Woman Attacked At ATM, Assailant Carves Letter 'B' Into Her Face

[broncofan7]

It's a HOAX! per MSNBC

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/17789356/detail.html

PITTSBURGH -- A 20-year-old woman who was robbed at an ATM in Bloomfield was also maimed by her attacker, police said.

Pittsburgh police spokeswoman Diane Richard tells Channel 4 Action News that the victim was robbed at knifepoint on Wednesday night outside of a Citizens Bank near Liberty Avenue and Pearl Street just before 9 p.m.

Richard said the robber took $60 from the woman, then became angry when he saw a McCain bumper sticker on the victim's car. The attacker then punched and kicked the victim, before using the knife to scratch the letter "B" into her face, Richard said.

Richard said the woman refused medical treatment after the assault, which happened outside the view of the bank's surveillance cameras.

The robber is described as a dark-skinned black man, 6 feet 4 inches tall, 200 pounds with a medium build, short black hair and brown eyes. The man was wearing dark colored jeans, a black undershirt and black shoes.

The Obama-Biden campaign released a statement, commenting on the attack. The statement said "Our thoughts and prayers are with the young woman for her to make a speedy recovery, and we hope that the person who perpetrated this crime is swiftly apprehended and brought to justice."

Watch Channel 4 Action News at 5 p.m. for updates on this story

[Old Dude]

Strangely enough, the victim was a volunteer staffer for McCain.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/23/mccain-volunteer-mutilate_n_137301.html

[orinjkrush]

this election is unbelievably racist.

[scttgrd]

The B was done backwards. Morton Downey anyone, like it was done in a mirror? Could this have been self inflicted?

[DomCasual]

I wonder if he meant the B to stand for Obama? ???

It's like the joke, "What does the N on the Nebraska helmet stand for?"

Knowledge.

[barryr]

Yeah, all Obama supporters are law abiding, great people, so couldn't have really happened.

[Old Dude]

this election is unbelievably racist.

You mean like this?

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/9061/racistbf5.png

[Old Dude]

Or this?

http://blogs.bet.com/news/newsyoushouldknow/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/obama-monkey-shirt.jpg

[El Minion]

The B was done backwards. Morton Downey anyone, like it was done in a mirror? Could this have been self inflicted?

Or maybe the attacker was standing at the top of her head, facing her upside down from her viewpoint. How this can be attributed to Obama and his supporters is beyond me, slow news day I guess. Despicable act regardless.

[scttgrd]

Yeah, all Obama supporters are law abiding, great people, so couldn't have really happened.

So you are saying a black man mugged her for the $60, then as he was walking away say a car with a McCain sticker on it and became so enraged he went back and took the time to carve a nice B in her face backwards with wonderfull curves. All while on a public street no less. Use some critical thinking skills please.

[scttgrd]

Or maybe the attacker was standing at the top of her head, facing her upside down from her viewpoint. How this can be attributed to Obama and his supporters is beyond me, slow news day I guess. Despicable act regardless.

Yes but if he was over her head how was he holding her down?

[Mr.Meanie]

Maybe the assailant's name was Bob?

[El Minion]

Yes but if he was over her head how was he holding her down?

Right but you never know how people will react when assaulted, which she already was. It is reasonable to see how she could have submitted or cowered to him. But I will give you this, it must have been a dull knife (reasonable) because if that photo you posted is her, the "B" looks as if it was scratched on not cut on her, hopefully she has a full recover with no scars, physical and emotional.

[ak1971]

Yes but if he was over her head how was he holding her down?

with his third leg? :welcome:

[cutthemdown]

there is a real problem with crime in general, but especially in the young black male community. They seem to have struggled so much it has led to a subculture within the black community that is very violent.

I don't think the law abiding blacks ( the majority ) can stop it on there own, and the police can't do it either.

I think the answer has to be prison reform. I worked a bit for the public defender in LA and I can say for certain if a young man isn't a criminal when he goes in, he will be when he comes out. By the time you cycle these men in and out a few times they are hardened criminals for life.

We need to reform drug laws and stop incarcerating poor black kids when rich white kids get rehab. Am I giving an excuse, no, only a way I think we can maybe turn it around by thinning out the non violent prisoners so they can have a second shot at life.

After a few yrs in the pen in California many are just so far gone with violence they are lost forever.

I also realize that Latinos and Whites not immune to these problem I just feel prison effects the lives of young blacks more then any other race.

Sad story but it really has nothing to do with the election even though it's sort of being spun that way.

Also I think any black people that think Obama is going to be some sort of get out of jail free card, some type of free ride, are in for a rude awakening. IMO he will call out black people and be harder on them to do better then anything they have seen in the white house. He may just take a special interest in it.

[Bronco Bob]

Naw, the guy who did this was obviously a hardcore Broncos fan.
What the story isn't telling you is this woman was wearing a
Raiders jacket.

[cutthemdown]

the b is backwards because of the way it looked to the attacker . To accuse the lady of making it up is pretty bad. You can tell she was beaten.

[scttgrd]

the b is backwards because of the way it looked to the attacker . To accuse the lady of making it up is pretty bad. You can tell she was beaten.

We shall see, just too fishy for my taste.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Use some critical thinking skills please.

Heh! Ha!

You're talking to a guy who probably still thinks GeeDubya is doing a "heckuva job." ;)

[cutthemdown]

Heh! Ha!

You're talking to a guy who probably still thinks GeeDubya is doing a "heckuva job." ;)

so then you agree because B is backwards she did it herself. That is what he is saying critical thinking leads to.

IMO to expect some stupid thug to make sure his B which probably stands for bitch, to be the right orientation is a reach.

Cmon use some critical thinking and realize the thug just not smart enough.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

so then you agree because B is backwards she did it herself. That is what he is saying critical thinking leads to.

IMO to expect some stupid thug to make sure his B which probably stands for b****, to be the right orientation is a reach.

Cmon use some critical thinking and realize the thug just not smart enough.

Your comprehension game is hosed, isn't it? :crazy:

[scttgrd]

It happened 5 miles from the ATM, even the police are already casting doubt on this story. On a main street in downtown pittsburg this alleged attacker had the time and privacy to carve that B into her face. Like I said, fishy.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Gotta laugh at the way the republi-bubbas grasp for any straw - no matter how slender - they can reach. :laugh:

Pretty sad when their last hope is the "Bradley effect." :oyvey: :mullet2:

[scttgrd]

Check out the victims twitter page. No attention whoring here. Here is one of the pics of her campaigning.



http://lifeinthefield.com/users/ashley-todd

[Spider]

Yikes.

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/17789356/detail.html

PITTSBURGH -- A 20-year-old woman who was robbed at an ATM in Bloomfield was also maimed by her attacker, police said.

Pittsburgh police spokeswoman Diane Richard tells Channel 4 Action News that the victim was robbed at knifepoint on Wednesday night outside of a Citizens Bank near Liberty Avenue and Pearl Street just before 9 p.m.

Richard said the robber took $60 from the woman, then became angry when he saw a McCain bumper sticker on the victim's car. The attacker then punched and kicked the victim, before using the knife to scratch the letter "B" into her face, Richard said.

Richard said the woman refused medical treatment after the assault, which happened outside the view of the bank's surveillance cameras.

The robber is described as a dark-skinned black man, 6 feet 4 inches tall, 200 pounds with a medium build, short black hair and brown eyes. The man was wearing dark colored jeans, a black undershirt and black shoes.

The Obama-Biden campaign released a statement, commenting on the attack. The statement said "Our thoughts and prayers are with the young woman for her to make a speedy recovery, and we hope that the person who perpetrated this crime is swiftly apprehended and brought to justice."

Watch Channel 4 Action News at 5 p.m. for updates on this story

sorry ...... but I doubt this happened ...... Not saying Pittsburg is a freaking garden of Eden , it is a **** hole , I have been there enough on northshore to make this judgment , but no one is going ot take the time to mark someone up with the letter B , while the ATM's have cameras , and besides , from Squirrel tunnel all the way up to Newcastle , anytime night or day there are too many people out and about .......... witness would have seen something , and make no mistake about it , Pittsburg isnt Philly , you start knocking a woman around in Pitt , someone will take up for her guaranteed........ this is nothing more then another Joe the Plumber story

[TheDave]

weird story...

Luckily for her that looks to be a very superficial "carving"

[Bob]

Maybe the assailant's name was Bob?

Dont tell anyone, I am a closet Obama fan...

[Bob]

In all fairness -- again the extreme nut jobs are taking over -- too much hate on both sides to go around. Its always the 1% of the idiots that get air-time -- sad to say we will see more of this type of thing (if real) on both sides if we keep shreading each other apart and defining ourselves by party above country...

[spdirty]

Have to be at least a little skeptical about this, especailly since it happened outside of the eye of the camera, and if the chick turns out to be a liar, dlckheads on here will have multiple orgasms and doing their best to try to link every single conservative on this board to this and we will hear the we are all racist blah blah blah bullshlt.

I'm sure LABF is already working tirelessly trying to find dirt on her.

[Spider]

Have to be at least a little skeptical about this, especailly since it happened outside of the eye of the camera, and if the chick turns out to be a liar, dlckheads on here will have multiple orgasms and doing their best to try to link every single conservative on this board to this and we will hear the we are all racist blah blah blah bullshlt.

I'm sure LABF is already working tirelessly trying to find dirt on her.

hey now ...... I would do her ........... even with the B and the black eye

[Bronco Bob]

Have to be at least a little skeptical about this, especailly since it happened outside of the eye of the camera, and if the chick turns out to be a liar, dlckheads on here will have multiple orgasms and doing their best to try to link every single conservative on this board to this and we will hear the we are all racist blah blah blah bullshlt.

I'm sure LABF is already working tirelessly trying to find dirt on her.

Well, let me ask you this. Is this woman really a plumber?

[broncofan7]

I find the story hard to believe myself---that he took the time out after robbing her to carve a 'B' into her face and not to try and get away as quickly as possible.....

[spdirty]

hey now ...... I would do her ........... even with the B and the black eye

dude, you arent a typical dlckhead on here your just an a-hole. ;D

[spdirty]

I find the story hard to believe myself---that he took the time out after robbing her to carve a 'B' into her face and not to try and get away as quickly as possible.....

well, almost every thief is an idiot.

[spdirty]

Well, let me ask you this. Is this woman really a plumber?

yes.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I'm sure LABF is already working tirelessly trying to find dirt on her.

I just find it amusing how wingnuts like you are so eager to seize on stories like these.

It's pretty sad when your last hope for victory is the "Bradley effect." :D

[Spider]

dude, you arent a typical dlckhead on here your just an a-hole. ;D

LOL I got a story about azzholes .........
when man was first created , all the body parts could talk ...... So body parts got into an argument over what part should be boss......
The brain said ........ I should be boss cause with out me the body is nothing ......the eyes said nonsense , we should be boss , without us , you cant see ..
Arms said we should be boss , we feed the body ....
Legs said we should be boss , we carry all of the load .....
the azzhole said I should be boss ....... a;; the other body parts started laughing , pissing the azzhole off , so the azzhole closed up , the brain couldnt thino , the eyes filled up with tears , couldnt see , the arms and legs were to weak ot do anything ......... the moral of the story is , you dont have to be important to be a boss , just an azzhole ;D

[Bob]

Well, let me ask you this. Is this woman really a plumber?

And she owes back taxes....

[baja]

Or maybe the attacker was standing at the top of her head, facing her upside down from her viewpoint. How this can be attributed to Obama and his supporters is beyond me, slow news day I guess. Despicable act regardless.

Maybe he is dyslectic

[TheReverend]

I'd say the most suspiscious part is how gently the "B" is "carved" into her face. You've got a knife, you're incensed to the point of carving something into this woman's face, but instead of breaking skin, you're gently scratching it over and over?

[TailgateNut]

So you are saying a black man mugged her for the $60, then as he was walking away say a car with a McCain sticker on it and became so enraged he went back and took the time to carve a nice B in her face backwards with wonderfull curves. All while on a public street no less. Use some critical thinking skills please.

Critical thinking and McCain/Palin supporter should not be used in the same sentence.

[Garcia Bronco]

You mean like this?

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/9061/racistbf5.png

I would say your second picture is racist. This isn't. The guy is in favor of more taxes, in favor of abortions and has voted accordingly, and has voted to oppose the second amendment many times as a State Legislator. He was also raised by muslims, and attended a muslim school as a child. He does not support same sx "marriages"

[Garcia Bronco]

Yes but if he was over her head how was he holding her down?

Perhaps with a knife?

[El Guapo]

The robber is described as a dark-skinned black man, 6 feet 4 inches tall, 200 pounds with a medium build, short black hair and brown eyes and is voting for obama despite having no idea where obama stands on political issues. The man was wearing dark colored jeans, a black undershirt and black shoes.


fixed.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I would say your second picture is racist. This isn't.

Either your powers of perception leave a lot to be desired, or you are simply being dishonest. The turban on his head and the emphasis on "Hussein" are blatantly racist.

If you don't understand what I mean, then you might want to review the Powell endorsement.


The guy is in favor of more taxes

:bs:

Repeating the same lie over and over (like your man McBush) will not make it true.


in favor of abortions and has voted accordingly

:bs:

Supporting a woman's right to choose is not the same thing as "favoring" abortion.


and has voted to oppose the second amendment many times as a State Legislator.

:bs:

He doesn't "oppose the Second Amendment" any more than a person who opposes your "right" to yell "fire" in a crowded theater opposes the First Amendment.



He was also raised by muslims, and attended a muslim school as a child.

:bs:

He's a Christian.

[peacepipe]

Apparrently the police are doubtful as well, just announced that police gave her a polygragh test.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Apparrently the police are doubtful as well, just announced that police gave her a polygragh test.

Just when the racist, redneck idiots on this board were getting excited.

[peacepipe]

I would say your second picture is racist. This isn't. The guy is in favor of more taxes, in favor of abortions and has voted accordingly, and has voted to oppose the second amendment many times as a State Legislator. He was also raised by muslims, and attended a muslim school as a child. He does not support same sx "marriages"
You're obviously someone that probably is about as sharp as a bowling ball or just plain ignorant. The school was not a muslim school due to the fact christians attended this school as well. As a matter of fact children of all faiths attended this school. If it were truely a muslim school you wouldn't have children of different faiths attending it.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

You're obviously someone that probably is about as sharp as a bowling ball or just plain ignorant. The school was not a muslim school due to the fact christians attended this school as well. As a matter of fact children of all faiths attended this school. If it were truely a muslim school you wouldn't have children of different faiths attending it.

Look into Garcia's brain and all you will find are RNC talking points and the latest McCain/Palin smear du jour.

His loyalty to party and ideology always trumps facts, truth, and logic (not to mention country.)

[Garcia Bronco]

Either your powers of perception leave a lot to be desired, or you are simply being dishonest. The turban on his head and the emphasis on "Hussein" are blatantly racist.

If you don't understand what I mean, then you might want to review the Powell endorsement.



:bs:

Repeating the same lie over and over (like your man McBush) will not make it true.



:bs:

Supporting a woman's right to choose is not the same thing as "favoring" abortion.



:bs:

He doesn't "oppose the Second Amendment" any more than a person who opposes your "right" to yell "fire" in a crowded theater opposes the First Amendment.



:bs:

He's a Christian.


Refering to his middle name is not racist. I think you might want to re-evaluate your personal definition. Nor is the turban. Least we forget he actually wore one not to long ago. Obama is in favor of more taxes. Taxes on business and taxes on retirement accounts. Income tax as well. Just because you don't fall in that group doesn't mean that he's not raising taxes.

Abortion is murder. The pro-death crowd (I realize you like to use the word choice here as if some noble thing is going on), has Obama's support. He's voted against legislation to dis-allow late term abortions. Which means he supports abortion.

As an State Senator he voted against guns rights on several occasions.

Lastly, his father and step father were Muslims and he himself attended a muslim school. That makes him in part a muslim, regardless of whether he is a practicing muslim today. It doesn't means is a radical islamic fundmentalist either.

It soumds like you do not know your cabdidate all that well. You might want to read up. Maybe there is a cartoon out there that you can read. :)

[Garcia Bronco]

I'd say the most suspiscious part is how gently the "B" is "carved" into her face. You've got a knife, you're incensed to the point of carving something into this woman's face, but instead of breaking skin, you're gently scratching it over and over?

That was my same reaction as well.

[Garcia Bronco]

You're obviously someone that probably is about as sharp as a bowling ball or just plain ignorant. The school was not a muslim school due to the fact christians attended this school as well. As a matter of fact children of all faiths attended this school. If it were truely a muslim school you wouldn't have children of different faiths attending it.

It was a Muslim school. You and I have personally been over this and while there were Christans at this school, it was also a Muslim school. Get it over it. Nobody said it was a madrassa. If you combine that with the FACT that both his fathers were muslim and you now start to get the you are full of ****.

[Garcia Bronco]

Look into Garcia's brain and all you will find are RNC talking points and the latest McCain/Palin smear du jour.

His loyalty to party and ideology always trumps facts, truth, and logic (not to mention country.)

I am not a republican. I do not attend their meetings or what ever the hell they do. I do not give them money. You sir are projecting your own beliefs and the way you act about your party.

[barryr]

Of course, the mark that was carved is really upside down, not backwards, like someone would be doing it standing over the other person, which would be hard for someone to do this to themselves, but common sense doesn't play a part in much nowadays.

[peacepipe]

Of course, the mark that was carved is really upside down, not backwards, like someone would be doing it standing over the other person, which would be hard for someone to do this to themselves, but common sense doesn't play a part in much nowadays. It was upside down? get real.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

If you combine that with the FACT that both his fathers were muslim and you now start to get the you are full of ****.

"Both" his fathers? Hilarious!

[peacepipe]

Refering to his middle name is not racist. I think you might want to re-evaluate your personal definition. Nor is the turban. Least we forget he actually wore one not to long ago. Obama is in favor of more taxes. Taxes on business and taxes on retirement accounts. Income tax as well. Just because you don't fall in that group doesn't mean that he's not raising taxes.

Abortion is murder. The pro-death crowd (I realize you like to use the word choice here as if some noble thing is going on), has Obama's support. He's voted against legislation to dis-allow late term abortions. Which means he supports abortion.

As an State Senator he voted against guns rights on several occasions.

Lastly, his father and step father were Muslims and he himself attended a muslim school. That makes him in part a muslim, regardless of whether he is a practicing muslim today. It doesn't means is a radical islamic fundmentalist either.

It soumds like you do not know your cabdidate all that well. You might want to read up. Maybe there is a cartoon out there that you can read. :) enlighten me what sites should I go to for this info.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I am not a republican. I do not attend their meetings or what ever the hell they do. I do not give them money.

Then why are the vast majority of your posts nothing but parroted RNC talking points and McCain/Palin lies and smears?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

FactCheck.org (http://factcheck.org/) Debunks Muslim Smears:

http://fightthesmears.com/img/factcheckorg_logo.gif “Many emails have claimed that Obama was educated in an Islamic madrassa. Factcheck.org says “this allegation was quickly shown to be false.” And “news stories in The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times and The Chicago Tribune found no merit in the madrassa claim.”

Read this Article (http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_obama.html)

Newsweek (http://www.newsweek.com/) Also Debunks Muslim Smear:

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/3/baracksfaith “Barack Obama has never been Muslim and never practiced Islam. But rumors about his religion intended to frighten some voters persist, and they mostly return to one point of fact: his name. “Barack” is the candidate’s Kenyan father’s name; Obama’s middle name, “Hussein,” is his grandfather’s name. Obama has described his father as atheist or agnostic. His Kansan mom, whose grandparents were devout Protestants, lived a secular life. Obama’s only personal contact with Islam came as a boy when he moved to Jakarta, Indonesia, with a stepfather who mixed his Islam with Hindu and Animist traditions. In five years there, Obama attended a Roman Catholic school, then a public elementary school, where he sat through a class each week of religious studies. As an adult, Obama turned to Christianity in the late ’80s in Chicago, at Trinity United Church of Christ, where he was baptized, married‹and baptized his kids. As a new U.S. senator, Obama took his oath on the family Bible.”
Read this Article (http://www.newsweek.com/id/143763?from=rss)

The Boston Globe (http://www.boston.com/) Debunks Muslim Smear Too:

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/3/baracksfaith “Obama is a member of the United Church of Christ. His Kenyan paternal grandfather and Indonesian stepfather were Muslim, but he attended secular and Catholic schools and was never a practicing Muslim.”

[Garcia Bronco]

Then why are the vast majority of your posts nothing but parroted RNC talking points and McCain/Palin lies and smears?

They are not smears. They are not lies. They are the truths of who Obama is. I do not belong to one party. I think they are a disease.

[Garcia Bronco]

enlighten me what sites should I go to for this info.

I would google his state voting record. There are more than a few out there that detail his abortion votes and guns votes. I would then google his tax plan. Pay particular attention how he wants to tax businesses and look at capital gains and what he wants to do there. His father and step father were both muslims. He even says in his own books that he was raised as a muslim. It's all right there in front of. The reasons NOT to vote for him though are his tax plans. Which honestly, won't hardly see the light of day. No President in recent history, except George W Bush, has actually lowered taxes on the middle class. Now after you look at all these things remember this: Obama is a better choice than McCain.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Powell endorses Obama for president

Excerpt:

Powell also told NBC’s Tom Brokaw that he was “troubled” by Republicans’ personal attacks on Obama, especially false intimations that Obama was Muslim and the recent focus on Obama’s alleged connections to William Ayers, a co-founder of the radical ’60 Weather Underground. Stressing that Obama was a lifelong Christian, Powell denounced Republican tactics that he said were insulting not only to to Obama but also to Muslims.


“The really right answer is what if he is?” Powell said, praising the contributions of millions of Muslim citizens to American society.


“I look at these kind of approaches to the campaign, and they trouble me,” Powell said. “Over the last seven weeks, the approach of the Republican Party has become narrower and narrower.”


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27265369/

[Rohirrim]

That "B" looks exactly the way a letter would look if you were doing it in the mirror and forgot to do it backwards. :rofl:

Meanwhile, GB is a slimeball. I'm sure he'll appreciate it next week when McCain makes his final push to the polls with his new slogan, "Hey, look everybody! Obama is black!" Ha!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

They are not smears. They are not lies.

Not only are they lies and smears - they have been debunked (as I just showed you with several sources.)

Your insistence on believing and repeating lies even when you are proven wrong is pathetic.

[Garcia Bronco]

Powell endorses Obama for president

Excerpt:



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27265369/

You are the one acting like his Muslim heritage is a problem. Not me. But don't act like it doesn't exist either.

[Garcia Bronco]

Meanwhile, GB is a slimeball. I'm sure he'll appreciate it next week when McCain makes his final push to the polls with his new slogan, "Hey, look everybody! Obama is black!" Ha!

LOL. Like you matter.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Meanwhile, GB is a slimeball. I'm sure he'll appreciate it next week when McCain makes his final push to the polls with his new slogan, "Hey, look everybody! Obama is black!" Ha!

Yep.

He is one thoroughly despicable, racist idiot.

People like GB are an embarrassment to America - I'm so glad they are no longer going to be representing us to the rest of the world.

[Garcia Bronco]

Not only are they lies and smears - they have been debunked (as I just showed you with several sources.)

Your insistence on believing and repeating lies even when you are proven wrong is pathetic.

You didn't "debunk" anything. You listed no sources with proof of anything.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

You are the one acting like his Muslim heritage is a problem. Not me. But don't act like it doesn't exist either.

You're a lying sack of sh*t.

You brought it up in an attempt to use it as a smear.

[Garcia Bronco]

You're a lying sack of sh*t.

You brought it up in an attempt to use it as a smear.

No. I brought it up to show that a sign posted was not racist. And it wasn't. I love how when you can't prove you point you and Roh like to get personal. It means you lost.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

You didn't "debunk" anything. You listed no sources with proof of anything.

Done right here:

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=2139025&postcount=59

All you are doing here is proving the adage that you can lead a jackass to the facts but you can't make him think.

[Mr.Meanie]

Refering to his middle name is not racist. I think you might want to re-evaluate your personal definition. Nor is the turban.

Racism is when you change your actions negatively solely based on ethnicity. I have never heard anyone refer to McCain as John Sidney McCain III...not once. So doing it for one guy and not the other shows there is a reason behind it, and the reason is to infer a connection with Saddam Hussien, obviously. That IS racism.

And saying putting a turban on his head in that picture isn't blatant racism is beyond belief. If someone put up a picture of Obama eating fried chicken and watermelon, but claimed it's not racist because he's actually eaten them before, would you defend that?

Everything about that billboard is designed to invoke fear and hatred. It's sad that we still have that in this country, but what's even more sad is the people who sincerely defend that garbage.

[Garcia Bronco]

Yep.

He is one thoroughly despicable, racist idiot.



LOL. You make me laugh.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

No. I brought it up to show that a sign posted was not racist. And it wasn't.

The sign was racist - and your defending it makes you a racist.



I love how when you can't prove you point you and Roh like to get personal. It means you lost.

No - it means your racist idiocy is offensive.

[Rohirrim]

Racism is when you change your actions negatively solely based on ethnicity. I have never heard anyone refer to McCain as John Sidney McCain III...not once. So doing it for one guy and not the other shows there is a reason behind it, and the reason is to infer a connection with Saddam Hussien, obviously. That IS racism.

And saying putting a turban on his head in that picture isn't blatant racism is beyond belief. If someone put up a picture of Obama eating fried chicken and watermelon, but claimed it's not racist because he's actually eaten them before, would you defend that?

Everything about that billboard is designed to invoke fear and hatred. It's sad that we still have that in this country, but what's even more sad is the people who sincerely defend that garbage.

GB is coyly pretending that as long as he says nothing overt he can't be accused of the obvious. It's a very old game.

[Bronco X]

Not even Michelle freakin' Malkin is falling for this story:

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/23/why-that-mccain-volunteers-mutilation-story-smells-awfully-weird/

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

LOL. You make me laugh.

You make me want to puke.

You are the enemy of everything good America has ever stood for.

[Rohirrim]

Not even Michelle freakin' Malkin is falling for this story:

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/23/why-that-mccain-volunteers-mutilation-story-smells-awfully-weird/

The "B" is backwards, folks. She did it in the mirror and was such a trog she didn't take that into account.

[Garcia Bronco]

Racism is when you change your actions negatively solely based on ethnicity. I have never heard anyone refer to McCain as John Sidney McCain III...not once. So doing it for one guy and not the other shows there is a reason behind it, and the reason is to infer a connection with Saddam Hussien, obviously. That IS racism.


This is in your mind. It's a name. It's his middle name. If there is no connection to Saddam (which there isn't) why would you care? It's not racism to use some one's middle name.

[alkemical]

Or maybe the attacker was standing at the top of her head, facing her upside down from her viewpoint. How this can be attributed to Obama and his supporters is beyond me, slow news day I guess. Despicable act regardless.

Tea Bagged?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Racism is when you change your actions negatively solely based on ethnicity. I have never heard anyone refer to McCain as John Sidney McCain III...not once. So doing it for one guy and not the other shows there is a reason behind it, and the reason is to infer a connection with Saddam Hussien, obviously. That IS racism.

And saying putting a turban on his head in that picture isn't blatant racism is beyond belief. If someone put up a picture of Obama eating fried chicken and watermelon, but claimed it's not racist because he's actually eaten them before, would you defend that?

Everything about that billboard is designed to invoke fear and hatred. It's sad that we still have that in this country, but what's even more sad is the people who sincerely defend that garbage.

Ding ding ding! :yep:

It's morally reprehensible, and GB should be ashamed of himself for defending it (but that would assume he has a sense of shame.)

[Garcia Bronco]

And saying putting a turban on his head in that picture isn't blatant racism is beyond belief. If someone put up a picture of Obama eating fried chicken and watermelon, but claimed it's not racist because he's actually eaten them before, would you defend that?

Everything about that billboard is designed to invoke fear and hatred. It's sad that we still have that in this country, but what's even more sad is the people who sincerely defend that garbage.

It's from an actual picture of Obama. It's not racism.

"If someone put up a picture of Obama eating fried chicken and watermelon, but claimed it's not racist because he's actually eaten them before, would you defend that"

The next picture Old Dude posted was a Monkey eating a banna. That is certainly racisty and I said so. You guys really need to take the time to read the entire post.

That billboard has many truths to it. But as we've discussed. Many of you have not done your research on the candidate.

[Garcia Bronco]

The sign was racist - and your defending it makes you a racist.



No - it means your racist idiocy is offensive.

It only racist in your mind

[alkemical]

Refering to his middle name is not racist. I think you might want to re-evaluate your personal definition. Nor is the turban. Least we forget he actually wore one not to long ago. Obama is in favor of more taxes. Taxes on business and taxes on retirement accounts. Income tax as well. Just because you don't fall in that group doesn't mean that he's not raising taxes.

Abortion is murder. The pro-death crowd (I realize you like to use the word choice here as if some noble thing is going on), has Obama's support. He's voted against legislation to dis-allow late term abortions. Which means he supports abortion.

As an State Senator he voted against guns rights on several occasions.

Lastly, his father and step father were Muslims and he himself attended a muslim school. That makes him in part a muslim, regardless of whether he is a practicing muslim today. It doesn't means is a radical islamic fundmentalist either.

It soumds like you do not know your cabdidate all that well. You might want to read up. Maybe there is a cartoon out there that you can read. :)


http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=2119683&postcount=56


No, the intentions aren't racist. It's a linguistic-programming technique - using associative words to conotate that he's not "just" muslim, but the underlying belief that muslims=terrorists. It's a trick, it's like an optical illusion but with linguistics. Many people will already free-associate to that conclusion, without anyone having to actually "say it".

[Garcia Bronco]

You make me want to puke.

You are the enemy of everything good America has ever stood for.

Now that you've gotten that all out of your system. Yawn.

[Garcia Bronco]

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=2119683&postcount=56

That's all dependent of someone's perception which cannot be quantified.

[alkemical]

That's all dependent of someone's perception which cannot be quantified.

My point still stands and is correct.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

It only racist in your mind

It's now crystal clear that you are either (a) some sort of congenital idiot who is incapable of processing even the most basic information, (b) the ultimate poster boy for arrested social and moral development, or (c) both.

In any case, you are a waste of time (not to mention a total waste of human DNA) so welcome to my ignore list. :welcome:

[Garcia Bronco]

It's now crystal clear that you are either (a) some sort of congenital idiot who is incapable of processing even the most basic information, (b) the ultimate poster boy for arrested social and moral development, or (c) both.

In any case, you are a waste of time (not to mention a total waste of human DNA) so welcome to my ignore list. :welcome:

LOL. Will this be the WAGS ignore list function where you still read my posts, or are you really going to ignore me all together? Poor LABF, he just can't handle his perceptions being pointed out as wrong.

[Garcia Bronco]

My point still stands and is correct.

I am saying you couldn't depend on it in a one-to-one senario. Nor can one gauge whether you'll get the intended results.

[Spider]

Of course, the mark that was carved is really upside down, not backwards, like someone would be doing it standing over the other person, which would be hard for someone to do this to themselves, but common sense doesn't play a part in much nowadays.

:rofl: squirrel headed bastard ........

[Mr.Meanie]

It's from an actual picture of Obama. It's not racism.

"If someone put up a picture of Obama eating fried chicken and watermelon, but claimed it's not racist because he's actually eaten them before, would you defend that"

The next picture Old Dude posted was a Monkey eating a banna. That is certainly racisty and I said so. You guys really need to take the time to read the entire post.

That billboard has many truths to it. But as we've discussed. Many of you have not done your research on the candidate.

Nice way to skip over my point. I read what you said about the monkey picture.

But answer my question:

Say someone put up a picture of Obama eating fried chicken and watermelon, and drinking malt liquor. Would you say that's not racist if he's actually eaten fried chicken and watermelon and drank malt liquor?

[alkemical]

I am saying you couldn't depend on it in a one-to-one senario. Nor can one gauge whether you'll get the intended results.

LOL, dude - it's ok to say i'm right.

[Garcia Bronco]

Nice way to skip over my point. I read what you said about the monkey picture.

But answer my question:

Say someone put up a picture of Obama eating fried chicken and watermelon, and drinking malt liquor. Would you say that's not racist if he's actually eaten fried chicken and watermelon and drank malt liquor?

Maybe. It depends on your perception. Does not eating chicken, melon, and drinking malt liquor give someone racial suprority? Does the picture show intolerance to another race? Probably, but it's all perception based. The race baiters are going to have a hard time making a living after this election.

[TheReverend]

Nice way to skip over my point. I read what you said about the monkey picture.

But answer my question:

Say someone put up a picture of Obama eating fried chicken and watermelon, and drinking malt liquor. Would you say that's not racist if he's actually eaten fried chicken and watermelon and drank malt liquor?

I'm not sure I'd call it racist as much as funny! If someone made a picture of me going ape **** over sauerkraut and getting hammered, I wouldn't mind the stereotype.

[TailgateNut]

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=2119683&postcount=56



That'l go over his head. Anything "implied" doesn't exist in his "black and white"/ err: "printed" world.

[TailgateNut]

It's now crystal clear that you are either (a) some sort of congenital idiot who is incapable of processing even the most basic information, (b) the ultimate poster boy for arrested social and moral development, or (c) both.

In any case, you are a waste of time (not to mention a total waste of human DNA) so welcome to my ignore list. :welcome:



It sure took a long time for you to realize that GB is a total waste of time. His tunnel vision should be recorded in the Guiness Book of world records.

[Mr.Meanie]

Maybe. It depends on your perception. Does not eating chicken, melon, and drinking malt liquor give someone racial suprority? Does the picture show intolerance to another race? Probably, but it's all perception based. The race baiters are going to have a hard time making a living after this election.

I agree it's perception based, like anything. You could argue that the tragedy of 9/11 is perception based. You would have to be an idiot to argue that, but it's an argument.

Stereotypes are also based on perception. It seems like your argument is that stereotypes can't ever be racist because it depends if you believe they are stereotypes.

By the way, I'm kind of surprised that you would argue that perceptions skew where you stand on issues. That's a fairly nuanced world-view. I'm sure you apply the same view to things like...oh...say... pro-choice perceptions... right? Let your perception of the moral right or wrongness of abortion be your guide...right?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

It sure took a long time for you to realize that GB is a total waste of time. His tunnel vision should be recorded in the Guiness Book of world records.

I used to think he was pretty harmless - just the OM's village idiot - but this thread really opened my eyes to how morally reprehensible and socially retarded the guy really is.

The sort of racist crap he is championing here is just vile.

[colorado jones]

Maybe. It depends on your perception. Does not eating chicken, melon, and drinking malt liquor give someone racial suprority? Does the picture show intolerance to another race? Probably, but it's all perception based. The race baiters are going to have a hard time making a living after this election.

Does this mean your going to be out of a job soon?

[cutthemdown]

LOL. Will this be the WAGS ignore list function where you still read my posts, or are you really going to ignore me all together? Poor LABF, he just can't handle his perceptions being pointed out as wrong.

LABF is always right white people are racists unless they agree with him. That's just how he operates.

[Garcia Bronco]

I used to think he was pretty harmless - just the OM's village idiot - but this thread really opened my eyes to how morally reprehensible and socially retarded the guy really is.

The sort of racist crap he is championing here is just vile.

Lose the phoney outrage.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

LABF is always right white people are racists unless they agree with him. That's just how he operates.

That you could read this thread and reach that conclusion proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are a complete idiot.

[Garcia Bronco]

I agree it's perception based, like anything. You could argue that the tragedy of 9/11 is perception based. You would have to be an idiot to argue that, but it's an argument.

Stereotypes are also based on perception. It seems like your argument is that stereotypes can't ever be racist because it depends if you believe they are stereotypes.

By the way, I'm kind of surprised that you would argue that perceptions skew where you stand on issues. That's a fairly nuanced world-view. I'm sure you apply the same view to things like...oh...say... pro-choice perceptions... right? Let your perception of the moral right or wrongness of abortion be your guide...right?

Well. All I know is all races of people are capable of the same things. Same goes with gender. We are all human and hopefully in the next 25 years we'll get past it.

What pro-chice perceptions would you like to discuss?

[Garcia Bronco]

That you could read this thread and reach that conclusion proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are a complete idiot.

Can you go ten posts withut calling someone else names? Are you so incapable of having a discussion in a polite manner?

[Spider]

Can you go ten posts withut calling someone else names? Are you so incapable of having a discussion in a polite manner?

****ing hippie ;D ......... I tried

[Garcia Bronco]

Does this mean your going to be out of a job soon?

I am not a race baiter. In fact I have probably dealt more with other races than most of the people on this board in mission work alone. I am talking about going to Indian Reservations and building homes. I am talking about going to Katrina wasted homes and helping people rebuild. But you don't know that about me.

[Garcia Bronco]

****ing hippie ;D ......... I tried

LOL. You are a special bird. We had a discussion at the tailgate of who would you not want to run into in a dark alley. Guess who was top of my list? :)

[Spider]

LOL. You are a special bird. We had a discussion at the tailgate of who would you not want to run into in a dark alley. Guess who was top of my list? :)

Ghaff ;D

[Garcia Bronco]

Ghaff ;D

You got it. :)

[Spider]

You got it. :)

;D

[Spider]

funny thing , I am here in Springfield Missouri , sitting at a T/A at exit 88 , I ordered a triple steak burrito , diet pepsi , walked outside , Shouted I was full ( like on the Taco bell commercials) and to my shock no one gave a damn , I did have 1 person yell shut the hell up I am on the phone ;D

[jsco70]

I am not a race baiter. In fact I have probably dealt more with other races than most of the people on this board in mission work alone. I am talking about going to Indian Reservations and building homes. I am talking about going to Katrina wasted homes and helping people rebuild. But you don't know that about me.

I don't know you from Adam and I know you couldn't care less what I think. Regardless, in my opinion, some of your comments in this thread have been incredibly ignorant. However, to me it's pointless to bother discussing this further because neither one of us will change the others mind, and I don't engage in internet mudslinging contests.

As for the topic at hand, this ATM attack seems dubious in my mind. If it is true, then it's just another in a long list of examples of how far this country has fallen.

[Garcia Bronco]

I don't know you from Adam and I know you couldn't care less what I think. Regardless, in my opinion, some of your comments in this thread have been incredibly ignorant. However, to me it's pointless to bother discussing this further because neither one of us will change the others mind, and I don't engage in internet mudslinging contests.

As for the topic at hand, this ATM attack seems dubious in my mind. If it is true, then it's just another in a long list of examples of how far this country has fallen.


People get robbed all the time. At the end of the day we are talking about robbery.

You would be wrong. I care what you think to a degree. I keep an open mind and like to discuss things. So what seems "ignorant" to you?

[Paladin]

Ummm. Please read the "corrected incident" story elsewhere. This non-event has driven several pages of drivel ans slobber over nothing. Gosh. Really?

The Information Age really is not, is it?

[broncofan7]

LOL--i think that most of us knew that this story was hogwash.......

[Beantown Bronco]

I did have 1 person yell shut the hell up I am on the phone ;D

Hope you punched him in the throat for that one.

[SJ Bronco]

Whole thing called a hoax according to MSNBC

[broncofan7]

Whole thing called a hoax according to MSNBC

yup--as noted by many of us--it really didn't make sense. Let it be noted that this woman is an AGGIE..'nuff said.

[Pseudofool]

http://kdka.com/local/attack.McCain.Bloomfield.2.847628.html
A Pittsburgh police commander told KDKA Investigator Marty Griffin that Ashley Todd confessed to making up the story & is facing charges

[Spider]

Of course, the mark that was carved is really upside down, not backwards, like someone would be doing it standing over the other person, which would be hard for someone to do this to themselves, but common sense doesn't play a part in much nowadays.

Yeah about that Barry .Funny thing just happened ........... The woman made it up ......... ROFL! you dope

[epicSocialism4tw]

I am not a race baiter. In fact I have probably dealt more with other races than most of the people on this board in mission work alone. I am talking about going to Indian Reservations and building homes. I am talking about going to Katrina wasted homes and helping people rebuild. But you don't know that about me.

Most of these people think that they have some sort of abstract moral authority on these issues because they have faith in the authors of their liberal philosophies.

They do not understand (as is shown as a common consequence of modern liberal moral constructs) that words are worthless, and that actions tell the story.

The same people that get ticked at the super wealthy for having power are the ones who give a small % of their income to better the poor. They would rather take it from others and have them take care of the poor. This is shown in their words and deeds, as they rarely give of themselves.

[gyldenlove]

I am happy I stayed out of this one, I didn't make a fool of myself over a non-story and I didn't get punched in the throat. 2 wins in 1 day!

[Spider]

Hope you punched him in the throat for that one.

LOL if he hadnt been on the phone he would have got throat punched

[Spider]

I am happy I stayed out of this one, I didn't make a fool of myself over a non-story and I didn't get punched in the throat. 2 wins in 1 day!

Day is still young cupcake ;D

[Traveler]

The mysterious "dark skinned" individual strikes again.... NOT!

[SJ Bronco]

For the record, Garcia has been banned for racial slurs on this site before. Lets make a billboard of those facts. Some people are racist because they don't even know they are hurting people when they do it. That sign is clear in it's intentions, to defend it is just wrong. It reminds me of the Ass hats on Faux news defending some guy here in the bay area that hung a ghost by a noose from a tree in his front yard with the word Obama on it. Maybe it's not spelled out for you, but the intention is clear. If it's not, your a racist. Is that simple enough for you?

[gyldenlove]

Day is still young cupcake ;D

Bring it, I will be ready :strong:

[SJ Bronco]

The mysterious "dark skinned" individual strikes again.... NOT!

It's like the dave chappelle joke.

"who is this generic black man that keeps committing all these crimes"

he continues to do an impression of the call from dispatch for the police

"calling all cars, be on the look out for a black male. He's between 5'2 and 6' 10. He's got a hat on and he's wearing nikes. Get this man!"

Then he gets to the part with the police sketch artist

"ok, maam, can you describe your attacker."

"yes he was about average high, average build...and oh, he was black"

"say no more maam, big lips wide nose...I can draw him from memory. In fact I'll get my stencil and save us some time"

---------------------------------------------------------------

Cracks me up every time.....:rofl:

[alkemical]

For the record, Garcia has been banned for racial slurs on this site before. Lets make a billboard of those facts. Some people are racist because they don't even know they are hurting people when they do it. That sign is clear in it's intentions, to defend it is just wrong. It reminds me of the Ass hats on Faux news defending some guy here in the bay area that hung a ghost by a noose from a tree in his front yard with the word Obama on it. Maybe it's not spelled out for you, but the intention is clear. If it's not, your a racist. Is that simple enough for you?

Now here's a question:

Say i make a guillotine and put a mannequin in it with OBAMA written on it, and setup a prop display. Would that make me racist? Or would it just be hanging it, be a racist action?

[Paladin]

Bring it, I will be ready :strong:

He can't drive to Denmark......

Safe play there, sparkie...

[alkemical]

He can't drive to Denmark......

Safe play there, sparkie...

Ice road truckers man.....

[SJ Bronco]

Now here's a question:

Say i make a guillotine and put a mannequin in it with OBAMA written on it, and setup a prop display. Would that make me racist? Or would it just be hanging it, be a racist action?

Good question....The connotation in hanging is a real sensative issue for black people. Most white people know that, that's why the nooses have come out at the plain rally. It is a reference , obviously, to the days when a black man could be hung without a trial for any crime in the south. A guillotine, honestly, would just be poor taste.

[alkemical]

Good question....The connotation in hanging is a real sensative issue for black people. Most white people know that, that's why the nooses have come out at the plain rally. It is a reference , obviously, to the days when a black man could be hung without a trial for any crime in the south. A guillotine, honestly, would just be poor taste.

Ok, well - i'm asking because i understood the ties to lynching and to groups like the KKK and whatnot - i was looking for where that line is.

Poor taste? Is there a better way to mock-kill a black man? You know, with taste and style? :)

[SJ Bronco]

Ok, well - i'm asking because i understood the ties to lynching and to groups like the KKK and whatnot - i was looking for where that line is.

Poor taste? Is there a better way to mock-kill a black man? You know, with taste and style? :)

:thumbsup: Yes, but not the future president of the united states!

[gyldenlove]

He can't drive to Denmark......

Safe play there, sparkie...

I am in Ontario, about 150 miles from Detroit if you want to come get me. I live dangerously - oh yeah! 8')

[gyldenlove]

Ok, well - i'm asking because i understood the ties to lynching and to groups like the KKK and whatnot - i was looking for where that line is.

Poor taste? Is there a better way to mock-kill a black man? You know, with taste and style? :)

Slowly submerging him into a lawn pool of ill-tempered mutated sea-bass with lasers attached to their heads.

[alkemical]

:thumbsup: Yes, but not the future president of the united states!

lol - but you get what i'm saying, right?

[alkemical]

Slowly submerging him into a lawn pool of ill-tempered mutated sea-bass with lasers attached to their heads.

;D

[SJ Bronco]

lol - but you get what i'm saying, right?

No, of course I do. Its was a poor choice of words on my part. I should have said any display of such is low class.

[alkemical]

No, of course I do. Its was a poor choice of words on my part. I should have said any display of such is low class.

Well, here's another question - and mind you - i'm a white guy - so maybe i'm just bein' a cracka here:

Where does the line go with what's racist, and just stupid? Can something stupid not be racist? If we hung people for being treasonous in our countries history, is all references to lynching racist?

I mean, would it be more racist if say, the obamadoll was "shot" in a drive by?


(Look guys, i know i'm being silly - but i'm trying to use absurdism to find out where we draw our own lines)

[tnedator]

Well, here's another question - and mind you - i'm a white guy - so maybe i'm just bein' a cracka here:

Where does the line go with what's racist, and just stupid? Can something stupid not be racist? If we hung people for being treasonous in our countries history, is all references to lynching racist?

I mean, would it be more racist if say, the obamadoll was "shot" in a drive by?


(Look guys, i know i'm being silly - but i'm trying to use absurdism to find out where we draw our own lines)

I guess along those lines, if Imos (who I think is an idiot) had said something like "greasy headed skanks" it would have been bad, but not racist?

The 'race card' is pulled quite often in today's society. Sometimes legitimately, sometimes not. Don't get me wrong, there is a LOT of racism in this country, however, quite often when the race card is pulled, it is total BS.

[SJ Bronco]

Well, here's another question - and mind you - i'm a white guy - so maybe i'm just bein' a cracka here:

Where does the line go with what's racist, and just stupid? Can something stupid not be racist? If we hung people for being treasonous in our countries history, is all references to lynching racist?

I mean, would it be more racist if say, the obamadoll was "shot" in a drive by?


(Look guys, i know i'm being silly - but i'm trying to use absurdism to find out where we draw our own lines)

Lynching of any black figure or any "known" sympathizers with the non-white agenda, will be construed as racist. Fair or not, that's the truth. It's a hot button, sore spot issue. Just like the any references to monkeys, fried chicken, and "running QB". Some things are just beyond your control. Stupid is the fact that 75% of all "drive by's" were black victims. Truth sucks.

[SJ Bronco]

I guess along those lines, if Imos (who I think is an idiot) had said something like "greasy headed skanks" it would have been bad, but not racist?

The 'race card' is pulled quite often in today's society. Sometimes legitimately, sometimes not. Don't get me wrong, there is a LOT of racism in this country, however, quite often when the race card is pulled, it is total BS.

And as a (half) black man, I think when the race card is pulled unjustly, it does more damage to the black community than the white. This is why racial relations are going backward in this country. Black people praying on so called "white guilt" to win any argument, have cause white people to rally the racism in the same way, facing injustice. It cause anger to be wrongly accused. That's how it all started on the other side.

[SJ Bronco]

All this from a half black man, who has a black father who is a registered republican and is voting for McCain. My mother is a white catholic voting for Obama. That's how backward my family is.

[tnedator]

And as a (half) black man, I think when the race card is pulled unjustly, it does more damage to the black community than the white. This is why racial relations are going backward in this country. Black people praying on so called "white guilt" to win any argument, have cause white people to rally the racism in the same way, facing injustice. It cause anger to be wrongly accused. That's how it all started on the other side.

I'm sure they have done a lot of good, but Jesse Jackson and Sharpton showing up everytime a high profile black person is accused of a crime, no matter how guilty the person appears to be, no matter how strong the case, and screaming racism in front of every camera, just makes race relations worse, not better.

My wife's nephew is half black, growing up in a small town in the south. He is surrounded by a lot of bigoted people, that make his life very rough at times. However, idiots like Jackson and Sharpton make things worse, because their actions in the media make sure that a lot kids growing up are just as bigoted as their parents, because they see these idiots on TV that defend murders and rapists with the "race card" and say, "shucks, I guess daddy was riggghhhttt about them people."

It pisses me off, because while I am sure they mean good, and help plenty of people, in the grander scheme, they broaden the racial gap, rather than closing it.

All this from a half black man, who has a black father who is a registered republican and is voting for McCain. My mother is a white catholic voting for Obama. That's how backward my family is.

I had to chuckle at this.

[SJ Bronco]

I'm sure they have done a lot of good, but Jesse Jackson and Sharpton showing up everytime a high profile black person is accused of a crime, no matter how guilty the person appears to be, no matter how strong the case, and screaming racism in front of every camera, just makes race relations worse, not better.

My wife's nephew is half black, growing up in a small town in the south. He is surrounded by a lot of bigoted people, that make his life very rough at times. However, idiots like Jackson and Sharpton make things worse, because their actions in the media make sure that a lot kids growing up are just as bigoted as their parents, because they see these idiots on TV that defend murders and rapists with the "race card" and say, "shucks, I guess daddy was riggghhhttt about them people."

It pisses me off, because while I am sure they mean good, and help plenty of people, in the grander scheme, they broaden the racial gap, rather than closing it.



I had to chuckle at this.

Most black people hate Jackson and Sharpton. It's kinda like the uneducated hate mongering morons that follow ann coulter. Black people have there moron public figures too.

[tnedator]

Most black people hate Jackson and Sharpton. It's kinda like the uneducated hate mongering morons that follow ann coulter. Black people have there moron public figures too.

We need to round all the zealots up and ship them off to Russia, and then on a clear day, they will be able to see a small island off the coast of Alaska...

[alkemical]

Lynching of any black figure or any "known" sympathizers with the non-white agenda, will be construed as racist. Fair or not, that's the truth. It's a hot button, sore spot issue. Just like the any references to monkeys, fried chicken, and "running QB". Some things are just beyond your control. Stupid is the fact that 75% of all "drive by's" were black victims. Truth sucks.

it's cool, i agree with you actually. I was just seeing if there was anything maybe i didn't see before. That and some humor...you have to laugh at how silly some people really are.

[Bronco Bob]

We need to round all the zealots up and ship them off to Russia, and then on a clear day, they will be able to see a small island off the coast of Alaska...

Why would the Russians want them?

[tnedator]

Why would the Russians want them?

They wouldn't, but it's part of the get tough with Russia doctrine. Ship off all the left and right wing wackos.

[Garcia Bronco]

For the record, Garcia has been banned for racial slurs on this site before. Lets make a billboard of those facts. Some people are racist because they don't even know they are hurting people when they do it. That sign is clear in it's intentions, to defend it is just wrong. It reminds me of the Ass hats on Faux news defending some guy here in the bay area that hung a ghost by a noose from a tree in his front yard with the word Obama on it. Maybe it's not spelled out for you, but the intention is clear. If it's not, your a racist. Is that simple enough for you?

For the record you are a liar sack of crap. I have never been banned from this site for any reason. There are no slurs on that sign and there are truths on that sign. I am sorry if that hurts your feeling.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

He's "not a republican," but when a fraudulent GOP stunt like this one happens, GB is always right there starting the first thread about it (see "lipstick on a pig") or hyping the story.

[Garcia Bronco]

He's "not a republican," but when a fraudulent GOP stunt like this one happens, GB is always right there starting the first thread about it (see "lipstick on a pig") or hyping the story.

I said it was fraudulant from the get go. At least the "carving" portion of it. I am generally even-handed.

[SJ Bronco]

For the record you are a liar sack of crap. I have never been banned from this site for any reason. There are no slurs on that sign and there are truths on that sign. I am sorry if that hurts your feeling.

Since the site was purged a while back when it was moved to the new address in 2001, I can't prove it and you know it, but I remember you getting banned for throwing racial slurs my way. Calling me a black apologist because I liked the movie glory and something about monkeys. Why would I lie? I have no reason too. You have shown your racial hatred more than once on this board, everyone knows it anyway. I'm not telling them anything new.

[Garcia Bronco]

Since the site was purged a while back when it was moved to the new address in 2001, I can't prove it and you know it, but I remember you getting banned for throwing racial slurs my way. Calling me a black apologist because I liked the movie glory and something about monkeys. Why would I lie? I have no reason too. You have shown your racial hatred more than once on this board, everyone knows it anyway. I'm not telling them anything new.

So the site was moved in 2001? The year it was created? And while TJ and I were the only moderators he banned me? And I was still a moderator for another 6 years after that? You have me confused with someone else. Also changing the address wouldn't do anything to the database. We did switch to v-bulletin and some point in 02/03, but I have never been banned here. We went online here roughly 4/17/01. You owe me an apology.

[SJ Bronco]

I'm not going to apologize for something I know is true. You know it's true, but you know I can't prove it since this site has been purged twice of old threads. Just own up to it dude. I'm not even mad about it, I just think people need to know where our coming from on race issues.

[SJ Bronco]

An yes it was TJ who banned you, and it was just for a few days. I was sent an IM apology and didn't mention it after that. Why, cause I don't hold grudges.

[Garcia Bronco]

You are a liar. I have never used IM and I have never been banned. You owe me an apology. Ask TJ it you are so sure. You'll find that you are wrong. Why would TJ ban me and keep me as a moderator for another 6 years? Get real.

[SJ Bronco]

You are a liar. I have never used IM and I have never been banned. You owe me an apology. Ask TJ it you are so sure. You'll find that you are wrong. Why would TJ ban me and keep me as a moderator for another 6 years? Get real.

Because just like it was said at the time. Your not a bad guy, you just said something that I don't think you knew was offensive. I even backed you up on it. So much for that.

[Garcia Bronco]

Listen to the lunacy coming out of your mouth. I was banned and still kept as a moderator? Wouldn't happen. Ever. I know TJ well enough to know that wouldn't fly. And most longtimers know that as well.

[SJ Bronco]

Listen to the lunacy coming out of your mouth. I was banned and still kept as a moderator? Wouldn't happen. Ever. I know TJ well enough to know that wouldn't fly. And most longtimers know that as well.

Nice job giving me the negative rep BTW:thumbs:

[Garcia Bronco]

Nice job giving me the negative rep BTW:thumbs:

And what did I say in that rep? I take your false accusation seriously. I have never been banned here, nor did I fling a racial slur at you.

[SJ Bronco]

Fine, it wasn't you, I was wrong..... Convo over....

[SJ Bronco]

And what did I say in that rep? I take your false accusation seriously. I have never been banned here, nor did I fling a racial slur at you.

Oh wait you wanted an apology. ....sorry....I humbly apologize.

[Garcia Bronco]

Thank you. Apology accepted.

[baja]

Huh?

[SJ Bronco]

Huh?

My mom used to say:

You can get the same sound out of a pig if you kick it hard enough. Never said if it was wearing lipstick or not though...

[TheReverend]

Glory was an awesome movie.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Since the site was purged a while back when it was moved to the new address in 2001, I can't prove it and you know it, but I remember you getting banned for throwing racial slurs my way. Calling me a black apologist because I liked the movie glory and something about monkeys. Why would I lie? I have no reason too. You have shown your racial hatred more than once on this board, everyone knows it anyway. I'm not telling them anything new.

I know there are others here who can vouch for this.

[Garcia Bronco]

I know there are others here who can vouch for this.

You know it didn't happen either. In fact, you were still over at that DPO getting the place shutdown with all that hyper-linking to your cartoons. Again the lunacy. TJ would not have allowed me to be a moderator if he had to ban me. SJ admitted his mistake and apologized.

[Bronco Bob]

Anyone know what ever became of yvonne?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Anyone know what ever became of yvonne?

Given Obama's poll numbers, he's probably in a rubber room somewhere and on suicide watch 24/7. Ha!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Fine, it wasn't you, I was wrong..... Convo over....

Did he mention how he lost his mod status? Ha!