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TexanBob
10-23-2008, 05:35 PM
Breitbart.com (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=081023232610.187uwdxs&show_article=1)

The New York Times Co. reported a steep drop in third-quarter profits on Thursday, the latest gloomy earnings report in an industry battered by online competition and falling print advertising revenue.

The New York Times Co. said net profit fell by 51.4 percent in the third quarter to 6.5 million dollars, or five cents per share, from 13.4 million dollars, or nine cents per share, in the same period a year ago.

The company, which owns About.com, The Boston Globe, International Herald Tribune and 16 other daily newspapers besides the flagship The New York Times, said overall advertising revenue fell by 14.4 percent during the quarter.

Shortly after the release of its results, Standard & Poors said it was lowering the Times's credit rating to "BB-," or junk status, while Moody's Investors Service said it was placing it on review for possible downgrade.

Moody's changed the rating outlook for the company to negative from stable in July. A further downgrade would reduce it to junk status. Both companies said the moves were based on the uncertain outlook for newspaper advertising.

Print advertising revenue has been declining at newspapers across the United States as circulation drops, more readers go online for their news and advertisers shift their dollars to the Internet.

The New York Times's share price rose slightly on Wall Street on Thursday, gaining 0.19 percent to close at 10.70 dollars, but was down 3.74 percent to 10.30 dollars in after-hours trading.

The Times said print advertising revenue fell by 18.5 percent in the third quarter while online revenue from NYTimes.com and other websites rose by 2.5 percent.

"The decline in print advertising revenues this quarter accelerated as the economy slowed," New York Times chief executive Janet Robinson said in a statement.

While print advertising revenue fell, online advertising revenue grew by 10.2 percent in the quarter to 74.4 million dollars, The New York Times said, and now accounts for 12.4 percent of revenue, up from 10.6 percent in the third quarter of 2007.

It said total revenue fell 8.9 percent in the quarter to 687 million dollars from 754.4 million in the same quarter last year.

Circulation revenue rose by one percent due to an increase in home-delivery and newsstand prices for the paper.

The company said it managed to reduce operating costs by 6.8 percent during the quarter and "given the adverse economic conditions, we will continue our strict cost discipline."

The New York Times also indicated in its statement that it may cut its dividend. "Our board of directors plans to review our dividend policy before the end of this year to determine what is most prudent in light of the overall market conditions," said Robinson.

It also said it was looking at writing down the value of assets in its New England Media Group, which includes the Boston Globe, by 100 million dollars to 150 million dollars.

Their journalistic credibility has been junk status for decades. Now their finances reflect that. :P

Bob
10-23-2008, 06:41 PM
I wonder when the fairness doctrine is passed if there will be a buried clause that profitable, conservative businesses will have to prop them up???

In fact I think this post should be stricken, as it does not represent both sides -- where's L.A when you need him. Damn he is slipping down on the job -- maybe the government can provide the official other "mainstream" view -- like PBS News Weekly?

Rohirrim
10-23-2008, 06:42 PM
I had tacos for dinner. They were delicious.

Bob
10-23-2008, 06:51 PM
I had tacos for dinner. They were delicious.

So what you actually are saying is: The bees build in the crevices Of looseing masonry, and there the mother birds bring grubs and flies. My wall is loosening; honey-bees, Come build in the empty house of the stare.

Well, now your finally making sense...both you and Yeats.

Spider
10-23-2008, 06:55 PM
I am sure this little tid bit hasnt been thought of by our resident genuis on whats junk what isnt , but 51% in new York is better then 100% in most citys ....

Rohirrim
10-23-2008, 06:59 PM
So what you actually are saying is: The bees build in the crevices Of looseing masonry, and there the mother birds bring grubs and flies. My wall is loosening; honey-bees, Come build in the empty house of the stare.

Well, now your finally making sense...both you and Yeats.

You also might have noticed that newspapers all over the U.S. are beginning to fail. They're being replaced by a new technology. You might have heard of it. It's called the internets. Turning and turning in the widening gyre.

Bob
10-23-2008, 07:00 PM
I am sure this little tid bit hasnt been thought of by our resident genuis on whats junk what isnt , but 51% in new York is better then 100% in most citys ....

You really like it? Cant say I have had the privlege to get out there ... but woudl like to. I love the West, but grew up in Chicago -- cant say I would move back now, too many lines, too much traffic, but love the Art Insititute there -- just incredible if one likes that sort of thing...

mhgaffney
10-23-2008, 07:00 PM
This is not news.

The so called "paper of record" has been junk for many years.

And I don't mean because of its stock -- which has nothing to do with it.

(BTW the same goes for the W Post.)

MHG

Bob
10-23-2008, 07:01 PM
You also might have noticed that newspapers all over the U.S. are beginning to fail. They're being replaced by a new technology. You might have heard of it. It's called the internets. Turning and turning in the widening gyre.

Wow, "the internets" pray do tell...

Bob
10-23-2008, 07:04 PM
This is not news.

The so called "paper of record" has been junk for many years.

And I don't mean because of its stock -- which has nothing to do with it.

(BTW the same goes for the W Post.)

MHG

On a serious note -- hows the book thing coming allong? Getting decent sales/reviews? I felt bad they way folks knocked you for it -- I dont lean the same way, but how many here have invested the time to do such a thing?

Spider
10-23-2008, 07:04 PM
You really like it? Cant say I have had the privlege to get out there ... but woudl like to. I love the West, but grew up in Chicago -- cant say I would move back now, too many lines, too much traffic, but love the Art Insititute there -- just incredible if one likes that sort of thing...

i wouldnt live in new York city , but there is no question that it is one of the best citys on the planet , you got everything there , some of it bad , but you have the western ( cowboy ) culture , all of it , at night one of the most breath taking citys , and one of the most dangerous , excitement , always something to do , and upstate New york is just wow ......... but most of all stop off at ellis Island , the statue of Liberty , see the liberty bell in philly ........

Bob
10-23-2008, 07:06 PM
i wouldnt live in new York city , but there is no question that it is one of the best citys on the planet , you got everything there , some of it bad , but you have the western ( cowboy ) culture , all of it , at night one of the most breath taking citys , and one of the most dangerous , excitement , always something to do , and upstate New york is just wow ......... but most of all stop off at ellis Island , the statue of Liberty , see the liberty bell in philly ........

Some day I may go with one of the stimulus package refunds....

Spider
10-23-2008, 07:10 PM
Some day I may go with one of the stimulus package refunds....

I may have to go this weekend .......... to be a trucker , you have to love this country , understand that what you do helps this country ........ But man go over the GW bridge at night .... Chi town got some awesome spots to it as well , but unfortunately most of my Chi town trips end up in Cicero or Gary Indiana

barryr
10-24-2008, 06:35 AM
The NY Times has endorsed only democrats for president for the last 50 years or so, which means they have endorsed such stalwarts as Carter, Mondale, and Dukakis to name a few. But they are "fair and balanced" though. Gee, one wonders who they pick this time.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-24-2008, 06:50 AM
But they are "fair and balanced" though.

Just like your favorite "news" source, right?

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