone like Thomas and work on developing him myself, so I tend to agree with you.

We do have this amazing fascination with signing any free player though, it's awesome.

swaiy
08-29-2012, 11:55 AM
I can see why the Redskins cut him. You don't pay $4M to a TE that's 2nd string but when you look at their depth, they look stupid.

Niles Paul was a WR coming out of college and they're trying to make him a TE. Apparently he's not doing well and they're trying to transition him to FB. Logan Paulsen? Dude is pretty much a blocking TE and Richard Quinn? Hilarious!

Now that i think about it, they had the 2nd pick in the draft. Maybe they'll pick up a TE on the waivers because as it stands, they probably would have been better off trying to restructure Cooley.

dictionary
08-29-2012, 12:03 PM
I can see why the Redskins cut him. You don't pay $4M to a TE that's 2nd string but when you look at their depth, they look stupid.

Niles Paul was a WR coming out of college and they're trying to make him a TE. Apparently he's not doing well and they're trying to transition him to FB. Logan Paulsen? Dude is pretty much a blocking TE and Richard Quinn? Hilarious!

Now that i think about it, they had the 2nd pick in the draft. Maybe they'll pick up a TE on the waivers because as it stands, they probably would have been better off trying to restructure Cooley.

I honestly wouldnt be surprised to see Shanny swipe a blocking TE and possibly some linemen from us for depth.

Jekyll15Hyde
08-29-2012, 12:21 PM
I dont understand the fascination with obsessing over every player that gets cut should become a bronco. The percentages that we even get any of these players is minimal to zero.

Its not every player. When there is a decent player cut a position that is generally regarded as one where we are lacking depth, we SHOULD be talking about it.

Gaffney is a good example since the WR depth is sparse after #2.
Same thing is going to be done if we see any decent LBs cut.
I came into this season thinking TE was in great shape but now I am not so sure. Tamme hasn't shown much and make you wonder if his single good season was an apparition. Dreessen was always going to be more in the blocking role relative to the other TEs. Julius Thomas likley is getting cut. Green has some potential but has a suspension. And Ingram hasnt shown enough yet and could likely be PS material. So for a QB like PFM who really likes to use the TE, why wouldnt it be smart to take a look. Downside is you get a guy who is hurt and you cut him and bring up Ingram/Thomas from the PS. Upside is you get the Cooley that has been one of the better pass catching TEs over the past several years, all while never having much at QB. That is a very palatable risk/reward scenario to me.

This is the time of the year where there are those veterans in the 1st cuts where the teams are trying to do them a favor to catch on somewhere else so these next few days are the peak of this.

But I agree that its unlikely we get any of them. If we do, I suspect its at WR, LB or TE. And maybe an outside shot of a veteran to replace Hanie.

lonestar
08-29-2012, 02:39 PM
Hard to tell if you are joking or not. I don't think you are being serious. What Broncos fan, or any fan for that matter, hopes his team loses a playoff game, or any game for that matter. The ONLY game you could even think about wishing to lose is if you were 1-13 or something and a loss would give your the 1st overall pick and somebody like Andrew Luck was sitting there waiting for you. But you're talking about losing a playoff game. That's insane dude. The only way you get one of these......
http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2010_01_25__06_43_59/VinceLombardi_Trophy_Prime_New.jpgcb1fb91d-a873-46be-8b77-44a3a84f026fSmall.jpg
.......is to WIN playoff games to reach the Superbowl. Cmon dude.

Actually serious as a heart attack..

Had we been in a position to win the next week and we all know we were not then losing the game would have gotten us at least 8 earlier picks in each round.

Ifmyounreallynthink we had a chance to want e Super Bowl with Tebow and this team then trying to explain logic will be over your head..

I'd love to win playoff games IF it leads to going to the Super Bowl.

But alas We played a real team the next week that was unlike PIT that was at about half staff when they hit the third quarter..

I really dislike getting my ass handed to us in the playoffs and Just maybe this team this year will be able to do more,(barring injuries ) but as much as I loved seeing the Broncos play and win that was a hollow at best win and I suspect when the steelers come to play this year they will show their true colors.

I'd have rather lost a close playoff game to PIT and drafted earlier as well as not pissed them off for our opener.

I'm one of those fans that is looking for long term goals not a hollow cheap victory.

swaiy
08-29-2012, 02:47 PM
If we lost to the Steelers and they lost to the Patriots, would Pittsburgh have drafted in our spot and us in their's?

lonestar
08-29-2012, 02:49 PM
Where were you when so called fans wanted to lose against the Vikings so we would end up 7-9 (we didnt know what subpar 8-8 was before this in a long time) and get a better Top 10 draft pick? Well, we ended up winning that game and picked #12. Instead of top 10 quality, we get that scrub Clady.

He was being serious. Our whole season was saved by that big victory. He is an idiot.

Frankly if you think our whole season was bed by a cheap win over a team that had about half their starters in the game near the end then I feel for you..

I've seen this team play for going on 52 years now and beating them in OT while it felt good at the moment it was not worth losing draft choices 8 or more and the upcoming ass kicking they will bring on opening day..
At hat is a proud team and knowing that DEN knocked them outof the playoffs. Gonna be a long day for you..
We will see who the idiot is at that point..

Hell we will not have at least two of our big guns on opening day due to injury and stupidity. :thumbs:

lonestar
08-29-2012, 02:50 PM
If we lost to the Steelers and they lost to the Patriots, would Pittsburgh have drafted in our spot and us in their's?

We would have drafted with the 8-8 teams rotating with them and then PIT would have been drafting where we did..

swaiy
08-29-2012, 02:52 PM
I guess it doesn't matter. No one in the NFL gets paid to lose games to have a better draft position.

I think it worked in our favor to win a playoff game with a RB playing QB. I don't think PM would have came here if this team looked like total ass.

They got that far without a QB so I'm dying to see what they do with a HOF one.

lonestar
08-29-2012, 02:54 PM
I dont understand the fascination with obsessing over every player that gets cut should become a bronco. The percentages that we even get any of these players is minimal to zero.

Nothing pisses me off more than seeing a thread for every schmuck that gets cut with someone hyping the hell out of them like it would be a sure thing..

Most forget that they go through waivers and We would get them after 24 othe teams passes on them..

pricejj
08-29-2012, 02:56 PM
We would have drafted with the 8-8 teams rotating with them and then PIT would have been drafting where we did..

Correct me if I'm wrong, but instead of drafting #25 and #57, we would have drafted #24 and #56...in which we would have ended up with exactly the same draft picks (after trades).

No change...glad we won. The Tebow/DT OT touchdown was one of the greatest moments in Bronco history.

pricejj
08-29-2012, 02:59 PM
the upcoming ass kicking they will bring on opening day..



You think the Steelers are mad, and they're going to beat the Broncos on opening day, huh? I only have one thing to say to you...










GO BRONCOS!!!!

2KBack
08-29-2012, 03:00 PM
Nothing pisses me off more than seeing a thread for every schmuck that gets cut with someone hyping the hell out of them like it would be a sure thing..

Most forget that they go through waivers and We would get them after 24 othe teams passes on them..

Apparently some forget that any player that has been in the league at least 4 years doesn't go through waivers

swaiy
08-29-2012, 03:09 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but instead of drafting #25 and #57, we would have drafted #24 and #56...in which we would have ended up with exactly the same draft picks (after trades).

No change...glad we won. The Tebow/DT OT touchdown was one of the greatest moments in Bronco history.

That's the impression I was under.

Also, I don't care what draft positions were on the line. Who in the hell HOPES their team loses, period.

lonestar
08-29-2012, 03:10 PM
Its not every player. When there is a decent player cut a position that is generally regarded as one where we are lacking depth, we SHOULD be talking about it.

Gaffney is a good example since the WR depth is sparse after #2.
Same thing is going to be done if we see any decent LBs cut.
I came into this season thinking TE was in great shape but now I am not so sure. Tamme hasn't shown much and make you wonder if his single good season was an apparition. Dreessen was always going to be more in the blocking role relative to the other TEs. Julius Thomas likley is getting cut. Green has some potential but has a suspension. And Ingram hasnt shown enough yet and could likely be PS material. So for a QB like PFM who really likes to use the TE, why wouldnt it be smart to take a look. Downside is you get a guy who is hurt and you cut him and bring up Ingram/Thomas from the PS. Upside is you get the Cooley that has been one of the better pass catching TEs over the past several years, all while never having much at QB. That is a very palatable risk/reward scenario to me.

This is the time of the year where there are those veterans in the 1st cuts where the teams are trying to do them a favor to catch on somewhere else so these next few days are the peak of this.

But I agree that its unlikely we get any of them. If we do, I suspect its at WR, LB or TE. And maybe an outside shot of a veteran to replace Hanie.
Good logic. For the most part..
But think in this manner..

24 other teams have to pass on him before we would get him and IF we did then we would be on the hook for s contract as it stands..

Therefore more likely he will clear waivers and then try and make a deal with his best deal..

Most likely NOT in DEN because of the money crunch if they have any hope of tryiing to sign Clady this year..

2KBack
08-29-2012, 03:17 PM
Good logic. For the most part..
But think in this manner..

24 other teams have to pass on him before we would get him and IF we did then we would be on the hook for s contract as it stands..

Therefore more likely he will clear waivers and then try and make a deal with his best deal..

Most likely NOT in DEN because of the money crunch if they have any hope of tryiing to sign Clady this year..

If you are talking about Cooley, he does not have to clear waivers. You have kept mentioning this...please see below

Player with 3 or fewer years in the league = Waived, must pass through waivers

Player with 4 or more years in league= Released, contract eliminated, free agent

You don't think that Manning went through waivers do you?

swaiy
08-29-2012, 03:18 PM
Apparently some forget that any player that has been in the league at least 4 years doesn't go through waivers

Just quoting this because people keep overlooking it.

lonestar
08-29-2012, 03:20 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but instead of drafting #25 and #57, we would have drafted #24 and #56...in which we would have ended up with exactly the same draft picks (after trades).

No change...glad we won. The Tebow/DT OT touchdown was one of the greatest moments in Bronco history.

No we would have drafted After the jets at #17 IIRC. And then rotaed with the other 8-8 teams between 13 and 21. For the rest of the draft..
http://www.nfl.com/standings?category=league&season=2011-REG&split=Overall
Yes that was one of the greatest pass in history but because of that we paid a price..

IMO not worth the win.. Considering the ass kicking we took the next week because that was not a playoff team..

swaiy
08-29-2012, 03:21 PM
If you are talking about Cooley, he does not have to clear waivers. You have kept mentioning this...please see below

Player with 3 or fewer years in the league = Waived, must pass through waivers

Player with 4 or more years in league= Released, contract eliminated, free agent

You don't think that Manning went through waivers do you?

I think he meant Gaffney but, you're still right. Gaff been playing forever lol

pricejj
08-29-2012, 03:26 PM
That's the impression I was under.

Also, I don't care what draft positions were on the line. Who in the hell HOPES their team loses, period.

After looking at it, we would have been drafting #21 and #53, taking the place of the Bengals, with the worst record out of the teams who lost in the first round of the playoffs.

#21: The Patriots probably would have wanted to trade with us to get Chandler Jones at #21...in which case, we would have traded down in order to draft Derek Wolfe. I suppose there is a chance we would have drafted Brandon Weeden, but doubtful (we would have passed on Reiff and Decastro).

#53: We would have a choice between Devon Still, Ryan Broyles, Peter Konz, and Mike Adams. Would we have drafted Konz instead of Osweiler? Possibly, and that would be pretty sweet...but it sounds like Osweiler was the Broncos target, because we needed a back-up QB.

swaiy
08-29-2012, 03:26 PM
Frankly if you think our whole season was bed by a cheap win over a team that had about half their starters in the game near the end then I feel for you..


You keep saying that. Is every win that a team gets over another team with injuries considered a cheap win?

Jekyll15Hyde
08-29-2012, 03:27 PM
Good logic. For the most part..
But think in this manner..

24 other teams have to pass on him before we would get him and IF we did then we would be on the hook for s contract as it stands..

Therefore more likely he will clear waivers and then try and make a deal with his best deal..

Most likely NOT in DEN because of the money crunch if they have any hope of tryiing to sign Clady this year..

As 2KBack pointed out, I am generally talking about veteran players here so no waivers. Remember, there is no plan B. And I think the allure of playing on a team with PFM that they think they could bolster is a major reason why said example player would have Denver on the short list and maybe even take a slightly lesser contract.

The only 2 cuts that have caught my attention are Gaffney and Cooley. I will be very interested to see what shows up at LB.

pricejj
08-29-2012, 03:28 PM
No we would have drafted After the jets at #17 IIRC. And then rotaed with the other 8-8 teams between 13 and 21. For the rest of the draft..


Not true man, ALL playoff teams draft later than teams who didn't make the playoffs...no matter their record.

We probably would have ended up with the same players...Wolfe and Osweiler.

lonestar
08-29-2012, 03:32 PM
After looking at it, we would have been drafting #21 and #53, taking the place of the Bengals, with the worst record out of the teams who lost in the first round of the playoffs.

#21: The Patriots probably would have wanted to trade with us to get Chandler Jones at #21...in which case, we would have traded down in order to draft Derek Wolfe. I suppose there is a chance we would have drafted Brandon Weeden, but doubtful (we would have passed on Reiff and Decastro).

#53: We would have a choice between Devon Still, Ryan Broyles, Peter Konz, and Mike Adams. Would we have drafted Konz instead of Osweiler? Possibly, and that would be pretty sweet...but it sounds like Osweiler was the Broncos target, because we needed a back-up QB.
Look again

http://www.nfl.com/standings?category=league&season=2011-REG&split=Overall.

Number 17. And not sure about draft pick #2. As it moves around with tied teams..

lonestar
08-29-2012, 03:36 PM
If you are talking about Cooley, he does not have to clear waivers. You have kept mentioning this...please see below

Player with 3 or fewer years in the league = Waived, must pass through waivers

Player with 4 or more years in league= Released, contract eliminated, free agent

You don't think that Manning went through waivers do you?

Thanks was not aware of the new CBA. As for manning pretty sure he would have cleared waivers considering his injury and price tag..

I know I would not have taken him off waivers without knowing for sure he was fixed..

lonestar
08-29-2012, 03:42 PM
You keep saying that. Is every win that a team gets over another team with injuries considered a cheap win?

Actually yes. Not that I would not normally take one. But considering that everyone was excited about winning the game with about half of their starters not able to play IMO that is a cheap win and if I'm in the playoffs I'd like the wins to be legit.. Considering the next game coming up.. I'd like my team KNOWING they beat the best and knowing they could play with the big boys.. something we have not done since John retired..

But that is just me.. A player down here and there that is wear and tear.. Almost half the starters not according to Hoyle.

pricejj
08-29-2012, 03:44 PM
Look again


"The selection order is based on each team's win-loss record in the previous season and whether the team reached the playoffs. Teams that did not reach the playoffs the previous season are ranked in reverse order of their records (so the team with the fewest wins is awarded the first selection). "

Non-playoff teams: 120
Eliminated in Wild Card round: 2124
Eliminated in Divisional round: 2528
Eliminated in Conference Championships: 2930
Super Bowl losing team: 31
Super Bowl champion: 32

If the Giants would have lost the Superbowl, they would have picked #31...not where the other 9-7 teams picked...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_Draft#Rules_for_determini ng_draft_order (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_Draft#Rules_for_determini ng_draft_order)

lonestar
08-29-2012, 03:47 PM
"The selection order is based on each team's win-loss record in the previous season and whether the team reached the playoffs. Teams that did not reach the playoffs the previous season are ranked in reverse order of their records (so the team with the fewest wins is awarded the first selection). "

Non-playoff teams: 120
Eliminated in Wild Card round: 2124
Eliminated in Divisional round: 2528
Eliminated in Conference Championships: 2930
Super Bowl losing team: 31
Super Bowl champion: 32

If the Giants would have lost the Superbowl, they would have picked #31...not where the other 9-7 teams picked...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_Draft#Rules_for_determini ng_draft_order (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_Draft#Rules_for_determini ng_draft_order)


Thanks. I was told regardless of playoffs or not because we won we slipped from the rankings. To where we were..

Losing 8 slots..

I'd still like to see the rule in something that has more cred's than wiki.

pricejj
08-29-2012, 03:48 PM
...

It wasn't a cheap win, it was a top 10 moment in Broncos History.

Don't worry, after we kick the pee out of the Steelers in the opener, it will be all worth it.


If the Broncos didn't beat the Steelers in the playoffs, Manning probably wouldn't have picked us, because he would have thought we were too far away from winning the Superbowl. It's all good, my friend, GO BRONCOS!!

lonestar
08-29-2012, 03:58 PM
It wasn't a cheap win, it was a top 10 moment in Broncos History.

Don't worry, after we kick the pee out of the Steelers in the opener, it will be all worth it.


If the Broncos didn't beat the Steelers in the playoffs, Manning probably wouldn't have picked us, because he would have thought we were too far away from winning the Superbowl. It's all good, my friend, GO BRONCOS!!

If that was the reason he picked us of SFO then he is dumber than dirt..

pricejj
08-29-2012, 04:01 PM
If that was the reason he picked us of SFO then he is dumber than dirt..

It had to factor in. Without the playoff win, I don't think we're in the equation...kinda like the Chiefs. I don't think he picked SF because Eli's in the NFC. Manning could have ended up in Houston or Tennessee.

oubronco
08-29-2012, 07:19 PM
Bengals sign former Buccaneers center Jeff Faine (http://profootball.scout.com/2/1216050.html)

Faine is a 10-year veteran who has 117 career starts, including stints with the Cleveland Browns (http://cle.scout.com/), New Orleans Saints (http://nor.scout.com/) and Tampa Bay

Is he any good? If so wonder if the Broncos even looked his way

TheReverend
08-29-2012, 08:02 PM
Bengals sign former Buccaneers center Jeff Faine (http://profootball.scout.com/2/1216050.html)

Faine is a 10-year veteran who has 117 career starts, including stints with the Cleveland Browns (http://cle.scout.com/), New Orleans Saints (http://nor.scout.com/) and Tampa Bay

Is he any good? If so wonder if the Broncos even looked his way

Once upon a time.

errand
08-29-2012, 09:06 PM
I dont understand the fascination with obsessing over every player that gets cut should become a bronco. The percentages that we even get any of these players is minimal to zero.


What's even funnier was the bruhaha over whether or not the Broncos should try and land Manning.....some of clowns that thought it was stupid to try or even inquire about his interest to play for us are now clamoring for every stiff cut by some other team.

As for Cooley, he may or may not be past his prime or even any good...but if he can't play for the Redskins who finished 5-11 and in last place in their division, then what makes you think he can play here?

Jekyll15Hyde
08-29-2012, 09:14 PM
What's even funnier was the bruhaha over whether or not the Broncos should try and land Manning.....some of clowns that thought it was stupid to try or even acquire about his interest to play for us are now clamoring for every stiff cut by some other team.

As for Cooley, he may or may not be past his prime or even any good...but if he can't play for the Redskins who finished 5-11 and in last place in their division, then what makes you think he can play here?

Its a question of what you believe... Is he injured? If yes, then pass... But if the reports are true that he wanted a starting role, and he really is healthy, I see no reason why he cant compete with Tamme

errand
08-29-2012, 09:15 PM
That's the impression I was under.

Also, I don't care what draft positions were on the line. Who in the hell HOPES their team loses, period.

Exactly...regardless of how you feel about the coach, FO, certain players, etc....I cannot fathom anyone hoping we'd lose a game. Now they might predict we'll lose one...but surely never hope to lose one.

errand
08-29-2012, 09:18 PM
If you are talking about Cooley, he does not have to clear waivers. You have kept mentioning this...please see below

Player with 3 or fewer years in the league = Waived, must pass through waivers

Player with 4 or more years in league= Released, contract eliminated, free agent

You don't think that Manning went through waivers do you?

Orton has spent more than 4 years in NFL, and was waived this past season....and he was claimed by KC....or is your post about just during the offseason?

Ok on edit I found this...

As of 2008, according to the NFL collective bargaining agreement, if any waiver of a veteran player who has completed the season that gives him four years of service occurs between February 1 and the trading deadline in mid October, then that player shall be considered an unrestricted free agent by termination of his contract.

This must mean that if you're released between the trading deadline in mid October and February 1st, then you must clear waivers...

Beantown Bronco
08-30-2012, 06:25 AM
This must mean that if you're released between the trading deadline in mid October and February 1st, then you must clear waivers...

Yes. Because they don't want any shenanigans during the season where poor teams dump players at the end of the year and the playoff teams put together dream teams for their playoff runs.

SouthStndJunkie
08-30-2012, 04:05 PM
The NFL has suspended Titans wide receiver Kenny Britt for one game, the Tennessean reported Thursday.

swaiy
08-30-2012, 04:27 PM
Kenny Britt has been in trouble so many times. How in the hell did he just get 1 game?

I wonder what he'll get if convicted on that DUI

SouthStndJunkie
08-31-2012, 02:37 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/31/cardinals-choose-john-skelton-to-start-opener-over-kevin-kolb/

Cardinals choose John Skelton to start opener over Kevin Kolb

lonestar
08-31-2012, 03:11 PM
It had to factor in. Without the playoff win, I don't think we're in the equation...kinda like the Chiefs. I don't think he picked SF because Eli's in the NFC. Manning could have ended up in Houston or Tennessee.

Ok I can understand not wanting to pay your brother in the playoffs but is playing against him in the super bowl any better?

Tombstone RJ
08-31-2012, 03:13 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/31/cardinals-choose-john-skelton-to-start-opener-over-kevin-kolb/

Cardinals choose John Skelton to start opener over Kevin Kolb

I bet the cards FO is feeling real good about paying Kolb a lot of money to warm the bench...

SouthStndJunkie
09-01-2012, 04:41 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/01/seahawks-release-kellen-winslow/

Seahawks release Kellen Winslow

SouthStndJunkie
09-02-2012, 09:50 AM
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Jacksonville Jaguars running back Maurice Jones-Drew has ended his 38-day holdout -- without a new contract.

Broncos_OTM
09-02-2012, 12:50 PM
ouch that had to have hurt

lolcopter
09-02-2012, 02:13 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/01/seahawks-release-kellen-winslow/

Seahawks release Kellen Winslow

Wheres the thread for us to pick him up?

R8R H8R
09-02-2012, 02:28 PM
Wheres the thread for us to pick him up?

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=105614&highlight=kellen+winslow

:~ohyah!:

lonestar
09-02-2012, 02:31 PM
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Jacksonville Jaguars running back Maurice Jones-Drew has ended his 38-day holdout -- without a new contract.

All those morons pissing and moaning about him coming here are going to be heart broken.

menonite
09-02-2012, 02:35 PM
All those morons pissing and moaning about him coming here are going to be heart broken.


Shanahan's behind this - I just know it!

lolcopter
09-02-2012, 02:43 PM
All those morons pissing and moaning about him coming here are going to be heart broken.

Not really, by you'd have to be a moron to not want a top 5 RB added to the roster



Oh wait, let's add some TEs who just got cut instead

IA-Broncosfan53
09-02-2012, 02:46 PM
ProFootballTalk just tweeted Ryan Harris was signed today by the Texans to their active roster. Kubiak sure loves his ex-Bronco has beens. I wonder if they regret parting ways with Eric Winston?

lonestar
09-02-2012, 03:17 PM
Not really, by you'd have to be a moron to not want a top 5 RB added to the roster



Oh wait, let's add some TEs who just got cut instead

This is counter productive IMO. Once again this is a passing league and while he would give us the ability to run so does mc gahee, and our other RBs.
Read this the other day and it made more sense than anything else comparison of number of carries between him and TD.

So you're looking at around $20M or more in guarantees, plus a high draft choice, all for a 27-year-old back with 1,762 touches on his tires. If you're wondering, Terrell Davis logged 1,824 touches in his entire career.


Not even mention what JAC would get in return.. Way to much to pay for a guy that has that many miles on his legs and knees..

But then if your a democratic spending someone elses money comes easy for y'all.
http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/broncos/entry/why-pursuing-mjd-would-make-no-sense-for-the-broncos

lonestar
09-02-2012, 03:19 PM
ProFootballTalk just tweeted Ryan Harris was signed today by the Texans to their active roster. Kubiak sure loves his ex-Bronco has beens. I wonder if they regret parting ways with Eric Winston?

Your were correct HAS BEEN. If it was not for the ZBS he would have been a never was..

lolcopter
09-02-2012, 03:29 PM
But then if your a democratic spending someone elses money comes easy for y'all.

wtf are you talking about

That One Guy
09-02-2012, 04:10 PM
We should get a new one for this season. This thread is a beast.

swaiy
09-02-2012, 04:46 PM
Here comes the politics... Smh.

menonite
09-02-2012, 04:57 PM
The Whigs shall rise again!

Chris
09-02-2012, 05:44 PM
We should get a new one for this season. This thread is a beast.

Started on my 24th birthday... I'm almost 28.

Jetland
09-03-2012, 03:20 AM
This is counter productive IMO. Once again this is a passing league and while he would give us the ability to run so does mc gahee, and our other RBs.
Read this the other day and it made more sense than anything else comparison of number of carries between him and TD.



Not even mention what JAC would get in return.. Way to much to pay for a guy that has that many miles on his legs and knees..

But then if your a democratic spending someone elses money comes easy for y'all.
http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/broncos/entry/why-pursuing-mjd-would-make-no-sense-for-the-broncos

I would like to second the what the hell are you talking about?

Bmore Manning
09-03-2012, 11:00 AM
Chicago cut Brian Price..

DBroncos4life
09-03-2012, 11:23 AM
Chicago cut Brian Price..

I didn't even know he was traded from the Bucs. What a bust.

Dexter
09-03-2012, 11:26 AM
I didn't even know he was traded from the Bucs. What a bust.

May want to cut him a little bit of slack. I wouldn't claim him, and he hasn't been an all-star or anything but I feel bad for him personally:

From Rotoworld:

Bears waived DT Brian Price.
Per FOX Sports' Jay Glazer, Price's release is due in part to his struggle to "get past the recent passing of his sister." Price's sister was killed in a May automobile accident. Acquired from the Bucs in July, Price is just two years removed from being a second-round pick. He drew the ire of former coach Raheem Morris during the Bucs' embarrassing 2011 collapse, however, and wasn't a fit for hard-nosed rookie coach Greg Schiano. It's an ominous sign that Bears defensive coordinator Rod Marinelli couldn't turn Price around, either. He'll surely resurface, but time away from the game might do Price well.

DBroncos4life
09-03-2012, 11:31 AM
May want to cut him a little bit of slack. I wouldn't claim him, and he hasn't been an all-star or anything but I feel bad for him personally:

From Rotoworld:

Bears waived DT Brian Price.
Per FOX Sports' Jay Glazer, Price's release is due in part to his struggle to "get past the recent passing of his sister." Price's sister was killed in a May automobile accident. Acquired from the Bucs in July, Price is just two years removed from being a second-round pick. He drew the ire of former coach Raheem Morris during the Bucs' embarrassing 2011 collapse, however, and wasn't a fit for hard-nosed rookie coach Greg Schiano. It's an ominous sign that Bears defensive coordinator Rod Marinelli couldn't turn Price around, either. He'll surely resurface, but time away from the game might do Price well.
He had leg and head injuries too. I'm just saying for a guy that was a 2nd round steal, he looks the part of a bust.

Dexter
09-03-2012, 12:34 PM
He had leg and head injuries too. I'm just saying for a guy that was a 2nd round steal, he looks the part of a bust.

Yeah I know what you're saying. With guys like this, if he ever gets healthy, and is given another chance, he may be able to turn it on.

Bmore Manning
09-03-2012, 07:13 PM
Price has had some unfortunate bad luck and tragic events plague his young career.. I would sign him to the practice squad.

DBroncos4life
09-03-2012, 07:24 PM
Price has had some unfortunate bad luck and tragic events plague his young career.. I would sign him to the practice squad.

If he would go for it I would agree but, I doubt he would.

SouthStndJunkie
09-03-2012, 08:03 PM
A couple of nice articles on Russell Wilson:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/russell-wilson-aims-for-greatness/

Russell Wilson aims for greatness

http://seattle.sbnation.com/2012/9/2/3287187/russell-wilson-looks-to-emulate-peyton-mannings-off-field-work-ethic

Russell Wilson Looks To Emulate Peyton Manning's Off Field Work Ethic

When you're looking to become a (successful) outlier - as 5'10 5/8" Russell Wilson would be as a quarterback in the NFL - work ethic and study habits become extremely important. It's clear that athletic prowess alone probably cannot make the difference for Wilson, who will try and become the only sub-six-foot quarterback in the NFL's current era that achieves sustained success. There have been a six-footer here and there that breaks the mold - Michael Vick and his transcendent and unequaled athleticism and ridiculously strong arm, and Drew Brees with his masterful footwork in the pocket to go with his elite accuracy. Wilson isn't hoping his physical ability alone can help him break the "NFL QB" mold. He's hoping an uncommon, unrivaled work ethic can.

Per Dan Pompei's NFP Sunday Blitz column, Pompei notes that "Russell Wilson was not handed the Seahawks starting job. I'm told in July he often was the only football person at the Seahawks facility, as he showed up every day at 6:30 a.m. to watch tape. Wilson has a little Peyton Manning in him. In fact, he consulted with Manning before the draft, as well as Eli Manning, Drew Brees and Philip Rivers. Wilson also visited with Colts quarterback coach Clyde Christensen, who previously coached Peyton Manning. Christensen shared Peyton's notes with Wilson, and they were similar to the kind of notes Wilson takes. Wilson keeps a diary of every practice on an Excel worksheet."

This goes right along with something that Pete Carroll said back in July when he said that Wilson was 'outworking everyone in the program.' Wilson will need to know every opposing defense's weakness, their starters and backups, their strategic tendencies based on personnel groups, their bad habits, and their strengths. Not only that, he tracks his own play very closely, tweaking and improving and setting new goals to eliminate mistakes. He's a worker.

gyldenlove
09-03-2012, 08:43 PM
This is counter productive IMO. Once again this is a passing league and while he would give us the ability to run so does mc gahee, and our other RBs.
Read this the other day and it made more sense than anything else comparison of number of carries between him and TD.



Not even mention what JAC would get in return.. Way to much to pay for a guy that has that many miles on his legs and knees..

But then if your a democratic spending someone elses money comes easy for y'all.
http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/broncos/entry/why-pursuing-mjd-would-make-no-sense-for-the-broncos

He has less than 1500 carries, he has only 3 years with more than 200 carries.

Mcgahee has 1800 carries and 5 years with over 200 carries, Adrian Peterson has 1400 carries and 5 years over 200 carries, Chris Johnson has 1200 carries and 4 years over 200 carries, Frank Gore 1650 carries and 6 years over 200 carries.

Jones-Drew has more treads on his tires than most good or great RBs in the league currently, he hasn't had any significant injuries in the last 3 years despite being the bellcow.

If we apply the same logic that Mr. Douglas Lee is using to argue against MJD, we should never have gotten Manning - no QB has won a super bowl after switching teams in his mid 30s, most super bowls are won by QBs in the their 30s and by QBs who are with their first NFL team. The 20 million per year for a player who has missed an entire season of football is just too much money compared to how little we had to pay Tebow. Tebow would be cheaper and we should surely give him a chance to show what he can do, the same way Ronnie Hillman now deserves a chance.

20 million in guarantees, seems reasonable to me if he can play for another 3 seasons that is less than 7 million per year in guarantees plus some salary for one of, if not the best RB in the league - being elite costs money. For ****s and giggles we are paying Champ Bailey more than 10 million per year despite his age and recent injuries, elite talent is worth the money.

lonestar
09-04-2012, 03:06 AM
He has less than 1500 carries, he has only 3 years with more than 200 carries.

Mcgahee has 1800 carries and 5 years with over 200 carries, Adrian Peterson has 1400 carries and 5 years over 200 carries, Chris Johnson has 1200 carries and 4 years over 200 carries, Frank Gore 1650 carries and 6 years over 200 carries.

Jones-Drew has more treads on his tires than most good or great RBs in the league currently, he hasn't had any significant injuries in the last 3 years despite being the bellcow.

If we apply the same logic that Mr. Douglas Lee is using to argue against MJD, we should never have gotten Manning - no QB has won a super bowl after switching teams in his mid 30s, most super bowls are won by QBs in the their 30s and by QBs who are with their first NFL team. The 20 million per year for a player who has missed an entire season of football is just too much money compared to how little we had to pay Tebow. Tebow would be cheaper and we should surely give him a chance to show what he can do, the same way Ronnie Hillman now deserves a chance.

20 million in guarantees, seems reasonable to me if he can play for another 3 seasons that is less than 7 million per year in guarantees plus some salary for one of, if not the best RB in the league - being elite costs money. For ****s and giggles we are paying Champ Bailey more than 10 million per year despite his age and recent injuries, elite talent is worth the money.

He is a 27 year old IIRC running back with loads of hits on him. Which means if you use the average for RBs he is over his career life right about now as well as there are very few RBs over 30. Which is about the time they have lost a step ..

As for Mc Gahee he had some time off during his career and was not used much when he was on a team..

I just do not see the LONG term value of spending that kind of money on a short term RB that would be going to a HOF QB passing team.

The RBs we have will be more than willing or able to mop up after PM gets them a lead. No need to spend huge money on a Ferrari when all you need is a Mustang GT.

If you really want to know I do not believe any player is worth that kind of money and I would not have went after PM but since he is here well no sense in kicking him out the back door.

That said I'd never pay that much for a RB with load sof miles on him.

Bacchus
09-04-2012, 03:12 AM
He is back with the Wads timeto let it go.

SouthStndJunkie
09-04-2012, 04:24 PM
MIAMI -- Quarterback David Garrard has been released by the Miami Dolphins, leaving Matt Moore as the veteran backup to rookie starter Ryan Tannehill.

TheReverend
09-04-2012, 04:28 PM
MIAMI -- Quarterback David Garrard has been released by the Miami Dolphins, leaving Matt Moore as the veteran backup to rookie starter Ryan Tannehill.

In b4 "Bring him in!"

SouthStndJunkie
09-05-2012, 05:34 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/05/wittens-fine-but-he-likely-wont-play/

Witten’s fine, but he likely won’t play

SPORTSWRITER
09-05-2012, 06:33 AM
But then if your a democratic spending someone elses money comes easy for y'all.
http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/broncos/entry/why-pursuing-mjd-would-make-no-sense-for-the-broncos

I dig your quote about DIMocrats spending other people's money!! YOU ROCK!!

SPORTSWRITER
09-05-2012, 06:37 AM
wtf are you talking about

DIMocrats spending, i.e. wasting, our money. I believe THAT'S what!! Obummer is the WORST president in my lifetime, and I've been around since Truman, and suffered through Jimmy Cawta!

SPORTSWRITER
09-05-2012, 06:48 AM
A couple of nice articles on Russell Wilson:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/russell-wilson-aims-for-greatness/

Russell Wilson aims for greatness

http://seattle.sbnation.com/2012/9/2/3287187/russell-wilson-looks-to-emulate-peyton-mannings-off-field-work-ethic

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I'm pulling for Wilson! It's about time that smaller, quicker QB's with great speed and cannon-like arms began to dominate in the NFL! GM's and Scouts always worry about height for a QB, and wonder if he will be able to "see over lineman" and have a greater "view of the field of play." Well, when you can move like Wilson, have his intelligence, work ethic and arm, I happen to believe QB's that size with those traits will find SUCCESS in the NFL, IF they can remain HEALTHY!! It's been happening slowly over the years, and this "change" will really make a much more exciting game for fans!! I really hope such guys will open up the offenses in the league, as well as change the way defenses play too!! GO RGIII ('cept when you play against our Broncos)!!

BroncoBuff
09-05-2012, 07:22 AM
The saddest part is, Wilson was still on the board when we picked Brock Osweiler ... :(

Seriously though, as a senior he completed 73% of his passes for 33 TDs and just 4 Ints, Badgers coaches said 2 of the 4 were receiver error. Pete Carroll said Wilson sees passing lanes develop and reads downfield traffic better than anybody he's seen, for what that's worth.

BroncoInferno
09-05-2012, 07:29 AM
The saddest part is, Wilson was still on the board when we picked Brock Osweiler ... :(

Seriously though, as a senior he completed 73% of his passes for 33 TDs and just 4 Ints, Badgers coaches said 2 of the 4 were receiver error. Pete Carroll said Wilson sees passing lanes develop and reads downfield traffic better than anybody he's seen, for what that's worth.

A lot of folks whiffed on Wilson because of the heighth issue. In any case, let's not crown the guy yet based on an impressive preseason. Nor, for that matter, declare Osweiler a bust. We knew he was a raw project when drafted him, so how about give him a little time (and this is coming from someone who didn't really like the pick)?

DBroncos4life
09-05-2012, 07:33 AM
The saddest part is, Wilson was still on the board when we picked Brock Osweiler ... :(

Seriously though, as a senior he completed 73% of his passes for 33 TDs and just 4 Ints, Badgers coaches said 2 of the 4 were receiver error. Pete Carroll said Wilson sees passing lanes develop and reads downfield traffic better than anybody he's seen, for what that's worth.

It's really not worth much. Wilson will be 27/28 when manningis done. No thanks. Rather have Oz at 24.

BroncoBuff
09-05-2012, 09:06 AM
Bucs and Broncos should man-up and admit their mistake. Bravely cut their losses and do what's right for each team: swap Brock Osweiler straight up for Lavonte David.

We all know what's happened with DJ Williams, and thus why Lavonte David was right for us, would've made us a better team. At the same time Josh Freeman's inaccuracy and slow adaptation to the new offense is "causing growing concerns" (see below). In Osweiler, the Bucs would've scored the rare 'same-size-as-Josh' QB, one with a more accurate arm.

Get it done, Bucs and Broncos ... don't worry how it looks, just do what you need to do to make things right.

And can you get it done before all the drama starts up this afternoon?





All this in just the past 10 days ... he's getting worse, not better.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9953/joshwz.png

SouthStndJunkie
09-06-2012, 08:44 PM
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2012/09/jerry-jones-has-someone-wipe-his-glasses-for-him-photos/1?csp=hf#.UElemUT7oXw

Jerry Jones' son-in-law wipes his glasses for him

errand
09-06-2012, 08:55 PM
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2012/09/jerry-jones-has-someone-wipe-his-glasses-for-him-photos/1?csp=hf#.UElemUT7oXw

Jerry Jones' son-in-law wipes his glasses for him


...and as his son-in-law, he'll inherit a few bucks too....can you blame him?

Tim
09-06-2012, 08:55 PM
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2012/09/jerry-jones-has-someone-wipe-his-glasses-for-him-photos/1?csp=hf#.UElemUT7oXw

Jerry Jones' son-in-law wipes his glasses for him

I saw that last night, he made that guy out to be his bitch on live tv:spit:

bowtown
09-06-2012, 09:24 PM
The saddest part is, Wilson was still on the board when we picked Brock Osweiler ... :(

Seriously though, as a senior he completed 73% of his passes for 33 TDs and just 4 Ints, Badgers coaches said 2 of the 4 were receiver error. Pete Carroll said Wilson sees passing lanes develop and reads downfield traffic better than anybody he's seen, for what that's worth.

Do you have your new Russel Wilson 2012 Preseason Forevah tattoo yet?

oubronco
09-07-2012, 08:08 AM
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2012/09/jerry-jones-has-someone-wipe-his-glasses-for-him-photos/1?csp=hf#.UElemUT7oXw

Jerry Jones' son-in-law wipes his glasses for him

I'm sure that's not the only thing he's wiping

peacepipe
09-07-2012, 08:51 AM
irsay had a funny tweet about jerry jones

he tweeted,
" I hired the gimp from pulp fiction 2 clean my glasses,he lives under a trap door in the owners suite.he also does my groceries."

bronco militia
09-07-2012, 10:12 AM
irsay had a funny tweet about jerry jones

he tweeted,
" I hired the gimp from pulp fiction 2 clean my glasses,he lives under a trap door in the owners suite.he also does my groceries."

bwhaha...awesome

menonite
09-07-2012, 10:42 AM
irsay had a funny tweet about jerry jones

he tweeted,
" I hired the gimp from pulp fiction 2 clean my glasses,he lives under a trap door in the owners suite.he also does my groceries."


By "groceries" he meant five dime bags and a Hefty bag of shrooms.

Play2win
09-07-2012, 11:13 AM
The saddest part is, Wilson was still on the board when we picked Brock Osweiler ... :(

Seriously though, as a senior he completed 73% of his passes for 33 TDs and just 4 Ints, Badgers coaches said 2 of the 4 were receiver error. Pete Carroll said Wilson sees passing lanes develop and reads downfield traffic better than anybody he's seen, for what that's worth.

POSH! Brock is going to revolutionize the Quarterback position!

:)

SouthStndJunkie
09-07-2012, 05:00 PM
Running back Arian Foster expects to play for the Texans on Sunday.

Coach Gary Kubiak isn’t quite so sure. He called Foster a game time decision during his meeting with the media on Friday after Foster missed practice because of knee soreness. Foster was pulled out of practice on Thursday with the same problem, leading to a visit to the MRI machine that Kubiak said turned out fine.

broncosteven
09-07-2012, 07:24 PM
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2012/09/jerry-jones-has-someone-wipe-his-glasses-for-him-photos/1?csp=hf#.UElemUT7oXw

Jerry Jones' son-in-law wipes his glasses for him

That is nothing compared to what Al Davis's inlaws had to do!

oubronco
09-07-2012, 07:50 PM
POSH! Brock is going to revolutionize the Quarterback position!

:)

Oh Good Grief!! here we go

SouthStndJunkie
09-07-2012, 09:58 PM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8348650/cleveland-browns-honor-late-owner-art-modell-opener

Browns to pay tribute to Art Modell

BEREA, Ohio -- Art Modell will be recognized Sunday by the team he moved to Baltimore.

The Cleveland Browns plan to have an "appropriate recognition" for the late Modell at the season opener against the Philadelphia Eagles.

SouthStndJunkie
09-07-2012, 09:59 PM
I don't think that's really a good idea.

It's going to be a pretty awkward moment when they hold a moment of silence and the crowd starts booing very loudly.

Common sense would tell them that this is the likely scenario and to leave well enough alone.

Art Modell had nothing to do with the current Browns franchise....he took his team to Baltimore.

lolcopter
09-08-2012, 01:12 PM
Broncos release Caleb hanie... Where's the celebration thread?

crush17
09-08-2012, 01:13 PM
Broncos release Caleb hanie... Where's the celebration thread?

There are 2 threads on the front page talking about it.

DBroncos4life
09-08-2012, 01:29 PM
There are 2 threads on the front page talking about it.

So it can't be posted here????