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LonghornBronco
10-15-2008, 03:44 PM
I think we need a young "Red Ass" like Muschamp. Dude is a winner! Turned the soft UT defence around the moment he arrived on campus.

NO MORE SHAN-O-HANDS!


http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=3632117

BOULDER, Colo. -- Texas had the game won, having beaten the hide off the Colorado Buffaloes. But on the way out of Folsom Field and on to the big game against Oklahoma in Dallas, the Longhorns' second-string defense surrendered a late touchdown that made the final score 38-14.

Will Muschamp has brought fire and passion to the Texas sideline.
It was a meaningless touchdown. Unless you're Will Muschamp.

Headset pulled down around his neck and brown eyes smoldering, the Texas defensive coordinator was 5 yards onto the field and fuming.

"Jog off the field!" Muschamp bellowed at his defenders. "Jog your ass off the field, goddammit!"

Once the Horns jogged off the field, Muschamp lit them up even more.

"At that point, you would think as a coach he'd be very lenient," said first-team defensive end Brian Orakpo, who watched the scene unfold. "But he was still coaching. He was getting on them for not tackling."

Muschamp's simple explanation of his urgency: "Every opportunity on the field is an opportunity to stop people."

Every opportunity to coach defense is an opportunity for Will Muschamp to hug, holler, congratulate, castigate, slap hands, slap helmets, teach alignment and preach hustle. He is perpetual passion. Defensive coordinators tend to be among the most intense members of the football coaching profession, and Muschamp is at the far end of the intensity curve.

If you screw up, you're going to hear about it. Loudly.

If you make a big play, you're going to hear about it. Loudly.

"He is not allowing anyone to take a lazy step at any time," head coach Mack Brown said.

One thing is certain: The Longhorns never have to wonder where they stand with their first-year coordinator. They know he cares. He's constantly bathing them in animated feedback.

"We love him to death," Orakpo said. "He gets on us but he praises us, too. When we make a great play, he's out there chest-bumping us.

"Muschamp is the guy who carries the torch."

Through five games, Texas has been torching the offenses it has faced. Stealing Muschamp away from Auburn this past offseason ranks among the best personnel moves Brown has made in his accomplished career.

The Texas defense dwindled in effectiveness as last season went along. In the final five games, the Longhorns surrendered 25, 35, 43, 38 and 34 points. Unable to stop teams, the traditionally stout Horns were reduced to outscoring them.

That's why Brown reached out to snag Muschamp. The former Georgia player and coach at Auburn and LSU left his SEC roots for a new challenge in the Big 12.

He's been up to the challenge so far.

As quick as he is to yell at a mistake, Muschamp is right there with praise.
Last year, the Longhorns were fourth in the league in sacks. This year, they lead the nation (3.8 per game) and have thrown opposing offenses for more lost yards (222) than anyone else. They've lived in the offensive backfield.

The Horns are third nationally in rushing defense (51.8 yards per game) and fourth in scoring defense (11.4 points per game). Texas has allowed 14 or fewer points in each of its first five games for the first time in 17 years, and has been particularly tough in the red zone. Opponents have scored on only eight of 15 possessions inside the Texas 20, the second-best defensive percentage in the nation.

None of which dazzles Muschamp.

"Stats are for losers," he said. "I like winning games."

He's won plenty over the years. Muschamp was Nick Saban's defensive coordinator when LSU won the national title in 2003 and followed Saban to the NFL with the Miami Dolphins. After one year there, he returned to the college game, where his pyrotechnic personality is a better fit.

"I like what I do," Muschamp said. "It's my job to get these guys to play well and play physical. I play through them. When they make plays, I make plays. When they make a mistake, I make a mistake."

Muschamp's job has been made much easier by the return to full health of Orakpo, who is having an All-America season so far. The 260-pound end has been a terror off the edge, racking up 5½ sacks, 8 tackles for loss and 6 quarterback hurries this season. He hobbled through the first half of last season after injuring a knee in the season opener.

"It's made all the difference in the world," Brown said. "We saw this in preseason last year. When he got chop-blocked against Arkansas State, it just killed us. Boy, is he bringing it now. In fact, they're having to hold him to slow him down."

For Orakpo and the rest of the Texas defense, there was an adjustment period in the spring and in August camp. Not just to their fourth coordinator in four years, but to the new coordinator's expulsive persona.

"They thought I was nuts," Muschamp said.

Orakpo took one look at the manic Muschamp and thought, "It's a new day and era."

Change is good. But now comes the hard part.

Healthy once again, Brian Orakpo has been a beast on Texas' defensive line.
Beginning Saturday with Oklahoma's explosive offense, Texas will face four straight teams averaging at least 48 points per game -- Missouri, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech follow the Red River Rivalry. All four rank in the top five nationally in scoring.

If the Horns hold up through that gauntlet, they'll have more than just an impressive record. They'll have a hot head-coaching candidate in Muschamp.

You can already find Tennessee fans clamoring for regime change: www.muschampforut.wordpress.com. There assuredly will be other enamored fan bases, although perhaps not more Web sites devoted to his hiring.

But that's a long way off in football time, and Muschamp knows it.

"It's a week-to-week profession," he said. "You can be a real good coach one week and an idiot the next."

Hugs one week, heat the next. That mirrors the way Will Muschamp mingles with his defense on a play-by-play basis.

"He's just like one of us, but he's got the headset on," said linebacker Roddrick Muckelroy. "If you give him a helmet, I believe he'd run out there."

"Stats are for losers. I like winning games."
--Will Muschamp

Bob's your Information Minister
10-15-2008, 03:53 PM
Where are the props? Can I get some props? The season wasn't even started and I was talking about the new coordinator you'd all be pining for in 2009.

broncosteven
10-15-2008, 04:09 PM
Where are the props? Can I get some props? The season wasn't even started and I was talking about the new coordinator you'd all be pining for in 2009.

Meanwhile back at the train wreck, KFC is pining for a new GM, HC, QB... should I go on?

lex
10-15-2008, 05:26 PM
It would be perfect symmetry if we got Ed Donatell

Packers

Donatell replaced by Slowik. Slowik replaced by Bates.

Broncos
Bates replaced by Slowik. Slowik replaced by Donatell.

broncosteven
10-15-2008, 05:30 PM
It would be perfect symmetry if we got Ed Donatell

Packers

Donatell replaced by Slowik. Slowik replaced by Bates.

Broncos
Bates replaced by Slowik. Slowik replaced by Donatell.

I am never getting excited about a DC that has pumped up his guys in the past a la Bates.

Give me a guy that can consistently do the job.

SoDak Bronco
10-15-2008, 05:32 PM
Who gives a rats @$$ who the DC is. If you don't have the players, it won't matter if we have freaking Don Ho and it wouldnt make a difference.

SureShot
10-15-2008, 05:33 PM
Bring in the Son of Bum after he eventually fired that is. Broncos go back to the 3-4 and all is well.

lex
10-15-2008, 05:44 PM
Who gives a rats @$$ who the DC is. If you don't have the players, it won't matter if we have freaking Don Ho and it wouldnt make a difference.

We have better personnel than what the results are reflecting.

LonghornBronco
10-15-2008, 05:44 PM
Bring in the Son of Bum after he eventually fired that is. Broncos go back to the 3-4 and all is well.

This would also be nice.

broncosteven
10-15-2008, 06:35 PM
Who gives a rats @$$ who the DC is. If you don't have the players, it won't matter if we have freaking Don Ho and it wouldnt make a difference.

At least Don Ho could entertain us and distract us from the field while the D is giving up a 90 yard td drive.

loborugger
10-15-2008, 07:18 PM
If you screw up, you're going to hear about it. Loudly.

If you make a big play, you're going to hear about it. Loudly.

That rah-rah stuff often doesnt play as well in the Pros. It might work & then again, it might not.

Crushisback
10-15-2008, 07:39 PM
Where are the props? Can I get some props? The season wasn't even started and I was talking about the new coordinator you'd all be pining for in 2009.

You also thoufgt Brodie would be a good QB.Hilarious!

Bob's your Information Minister
10-15-2008, 08:25 PM
You also thoufgt Brodie would be a good QB.Hilarious!

Show me where I said that.

broncosteven
10-15-2008, 08:28 PM
Show me where I said that.

Then why did you start the Breakie vs Cutler thread?

SoDak Bronco
10-15-2008, 08:31 PM
Bring in Don HO

Bob's your Information Minister
10-15-2008, 08:41 PM
Then why did you start the Breakie vs Cutler thread?

Why not?

listopencil
10-15-2008, 08:44 PM
Pretty soon it's going to be a matter of finding someone who actually wants to be our next DC. I can imagine the interview process...

"For our first test I'd like you to take this enormour ball of elephant dung and turn it into an international space station."

"Uh...I don't think that's possible"

"I'm sorry, we can't use you here in Denver. Next?"

SportinOne
10-15-2008, 08:54 PM
We have better personnel than what the results are reflecting.

I think that the personnel and the results match up perfectly. We have a great corner that no one throws at. Instead they throw at our other corner(s)/safeties and since we have a crap d line they have plenty of time to do so. Further more, some of our linebackers and pretty much all of our safeties don't know how to wrap up. Does that sound about right to you?

And since when does giving up 41 points qualify you as a great defensive coordinator? Seriously, lay off the texas kool aid.

lex
10-15-2008, 09:11 PM
I think that the personnel and the results match up perfectly. We have a great corner that no one throws at. Instead they throw at our other corner(s)/safeties and since we have a crap d line they have plenty of time to do so. Further more, some of our linebackers and pretty much all of our safeties don't know how to wrap up. Does that sound about right to you?

And since when does giving up 41 points qualify you as a great defensive coordinator? Seriously, lay off the texas kool aid.

No. We have a DE who has averaged 10.5 sacks over his 1st two seasons. This year he has 1. DT has been solid but not great with Thomas, Peterson and Robertson. Engelberger sucks. But thats 3 out of 4 Dlinemen who are solid and/or are emerging. So Slowik has something to work with on the DL.

DJ Williams has been playing well. Webster hasnt been great. He has had his good and bad moments but mediocre overall, which is to say not horrible.

If you ask many Bly and Bailey are one of the best CB tandems in the league. I dont like Bly but its because he is a gloryhound who takes foolish chances. After seeing what Slowik has turned him into, I almost wish we would have the old Bly. Slowiks scheming has been so toothless. But in any case, there is something to work with at every level of the defense. We dont have a team of all pros but no defense does.

listopencil
10-15-2008, 09:20 PM
No. We have a DE who has averaged 10.5 sacks over his 1st two seasons. This year he has 1. DT has been solid but not great with Thomas, Peterson and Robertson. Engelberger sucks. But thats 3 out of 4 Dlinemen who are solid and/or are emerging. So Slowik has something to work with on the DL.

DJ Williams has been playing well. Webster hasnt been great. He has had his good and bad moments but mediocre overall, which is to say not horrible.

If you ask many Bly and Bailey are one of the best CB tandems in the league. I dont like Bly but its because he is a gloryhound who takes foolish chances. After seeing what Slowik has turned him into, I almost wish we would have the old Bly. Slowiks scheming has been so toothless. But in any case, there is something to work with at every level of the defense. We dont have a team of all pros but no defense does.



We need more talent at DT, MLB and Safety. That's why we suck.

lex
10-15-2008, 09:23 PM
We need more talent at DT, MLB and Safety. That's why we suck.

No. Our scheming is so bad that its impossible to say what we need more and to what degree. Its entirely foreseeable that if we were to get a competent DC, we'd realize that some of these guys werent as bad as we thought. The scheming makes everyone look bad.

listopencil
10-15-2008, 09:28 PM
No. Our scheming is so bad that its impossible to say what we need more and to what degree. Its entirely foreseeable that if we were to get a competent DC, we'd realize that some of these guys werent as bad as we thought. The scheming makes everyone look bad.

No, I think it's obvious that we haven't gotten impact play from the DT position in quite some time. I was spoiled by Wilson in his prime but a better set of tackles would make our MLB a whole lot better. Safety is a mess. You can't scheme chicken salad out of chicken ****.

lex
10-15-2008, 09:31 PM
No, I think it's obvious that we haven't gotten impact play from the DT position in quite some time. I was spoiled by Wilson in his prime but a better set of tackles would make our MLB a whole lot better. Safety is a mess. You can't scheme chicken salad out of chicken ****.

OK, look at what Green Bays defense was ranked the year before Slowik was their DC and look at what it was the year he was the DC...and then they had to bring in Bates to fix the defense. Look at what their defense was ranked subsequent to Slowiks tenure as Packers DC. Ill give you a hint. It supports the notion that a bad DC can make good personnel look really bad.

colonelbeef
10-15-2008, 09:35 PM
I still think slowik might work out. Takes time to gel a D together. I won't begin to really look at whether he should stay or go until at least the 10th game.

lex
10-15-2008, 09:39 PM
I still think slowik might work out. Takes time to gel a D together. I won't begin to really look at whether he should stay or go until at least the 10th game.

Are you kidding? Thats nuts. Bates brought in an entirely different system and was given 5 or so games before deferring to Slowik because what he allegedly believed in was more in line with the talent we have and have done in the past. But our defense is no better than what Bates had it after 5 games.

listopencil
10-15-2008, 09:49 PM
OK, look at what Green Bays defense was ranked the year before Slowik was their DC and look at what it was the year he was the DC...and then they had to bring in Bates to fix the defense. Look at what their defense was ranked subsequent to Slowiks tenure as Packers DC. Ill give you a hint. It supports the notion that a bad DC can make good personnel look really bad.

And yet this FO got rid of Bates in favor of Slowik. What does that tell you? Was Slowik better? Or does anyone in the FO competently evaluate DC ability? I can't tell you. What I do know is that I haven't seen a commitment to making this D better from the inside out.

ZONA
10-15-2008, 10:57 PM
And yet this FO got rid of Bates in favor of Slowik. What does that tell you? Was Slowik better? Or does anyone in the FO competently evaluate DC ability? I can't tell you. What I do know is that I haven't seen a commitment to making this D better from the inside out.


Wrong. Shanny knows you need a good defense and has spent several picks on D over the years. I think D starts with a bad ass at DE. A guys who can stop the run on his side, and wreak havoc pass rushing. It's the corner stone of any great Defense. We simply don't have that guy and haven't had that guy since Trevor Pryce was in his prime. That was the last time we had even a decent D around here. We need a dynamic DE. Then a good safety and then a MLB.

lex
10-16-2008, 04:49 AM
And yet this FO got rid of Bates in favor of Slowik. What does that tell you? Was Slowik better? Or does anyone in the FO competently evaluate DC ability? I can't tell you. What I do know is that I haven't seen a commitment to making this D better from the inside out.


It tells you what I said before...that Shanahan didnt have the patience to stick with Bates and it was perceived that Slowiks philosophy was more in line with the talent we have and the approach we had in the past. I dont think it means they thought Slowik was better at all. Slowik was already on the staff when they brought Bates in. But once Bates was here and Amon Gordon was the starting tackle they realized that they didnt have the patience to wait out the losing.

FireFly
10-16-2008, 02:07 PM
Pretty soon it's going to be a matter of finding someone who actually wants to be our next DC. I can imagine the interview process...

"For our first test I'd like you to take this enormour ball of elephant dung and turn it into an international space station."

"Uh...I don't think that's possible"

"I'm sorry, we can't use you here in Denver. Next?"

Hilarious!

rep

houghtam
10-17-2008, 12:43 AM
Anyone thought about Marvin Lewis after he gets fired this season?

He WAS a great DC, after all...