McCain and Palin In Their Own Words: 25 Laughable Quotes

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

1. "Our economy, I think, is still ― the fundamentals of our economy are strong." ―John McCain, Jacksonville, Fla., Sept. 15, 2008 (Source (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/15/mccain-fundamentals-of-th_n_126445.html))

2. "The issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I should. I've got Greenspan's book." ―McCain, as quoted in the Boston Globe, Dec. 17, 2007 (Source (http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2007/12/mccain_its_abou.html))

3. "As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where ― where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border." ―Sarah Palin, explaining why Alaska's proximity to Russia gives her foreign policy experience, interview with CBS News's Katie Couric, Sept. 24, 2008 (Source (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/25/palin-talks-russia-with-k_n_129318.html))

4. "[Sarah Palin] knows more about energy than probably anyone else in the United States of America. ... And, uh, she also happens to represent, be governor of a state that's right next to Russia." ―McCain on Palin's foreign policy experience, interview with WCSH-6, Portland, OR, Sept. 12, 2008 (Source (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFWnxFiFNh4))

5. "They are also building schools for the Afghan children so that there is hope and opportunity in our neighboring country of Afghanistan." ―Palin, speaking at a fundraiser in San Francisco, Oct. 5, 2008 (Source (http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/2008/10/05/in-slip-up-palin-calls-afghanistan-our-neighboring-country/))

6. "Well, let's see. There's ― of course in the great history of America there have been rulings that there's never going to be absolute consensus by every American, and there are those issues, again, like Roe v. Wade, where I believe are best held on a state level and addressed there. So, you know, going through the history of America, there would be others but ―" ―Palin, unable to name a Supreme Court decision she disagreed with other than Roe vs. Wade, interview with Katie Couric, CBS News, Oct. 1, 2008 (Source (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRuBdW0yBUY))

7. "I think ― I'll have my staff get to you. It's condominiums where ― I'll have them get to you." ―McCain, after being asked how many houses he and his wife, Cindy, own, interview with Politico, Las Cruces, N.M., Aug. 20, 2008 (Source (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12685.html); take a Google Earth tour (http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/johnmccainvideos/youtube/mccain-tour.htm) of the McCain residences)


8. "I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you." ―Palin, asked by Katie Couric to cite specific examples of how John McCain has pushed for more regulation in his 26 years in the Senate, CBS interview, Sept. 24, 2008 (Source (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/24/eveningnews/main4476173.shtml))

9. "All of 'em, any of 'em that have been in front of me over all these years." ―Palin, unable to name a single newspaper or magazine she reads, interview with Katie Couric, CBS News, Sept. 30, 2008 (Source (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/30/sarah-palin-answers-what_n_130706.html))

10. "I think if you're just talking about income, how about $5 million?" ―McCain, after being asked by Rev. Rick Warren to define "rich," Lake Forest, California, Aug. 16, 2008 (Source (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/washingtondc/la-na-rich18-2008aug18,0,1063695.story))

11. "Maybe a hundred...That would be fine with me." ―McCain, to a questioner who asked if he supported President Bush's vision for keeping U.S. troops in Iraq for 50 years, Derry, New Hampshire, Jan. 3, 2008 (Source (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFknKVjuyNk))

12. "Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending soldiers out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan." ―Pailn, on the Iraq war, speaking to students at the Wasilla Assembly of God, June 2008 (Source (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H-btXPfhGs))

13. "You know that old Beach Boys song, Bomb Iran? Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran." ―McCain, breaking into song after being asked at a VFW meeting about whether it was time to send a message to Iran, Murrells Inlet, South Carolina, April 18, 2007 (Source (http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/johnmccain/youtube/mccain-bombiran.htm))


14. "There was an energy bill on the floor of the Senate loaded down with goodies, billions for the oil companies, and it was sponsored by Bush and Cheney. You know who voted for it? You might never know. That one." ―McCain, pointing to Barack Obama during the second presidential debate, Nashville, Tennessee, Oct. 7, 2008 (Source (http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/johnmccainvideos/youtube/mccain-that-one.htm))


15. "I told the Congress, 'Thanks, but no thanks,' on that Bridge to Nowhere." ―Palin, who was for the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it, multiple speeches (Source (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/31/palin-flip-flopped-on-inf_n_122843.html))

16. "I was looking at the Sturgis schedule, and noticed that you had a beauty pageant, so I encouraged Cindy to compete. I told her [that] with a little luck, she could be the only woman to serve as both the First Lady and Miss Buffalo Chip." ―McCain, on the annual Miss Buffalo Chip Pageant, which features topless (and occasionally bottomless) contestants, Sturgis, South Dakota, Aug. 4, 2008 (Source (http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/johnmccainvideos/youtube/mccain-topless.htm))


17. "I'm the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can't.'" ―Palin, as quoted by former City Council Member Nick Carney, after he raised objections about the $50,000 she spent renovating the mayor's office without approval of the city council (Source (http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/17/palin_mayor/))

18. "I'm very, very pleased to be cleared of any legal wrongdoing ... any hint of any kind of unethical activity there. Very pleased to be cleared of any of that." ―Palin, after an Alaska legislative report found she had broken the state's ethics law and abused her power in the Troopergate scandal, conference call with Alaska reporters, Oct. 12, 2008 (Source (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/12/politics/main4516113.shtml))

19. "She's a partner and a soul-mate." ―McCain on Palin, whom he had met only once before selecting her to be his running mate, "FOX News Sunday" interview, Aug. 31, 2008 (Source (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/31/mccain-palin-is-a-soulmat_n_122849.html))

20. "At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you c*nt." ―McCain, to his wife, Cindy, after she playfully twirled his hair and said "You're getting a little thin up there," as reported in the book The Real McCain by Cliff Schecter (Source (http://rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_temper_boiled_over_in_92_0407.html))

21. "That's exactly what we're going to do in a Palin and McCain administration." ―Palin, elevating herself to the top of the ticket, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Sept. 18, 2008 (Source (http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/sarahpalinvideos/youtube/palin-mccain.htm))

22. "We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty and sincerity and dignity." ―Palin, in her speech at the Republican Convention, quoting the fascist right-wing columnist Westbrook Pegler, an avowed racist and anti-Semite who once lamented that Franklin Roosevelt's would-be assassin hit the wrong man and also expressed his hope that Robert F. Kennedy (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr/governor-palins-reading-l_b_126478.html) would be gunned down (Source (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/10/palin-quoted-anti-semite_n_125429.html))

23. "Honestly, I have to analyze our relationships, situations and priorities, but I can assure you that I will establish closer relationships with our friends, and I will stand up to those who want to harm the United States. ... I have a clear record of working with leaders in the hemisphere that are friends with us and standing up to those who are not. And that's judged on the basis of the importance of our relationship with Latin America and the entire region." ―McCain, after being asked if he would invite Spanish President Jose Rodriguez Louis Zapatero to the White House, casting an ally of the U.S. as a potential enemy while simultaneously confusing Spain for a Latin American country, interview with Radio Caracol Miami, Sept. 17, 2008 (Source (http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1842156,00.htm))

24. "As for that VP talk all the time, I'll tell you, I still can't answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day?" ―Palin, interview with CNBC's "Kudlow & Co", July 2008 (Source (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/29/sarah-palin-what-exactly_n_122514.html))

25. "Across this country this is the agenda I have set before my fellow prisoners. And the same standards of clarity and candor must now be applied to my opponent." ―McCain, Bethlehem, Penn., Oct. 8, 2008 (Source (http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/johnmccainvideos/youtube/mccain-prisoner.htm))

[cutthemdown]

McCain and Palin have made for a lot of humor this election.

But cmon Obama has some good ones to. My favorite is when he said My Muslim Faith!!!!!

That one is particularly funny because him being a Muslim is something he's tried so hard to distance himself from. He shouts he's a Christian over and over but then slips and say's, My Muslim Faith.

Actually Obama is too smart to slip up like that.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

McCain and Palin have made for a lot of humor this election.

But cmon Obama has some good ones to. My favorite is when he said My Muslim Faith!!!!!

That one is particularly funny because him being a Muslim is something he's tried so hard to distance himself from. He shouts he's a Christian over and over but then slips and say's, My Muslim Faith.

Actually Obama is too smart to slip up like that.

Not surprisingly, you have no clue re: the context of the above quote.

Obama was referring to someone else's distortion about his alleged "Muslim faith."

[cutthemdown]

How about this one did you find it funny LABF.

I've now been in 57 states -- I think one left to go." --at a campaign event in Beaverton, Oregon

[cutthemdown]

Or this one:

In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died -- an entire town destroyed." --on a Kansas tornado that killed 12 people

[cutthemdown]

My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it.'- Barack Obama

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

How about this one did you find it funny LABF.

I've now been in 57 states -- I think one left to go." --at a campaign event in Beaverton, Oregon

That one has been debunked too.

At the rate you're going, we're going to need a thread called "McCain and Palin Supporters In Their Own Words: 25 Laughable Quotes."

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it.'- Barack Obama

And you consider this quote "laughable" because....?

[cutthemdown]

That one has been debunked too.

At the rate you're going, we're going to need a thread called "McCain and Palin Supporters In Their Own Words: 25 Laughable Quotes."

Here is the video bro!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

[cutthemdown]

I mean he said it, it's right there LABF, how is that debunked. LOL!!! this will be good.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I mean he said it, it's right there LABF, how is that debunked. LOL!!! this will be good.

Christ, I can't believe I have to break these things down for you.

This quote was discussed here before on another thread.

I didn't deny that he said it - when I said your attempt at a smear had been "debunked" what I meant was that Obama doesn't really think there are 57 states - he was just dead-tired and he simply misspoke.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

At any rate, cutthemdown has earned his daily brownie points from the McCain/Palin campaign for jacking this thread and deflecting attention from the OP.

[cutthemdown]

Christ, I can't believe I have to break these things down for you.

This quote was discussed here before on another thread.

I didn't deny that he said it - when I said your attempt at a smear had been "debunked" what I meant was that Obama doesn't really think there are 57 states - he was just dead-tired and he simply misspoke.

I know he doesn't really think there are 57 states? Just like he knows Canada doesn't have a President. They are still funny though coming from someone who is supposed to be such a great orator.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I know he doesn't really think there are 57 states? Just like he knows Canada doesn't have a President. They are still funny though coming from someone who is supposed to be such a great orator.


The Palin and McCain quotes are funnier (or, depending on your perspective, sadder) because they are more than just slips of the tongue - they are actual displays of stupidity and/or cluelessness.

[Rohirrim]

I read in the paper yesterday that Palin is getting advice from Dan Quayle. That ought to work out for her. :rofl:

[Miss I.]

I read in the paper yesterday that Palin is getting advice from Dan Quayle. That ought to work out for her. :rofl:

Oh certainly. Maybe he could show her how to spell potato or is it potatoe? Though it is interesting how one person who doesn't know what a VP does is asking a VP who didn't know anything for advice.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Too bad this advice from Quayle didn't happen before the VP debate - Biden could have used the line "I knew Dan Quayle, and you're no Dan Quayle." Ha!

[Miss I.]

Too bad this advice from Quayle didn't happen before the VP debate - Biden could have used the line "I knew Dan Quayle, and you're no Dan Quayle." Ha!

Wow, it has gotten bad. It's gone from "I knew Jack Kennedy, and you're no Jack Kennedy." to Dan Quayle. That would show a sharp decline in quality candidates. Palinful, um painful. I mean.

[Rohirrim]

A Plain Rash (Sarah Palin) ;D

[Paladin]

I have often used exaggeration as a release for being tired. But our resident nutjob, Cuttyboy, has shown me the fact that there are people out there who cannot interpret jokes, sarcasm or exaggerations. Humor just doesn't sink in.

Maybe he needs to go spread some more Democracy. Like in Laos....

[Beantown Bronco]

I know he doesn't really think there are 57 states? Just like he knows Canada doesn't have a President. They are still funny though coming from someone who is supposed to be such a great orator.

The best QBs on the planet still throw INTs. The best WRs still occasionally drop/fumble the ball.

It's physically impossible to give quotable speeches for hours upon hours every day for months without making a few mistakes.....no matter how good you are.

[Miss I.]

The best QBs on the planet still throw INTs. The best WRs still occasionally drop/fumble the ball.

It's physically impossible to give quotable speeches for hours upon hours every day for months without making a few mistakes.....no matter how good you are.

True. Though really can anyone beat the Chimpomatic for Bush. That thing kills me.

<img src="http://ryanrusson.com/ws/Chimpomatic/ChimpOmatic_sm.jpg">

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

True. Though really can anyone beat the Chimpomatic for Bush. That thing kills me.

<img src="http://ryanrusson.com/ws/Chimpomatic/ChimpOmatic_sm.jpg">

:laugh:

Dominionist Barbie is on a pace to outstrip McFlightsuit in that department (as impossible as it seems.)

[stugotsII]

And you consider this quote "laughable" because....?

Dude, you kind of suck. You start a thread of humorous "quotes" from Palin and McCain, which is fine...it's actually funny. But then you turn around and defend every stupid think Obama or Biden has said.

It's all in good fun. Your candidates aren't perfect, just in case you didn't know...

[stugotsII]

The best QBs on the planet still throw INTs. The best WRs still occasionally drop/fumble the ball.

It's physically impossible to give quotable speeches for hours upon hours every day for months without making a few mistakes.....no matter how good you are.

Sooo, why is it okay for your man god Obama to make mistakes because he's "dead tired" but it's just plain stupid when McCain or Palin says something stupid?

Could someone please list Bidens gaffes? They are equally funny.

[SJ Bronco]

My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it.'- Barack Obama

This quote is completely out of context, but I laughed my ass off. Poor choice of words...

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Dude, you kind of suck. You start a thread of humorous "quotes" from Palin and McCain, which is fine...it's actually funny. But then you turn around and defend every stupid think Obama or Biden has said.

It's all in good fun. Your candidates aren't perfect, just in case you didn't know...

No - the guy who jacked the thread and tried to make it about Obama sucks (as do you, by extension, for defending him.)

Start your own thread!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

This quote is completely out of context, but I laughed my ass off. Poor choice of words...

I wasn't familiar with this "quote," but the fact that cutthemdown finds irony in it certainly underscores a common fallacy in conservative thought, viz., that "being the best" and "change" are somehow incompatible.

[Miss I.]

I wasn't familiar with this "quote," but the fact that cutthemdown finds irony in it certainly underscores a common fallacy in conservative thought, viz., that "being the best" and "change" are somehow incompatible.

LABF, the quote is a little funny. To say something is so wonderful and then to change it is a little off. It's kind of like saying, "Hey baby you are perfect as you are, but um could you get a boob job." I get what you are saying too. Just because something is so great doesn't mean it couldn't use improvement, but it did sound sort of funny the way it was stated.

I tend to think these other posters are mostly just looking to see that there is even handed funny quoting on both sides without it turning into WWWIII. I think more can be found with Palin and McCain because he's just got a wealth of stuff to mock and her inexperience and random background really makes her an easy target. Obama is more difficult because he tends to be a lot more careful in his word choices. Biden on the other hand might be rife with crazy quotes (seriously the SNL debate, that was funny).

This is just my take, but why make what should be a funny political thread into another mudslinging fight. There are plenty of those threads. I enjoy a lot of the postings in here (and all over the OM). Some are useful and I get a lot out of them and others are just funny. Anyway, my 2 cents for what that's worth these days (probably a negative # at the rate the $ is falling).

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

LABF, the quote is a little funny. To say something is so wonderful and then to change it is a little off. It's kind of like saying, "Hey baby you are perfect as you are, but um could you get a boob job." I get what you are saying too. Just because something is so great doesn't mean it couldn't use improvement, but it did sound sort of funny the way it was stated.

First of all, I'm not even sure the quote is real - he didn't provide a link.

Second, the quote didn't say "improve" - it said "change."

See the difference?

Even "the best" need to change course on occasion when times or events call for it.



This is just my take, but why make what should be a funny political thread into another mudslinging fight.

You should ask cutthemdown - he was the guy who hijacked a thread whose topic was McCain and Palin quotes and tried to turn it into a thread about Obama.

If he wanted a thread about Obama's gaffes then he should have started his own.

[Bronco Bob]

Sooo, why is it okay for your man god Obama to make mistakes because he's "dead tired" but it's just plain stupid when McCain or Palin says something stupid?

Could someone please list Bidens gaffes? They are equally funny.

Maybe because when Obama and Biden say them, they are honest mistakes.
But when McCain and Palin say them, they actually believe what they are
saying.

[Odysseus]

Christ, I can't believe I have to break these things down for you.

This quote was discussed here before on another thread.

I didn't deny that he said it - when I said your attempt at a smear had been "debunked" what I meant was that Obama doesn't really think there are 57 states - he was just dead-tired and he simply misspoke.

Obama has a very dry sense of humor. He was exhausted and at the time this appeared to be hilarious to him. A serious constitutional lawyer forgets how many states he's been to? It was just a seriously tired candidate trying to be funny. McCain has made some serious gaffs but he's done or said some things that were actually hilarious that the media tried to turn into something bad.

McCain recently said some pretty endearing and noble things at a roast of all things and yet that seems to have gone unnoticed.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Maybe because when Obama and Biden say them, they are honest mistakes.
But when McCain and Palin say them, they actually believe what they are
saying.

Ding ding ding! :thumbsup:

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

http://www.bartcop.com/palin-vp-powers.jpg

[Miss I.]

First of all, I'm not even sure the quote is real - he didn't provide a link.

Second, the quote didn't say "improve" - it said "change."

See the difference?

Even "the best" need to change course on occasion when times or events call for it.



You should ask cutthemdown - he was the guy who hijacked a thread whose topic was McCain and Palin quotes and tried to turn it into a thread about Obama.

If he wanted a thread about Obama's gaffes then he should have started his own.

First, try not to get to big an ego when I admit that I was wrong and you were right. Dang. But I have something even better for you. A source for that quote, oh this is funny. It wasn't Obama's quote.
Here's the source from Snopes: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/change.asp

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

First, try not to get to big an ego when I admit that I was wrong and you were right. Dang. But I have something even better for you. A source for that quote, oh this is funny. It wasn't Obama's quote.
Here's the source from Snopes: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/change.asp

Ginita: 1

Cutthemdown: 0

:thumbsup:

[Odysseus]

Small Change

Claim: Barack Obama urged his supporters to join him in changing "the greatest nation in the history of the world."

Status: False.

Example: [Collected via e-mail, March 2008]

Is this true?

"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world.
I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it." — Barack Obama

Origins: The
quote cited above sounds like the kind of verbal slip-up that occasionally escapes from the lips of politicians and other public figures: An idea that seems reasonable in thought (i.e., just because something is the best or greatest doesn't mean it can't be further improved) comes out expressed in wording that, when taken literally, can be interpreted as meaning just the opposite of what the speaker intended to say.

In this case, however, the quote is a fictional double whammy: It not only began as a political in-joke rather than something uttered by Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama, but in its original incarnation its humor was apparently directed at the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, Arizona senator John McCain.

Here's how the quote appeared on the National Review Online blog The Corner, where it was posted by Mark Steyn on 28 January 2008:
Three weeks ago, after New Hampshire, when Hill and McCain and the gang were all bragging about being "agents of change," a (non-U.S.) correspondent of mine e-mailed me his all-purpose stump speech for this primary season:

My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it.

Change (as in "Yes, we can change") certainly has been one of the predominant themes of Senator Obama's 2008 presidential campaign, but not quite through the wording presented here.

Last updated: 15 March 2008

Ginita: Thanks for using that thingy behind your eyes called a...let me look that up...oh yeah. A brain! Nice find. +2

[Needa Pass Rush]

Ok, wait.... Obama isn't talking about change? Or he didn't call America the greatest nation in the world? Unspin me. Ha!

[Needa Pass Rush]

Change it for us, Barry! Trickle up poverty for all!

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[Odysseus]

What part of real accountability don't you understand? Trickle down and trickle up are both born in arrogance. The only reason the Government had to step in is because the safe guards that were removed to benefit a wider range of people were abused by greed.

Social responsibility has to do with executive salaries, golden parachutes, Enron, S&L crisis, and naked greed. It has nothing to do with taking away anything from people who are unable to save money every paycheck much less invest. We are broke as a nation because we as a nation are unable to SAVE money much less invest. Living paycheck to paycheck until you are 65 is a sure fire recipe for disaster.

All those baby boomers who were planning on retiring just had their retirements hijacked. They are going to have to change rules on 401k, retirement age and a host of other regulations. Reparations? Did you look at the date of that video? Are you kidding me? Do you have any idea what happened this past couple of weeks on the market?

If you stop global welfare than you create economies. What part of using butter instead of bullets offends you? Do you think we should always use the military to sort out our differences. If you do then we need to start a national draft right away. The problem with that is we water down the effectiveness of what the military is supposed to be about.

The failure of Reagan is that if it didn't make sense to him he ignored it. That is part of conditioning when you are raised by a alcoholic. We destroyed communism during his term but Bush reunited those people and it's trying to come back. What part of "that crap won't work right now" don't you get?

If you think fear mongering is having a discussion you are wasting time.

[Needa Pass Rush]

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[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

What part of real accountability don't you understand?

You're asking this of an unrepentant Bush supporter and a republican like NPR?

ROFL!

[SJ Bronco]

Why do people keep posting stern quotes. We all know stern is racist cause he got picked on by Black kids in high school. He admits as much in his book. Of course he doesn't like Obama...Sheesh...

[Odysseus]

You're asking this of an unrepentant Bush supporter and a republican like NPR?

ROFL!

You make a good point. I guess I'm in the wrong church preaching to the wrong choir. You need more than sheet music to understand the song. 00

Politics is an ugly business. I guess you are only as smart as your ability to post videos that find.

[SJ Bronco]

You make a good point. I guess I'm in the wrong church preaching to the wrong choir. You need more than sheet music to understand the song. 00

Politics is an ugly business. I guess you are only as smart as your ability to post videos that you find.

Sorry, i don't mean to be the grammar police, that was just bothering me. It's the OCD.

:thumbsup: :thumbs:

[Odysseus]

Sorry, i don't mean to be the grammar police, that was just bothering me. It's the OCD.

:thumbsup: :thumbs:

I am a cabin in the middle of nowhere America typing on what looks to be a Kaypro computer wired with duct tape and clothes pins. Half the keys are missing and I am on my sixth beer. Screw you!:twokisses

[SJ Bronco]

I'm telling you, it was bugging me.... I can't help it..I have problems.

[Odysseus]

I'm telling you, it was bugging me.... I can't help it..I have problems.

I'm telling you beer will solve all your problems with other people's spelling.

FYI - I am out of Iraq for a few months getting trained on a new mission that I will be fielding. I going to get drunk and post as often as I can. I will try to makke as manny speling erors as I can so that you wil nt b disapointed.

Wheeee!

[SJ Bronco]

No, it's not spelling. I misspell things all the time. It's accidental omissions. When I know what someone is saying(or trying to say), but It doesn't read smoothly.

Beer does sound good though. Its only 10:30....I can still have a few...

[Odysseus]

No, it's not spelling. I misspell things all the time. It's accidental omissions. When I know what someone is saying(or trying to say), but It doesn't read smoothly.

Beer does sound good though. Its only 10:30....I can still have a few...

You don't spelling errors? That is rediculous!

[Needa Pass Rush]

I am a cabin in the middle of nowhere America typing on what looks to be a Kaypro computer wired with duct tape and clothes pins. Half the keys are missing and I am on my sixth beer. Screw you!:twokisses

And you're the smart one. No wonder you're looking for handouts. :P

[Odysseus]

And you're the smart one. No wonder you're looking for handouts. :P

Handouts? Are you kidding me? I am the one buying all the drinks. :thanku:

[Bronco Bob]

Why do people keep posting stern quotes. We all know stern is racist cause he got picked on by Black kids in high school. He admits as much in his book. Of course he doesn't like Obama...Sheesh...

Birds of a feather?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

DEALING WITH RIGHT WING CONSERVATIVES / FACTS DON'T INTEREST THEM

http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2008/10/14/tomo/story.jpg

There is no use arguing with Republican right wing conservatives because they cannot emotionally handle the fact that they have been bamboozled for eight years by the Cheney/Bush administration ~ to admit they are wrong would be far too humiliating ~ so they perpetuate the lies and ignore the truth. They are, in essence, John McCain's and Sarah Palin's base of support : Allen L Roland

It is good to keep a sense of humor in these special times particularly when arguing with right wing conservatives. Why ? Because they consciously avoid the truth ~ it's too embarrassing to deal with the lies and deceptions of the Cheney/Bush administration.

Dan Sweeney has written that scientific studies have actually proven that offering reality-based rebuttals to conservative lies only makes conservatives cling to those lies even harder.

Allen L Roland (http://blogs.salon.com/0002255/2008/10/18.html)http://blogs.salon.com/0002255/2008/10/18.html



There's No Arguing With Conservatives ... No, Seriously, Scientific Studies Prove It
Dan Sweeney Tue Sep 16, 8:07 PM ET


A new study out of Yale University confirms what argumentative liberals have long-known: Offering reality-based rebuttals to conservative lies only makes conservatives cling to those lies even harder. In essence, schooling conservatives makes them more stupid.

From the Washington Post article (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/huffpost/cm_huffpost/storytext/126805/29131125/SIG=12pvdf7m9/*http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/14/AR2008091402375_pf.html)on the study, which came out on September 15th.
[/URL][URL]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/14/AR2008091402375 (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/14/AR2008091402375)




" Political scientists Brendan Nyhan and Jason Reifler provided two groups of volunteers with the Bush administration's prewar claims that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. One group was given a refutation -- the comprehensive 2004 Duelfer report that concluded that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction before the United States invaded in 2003. Thirty-four percent of conservatives told only about the Bush administration's claims thought Iraq had hidden or destroyed its weapons before the U.S. invasion, but 64 percent of conservatives who heard both claim and refutation thought that Iraq really did have the weapons. The refutation, in other words, made the misinformation worse.

A similar "backfire effect" also influenced conservatives told about Bush administration assertions that tax cuts increase federal revenue. One group was offered a refutation by prominent economists that included current and former Bush administration officials. About 35 percent of conservatives told about the Bush claim believed it; 67 percent of those provided with both assertion and refutation believed that tax cuts increase revenue.

In a paper approaching publication, Nyhan, a PhD student at Duke University, and Reifler, at Georgia State University, suggest that Republicans might be especially prone to the backfire effect because conservatives may have more rigid views than liberals: Upon hearing a refutation, conservatives might "argue back" against the refutation in their minds, thereby strengthening their belief in the misinformation. Nyhan and Reifler did not see the same "backfire effect" when liberals were given misinformation and a refutation about the Bush administration's stance on stem cell research.
If you've ever gotten in an argument with your conservative friends (assuming you haven't offered each other a mutual Carville-Matalin-<wbr>style political ceasefire to preserve the friendship), you've probably seen this "backfire effect" in action. The more you try to tell people that Sarah Palin is lying when she says she was against the Bridge to Nowhere, the more they believe she was telling the truth. The more you try to explain how similar McCain's policies are to Bush's, the more they maintain he's "the original maverick."

The typical mantra of the left is that we don't need to sink to the Republicans' level because we have the truth on our side. But if the other side is utterly immune to the truth -- and indeed, the truth only makes them dig deeper into their fantasy world in which the economy is fundamentally strong and the War in Iraq is a staggering success -- what's a leftie to do?

I ain't got the answers, ace, except to say this: When arguing with conservatives in front of on-the-fence independents, remember that you're not trying to convince the conservative to actually buy into silly notions like facts and reason. You're highlighting the differences between left and right for the outside observer. If the other guy insists on political views that belong only in Disney World's Fantasyland, other folks will realize what's happening.
But if there is no third party, do yourself a favor and save your breath. As the study demonstrates, you're only making matters worse. Consider that aforementioned ceasefire. It is football season, after all. There's plenty of other things to argue about. Go Mizzou! "

Allen L Roland (http://blogs.salon.com/0002255/2008/10/18.html)http://blogs.salon.com/0002255/2008/10/18.html

[W*GS]

We all know that making an argument in bigger letters and using bold fonts makes it work, for example, saying

"Socialists are responsible for the deaths of 100 million in the last century" is wrong, but saying

<font color="red" size="+3">Socialists</font><font size="+2"> are <b>responsible</b> for the </font><font color="red" size="+3">deaths</font><font size="+2"> of </font><font color="red" size="+3"><b>100 million</b></font><font size="+2"> in the last century!</font>

is correct.

[W*GS]

DEALING WITH TROOFERS/FACTS DON'T INTEREST THEM

Fixed it for ya.

[Bronco Bob]

We all know that making an argument in bigger letters and using bold fonts makes it work, for example, saying

"Socialists are responsible for the deaths of 100 million in the last century" is wrong, but saying

<font color="red" size="+3">Socialists</font><font size="+2"> are <b>responsible</b> for the </font><font color="red" size="+3">deaths</font><font size="+2"> of </font><font color="red" size="+3"><b>100 million</b></font><font size="+2"> in the last century!</font>

is correct.

How many people died in the last century that capitalists are responsible for?

[W*GS]

How many people died in the last century that capitalists are responsible for?

Obviously you missed the point.

[baja]

OR YOU did

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Ha ha ha! :laugh:

You know W*GS is out of ammo when his only response to an argument is a criticism of font colors and/or sizes.

[W*GS]

Snort.

Somehow LABF thinks making his text all italics, or larger, or in different colors supports his arguments.

It's rather like shouting. Loud doesn't equal correct.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I didn't make the text that way - the author did.

Take your complaints up with him.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Just another typical W*GS deflection: focus on font colors and ignore the message.

[gunns]

Ok, wait.... Obama isn't talking about change? Or he didn't call America the greatest nation in the world? Unspin me. Ha!

A lot of us wish we could.

[gunns]

Change it for us, Barry! Trickle up poverty for all!

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Well the trickle down **** sure doesn't work. The Republican party keep trying to stereotype the Democrats as far as spend, spend, spend. Yet take a look at the sitting REPUBLICAN President who had the advantage of a REPUBLICAN controlled congress and we haven't seen spending like the past 8 years EVER.

We keep hearing how Obama will mess up royally by increasing taxes and eliminating loopholes for the upper crust as they are the ones that create jobs. We are nearing the end of a REPUBLICAN President who cut taxes largely for the upper crust and we've seen the largest job losses and least job creations ever. People aren't buying it and instead of buying the lies and spin the REPUBLICANS put out maybe you should pay attention to what is happening to the whole country, not just your little fantasy REPUBLICAN world.

[Odysseus]

What makes the Republicans so funny is they have key opportunities to attack the Democrats but that would require them to be have ideas, make promises and be accountable. If McCain's policy isn't exactly like Bush's why is there literally zero proof?

[W*GS]

Conservatives are hardly the only folks immune to fact and reason.

We got gaffney and his biatch, LABF, right here on the ol' OM, as examples.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

If we had a nickel for every time W*GS has used that deflection then we'd all be eligible for a Bush tax cut.

[W*GS]

If I had a nickel for every time LABF called a post of mine that schooled him a "deflection", Obama would take it.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Creating a deflection re: font colors is "schooling" me?

Ha ha ha! :laugh:

It doesn't take much to win imaginary victories in W*GS' whacky alternate universe.

[Odysseus]

Is this the Foneco thread?

[W*GS]

Obviously LABF ignores any post, for example:

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=2131560&postcount=67

that reduces his argument to debris.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Speaking of imaginary declarations of victory... :laugh:

[W*GS]

Do I need to pull up some links containing the juicier bits of immune-to-facts lunacy that you've put up regarding 9/11?

Despite having the facts put directly in your face, you clung to your troofer crap like your life depended on it.

Unless you're suddenly a conservative, your posts on 9/11 alone are striking examples of a disproof of the assertion in the article, i.e., that conservatives cling to falsehoods no matter how strong the evidence against their beliefs.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

W*GS with another one of his bunk comparisons.

There's a difference between being totally uninterested in facts and drawing conclusions that are inconvenient for W*GS and his fellow Phillip Zelikow acolytes from specific facts.

[W*GS]

W*GS with another one of his bunk comparisons.

You can't be intellectually honest, can you?

There's a difference between being totally uninterested in facts and drawing conclusions that are inconvenient for W*GS and his fellow Phillip Zelikow acolytes from specific facts.

Very little of what comes out of the troofers is fact - indeed, you've got it bass-ackwards. You and the other troofers have conclusions in mind, then find apparent "facts" that "support" them, discarding every other genuine fact that troofers and you find inconvenient.

Dismissing the 9/11 Commission's work in toto because of Zelikow is an example. Cheap ad hominem, and nothing more. Not only is the mention of Zelikow a cheap shot, it's irrelevant - because most of the your troofer nonsense is about issues the 9/11 Commission didn't address.

As per usual, LABF, you swing and miss.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Once again, W*GS is aiming for new Special Olympics records in the deflection and straw man categories.

I guess he needs to compensate for the blow to his fragile ego that is the repudiation of his religion of unregulated markets somehow. :D

[W*GS]

You can't be intellectually honest, can you?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Oh, the irony! :laugh:

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2715/georgesays8wm8.jpg

[W*GS]

If I had a nickel for every time LABF called a post of mine that schooled him a "deflection", Obama would take it.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Deflection (in the service of Bush and the GOP) accounts for the lion's share of W*GS history on this forum.

[W*GS]

Deflection (in the service of Bush and the GOP) accounts for the lion's share of W*GS history on this forum.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=2131650&postcount=80