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Tombstone RJ
08-27-2012, 08:13 AM
who doesn't need an Ed Wang on their team? I'm baffled by this move, everyone needs a little Ed Wang Chung tonight...

Beantown Bronco
08-27-2012, 08:23 AM
who doesn't need an Ed Wang on their team? I'm baffled by this move, everyone needs a little Ed Wang Chung tonight...

Put him next to Eugene Chung (ex Patriot 1st round bust at OLine) on the bench and you'd have your wish.

Requiem
08-27-2012, 08:28 AM
Don't even see one player worth bringing in from the trash heap cuts listed. Clowney, for speed and return reasons, but I'm guessing if he was cut that he sucks da big one. Always impressed me at VT.

Beantown Bronco
08-27-2012, 08:29 AM
Wow. Pats just extended TE Hernandez for more "real" money than Gronk got:

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/extra_points/2012/08/hernandez_locke.html

Tombstone RJ
08-27-2012, 08:29 AM
Put him next to Eugene Chung (ex Patriot 1st round bust at OLine) on the bench and you'd have your wish.

Brilliant! ^5

Tombstone RJ
08-27-2012, 08:32 AM
Don't even see one player worth bringing in from the trash heap cuts listed. Clowney, for speed and return reasons, but I'm guessing if he was cut that he sucks da big one. Always impressed me at VT.

These guys are the ones who obviously suck, or are the vets like VY. The better guys won't get cut until the final round of cuts. Philly didn't cut one of their RBs and I seriously doubt they keep all 4 RBs.

Requiem
08-27-2012, 08:36 AM
Before Stewart (Carolina) got hurt, I was hoping maybe they'd cut one of their other backs so we could get them. Philly and Carolina have the goods at RB.

oubronco
08-27-2012, 08:36 AM
Patriots | Three players released (http://www.kffl.com/hotw/gnews.php?id=806306-patriots-three-players-released)
Mon, 27 Aug 2012 08:26:27 -0700
New England Patriots (http://www.kffl.com/team/24/nfl/new-england-patriots) DT Gerard Warren (http://www.kffl.com/player/441/nfl/gerard-warren), CB Ross Ventrone (http://www.kffl.com/player/23306/nfl/ross-ventrone) and FS Josh Barrett (http://www.kffl.com/player/18629/nfl/josh-barrett) have been released by the team.


Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz24lGStSJn

oubronco
08-27-2012, 08:47 AM
Wow. Pats just extended TE Hernandez for more "real" money than Gronk got:

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/extra_points/2012/08/hernandez_locke.html

Patriots | Aaron Hernandez contract details
Mon, 27 Aug 2012 08:35:17 -0700

New England Patriots TE Aaron Hernandez's five-year contract extension is worth $40 million with a $12.5 million signing bonus and $16.4 million guaranteed.


Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz24lIunx1C

Dendave
08-27-2012, 09:14 AM
The Detroit Lion released Kicker Derek Dimke, receivers Jarett Dillard and Terrence Toliver, fullback James Bryant, running back Stephfon Green, safety Sean Jones, guards Jacques McClendon and J.C. Oram, linebacker Slade Norris and defensive tackle Bobby Skinner

lonestar
08-27-2012, 09:19 AM
We all know that 24 other teams get to take players that are waived before we get to get them. So all the better cuts are going to wind up on NON playoff winning teams.

Just one more reason to lose that PIT playoff game instead of win it.

oubronco
08-27-2012, 09:32 AM
Saints | Make roster moves (http://www.kffl.com/hotw/gnews.php?id=806317-saints-make-roster-moves)
Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:23:42 -0700
The New Orleans Saints (http://www.kffl.com/team/25/nfl/new-orleans-saints) have released DT Remi Ayodele (http://www.kffl.com/player/14185/nfl/remi-ayodele), QB Luke McCown (http://www.kffl.com/player/9124/nfl/luke-mccown), TE Jake Byrne (http://www.kffl.com/player/26081/nfl/jake-byrne), WR Marques Clark (http://www.kffl.com/player/27180/nfl/marques-clark), OT Hutch Eckerson (http://www.kffl.com/player/27265/nfl/hutch-eckerson), OG Paul Fenaroli (http://www.kffl.com/player/25186/nfl/paul-fenaroli), C Brian Folkerts (http://www.kffl.com/player/26794/nfl/brian-folkerts), WR Kevin Hardy (http://www.kffl.com/player/513/nfl/kevin-hardy), CB Kamaal Mcllwain (http://www.kffl.com/player/27266/nfl/kamaal-mcllwain), DT Swanson Miller (http://www.kffl.com/player/23321/nfl/swanson-miller), WR Derek Moye (http://www.kffl.com/player/26037/nfl/derek-moye), CB Cord Parks (http://www.kffl.com/player/21291/nfl/cord-parks), DE Donavan Robinson (http://www.kffl.com/player/26716/nfl/donavan-robinson), LB Aaron Tevis (http://www.kffl.com/player/26802/nfl/aaron-tevis) and S Johnny Thomas (http://www.kffl.com/player/7011/nfl/johnny-thomas).


Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz24lUHlxSd

oubronco
08-27-2012, 09:32 AM
Giants | Waive 11 players (http://www.kffl.com/hotw/gnews.php?id=806313-giants-waive-11-players)
Mon, 27 Aug 2012 08:50:54 -0700
The New York Giants (http://www.kffl.com/team/26/nfl/new-york-giants) have waived TE Ryan Purvis (http://www.kffl.com/player/20971/nfl/ryan-purvis), DT Carlton Powell (http://www.kffl.com/player/18753/nfl/carlton-powell), DB Chris Horton (http://www.kffl.com/player/18695/nfl/chris-horton), WR Julian Talley (http://www.kffl.com/player/26791/nfl/julian-talley), WR Brandon Collins (http://www.kffl.com/player/26900/nfl/brandon-collins), TE Chris Hopkins (http://www.kffl.com/player/19215/nfl/chris-hopkins), CB Brandon Bing (http://www.kffl.com/player/25145/nfl/brandon-bing), FS JoJo Nicolas (http://www.kffl.com/player/26345/nfl/jojo-nicolas), RB Joe Martinek (http://www.kffl.com/player/26461/nfl/joe-martinek), OT Joel Reinders (http://www.kffl.com/player/23322/nfl/joel-reinders) and DT Oren Wilson (http://www.kffl.com/player/27264/nfl/oren-wilson).


Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz24lURxwyR

oubronco
08-27-2012, 09:56 AM
Lions | Release 10 players (http://www.kffl.com/hotw/gnews.php?id=806328-lions-release-10-players)
Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:50:42 -0700
The Detroit Lions (http://www.kffl.com/team/16/nfl/detroit-lions) will release PK Derek Dimke (http://www.kffl.com/player/25816/nfl/derek-dimke), FB James Bryant (http://www.kffl.com/player/26899/nfl/james-bryant), WR Jarett Dillard (http://www.kffl.com/player/20836/nfl/jarett-dillard), RB Stephfon Green (http://www.kffl.com/player/26432/nfl/stephfon-green), SS Sean Jones (http://www.kffl.com/player/9183/nfl/sean-jones), OG Jacques McClendon (http://www.kffl.com/player/22938/nfl/jacques-mcclendon), LB Slade Norris (http://www.kffl.com/player/21147/nfl/slade-norris), OG J.C. Oram (http://www.kffl.com/player/26515/nfl/j.c.-oram), DT Bobby Skinner (http://www.kffl.com/player/27230/nfl/bobby-skinner) and WR Terrence Toliver (http://www.kffl.com/player/24235/nfl/terrence-toliver).


Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz24laVHpbP

Tombstone RJ
08-27-2012, 09:57 AM
Carlton Powell has been release but the Gmen...

Kaylore
08-27-2012, 10:04 AM
Carlton Powell has been release but the Gmen...

Ah, Carlton Powell.

cmhargrove
08-27-2012, 10:18 AM
Not sure why the Cowboys released Levy Adcock, but that kid can play. He would make a great #2 swing tackle if given a year on the practice squad.

Much, much better than the Tackles and Guards on our second team O-line. The kid can play, and i'm not sure if he has been fighting injuries or what.

Requiem
08-27-2012, 11:26 AM
We all know that 24 other teams get to take players that are waived before we get to get them. So all the better cuts are going to wind up on NON playoff winning teams.

Just one more reason to lose that PIT playoff game instead of win it.

Dumb.

bronco militia
08-27-2012, 11:30 AM
wat the fudge?

cmhargrove
08-27-2012, 12:15 PM
Not sure why the Cowboys released Levy Adcock, but that kid can play. He would make a great #2 swing tackle if given a year on the practice squad.

Much, much better than the Tackles and Guards on our second team O-line. The kid can play, and i'm not sure if he has been fighting injuries or what.

SouthStndJunkie
08-27-2012, 12:38 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/27/mike-wallace-to-sign-tender-report-to-steelers-on-tuesday/

Mike Wallace to sign tender, report to Steelers on Tuesday

menonite
08-27-2012, 12:51 PM
Not sure why the Cowboys released Levy Adcock,

Is that what Chasity Bono is calling herself these days?

Requiem
08-27-2012, 12:54 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/27/mike-wallace-to-sign-tender-report-to-steelers-on-tuesday/

Mike Wallace to sign tender, report to Steelers on Tuesday

Because he's getting traded to the Miami Dolphins. :~ohyah!:

Bob's your Information Minister
08-27-2012, 02:17 PM
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/191071_448847605138156_628367814_o.jpg

bronco militia
08-27-2012, 02:18 PM
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/191071_448847605138156_628367814_o.jpg

POW POW!! :rofl:

SouthStndJunkie
08-27-2012, 07:02 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/27/jets-send-wayne-hunter-to-st-louis-for-jason-smith/

Jets send Wayne Hunter to St. Louis for Jason Smith

Tim
08-27-2012, 07:09 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/27/jets-send-wayne-hunter-to-st-louis-for-jason-smith/

Jets send Wayne Hunter to St. Louis for Jason Smith

that is a ryan leaf caliber bust.

bowtown
08-28-2012, 04:57 AM
We all know that 24 other teams get to take players that are waived before we get to get them. So all the better cuts are going to wind up on NON playoff winning teams.

Just one more reason to lose that PIT playoff game instead of win it.

You do understand that not all players pass through waivers, right?

SouthStndJunkie
08-28-2012, 11:37 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/redskins-release-chris-cooley/

Redskins release Chris Cooley

cmhargrove
08-28-2012, 11:39 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/redskins-release-chris-cooley/

Redskins release Chris Cooley

Insert gratuitous pic of Cooley's weenie here. Or don't.

2KBack
08-28-2012, 11:42 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/redskins-release-chris-cooley/

Redskins release Chris Cooley

Wow, I've always liked his game. One of the few Redskins I could stand

uplink
08-28-2012, 12:22 PM
speculation Lions may inquire about trade for Knowshon Moreno

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/report-lions-trying-to-trade-for-running-back/

Beantown Bronco
08-28-2012, 12:32 PM
speculation Lions may inquire about trade for Knowshon Moreno

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/report-lions-trying-to-trade-for-running-back/

Straight up for one of those young first round DLinemen. We might have to throw in a 6th to even it up, but I think we should do it. :)

lolcopter
08-28-2012, 12:35 PM
Straight up for one of those young first round DLinemen. We might have to throw in a 6th to even it up, but I think we should do it. :)

wtf u can't be serious

broncosteven
08-28-2012, 12:50 PM
speculation Lions may inquire about trade for Knowshon Moreno

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/report-lions-trying-to-trade-for-running-back/

Like trading for KM is going to solve their issues...

...wait! Yes Detroit Lions KM is the Answer to any question your asking just give us a low round pick and he will surely break off 2K...er 1K...mmmm maybe .900K in your system.

If nothing else all your Exercycles will get a full work out.

bronco militia
08-28-2012, 01:02 PM
Like trading for KM is going to solve their issues...

...wait! Yes Detroit Lions KM is the Answer to any question your asking just give us a low round pick and he will surely break off 2K...er 1K...mmmm maybe .900K in your system.

If nothing else all your Exercycles will get a full work out.

shhhhhhhhhhhhh! put on your poker face!! The Lions GM might be lurking!

Jekyll15Hyde
08-28-2012, 06:47 PM
Surprised there isnt more talk in here about Cooley. We have several TE already but with Jthomas not panning out, green about to suspended, and you know we will carry at least 3 guys...

cmhargrove
08-28-2012, 07:36 PM
Surprised there isnt more talk in here about Cooley. We have several TE already but with Jthomas not panning out, green about to suspended, and you know we will carry at least 3 guys...

Now we all know Shanahan loves a good pass catching TE and he has a young, inexperienced QB that needs short range targets. So why is Shanny dumping him? I think his injuries are mounting and he isn't what he used to be.

uplink
08-28-2012, 08:50 PM
So why is Shanny dumping him?

Maybe he doesn't measure up

Jekyll15Hyde
08-28-2012, 09:18 PM
Now we all know Shanahan loves a good pass catching TE and he has a young, inexperienced QB that needs short range targets. So why is Shanny dumping him? I think his injuries are mounting and he isn't what he used to be.

This article seems to indicate that this the classic veteran 1st cut to let him catch on somewhere else.

"Coach Mike Shanahan said the decision came down to a matter of playing time. Fred Davis, who had a breakout year in 2011, has emerged as the new starting tight end, relegating Cooley to utility duty as a backup at both fullback and tight end during preseason.
"He wants to start. He wants to play," Shanahan said. "And we'll see if he gets that opportunity.... Shanahan said Cooley's release wasn't about health or money.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8310808/washington-redskins-release-tight-end-chris-cooley

He was hurt a lot last year so I am not saying that isnt involved here. But if this is to be believed, then we should have a look. He can be our starting FB all day and, if healthy, pushes Tamme and Dreesen as a #1 TE as well

lolcopter
08-28-2012, 10:14 PM
Surprised there isnt more talk in here about Cooley. We have several TE already but with Jthomas not panning out, green about to suspended, and you know we will carry at least 3 guys...

He sucks and he is injured often

. He can be our starting FB all day and, if healthy, pushes Tamme and Dreesen as a #1 TE as well

lol no

SoCalBronco
08-28-2012, 10:16 PM
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/191071_448847605138156_628367814_o.jpg

:rofl:

Poor Bob, he's going through his own version of the McD era with Pioli over there.

colorado jones
08-28-2012, 10:33 PM
We all know that 24 other teams get to take players that are waived before we get to get them. So all the better cuts are going to wind up on NON playoff winning teams.

Just one more reason to lose that PIT playoff game instead of win it.

Are you part of the South Korean badminton team?

Jekyll15Hyde
08-28-2012, 10:38 PM
He sucks and he is injured often

Really? 2x Pro Bowl, 1x All Pro and in 5 of the past 7 years he has hauled in ~70-80 rec for 700-800 yards, all with nothing to speak of at QB. You and I must have different definitions of 'he sucks.' You dont think a QB like PFM who loves the TE could use him?

Now the 2 times he didnt hit those numbers, he was injured so I buy the injury concern. BUT, If the report is true that his release wasnt about injury, and that is a big if, then absolutely he can compete with Tamme and Dressen, neither of whom have had a pro bowl year yet.

ZONA
08-28-2012, 10:41 PM
We all know that 24 other teams get to take players that are waived before we get to get them. So all the better cuts are going to wind up on NON playoff winning teams.

Just one more reason to lose that PIT playoff game instead of win it.

Hard to tell if you are joking or not. I don't think you are being serious. What Broncos fan, or any fan for that matter, hopes his team loses a playoff game, or any game for that matter. The ONLY game you could even think about wishing to lose is if you were 1-13 or something and a loss would give your the 1st overall pick and somebody like Andrew Luck was sitting there waiting for you. But you're talking about losing a playoff game. That's insane dude. The only way you get one of these......
http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2010_01_25__06_43_59/VinceLombardi_Trophy_Prime_New.jpgcb1fb91d-a873-46be-8b77-44a3a84f026fSmall.jpg
.......is to WIN playoff games to reach the Superbowl. Cmon dude.

lolcopter
08-29-2012, 05:33 AM
Really? 2x Pro Bowl, 1x All Pro and in 5 of the past 7 years he has hauled in ~70-80 rec for 700-800 yards, all with nothing to speak of at QB. You and I must have different definitions of 'he sucks.' You dont think a QB like PFM who loves the TE could use him?

Now the 2 times he didnt hit those numbers, he was injured so I buy the injury concern. BUT, If the report is true that his release wasnt about injury, and that is a big if, then absolutely he can compete with Tamme and Dressen, neither of whom have had a pro bowl year yet.

Yeah all pro 7 YEARS AGO, and pro bowl is 07/08... big whoop

2KBack
08-29-2012, 06:09 AM
Yeah all pro 7 YEARS AGO, and pro bowl is 07/08... big whoop

Hey Smart guy, you do realize that he actually had an arguably better year in 2010 than in his last pro-bowl year, just didn't win the annual popularity contest. Beyond being a complete tight-end, he is considered a fantastic leader, teammate, and is incredible with the fans.

Educate yourself on a player before you make such in-depth analysis as "He sucks"

lolcopter
08-29-2012, 06:23 AM
Hey Smart guy, you do realize that he actually had an arguably better year in 2010 than in his last pro-bowl year, just didn't win the annual popularity contest. Beyond being a complete tight-end, he is considered a fantastic leader, teammate, and is incredible with the fans.

Educate yourself on a player before you make such in-depth analysis as "He sucks"

Sure thing bud. You left out that he only played 7 games in 09 and 5 games in 2011. 6 TDs in the last 4 years WOW(!)

Too old, too expensive, and not needed



And he also sucks

2KBack
08-29-2012, 06:37 AM
Sure thing bud. You left out that he only played 7 games in 09 and 5 games in 2011. 6 TDs in the last 4 years WOW(!)

Too old, too expensive, and not needed



And he also sucks

Too expensive? He doesn't have a freakin contract!

Too old? Aren't you the guy you freaked out about getting MJD because we are in win now mode? Because we have an All-pro QB who is Old, expensive, and was injured all of last year? Cooley is better than Tamme right now, Who has 5 CAREER TD's by the way. Dreesseen and Cooley are the same age and Dreesseen has never shown half the ability of Cooley.

Now....do you happen to have a rebuttal that involves facts or analysis?

Or are you going to stick with, he was hurt twice, and despite being a superior football player to both of our tight ends...he sucks?

lolcopter
08-29-2012, 06:42 AM
His last contract was for $3.8m. We just locked up Tamme and Dreessen for far less than that, but if you really think an oft-injured 30yo TE is needed for Peyton to run an efficient offense, then be my guest.

I don't think we need him, I don't want him. And in typical orange mane fashion, let's add some scrub but pass on truly elite talent at the RB position (because we're so stacked in that area too!)

Tamme lines up in the slot constantly and has history/rapport with Peyton, Dreessen is the inline blocker, and whoever the third TE we keep is, they'll be far cheaper than Cooley.

2KBack
08-29-2012, 06:50 AM
His last contract was for $3.8m. We just locked up Tamme and Dreessen for far less than that, but if you really think an oft-injured 30yo TE is needed for Peyton to run an efficient offense, then be my guest.

I don't think we need him, I don't want him. And in typical orange mane fashion, let's add some scrub but pass on truly elite talent at the RB position (because we're so stacked in that area too!)

and he got cut, you really think he is going to make 3.8 million?

If you can't see the difference between signing a probowl talent on the cheap (with no cost in draft picks or players) and trading away valuable resources for a top tier player that will want a top tier contract extension as well, not to mention based on the career spans of the 2 positions likely has the same number of effective years left in his career.... Then I don't know how to help you.

lolcopter
08-29-2012, 06:56 AM
There has been no indication the broncos are even interested in Cooley, so it doesn't really matter what any of us think

2KBack
08-29-2012, 07:12 AM
There has been no indication the broncos are even interested in Cooley, so it doesn't really matter what any of us think

Not in the grand scheme, but someone thought they would like to share that they thought Cooley would be a great cheap upgrade for us.

and then somebody apparently took offense and decided to dump on that player, yet without reasoned discussion.

They could have said....I would like to see how they guys we have perform. It's late in the preseason at this point, Cooley may not be a big enough upgrade to thrust him into the lineup without knowing the offense. Our current guys have a relationship with Manning now, I'd rather just stand pat.

lolcopter
08-29-2012, 07:23 AM
If this board wasnt so damn predictable about wanting subpar players added to the team maybe I would have chosen my words better. Next time I'll be sure to be more politically correct when dumping on a washed up TE who was cut by a crappy team with a rookie QB, lest everyone get their panties in a bunch

swaiy
08-29-2012, 08:26 AM
I think Cooley would be a waste. The injuries have slowed him down alot. The guy isn't a scrub though. He's accomplished alot more than every TE on our roster but I think we are pretty set at the position.

If we lost a guy due to injury I'd def say sign him but I'm betting Cooley retires. Dude looked pretty hurt in his press conference that he won't be a Redskin anymore.

DENVERDUI55
08-29-2012, 08:30 AM
I think Cooley would be a waste. The injuries have slowed him down alot. The guy isn't a scrub though. He's accomplished alot more than every TE on our roster but I think we are pretty set at the position.

If we lost a guy due to injury I'd def say sign him but I'm betting Cooley retires. Dude looked pretty hurt in his press conference that he won't be a Redskin anymore.

He would probably come to Denver because it's closer to his hometown and where he went to College. He could probably be a cheap bandaid. I'm surprised NE didnt' sign him yet.

lolcopter
08-29-2012, 08:32 AM
He would probably come to Denver because it's closer to his hometown and where he went to College. He could probably be a cheap bandaid. I'm surprised NE didnt' sign him yet.

They just gave huge contracts to their 2 studs they already have.. why would they want Cooley?

swaiy
08-29-2012, 08:35 AM
He would probably come to Denver because it's closer to his hometown and where he went to College. He could probably be a cheap bandaid. I'm surprised NE didnt' sign him yet.

It's possible. Football is unpredictable as hell. If it came down to it and we needed him, I'd be for it.

As for NE, I'm starting to think they sign people for ****s and gigs

2KBack
08-29-2012, 08:37 AM
He would probably come to Denver because it's closer to his hometown and where he went to College. He could probably be a cheap bandaid. I'm surprised NE didnt' sign him yet.

NE is stacked at that position, I don't see the draw for Cooley. I don't think he is a ring chaser. Honestly Swaiy may be right, Cooley was a Diehard Redskin, I could honestly see him retiring and working as a broadcaster locally.

DENVERDUI55
08-29-2012, 08:40 AM
NE is stacked at that position, I don't see the draw for Cooley. I don't think he is a ring chaser. Honestly Swaiy may be right, Cooley was a Diehard Redskin, I could honestly see him retiring and working as a broadcaster locally.

I was joking about NE but look at all the TE's they have signed.

2KBack
08-29-2012, 08:42 AM
I was joking about NE but look at all the TE's they have signed.

They do love tight ends...

...but who doesn't

broncocalijohn
08-29-2012, 09:17 AM
Hard to tell if you are joking or not. I don't think you are being serious. What Broncos fan, or any fan for that matter, hopes his team loses a playoff game, or any game for that matter. The ONLY game you could even think about wishing to lose is if you were 1-13 or something and a loss would give your the 1st overall pick and somebody like Andrew Luck was sitting there waiting for you. But you're talking about losing a playoff game. That's insane dude. The only way you get one of these......
http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2010_01_25__06_43_59/VinceLombardi_Trophy_Prime_New.jpgcb1fb91d-a873-46be-8b77-44a3a84f026fSmall.jpg
.......is to WIN playoff games to reach the Superbowl. Cmon dude.

Where were you when so called fans wanted to lose against the Vikings so we would end up 7-9 (we didnt know what subpar 8-8 was before this in a long time) and get a better Top 10 draft pick? Well, we ended up winning that game and picked #12. Instead of top 10 quality, we get that scrub Clady.

He was being serious. Our whole season was saved by that big victory. He is an idiot.

Drek
08-29-2012, 09:49 AM
If this board wasnt so damn predictable about wanting subpar players added to the team maybe I would have chosen my words better. Next time I'll be sure to be more politically correct when dumping on a washed up TE who was cut by a crappy team with a rookie QB, lest everyone get their panties in a bunch

Not posting like **** isn't being politically correct. It just requires using that lump of soft tissue positioned between your ears a bit more.

When you arguments against a guy are:
1. "he sucks" when in fact the guy has made a couple pro-bowls and when healthy has still been an effective all around TE.
2. "too old" at 30 years of age when all we need is one season out of him.
3. "too expensive" when he doesn't have a contract and is likely to sign for the vet minimum.

You aren't being politically incorrect. You're just incorrect, which is entirely a product of your own ignorance.

Tamme hasn't looked very good this pre-season at catching the ball and he's never been a good blocker. Virgil Green is out for 4 games to start the year due to his suspension. By most all accounts both Thomas and Ingram have looked like dog **** all camp and pre-season. So that leaves us Dreessen as the only healthy and well rounded TE we can even put on the field.

We need a 3rd TE while we wait for Green to get healthy anyway, why let Thomas or Ingram get the job by default when a vet FA signing has higher upside AND a higher floor?

Tombstone RJ
08-29-2012, 09:59 AM
They do love tight ends...

...but who doesn't

lol, you're a sick man.

canadianbroncosfan
08-29-2012, 10:04 AM
I wasn't too sure about Cooley however I have to say that Drek and 2Kback have swayed me on this, I actually wouldn't be opposed to it and think it has more upside then down.

As for will it happen? Well probably not but there's also a 21 page thread about the unlikely possibility that MJD signs here. Is it the typical Mane? Yes, absolutely. And that's not a bad thing. I come here to read and write about football. This whole Cooley conversation has actually made some good points about how weak our Denver Broncos, the team we come here to discuss, may actually be at TE.

lolcopter
08-29-2012, 10:12 AM
Tamme has a bad preseason, he's worthless. Cooley has no preseason, let's sign him!

Knee injuries be damned! Who cares if he was only relegated to a blocking FB while still with the Skins? He was cut and will be lucky to be picked up by ANY team at this point.

Get off Cooley's jock, he is done, and would not make any worthwhile contribution to this team that would warrant a roster spot.

Rabb
08-29-2012, 10:42 AM
Tamme has a bad preseason, he's worthless. Cooley has no preseason, let's sign him!

Knee injuries be damned! Who cares if he was only relegated to a blocking FB while still with the Skins? He was cut and will be lucky to be picked up by ANY team at this point.

Get off Cooley's jock, he is done, and would not make any worthwhile contribution to this team that would warrant a roster spot.

I don't really have a take on the Cooley deal one way or another, but we signed Keith ****ing Brooking who has yet to do anything in the preseason yet...I am not sure he has even had a practice.

Your argument is invalid.

Drunken.Broncoholic
08-29-2012, 10:45 AM
I dont understand the fascination with obsessing over every player that gets cut should become a bronco. The percentages that we even get any of these players is minimal to zero.

lolcopter
08-29-2012, 10:46 AM
I don't really have a take on the Cooley deal one way or another, but we signed Keith ****ing Brooking who has yet to do anything in the preseason yet...I am not sure he has even had a practice.

Your argument is invalid.

Fair enough. I wouldn't be against signing Cooley, I just don't see it happening and I don't get the big draw to him that maners seem to have. Both him and Brooking would be lucky to make the final roster imo

Rabb
08-29-2012, 10:49 AM
Fair enough. I wouldn't be against signing Cooley, I just don't see it happening and I don't get the big draw to him that maners seem to have. Both him and Brooking would be lucky to make the final roster imo

I would rather just keep someone like Thomas and work on developing him myself, so I tend to agree with you.

We do have this amazing fascination with signing any free player though, it's awesome.

swaiy
08-29-2012, 10:55 AM
I can see why the Redskins cut him. You don't pay $4M to a TE that's 2nd string but when you look at their depth, they look stupid.

Niles Paul was a WR coming out of college and they're trying to make him a TE. Apparently he's not doing well and they're trying to transition him to FB. Logan Paulsen? Dude is pretty much a blocking TE and Richard Quinn? Hilarious!

Now that i think about it, they had the 2nd pick in the draft. Maybe they'll pick up a TE on the waivers because as it stands, they probably would have been better off trying to restructure Cooley.

dictionary
08-29-2012, 11:03 AM
I can see why the Redskins cut him. You don't pay $4M to a TE that's 2nd string but when you look at their depth, they look stupid.

Niles Paul was a WR coming out of college and they're trying to make him a TE. Apparently he's not doing well and they're trying to transition him to FB. Logan Paulsen? Dude is pretty much a blocking TE and Richard Quinn? Hilarious!

Now that i think about it, they had the 2nd pick in the draft. Maybe they'll pick up a TE on the waivers because as it stands, they probably would have been better off trying to restructure Cooley.

I honestly wouldnt be surprised to see Shanny swipe a blocking TE and possibly some linemen from us for depth.

Jekyll15Hyde
08-29-2012, 11:21 AM
I dont understand the fascination with obsessing over every player that gets cut should become a bronco. The percentages that we even get any of these players is minimal to zero.

Its not every player. When there is a decent player cut a position that is generally regarded as one where we are lacking depth, we SHOULD be talking about it.

Gaffney is a good example since the WR depth is sparse after #2.
Same thing is going to be done if we see any decent LBs cut.
I came into this season thinking TE was in great shape but now I am not so sure. Tamme hasn't shown much and make you wonder if his single good season was an apparition. Dreessen was always going to be more in the blocking role relative to the other TEs. Julius Thomas likley is getting cut. Green has some potential but has a suspension. And Ingram hasnt shown enough yet and could likely be PS material. So for a QB like PFM who really likes to use the TE, why wouldnt it be smart to take a look. Downside is you get a guy who is hurt and you cut him and bring up Ingram/Thomas from the PS. Upside is you get the Cooley that has been one of the better pass catching TEs over the past several years, all while never having much at QB. That is a very palatable risk/reward scenario to me.

This is the time of the year where there are those veterans in the 1st cuts where the teams are trying to do them a favor to catch on somewhere else so these next few days are the peak of this.

But I agree that its unlikely we get any of them. If we do, I suspect its at WR, LB or TE. And maybe an outside shot of a veteran to replace Hanie.

lonestar
08-29-2012, 01:39 PM
Hard to tell if you are joking or not. I don't think you are being serious. What Broncos fan, or any fan for that matter, hopes his team loses a playoff game, or any game for that matter. The ONLY game you could even think about wishing to lose is if you were 1-13 or something and a loss would give your the 1st overall pick and somebody like Andrew Luck was sitting there waiting for you. But you're talking about losing a playoff game. That's insane dude. The only way you get one of these......
http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_2010_01_25__06_43_59/VinceLombardi_Trophy_Prime_New.jpgcb1fb91d-a873-46be-8b77-44a3a84f026fSmall.jpg
.......is to WIN playoff games to reach the Superbowl. Cmon dude.

Actually serious as a heart attack..

Had we been in a position to win the next week and we all know we were not then losing the game would have gotten us at least 8 earlier picks in each round.

Ifmyounreallynthink we had a chance to want e Super Bowl with Tebow and this team then trying to explain logic will be over your head..

I'd love to win playoff games IF it leads to going to the Super Bowl.

But alas We played a real team the next week that was unlike PIT that was at about half staff when they hit the third quarter..

I really dislike getting my ass handed to us in the playoffs and Just maybe this team this year will be able to do more,(barring injuries ) but as much as I loved seeing the Broncos play and win that was a hollow at best win and I suspect when the steelers come to play this year they will show their true colors.

I'd have rather lost a close playoff game to PIT and drafted earlier as well as not pissed them off for our opener.

I'm one of those fans that is looking for long term goals not a hollow cheap victory.

swaiy
08-29-2012, 01:47 PM
If we lost to the Steelers and they lost to the Patriots, would Pittsburgh have drafted in our spot and us in their's?

lonestar
08-29-2012, 01:49 PM
Where were you when so called fans wanted to lose against the Vikings so we would end up 7-9 (we didnt know what subpar 8-8 was before this in a long time) and get a better Top 10 draft pick? Well, we ended up winning that game and picked #12. Instead of top 10 quality, we get that scrub Clady.

He was being serious. Our whole season was saved by that big victory. He is an idiot.

Frankly if you think our whole season was bed by a cheap win over a team that had about half their starters in the game near the end then I feel for you..

I've seen this team play for going on 52 years now and beating them in OT while it felt good at the moment it was not worth losing draft choices 8 or more and the upcoming ass kicking they will bring on opening day..
At hat is a proud team and knowing that DEN knocked them outof the playoffs. Gonna be a long day for you..
We will see who the idiot is at that point..

Hell we will not have at least two of our big guns on opening day due to injury and stupidity. :thumbs:

lonestar
08-29-2012, 01:50 PM
If we lost to the Steelers and they lost to the Patriots, would Pittsburgh have drafted in our spot and us in their's?

We would have drafted with the 8-8 teams rotating with them and then PIT would have been drafting where we did..

swaiy
08-29-2012, 01:52 PM
I guess it doesn't matter. No one in the NFL gets paid to lose games to have a better draft position.

I think it worked in our favor to win a playoff game with a RB playing QB. I don't think PM would have came here if this team looked like total ass.

They got that far without a QB so I'm dying to see what they do with a HOF one.

lonestar
08-29-2012, 01:54 PM
I dont understand the fascination with obsessing over every player that gets cut should become a bronco. The percentages that we even get any of these players is minimal to zero.

Nothing pisses me off more than seeing a thread for every schmuck that gets cut with someone hyping the hell out of them like it would be a sure thing..

Most forget that they go through waivers and We would get them after 24 othe teams passes on them..

pricejj
08-29-2012, 01:56 PM
We would have drafted with the 8-8 teams rotating with them and then PIT would have been drafting where we did..

Correct me if I'm wrong, but instead of drafting #25 and #57, we would have drafted #24 and #56...in which we would have ended up with exactly the same draft picks (after trades).

No change...glad we won. The Tebow/DT OT touchdown was one of the greatest moments in Bronco history.

pricejj
08-29-2012, 01:59 PM
the upcoming ass kicking they will bring on opening day..



You think the Steelers are mad, and they're going to beat the Broncos on opening day, huh? I only have one thing to say to you...










GO BRONCOS!!!!

2KBack
08-29-2012, 02:00 PM
Nothing pisses me off more than seeing a thread for every schmuck that gets cut with someone hyping the hell out of them like it would be a sure thing..

Most forget that they go through waivers and We would get them after 24 othe teams passes on them..

Apparently some forget that any player that has been in the league at least 4 years doesn't go through waivers

swaiy
08-29-2012, 02:09 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but instead of drafting #25 and #57, we would have drafted #24 and #56...in which we would have ended up with exactly the same draft picks (after trades).

No change...glad we won. The Tebow/DT OT touchdown was one of the greatest moments in Bronco history.

That's the impression I was under.

Also, I don't care what draft positions were on the line. Who in the hell HOPES their team loses, period.

lonestar
08-29-2012, 02:10 PM
Its not every player. When there is a decent player cut a position that is generally regarded as one where we are lacking depth, we SHOULD be talking about it.

Gaffney is a good example since the WR depth is sparse after #2.
Same thing is going to be done if we see any decent LBs cut.
I came into this season thinking TE was in great shape but now I am not so sure. Tamme hasn't shown much and make you wonder if his single good season was an apparition. Dreessen was always going to be more in the blocking role relative to the other TEs. Julius Thomas likley is getting cut. Green has some potential but has a suspension. And Ingram hasnt shown enough yet and could likely be PS material. So for a QB like PFM who really likes to use the TE, why wouldnt it be smart to take a look. Downside is you get a guy who is hurt and you cut him and bring up Ingram/Thomas from the PS. Upside is you get the Cooley that has been one of the better pass catching TEs over the past several years, all while never having much at QB. That is a very palatable risk/reward scenario to me.

This is the time of the year where there are those veterans in the 1st cuts where the teams are trying to do them a favor to catch on somewhere else so these next few days are the peak of this.

But I agree that its unlikely we get any of them. If we do, I suspect its at WR, LB or TE. And maybe an outside shot of a veteran to replace Hanie.
Good logic. For the most part..
But think in this manner..

24 other teams have to pass on him before we would get him and IF we did then we would be on the hook for s contract as it stands..

Therefore more likely he will clear waivers and then try and make a deal with his best deal..

Most likely NOT in DEN because of the money crunch if they have any hope of tryiing to sign Clady this year..

2KBack
08-29-2012, 02:17 PM
Good logic. For the most part..
But think in this manner..

24 other teams have to pass on him before we would get him and IF we did then we would be on the hook for s contract as it stands..

Therefore more likely he will clear waivers and then try and make a deal with his best deal..

Most likely NOT in DEN because of the money crunch if they have any hope of tryiing to sign Clady this year..

If you are talking about Cooley, he does not have to clear waivers. You have kept mentioning this...please see below

Player with 3 or fewer years in the league = Waived, must pass through waivers

Player with 4 or more years in league= Released, contract eliminated, free agent

You don't think that Manning went through waivers do you?

swaiy
08-29-2012, 02:18 PM
Apparently some forget that any player that has been in the league at least 4 years doesn't go through waivers

Just quoting this because people keep overlooking it.

lonestar
08-29-2012, 02:20 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but instead of drafting #25 and #57, we would have drafted #24 and #56...in which we would have ended up with exactly the same draft picks (after trades).

No change...glad we won. The Tebow/DT OT touchdown was one of the greatest moments in Bronco history.

No we would have drafted After the jets at #17 IIRC. And then rotaed with the other 8-8 teams between 13 and 21. For the rest of the draft..
http://www.nfl.com/standings?category=league&season=2011-REG&split=Overall
Yes that was one of the greatest pass in history but because of that we paid a price..

IMO not worth the win.. Considering the ass kicking we took the next week because that was not a playoff team..

swaiy
08-29-2012, 02:21 PM
If you are talking about Cooley, he does not have to clear waivers. You have kept mentioning this...please see below

Player with 3 or fewer years in the league = Waived, must pass through waivers

Player with 4 or more years in league= Released, contract eliminated, free agent

You don't think that Manning went through waivers do you?

I think he meant Gaffney but, you're still right. Gaff been playing forever lol

pricejj
08-29-2012, 02:26 PM
That's the impression I was under.

Also, I don't care what draft positions were on the line. Who in the hell HOPES their team loses, period.

After looking at it, we would have been drafting #21 and #53, taking the place of the Bengals, with the worst record out of the teams who lost in the first round of the playoffs.

#21: The Patriots probably would have wanted to trade with us to get Chandler Jones at #21...in which case, we would have traded down in order to draft Derek Wolfe. I suppose there is a chance we would have drafted Brandon Weeden, but doubtful (we would have passed on Reiff and Decastro).

#53: We would have a choice between Devon Still, Ryan Broyles, Peter Konz, and Mike Adams. Would we have drafted Konz instead of Osweiler? Possibly, and that would be pretty sweet...but it sounds like Osweiler was the Broncos target, because we needed a back-up QB.

swaiy
08-29-2012, 02:26 PM
Frankly if you think our whole season was bed by a cheap win over a team that had about half their starters in the game near the end then I feel for you..


You keep saying that. Is every win that a team gets over another team with injuries considered a cheap win?

Jekyll15Hyde
08-29-2012, 02:27 PM
Good logic. For the most part..
But think in this manner..

24 other teams have to pass on him before we would get him and IF we did then we would be on the hook for s contract as it stands..

Therefore more likely he will clear waivers and then try and make a deal with his best deal..

Most likely NOT in DEN because of the money crunch if they have any hope of tryiing to sign Clady this year..

As 2KBack pointed out, I am generally talking about veteran players here so no waivers. Remember, there is no plan B. And I think the allure of playing on a team with PFM that they think they could bolster is a major reason why said example player would have Denver on the short list and maybe even take a slightly lesser contract.

The only 2 cuts that have caught my attention are Gaffney and Cooley. I will be very interested to see what shows up at LB.

pricejj
08-29-2012, 02:28 PM
No we would have drafted After the jets at #17 IIRC. And then rotaed with the other 8-8 teams between 13 and 21. For the rest of the draft..


Not true man, ALL playoff teams draft later than teams who didn't make the playoffs...no matter their record.

We probably would have ended up with the same players...Wolfe and Osweiler.

lonestar
08-29-2012, 02:32 PM
After looking at it, we would have been drafting #21 and #53, taking the place of the Bengals, with the worst record out of the teams who lost in the first round of the playoffs.

#21: The Patriots probably would have wanted to trade with us to get Chandler Jones at #21...in which case, we would have traded down in order to draft Derek Wolfe. I suppose there is a chance we would have drafted Brandon Weeden, but doubtful (we would have passed on Reiff and Decastro).

#53: We would have a choice between Devon Still, Ryan Broyles, Peter Konz, and Mike Adams. Would we have drafted Konz instead of Osweiler? Possibly, and that would be pretty sweet...but it sounds like Osweiler was the Broncos target, because we needed a back-up QB.
Look again

http://www.nfl.com/standings?category=league&season=2011-REG&split=Overall.

Number 17. And not sure about draft pick #2. As it moves around with tied teams..

lonestar
08-29-2012, 02:36 PM
If you are talking about Cooley, he does not have to clear waivers. You have kept mentioning this...please see below

Player with 3 or fewer years in the league = Waived, must pass through waivers

Player with 4 or more years in league= Released, contract eliminated, free agent

You don't think that Manning went through waivers do you?

Thanks was not aware of the new CBA. As for manning pretty sure he would have cleared waivers considering his injury and price tag..

I know I would not have taken him off waivers without knowing for sure he was fixed..

lonestar
08-29-2012, 02:42 PM
You keep saying that. Is every win that a team gets over another team with injuries considered a cheap win?

Actually yes. Not that I would not normally take one. But considering that everyone was excited about winning the game with about half of their starters not able to play IMO that is a cheap win and if I'm in the playoffs I'd like the wins to be legit.. Considering the next game coming up.. I'd like my team KNOWING they beat the best and knowing they could play with the big boys.. something we have not done since John retired..

But that is just me.. A player down here and there that is wear and tear.. Almost half the starters not according to Hoyle.

pricejj
08-29-2012, 02:44 PM
Look again


"The selection order is based on each team's win-loss record in the previous season and whether the team reached the playoffs. Teams that did not reach the playoffs the previous season are ranked in reverse order of their records (so the team with the fewest wins is awarded the first selection). "

Non-playoff teams: 1–20
Eliminated in Wild Card round: 21–24
Eliminated in Divisional round: 25–28
Eliminated in Conference Championships: 29–30
Super Bowl losing team: 31
Super Bowl champion: 32

If the Giants would have lost the Superbowl, they would have picked #31...not where the other 9-7 teams picked...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_Draft#Rules_for_determini ng_draft_order (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_Draft#Rules_for_determini ng_draft_order)

lonestar
08-29-2012, 02:47 PM
"The selection order is based on each team's win-loss record in the previous season and whether the team reached the playoffs. Teams that did not reach the playoffs the previous season are ranked in reverse order of their records (so the team with the fewest wins is awarded the first selection). "

Non-playoff teams: 1–20
Eliminated in Wild Card round: 21–24
Eliminated in Divisional round: 25–28
Eliminated in Conference Championships: 29–30
Super Bowl losing team: 31
Super Bowl champion: 32

If the Giants would have lost the Superbowl, they would have picked #31...not where the other 9-7 teams picked...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_Draft#Rules_for_determini ng_draft_order (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_Draft#Rules_for_determini ng_draft_order)


Thanks. I was told regardless of playoffs or not because we won we slipped from the rankings. To where we were..

Losing 8 slots..

I'd still like to see the rule in something that has more cred's than wiki.

pricejj
08-29-2012, 02:48 PM
...

It wasn't a cheap win, it was a top 10 moment in Broncos History.

Don't worry, after we kick the pee out of the Steelers in the opener, it will be all worth it.


If the Broncos didn't beat the Steelers in the playoffs, Manning probably wouldn't have picked us, because he would have thought we were too far away from winning the Superbowl. It's all good, my friend, GO BRONCOS!!

lonestar
08-29-2012, 02:58 PM
It wasn't a cheap win, it was a top 10 moment in Broncos History.

Don't worry, after we kick the pee out of the Steelers in the opener, it will be all worth it.


If the Broncos didn't beat the Steelers in the playoffs, Manning probably wouldn't have picked us, because he would have thought we were too far away from winning the Superbowl. It's all good, my friend, GO BRONCOS!!

If that was the reason he picked us of SFO then he is dumber than dirt..

pricejj
08-29-2012, 03:01 PM
If that was the reason he picked us of SFO then he is dumber than dirt..

It had to factor in. Without the playoff win, I don't think we're in the equation...kinda like the Chiefs. I don't think he picked SF because Eli's in the NFC. Manning could have ended up in Houston or Tennessee.

oubronco
08-29-2012, 06:19 PM
Bengals sign former Buccaneers center Jeff Faine (http://profootball.scout.com/2/1216050.html)

Faine is a 10-year veteran who has 117 career starts, including stints with the Cleveland Browns (http://cle.scout.com/), New Orleans Saints (http://nor.scout.com/) and Tampa Bay

Is he any good? If so wonder if the Broncos even looked his way

errand
08-29-2012, 08:06 PM
I dont understand the fascination with obsessing over every player that gets cut should become a bronco. The percentages that we even get any of these players is minimal to zero.


What's even funnier was the bruhaha over whether or not the Broncos should try and land Manning.....some of clowns that thought it was stupid to try or even inquire about his interest to play for us are now clamoring for every stiff cut by some other team.

As for Cooley, he may or may not be past his prime or even any good...but if he can't play for the Redskins who finished 5-11 and in last place in their division, then what makes you think he can play here?

Jekyll15Hyde
08-29-2012, 08:14 PM
What's even funnier was the bruhaha over whether or not the Broncos should try and land Manning.....some of clowns that thought it was stupid to try or even acquire about his interest to play for us are now clamoring for every stiff cut by some other team.

As for Cooley, he may or may not be past his prime or even any good...but if he can't play for the Redskins who finished 5-11 and in last place in their division, then what makes you think he can play here?

Its a question of what you believe... Is he injured? If yes, then pass... But if the reports are true that he wanted a starting role, and he really is healthy, I see no reason why he cant compete with Tamme

errand
08-29-2012, 08:15 PM
That's the impression I was under.

Also, I don't care what draft positions were on the line. Who in the hell HOPES their team loses, period.

Exactly...regardless of how you feel about the coach, FO, certain players, etc....I cannot fathom anyone hoping we'd lose a game. Now they might predict we'll lose one...but surely never hope to lose one.

errand
08-29-2012, 08:18 PM
If you are talking about Cooley, he does not have to clear waivers. You have kept mentioning this...please see below

Player with 3 or fewer years in the league = Waived, must pass through waivers

Player with 4 or more years in league= Released, contract eliminated, free agent

You don't think that Manning went through waivers do you?

Orton has spent more than 4 years in NFL, and was waived this past season....and he was claimed by KC....or is your post about just during the offseason?

Ok on edit I found this...

As of 2008, according to the NFL collective bargaining agreement, if any waiver of a veteran player who has completed the season that gives him four years of service occurs between February 1 and the trading deadline in mid October, then that player shall be considered an unrestricted free agent by termination of his contract.

This must mean that if you're released between the trading deadline in mid October and February 1st, then you must clear waivers...

Beantown Bronco
08-30-2012, 05:25 AM
This must mean that if you're released between the trading deadline in mid October and February 1st, then you must clear waivers...

Yes. Because they don't want any shenanigans during the season where poor teams dump players at the end of the year and the playoff teams put together dream teams for their playoff runs.

SouthStndJunkie
08-30-2012, 03:05 PM
The NFL has suspended Titans wide receiver Kenny Britt for one game, the Tennessean reported Thursday.

swaiy
08-30-2012, 03:27 PM
Kenny Britt has been in trouble so many times. How in the hell did he just get 1 game?

I wonder what he'll get if convicted on that DUI

SouthStndJunkie
08-31-2012, 01:37 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/31/cardinals-choose-john-skelton-to-start-opener-over-kevin-kolb/

Cardinals choose John Skelton to start opener over Kevin Kolb

lonestar
08-31-2012, 02:11 PM
It had to factor in. Without the playoff win, I don't think we're in the equation...kinda like the Chiefs. I don't think he picked SF because Eli's in the NFC. Manning could have ended up in Houston or Tennessee.

Ok I can understand not wanting to pay your brother in the playoffs but is playing against him in the super bowl any better?

Tombstone RJ
08-31-2012, 02:13 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/31/cardinals-choose-john-skelton-to-start-opener-over-kevin-kolb/

Cardinals choose John Skelton to start opener over Kevin Kolb

I bet the cards FO is feeling real good about paying Kolb a lot of money to warm the bench...

SouthStndJunkie
09-01-2012, 03:41 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/01/seahawks-release-kellen-winslow/

Seahawks release Kellen Winslow

SouthStndJunkie
09-02-2012, 08:50 AM
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Jacksonville Jaguars running back Maurice Jones-Drew has ended his 38-day holdout -- without a new contract.

Broncos_OTM
09-02-2012, 11:50 AM
ouch that had to have hurt

lolcopter
09-02-2012, 01:13 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/01/seahawks-release-kellen-winslow/

Seahawks release Kellen Winslow

Wheres the thread for us to pick him up?

R8R H8R
09-02-2012, 01:28 PM
Wheres the thread for us to pick him up?

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=105614&highlight=kellen+winslow

:~ohyah!:

lonestar
09-02-2012, 01:31 PM
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Jacksonville Jaguars running back Maurice Jones-Drew has ended his 38-day holdout -- without a new contract.

All those morons pissing and moaning about him coming here are going to be heart broken.

menonite
09-02-2012, 01:35 PM
All those morons pissing and moaning about him coming here are going to be heart broken.


Shanahan's behind this - I just know it!

lolcopter
09-02-2012, 01:43 PM
All those morons pissing and moaning about him coming here are going to be heart broken.

Not really, by you'd have to be a moron to not want a top 5 RB added to the roster



Oh wait, let's add some TEs who just got cut instead

IA-Broncosfan53
09-02-2012, 01:46 PM
ProFootballTalk just tweeted Ryan Harris was signed today by the Texans to their active roster. Kubiak sure loves his ex-Bronco has beens. I wonder if they regret parting ways with Eric Winston?

lonestar
09-02-2012, 02:17 PM
Not really, by you'd have to be a moron to not want a top 5 RB added to the roster



Oh wait, let's add some TEs who just got cut instead

This is counter productive IMO. Once again this is a passing league and while he would give us the ability to run so does mc gahee, and our other RBs.
Read this the other day and it made more sense than anything else comparison of number of carries between him and TD.

So you're looking at around $20M or more in guarantees, plus a high draft choice, all for a 27-year-old back with 1,762 touches on his tires. If you're wondering, Terrell Davis logged 1,824 touches in his entire career.


Not even mention what JAC would get in return.. Way to much to pay for a guy that has that many miles on his legs and knees..

But then if your a democratic spending someone elses money comes easy for y'all.
http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/broncos/entry/why-pursuing-mjd-would-make-no-sense-for-the-broncos

lonestar
09-02-2012, 02:19 PM
ProFootballTalk just tweeted Ryan Harris was signed today by the Texans to their active roster. Kubiak sure loves his ex-Bronco has beens. I wonder if they regret parting ways with Eric Winston?

Your were correct HAS BEEN. If it was not for the ZBS he would have been a never was..

lolcopter
09-02-2012, 02:29 PM
But then if your a democratic spending someone elses money comes easy for y'all.

wtf are you talking about

That One Guy
09-02-2012, 03:10 PM
We should get a new one for this season. This thread is a beast.

swaiy
09-02-2012, 03:46 PM
Here comes the politics... Smh.

menonite
09-02-2012, 03:57 PM
The Whigs shall rise again!

Chris
09-02-2012, 04:44 PM
We should get a new one for this season. This thread is a beast.

Started on my 24th birthday... I'm almost 28.

Jetland
09-03-2012, 02:20 AM
This is counter productive IMO. Once again this is a passing league and while he would give us the ability to run so does mc gahee, and our other RBs.
Read this the other day and it made more sense than anything else comparison of number of carries between him and TD.



Not even mention what JAC would get in return.. Way to much to pay for a guy that has that many miles on his legs and knees..

But then if your a democratic spending someone elses money comes easy for y'all.
http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/broncos/entry/why-pursuing-mjd-would-make-no-sense-for-the-broncos

I would like to second the what the hell are you talking about?

Bmore Manning
09-03-2012, 10:00 AM
Chicago cut Brian Price..

DBroncos4life
09-03-2012, 10:23 AM
Chicago cut Brian Price..

I didn't even know he was traded from the Bucs. What a bust.

Dexter
09-03-2012, 10:26 AM
I didn't even know he was traded from the Bucs. What a bust.

May want to cut him a little bit of slack. I wouldn't claim him, and he hasn't been an all-star or anything but I feel bad for him personally:

From Rotoworld:

Bears waived DT Brian Price.
Per FOX Sports' Jay Glazer, Price's release is due in part to his struggle to "get past the recent passing of his sister." Price's sister was killed in a May automobile accident. Acquired from the Bucs in July, Price is just two years removed from being a second-round pick. He drew the ire of former coach Raheem Morris during the Bucs' embarrassing 2011 collapse, however, and wasn't a fit for hard-nosed rookie coach Greg Schiano. It's an ominous sign that Bears defensive coordinator Rod Marinelli couldn't turn Price around, either. He'll surely resurface, but time away from the game might do Price well.

DBroncos4life
09-03-2012, 10:31 AM
May want to cut him a little bit of slack. I wouldn't claim him, and he hasn't been an all-star or anything but I feel bad for him personally:

From Rotoworld:

Bears waived DT Brian Price.
Per FOX Sports' Jay Glazer, Price's release is due in part to his struggle to "get past the recent passing of his sister." Price's sister was killed in a May automobile accident. Acquired from the Bucs in July, Price is just two years removed from being a second-round pick. He drew the ire of former coach Raheem Morris during the Bucs' embarrassing 2011 collapse, however, and wasn't a fit for hard-nosed rookie coach Greg Schiano. It's an ominous sign that Bears defensive coordinator Rod Marinelli couldn't turn Price around, either. He'll surely resurface, but time away from the game might do Price well.
He had leg and head injuries too. I'm just saying for a guy that was a 2nd round steal, he looks the part of a bust.

Dexter
09-03-2012, 11:34 AM
He had leg and head injuries too. I'm just saying for a guy that was a 2nd round steal, he looks the part of a bust.

Yeah I know what you're saying. With guys like this, if he ever gets healthy, and is given another chance, he may be able to turn it on.

Bmore Manning
09-03-2012, 06:13 PM
Price has had some unfortunate bad luck and tragic events plague his young career.. I would sign him to the practice squad.

DBroncos4life
09-03-2012, 06:24 PM
Price has had some unfortunate bad luck and tragic events plague his young career.. I would sign him to the practice squad.

If he would go for it I would agree but, I doubt he would.

SouthStndJunkie
09-03-2012, 07:03 PM
A couple of nice articles on Russell Wilson:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/russell-wilson-aims-for-greatness/

Russell Wilson aims for greatness

http://seattle.sbnation.com/2012/9/2/3287187/russell-wilson-looks-to-emulate-peyton-mannings-off-field-work-ethic

Russell Wilson Looks To Emulate Peyton Manning's Off Field Work Ethic

When you're looking to become a (successful) outlier - as 5'10 5/8" Russell Wilson would be as a quarterback in the NFL - work ethic and study habits become extremely important. It's clear that athletic prowess alone probably cannot make the difference for Wilson, who will try and become the only sub-six-foot quarterback in the NFL's current era that achieves sustained success. There have been a six-footer here and there that breaks the mold - Michael Vick and his transcendent and unequaled athleticism and ridiculously strong arm, and Drew Brees with his masterful footwork in the pocket to go with his elite accuracy. Wilson isn't hoping his physical ability alone can help him break the "NFL QB" mold. He's hoping an uncommon, unrivaled work ethic can.

Per Dan Pompei's NFP Sunday Blitz column, Pompei notes that "Russell Wilson was not handed the Seahawks starting job. I'm told in July he often was the only football person at the Seahawks facility, as he showed up every day at 6:30 a.m. to watch tape. Wilson has a little Peyton Manning in him. In fact, he consulted with Manning before the draft, as well as Eli Manning, Drew Brees and Philip Rivers. Wilson also visited with Colts quarterback coach Clyde Christensen, who previously coached Peyton Manning. Christensen shared Peyton's notes with Wilson, and they were similar to the kind of notes Wilson takes. Wilson keeps a diary of every practice on an Excel worksheet."

This goes right along with something that Pete Carroll said back in July when he said that Wilson was 'outworking everyone in the program.' Wilson will need to know every opposing defense's weakness, their starters and backups, their strategic tendencies based on personnel groups, their bad habits, and their strengths. Not only that, he tracks his own play very closely, tweaking and improving and setting new goals to eliminate mistakes. He's a worker.

gyldenlove
09-03-2012, 07:43 PM
This is counter productive IMO. Once again this is a passing league and while he would give us the ability to run so does mc gahee, and our other RBs.
Read this the other day and it made more sense than anything else comparison of number of carries between him and TD.



Not even mention what JAC would get in return.. Way to much to pay for a guy that has that many miles on his legs and knees..

But then if your a democratic spending someone elses money comes easy for y'all.
http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/broncos/entry/why-pursuing-mjd-would-make-no-sense-for-the-broncos

He has less than 1500 carries, he has only 3 years with more than 200 carries.

Mcgahee has 1800 carries and 5 years with over 200 carries, Adrian Peterson has 1400 carries and 5 years over 200 carries, Chris Johnson has 1200 carries and 4 years over 200 carries, Frank Gore 1650 carries and 6 years over 200 carries.

Jones-Drew has more treads on his tires than most good or great RBs in the league currently, he hasn't had any significant injuries in the last 3 years despite being the bellcow.

If we apply the same logic that Mr. Douglas Lee is using to argue against MJD, we should never have gotten Manning - no QB has won a super bowl after switching teams in his mid 30s, most super bowls are won by QBs in the their 30s and by QBs who are with their first NFL team. The 20 million per year for a player who has missed an entire season of football is just too much money compared to how little we had to pay Tebow. Tebow would be cheaper and we should surely give him a chance to show what he can do, the same way Ronnie Hillman now deserves a chance.

20 million in guarantees, seems reasonable to me if he can play for another 3 seasons that is less than 7 million per year in guarantees plus some salary for one of, if not the best RB in the league - being elite costs money. For ****s and giggles we are paying Champ Bailey more than 10 million per year despite his age and recent injuries, elite talent is worth the money.

lonestar
09-04-2012, 02:06 AM
He has less than 1500 carries, he has only 3 years with more than 200 carries.

Mcgahee has 1800 carries and 5 years with over 200 carries, Adrian Peterson has 1400 carries and 5 years over 200 carries, Chris Johnson has 1200 carries and 4 years over 200 carries, Frank Gore 1650 carries and 6 years over 200 carries.

Jones-Drew has more treads on his tires than most good or great RBs in the league currently, he hasn't had any significant injuries in the last 3 years despite being the bellcow.

If we apply the same logic that Mr. Douglas Lee is using to argue against MJD, we should never have gotten Manning - no QB has won a super bowl after switching teams in his mid 30s, most super bowls are won by QBs in the their 30s and by QBs who are with their first NFL team. The 20 million per year for a player who has missed an entire season of football is just too much money compared to how little we had to pay Tebow. Tebow would be cheaper and we should surely give him a chance to show what he can do, the same way Ronnie Hillman now deserves a chance.

20 million in guarantees, seems reasonable to me if he can play for another 3 seasons that is less than 7 million per year in guarantees plus some salary for one of, if not the best RB in the league - being elite costs money. For ****s and giggles we are paying Champ Bailey more than 10 million per year despite his age and recent injuries, elite talent is worth the money.

He is a 27 year old IIRC running back with loads of hits on him. Which means if you use the average for RBs he is over his career life right about now as well as there are very few RBs over 30. Which is about the time they have lost a step ..

As for Mc Gahee he had some time off during his career and was not used much when he was on a team..

I just do not see the LONG term value of spending that kind of money on a short term RB that would be going to a HOF QB passing team.

The RBs we have will be more than willing or able to mop up after PM gets them a lead. No need to spend huge money on a Ferrari when all you need is a Mustang GT.

If you really want to know I do not believe any player is worth that kind of money and I would not have went after PM but since he is here well no sense in kicking him out the back door.

That said I'd never pay that much for a RB with load sof miles on him.

Bacchus
09-04-2012, 02:12 AM
He is back with the Wads timeto let it go.

SouthStndJunkie
09-04-2012, 03:24 PM
MIAMI -- Quarterback David Garrard has been released by the Miami Dolphins, leaving Matt Moore as the veteran backup to rookie starter Ryan Tannehill.

SouthStndJunkie
09-05-2012, 04:34 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/05/wittens-fine-but-he-likely-wont-play/

Witten’s fine, but he likely won’t play

SPORTSWRITER
09-05-2012, 05:33 AM
But then if your a democratic spending someone elses money comes easy for y'all.
http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/broncos/entry/why-pursuing-mjd-would-make-no-sense-for-the-broncos

I dig your quote about DIMocrats spending other people's money!! YOU ROCK!!

SPORTSWRITER
09-05-2012, 05:37 AM
wtf are you talking about

DIMocrats spending, i.e. wasting, our money. I believe THAT'S what!! Obummer is the WORST president in my lifetime, and I've been around since Truman, and suffered through Jimmy Cawta!

SPORTSWRITER
09-05-2012, 05:48 AM
A couple of nice articles on Russell Wilson:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/03/russell-wilson-aims-for-greatness/

Russell Wilson aims for greatness

http://seattle.sbnation.com/2012/9/2/3287187/russell-wilson-looks-to-emulate-peyton-mannings-off-field-work-ethic

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I'm pulling for Wilson! It's about time that smaller, quicker QB's with great speed and cannon-like arms began to dominate in the NFL! GM's and Scouts always worry about height for a QB, and wonder if he will be able to "see over lineman" and have a greater "view of the field of play." Well, when you can move like Wilson, have his intelligence, work ethic and arm, I happen to believe QB's that size with those traits will find SUCCESS in the NFL, IF they can remain HEALTHY!! It's been happening slowly over the years, and this "change" will really make a much more exciting game for fans!! I really hope such guys will open up the offenses in the league, as well as change the way defenses play too!! GO RGIII ('cept when you play against our Broncos)!!

BroncoBuff
09-05-2012, 06:22 AM
The saddest part is, Wilson was still on the board when we picked Brock Osweiler ... :(

Seriously though, as a senior he completed 73% of his passes for 33 TDs and just 4 Ints, Badgers coaches said 2 of the 4 were receiver error. Pete Carroll said Wilson sees passing lanes develop and reads downfield traffic better than anybody he's seen, for what that's worth.

BroncoInferno
09-05-2012, 06:29 AM
The saddest part is, Wilson was still on the board when we picked Brock Osweiler ... :(

Seriously though, as a senior he completed 73% of his passes for 33 TDs and just 4 Ints, Badgers coaches said 2 of the 4 were receiver error. Pete Carroll said Wilson sees passing lanes develop and reads downfield traffic better than anybody he's seen, for what that's worth.

A lot of folks whiffed on Wilson because of the heighth issue. In any case, let's not crown the guy yet based on an impressive preseason. Nor, for that matter, declare Osweiler a bust. We knew he was a raw project when drafted him, so how about give him a little time (and this is coming from someone who didn't really like the pick)?

DBroncos4life
09-05-2012, 06:33 AM
The saddest part is, Wilson was still on the board when we picked Brock Osweiler ... :(

Seriously though, as a senior he completed 73% of his passes for 33 TDs and just 4 Ints, Badgers coaches said 2 of the 4 were receiver error. Pete Carroll said Wilson sees passing lanes develop and reads downfield traffic better than anybody he's seen, for what that's worth.

It's really not worth much. Wilson will be 27/28 when manningis done. No thanks. Rather have Oz at 24.

BroncoBuff
09-05-2012, 08:06 AM
Bucs and Broncos should man-up and admit their mistake. Bravely cut their losses and do what's right for each team: swap Brock Osweiler straight up for Lavonte David.

We all know what's happened with DJ Williams, and thus why Lavonte David was right for us, would've made us a better team. At the same time Josh Freeman's inaccuracy and slow adaptation to the new offense is "causing growing concerns" (see below). In Osweiler, the Bucs would've scored the rare 'same-size-as-Josh' QB, one with a more accurate arm.

Get it done, Bucs and Broncos ... don't worry how it looks, just do what you need to do to make things right.

And can you get it done before all the drama starts up this afternoon?





All this in just the past 10 days ... he's getting worse, not better.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9953/joshwz.png

SouthStndJunkie
09-06-2012, 07:44 PM
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2012/09/jerry-jones-has-someone-wipe-his-glasses-for-him-photos/1?csp=hf#.UElemUT7oXw

Jerry Jones' son-in-law wipes his glasses for him

errand
09-06-2012, 07:55 PM
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2012/09/jerry-jones-has-someone-wipe-his-glasses-for-him-photos/1?csp=hf#.UElemUT7oXw

Jerry Jones' son-in-law wipes his glasses for him


...and as his son-in-law, he'll inherit a few bucks too....can you blame him?

Tim
09-06-2012, 07:55 PM
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2012/09/jerry-jones-has-someone-wipe-his-glasses-for-him-photos/1?csp=hf#.UElemUT7oXw

Jerry Jones' son-in-law wipes his glasses for him

I saw that last night, he made that guy out to be his bitch on live tv:spit:

bowtown
09-06-2012, 08:24 PM
The saddest part is, Wilson was still on the board when we picked Brock Osweiler ... :(

Seriously though, as a senior he completed 73% of his passes for 33 TDs and just 4 Ints, Badgers coaches said 2 of the 4 were receiver error. Pete Carroll said Wilson sees passing lanes develop and reads downfield traffic better than anybody he's seen, for what that's worth.

Do you have your new Russel Wilson 2012 Preseason Forevah tattoo yet?

oubronco
09-07-2012, 07:08 AM
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2012/09/jerry-jones-has-someone-wipe-his-glasses-for-him-photos/1?csp=hf#.UElemUT7oXw

Jerry Jones' son-in-law wipes his glasses for him

I'm sure that's not the only thing he's wiping

peacepipe
09-07-2012, 07:51 AM
irsay had a funny tweet about jerry jones

he tweeted,
" I hired the gimp from pulp fiction 2 clean my glasses,he lives under a trap door in the owners suite.he also does my groceries."

bronco militia
09-07-2012, 09:12 AM
irsay had a funny tweet about jerry jones

he tweeted,
" I hired the gimp from pulp fiction 2 clean my glasses,he lives under a trap door in the owners suite.he also does my groceries."

bwhaha...awesome

menonite
09-07-2012, 09:42 AM
irsay had a funny tweet about jerry jones

he tweeted,
" I hired the gimp from pulp fiction 2 clean my glasses,he lives under a trap door in the owners suite.he also does my groceries."


By "groceries" he meant five dime bags and a Hefty bag of shrooms.

Play2win
09-07-2012, 10:13 AM
The saddest part is, Wilson was still on the board when we picked Brock Osweiler ... :(

Seriously though, as a senior he completed 73% of his passes for 33 TDs and just 4 Ints, Badgers coaches said 2 of the 4 were receiver error. Pete Carroll said Wilson sees passing lanes develop and reads downfield traffic better than anybody he's seen, for what that's worth.

POSH! Brock is going to revolutionize the Quarterback position!

:)

SouthStndJunkie
09-07-2012, 04:00 PM
Running back Arian Foster expects to play for the Texans on Sunday.

Coach Gary Kubiak isn’t quite so sure. He called Foster a game time decision during his meeting with the media on Friday after Foster missed practice because of knee soreness. Foster was pulled out of practice on Thursday with the same problem, leading to a visit to the MRI machine that Kubiak said turned out fine.

broncosteven
09-07-2012, 06:24 PM
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2012/09/jerry-jones-has-someone-wipe-his-glasses-for-him-photos/1?csp=hf#.UElemUT7oXw

Jerry Jones' son-in-law wipes his glasses for him

That is nothing compared to what Al Davis's inlaws had to do!

oubronco
09-07-2012, 06:50 PM
POSH! Brock is going to revolutionize the Quarterback position!

:)

Oh Good Grief!! here we go

SouthStndJunkie
09-07-2012, 08:58 PM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8348650/cleveland-browns-honor-late-owner-art-modell-opener

Browns to pay tribute to Art Modell

BEREA, Ohio -- Art Modell will be recognized Sunday by the team he moved to Baltimore.

The Cleveland Browns plan to have an "appropriate recognition" for the late Modell at the season opener against the Philadelphia Eagles.

SouthStndJunkie
09-07-2012, 08:59 PM
I don't think that's really a good idea.

It's going to be a pretty awkward moment when they hold a moment of silence and the crowd starts booing very loudly.

Common sense would tell them that this is the likely scenario and to leave well enough alone.

Art Modell had nothing to do with the current Browns franchise....he took his team to Baltimore.

lolcopter
09-08-2012, 12:12 PM
Broncos release Caleb hanie... Where's the celebration thread?

crush17
09-08-2012, 12:13 PM
Broncos release Caleb hanie... Where's the celebration thread?

There are 2 threads on the front page talking about it.

DBroncos4life
09-08-2012, 12:29 PM
There are 2 threads on the front page talking about it.

So it can't be posted here????

SouthStndJunkie
09-08-2012, 02:02 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/08/browns-wont-mention-modell-at-familys-request/

Browns won’t mention Modell, at family’s request

SouthStndJunkie
09-08-2012, 02:03 PM
Smart move....I knew the original plan of moment of silence was a bad idea, as the fans would have made it an awkward moment.

SouthStndJunkie
09-10-2012, 12:08 PM
The Buffalo Bills not only got blown out Sunday but top running back Fred Jackson is out for at least one month and receiver David Nelson is gone for the rest of the 2012 season, sources told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

An MRI exam completed on Jackson's right knee Monday revealed nothing conclusive, a source familiar with result told Schefter. It likely will be 7-10 days before a timeline is established for his return but a source estimated that the running back will miss at least a month.

SouthStndJunkie
09-11-2012, 04:32 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/11/jacoby-ford-will-have-foot-surgery/

Jacoby Ford will have foot surgery

DBroncos4life
09-13-2012, 10:11 AM
Anyone else see the report about Tebow asking for a trade if he isn't the starter going into 2013? Seems like weird timing for something like this to be reported.

lolcopter
09-13-2012, 10:13 AM
Anyone else see the report about Tebow asking for a trade if he isn't the starter going into 2013? Seems like weird timing for something like this to be reported.

Link?

I watched that NFL program on him last night, pretty decent. I mostly liked the interviews with Flutie and Staubach

maven
09-13-2012, 10:19 AM
Anyone else see the report about Tebow asking for a trade if he isn't the starter going into 2013? Seems like weird timing for something like this to be reported.

Tebow running out of teams who will start him. Every year that passes brand new shiny QB's enter the league. Tebow should just convert to another position.

DBroncos4life
09-13-2012, 10:22 AM
Link?

I watched that NFL program on him last night, pretty decent. I mostly liked the interviews with Flutie and Staubach
It was on TV. Adam Schefter was talking about how it will wait to be addressed till the offseason.

Beantown Bronco
09-13-2012, 10:23 AM
Anyone else see the report about Tebow asking for a trade if he isn't the starter going into 2013? Seems like weird timing for something like this to be reported.

Gotta be BS. There's no way he could expect to be named the starter after the preseason he had and after the gobs of money they threw at Sanchez before they even signed Tebow. He knew what the deal was when he agreed to go there.

DBroncos4life
09-13-2012, 10:27 AM
http://www.businessinsider.com/tim-tebow-trade-rumor-2012-9

Not saying I believe it just saying someone is reporting it.

DivineLegion
09-13-2012, 10:27 AM
Tebow running out of teams who will start him. Every year that passes brand new shiny QB's enter the league. Tebow should just convert to another position.

Outside of KC, what team is that desperate for a QB?

Seahawks: Wilson
Cards: Skelton/Kolb (I would take either over teebs)
Raiders: Palmer>Tebow, and they have a more talented Tebow in Terrelle Pryor
Vikings: Ponder
Jaguars: Gaberet
Titans: Locker


Lets face it if Tim cant beat out Sanchise he isnt going to suplant another young QB in the NFL, and no one really wants a QB who cant throw.

lonestar
09-13-2012, 10:31 AM
Anyone else see the report about Tebow asking for a trade if he isn't the starter going into 2013? Seems like weird timing for something like this to be reported.

There are hundreds of media reporters in NYC. Anyone think someone is just stiring the pot.

Someone trying to get ahead.

Do yo Suppose that maybe someone was just sitiing around shooting the breeze and he overheard it.

Hey I'll bet it was some moron hater on here that sent him the info.

broncosteven
09-13-2012, 11:59 AM
There are hundreds of media reporters in NYC. Anyone think someone is just stiring the pot.

Someone trying to get ahead.

Do yo Suppose that maybe someone was just sitiing around shooting the breeze and he overheard it.

Hey I'll bet it was some moron hater on here that sent him the info.

Nope.

There has been something too good to be true about Tebow from the day he was drafted. He plays this humble aw shucks act but yet is leading this huge media push and does his praying and proselytizing publicly which to most looks more like glory seeking than just living his faith.

Even Schlereth has said on NFL live multiple times that he thought that there was an ulterior motive Tebow has had all along.

I bet he tought mCd was going to turn him into this great NFL QB and when mCd was canned his options turned into Jets as a WC QB or Jacksonville where he probably didn't want to go because the limited exposure compared to NY.

I bet he thought he could unseat Sanchez, or someone pumped him up to think he could.

Dude will be lucky to stay in the NFL if he can't be a factor even as a WC QB. He has Jarious Jackson and Bradlee Van Pelt written all over him.

DBroncos4life
09-13-2012, 12:10 PM
Nope.

There has been something too good to be true about Tebow from the day he was drafted. He plays this humble aw shucks act but yet is leading this huge media push and does his praying and proselytizing publicly which to most looks more like glory seeking than just living his faith.

Even Schlereth has said on NFL live multiple times that he thought that there was an ulterior motive Tebow has had all along.

I bet he tought mCd was going to turn him into this great NFL QB and when mCd was canned his options turned into Jets as a WC QB or Jacksonville where he probably didn't want to go because the limited exposure compared to NY.

I bet he thought he could unseat Sanchez, or someone pumped him up to think he could.

Dude will be lucky to stay in the NFL if he can't be a factor even as a WC QB. He has Jarious Jackson and Bradlee Van Pelt written all over him.
The wild cat is dead. I wish I could remember the poster i was arguing with about that. It didn't matter if they ran it or not in preseason. It won't fool anyone. Hilarious!

Kaylore
09-13-2012, 12:16 PM
Tebow is now realizing that he isn't playing behind Kyle Orton anymore. That has to be discouraging for a QB who wants to take a starting job.

Deebs
09-13-2012, 12:21 PM
There are hundreds of media reporters in NYC. Anyone think someone is just stiring the pot.

Someone trying to get ahead.

Do yo Suppose that maybe someone was just sitiing around shooting the breeze and he overheard it.

Hey I'll bet it was some moron hater on here that sent him the info.

That's when a journalist who's desperate for an angle to frame a story around can always rely on the "unnamed sources say..." BS to manufacture a story.

Media guys get a bad rap sometimes. Most do their job well. But yeah, as with any profession, there are jerks who take liberties with the truth to get ahead. And those tend to be the stories that get the most traction, because they're sensationalistic, if not truthful

SouthStndJunkie
09-14-2012, 11:00 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/14/bengals-place-thomas-howard-on-ir-with-torn-acl/

Bengals place Thomas Howard on IR with torn ACL

SouthStndJunkie
09-14-2012, 12:45 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/14/dolphins-plan-impossible-halftime-contest/

Dolphins plan impossible halftime contest

Arkie
09-17-2012, 11:14 AM
Former Broncos running back Andre Brown had a good game for the Giants.

Entering Sunday, the average NFL fan had more rushing yards than Giants running back Andre Brown. Even though he was drafted in 2009, a ruptured Achilles tendon, a nomadic 2010 season and a 20011 stint on the Giants' practice squad left Brown with a grand total of -1 yards on two carries.

That changed in Sunday's 41-34 win over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as Brown replaced injured starter Ahmad Bradshaw (neck) and finished with 71 yards on 13 carries and the game-winning touchdown.

http://www.cbssports.com/general/blog/nfl-rapidreports/20212186/giants-notebook-andre-brown-finally-gets-his-shot

bronco militia
09-17-2012, 12:18 PM
Shanahan says Orakpo and Carriker out for the season


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/17/shanahan-says-orakpo-and-carriker-out-for-the-season/

BroncoInferno
09-17-2012, 12:19 PM
Shanahan says Orakpo and Carriker out for the season


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/17/shanahan-says-orakpo-and-carriker-out-for-the-season/

Damn. Two of his best defenders. That hurts.

bronco militia
09-17-2012, 12:20 PM
no wonder....that defense was terrible yesterday.

good luck Slowdick!

Rohirrim
09-17-2012, 12:30 PM
Cutler is tearing that team apart!
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/17/d-j-moore-on-jay-cutler-i-dont-think-you-can-act-like-that/

:rofl:

maven
09-17-2012, 12:37 PM
Shanahan says Orakpo and Carriker out for the season


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/17/shanahan-says-orakpo-and-carriker-out-for-the-season/

The Rams just beat the Skins, and now they are going to get a higher draft pick from the skins. Gr8 day if your a rams fan.

maven
09-17-2012, 12:39 PM
The wild cat is dead. I wish I could remember the poster i was arguing with about that. It didn't matter if they ran it or not in preseason. It won't fool anyone. Hilarious!

When the Jets fall apart, sporano will resort to desperate measures and break out the wild cat again.

maven
09-17-2012, 12:43 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/14/dolphins-plan-impossible-halftime-contest/

Dolphins plan impossible halftime contest

A 60 yard FG?

:spit:

Majority of the people in America cannot throw a 60 yard pass(Ican).

BroncoBeavis
09-17-2012, 12:46 PM
Tebow is now realizing that he isn't playing behind Kyle Orton anymore. That has to be discouraging for a QB who wants to take a starting job.

10 for 27, 138 yards.

If that were a Jets home game, you would've already been hearing the chants.

Sad thing is Sanchez is in a no win situation. That receiving corps is awful. But that also might make the Tebow run threat the only real option at some point.

SouthStndJunkie
09-17-2012, 01:30 PM
Shanahan says Orakpo and Carriker out for the season

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/17/shanahan-says-orakpo-and-carriker-out-for-the-season/

Ooof....that sucks for Shanny and the Skins.

bronco militia
09-17-2012, 01:34 PM
no problem!! I got this, Mike

http://broncotalk.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/bobslowik.jpg

cmhargrove
09-17-2012, 01:40 PM
Shanahan says Orakpo and Carriker out for the season


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/17/shanahan-says-orakpo-and-carriker-out-for-the-season/

Damn! Right when the starts were aligning for Shanahan. I have no real love for the Redskins, but that sucks.

SouthStndJunkie
09-18-2012, 06:31 AM
Falcons running back Michael Turner celebrated his team’s Monday night win in the Gwinnett County Jail Tuesday morning.

According to the Atlanta Journal Constitution, Turner was charged with driving under the influence of alcohol and speeding early Tuesday morning.

lolcopter
09-18-2012, 07:03 AM
Whoa

Derek Wolfe ‏@MethWolfe95
Went partying with Michael Turner last night after the game. Stumpy little dude can ****in put em down!

Cool twitter bro you're so ****ing funny



Douche

RhymesayersDU
09-18-2012, 07:08 AM
I don't always beat Denver on Monday Night Football, but when I do, I get a DUI.

SouthStndJunkie
09-18-2012, 10:53 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/18/steve-sabol-nfl-films-president-dies-at-69/

Steve Sabol, NFL Films president, dies at 69

lonestar
09-18-2012, 11:03 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/18/steve-sabol-nfl-films-president-dies-at-69/

Steve Sabol, NFL Films president, dies at 69

IIRC the voice of NFL films

will always remember those highlights especially on MNF when it first started..

almost the hi-lite of the game..

menonite
09-18-2012, 11:05 AM
Dang, that sucks.

bronco militia
09-18-2012, 11:46 AM
http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Cutlerfinger.jpg

Jay Cutler has no regrets about yelling at his left tackle


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/18/jay-cutler-has-no-regrets-about-yelling-at-his-left-tackle/

SouthStndJunkie
09-18-2012, 12:01 PM
Reggie Bush has transformed himself into a very good starting RB since he got to Miami.

Last season, he ran for 1,086 yards, averaging 5.0 yards a pop and added 43 receptions.

He was in beast mode last Sunday, running for 172 yards and 2 TDs.

If he stays healthy this season, I bet he rushes for 1,500 to 1,600 yards.

Rohirrim
09-18-2012, 12:15 PM
http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Cutlerfinger.jpg

Nice dog, douche.

Action
09-18-2012, 01:05 PM
Reggie Bush has transformed himself into a very good starting RB since he got to Miami.

Last season, he ran for 1,086 yards, averaging 5.0 yards a pop and added 43 receptions.

He was in beast mode last Sunday, running for 172 yards and 2 TDs.

If he stays healthy this season, I bet he rushes for 1,500 to 1,600 yards.

add to the fact that he's on his contract year...

SouthStndJunkie
09-18-2012, 01:11 PM
Tight end Kellen Winslow, who was cut before the start of the season by the Seahawks, has signed with the Patriots, according to a league source. It’s a one-year deal.

bronco militia
09-18-2012, 01:20 PM
ouch my knee!

lonestar
09-18-2012, 01:50 PM
Tight end Kellen Winslow, who was cut before the start of the season by the Seahawks, has signed with the Patriots, according to a league source. It’s a one-year deal.

How many TEs do they need? Was someone hurt?

Beantown Bronco
09-18-2012, 01:53 PM
How many TEs do they need? Was someone hurt?

Looks like someone missed the Aaron Hernandez injury.

Kaylore
09-18-2012, 02:09 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/18/steve-sabol-nfl-films-president-dies-at-69/

Steve Sabol, NFL Films president, dies at 69

That's sad, but at least he got to introduce his dad into the HOF before he passed.

lonestar
09-18-2012, 05:17 PM
Looks like someone missed the Aaron Hernandez injury.

since I do not life and breath NE football and have a life away from teh forum.. yes I did..

how serious was it?

menonite
09-18-2012, 05:20 PM
Out up to six weeks the last I heard.

lonestar
09-18-2012, 05:44 PM
Out up to six weeks the last I heard.

danke..

lonestar
09-18-2012, 05:46 PM
just looked at their roster.. have four active TEs and 3 on IR or PUP.. tough position to play in NE..

bronco militia
09-19-2012, 07:00 AM
;D;D

This Cowboys fan rant contains more emotional swings than an episode of Real Housewives.

(some colorful language)
http://thefakeespn.lockerdome.com/media/100737395

bronco militia
09-19-2012, 08:09 AM
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for a few more http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2012/09/lolnfl-2012-week-2.html#page/1

SouthStndJunkie
09-20-2012, 03:38 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/20/robert-griffin-iii-says-rams-did-a-lot-of-dirty-things/

Robert Griffin III says Rams did a lot of dirty things

SouthStndJunkie
09-20-2012, 03:39 PM
RG III needs to watch it....if players know chippy play gets under his skin, they'll all be doing it to him.

errand
09-20-2012, 03:49 PM
Whoa

Derek Wolfe ‏@MethWolfe95
Went partying with Michael Turner last night after the game. Stumpy little dude can ****in put em down!

well, this explains why Methwolfe was a no-show in the Falcons game

menonite
09-20-2012, 03:50 PM
yep. I was about to post the exact same comment. Is he a member of the competition committee again?

Play2win
09-20-2012, 04:08 PM
well, this explains why Methwolfe was a no-show in the Falcons game

Dude, don't, just don't.

swaiy
09-20-2012, 04:27 PM
I cant figure out how to copy and paste on this device but apparently theTexans are praticing with their OLBs offsides to simulate denvers speed.

SouthStndJunkie
09-24-2012, 09:37 AM
FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- Star cornerback Darrelle Revis tore the ACL in his left knee and will require season-ending surgery, New York Jets coach Rex Ryan announced Monday.

SouthStndJunkie
09-25-2012, 04:43 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/25/redskins-agree-to-terms-with-running-back-ryan-grant/

Redskins agree to terms with running back Ryan Grant

SouthStndJunkie
09-27-2012, 03:15 PM
FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- Tight end Kellen Winslow asked to be released by the Patriots, and the team obliged Thursday, according to a source.

menonite
09-27-2012, 03:25 PM
FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- Tight end Kellen Winslow asked to be released by the Patriots, and the team obliged Thursday, according to a source.

Old soldiers don't die - they just get cut.

SouthStndJunkie
10-01-2012, 06:48 AM
Indianapolis Colts first-year head coach Chuck Pagano has been diagnosed with a treatable form of leukemia, according to sources.

SouthStndJunkie
10-01-2012, 10:05 PM
I don't know if its been mention yet, but Drew Brees matched Johnny Unitas, by throwing a TD in 47 consecutive games.

That's a record that's been around for 52 years, which surprises me.

You'd think one of the great QBs of the last 52 years would have broken the record, but then you also realize it only takes one game to break the streak....one game where your RB scores a few TDs and you don't get any passing TDs or you go up against a dominating defense that shuts down the passing game.

oubronco
10-02-2012, 04:08 PM
Denver Broncos

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/002/636/787/hi-res-6606600_display_image.jpg?1349148269
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Biggest Need: Safety

The Broncos have greatly improved their run defense, giving up just 3.4 yards per carry, but they need to get better at preventing big plays in the passing game.

Rahim Moore is only starting because of an injury to Quinton Carter, and Mike Adams is a slow, aging vet that can be taken advantage of in coverage. Even with Carter in the lineup, this is an average unit at best.

Luckily for the Broncos, this is a strong safety class that will allow them to get younger and more athletic on the back end of their defense.

broncosteven
10-02-2012, 07:46 PM
Denver Broncos

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/002/636/787/hi-res-6606600_display_image.jpg?1349148269
<SMALL class=photo-credit>Chris Humphreys-US PRESSWIRE</SMALL>

Biggest Need: Safety

The Broncos have greatly improved their run defense, giving up just 3.4 yards per carry, but they need to get better at preventing big plays in the passing game.

Rahim Moore is only starting because of an injury to Quinton Carter, and Mike Adams is a slow, aging vet that can be taken advantage of in coverage. Even with Carter in the lineup, this is an average unit at best.

Luckily for the Broncos, this is a strong safety class that will allow them to get younger and more athletic on the back end of their defense.

Adams is a big reason our run D is much better. I would take a blown coverage here and there to keep McFadden bottled up all day.

Broncoman13
10-02-2012, 09:00 PM
Adams is a big reason our run D is much better. I would take a blown coverage here and there to keep McFadden bottled up all day.

Andre Johnson agrees with this message.

SouthStndJunkie
10-03-2012, 03:10 PM
FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- For the second time in nine days, the New York Jets announced a season-ending injury to one of their best players. This time, it's wide receiver Santonio Holmes, who will have surgery to repair a Lisfranc injury to his left foot.

SouthStndJunkie
10-04-2012, 05:29 PM
Larry Fitzgerald only needs 140 receiving yards to hit 10,000 yards receiving for his career.

That was quick....Fitz only turned 29 years old a month ago.

SouthStndJunkie
10-04-2012, 05:30 PM
I'll take St. Louis and the points against Arizona tonight.

Easy money.

Bmore Manning
10-04-2012, 06:23 PM
The Rams have let Steven Jackson void the last year of his contract.

http://m.nfl.com/news/0ap1000000069422/report-rams-allow-jackson-to-void-final-year-of-contract/

SouthStndJunkie
10-05-2012, 05:29 PM
St. Louis Rams wide receiver Danny Amendola is expected to miss about six weeks with an injury to his collarbone, a league source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

Amendola, injured in Thursday's game against the Arizona Cardinals, suffered what the team believes is a sternoclavicular joint separation. While the injury is expected to sideline Amendola six weeks, he could return earlier.

uplink
10-07-2012, 07:03 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/06/packers-activate-mike-neal-cut-phillip-merling/

I know a lot of people wanted to trade Orton for Merling a while back. Maybe he is worth a look, not sure if he qualifies to void the waiver wire.

SouthStndJunkie
10-09-2012, 06:38 AM
DETROIT -- Alex Karras' condition has deteriorated and the NFL team he played for is extending its sympathies.

The Detroit Free Press and Detroit News reported the former All-Pro defensive lineman and actor has been given only a few days to live because of recent kidney failure.

SouthStndJunkie
10-09-2012, 06:39 AM
Mongo not feeling well.

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bronco militia
10-09-2012, 07:23 AM
damn......

Wes Mantooth
10-09-2012, 08:02 AM
Sucks

maven
10-09-2012, 01:39 PM
Brian Cushing out for the year. ACL tear

baja
10-09-2012, 01:48 PM
Former Detroit Lions defensive star Alex Karras is at home, spending his final days with his family.
Craig Mitnick, Karras' attorney in a lawsuit against the NFL, says Karras may be dying from kidney failure because his body has caught up to the dementia he suffers from. Mitnick says the family hasn't yet decided whether his brain will be donated to research the effects of head injuries in football.
The 77-year-old, former All-Pro defensive tackle and actor was surrounded by his wife and kids on Tuesday at his home in Los Angeles.
Karras later joined "Monday Night Football" as a broadcaster and had a well-known appearance as Mongo in the 1974 movie "Blazing Saddles" as well as the 1980s sitcom "Webster."


http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_21733605/alex-karras-wife-kids-after-kidney-failure

Kaylore
10-09-2012, 02:12 PM
Brian Cushing out for the year. ACL tear

That's brutal. I've heard that steroids make ligaments weaker, but really, anyone can tear an ACL.

Drunken.Broncoholic
10-09-2012, 02:14 PM
Brian Cushing out for the year. ACL tear

The zone blocking effect?

Killericon
10-15-2012, 10:04 AM
That's brutal. I've heard that steroids make ligaments weaker, but really, anyone can tear an ACL.

http://sportsfullcircle.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/shawne-merriman.jpg

maven
10-15-2012, 11:14 AM
Baltimore Ravens cornerback Lardarius Webb suffered a torn ACL in his right knee Sunday against the Dallas Cowboys

maven
10-15-2012, 11:15 AM
That's brutal. I've heard that steroids make ligaments weaker, but really, anyone can tear an ACL.

The zone blocking effect?

The hit on him was dirty, imo. Uncalled for by the Jets lineman.

bronco militia
10-15-2012, 12:44 PM
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Smiling Assassin27
10-15-2012, 12:55 PM
http://sportsfullcircle.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/shawne-merriman.jpg

This guy was just signed by the Bills. And already, he's had a better year than Mario Williams. :giggle: