Revealed: The Right's Minister of Information

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Revealed: The Right's Minister of Information

http://www.newsforreal.com/

I get a lot of email from right-wingers trying to "straighten" me out on the facts. You know the facts .. like that Obama "is a terrorist," and that he's "a Muslim" and that he's not even an American citizen.

The other day one of these characters challenged me.

Right-winger: Steve, you know Obama wasn't even born in the United States."

Me: Yes he was. He was born in Hawaii.

Right-winger: Then why can't anyone find his birth certificate?

Me: Nonsense. If that were true reporters would have been all over it like stink.

Right-winger: I'll bet you a dollar you can't find a birth certificate for Obama in Hawaii.

(So I went on line and in less than 2 minutes found the damn thing, copied it and emailed it back to him. with a note:

Me: You owe me a buck." (Click to see image (http://www.newsforreal.com/birth.jpg))

Right-winger: And you believe that's real? It's fake.

Further proof you can lead a jackass to the well of truth but you can't force him to drink.

So many of the knocks on Obama from the right are so outrageous, so transparently false that I've wondered -- are the people who embrace the claims as gospel mentally ill, or is there anything really behind these charges?

Well, I will give the believers the benefit of doubt and just classify them as "misinformed." But the Right's Misinformer-in-Chief is crazy -- and that's not me saying so: "(Martin) is a law school graduate, but his admission to the Illinois bar was blocked in the 1970s after a psychiatric finding of 'moderately severe character defect manifested by well-documented ideation with a paranoid flavor and a grandiose character.'" (The official document itself HERE (http://www.newsforreal.com/denied.html))
That little nugget comes from a NY Times profile of Martin published today. (Of course, since this story appears in Satan's very own liberal media outlet, many right-wingers will simply dismiss this story out of hand.) (Full story here (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/13/us/politics/13martin.html?bl&ex=1224043200&en=1694b9dd225b8c71&ei=5087%0A)) The Man Behind the Whispers About Obama

By JIM RUTENBERG

The most persistent falsehood about Senator Barack Obama's background first hit in 2004 just two weeks after the Democratic convention speech that helped set him on the path to his presidential candidacy: "Obama is a Muslim who has concealed his religion."

Until this month, the man who is widely credited with starting the cyberwhisper campaign that still dogs Mr. Obama was a secondary character in news reports, with deep explorations of his background largely confined to liberal blogs.

But an appearance in a documentary-style program on the Fox News Channel watched by three million people last week thrust the man, Andy Martin, and his past into the foreground. The program allowed Mr. Martin to assert falsely and without challenge that Mr. Obama had once trained to overthrow the government.
Among the story's other revelations:

- An examination of legal documents and election filings, along with interviews with his acquaintances, revealed Mr. Martin's web site (FreeRepublic.com (http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/obamatruthfile/index?tab=articles)) is the source of a constant flow of scintillating, while often untrue, claims.

- In 1993 he was featured on the CBS News program "48 Hours" which devoted an hourlong program to Martin's prolific filing of frivolous lawsuits. He has filed so many lawsuits that a judge barred him from doing so in any federal court without preliminary approval.

- He prepared to run for Congress in Connecticut, where paperwork for one of his campaign committees listed as one purpose of his run as, "to exterminate Jew power."

- When running for president in 1999, he aired a television advertisement in New Hampshire that accused George W. Bush of using cocaine.

- In the 1990s, Mr. Martin was jailed in a case in Florida involving a "physical altercation."

- Over the years he has left a trail of acrimony political opponents, lawyers and judges with his anti-Jewish Semitic comments. Court papers support claims that Martin has often and openly impugned Jews. A motion he filed in a 1983 bankruptcy case called the judge "a crooked, slimy Jew who has a history of lying and thieving common to members of his race." In another motion, filed in 1983, Mr. Martin wrote, "I am able to understand how the Holocaust took place, and with every passing day feel less and less sorry that it did." "When asked Friday about an assertion in his court papers that "Jews, historically and in daily living, act through clans and in wolf pack syndrome," he said, "That one sort of rings a bell."

He said he was not anti-Semitic. "I was trying to show that everybody in the bankruptcy court was Jewish and I was not Jewish," he said, "and I was being victimized by religious bias."
So, mystery solved. Those crazy allegations about Obama's heritage, religion and citizenship are crazy. They are cooked up by a guy who, in the kindest terms, suffers from a "severe personality disorder." His outrageous and often untrue charges are then and believed by those out there that demographers and pollers now discretely refer to as "low information voters." "What he's generating gets picked up in other places," said Danielle Allen, a professor at the Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton University who has investigated the e-mail campaign's circulation and origins, "and it's an example of how the Internet has given power to sources we would have never taken seriously at another point in time."
So if you're related to any of these low information voters -- and aren't we all -- send them the link to this story so at least they can nolonger claim the liberial media is hiding the true facts about Obama from voters. The "liberal media" likes a good scoop as much as FOX News and the Washington Times. So, if Obama were actaully guilty of any one of the charges that flow from Andy Martin's "moderately severe character defect"- ive imagination, it would be the biggest scoop of the campaign. And I don't know even the most liberal journalist who wouldn't want that scoop for him or herself.

Hell, I'd even come out of retirement for a crack at that one.

[W*GS]

The dude sounds like gaffney - and a bit like gaffney's acolyte, LABF.

[Spider]

;D I just got a police escort off the Pilots travel plaza property in Tallapoosa Ga. over politics ..... But it wasnt over the birth certificate .... it was over the Muslim thing ........ 2 nd truck stop in a week that I have been escorted from ...there is something about this election that brings out the worst in people ......what got me kicked out is I said , you dont believe he is a Muslim , you just dont want an uppity N word in office you racist bastard ... dropping the N bomb got me escorted out

[Paladin]

The dude sounds like gaffney - and a bit like gaffney's acolyte, LABF.

Jeez. Have you always been a jackass, or do you work at it? You are pathetic. I hope you have been neutered, Your brand of smug and arrogant intolerance and prejudice and social ignorance is truly astounding. Go to h3ll, W*GS.


Maybe you are already there. You poor, poor bustard.....

[W*GS]

Who the hell are you, Paladin?

[Spider]

Who the hell are you, Paladin?

My guess would be is , he is someone that thinks you are an Idiot

[BroncoBuff]

The saddest part of that birth certificate nonsense is that McCain was born in Panama, which is unquestionably a foreign country.

In fact, he was NOT a citizen until one year AFTER he was born. Federal statutory laws conferred retroactive citizenship, and that's fine for plain citizens. But there remains an open question whether that retroactive status is sufficient for Article 2 purposes, vis-a-vis the Ex-post-facto clause of the Constitution.

Personally, I'm not bothered one bit, but this is definitely not a 100% settled part of Constitutional law ... it's just never been challenged.

US presidential candidates born outside the US

"The constitutional wording has left doubts about whether those born on foreign soil are on an equal footing with those whose birth occurred inside the country's borders, and whether they have the same rights."<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-ref1_1-0>[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_born_citizen#cite_note-ref1-1)</SUP> Though every president and vice president to date (as of 2008) has either been a citizen at the adoption of the Constitution, or else born in a U.S. state or Washington D.C.,<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-2>[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_born_citizen#cite_note-2)</SUP> a number of presidential candidates have been born elsewhere.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-3>[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_born_citizen#cite_note-3)</SUP>
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Barry Goldwater (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Goldwater), who ran as the Republican party nominee in 1964 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1964), was born in Arizona (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona) while it was still a U.S. territory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._territory). Although Arizona was not a state, it was a fully organized and incorporated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organized_incorporated_territories_of_the_United_S tates) territory of the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territories_of_the_United_States).<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-junkie_4-0>[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_born_citizen#cite_note-junkie-4)</SUP>
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George Romney (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Romney), who ran for the Republican party nomination in 1968 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1968), was born in Mexico (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico) to U.S. parents. Romney’s grandfather emigrated to Mexico (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico) in 1886 with his three wives and children after Utah outlawed polygamy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy). Romney's parents retained their U.S. citizenship and returned to the United States in 1912. Romney was 32 years old when he arrived in Michigan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan).

John McCain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain), who ran for the Republican party nomination in 2000 and is the Republican nominee in 2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2008), was born at the Coco Solo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coco_Solo) U.S. military base in the Panama Canal Zone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Canal_Zone) to U.S. parents. Although the Panama Canal Zone was not considered to be part of the United States,<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-5>[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_born_citizen#cite_note-5)</SUP> federal law states: "Any person born in the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States."<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-6>[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_born_citizen#cite_note-6)</SUP> The law that conferred this status took effect on August 4, 1937, one year after John McCain was born — albeit with retroactive<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-7>[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_born_citizen#cite_note-7)</SUP> effect, resulting in McCain being declared a U.S. citizen.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-8>[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_born_citizen#cite_note-8)</SUP>



In fact, this is an EXCELENT distinction to make between Republicans and Democrats. Obama was CLEARLY born in a U.S. state. But McCain was born in a foreign country. So which side is using smears toward the other? I'll give you two guesses, and the first one doesn't count! ;D

[Needa Pass Rush]

Obama's Alinsky Jujitsu

By Kyle-Anne Shiver (http://www.americanthinker.com/kyleanne_shiver/)

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If I were the least bit prone to gratuitous sympathy, I would be tempted now to feel quite sorry for Hillary Rodham Clinton. Poor, poor woman. She was quite nearly brought to all-out tears yesterday in New Hampshire, as she soliloquized over the sad state of her drooping campaign and how completely personal this is for her.


Barack Obama seems to have effortlessly achieved voter adoration, fresher, younger, more at ease within his own skin than she will ever be. He would appear to be as much a natural as her own Bill. It may appear to a great many observers that Barrack Obama is just one incredibly audacious, even lucky, albeit frighteningly charismatic dude.


These personal qualities are not the sole reason he is where he is, and I suspect the wily Mrs. Clinton knows this full well. I suspect it must bother her that Obama also appears to have mastered the playbook used by her own political teacher (http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/10/hillary_soros_alinsky_and_rush.html), the legendary amoral guru of left wing activism, Saul Alinksy.


Hillary has met not only her match in Alinsky tactics, she has met the master of bloodless socialist revolution, in my opinion.


Obama's Alinsky Lessons


Barack Obama had just graduated from Columbia and was looking for a job. Some white leftists were looking for someone who could recruit in a black neighborhood in the south side of Chicago.


Obama answered a help-wanted ad for a position as a community organizer for the Developing Communities Project (DCP) of the Calumet Community Religious Conference (CCRC) in Chicago. Obama was 24 years old, unmarried, very accustomed to a vagabond existence, and according to his memoir, searching for a genuine African-American community.


Both the CCRC and the DCP were built on the Alinsky model of community agitation, wherein paid organizers learned how to "rub raw the sores of discontent," in Alinsky's words.


One of Obama's early mentors in the Alinsky method was Mike Kruglik, who had this to say to an Ryan Lizza (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/bobamasunlikelypoliticaledu.html) of The New Republic, about Obama:


"He was a natural, the undisputed master of agitation, who could engage a room full of recruiting targets in a rapid-fire Socratic dialogue, nudging them to admit that they were not living up to their own standards. As with the panhandler, he could be aggressive and confrontational. With probing, sometimes personal questions, he would pinpoint the source of pain in their lives, tearing down their egos just enough before dangling a carrot of hope that they could make things better."
The agitator's job, according to Alinsky, is first to bring folks to the "realization" that they are indeed miserable, that their misery is the fault of unresponsive governments or greedy corporations, then help them to bond together to demand what they deserve, and to make such an almighty stink that the dastardly governments and corporations will see imminent "self-interest" in granting whatever it is that will cause the harassment to cease.


In these methods, euphemistically labeled "community organizing," Obama had a four-year education, which he often says was the best education he ever got anywhere.


Is it any wonder, then, that Obama's Alinsky Jujitsu is making mincemeat of the woman who merely interviewed Alinsky, wrote about him, and spent the next 30 years in corporate law and in the lap of taxpayer-funded luxury in government mansions?


Obama Not Starry-Eyed Like His Followers


Alinsky considered himself a realist above all, the ultimate pragmatist. As a confirmed atheist, Alinsky believed that the here and now is all there is, and therefore had no qualms about assorted versions of morality in the pursuit of worldly power. He didn't coddle his radical acolytes or encourage their bourgeois distinctions between good and evil when it came to transferring power from the Haves to the Have Nots. Alinsky saw the already formed church communities as being the perfect springboards for agitation and creating bonds for demanding goods and services.


When Obama first undertook his agitating work in Chicago's South Side poor neighborhoods, he was un-churched. Yet his office was in a Church and most of the folks he needed to agitate and organize were Church people -- pastors and congregants -- who took their churches and their church-going very seriously. So, this became a problem for the young agnostic, who had been exposed to very little religion in his life. Again and again, he was asked by pastors and church ladies, "Where do you go to Church, young man?" It was a question he dodged for a while, but finally he relented and joined a church.


Not just any church, but a huge black nationalist church with a pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who unabashedly preaches a "black" gospel. Rolling Stone Magazine (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/13390609/campaign_08_the_radical_roots_of_barack_obama/print) ran with a story on Obama and his church, entitled, "Destiny's Child," which included this excerpt from one of Rev. Wright's sermons:


"Fact number one: We've got more black men in prison than there are in college," he intones.

"Fact number two: Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run!"

"We are deeply involved in the importing of drugs, the exporting of guns and the training of professional KILLERS. . . . We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God. . . . We conducted radiation experiments on our own people. . . . We care nothing about human life if the ends justify the means!"

The crowd whoops and amens as Wright builds to his climax: "And. And. And! GAWD! Has GOT! To be SICK! OF THIS S**T!"
This doesn't sound like any church in which I've ever worshipped, but perhaps I have led a sheltered life. Reverend Wright, whom Obama called his spiritual mentor (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/04/obama_throwing_his_spiritual_m.html) and still claims is his sounding board (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/13390609/campaign_08_the_radical_roots_of_barack_obama/print), has taken trips abroad with none other than Louis Farrakhan. The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXS_YrYp07Q) received the "Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright,Jr. Lifetime Achievement Trumpeteer" Award at the 2007 Trumpet Gala at the the United Church of Christ. Wright was even reported (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/bobamasunlikelypoliticaledu.html) to be a former Muslim. One might be led to wonder if this "church" isn't all it makes itself out to be.



Among some of the black nationalist signs hanging in this church are a list of admonishments to black solidarity, called the "Black Value System," and a sort of moral code calling for the "Disavowal of the Pursuit of Middleclassness." I don't recall the Ten Commandments or anything at all in the Gospel about race, so this seems a bit strange.


But Obama isn't starry-eyed when it comes to protecting himself from the possibility of bad press regarding his church affiliation. When he was preparing to announce his campaign for the Presidency in February, he called his minister, Reverend Wright, the night before and disinvited him to stand on the podium in front of all the cameras. Rather than face questions, he simply eliminated the target, a perfect Alinsky action meant to forestall an enemy reaction.


Hillary should have known what she was up against when she read up on how Obama won his state senate seat in Illinois.


Obama had returned to Chicago and practiced civil rights law for 3 years, when he spied an opportunity to run for the state senate. A longtime, widely-revered matron of the civil rights movement named Alice Palmer had held the seat for a number of years, but she announced that she wanted to run for Congress. So, Obama seized the opportunity and proclaimed his intention to run for Alice's open seat.


Well, Alice lost the congressional race and decided that she wanted to hang onto that hard-won state senate seat. Most of the community leaders tried to persuade Obama to withdraw and wait his turn; he was a newcomer after all.


Instead Obama performed his first real act of political jujitsu. He sent his aides to the courthouse to carefully examine all of Alice Palmer's signatures to see if enough could be disallowed to knock her off the ballot altogether. And indeed, some of Alice's signatures were fake. The aides also found enough other fake signatures on opponents' ballot initiatives to knock them off the ballot as well.


By the time Barack Obama walked handily into his state senate seat, everyone there knew him as "the man who knocked off Alice Palmer." Quite a feat indeed for the newcomer, the young whippersnapper with the odd name.


Perhaps Hillary will win some states and stay in the game a while longer, but I fear this knight with his adoring, fawning followers is just too slick for her and ole Bill, and he seems to know how to play Alinsky ends-and-means hardball without actually breaking the law.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Needa Pass Rush an Andy Martin copycat?

Who woulda thunk? :laugh:

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

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[Needa Pass Rush]

Needa Pass Rush an Andy Martin copycat?

Who woulda thunk? :laugh:


Right on cue. Ha!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Right on cue. Ha!

Is that what you're going to say when the make-believe maverick and the candy striper lose? :giggle:

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