View Full Version : For the tards who keep calling Obama a socialist...
SonOfLe-loLang
10-20-2008, 09:39 PM
Rachel always says it better than I can:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27287619#27287619
TexanBob
10-20-2008, 09:58 PM
Oh, He's not a socialist? Well, let's see...
Proposes large tax increases? Check.
Wants to nationalize health care? Check.
Approved government taking over control of banks? Check.
Talks about "spreading the wealth", code speech for massive redistribution of private assets? Check.
He walks like a socialist duck and quacks like a socialist duck. I'd say he's a socialist duck.
Nobody who owns a business should feel safe having this man at the helm of government. Unless your business lives off the government, that is.
Paladin
10-20-2008, 10:27 PM
Oh, let's see.
1. Wants to bring tax on people over $250,000 to the same level they were under Clinton, and the rate is only on the money above that amount. (reverse Bush's "gift" to the wealthy);
2. Reduce taxes on Middle class Americans who have been taxed to high h3ll and back by Bush to pay for the tax breaks for the wealthy (That's not a socialist concept, chum)
3. Wants a health care plan that provides affordable health care for all Americans. You need to read his plan before you even think about criticising it, which you haven't done.
Spreading the wealth is to allow the Middle Class and the poor to enjoy the fruits of the future growth. This means using the progressive tax system fairly as it was meant to be, allowing the small business and middle class to keep more of the money they've earned and not give it to the wealthy.
McCain walks lie a fascist, talks like a fascist and therefore is a fascist.
Palin talks like a dupe, acts like a dupe and therefore she is a dupe.
There are a number of very successful business men backing Obama. Try Buffet who could probably buy you ninety million times over. He also has Volker as an advisor. People like you who don't know what the h3ll they are talking about deserve sh*theads like McCain and Palin. I don't deserve them just like I did not deserve Bush and Cheaney. The country has lost its soul because of that shi*thead Bush, and I look forward to the Obama Presidency....
Please try and keep up with the truth....
Paladin
10-20-2008, 11:04 PM
Here you go, 'tard. I am making it easy for you to find it.
Barack Obama and Joe Biden's Plan
On health care reform, the American people are too often offered two extremes - government-run health care with higher taxes or letting the insurance companies operate without rules. Barack Obama and Joe Biden believe both of these extremes are wrong, and that’s why they’ve proposed a plan that strengthens employer coverage, makes insurance companies accountable and ensures patient choice of doctor and care without government interference.
The Obama-Biden plan provides affordable, accessible health care for all Americans, builds on the existing health care system, and uses existing providers, doctors and plans to implement the plan. Under the Obama-Biden plan, patients will be able to make health care decisions with their doctors, instead of being blocked by insurance company bureaucrats.
Under the plan, if you like your current health insurance, nothing changes, except your costs will go down by as much as $2,500 per year.
If you don’t have health insurance, you will have a choice of new, affordable health insurance options.
Make Health Insurance Work for People and Businesses - Not Just Insurance and Drug Companies.
Require insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions so all Americans regardless of their health status or history can get comprehensive benefits at fair and stable premiums.
Create a new Small Business Health Tax Credit to help small businesses provide affordable health insurance to their employees.
Lower costs for businesses by covering a portion of the catastrophic health costs they pay in return for lower premiums for employees.
Prevent insurers from overcharging doctors for their malpractice insurance and invest in proven strategies to reduce preventable medical errors.
Make employer contributions more fair by requiring large employers that do not offer coverage or make a meaningful contribution to the cost of quality health coverage for their employees to contribute a percentage of payroll toward the costs of their employees health care.
Establish a National Health Insurance Exchange with a range of private insurance options as well as a new public plan based on benefits available to members of Congress that will allow individuals and small businesses to buy affordable health coverage.
Ensure everyone who needs it will receive a tax credit for their premiums.
Reduce Costs and Save a Typical American Family up to $2,500 as reforms phase in:
Lower drug costs by allowing the importation of safe medicines from other developed countries, increasing the use of generic drugs in public programs and taking on drug companies that block cheaper generic medicines from the market
Require hospitals to collect and report health care cost and quality data
Reduce the costs of catastrophic illnesses for employers and their employees.
Reform the insurance market to increase competition by taking on anticompetitive activity that drives up prices without improving quality of care.
The Obama-Biden plan will promote public health. It will require coverage of preventive services, including cancer screenings, and increase state and local preparedness for terrorist attacks and natural disasters.
A Commitment to Fiscal Responsibility: Barack Obama will pay for his $50 - $65 billion health care reform effort by rolling back the Bush tax cuts for Americans earning more than $250,000 per year and retaining the estate tax at its 2009 level.
Paladin
10-20-2008, 11:22 PM
Here ya go, 'tard. More stuff for you to understand.....
Socialism: Noun: a political and economic theory or system in which the means of production, distribution, and exchange are owned by the community collectively, usually through the state.
<o:p>
Think about this: McCain will socialize the debt from the last 8 years of failed republican policies ("stimulus" packages, squandered corporate welfare, tax breaks for super rich and an unnecessary war). That's socialism at it's worst. He doesn't want social programs that can lessen the tax burden through preventative means and provide necessary benefits to the people, yet he'll require the responsible taxpayers to foot the bill for the financial debacle that came from deregulation. Republicans=Socialization without benefits.
</o:p>
The Problem
Increasing Debt: Under President Bush, the federal debt has increased from $5.7 trillion to $8.8 trillion, an increase of more than 50 percent.
Irresponsible Tax Cuts: President Bush's policies of giving tax breaks for the wealthy will cost the nation over $2.3 trillion by the time they expire in 2009.
Barack Obama and Joe Biden's Plan
Restore Fiscal Discipline to Washington
Reinstate PAYGO Rules: Obama and Biden believe that a critical step in restoring fiscal discipline is enforcing pay-as-you-go (PAYGO) budgeting rules which require new spending commitments or tax changes to be paid for by cuts to other programs or new revenue.
Reverse Bush Tax Cuts for the Wealthy: Obama and Biden will protect tax cuts for poor and middle class families, but they will reverse most of the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest taxpayers.
Cut Pork Barrel Spending: Obama introduced and passed bipartisan legislation that would require more disclosure and transparency for special-interest earmarks. Obama and Biden believe that spending that cannot withstand public scrutiny cannot be justified. Obama and Biden will slash earmarks to no greater than year 1994 levels and ensure all spending decisions are open to the public.
Make Government Spending More Accountable and Efficient: Obama and Biden will ensure that federal contracts over $25,000 are competitively bid. Obama and Biden will also increase the efficiency of government programs through better use of technology, stronger management that demands accountability and by leveraging the government's high-volume purchasing power to get lower prices.
End Wasteful Government Spending: Obama and Biden will stop funding wasteful, obsolete federal government programs that make no financial sense. Obama and Biden have called for an end to subsidies for oil and gas companies that are enjoying record profits, as well as the elimination of subsidies to the private student loan industry which has repeatedly used unethical business practices. Obama and Biden will also tackle wasteful spending in the Medicare program.Make the Tax System More Fair and Efficient
End Tax Haven Abuse: Building on his bipartisan work in the Senate, Obama will give the Treasury Department the tools it needs to stop the abuse of tax shelters and offshore tax havens and help close the $350 billion tax gap between taxes owed and taxes paid.
Close Special Interest Corporate Loopholes: Obama and Biden will level the playing field for all businesses by eliminating special-interest loopholes and deductions, such as those for the oil and gas industry.Yep, Obama for me......
Paladin
10-20-2008, 11:23 PM
Effing stupe.....
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-20-2008, 11:28 PM
Here you go, 'tard. I am making it easy for you to find it.
Barack Obama and Joe Biden's Plan
On health care reform, the American people are too often offered two extremes - government-run health care with higher taxes or letting the insurance companies operate without rules. Barack Obama and Joe Biden believe both of these extremes are wrong, and that’s why they’ve proposed a plan that strengthens employer coverage, makes insurance companies accountable and ensures patient choice of doctor and care without government interference.
The Obama-Biden plan provides affordable, accessible health care for all Americans, builds on the existing health care system, and uses existing providers, doctors and plans to implement the plan. Under the Obama-Biden plan, patients will be able to make health care decisions with their doctors, instead of being blocked by insurance company bureaucrats.
Under the plan, if you like your current health insurance, nothing changes, except your costs will go down by as much as $2,500 per year.
If you don’t have health insurance, you will have a choice of new, affordable health insurance options.
Make Health Insurance Work for People and Businesses - Not Just Insurance and Drug Companies.
Require insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions so all Americans regardless of their health status or history can get comprehensive benefits at fair and stable premiums.
Create a new Small Business Health Tax Credit to help small businesses provide affordable health insurance to their employees.
Lower costs for businesses by covering a portion of the catastrophic health costs they pay in return for lower premiums for employees.
Prevent insurers from overcharging doctors for their malpractice insurance and invest in proven strategies to reduce preventable medical errors.
Make employer contributions more fair by requiring large employers that do not offer coverage or make a meaningful contribution to the cost of quality health coverage for their employees to contribute a percentage of payroll toward the costs of their employees health care.
Establish a National Health Insurance Exchange with a range of private insurance options as well as a new public plan based on benefits available to members of Congress that will allow individuals and small businesses to buy affordable health coverage.
Ensure everyone who needs it will receive a tax credit for their premiums.
Reduce Costs and Save a Typical American Family up to $2,500 as reforms phase in:
Lower drug costs by allowing the importation of safe medicines from other developed countries, increasing the use of generic drugs in public programs and taking on drug companies that block cheaper generic medicines from the market
Require hospitals to collect and report health care cost and quality data
Reduce the costs of catastrophic illnesses for employers and their employees.
Reform the insurance market to increase competition by taking on anticompetitive activity that drives up prices without improving quality of care.
The Obama-Biden plan will promote public health. It will require coverage of preventive services, including cancer screenings, and increase state and local preparedness for terrorist attacks and natural disasters.
A Commitment to Fiscal Responsibility: Barack Obama will pay for his $50 - $65 billion health care reform effort by rolling back the Bush tax cuts for Americans earning more than $250,000 per year and retaining the estate tax at its 2009 level.
That's probably too much information for Texan Boob to process - he has yet to show that he even understands such basics as the difference between liberalism and socialism.
People like Texan Boob should be required to pass a basic civics test and/or take a lower division political science course before they're allowed to vote - otherwise there will just be more Kennebunkport Cowboys and Hockey Moms driving America into the ditch (and we all pay the price.)
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-20-2008, 11:41 PM
Nobody who owns a business like Enron, ExxonMobil, or Halliburton should feel safe having this man at the helm of government.
Fixed. :wave:
Paladin
10-20-2008, 11:48 PM
I doubt he will come back here because he will ghost read the thread and split, not understanding anything at all. Next, he will turn on his radio to Rush and lay there sucking his thumb and whimpering....
Or is that too complicated for him?
Obama isn't a socialist.
But far far too statist for my tastes. As is McCain.
TailgateNut
10-21-2008, 06:46 AM
I doubt he will come back here because he will ghost read the thread and split, not understanding anything at all. Next, he will turn on his radio to Rush and lay there sucking his thumb and whimpering....
Or is that too complicated for him?
...and way to complicated for the two GOP candidates to understand.
barryr
10-21-2008, 07:13 AM
Um yeah. The tards are the ones that believe Obama isn't planning to tax us all. You over tax the wealthy and people think it doesn't ultimately come back to the rest of us. A dream land. Not to mention there are plenty of doctors who are quitting private practice with the chances good of socialized medicine on the way. In fact, I know of a handful who plan to get out of medicine and into financial consulting. If someone would go with the fair tax system, things would be so much better for everyone. With Obama and his plans, everyone(who pays taxes at least)will need to hire someone to do their taxes for them since if you think the system is complicated now, just wait.
TailgateNut
10-21-2008, 07:30 AM
Um yeah. The tards are the ones that believe Obama isn't planning to tax us all. You over tax the wealthy and people think it doesn't ultimately come back to the rest of us. A dream land. Not to mention there are plenty of doctors who are quitting private practice with the chances good of socialized medicine on the way. In fact, I know of a handful who plan to get out of medicine and into financial consulting. If someone would go with the fair tax system, things would be so much better for everyone. With Obama and his plans, everyone(who pays taxes at least)will need to hire someone to do their taxes for them since if you think the system is complicated now, just wait.
You avy should read: "New to the planet".
Just another red box of rocks.
SonOfLe-loLang
10-21-2008, 08:36 AM
Socialist is just another code word for "black" in this case. Any divisive word the GOP can think of will be used in the next 3 weeks.
Rohirrim
10-21-2008, 08:42 AM
Um yeah. The tards are the ones that believe Obama isn't planning to tax us all. You over tax the wealthy and people think it doesn't ultimately come back to the rest of us. A dream land. Not to mention there are plenty of doctors who are quitting private practice with the chances good of socialized medicine on the way. In fact, I know of a handful who plan to get out of medicine and into financial consulting. If someone would go with the fair tax system, things would be so much better for everyone. With Obama and his plans, everyone(who pays taxes at least)will need to hire someone to do their taxes for them since if you think the system is complicated now, just wait.
The idea that everybody might some day have health care is terrifying. I'm building a bunker. The day they announce GD socialist universal health care, that's it. It's into the bunker for me.
SonOfLe-loLang
10-21-2008, 08:46 AM
Oh, He's not a socialist? Well, let's see...
Approved government taking over control of banks? Check.
.
No such thing as a athiest in a foxhole or a libertarian in a financial crisis. The government HAS to take over the banks or the banks won't lend to each other. I love when we fall back on socialism in times of need (stimulus packages, bailouts) to save us, but everyone simply calls it evil because its a buzz word from the cold war.
SonOfLe-loLang
10-21-2008, 08:46 AM
The idea that everybody might some day have health care is terrifying. I'm building a bunker. The day they announce GD socialist universal health care, that's it. It's into the bunker for me.
I know! The idea of a community is terrifying...god forbid
Needa Pass Rush
10-21-2008, 08:49 AM
Barney always says it better then I can.... and with a cute little lisSsSsSsp.
"Lots of rich people out there we can saddle with trickle up poverty" Nice, Barney. Kill the goose that laid the golden egg.
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noneubizwax
10-21-2008, 08:50 AM
Personally I think some of you could use to spend a few more Sundays in church and less time drinking wine and watching football. I will be adding some of you to my prayer list this weekend
Rohirrim
10-21-2008, 09:08 AM
Personally I think some of you could use to spend a few more Sundays in church and less time drinking wine and watching football. I will be adding some of you to my prayer list this weekend
I worship Vlad the Impaler.
noneubizwax
10-21-2008, 09:21 AM
I worship Vlad the Impaler.
I am unfamilur with this Vlad but I think you would be wise to rethink your affliations
Paladin
10-21-2008, 09:25 AM
I worship Vlad the Impaler.
Not me. It's Thor for me. Although I thoiugh Zeus had a good showing for a while.....
No such thing as a athiest in a foxhole or a libertarian in a financial crisis.
Think again. This libertarian is 100% opposed to the various bailouts/stimuli/pork-laden crap that's been done/proposed.
The government HAS to take over the banks or the banks won't lend to each other. I love when we fall back on socialism in times of need (stimulus packages, bailouts) to save us, but everyone simply calls it evil because its a buzz word from the cold war.
It was government manipulation of the markets that got us into this mess; it won't get us out, either.
SonOfLe-loLang
10-21-2008, 09:35 AM
Think again. This libertarian is 100% opposed to the various bailouts/stimuli/pork-laden crap that's been done/proposed.
It was government manipulation of the markets that got us into this mess; it won't get us out, either.
It will and has proven in the past that it will. Will it **** up again? Sure. HUmans are imperfect and greedy. but this nationalization is NECESSARY. Markets only correct themselves when it hits extremes. We cant afford an extreme
SonOfLe-loLang
10-21-2008, 09:36 AM
Not me. It's Thor for me. Although I thoiugh Zeus had a good showing for a while.....
Whats that indian god thats like an elephant...maybe ill give that one a shot
Rohirrim
10-21-2008, 09:36 AM
I am unfamilur with this Vlad but I think you would be wise to rethink your affliations
Are you kidding? Why? We are winning. Don't you see it? We have sent our baby killing terrorist socialist Obama to gain control for us, but he will be only a figurehead. We will be the power behind the throne. It is the time of the anti-Christ. Obama is the new power in the universe! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
noneubizwax
10-21-2008, 09:40 AM
Are you kidding? Why? We are winning. Don't you see it? We have sent our baby killing terrorist socialist Obama to gain control for us, but he will be only a figurehead. We will be the power behind the throne. It is the time of the anti-Christ. Obama is the new power in the universe! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
:nono: wow you are one crazy cat. Have you even studied the end times? You will be amazed if you would just take the time to learn.
It will and has proven in the past that it will. Will it **** up again? Sure. HUmans are imperfect and greedy. but this nationalization is NECESSARY. Markets only correct themselves when it hits extremes. We cant afford an extreme
Yes, we can. The price tag will be steep, but a pittance compared to these endless rounds of "saving" the economy with tax dollars.
Paladin
10-21-2008, 09:44 AM
Which end times are those? I want to have a good idea when "Last Call" is going to be shouted so I can get a last beer. The best thing about that is all those idiotic, stupid rednecks and hillbillies and nutjobs like you will be wiped out. That will make eternity a better place, IMHO.
YEEHAWWWWW, GO Vlad and Thor. On Dancer, on Prancer, on Donner and Blitzen!!!!! And all you b*thces up to Vixen!!!!
noneubizwax
10-21-2008, 09:46 AM
Which end times are those? I want to have a good idea when "Last Call" is going to be shouted so I can get a last beer. The best thing about that is all those idiotic, stupid rednecks and hillbillies and nutjobs like you will be wiped out. That will make eternity a better place, IMHO.
YEEHAWWWWW, GO Vlad and Thor. On Dancer, on Prancer, on Donner and Blitzen!!!!! And all you b*thces up to Vixen!!!!
Nobody knows the hour or the date. It will happen in the twinkling of an eye. Sorry not "last call" for you sir
TailgateNut
10-21-2008, 09:46 AM
:nono: wow you are one crazy cat. Have you even studied the end times? You will be amazed if you would just take the time to learn.
How does one "study" the future? Or are you talkling about that strange book someone leaves behind in all of the hotel rooms?
Rohirrim
10-21-2008, 09:51 AM
:nono: wow you are one crazy cat. Have you even studied the end times? You will be amazed if you would just take the time to learn.
Through the internets I am sending tendrils of evil to find you.
noneubizwax
10-21-2008, 09:53 AM
Through the internets I am sending tendrils of evil to find you.
I dont know who the tendrils are but I am protected from evil
Paladin
10-21-2008, 09:57 AM
What, you wearing your tin foil hat?
noneubizwax
10-21-2008, 10:00 AM
What, you wearing your tin foil hat?
Things of this earth I do not need for protection.
Rohirrim
10-21-2008, 10:04 AM
Things of this earth I do not need for protection.
Yoda? Is that you?
noneubizwax
10-21-2008, 10:05 AM
Yoda? Is that you?
Who is Yoda?
Paladin
10-21-2008, 10:08 AM
Nah. Youda would know his own name....
SonOfLe-loLang
10-21-2008, 10:46 AM
Good article:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/kamiya/2008/10/21/taxes/ (http://www.salon.com/opinion/kamiya/2008/10/21/taxes/)
Obama a socialist...christ i wish
Rigs11
10-21-2008, 10:58 AM
the bailout package is socialism,the proposed taking over of banks is soclialism. I don't hear any rightards claiming that Mccane is a socilaist, he supports this just as obama does.why is it ok for the government to bailout the economy but as soon as obama wants to help out the hurting middle class, they go apeshet?
the bailout package is socialism,the proposed taking over of banks is soclialism.
That's why I oppose them.
Rohirrim
10-21-2008, 11:01 AM
I just hope McCain doesn't discover Obama is the Anti-Christ.
Garcia Bronco
10-21-2008, 11:20 AM
Oh, let's see.
1. Wants to bring tax on people over $250,000 to the same level they were under Clinton, and the rate is only on the money above that amount. (reverse Bush's "gift" to the wealthy);
2. Reduce taxes on Middle class Americans who have been taxed to high h3ll and back by Bush to pay for the tax breaks for the wealthy (That's not a socialist concept, chum)
3. Wants a health care plan that provides affordable health care for all Americans. You need to read his plan before you even think about criticising it, which you haven't done.
Spreading the wealth is to allow the Middle Class and the poor to enjoy the fruits of the future growth. This means using the progressive tax system fairly as it was meant to be, allowing the small business and middle class to keep more of the money they've earned and not give it to the wealthy.
2 George Bush is the only President to deliver on a middle class tax cut in 20 years
3 You mean his plan that changes once a month? Is a tax on the populace with the ultimate goal being socialized medicine.
Garcia Bronco
10-21-2008, 11:21 AM
Socialist is just another code word for "black" in this case. Any divisive word the GOP can think of will be used in the next 3 weeks.
It is not. Quit being a race baiter.
Garcia Bronco
10-21-2008, 11:23 AM
the bailout package is socialism,the proposed taking over of banks is soclialism. I don't hear any rightards claiming that Mccane is a socilaist, he supports this just as obama does.why is it ok for the government to bailout the economy but as soon as obama wants to help out the hurting middle class, they go apeshet?
I don't know wmany that did support the "bailout" and you are correct, both these dumbasses supported it.
SJ Bronco
10-21-2008, 11:35 AM
Damn, I missed the Sarcasm bashing of the Bible thumper...that's my all time favorite pastime!
SJ Bronco
10-21-2008, 11:38 AM
I don't know wmany that did support the "bailout" and you are correct, both these dumbasses supported it.
Same reason a lot of people voted for the war that regret it now. Over reaction and pressure from the public to do something. I wish they would have taken more time to think about it. As time goes on, this will be another thing that politicians will be answering for in debates in four years, but I think it's monday morning QB shyt.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-21-2008, 07:11 PM
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Rigs11
10-21-2008, 07:13 PM
I don't know wmany that did support the "bailout" and you are correct, both these dumbasses supported it.
8 in 10 americans supported it.
Rigs11
10-21-2008, 07:14 PM
2 George Bush is the only President to deliver on a middle class tax cut in 20 years
3 You mean his plan that changes once a month? Is a tax on the populace with the ultimate goal being socialized medicine.
bush is the only president to start a war and then cut taxes.
SonOfLe-loLang
10-21-2008, 08:46 PM
It is not. Quit being a race baiter.
The entire conservative movement was built on race baiting...youre being foolish if you think they arent now.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-21-2008, 09:01 PM
The entire conservative movement was built on race baiting...youre being foolish if you think they arent now.
Yep.
Apparently Garcia has never heard of Nixon's "southern strategy."
Needa Pass Rush
10-21-2008, 09:38 PM
Obama is more Marxist the Socialist.
The end of the middle class is near. Can you say mo' po'? Just say no to trickle up poverty.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-21-2008, 10:50 PM
The end of the middle class is near. Can you say mo' po'? Just say no to trickle up poverty.
:rofl:
This from a guy who has been supporting policies that have steadily hollowed out the middle class for the last eight years?
That's rich.
TailgateNut
10-22-2008, 07:10 AM
bush is the only president to start a war and then cut taxes.
Make less-Spend more! Makes sense to your avg. teenager!;D
Garcia Bronco
10-22-2008, 07:24 AM
8 in 10 americans supported it.
Like I said. I haven't met one person that did.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-22-2008, 07:25 AM
Make less-Spend more! Makes sense to your avg. teenager!;D
Teenagers who rail against "tax and spend Democrats" while tenaciously defending a party and president who leave them (and their children and grandchildren) in hock to China and Saudi Arabia to the tune of trillions.
Garcia Bronco
10-22-2008, 07:27 AM
The entire conservative movement was built on race baiting...youre being foolish if you think they arent now.
The Republicans are the ones that allowed Black Amercians to vote in the first place. I am not a Republican, but it's the truth. Further more, putting that stereo type on conservatives is no different that saying someone else is inferior because of their color of skin. It's not apples to apples, but it's derived from the same narrow minded BS.
Garcia Bronco
10-22-2008, 07:29 AM
Yep.
Apparently Garcia has never heard of Nixon's "southern strategy."
And you've never heard of radical reconstruction.
Garcia Bronco
10-22-2008, 07:31 AM
bush is the only president to start a war and then cut taxes.
He cut taxes and then we were attacked.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-22-2008, 07:38 AM
And you've never heard of radical reconstruction.
What does that have to do with the "southern strategy?"
(And yes - I realize your history of the Democratic Party ends with the civil rights movement.)
Garcia Bronco
10-22-2008, 07:39 AM
What does that have to do with the "southern strategy?"
(And yes - I realize your history of the Democratic Party ends with the civil rights movement.)
You have to look at the whole picture.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-22-2008, 07:41 AM
You have to look at the whole picture.
That doesn't answer my question.
Garcia Bronco
10-22-2008, 07:43 AM
That doesn't answer my question.
And your question will continue to go unanswered.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-22-2008, 07:46 AM
And your question will continue to go unanswered.
Well, at least you're willing to admit you have no answer.
Garcia Bronco
10-22-2008, 07:55 AM
Well, at least you're willing to admit you have no answer.
It's not that. What Nixon did has nothing to do with the vast amount of people and their beliefs over time. While we may have coomon beliefs each persons beliefs in total are different. Which is why utopia for all doesn't exist.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-22-2008, 07:58 AM
It's not that. What Nixon did has nothing to do with the vast amount of people and their beliefs over time. While we may have coomon beliefs each persons beliefs in total are different. Which is why utopia for all doesn't exist.
That's a pretty good impression of Sarah Palin doing her Couric interview.
:rofl:
Paladin
10-22-2008, 10:43 AM
If you get the right rhythm, the right crescendo and the right shills in the crowd, you cold be a politician, GB. You put out the same amount of stuff with the "Huh?" factor that people will listen for a couple of minutes to see if you burst into flames or not.....
TailgateNut
10-22-2008, 10:48 AM
If you get the right rhythm, the right crescendo and the right shills in the crowd, you cold be a politician, GB. You put out the same amount of stuff with the "Huh?" factor that people will listen for a couple of minutes to see if you burst into flames or not.....
The "HUH" factor:spit:
Garcia Bronco
10-22-2008, 10:53 AM
That's a pretty good impression of Sarah Palin doing her Couric interview.
:rofl:
I don't know about that, but what I said is the truth. It's not Nixon's fulat that he reacted to the politcal climate of the time. I mean the man was trying to get elected.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-22-2008, 10:59 AM
I don't know about that, but what I said is the truth. It's not Nixon's fulat that he reacted to the politcal climate of the time. I mean the man was trying to get elected.
Well, at least now you're showing your true moral and ethical colors. :D