View Full Version : Boss Bailey huge bust!!!
brncobrett
10-20-2008, 07:42 PM
This guy is a joke for a football player..Cream puff, always hurt. The people who said he's always is hurt were 100% right..
Popps
10-20-2008, 07:44 PM
Well, I said the rep on him coming in was that he was a great athlete... but couldn't tackle his own grandmother. Oh, and that he couldn't stay healthy.
Voila!
Crashman44b
10-20-2008, 07:48 PM
What about our safeties? They cant do anything right. Boss sucks, but the safeties are 3 times as bad.
Dagmar
10-20-2008, 07:50 PM
How many new threads do we need?!?!
orinjkrush
10-20-2008, 07:56 PM
the chokeland strategy of retreads is a very risky strategy.
just say no to "names"
I actually thought Boss has been pretty good over the past three weeks. I hate that he stays down injured all the time. You only get away with that if you are Ed McCaffrey.
Popps
10-20-2008, 08:02 PM
He's been very average, imo... that's when he's healthy.
Again, our top free agent targets were Niko K., Boss Bailey and McCree.
Think about what players were available... and then look at that list again.
Hercules Rockefeller
10-20-2008, 08:08 PM
Webster is worse, guy misses more tackles than he makes
Breaker
10-20-2008, 08:30 PM
I disagree Bailey is a solid outside whose limitions are apparent with a weak MLB. Once we get a real MLB out LB corp will be much much improved including Bailey.
Popps
10-20-2008, 08:34 PM
Webster is worse, guy misses more tackles than he makes
There's no way I can watch this game again, but I've thought Webster has been adequate. Not great, but adequate.
Maybe I'm missing something.
Rock Chalk
10-20-2008, 08:35 PM
He's been very average, imo... that's when he's healthy.
Again, our top free agent targets were Niko K., Boss Bailey and McCree.
Think about what players were available... and then look at that list again.
Robertson...he was actually a good pickup but it doesnt appear so because the three schmucks behind him suck ass.
maher_tyler
10-20-2008, 08:36 PM
This guy is a joke for a football player..Cream puff, always hurt. The people who said he's always is hurt were 100% right..
I didn't realize it was going to be that bad..my god the guy is hurt on almost every ****ing play!!
Blart
10-20-2008, 08:36 PM
We have bigger issues than LB right now. Safety anyone?
BroncoMan4ever
10-20-2008, 08:38 PM
I actually thought Boss has been pretty good over the past three weeks. I hate that he stays down injured all the time. You only get away with that if you are Ed McCaffrey.
Until Eddie snapped his leg in 2001 he was an iron man for us. He got drilled every play but got back up almost every time. I can't remember many games before his leg broke where he was out due to injury.
No comparison. Eddie was a tough bastard. Boss is a bitch
BroncoBen
10-20-2008, 08:38 PM
The Broncos need to draft heavy on the defensive side of the ball this upcoming draft.
BroncoMan4ever
10-20-2008, 08:41 PM
We have bigger issues than LB right now. Safety anyone?
Safety, depth behind Champ, depth at DT, pass rush(i won't count tonite the Pats are the most sacked team in the league) RB, and MLB is what we need bad.
As of right now i would rank it
Safety
MLB
CB
RB
DT
brncobrett
10-20-2008, 08:42 PM
Until Eddie snapped his leg in 2001 he was an iron man for us. He got drilled every play but got back up almost every time. I can't remember many games before his leg broke where he was out due to injury.
No comparison. Eddie was a tough bastard. Boss is a b****
I can't agree with you more..
Hercules Rockefeller
10-20-2008, 08:48 PM
Robertson...he was actually a good pickup but it doesnt appear so because the three schmucks behind him suck ass.
Yep, there was a play he was 4 yards in the backfield and turned the guy back in, still went for about 10 because no one else did their job. Thomas is fine for a 2nd year guy too
Hercules Rockefeller
10-20-2008, 08:51 PM
There's no way I can watch this game again, but I've thought Webster has been adequate. Not great, but adequate.
Maybe I'm missing something.
Whiffs a lot and is out of position often, but he celebrates if he doesn't **** up.
The MVPlaya
10-20-2008, 08:54 PM
Boss Bailey actually tackles pretty well...
BroncoMan4ever
10-20-2008, 09:03 PM
Yep, there was a play he was 4 yards in the backfield and turned the guy back in, still went for about 10 because Boone else did their job. Thomas is fine for a 2nd year guy too
outside of Robertson and Thomas at DT nobody brings anything on a consistant basis. Peterson shows up occasionally. Doom is always fighting off double teams, Engleberger wouldn't see the field if he played for any other team in the league, Ekuban isn't what he used to be, Moss and Crowder are garbage as of now.
We need to bring in defensive players and a lot of them in the draft and FA, next season
DivineBronco
10-20-2008, 10:19 PM
the biggest reason we brought Boss in was to make Champ happy and hopefully help with the next contract negotiations I think they knew what they were getting as far as a player goes
Popps
10-20-2008, 10:24 PM
Robertson...he was actually a good pickup but it doesnt appear so because the three schmucks behind him suck ass.
I like Robertson. Well worth the pick, though he was a trade. For whatever reason, we seem to do a little better in trades than just signing guys.
That said, I'm not positive I'd call him an impact player... but certainly a big improvement over what we had.
Florida_Bronco
10-20-2008, 10:45 PM
Another poorly thought out thread.
Joke of a football player? He's made 31 solo tackles despite playing through a lingering ankle injury from the preseason?
Cream Puff? He came back from his injury earlier than expected and played well. He's taken several good shots and had his leg bent in awkward ways yet usually comes back within a play or two.
This may serve as a newsflash to some of you, but toughness and suffering injuries are not related. I'd argue that Boss has shown great heart and toughness this year with his injury.
The guy is, by no means, a great player...but he's solid and generally reliable. To call him a joke of a football player is beyond ignorant IMO.
Popps
10-20-2008, 11:04 PM
Florida,
I don't think he's a joke, but to call him soft is fair. He's not a hard hitter, he's a marginal tackler, especially for a pretty big guy, and he's constantly battling some kind of owie.
We needed a major upgrade and got a marginal player that can't stay on the field. You can't expect people to be happy about that.
Broncos fans continue to get ****ed with ****ty free agent signings every year.
~Crash~
10-20-2008, 11:07 PM
who is at the bottom of the pile opps boss bailey
Florida_Bronco
10-20-2008, 11:09 PM
Florida,
I don't think he's a joke, but to call him soft is fair. He's not a hard hitter, he's a marginal tackler, especially for a pretty big guy, and he's constantly battling some kind of owie.
We needed a major upgrade and got a marginal player that can't stay on the field. You can't expect people to be happy about that.
Broncos fans continue to get ****ed with ****ty free agent signings every year.
And again Popps, being injured has nothing to do with toughness. IIRC it was the Saints game where Bailey got his leg twisted in a very awkward way but came back a few plays later.
"Soft" players don't do that.
And how much time has he missed? The first game and tonight are the only times I recall him being off the field for extended times. His tackling is certainly better than "marginal" in my opinion also.
~Crash~
10-20-2008, 11:09 PM
Come on people Our DC is a rocket sientist ...lets get the PE man in for a iterview ...Marty Schottenheimer
Popps
10-20-2008, 11:15 PM
And again Popps, being injured has nothing to do with toughness. IIRC it was the Saints game where Bailey got his leg twisted in a very awkward way but came back a few plays later.
"Soft" players don't do that.
And how much time has he missed? The first game and tonight are the only times I recall him being off the field for extended times. His tackling is certainly better than "marginal" in my opinion also.
This goes back to his Detroit days, though he's clearly already been fighting injuries since he's been here. He also missed a ton of crucial pre-season time where he could have been out there getting familiar with the defense.
We're probably better with him in the lineup than without, but he's just whatever. He never made an impression in Detroit and will turn 30 next season. He's just whatever.
azbroncfan
10-21-2008, 12:24 AM
Not much of a surprise. He has been injury prone his whole career.
kappys
10-21-2008, 04:34 AM
I'm not sure what you are expecting Popps.
He's getting paid like an average SLB out there - he's not making the big bucks. IMO that's pretty much how he's played - solid but not spectacular.
brncobrett
10-21-2008, 08:30 AM
And again Popps, being injured has nothing to do with toughness. IIRC it was the Saints game where Bailey got his leg twisted in a very awkward way but came back a few plays later.
"Soft" players don't do that.
And how much time has he missed? The first game and tonight are the only times I recall him being off the field for extended times. His tackling is certainly better than "marginal" in my opinion also.
Are you kidding me he missed all of training camp this year..As a new FA with a new team you need training to create chemistry with the others around you. This is exactly what you need from a LBing corp. The past speaks for itself with him in Detroit. Ignorant? huh..Seems like I'm in the majority..If you can't stay healthy as a LB in this league you just won't make it.
I will give you this, he has made some marginal plays, nothing that Winborn hasn't done already. In fact I've seen Winborn make more substantial plays by far then Bailey. If we are bringing FA's in to make others on this team
happy ie: Champ then there in lie's the problem.
Kaylore
10-21-2008, 08:37 AM
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/image.php?u=9560&dateline=1220018788
Look at how Seth Mcfarlane made him look like Quasimodo with that lazy eye. all his figurines suck.
Schism
10-21-2008, 09:24 AM
SLB doesn't require a wonderful player by any means, I'd say that Boss is more than adequate at that position.
Or would be if he wasn't made of biscuits, anyway.
Popps, while i agree that we've seen Webster make some plays do you really see any future for us with him at MLB? Sure his tackle count is high but that's not the be all end all for a MLB by any means. A result of our D being on the field for so long as much as anything.
To me he plays with such a lack of football intelligence, he's like a headless chicken out there. One play last night was indicative of it. Morris ran to the left, Pats opened up a hole for him which Webster was in great position to fill and make the tackle. But he came crashing through the gap much too soon and Morris just let him run by before speeding up and taking it downfield for a big gain.
A good MLB would have been stopping the run for 2 or 3 yards, not plowing through trying to make an impossible stop at the LOS like Nate did.
A MIKE needs to be the brains of the team, someone who can sniff out what's happening and adjust to it. Nate Webster to me seems anything but, just a guy who goes tearing hell for leather at the ball every single play.
If there's a good one on the board when we select in Round 1 of next years draft, I have a very hard time justifying passing him up.
jonny1
10-21-2008, 09:36 AM
He's been very average, imo... that's when he's healthy.
Again, our top free agent targets were Niko K., Boss Bailey and McCree.
Think about what players were available... and then look at that list again.
Okay, I'll bite.
Who else was available, at a reasonable price, that they could have signed? :peace:
briane
10-21-2008, 09:39 AM
I think Boss is actually one of our best tacklers. as bad as that may sound.
Its just that him getting hurt in each game has as good of odds as websters helmet flying off. guarenteed!
Dendave
10-21-2008, 09:44 AM
This guy is a joke for a football player..Cream puff, always hurt. The people who said he's always is hurt were 100% right..
Pat self on back :hitself:
brncobrett
10-21-2008, 10:08 AM
Pat self on back :hitself:
LOL
Popps
10-21-2008, 10:12 AM
Okay, I'll bite.
Who else was available, at a reasonable price, that they could have signed? :peace:
Well, mostly defensive linemen... but Spikes was available if we wanted help at LB. Were probably others, too... but we signed Bailey.
Bailey isn't the root of our woes. He's just another free agent signing that's not looking real hot right now.
ANIMAL24
10-21-2008, 10:20 AM
Nothing new.